1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you're listening to the Velvet 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Edge podcast. This week, my guest is Marvin Wilkerson. Marvin 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: is a master astrologist and hypnotist who has been studying 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: astrology for over fifty years. I heard about Marvin through 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: my dear friend and psychic medium Frank Castellano, and knew 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: that if Frank was referring this guy, he was legit. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I first became interested in astrology after signing up for 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the app the pattern where you enter your birthdate and time, 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: and it sends you a reading each day about what's 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: happening in this cycle of your life. Mine were so 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: spot on that I wanted to dig even deeper, and 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: what Marvin told me was so much more than that, 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: sometimes so much so that it was over my head. 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm definitely still processing. But if you're listening to this 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: and start to feel that way, still keep listening. He 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: does a fifteen minute reading for me that shook me 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: to tears. I will definitely be going back for the 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: full reading. Here's Marvin. Okay, so you're a master astrologer now, 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: but you were just telling me you did radio for 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: your You didn't start here, right, No, tell me more 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: about your career path. Well, I started when I was 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, so obviously you can see that's been 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: one heck of a long time, about fifty years so, um, 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: And it all started with my mother. She was doing 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of searching for truth and questioning and all 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. And when I came home 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: from school, we got into conversation and she threw a 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: book at me, uh from Christia Aready said, uh, that 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: was named Think on These Things. And once I started 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: reading that, that was like a jet engine that propelled 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: me into my own search of truth. And it wasn't 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: long after that. Um, living in Virginia Beach, Virginia, it 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: wasn't hard to find Edgar Casey and psychics and of 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: course astrologer, and I got an astrology reading and I 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: got a psychic reading. Um, and it was all Uh, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: it all started from there. So what was your path though? 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Did you immediately start learning how to read charts and 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: all of the Actually astrology is an extremely in depth 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: uh and takes quite a bit of Um, it takes 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: a long time to learn. I mean you're turning symbols 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: into language and then you're turning intuition into language and 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: so learning people characteristics, learning um, what motivates people, why 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: they do what they do. I mean, you're going into 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: a deep psychology of people. Uh So this took quite 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: a number of years, so probably starting in around around 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: twenty I'm still doing metaphysical and spiritual search and talk 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: to a lot of people then and um, then and 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: abound um um. About eighty I'd say about eight five 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: eighties six I started to um really get serious about 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: studying astrology and then um, and then I became professional. 51 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: So you say, you mentioned symbols and then you mentioned intuition. 52 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: If there's such a big part of intuition in this, 53 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: what's the difference between astrology and like if you go 54 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to get a psychic reading, Well, the psychic reading is 55 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: going to pull out of conversations of what they're hearing 56 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: and what they're sensing in your own energy field right now, 57 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: whereas an astrology reading, I'm reading the energy that's going 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: on currently as well as your energy of when you 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: were born. And then I'm reading a transiting and progressed 60 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: energy of what's going on internally, what's going on externally, 61 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: and well what's going on within the next um reasonably 62 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: six months to a year. So okay, I've got so 63 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: many questions because I want to break this down a 64 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: little bit. But you basically learned about astrology, so you've trained, 65 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: But do you feel like this was something you were born? 66 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: This energy reading and all of that aspect of it 67 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: where you just everybody's sensitive, everybody's got intuition. Everybody understands 68 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: gets get psychic information. They just don't label it like 69 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: a psychic does. UM. So everybody has these impulses and intuition. 70 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: There is no difference in human beings. We all have 71 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: that sixth sense. Some of us developed, some of us 72 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: in eight and some of it is UM. As you 73 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: continually becoming more self aware opening up, you're going to 74 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: get better and better at translating uh energy and the 75 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: psychodynamics of what's going on and why with individuals as 76 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: well as into a bigger picture. So everyone has it, 77 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: it's just some people are a little more turned up. 78 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: Maybe or you can work on opening up. I guess 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: turned up. What I've what I've learned about dealing with 80 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: so many psychics is they're learning about communication in this life. Yeah, 81 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Okay, So the part of it that the 82 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: part of astrology that looks at symbols and the chart 83 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: that you are actually reading when you're doing a reading. 