WEBVTT - Termites: They Bore But They Aren't Boring

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry So it's

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know, how d Hey, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a fan recommendation. Really. Yes. Aaron Mullins from the Max

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<v Speaker 1>Funcan Cruise that I went on last year. Uh works

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<v Speaker 1>with termites. I believe, like a termite circus. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>runs a termite circus. No, but he said, he said, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. You should do termites. He said they're

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<v Speaker 1>really fascinating. They are pretty fascinating. And I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to it, buddy, and uh, here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So Aaron Mullins, this one's for you. Way to go. Mullins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good suggestion. I mean it's termites. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you how many people went, I'm not listening

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<v Speaker 1>to that one. Well, they just lost out. And all

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<v Speaker 1>of you, dear listeners, the ones who are hearing our

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<v Speaker 1>voices talk about termites, you are very blessed. Yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fact of the podcast thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>like to do. I had a hard time picking out

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<v Speaker 1>like five or six don't give them away. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>take him in striy it. Huh, it's a chuck. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you familiar with this one. He's not gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>good intro. I got a good intro. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, this is a Tracy Wilson joint. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good intro. She points out that termites are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of paradoxes, or the concept of termites is a paradox,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they are extremely um vulnerable to changes in temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>changes in humidity. They can dry out and die. They

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<v Speaker 1>die like dehydration pretty easy. Yeah, they're not super hardy yet.

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<v Speaker 1>They they but they can be. They can. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they can also like fell an entire house given enough time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They they develop wings, some of them do. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>not really good at flying a lot like cicadas. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, like we saw those things firsthand, just flying

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<v Speaker 1>terribly um. And then soldier termites for example, Yeah, very strong,

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<v Speaker 1>huge mandibles and pincers. Yeah. Yeah, they can't even feed themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like big babies. There's just a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>going on termites. You think you understand them, Oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>what about this part? Bam, that's kind of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you look into them. That's why they're fascinating. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why Aaron Mullins. Mullins recommended it. Yeah, I agree. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we get into it? You know what said is there's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be an awkward pause in the podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>people couldn't see me looking at you, like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's name? That's right, we can we can tighten that

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<v Speaker 1>up with the magic of editing. Jerry, will you tighten

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<v Speaker 1>that up? No, says Jerry. Alright, so yes, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into this, Chuck. Let's talk termites, all right? I guess. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually when we do these, um we've done cocka, roaches

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<v Speaker 1>and fleas and uh or do we do flease? We

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<v Speaker 1>did ticks? Yeah, we've done ticks for done bees. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have we not done fleaze? We need to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure? Yeah? Remember tis was like the most

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<v Speaker 1>boring episode we've ever done. No, but people went crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for it. It's because of the T shirt offer. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>if you've made it all the way through that, when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a free T shirt instead of anyway, we

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<v Speaker 1>usually start with anatomy, and that's a good place for termites.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they are insects. And you're gonna find them. You

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<v Speaker 1>can really find them anywhere where it doesn't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>go into a hard freeze in the winter. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are most common in tropical environments, were most abundant. I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>well they make their range all the way into temperate

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<v Speaker 1>climates though too. Yeah. I mean we've got here of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and U we freeze in the winter. Yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the ground doesn't freeze all the way through. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and not for prolonged periods either. Um, they look like

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<v Speaker 1>ants a lot of times, but they're not even that

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<v Speaker 1>closely related to ants. Well, no, they're more closely related

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<v Speaker 1>to coca roaches. I think that's where they came from. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been around for about fifty million years rs.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are nearly three thousand species of termites. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a little background. We should also see termites

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<v Speaker 1>are extraordinarily social insects. That's how they survive. Like one

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<v Speaker 1>termite is, like we said, an extremely vulnerable organism, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you put hundreds of thousands or millions upon millions

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<v Speaker 1>of these things together in a single colony, they get

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<v Speaker 1>the job done. Yeah, they are social, and there's they're

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<v Speaker 1>very structured. Um, some similarities to bees, and that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a definite social ladder uh in there there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called a cast actually for termites. And they all have

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<v Speaker 1>little jobs that they do, and they all have their

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<v Speaker 1>distinct physical features one from another, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>neat um. So I guess we can start with the

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<v Speaker 1>reproducers or reproductives, the egg layers. Right in in any colony,

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<v Speaker 1>you have one king and one queen, and they're um

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<v Speaker 1>easily distinguishable from the rest because they're the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>who are really dark in color. The reason they're the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones that are dark in colors because they're the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones that are fully mature in the entire colony,

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones. It's crazy. That's one of the facts

