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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we'll

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Speaker 3: be discussing some of this week's news stories with our

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Speaker 3: friend Clodagh Meni. Clodagh is an assistant producer, reporter and

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Speaker 3: an occasional host of Ireland's leading true crime podcast, Crime World.

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Speaker 3: There is a very interesting case coming out of Ireland

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Speaker 3: today involving a human hand falling from the sky, and

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Speaker 3: hopefully Clauda will be able to shed some light on

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Speaker 3: that for us. We'll also discuss Alec Baldwin and his

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Speaker 3: claim that he suffers from PTSD, a hostage situation in

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Speaker 3: shooting at a Pennsylvania hospital, and the dangers of heated

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Speaker 3: fragrances like wax melts and more. Hi Clodagh, We're so

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Speaker 3: happy to have you here today.

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Speaker 1: Hi guys, I'm so happy to be here. I finally

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Speaker 1: get to actually speak back to you when I'm listening

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. Every time I'm listening like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I should say this, or I should say I'd say

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Speaker 1: this if that was me on the podcast. Oh I

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Speaker 1: know about that. So I're happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I love when you send me new stories and we're

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Speaker 2: just talking about how ridiculous some of this stuff is

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Speaker 2: because it just some world we live in anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: like nothing surprises me anymore, especially the story. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to it a little bit about the hand and

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Speaker 2: the bird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really happy to see that was on

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Speaker 1: the list for today because I was some interesting backstory.

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Speaker 1: I'm not free as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we can't wait, we can't wait. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 3: started with the celebrity news, because Maria can't wait for

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So Alec Baldwin's new show premiered Aunt TILC on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: which we all know. I've talked a lot about him

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Speaker 2: but I feel like in the best interest of our audience,

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Speaker 2: of course I should watch the show.

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Speaker 3: And when this is like totally up your alley, it's

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Speaker 3: such trash, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Really not liking TLC nowadays. They're really going downhill. But

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Speaker 2: I saw the trailer that they were talking about the

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Speaker 2: rush shooting, which we've covered significant for significant amount of

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Speaker 2: time on here, and I went to a crime con

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Speaker 2: lecture about it, so I am interested in it. But

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Speaker 2: this first episode comes out, and you know, they're like

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Speaker 2: introducing their whole family and everything, and of course Hillary's involved,

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Speaker 2: and they touch on her accent situation. And for those

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Speaker 2: of you that don't know Alec Baldwin's wife, is this

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Speaker 2: like totally normal white woman from Boston that just was

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Speaker 2: role playing as a Spanish person for years ago.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about.

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Speaker 2: Thome Fen when she couldn't say cucumber on like the

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Speaker 2: Today Show or whatever she was on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was cutting a cue cumber. For those of

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Speaker 3: you that don't know this, I'm sure that there can't

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Speaker 3: was preparing food on the Today Show and she said,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna grab this. It's how you say a cucumber.

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Speaker 3: And she her her primary English or her primary language

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Speaker 3: is English, so there's no reason that she can't recall

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Speaker 2: It's just so weird because her excuse for all of

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Speaker 3: Out of accents.

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Speaker 2: But I think most bilingual people are arguing that that

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you would go more, you dip more

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty well, well.

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Speaker 3: Her mom, it's not like her mother is Spanish and

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Speaker 2: Well, my biggest thing is her name is Hillary, Like

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Speaker 2: that's what she was born as. So how did she

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Speaker 1: Of her name?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, talk about this story because I

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Speaker 3: So with Russ, Yeah, like why are they in the

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Speaker 3: news this week besides the show? Well, they're on the show,

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Speaker 3: Alec Baldwin was diagnosed with PTSD from the shooting.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, like you, what are your what

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Speaker 1: I don't know I think it's like, if that was

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, what do you think? Do you

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Speaker 1: think it was an accident? It was not accident. It

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Speaker 1: hasn't really been a massive news story here in Ireland.

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Speaker 1: We've kind of dipped in and out of it when

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Speaker 1: I forgot that happened. But I've never really formed an

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think he did. I think it

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Speaker 3: definitely don't think that he did, and I think he

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Speaker 3: has PTSD. But I also think that he's a narcissist

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Speaker 3: big time. Why would you be starting a reality TV

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Speaker 3: serious if you're really distraught about it, right, yeah's real weird.

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Speaker 2: I think my biggest thing was I definitely, I definitely

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Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't want to recognize.

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Speaker 1: And then when I.

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Speaker 2: Went to the lecture at crime con Core TV had

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Speaker 2: understood that from a firearms perspective and having them having

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Speaker 3: A produce sir.

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Speaker 2: He has some responsibility behind the scenes. He was made

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think in some regard he needs to be held

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Speaker 1: Hopefully No, No, I really hope not so.

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Speaker 3: PTSD, let's talk about that a little bit. I talk

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Speaker 3: because first responders firefighters deal with a fair amount of

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Speaker 3: Have you guys heard that. I know you guys are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard it just being referred to as that,

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Speaker 3: But interestingly enough, more women get it. Well, not that

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Speaker 3: different things that can happen that are symptomatic of having PTSD,

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Speaker 3: and which is interesting because I'm going to go over

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Speaker 3: So the first one is avoidance. People who have PTSD

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Speaker 3: think that that's interesting that I don't know, like, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you and I in particular,

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Speaker 3: I just I just don't care. Well, I think that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is a strange thing to do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: seen that trailer, But like I wonder if they're going

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Speaker 1: said they started filming the TV show right before the

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Speaker 2: Remember they were only in court for a week or

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Speaker 2: two and then it went away magically. Yeah, the prosecution did.