84 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk me through that process, like, what what 85 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: does that mean? You know what one looks like? Well, 86 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: where it is upside down? Okay, well that looks like 87 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe exactly. So you've 88 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: just learned how to read this charge. Everybody knows what 89 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Venus and Bars looks like because that's pretty common, um, 90 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: with Venus having the feminine tail and Mars having the 91 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: um the arrow pointing up out of a circle. Um. 92 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: So all of the planets are asteroids. Some astrologers use 93 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of asteroids. All those are uh, they they 94 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: are the construction of the energy that we deal with 95 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: as human beings. So is just like the sun and 96 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: the moon. Everybody walks around saying what's your sunside? What's 97 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: your sunside? Well, that sun sign at a particular time 98 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: of the of the year, which whatever month you were 99 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: born in, is going to have characteristics and those characteristics 100 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: are um going to be evaluated on how you present 101 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: them as being your individual self. So a sun sign 102 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: is your strength and power and vitality, and this is 103 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: what you use to individuate, to carve out your own 104 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: unique self expression. Okay, so when we are reading these 105 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: horoscope apps or the horoscope reading for a day, what 106 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: do you think about that? Because that's extraordinarily general. That's 107 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: what I was just going to ask. And so that's 108 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: what I call pop astrology because basically it's just written 109 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: for the masses and it's just using general language to 110 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 1: describe each one of the energies that um will help 111 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: the person look into themselves a little more. Now, as 112 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: you progress and become a serious astrologer, then you realise 113 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: this is a map, and that map is going to 114 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: be need to look at holistically. Uh so that all 115 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the energy now is who you are, not just your 116 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: sun side. And you come in with a lot of 117 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: baggage from the past, which would be your moon, which 118 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: means that's all of the patterns and scripts that you 119 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: live your life by, which is what you're going to 120 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: have to face and experience as your life unfolds and 121 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you move through life. When you say past, do you 122 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: mean the past of this life or the past of 123 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: another life? Oh? Past? If you want to believe in 124 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: past life, well then it's all of them, and if 125 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: you just want to believe in this one, well it 126 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: all happened in this one. That pre that reprograms and 127 00:08:53,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: programs you to respond to the past miscreations and misperceptions 128 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: of your past, past lives or how you accepted things 129 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: as a little child. You know, one of the things 130 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: that I tell most of by UM Hypnosis clients is 131 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that by time you're twenty one years old, you've been 132 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: told sixty thousand times who they are, who you are, 133 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: who the world is, and how you fit in it 134 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: sixty thousand times. So that means but by the age 135 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: of one, so that means all of your language has 136 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: been conditioned and programmed, and then you lived the most 137 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: of your life. If you're trying to make adjustments in 138 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: corrections two uh, conflicts to self sabotaging behaviors they have 139 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: you have to make corrections to the belief systems it's 140 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: been and put in place by mother, father, teachers, brothers, sisters, friends, 141 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: society and whoever you hold up on a pedestal, because 142 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: this is who programmed you. There's so many questions going 143 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: in my head. Okay, so then when you read these charts, 144 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: you're saying, these are the map of Like there's something 145 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: I on your website. I think it said, um, it 146 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: was a part of our connection with the universe. And 147 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: so astrology is the chart that helps us understand how 148 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: the universe is guiding us. Would that be a good discussion? 149 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't guide you? We are connected in the total living universe. 150 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: Is all in a connection. Think of it like a 151 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: spider web. Hold on one strand of a spider web. 152 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: It all moves and we all and we're beginning to 153 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: understand that now when we start using words like quant 154 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: them physics, all this means is there's multidimensional uh actions 155 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: that take place because of how we are looking at 156 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: something or experiencing life, or how we are responding to 157 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: uh the energy or the poll of the of the 158 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: of these planets and energies of the universe. So where 159 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: does astrology fall into that, I guess well, astrology is 160 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: the map when you're born. You can look at the 161 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: whole the whole Solar system, much less the whole galaxy, 162 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: and then the whole Milky Way is moving through space. 163 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: The moment that you take your first breath, there's a 164 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: slice in time cutting right out of the DNA of 165 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: the universe. And that slice of time represent sense the 166 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: metaphor of being an oak tree seed. So you are 167 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: the seed of an individualized human being that will ultimately 168 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: one day grow up and become an adult. So that's why. Okay, 169 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: when you go get your chart, your astrology chart, read 170 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: you ask a specific time of day, like if I 171 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: was born a minute later, with my personality and my 172 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: energy be any different, not necessarily, I mean, basically the 173 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: time of day is just get telling me where you 174 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: were born when, where wherever the sun was on the 175 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: whole in the world at the time. So it gives 176 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: me the the evaluation of you as an instinctually operating individual. 