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<v Speaker 1>of the show for me. Bam. Yeah, but the king

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<v Speaker 1>and queen aren't the only ones who can lay eggs

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers and workers, which will talk about in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both sterile, They got nothing going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>sexy stuff, nothing, But the king and queen have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of backup support with laying eggs, their secondary and tertiary reproducers. Tertiary,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is like one of the great overlooked

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful words. I love that word me too. Yeah, here's

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<v Speaker 1>to me another fact of the podcast. The King and

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<v Speaker 1>the queen have eyes and the rest of them are blind. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them are blind though, because I've read

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else that that wasn't quite right. Yeah I did too,

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<v Speaker 1>man that basically, if you um develop wings, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it an ally um you when you develop those wings,

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<v Speaker 1>you all so developed eyes, You're like, holy cow, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see now because I got these wings. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna fly, you're gonna see, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess at the at the point where there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>king and queen, there's no allies. The king and queen

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the only ones with eyes. And it's also possible

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<v Speaker 1>that Tracy was talking about specific species, like there's three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand species possible some species only the king and queen

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<v Speaker 1>have eyes and came in time. The rest the blind ones.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, navigate with smell scent and with moisture trails

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<v Speaker 1>and moisture and saliva is big in the termite world.

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<v Speaker 1>As we will find throughout the podcast, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of regurgitating and spitting out to accomplish their needs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of it is kind of magical. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only do they use it to keep their eggs moist,

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<v Speaker 1>they salivate on their eggs. They also use it for

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<v Speaker 1>things like building, um, shoring up the interior of their

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<v Speaker 1>little you know, caves and tunnels. Yeah, filling their entire mounds.

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<v Speaker 1>They used their spit for that too. It's magic stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the reproductives. Oh and you also, um you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned um that they navigate the ones that can't see

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<v Speaker 1>navigate through scent using pheromones and um, the king and

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<v Speaker 1>queen produce a certain type of pheromone. Uh that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of controls how the colonies population is at any given time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really amazing. Like if they need and beats were

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like this too. If they need more soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>than they uh deposit the pheromone that makes more soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>They need more workers than they're gonna use the pheromone,

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<v Speaker 1>pheromone that makes more workers. Right. The awesome difference though,

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<v Speaker 1>was with bees, they went through and either laid an

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<v Speaker 1>egg that had been fertilized with sperm to make a male,

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<v Speaker 1>or else they laid an egg that wasn't fertilized to

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<v Speaker 1>make a female, And that's how they made different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of bees with termites. A termite I actually regress in development,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the starting point to become a nymph

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<v Speaker 1>again or a larva, I think, and then start over

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<v Speaker 1>and then moll and go from maybe being a worker

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<v Speaker 1>to a soldier or something. It's pretty cool. It's depending.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all carried out by pheromones. So let's talk about soldiers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are obviously named so because they are the defenders

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<v Speaker 1>of the nest and um, their invaders. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>say defenders, they're not gonna be like fight off a

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<v Speaker 1>bat or an art park. They're gonna lose that. But

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<v Speaker 1>they can defend against other termites and ants and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And um, what's his name, Aaron Mullins. Mullins

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<v Speaker 1>was right to say that termites are fascinating because there's

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff that wasn't in this article about soldiers. So

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<v Speaker 1>we said that termites are extremely social. There's so social

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<v Speaker 1>that they actually display suicidal behavior that benefits the colony.

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<v Speaker 1>So some workers and some species developed this blue sack

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<v Speaker 1>filled with this blue toxic fluid. And as they age,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of lose their purpose socially speaking. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>harvest as much stuff like everybody kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The big difference is that when we age, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>come across a an attacker and kill ourselves by um

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<v Speaker 1>blowing the sack up and spraying the attacker with toxic

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<v Speaker 1>So when they don't have their purpose anymore, they could

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<v Speaker 1>like fall on the sword for the sick of the colony.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another kind that's the soldier that's really good

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<v Speaker 1>at pooping, and they shoot their poop onto enemies, really,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty that's pretty amazing. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>hard pressed to find too many other bugs that can

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<v Speaker 1>accurately aim and shoot their poop and board off other enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are termines, all right, that's pretty fantastic. Um. With

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<v Speaker 1>the fact of the podcast, it ranks um. So aside

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<v Speaker 1>from pooping on other ones, they have the largest mandibles,

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<v Speaker 1>which are the little pincers to battle the ants and

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<v Speaker 1>other termites. And their heads might be a little darker

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<v Speaker 1>than their bodies, but they're not gonna be dark like

