WEBVTT - Miami Ain’t No Sanctuary City 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.920 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:09.280 Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, everybody, this is your favorite 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:13.000 politics and culture podcast, Native Lampod coming at. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.319 You with episode four. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.079 We are your hosts Angela Rae, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.560 And as you know, we keep it real because what 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.560 else can you keep? 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.480 What's up everybody? What's up you guys? 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.560 What's good? What's good? 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.040 Everybody? As usual. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.280 I want to give a quick shout out to the 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.040 Gathering Spot broadcasting live from the Gathering Spot. So thanks, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:45.160 thanks to you guys for partnering with Native Lampodana. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.000 Andrew and tiff I miss you guys. It's been too long. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.199 I'm gonna see you in person next week. I'm excited 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:49.760 about that. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.920 I was gonna say, let's get together in person time. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.440 I think we would flow better when we're in the 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:56.960 same room. We can. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:05.399 Energy send you from here, put hands on it, okay 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:06.560 and required. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.360 But here's what we need the people to do in 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.280 the meantime until we get back together, and that is 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.240 we want you all to please make sure you are 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:16.280 subscribing to Native lampid. You are downloading every single episode 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.480 and you're reviewing the show. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.800 We can take a hater remark here and there, but 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.679 we mostly want to. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:25.640 Keep the love, okay, everybody, So I gotta say, it's 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.240 crazy how much has happened since we last got together. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.319 Joe Biden said he's ready to shut down the border. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.320 All the while, the House Committee on Homeland Security is 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.039 teeing up an impeachment of the DHS Secretary of New 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.560 Yorkis cities are reeling with the response to migrants, and 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.440 residents are filling the pinch of being left behind. Donald 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.120 Trump has designated Tim Sick and Tire Scott as the 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.200 head of White Outreach. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:50.480 Oh my bad, My bad. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.640 It's supposed to be black outreach, but it probably should 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.360 have been white either way. He's thinking there's a play 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.280 for the blackmail vote on today. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.240 Those are my bars. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.360 Tip, You're not the only one, but I think this 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.560 is not exactly the case. Meg the Stallion hissed that 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.720 Nikki and send her into a spiral of online bullying 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.440 for seventy two hours in counting. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.360 Is that how we honor in hip hop fifty? 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.960 I don't know you've been following this for seventy two I. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.320 Mean the people have said, speaking of hip hop, fifty 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.919 K Solo said, your mom's in my business. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.000 She's in my business. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.320 I wonder what he would say about the NSA being 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.920 in the business. So we can talk a little bit 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.160 about that too. And it wouldn't be Home without our 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.720 listeners and viewers. So we are doing Q and A 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.400 throughout this episode to create even more of a conversation. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.440 And we even have some inspiration from a faithful listener 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.360 that's a surprise, so make sure you stay tuned. Also 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.080 today my governor and my co host, my brother Andrew Gillam, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.240 is sharing his very courageous story. You do not want 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:54.399 to miss this, y'all. This is episode for a welcome home. Okay. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.560 So from Kamala Harris's viral moment, do not come to 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.120 the Biden administrations and initial proposal that was to restore 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.280 humanity and American values to our immigration system, Joe's taking 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.200 a hard turn to the right. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.280 Joe Biden is now saying this not. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.400 Biller the law today. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.880 I'd shut down the border right now and fix it quickly. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.440 And Congress needs to get it done. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:17.640 Okay. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.480 So, as you all know, there is a lot going 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.920 on with our community in particularly excuse me, in particular 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:26.640 with immigration. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.320 I think we're real divided. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.720 We got a lot of pushback, even from the audience 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.240 of Native lampod Last week. We were joking about New Hampshire, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.440 like what New Hampshire got to do with border security? 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.800 But folks are like, actually a whole lot there are 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.600 differing opinions here, and apparently, y'all we're not necessarily in 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.280 lockstep with the culture. So I would like to have 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.760 y'all weigh in here. And I'm definitely not in lockstep 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.000 but what Biden's talking about, and I'm even more definitely 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.200 not in lockstep with what Donald Trump has said about 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:54.760 the border. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.120 So hey, aint, y'all what you got? 