177 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: So this is how you use your instincts to express 178 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: your personality and energy. So, whether I have your ascended 179 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: and we call that an ascended chart, if I have 180 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: that chart, or I just run a solar chart, which 181 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: they had to use for thousands of years because they 182 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: didn't have computers nor did they keep track of birth time, 183 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: I can go by your sun sign, which most people 184 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: identify with their sun sign, versus a soul chart. Anyway, 185 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: if I tell you what your soul is here to accomplish, 186 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: that may not necessarily line up with what you think 187 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: you're here to accomplish. So you're going to identify with 188 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: your own creative individualistic ability and from there we go 189 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: on to paint use that map to understand what you're 190 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: trying to evolve and become. So when you read this chart, 191 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: like we're going to do a small version of mine 192 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: in a minute. But like when you read this, that 193 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: is you're you're seeing what my soul is here to do. 194 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: But I may interpret that as or however I want. 195 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily like that chart is going to 196 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: tell me how to live my life, but it's my 197 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: creative interpretation of that. Well that the energies never tell 198 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: you dictate to you how to live your life. You 199 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: choose how to express the energy. See, all of these 200 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: energies reside inside of you, so you choose to express 201 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: them through your own attitude, through your own beliefs, through 202 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: your own ability to uh express your life. Can we 203 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: talk about synchronicity for a second. Okay, So I was 204 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: reading this is again on your website, which had a 205 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: ton of information by the way, if anyone's more interested 206 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: in astrology, um, but that is when you and the 207 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: universe are in line, is that my as my understanding 208 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: correct coincidence moment like this, It's like people think about 209 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: miracles and all of a sudden something happens. Well, the 210 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: truth is all miracles is just as the time and 211 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: the place that all energy comes together and it becomes 212 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: poof a miracle. So synchronicity is nothing more than you 213 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: walking around going, oh, that leaf just fell off the 214 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: tree and hit me on the shoulder. So synchronicity is 215 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: something that occurs through the natural movement of that whole 216 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: connectivity of all energy in the universe, and you're just 217 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: surprised that it happened at this particular moment. So it 218 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: becomes what we call an AHA moment. And so that 219 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: AHA moment is now what we UM are going to define. 220 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: And I tell p but all the time, look who's 221 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: in true role of synchronicity angels. So if you want, 222 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: if you want something in your life, talk to an angel. 223 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: We all got him. Okay, can we talk about that then, 224 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: because so I see this a psychic. His name is Frank. 225 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I think he said he's actually the one who told 226 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: me about you, UM. But he and I talked about 227 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: our spirit guides, and he did talk about angels. So 228 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: what's your belief or understanding of all of that, like 229 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: the universe, what's happened, Like, who's in charge here? What's happening? Well, look, 230 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: you can't you you're not going to change the plan 231 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: of your life. Your life is here for a specific reason, uh, 232 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: and that reason is to express your souls evolutionary intent. 233 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: And in so doing uh um, we are going to 234 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: um uh utilize what was created by the Creator specifically 235 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: for us is angels. They are specifically guides for human 236 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: beings to protect us or to help us along, to 237 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: help give you intuitive nudges, to help you. If you're 238 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: asking for something, how many times have you just says, 239 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: oh I wish, oh I want, oh I desire this. 240 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: This is all being put out into the ethers. It's energy. 241 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: It's energy that's coming off of you. So it's going 242 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: somewhere and it's heard. And so you need you need 243 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: to get over your sickness, illness, you need to get 244 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: over your frustrations. You need to get over I want 245 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: my boyfriend back, or I need to get my winnebago. Well, 246 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: these are all uh desires that are going to be 247 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: supported by the angelic realm. If it's in part of 248 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: your plan. Dag Hammer Shoulder just wrote a great quote, 249 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm a big quote collector. We're not permitted 250 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to choose the frame of our destiny, but what we 251 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: put into it is ours. Tell me more, you, God 252 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: has a plan for us. I think you know, even 253 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: the religious people that I work with, Christians and on UH, 254 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: they all know that the plan is set by God. Well, 255 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: if God sets a plan, what makes you think you're 256 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: going to change it? So you have a purpose in 257 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: this life, and that is to evolve into becoming self 258 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: aware and self realized. And if that is so, well, 259 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: then the soul is going to to feed you the plan. 260 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: And as that onfolds, you become the UH. You grow 261 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: into understanding and self realizing and casting off some of 262 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the negative energies that you've created out of the past. 263 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: That then allows you to become more whole. That's what 264 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you, because we do 265 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: all have our traumas or wounds that we bring into situations. 266 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: So obviously, like I can only speak from my own experience, 267 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: but you know me, the situations I've gone through definitely 268 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: impact the choices I make or relationships I get in 269 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: the things I'm scared to move forward with, and every 270 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: morning I have to say to myself, I have to 271 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: turn my will over because if I don't that, my 272 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: fears and all of the traumas are the things leading 273 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: me in the decision. But so is it my like 274 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: you said this, what did you say to self? Our 275 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: self realized? So are we actually just becoming the best 276 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: version of ourselves by doing that? Doesn't it say you 277 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: are all gods? This is where Frank gets me too. 278 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: So you're all gods and whoever I am, you shall 279 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: be and whatever I've done usually, So, if you're a god, 280 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: why are you playing little League? What do you mean? 281 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Because you're the creator of the universe. You're a part 282 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: and parcel of all the creations of the universe. So 283 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: God give you that energy, and he gives you all 284 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: of his power and you go by cars with it 285 00:20:51,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: and he build universes. Right, that is little League. So 286 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Frank and I have talked about the um when before 287 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: you come down to Earth, you kind of pick what 288 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: you need to learn in this life. Do you believe 289 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: that you it's more than just picking. I mean, you've 290 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: got to go before a council. You've got to um 291 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: set out a plan. That plan has to be part 292 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: of the energy stream that's bringing you back into the 293 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: physical dimensions anyway. So that's all done by the high 294 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: self and consciousness. It's not done by your mind and 295 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: your personality self. This is this is dictated by your 296 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: high self, which is connected to all consciousness, which then 297 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: instructs the soul on what you accomplish, what you didn't accomplish. 