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<v Speaker 1>the King and queen. Yeah, just the heads. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the spittle and the regurgitation. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be uh toxic and sticky like a like a trap

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<v Speaker 1>for another termite. Or just flat out kill them with

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<v Speaker 1>the toxicity. It's like you're coming into my joint. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna either poop on you or vomit on you this

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<v Speaker 1>toxic acid, or explode my blue stack on you. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's right. So then you have the workers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and sadly, the workers are exactly what you think. They are. Blind,

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<v Speaker 1>they're They're probably the ones you see most often if

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<v Speaker 1>you get like a rotten log or something, the little milky,

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<v Speaker 1>creamy looking dudes that just work and that's all they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They eat wood and they poop it back out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have mandibles, but they're not as big as

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<v Speaker 1>the soldiers. Um. And they dig tunnels, they gather food.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't they babysit the king and queen, and soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>can't even feed themselves. The workers have to feed the

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<v Speaker 1>other termites above them. And what's cool is termites can't

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<v Speaker 1>even eat their own food. They need help from microorganisms

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So cellulose, which is the glucose polymer, very

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<v Speaker 1>tight glucoset polymer that provides structure to all plants. You

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<v Speaker 1>like that, thank you, Yeah, that's you can thank cellular.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a big lump if it wasn't for cellulos.

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<v Speaker 1>Grass is another one. It's got cellulose um and the

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<v Speaker 1>termites can't eat They can eat the cellulus, but they

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<v Speaker 1>can't break it down, just like we can't. We can

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<v Speaker 1>eat um sucros because we our bodies produced sucras, which

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<v Speaker 1>breaks sucrose down into g ucats, which we use for energy. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with the termites. Their bodies don't produce cellulates,

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<v Speaker 1>which breaks down cellulose like we don't either. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can sit there and eat wood all day long and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna come out the other end exactly that

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<v Speaker 1>that same way I've done it give you splinters on

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<v Speaker 1>the way, right, Yeah, it's not nice. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with the termites. But the big difference between

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<v Speaker 1>us and the termites. The termites have this hind gut

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<v Speaker 1>that contains microorganisms that break down the cellulose into glucose

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<v Speaker 1>can use it's right, And that's uh the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>in here I thought was a decent band name, Hindgut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. It's not bad. Uh. So the organisms

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<v Speaker 1>are bacteria and protozoans, and they can't live without one another,

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<v Speaker 1>like the protozoans and bacteria can't live without the termite either. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another cooe. And it's not just these micro by

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<v Speaker 1>micro bacteria that um that they have a symbiotic relationship with.

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<v Speaker 1>Some termites have symbiotic relationship with the fun guess that

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<v Speaker 1>will well, we'll see. Yeah. I mean like they're pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're harmonious folks. That's a good way to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that about them. Uh. Mostly they're categorized by

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<v Speaker 1>where they live. There can be subterranean. If they nest underground, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they are primitive. If they are kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>ones you find in the rotten log, those are primitive. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The um three quarters of all termite species are higher Yeah, termites,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's not just their physical evolution, but also

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<v Speaker 1>their behavioral evolution. The higher ones are the mound builders,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas primitive termites are the ones that make a nest

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<v Speaker 1>where they're eating, like in them hollowed out log. The

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<v Speaker 1>big problem with that, and this is why they're not

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<v Speaker 1>as highly evolved, is that when the log runs out,

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<v Speaker 1>the colonies like, oh we're dead. Yeah. I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't like move on to another loger. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why they're primitive in this sense, primitive equals dumb, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing we didn't mention about the King and Queen

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was kind of neat too, is that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they are monogamous, and um, the queen can store sperm

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<v Speaker 1>in her body enough to keep reproducing without sex, but

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<v Speaker 1>she still throws the old man a bone even though

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't need to. She's like, I have enough sperm,

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<v Speaker 1>but come on, you know, let's let's go do it right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's probably what she said. And the King

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<v Speaker 1>is just, you know, imagine very appreciative at that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's cute about them. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the king. They're they're very social. Um, so let's see

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about reproduction, right, yeah, I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>might as well go at it. It was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good segway, chuck, thank you. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got an egg. Let's just look at one individual termite.