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.680 Yeah, I gotta tell you, angel I was really disappointed 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.240 with a lot of the comments. They were very anti immigrant, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.720 and I just want to kick us off and is 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.400 having this conversation by saying, listen, this country has not 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.960 been kind to any community of color and weaponizing communities 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.320 of color against each other. That is the devil's work, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.080 and I just don't want us to do that. I 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.640 think there are legitimate questions around the strain that immigration 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.160 places on us from a federal policy, especially to a state. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:27.880 And local government. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.479 I actually I don't think we were really joking around 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.920 New Hampshire, because it was a legitimate question, what is 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.880 the huge immigration policy that would be number two that 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.640 most New Hampshire states were voting on, particularly when that 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.520 state is nearly ninety four percent white. So I think 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.160 those were legitimate questions. I think the consistent comment in 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.640 a lot of from a lot of our viewers was 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:52.680 this notion that immigration takes away resources from black communities. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.760 And I just want to say that is not true. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.719 Undocumented immigrants pay more than eleven billion dollars in taxes 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:04.359 every year. Undocumented immigrants are not really eligible for a 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.640 lot of federal benefits, and some of the labor shortages 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.680 that we see in our community would have happened anyway. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.080 That is not You have to consider things like automation 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.599 and the way the economy is going that is not 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.920 undocumented immigrants taking away from you. I understand that I'm 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.839 speaking as someone who hasn't worked on this policy, but Andrew, you, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.159 I mean, you were a mayor, you were running to 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.839 run a state. I'm really curious for you because you 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.400 look at mayors like Eric Adams and what's happening in 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.560 New York, what's happening in Chicago with these you know, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.400 immigrants getting dropped off? What is I don't want us 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.120 to lose the humanity in all of this, but what 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.159 is like common sense immigration solutions? And do these folks 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.720 have a point for being so upset about it? 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.480 You set it up well, Angela, and it is a 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.240 real broad conversation. But I want to go back to 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.440 the premise, which was Biden's talking point of I'm going 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.320 to close the border. The American borders have always been closed. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.720 Let's reject the Republican talking points. There is always been 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.800 a process for legal entry and asylum entry and a 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.000 whole bunch of other designations we are not going to 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.800 go through on this show. But there have always been 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.520 processes in place by which people legally enter this country. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.760 That's number one. Don't accept the Republican talking point and 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.520 frame on this frame this thing to what it is 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.240 in real life. To people who are you know, saying 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.040 I agree with Trump and the Republicans, these folks who 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:30.000 taking jobs. I am not going to tell you to 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:35.960 betray your very beautiful twenty twenty vision seeing eyes because 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.440 I know from experiencing my own community, and I heard 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.159 about it on the trail and otherwise. Jobs. At one 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.159 time I could drive past and see black folk doing 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.520 I've experienced it's largely in the blue collar sector where 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.880 it's most visible when you're driving past and they're construction 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.040 workers on the street, and they are folks who are 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.279 doing the traffic, you know, the road repairs and all 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.640 that kind of stuff. There used to be a lot 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.480 more black men when I was growing up and where 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.359 I live, and folks have noticed that the faces have 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.960 shipped have changed in that y'all. This is no different 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.600 than what folks up in the Northeast during the still 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:17.000 boom and industrial the Irish folks was coming in to 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.560 replace the good white man. If you were in Detroit, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.400 Michigan working for Henry Ford, and he bought in Middle Easterners, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.320 which is why it's the largest concentration of Middle Easterners 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.520 in the world outside of the Middle East is in Detroit. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.680 He bought them because he didn't want to shut the 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.200 factories down during the summer. It was molding hot, and 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.480 he didn't want to have to take the workers off 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.440 the line. He wanted to continue to produce. So what 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.600 did he do. He got planes and boats, well not 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:49.080 planes but ships, and bought over Middle Easterners who now 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.440 are still huge constituency parts of Detroit and Michigan and 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.480 all around. Our Congresswoman Rashida till Alive could tell us 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.560 about that. But again, there was some replacement that was 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.120 happening for a corporate economic need. In my state of Florida, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.280 we have a lot of immigrants who do a lot 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.240 of the farming grapefruits and oranges and so on and 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.480 so forth, and those are tending to be around the people. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.960 But if an employer a company is prepared and willing 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.440 and able to give away the work to workers who 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.320 are willing to do it at either half the cost 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.720 or off the books, or for a cash trade rather 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.800 than whatever, then there's always going to be a market 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.360 for people who are going to do it less. And 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.680 I think if we were serious about real immigration reform, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.920 we would put the emphasis on a national comprehensive solution 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.360 that is led by cracking down on the economic powers 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:53.480 of this country who are manipulating, using benefiting from the 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.280 hard labor of folks, but they're not being paid with 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.800 their worth and they're making the trade off. But displacing 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.559 a whole different set of people. But to your point, Tiffany, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.120 at the local level, these folks pay taxes that they 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.319 don't get tax refunds for. And my state, where we 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.320 don't have a property, we have a property tax, but 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.480 we don't have a state income tax. The large percentage 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.160 of taxes are collected through sales. So if you go 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.680 and buy milk and eggs and groceries and you're paying 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.480 the text of the gas station, you're contributing to Florida's 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.720 tax base in a regressive way. I might add, but 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.440 you're paying into the system and you're not taking from it. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.600 I know you're never gonna believe that these folks are 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.600 not here and replacing you, But the truth is they're 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.560 here making contributions and are not getting the resources that 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.680 they would otherwise receive, and we end up at the 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.120 local level paying the huge lion's share of burden of 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.360 cost here because the federal government isn't willing to do 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.760 anything solve the problem by fixing the rules. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.640 Well, I'm key, you're saying, but you're saying that we 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.960 paid the burden of cost, and I think that's what 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.920 a lot of the people who are leaving these comments 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.840 suggesting that it is a strain on our resources. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.679 Immigrants are and they're paying more. And by the way, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.600 these folks aren't wrong that they're seeing the bill because 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.880 they see their taxes go up and they make the contribution. Well, y'alling. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.200 We're paying at the local level to solve an immigration 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.680 and issue, more than Donald Trump paid in the entirety 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.120 before becoming president of the United States or since, and 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:28.400 taxes working folks have paid more than the wealthy class 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.280 and taking care of this problem. They give us lip service, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.480 but they don't give us no green you to help 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.439 us through the Issuas. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.560 You've reference the comments, I do want to get into 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.240 the comments because this is a safe place for our audience, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.920 our listeners. So this is from Dina in New York, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.880 where we know there's also a migrant crisis that they're 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.400 actively trying to solve. Dina says, how do we own 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.600 the conversation surrounding the southern border? Black people in my 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.080 community feel like Trump would handle the alleged crisis better 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.480 than Biden. Also, I'm extremely concerned that Biden will sign 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.440 a bad deal to appease a voting block that will 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.040 not vote for him anyway. I believe immigration reform is 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.679 desperately needed, but this hardline position held by right wing 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.079 Republicans will put us right back where we were prior 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.160 to the Civil Rights movement, only allowing Caucasians into this country. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.440 I would love to hear your views on this. I 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.400 love this question from Dina. I think she spot on. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.440 This is exactly why I started with Biden's plan today. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.280 It is a hard right turn towards right wing Republicans 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.400 that are never going to vote for him, and he's 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.360 abandoning potentially some of his base. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.160 TIF you had an excellent point before. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.520 We got on today about why you thought he actually 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.720 is not making the pivot to right wing Republicans. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.880 What did you say, Tip. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.920 And why that he's not making it? Well, I don't 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.280 know what did I say. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.640 You were talking about how you think he actually is 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.640 trying to appease the base because to the point, we 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.240 have black folks in our comments who actually agree with 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:57.760 some of what Joe Biden has done. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:58.800 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.120 So the different is I think both parties are right, 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.960 but both parties are doing this by weaponizing communities of 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.840 color against each other. Look, Republicans do not have any 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:14.160 interest in protecting black men and their pathway to you know, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.600 being construction workers or black women in their pathway. But 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.520 they're very strategic and targeting black men with that message, 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.160 and so you hear a lot of people parroting those 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.240 same talking points, which something that that you know was 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.680 going to happen anyway. My only point is that immigrants, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.440 undocumented immigrants even are not stealing those levels that level 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.080 of resource from our community. It's just not true. Study 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.520 after study, from the from the Pew Research Center to 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.080 the acl you has shown that there's not some sort 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.800 of resource stuff going on. Angel I actually had a 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.800 question for you though, because a lot of people don't 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.720 know your policy background, but you actually started on Capitol 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:59.199 Hill working on Homeland security for mister Bennie Thompson, who, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:04.120 as we know, yeah, when they were in the majority, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.240 chaired the Homeland Security Committee. So I do wonder when 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.840 we talk about a federal immigration policy, what could that 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.760 look like, because then you get into the issue of states' 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:18.200 rights and you know, usurping some of these local governments. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.640 So I don't know the solution, but I know I 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.200 would like to take away that rhetoric of we're stealing, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.000 you know, the brown folks are stealing from us, because 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:26.800 that's the devil's work. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.680 It is the devil's work. Tip. I will say a 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:29.320 couple of things. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.319 One is, I think that we often forget that black 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.560 people are immigrants too, and oftentimes, like I don't know 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.920 if you all remember, of course, you remember the very 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.199 traumatic photo we saw that took us back to slavery, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.840 when you saw that white border patrol officer on a 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.520 horse almost cracking a whip on a Haitian migrant, right like, 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.640 we have to remember our humanity first. I also and 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.920 shout out to the indigenous community who've been so kind, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.920 embracing and talking to us about this pod. These borders 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.920 are artificially created, right Like, I'm not saying that there 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.600 shouldn't be immigration policy, but we could. We putting up 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.959 borders on land that wasn't theirs to begin with. You're 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.920 putting up borders on stolen land, which is a mind boob. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.760 I'm not gonna say the cussword, but y'all know what 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:19.040 I'm thinking. It's really like very triggering and traumatizing and 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.280 annoying to me. White folks can come in here and 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.680 blend in and our folks stand out like sore thumbs, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.800 and we forget about it. So I would say to 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.120 the people who at home, you know they will make 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:36.520 a special exception for their girlfriend or their side piece, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.600 or their nanny or their cleaning lady. How about Milangya 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.800 or your first lady, right like all of these other people, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:44.320 you'll make. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.880 Except at the Einstein visa listen for some unknown talent. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.240 We have yet to discuss trying to figure out her 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.200 unknown talent. Where is that she was able to leap 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.920 frog over everybody. Here's that Ted talk and get this 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.200 Einstein visa listen. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.000 But they were fine with that. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:57.440 Listen. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:02.280 But from the very beginning, Congressman Thompson put out border principles, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.200 standards that we should be governing by legislation that we 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.960 should be pushing. It's not just visas for folks that 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:10.960 want to work in tech companies. You should care about 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.160 the people who need work permits, who are picking fruit 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.440 and repairing toilets and cleaning floors like we should be 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.720 humane in our approach to our border security, which is 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.040 why I'm so troubled by the direction that the Biden 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.400 administration is now taking. I will say it is also 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.400 immensely troubling, and I'm sure that part of his strategy 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.520 is including this to think that the Republican Party is 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:39.760 impeaching Secretary Mayorcis for not enforcing border policy. And on 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.240 top of that, Joe Biden has now said, Okay, fine, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.360 let's go with your plan, but they're not going to 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.560 go for it because Donald Trump ain't about to let 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.400 them go rogue and give Joe Biden this alleged win. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.680 I do want to pivot here, Andrew, and come back 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.640 to you. There was a Chicago City Council meeting on 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.920 Chicago being a sanctuary city, and an Alderman spoke up 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.960 in this meeting. I want us to roll that clip 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.720 because I think, again, your perspective on local policy here 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.240 is really important. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.200 The reason I have brought this with some of my 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.960 colleagues to the floor is not to eliminate Chicago as 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.160 a sanctuary city. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.640 But what it is is. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:23.000 To find some kind of compromise and threshold to stop 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:28.640 the bleeding that we're undertaking right now. When you look 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.520 at what the city is dealing with, we're spending when 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:38.000 we had twelve thousand migrants, we were spending thirty one 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:44.360 million dollars a month at that time. We have twenty 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:50.520 thousand migrants today, So what is the price tag on 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:55.320 that now? And we can't get solid answers to what 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:56.720 is costing us right now? 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.440 Y'all don't care what y'all trying to find. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:16:59.920 Y'all trying to find housing. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.920 For the for for for Venice, for for Venezuelans, for 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.280 the Latinos, for all that, y'all, y'all keep it sending 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.440 them over here when that needs to go back, y'all 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.280 one time, y'all sent ice there, Ice need to come after. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:16.240 There's prostitution. There's prostitution that's behind there's prostitution that's behind 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.480 all of these police districts. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.800 I love that Streeterville as prostitution right up the street. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.720 I mean, it's it's it's it's it's a it's. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:31.880 A disrespect, that's real. I don't like it. No, no, no, no, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.760 let me I hate it. All of us have to 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.040 not like it. But the truth is this is where 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.080 we create the way for Republicans to come in and 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.200 go after very discreet sets of voters. We talked about 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.480 this before. They don't need everybody, they don't even need 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.440 most of everybody. They just need a few And so 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.120 this is the kind of thing. We can't tell these 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.320 folks to disbelieve their lying eyes. Their lived experience is 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.840 gonna be what it is, but very quickly one. This 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:04.040 thing is based in a very racist and also separatists 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:12.120 otherising American tradition of the elite and corporate interests finding 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.240 and figuring out a way to keep us separate, divided, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.080 and conquered. When the union started to peep up during 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.080 the early beginnings of the industrial complex and say, listen, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.680 these were white men. We're dying here. We need work 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.840 hours that respect us, we need a weekend, we need 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.919 to pay that, they went and did that. What did 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.280 the union bosses do, They saytiated them as best they 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.440 could so they didn't have to kill them. Outside of 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.919 the mills where they were blocking the entrances of them 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.439 importing more cheap labor and to replace them, they blocked them. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.040 And then they came up with a strata system. What 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.280 they started giving these folks titles but doing the same 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.720 work on the floor, so that the new title people 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.639 who didn't even make more with the new title, they 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.719 still made the same amount that everybody else did, but 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.240 it created strata so that they could never come together 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.520 and do this thing as a as a as a unit. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.080 So this has been an intention from the very beginning, y'all. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.040 Divide and conquer is the name of the game, and 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.679 the writers of the rules are these corporate interests. But 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.960 as Angela and Tivity both said, the devil is a lie. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.919 But not only is the devil a lie, or this 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.719 is the devil's work, it is also a lie that 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.879 immigrants are not paying their fair share. But nobody's going 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:23.919 to believe that. As a fact, they pay more than 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.680 their fair share, therefore contribute more to the system than 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.160 they take from Hate me, love me, don't have an opinion, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.679 it's a fact. The other thing, the other rising, is 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.240 a way to divide. And this whole thing, y'all, goes 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.720 back to the very beginning, and it's divide and conquer. 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.919 So long as they keep us thinking that the enemy 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.480 is you and me, this and this, then we ain't 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.800 never paying attention to how much the corporate board made. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.879 I think that's such a I want to punctuate everything 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.240 Andrew just said, because I think that's such an important point. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.680 I also want to make the point that Angela spoke 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.399 about nine percent of Black Americans have a foreign born 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.600 parent that their parent was also an immigrant, and one 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.240 out of ten black people living in the United States 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.120 is considered an immigrant as well. So those are all 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.440 things to keep in mind. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.119 But y'all also hit on the fact that we cannot 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.720 ignore the racism that is steeped in our immigration policy. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.400 In Florida, we had wetfoot dry foot. If you were 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.760 wet foot, it meant you came on a boat from Cuba. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.560 If you were dryfoot, it meant you. And they would 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.600 let the boats that were coming from Cuba in and 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.040 onto shore, they'd become dryfood Haitian boats. They wouldn't let 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.720