298 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: So that now that miscreation of perception and belief of 299 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: things because you're a god and you don't believe that, 300 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: you don't accept that totally enough. So that is what's 301 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: going to bring you back in to the energetic UH 302 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: stream of the physical dimension. And it's we create a 303 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: certain plan for this, and you create the plan. So 304 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: to say that is going to put you UH in 305 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: every situation is going to make bring you in contact 306 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: with every human being that you're supposed to be in 307 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: contact with. Friends, enemies, hateful people, evil people, good people, 308 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: wonderful people, happy people. So it brings you into those contacts. 309 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: So then you have control over two things, attitude and love. 310 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: Other than that, you might as well surround because you're 311 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: not going to change your destiny and the plan. Now 312 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 1: the quote I love is uh. Whether you call it 313 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: a stone, a beast, to treat a human, a demon, 314 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: or the divine, everything is the same energy manifesting itself 315 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: in a million different ways as a human choose out 316 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: a manifest Mm hmm, that's sudde Guru. I love that. 317 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: That the only two things we can control, our attitude 318 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and love. That's right, because when you're going through a 319 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: hard time, the first thing I try to control is 320 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: what's happening the situation, how to make it work in 321 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: the way that I needed to or I think I 322 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: needed to work in. Well, the biggest thing that the 323 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: number one question that will resolve the vast percentage of 324 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: all personal and human conflict is when you say, how 325 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: too is this perfect? And why did I attract this? In? 326 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: What dim I to learn from this? What do you 327 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: mean why did I attract this thing? Because I immediately 328 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to that sounds like I'm punishing myself or something. You 329 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: just took the assumption that you're punishing Everything is not 330 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: a punishment. There's no there are no punishments. There are 331 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: there are frustrations because of your belief systems, but it 332 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're being punished when you go through 333 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: a frustrating period. Don't you learn something from it? Don't 334 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: you grow from it? Yeah, well that's called evolution. And 335 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: so it's the miscreations that's keeping you in the little 336 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: leagues that you've got to keep getting corrected. So then 337 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: we keep drawing in certain situations until even so you 338 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: are responsible for all the retraction repall, adhesion and cohesion 339 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: principles in your life. Your energy field. That just changes 340 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot in my head. So and that's and this 341 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: is uh, this is um neuroscience. It's a fact we 342 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: all have a prior receptive which you'll know as what 343 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: you know the metaphysical community calls the aura. Well, it's 344 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: an energy field that goes around the body. Well, when 345 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: that brain of yours, that subconscious mind is says oh 346 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: I want this, Well, that sets off neurow neuro transmitters 347 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: that didn't fire, and you draw the neural pathways that 348 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: then electrify that prior acceptive. Well, that electrical field then 349 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: that goes around this body is now becomes a retraction 350 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: repulsion adhesion principle in your life. So if you attracted 351 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: it in well, why not take response to ability for it. 352 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to look at that. So if 353 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: you attract in a mate, or you tracked in a boyfriend, 354 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: or you tracked in several of them and they're all 355 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: the same, why do you keep getting the same? That's 356 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: what you're drawing in. Because it's what you're drawing in. 357 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: And until you say, all right, what do I have 358 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: to change in me? When you start turning the inner 359 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: gaze and the focus on me, I'm responsible, well, then 360 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: you can start correcting the vast majority of issues in 361 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: your life. So how does astrology or knowing your reading, 362 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: getting a chart reading help you to do that? Well, 363 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: when I look at a chart, I'm looking at that 364 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: moment in time that you were born that's unique and 365 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: individualistic to you. And then I'm looking at you see 366 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: once that moment goes well, then there's a million moments 367 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: on past that. Well, it's just like the friction that 368 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: you're using to stand up erect when the ground is 369 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: trying to pull you down, right, all right, Well, you're 370 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: taking energy to straighten up, and so it's just like 371 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: all energy is in relation to all other energy, which 372 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: creates a energetic soup which then you've got to navigate, 373 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: and so I look at UM. I look at when 374 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a UM, what's going on now for 375 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: you today and what we're going to look as as prognostication. UM. 376 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Then what you're looking at is how that energy is 377 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: affecting that initial energy of your birth, which is who 378 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: you are. You are the oak