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<v Speaker 1>The termite is born an egg, and out of the

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<v Speaker 1>egg emerges a larva, and from the larval stage a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of malts go on, and you enter the nymph stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe it's the nymph stage that's the real

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is where it's like the stem cells stage,

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<v Speaker 1>it can like any termite, there's no determination whatsoever. Any

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<v Speaker 1>termite can become any member of the cast. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>once you're born, that can be a worker or a soldier, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or or even a reproductive so um. In the nymph stage,

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<v Speaker 1>they go through a few more malts. Say, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to become a worker, they'll maybe once if they

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<v Speaker 1>mold another time. After that they can become a soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite sure exactly what process it takes place

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<v Speaker 1>for them to become a reproductive because obviously some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual um emergence has to take place. Maybe and um,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the three casts, and then from the reproductives,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on you know, what takes place, they can become

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<v Speaker 1>secondary or tertiary or the king and the queen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said earlier, which is I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the facts of the show for sure is that

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<v Speaker 1>they can go backward. And they don't like reverse aging

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, but it is a reverse molt, where a

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<v Speaker 1>regressive malt where they can go from soldier back to worker,

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<v Speaker 1>right they go they would go soldier back to nymph,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and then to work. Yeah, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go two steps back to go one step to home

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<v Speaker 1>base pretty much. Okay, But so there's like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>every colony has one king and one queen um, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's not enough, like the colony may get too big.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when that happens, some of the reproductives, the

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<v Speaker 1>secondary of tertiary reproductives, will start to grow wings and

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<v Speaker 1>possibly eyes as well, and that's probably pretty freaky. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's their life that certain way. And all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they're like, whoa, yeah, these things coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of my bes like The fly right, you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening to you? The movie The Fly right? Okay, um,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah I knew what's you're saying, just intuitively I did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did, one, implies to didn't we? Yes, we did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that one's pretty interesting insect week, right, So as the

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<v Speaker 1>as your friend is starting to grow wings and eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not right, You're like, well, I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay here. We can't see it though, at least right

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can hear it though? Are you growing wings?

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<v Speaker 1>Growing wings? Can hear it? Sounds like wings? No, don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it. But the other difference with your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he or she is suddenly attracted to light,

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<v Speaker 1>which is unusual with termites. Light equals dried out, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're normally like away from the light, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>big on the light. Now they are attracted the light,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that they all start to kind of hang

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<v Speaker 1>out around the entrance of the colony, like what's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then maybe one warm day, humid day, possibly after

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<v Speaker 1>a rain a day that they're not going to dry out,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe after sundown, they all stumble out of the colony,

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<v Speaker 1>do some terrible flying and try to go find other mates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's called a swarm. And that is called a

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<v Speaker 1>nuptial flight. And uh, for obvious reasons that we will

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<v Speaker 1>see here in a second. And um, that's their only flight.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like they just fly around like that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason they have those wings is to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get from the nest to another termite. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the vast majority of them are going to eaten

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<v Speaker 1>bat food or frog food or whatever. Lots of things

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<v Speaker 1>eat termites. Some do survive. Yeah, And the other interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing is one colony will swarm at the same time

0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:37.600
<v Speaker 1>another colony way far away, um will swarm and scientists

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is a way that they keep the

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<v Speaker 1>gene pool deep. Yeah, that makes total sense. So like

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<v Speaker 1>you just mate with someone from another colony, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's like a tea party, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a social like a box feed dating. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream social social. So speed dating, you find a

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<v Speaker 1>little mate. A male go out, he sees a female

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<v Speaker 1>a late that he likes. Yeah, I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>said a late is Latin for wing and um, they land,

0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>they break their wings off. So now they're called delights

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and they say, hey, you're kind of cute. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to go, like see if we can make a go

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<v Speaker 1>of this, And she says sure, let's go found a

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<v Speaker 1>colony exactly. So they look for a shelter. They dig

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<v Speaker 1>into a hole, um, and then they seal it with

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<v Speaker 1>like to set the mood. They don't want like light

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<v Speaker 1>coming in there. They see it with poop and saliva. Yeah,

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they're poop is also they're pooping. Their saliva are really handy,

0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>super handy. He's just like, let me take care of this,

0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's windy, let me go poop and seal up

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>our door right with mix it with my spit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they's building some wood and soil and uh. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they have a little love nest and they mate and

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<v Speaker 1>the new queen lays her eggs. What's cute is like

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<v Speaker 1>this this uh, and now they're the new king and

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<v Speaker 1>the new queen. This colony that they just founded, the

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<v Speaker 1>first generation. They're going down kind of but not really.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the opposite of Jamestown. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of birth. Yes, Um, so the the the the

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<v Speaker 1>king and the queen will take care of this first

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<v Speaker 1>generation until they have enough workers to take over the duties.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they get lazy and then they just yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>go back and the queen. The queen doesn't exactly get lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's laying thousands of eggs every day. Yeah, the most

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<v Speaker 1>prolific um. That's like the high end for sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>it can happen well. And it takes about two to

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<v Speaker 1>four years for a colony to become fully mature. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And depending on whether it's a primitive or a higher

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>termite species, there can be tens of thousands or millions

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<v Speaker 1>of individuals in this mature colony. And then eventually, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes clear that they need to swarm again and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole process just takes over again. Yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the King and Queen will find out later they live

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<v Speaker 1>um in the deepest, safest part of their nests, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it may be. Um. And here, I think to me

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<v Speaker 1>is finally the de fact of the podcast what queens

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<v Speaker 1>can live to be twenty years old? If you thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was the fact of the podcast, twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>old for an insect I saw elsewhere six to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>really wow? Yeah, man, that is crazy. So that's for

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<v Speaker 1>the queen only. Um, but even the workers can live

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<v Speaker 1>two to five years, which is pretty impressive. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>the insects world, Yeah, for sure. And that's of course

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<v Speaker 1>barring accident and you know, well bats and frogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be the same thing with us once we overcome aging.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll still be able to die from an accident as Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I keep saying people eat them. I didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>into it that much, but it's they're definitely on the

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<v Speaker 1>menu in a lot of countries. Um. I think is

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States and Europe and Canada are the

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<v Speaker 1>only countries that don't eat insects in the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're need to survive, I know if you've watched Survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>man uh, a termite nest is like a really great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to happen upon. I'd be like trapped in the woods,

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of protein. Yeah, and if you're an art

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<v Speaker 1>Parker an ant eater, same deal exactly. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your colony and they need a place to live. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't just wander around. They're not Bedouins, right. They've built

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a nest, but they haven't really built there home yet,

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 1>their shelter. They've got the house, but they haven't made

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 1>it a home kind of, but they haven't expanded it

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<v Speaker 1>into a city. They've established a house, it's down the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. Now they need to build the infrastructure

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and a society basically exactly. And once they raised that

0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.400
<v Speaker 1>first generation of workers, then it starts to take over

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and the colony grows exponentially from there. Yeah. Um, their

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<v Speaker 1>nests are going to be called They all build nests

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what species. They're called termitaries or termitaria. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though they all build nests, they can be quite

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<v Speaker 1>different depending on what the species is and where you

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<v Speaker 1>find them. Like we said, the primitives are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be living in the wood that they're consuming until what's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they die and they are categorized according to

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<v Speaker 1>the wood that they like to eat, which is kind

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>of cool. Yeah, like damp, dry, or rotten. Yeah, they

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>probably love that stuff, the rotten stuff. Uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you talked earlier about the fun guy that they share

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>their home with in bacteria, which is pretty cool. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very much symbiosis as well. Well, actually it's not. It's

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>one guy can't live without the termites. There is a Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a specific type of termite, macro terminite

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>neatne macro term You sounding like an islander. Yeah, I

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>got it, though, I got it. So um. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>grow mushrooms like they garden. That was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>facts of the podcast too, isn't that neat? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>grow these specific types of mushrooms that eventually grow out

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<v Speaker 1>of the termite mound. The termites grow these, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason the termites grow them is because this fungus u

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<v Speaker 1>helps to break down the cellulosic material that the mound

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>is built against. So they're they're growing these mushrooms to

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>help them break this stuff down so they can in

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>turn eat it more efficiently. Yeah, they're actually gardening. It's

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>really amazing. Yeah, what's his name, Aaron Mullins. He was right,

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>they are fascinating. So we'll get to the mounds in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but we'll cover subterranean now. They are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones underground obviously, and it's uh, it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>when you've looked at like the little ant farms that

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<v Speaker 1>you buy all the little series of tubes and caves

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and tunnels. Um, that's what they're building down there. Some

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>they have galleries for storage and for classroom education and

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>raising the young, and then they have they obviously lived

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>down there as well, and then they connect it all together.

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they connect it to their food source. Like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>build a next near a tree route that connects right

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<v Speaker 1>to it and they can just tap right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I guess does that kill the tree eventually? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it just disintegrates the tree. It's not there any longer. Yeah,

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>but it's already dead tree. They eat rotting wood or

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>dead wood. I don't think they eat live wood. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is just like an old root, I guess. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And the the they they'll build their um their nests

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<v Speaker 1>such that if it's cold out, yeah, they'll it'll be

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>deep enough that they can all migrate down to a

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>warmer spot in the earth. There's like different areas within

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the colony that they'll take root, right, and if it's

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's hot out or something, they'll, um, they'll maybe

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>go to like part of the colony that's under the

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>shade of a tree or something like that. I mean

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty complex. Yeah, And if they are building their

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>nest underground and they come upon a big slab of

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>rock or something, they build little what's called shelter tubes

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>about the size of a pencil in diameter, and they

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they're basically just a little alternate highway. It's like detours.