tree you always will be. 379 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: But just like an oak tree, if it grows on 380 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: the side of a hill, it's got to keep making 381 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: corrections to keep standing up on the side of that hill. 382 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: And if the wind comes, it bends it and bows it, 383 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and then it grows in different shape. If it's reaching 384 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: for the sun in the forest, it's got to reach 385 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: into where there's an opening so it can get sun 386 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: to survive. So there's lots of things that have to 387 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: be done that you can use the astrological map that 388 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: then helps you understand why. So it's essentially another kind 389 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: of guide. So when someone comes to your office, what 390 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: does that experience look like? Like? What does the process 391 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: of having your chart red look like? Well, you just 392 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: give me your information and I pull it up and 393 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: I just begin. Now there's different kinds of astrologers. Some 394 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: of them are totally into prediction some upper nuts? Are 395 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: you nuts? No, I'm afraid not. I walked the talk um. 396 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: So I mean you know when I use the word prediction. Um, 397 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: if I said to you, uh, it's going to rain today, 398 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: would you put an umbrella by the front door? Probably? Why? 399 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Just in case? Okay? So if I tell you you 400 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: got Saturn getting ready to square your son, and it's 401 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: going to cause a lot of hardships that you personally 402 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: have created, but it's going to expose them to you, 403 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: objectify them so that you can work through these hardships 404 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: and take responsibility for what you've created in life. What 405 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: would that mean to you? I mean what would it 406 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: mean to me? Or what would I do? What would 407 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: you do? I think I would have to sit with 408 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: it until I just started to see it. Is that 409 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: what you're reading in much heart right now? Great? Damn it? Okay, 410 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: we should we do my fifteen minute reading right now? 411 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: It's up to you. Yeah, let's do it. So what 412 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: are you Is that part of what you're seeing? Well, 413 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: obviously you know that it is, and you know that 414 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: that has um in a broad way. Is that's what's 415 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: been going on? You are? You are very definitely needed 416 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: to look at your communications. You're needing to evaluate how 417 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: your feelings are working into your everyday life and how 418 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you think about things and relate to things. So you 419 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: need to become more sensitive and responding more uh emotionally 420 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: and intuitively to things, uh than to try to create 421 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: things by establishing some sort of goal or working toward 422 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: making things be like you want them to be. Uh. 423 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: So uh this is coming right out of your your 424 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: path in life, and it should be one that where 425 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: you're noticing your feelings, you're validating them. There's nothing more 426 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: important than feelings and emotions. They're the most honest things 427 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: there are, and so you're developing a sense of empathy 428 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: and humility. You're learning how to nurture yourself and others. 429 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: You're being shown how to build your own foundation and security. 430 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: So anything that's going on now in your life over 431 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: the last four five six months has been showing you 432 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: that over and over and over, so that you're ultimately 433 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: slowly changing your perspective and perception of things as you 434 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: are then um becoming more honest about your emotions and feelings. 435 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: You're accepting others as emotional and they've got you know, 436 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: these waves of emotional tantrums as well, and you're not 437 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: judging them as much as you used to. Uh, and 438 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: you're staying centered in your own feelings a little bit more. 439 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so spoling, I could cry? Okay, you're 440 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: allowed to cry. Wow. Now that was just um. You 441 00:32:53,280 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: see you are adjusting to how to have relationships uh 442 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: in this life. Um uh that that is going to 443 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: be much more of a heartfelt emotional connection to things. 444 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: And when we're emotionally connected, there's a great much greater 445 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: intimacy than being a cold callous ceo that I've got 446 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: power and money and I don't have to expose my 447 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: personality and my true self recognize those Okay. And so 448 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: when we become much more feeling and emotionally driven, we 449 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: become we have much greater depth in our experience. We 450 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: have much greater intimacy. We um. We we get the 451 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: connection of much more on an intimate level. This is 452 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: early education. So this is brothers and sisters are important 453 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: with this, um, how we are think about your your 454 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: relationship patterns. Who was the first person you had a 455 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: relationship with like a boyfriend? No, my parents, no, your 456 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: brothers or sisters did you have any have a younger brother. Okay, 457 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: well that was your first relationship, and however that relationship 458 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: plays out, which was an emotional relationship, probably still is 459 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: in some respects, then that is going to set a 460 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: pattern of how you relate two relationships. Mm hmm. You 461 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: see that connection. M hm okay. And then if you say, 462 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: how can what is this trying to show me about 463 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: my relationship patterns? What is he teaching me? What do 464 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: I need? What is my perception and perspective that needs 465 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: to be changed so that I can have much more 466 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: honest relationships and intimacy. Then I can see the world, people, places, 467 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: and things from a much more of a reality standpoint 468 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: and the strength of my own self image and emotional security. 