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, it's like, um, it's an extension of the

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.679
<v Speaker 1>nest that protects the termites from exposure to sunlight or

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the air or anything like that. Yeah, But a lot

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of times just to get around something too right, but

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>rather than having to like crawl up over the rock

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and be exposed, they build this this basically like a tunnel.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Then it's like, um, it's like the opposite of a tunnel.

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's exposed, it's above ground. So like let's say

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>you have a subterranean colony chuck, And here's the ground,

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and an inch above the ground is your house. But

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>between the ground and your house is cement, the slab

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that your house is built on. They may build a

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>um what's it called a shelter tube from the ground,

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>from their nest to your house, and it's just like

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>an extension of their their colony, of their subterranean nest.

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>So those are the subs. They're also mounds. I encourage

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>you to google giant might mound and see some of

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>these things that are like tall. Some of them are

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 1>uncannily like houses. They look like human houses. Yeah, really neat, like, uh,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you'll find these in Africa. You're not gonna find these

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia or anything like that, not this tall. But um,

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>they are domed, towered structures, and they are made up

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of soil and excrement and poop and saliva and all

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the moisture that glue like and moisture they can secrete,

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And uh. Some of them are little nests

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>like on the side of stumps or trees, but some

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>of them are just free standing out in the middle

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Yeah, and like freestanding and structurally sound like, Yeah,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>they'll survive longer than the termites. Weil. Yeah, they can

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>survive brush fires. Seen pictures of brush fires that just

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>went past the termite mound. Um floods flood l kill

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the termite colony, but the mound itself will remain intact.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And they also have a built in heating and cooling

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>system eventally system where they build chimneys into the mounds

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and there's ventilation chefts coming in the other way and

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it forces heat out and cool air in. And there's

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>actually a UM mixed use development in uh Harrara, Zimbabwe

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>called East Skate Center and it has no central h

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>v A C. It uses termite inspired chimney ducks for

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>heating and cooling of this place. It's pretty cool. So

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>they just got their idea from like how they do

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>their work. Yeah, it's like biomimicry. Oh yeah, we talked

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 1>about that before. Yeah, I don't think we ever did

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>an episode on it. Now added to the list, my friend. Um.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So another way that termites. You know, they're gonna get

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>eaten a lot, but that is another way that they

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>benefit um the ecosystem. If you're part of the food

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>chain and other animals are gonna eat you and poop

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you out. Then you're doing your job right sadly, But

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>termites also eat other animals pop. Yeah, they eat herban

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>wars poop because there's frequently cellulosic material left over, and

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the termites eat that. If they're cellulose, they're gonna eat it.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>They don't care if it's poop. Yeah, And they play

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a really vital role to the um to their ecosystems.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>In some places, termites are the only things breaking down

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>cellulosic material like a fallen tree, um or animal poop

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that would build up otherwise if the termites didn't eat it. Um.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>So they they have a really bad they get a

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>bad rap among humans. But apparently the species are beneficial. Yeah,

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that's true. And I guess this is the point where

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>we should get into the sad part, which is if

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to prevent termites from coming to where you

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>live or get rid of them if they are there.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But um, right after this message break. If you have

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>a woodhouse, the termite doesn't know that it's not just

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a fallen log, it's dead wood as far as they're

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in turn, and it it's on the menu, especially if

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that would is making direct contact with the ground. Yeah,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's always a good thing not to have a good

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>starting point for a termite though. Um So around the

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>world where termites are really really bad, you might even

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>see a house with one stilts with like metal posts

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>so the termites can't get up in there. Um it's

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>not nearly like that around here, but it sounds like

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Africa and Australia have like some serious serious problems with termites.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>In Australia, yeah, and I mean those are the places

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>where you will see like a stilt with metal around

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it because the termites, Which makes sense because if there's

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>enough termites, there's not a lot you can do, so

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you just take preventative measures and live with it. Yeah,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like before you build your house. Um, these days they

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>will treat the ground before they even break ground. But

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that stuff is pretty toxic and it only lasts about

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>five years. Um, if you're not into that, you can

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>say no, thank you for the toxic treatment. I would

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>just like to do this every few years. It's still

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>probably pretty toxic though. Like the way they like, I

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>have this stuff. Um, I have these little uh they're

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>not traps, they're built into the ground all around my

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>house and the termite guy. The only reason to know

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he's been there is because he leaves a little note

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>on my door instead of checked your traps. But they're