469 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: So obviously we're going pretty deep. See how pass that works? God, 470 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: that's insane, So I'll let up. You got some positive 471 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: times coming, You've got some very positive transformation is getting 472 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: ready to take place in your career, your status. I 473 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: would say that over the next several years, you're going 474 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: to become a lot more um uh successful. Uh. You'll 475 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: be pushing towards accomplishing things in a very powerful, very 476 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: powerful way, and they will succeed as they are divinely 477 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: orchestrated that you've planned out to succeed. Uh So, your 478 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: growth right now is going to be immense, and you're 479 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: definitely going to tap more into the spiritual aspects of 480 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: life versus just the cold, hardened realities of survival living 481 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: in capitalism. So uh as that begins to unfold, um, 482 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: I would say that you know things are things are 483 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: looking up for you. They're gonna start turning up pretty good. 484 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: And I would say in about another three years, it's 485 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna be an extraordinary amount of individualism that starts coming 486 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: out to where you start really standing up and walking 487 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: the talk. And so let's see, you're eighteen and nineteen 488 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: thirty seven, so you're you're going to come into opening 489 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: the throat chakra in about two three years, which will 490 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: meet your voice will come out over the next several years, 491 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: and you're going to start speaking your honest truth. This 492 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: is why you're making adjustments in the emotional concepts right 493 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: now and the feeling concepts so that when you start 494 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: opening the throat chakra and declaring how you think, feel 495 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: and see things, then it will take much more power 496 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: and it will be much more intuitive. It will be 497 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: much more individualistic. What do you mean individual individually? Individualistic 498 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: is how we want to describe our own expression of God. 499 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: M m hmm. That's the only thing I liked about 500 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: George Bush the thousand Points of Light, because that's what 501 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: we are. We're all an individual light of God, and 502 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: we're a representative and He sent us here for a mission. 503 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: And as we fulfill our mission and do our uh 504 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: do our creative ability and expression, and we serve humanity 505 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: as a whole, that's a fulfillment of our mission. So 506 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: it takes the individuality, the individual person, not being conditioned 507 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 1: by all the conditioning people, but our own unique self expression. 508 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: There's only one Kelly Henderson in the world, and she's 509 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: very unique. I like that where you're going to like 510 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: it even more in three years. Well you're liking it now, 511 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be even better. Oh my gosh, that 512 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like a little shook right now. That 513 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: was very spot well. You see, this is the problem 514 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: when you become when you've been doing this fifty years 515 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: and I've read what ten thousand charts in minimum thousands, 516 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: astrology is nothing more than observation correlation. I have seen 517 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: this signature how many times with clients, and I see 518 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: how they operate with it. I see how they choose 519 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: to act and their attitude and so forth with it. 520 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: And this gives me the observation of how people choose 521 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: to use energy, and then that allows me to say, well, 522 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: if you're using it that a way, it's going to 523 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: create a little more of a struggle or self sabotage. 524 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: Then what you really need to go through if you'll 525 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: just change your perspective just a little bit, since you 526 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: have people like if I instead of crying just now, 527 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: I would have gotten piste off, Like does that happen 528 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: in your reading? Why would you get piste off at 529 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: the truth? I wouldn't. But what they don't? I mean 530 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: that goes in hit you right at your soul level, 531 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: isn't it? Well, then how are you going to get 532 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: mad at me? But you said you read the energies 533 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: of it, and like, did you read my energy? That 534 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to struggle with that or that I'm going 535 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: to accept that it's all part of the map and 536 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: it's all part of what's going on. Okay, Well, now 537 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: I have a hundred questions. I guess I don't have 538 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: time for this. Well, that's what happens. I mean you 539 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: say you're pulling the thread, right, You're pulling the needle 540 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: out of the haystack. And the more you pulled, the 541 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: more there's there. And this is who we are and 542 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: what we're all about. And when you're when you're on 543 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: a search for truth, when you're on a spiritual path, 544 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: uh using anything whether I don't care whatever religion it is, 545 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't care how you are searching for your authentic self. 546 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: It's always the same. It's always going to give you 547 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: more questions so you can provide more answers and you 548 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: can get to your truth. So on your website, I 549 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: read something you said because you refer to yourself as 550 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: a seeker, and I always think of myself as a 551 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: secret to I'm so curious, like and I just want 552 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: to keep growing and learning and all of those things. 553 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't think about everyone that way. But you said 554 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: we are all seekers, So so everyone is everyone is 555 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: everyone is. It just looks different. Doesn't make any difference. 