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>not traps. It's probably just leaching nasty stuff into my soils.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>What it's doing probably yeah, which is no good, but

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>it works. Yeah, you don't have termites, that's true. Uh.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>And like we said, you don't want your wood coming

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>into direct contact with the soil. That's gonna be a

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>basically an open invite for termites to come in there. Uh,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't want, but I mean, termite prevention can be

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>as simple as that. Yeah. If you put like a

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>moisture barrier in your basement, yeah, just keep it dry.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna keep your basement dry and that will kill

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>termites just in and of itself. And then if you

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>don't have any dirt up against any wood part of

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>your house. Every once in a while you just walk

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>around your house and make sure there's no shelter tubes

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>crawling up to your the wood on your house, you

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>should be fine. Yeah, And before you buy your house,

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a termite inspection. That's like one of

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the big things that you should do if you live

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in an area proneo termites, that is. But let's say

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>let's say you do suspect that there's been a termite infestation.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the signs? Uh, Well, seeing termites

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in your house, that's the one that means you're screwed

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>because they're already through the wood. Especially if you see

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a swarm. Oh, you're super screwed because that means there's

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>so many already in your house that they have to

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>go form another colony elsewhere in your house. Yeah, that's

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>when it's time to call a termite professional. That's right.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Um they might look like ants, So if you think

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you have an ant problem, you want to like look

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 1>extra close in um flying ants. Yeah, at their waste.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Um Ants have a narrower waste than termites do. Um

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Ants front wings are a lot long or than the

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>back wings, whereas termites wings are the same length. So

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that's another good way to um tell. And they fold

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>over one another to make like a straight line. That's

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a big giveaway. Uh. And then the antenna and an

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>ant's antenna's bent and the termites is straight and looks

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like a little round pearls. Yeah, so uh yeah, look closely, Yeah,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>catch one, hold it gently, look closely and you really

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you could do that. Um, you might. There

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>might also be other signs, less obvious signs, UM, Like

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you might find little tiny wings, like flying ant wings

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>around your windows in your lights. That's a sign that

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>termites have been there and have already sworn because they

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>went from allites to d allites. Um, do you have decayed?

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Would if you tap your wood with a hammer, does

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the hammer go right through it? If so, that's a

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty good sign you have termine. Don't like that infomercial? Yeah, uh,

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty much do in every episode. No, you don't. But

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it can also get confused with like water damage and things. Um.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>The way you can tell the difference is termite damage

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>follows the grain of the wood and it's also lined

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>um with wood and soil, and that's obviously not the

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>case with water damage. Um. And then, like you said,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just look for the shelter tubes. That's a pretty giveaway.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>To pick up a cinder block and do you see

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>tubes and termites. Yeah. What's great though, is if you

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 1>see this, you don't need to panic. Like it takes many, many,

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>many years for termites to really do significant damage to

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>your house. Yeah, but it's on the flip side though.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>They it's often invisible until it's too late, you know,

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta get if you if you see a

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of swarms in your house, then yeah, you need

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>to handle that immediately. You should handle it immediately no

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>matter what. But if you spotted a shelter tube for

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the first time, and you just also looked last week,

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not necessarily in any danger in The point is is,

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>since it takes a while, you want to take a

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>while in finding the right exterminator because they're gonna you're

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna make friends with this person because they have some

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>serious work to do. Yeah, and you need an exterminator.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>This isn't the kind of problem you can get rid

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of on your own. It's not for civilians to tackle.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>And we're not shills for exterminators either, We're really saying this.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>So you don't want to tackle it on your own. Uh,

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>you want to hire your exterminator. The first thing they're

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna do is obviously verify that is infect termites and

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>not water damage or something. They're gonna hit the wood

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>in your house with the hammer. Yeah, pretty much. They

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>have all kinds of things that like heat sensors and

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>little tiny infrared cameras they'll stick into your walls, and

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>um stethoscopes, like I can hear them, do they They

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>have sound sensors. It's just like a high texts stethoscope.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>One of the things they can do is bates use baits,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>which is basically unfortunately wood soaked and pesticide. It's poisoned

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>food and they say, hey, come in here and eat this,

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and they eat it and then they take it back

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to their colony and kill everybody. It's exactly like snow white. Yeah,

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it's awful though, Like I've grown, I had grown to

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>love termites by the end of this, and then I

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>started reading about how they kill him. I'm like, that's awful.