556 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 1: If there are a criminal in a con and jail, 557 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: they're learning something. The soul is learning something. You see, 558 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: we automatically take that ego personality as the driver in 559 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: this life. Well, it's not. It's only looking for pleasure 560 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: and gain. That's all it's looking for. It can care 561 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: less about your safety, could care less about what you 562 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: get into. It's looking for pleasure and gain. Your subconscious 563 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: mind is responsible for of all reality. That's a scientific fact. 564 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: So in other words, your subconscious brain, which is very 565 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: small behind your head, is what is controlling your life 566 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: by making two millisecond responses, and so in doing so, 567 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: the soul, which is housed in that section of the brain, 568 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: is leading and guiding your life and and providing the 569 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: impulses for you to make choices which you think you 570 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: made them, and you didn't make anything close to that 571 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: because it isn't necessarily a part of pleasure and gain. 572 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: The soul will send you in the harm's way if 573 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: it thinks you're going to get a valuable lesson from it. 574 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: If you're going to get a valuable lesson and grow, well, 575 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: then the soul doesn't care what you go through. I'm 576 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: how much money you got, what position you are. It 577 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: only cares about your growth. That's what's responsible for you 578 00:43:49,440 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: becoming the authentic you. So everybody inevitably is being guided 579 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: by their own soul. Now there is uh unique circumstances. 580 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: And I just say unique, and I just say it 581 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: in passing. Yes, I mean a soul can absolutely get 582 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: itself in deep trouble by the personality dominating versus the soul. See, 583 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: there's a there's a great struggle that goes on between us. 584 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: It's the ego personality versus the soul, your higher mind, 585 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: your intuition, and then that intuition loses over and over 586 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: and over. Well, then there there's gets situations. It's been 587 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: said by many sages and down through history. You lose 588 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: the opportunity to have your unique soul. So how do 589 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: you stop letting the ego or the personality control the 590 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: mind doing what ego personality the thoughts? Haven't you ever 591 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: realized you don't have to think your Brian thinks on 592 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: itself all by itself. See, the mind can't know itself, 593 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: the body can't know itself, but the mind can know 594 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: the body. So what knows the mind, consciousness, the high self? 595 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: And so that is what is the the evaluating compass 596 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: of what is going to evaluate the soul and whether 597 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: you've passed or failed, you know Edgar Casey said, and 598 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: I've read many of his readings growing up in Virginia Beach, 599 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: and they're strong with people that went to him and said, well, 600 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: this soul gained and failed in this life, and this 601 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: old game failed and then gained back, and this soul 602 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: gained and so you know, there's there's plenty of well 603 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: there's plenty that's been written and said about that from 604 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: all stages, from all great avatars down through the centuries. 605 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: So that because that's making me think of the different 606 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: levels of or when we say we need to come 607 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: back and do this to learn that lesson, well, it's 608 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: not really you see, when we when we think of 609 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: coming back, we think we're going someplace, and we're coming 610 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: back to this place, and there is no places. It's 611 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: an all energetic dimension, so it's all vibrational. So you 612 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: you wis sinned by vibrating by vibration, and consciousness to 613 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: a certain level will once you get back into the 614 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: energy stream of conscious this and then that that consciousness, uh, 615 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: that soul realizes that there's still miscreations and misperceptions that 616 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: are deluding you. Well, then it gets back into the 617 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: energy stream that will ultimately then delve down through vibration 618 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: into this dimension which is three dimensional. I have to 619 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: stay with that one for a minute. It's a lot 620 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: of process. This is what fifty years does to you. 621 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: So in your services you also you have other things 622 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: you do like hypnosis. Yeah, that's my healing abilities. What 623 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, hypnosis is um uh. This is 624 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: where you addressed the subconscious mind so that you can 625 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: influence through suggestibility and reframing old thought patterns that are 626 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: causing problems, sabotages and um. I like to use it 627 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 1: to get into a higher realm, so that you've since 628 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: at that connectedness of the higher realms. But I mean, 629 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: you know you can get into uh, healing the body. 630 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean what makes you ill? What makes you sick? Well, 631 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: that's the ego mind, because the body's immune system is 632 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: the most powerful thing. And in the moment that you 633 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: get your ego pleasure seeking mind out of what's going 634 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: on with your body, well, then your subconscious mind and 635 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: the immune system immediately begin healing it immediately, really really 636 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: really like even things like cancer. What do you mean 637 00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: anything you are over this body? Does Jesus healed the body? No? 638 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: What did he say? He said? Go? Your faith has 639 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: healed you. Oh, everybody has a healer inside of him. 640 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: That's what Albert Schweitzer said. So what other services do 641 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: you offer? You do the astrology charts are the reading? Well, 642 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: I do more of the hypnosis because it's therapeutic and 643 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: it helps people with smoking and way lost in confidence 644 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: and anxieties and phobias and fears and all those kinds 645 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: of things. And um, you know, I you know, you 646 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: get to a certain place when you read an astrology chart, 647 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: as I just a little sample for you that you know, 648 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: I can give you a reading and if it's an hour, 649 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: hour and a half, you leave the door and I'm 650 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: done with you. And I give you such volumeous amounts 651 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 1: of information with such depths, You'll probably work on that 652 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. And so it just 653 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: began to feel unfulfilling. I wanted to really get in 654 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: and help someone, and so one day I was and 655 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: it was here in Nashville that I did it. I was, 656 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: I left