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Can't you just relocate them? I feel it very much

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the same way. Yeah, you can't know, No, you can't.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>You can't relocate him. You have to kill them, or

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you could move just get leave them the house kind

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>of why not. Repellents is another thing they can use,

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>my friend, uh, and that's just like any kind of

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>insect repellent that keeps them from like if you see

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a swarm near your house, you're gonna use a repellent.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>That means they're not at the house yet and you

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>can keep them away. Is that what you're guys doing

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>with a little trap thing or whatever. Uh, he's probably

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>using your repellent. Yeah, it's some sort of Yeah, I

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's killing like an ultrasonic way that just

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>shatters their head, you know what it is. It's so weird,

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>these little round you just when you walk by, it

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>looks like a little round disk, green disk. And then

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him pull it up though, and it goes like,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, six inches into the ground. I think that's

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>probably repellent. I think it's got to be. And the

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>cool thing about repellents too, is, um, the ones that

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>are already inside are trapped inside, and they're cut off

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>from the rest of the Uh, they're safe colony, which

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>means that they probably die of dehydration pretty soon. So

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that's cool and very sad. All right. Well, I'm just

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>saying like, yeah, they called me. The final thing that

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 1>they can do is just kill them with a termatic side,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and that means pumping sometimes hundreds of gallons of poison

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<v Speaker 1>into their nests and killing them into your house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the thing that's why you just move and

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<v Speaker 1>leave him the house. You tell the bank like, sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not paying on this anymore. Go hit the termites

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<v Speaker 1>up for your monthly payment. If you're brave, you got

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<v Speaker 1>anything else? No, yeah, it did kind of Who are

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on by our fingernails there? I wish we had

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<v Speaker 1>one more, like, great, fact, let's just make one up

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the end they turn into carrot top. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good. Good going back to the show, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got one. Oh, we didn't cover the foremotion, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about Okay, I didn't even highlight that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the termite poop is called frass f R A S

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<v Speaker 1>S and frass is rich in magnesium, so when they

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<v Speaker 1>poop they enrich the soil. They're just pretty much perfect

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<v Speaker 1>in every way except for when they're eating your house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to end it. I know your

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<v Speaker 1>carrot top one was the best way to end it. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if you want to learn more about termites, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you go type that word into the search bar at

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works dot com and says I said search part.

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<v Speaker 1>Its time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this bird killer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In our show on myth Busting Common Misconceptions, we I

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<v Speaker 1>told the story about killing a bird, and Josh told

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<v Speaker 1>the story about Youmi microwaving and bird, but you say

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<v Speaker 1>not killing right. It eventually died. She didn't kill it

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<v Speaker 1>in a microwave. It just died later from microwave internal complications.

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<v Speaker 1>Just died of being overtreated. Okay, So we got a

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<v Speaker 1>letter from Matt about that. Um Hi, guys, you broke

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<v Speaker 1>my heart this morning. I was listening to your myth

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<v Speaker 1>busting podcast on the drive in. I don't like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this one. I don't like it. Should I

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<v Speaker 1>not read it? Yeah, you can't go. It's so you

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<v Speaker 1>can excuse yourself if you want to leave. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>sit through it. You started talking about the mama bird

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<v Speaker 1>baby bird myth, and it brought tears to my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, when I was in the fourth grade, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend John and I were playing in the woods and

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful South Hills of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. We encountered a

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<v Speaker 1>baby bird, and I, being an animal lover, picked it

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<v Speaker 1>up because it was so cute. As soon as I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that I had just doomed it to a

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<v Speaker 1>slow death of lonely starvation because his mother would never

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<v Speaker 1>care for it again. For some reason, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>was and am an animal person, neither John nor I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of raising it ourselves. Instead, we thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>spare it a horrible slow death by snatching it with

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<v Speaker 1>the cinder block, which we did just so you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't killed an animal since and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer currently. Until this morning, I actually thought that

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<v Speaker 1>we did the right thing. So this dude from the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth grade, until last week, I thought that he had

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<v Speaker 1>like spared this bird. Yep. Uh. Now I can't stop

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the mama bird watching from high in a

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>tree as we smashed her baby with the cinder block.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for that. Also, I have an anti joke.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of anti jokes, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there's some like established anti jokes. Yeah, the the

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits in the bathtub. I didn't see that one. Two

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>rabbits in the bathtub, and one and said, hey, pass

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<v Speaker 1>me the soap, and the other one said, what do

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<v Speaker 1>I look like a typewriter? So that one didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this one. Though a man walks into a bar,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an alcoholic and it's destroying his family. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that one. I love it. Uh. In all

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<v Speaker 1>seriousness though, guys, thanks with the best podcast around and

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<v Speaker 1>that is from Matt. Thanks Matt. Appreciate that, sorry bubble

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<v Speaker 1>of my friend. Actually I don't appreciate that one at all.

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