Corporate America and I started doing some more 657 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: readings again. And I was telling somebody, uh that they 658 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: had some subconscious patterns that were, you know, being uh 659 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: two instrumental in their life. There were two Um, they 660 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: were sabotaging their efforts, so to speak. Um, they were 661 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: keeping them from accomplishing what they're what they wanted to. 662 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: So I say, well, you know, there's a lot of 663 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: interference through the subconscious and the unconscious mind. You probably 664 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: ought to get a regression. So they said, they come 665 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: back to me one, well who does it? And I said, well, 666 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Back in the eighties when US hit 667 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: these we're doing regressions, and it was a big deal 668 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: back then. You know, I did a lot of them 669 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: back then, but you know, it was another thing that 670 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, it became more of a uh happy gyo 671 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: giggles thing. Oh I was regressed. So I went back 672 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: to past lot, Well you know what does that mean? 673 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: What's it do for you? So I kind of lost 674 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: interests in regressions. But you know when I, um, when 675 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: I was talking to them, I just knew that there 676 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: was a great influence in the unconscious. So I thought, well, 677 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: they came back to me and said, well what do 678 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: you get When I said, I don't know, Uh, there's 679 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: somebody ought to be doing them here in Nashville. And 680 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: they come back and they said, well, we can't find 681 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: anybody I said, all, well, hell, I'll do it. And 682 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: so I read this book from a guy in Denver, 683 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: said the New Regression Therapy. Uh, and it mentioned something 684 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: about taking it hypnosis course, and I said, hypnosis. I 685 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: never thought about doing anything like that. So I got 686 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: online and I found a place that I could go 687 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: get a certification and brought probably a thousand hours later 688 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: and thousands of clients. And um, I'm a master hypnotist 689 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: as well. So do people if you're coming to do 690 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 1: a hypnosis session. Can you accomplish enough in one session 691 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: to be kind of over something or does it take 692 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: multiple sessions or does it depend on what it is? 693 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 1: Typically it takes multiple sessions because the subconscious mind learns 694 00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: through reinforcement. So, um, most of my client hands, I 695 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: mean all of my clients. Actually, I'll pull a solar 696 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: chart and look and see what's going on with their 697 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: energy and then and then I'll get an idea of 698 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: what their conflict that they're talking about versus what the 699 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: energy is telling me, and then what kind of gulf 700 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: that we've got to um a cross. So that helps 701 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: me set a strategy to help them accomplish for themselves 702 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 1: what they need to heal and so uh, if if 703 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: you watch a commercial one time, you wouldn't go out 704 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: and buy that crap, But if you watch it a 705 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: thousand times, you go out and pick it up and 706 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: don't even know why because the color of the box, 707 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: the lettering, or whatever. Because the subconscious mind makes a 708 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 1: two millisecond decision, the conscious mind takes fifty five milliseconds. 709 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: That's a freaking tub boat compared to a speedboat. So 710 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 1: advertisers sell to them to millice can because they don't 711 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: want you making a decision on buying their product, and 712 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: that's called neuromarketing. So then that's essentially how hypnosis works. 713 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: When we do it over and over and over. Well, yeah, 714 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: usually about four sessions, I can I make corrections and 715 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: help more people make corrections and they make the adjustments 716 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: and the last majority of cases. Um I read on 717 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: your site that you do do skype sessions, so if 718 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: people want to do that, and where can people find you? 719 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: What's your website? You would go into um uh, if 720 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: you went to b L hypnosis dot com, that takes 721 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: you to my hypnosis website. If you go into Astro 722 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 1: marv dot com, that will take you to my astrology site. Um, 723 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: I am on Skype at either Marvin Wilkerson or b 724 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: L Hypno says I actually to my fault time forget 725 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: exactly into But if you do that then we can 726 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: get on. If not, you can call me and I 727 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: we can. I can help you figure out how to 728 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: get on in contact me through Skype because Skype you've 729 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: got to send me a message yes let him come through, 730 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: or yes, let me go through or whatever, C S 731 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: C s C. Okay, So your website is probably the 732 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: best route to get in contact touch with me. Well, 733 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna obviously do the rest of my reading. I'm 734 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: very interested in this now. Um you guys go check 735 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: out Marvin and all of the I mean, there's so 736 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: much information on your website just in general about both 737 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: the astrology and also the hypnosis. So if you're interested 738 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: in any of that, definitely check him out. And thank 739 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: you guys for listening. Thank you for being here, Marvin, Well, 740 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Bye. This is Kelly Henderson 741 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: and you've been listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast. I 742 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 1: truly believe that every one of us has a little 743 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: velvet and a little edge, so it's so important to 744 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: remember that to be strong, you must be soft too. 745 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing in those stories with me. 746 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: You can follow velvet's Edge on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, 747 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: as well as velvet's Edge dot com. If you have 748 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: it yet, go to Apple Podcasts and subscribe, rate, and 749 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: review this podcast. Join me every Wednesday for more conversations 750 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: on lifestyle, beauty, and relationships. Thanks for listening.