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Speaker 2: sure they are, because I'm sure that's intent. That's the

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Speaker 2: intention of the show is to go through what he's experiencing.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, you know what if.

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Speaker 2: This went the other way and he ended up going

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Speaker 3: This entire show.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was just thinking as well, Like what

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Speaker 1: would they do with that, Like would be interesting to

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Speaker 1: Were they going to kind of turn it into a

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Speaker 1: documentary style thing? About him. Yeah, it's weird.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what's weird to me, because if one of

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Speaker 3: he did that crazy Remember he did that interview where

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Speaker 2: It is weird, Like you just don't have to do interviews.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's the bird drops a hand from the sky,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's horrible. Imagine like being that young and finding

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Speaker 1: There's no, it's like that's the way everyone's I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: No, there was one of those, and never remember. We

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Speaker 2: That's great, this is awesome. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, this is this.

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Speaker 3: So the mom is putting out a warning saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: put them upward, which you were. You really have to

440
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Speaker 3: be careful with that and teach children. I like, one

441
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Speaker 3: part of me is just like, this is awesome that

442
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Speaker 3: a ten year old was making a grilled cheese. I

443
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Speaker 3: love that. Teach kids how to cook early. It's great,

444
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Speaker 3: But you have to teach everyone knife safety and it's

445
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Speaker 3: probably Honestly, the mom was probably the one that loaded

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Speaker 3: the dishwasher, although a child could have too, But I'm

447
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Speaker 3: kind of anti putting the knives in the dishwasher anyway,

448
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Speaker 3: Because I had a story once one of my followers

449
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Speaker 3: had submitted me a case of a similar thing that

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Speaker 3: a knife had fell out of the dishwasher and like

451
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Speaker 3: stabbed her right in the foot. It was stuck in

452
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Speaker 3: her foot and she had to go to the hospital

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Speaker 3: with it, and that always freaked me out.

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Speaker 2: I always wonder about this because even though we cover

455
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Speaker 2: stories like this, and I know I'm such a klutz,

456
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Speaker 2: like I always wear like my sandals when I'm cooking,

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Speaker 2: or just know she was at all, and I'm like,

458
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Speaker 2: this is going to be a major situation one day. Well,

459
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Speaker 2: it's important to note that he's okay, but just barely.

460
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Speaker 2: It was only a millimeter different. So what do they

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Speaker 2: do with the hospital when kids come in like this.

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Speaker 3: Well, the imaging is really crazy because they brought him

463
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Speaker 3: in with the knife still in his back and it

464
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Speaker 3: just missed his spinal cord by millimeters, they said, which

465
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Speaker 3: could have paralyzed him. Really, so they have to take

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Speaker 3: it out very carefully. Sometimes they'll do it under image guided.

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Speaker 3: They'll use some obviously, like they can't use an MRI

468
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Speaker 3: machine because of the metal, but they'll use they'll do

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Speaker 3: an image guided removal of it to make sure that

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Speaker 3: they're not hitting vital structures. Because you have to think

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Speaker 3: about if a knife is inside of a person. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it could be either right near a blood vessel or

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Speaker 3: poking a blood vessel, and don't you definitely don't want

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Speaker 3: to pull it out of a blood vessel if it's

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Speaker 3: plugging it up. So they have to really be careful

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Speaker 3: when they're pulling something like that out, which is why

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Speaker 3: when ems arrived and saw him in that condition, they

478
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Speaker 3: just bring him to the hospital with the knife still

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Speaker 3: in place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really quick thinking because I'd be straight

481
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Speaker 1: away like I think I would, right, you just go

482
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Speaker 1: to remove us and like those like really smart of

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Speaker 1: the mother to leave it in there.

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Speaker 2: No, it really was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is like it was real. It looks like

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Speaker 3: to me like yeah, like it looks like it got

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Speaker 3: stuck in the bone or something like it's deep in there.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a big knife too. If you see the imaging,

489
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Speaker 3: it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well there's a heartwarming element to the story too, because

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Speaker 2: apparently when he was in the hospital they were doing

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Speaker 2: these creative workshops and he learned that he had a

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Speaker 2: talent to do marionette puppeting.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so cute.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he would have never known such a random thing

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Speaker 4: that of course, he would have never known because who

497
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Speaker 4: was interacting with puppets in the while true, at least

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Speaker 4: there is a good outcome.

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Speaker 1: To this, oh man.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's next? Oh yeah, the true crime?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: So this this wasn't very far from us, right, like

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Speaker 2: only a couple hours. Yeah, it was in York, Pennsylvania County,

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Speaker 2: I think York County. So Saturday morning, this guy went

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Speaker 2: into a Pennsylvania hospital with a semi automatic pistol and

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Speaker 2: zip tize. So he headed to the ICU where one

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Speaker 2: of his loved ones had just been treated and ended

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Speaker 2: up dying. So not only did he shoot a couple

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Speaker 2: of people in the unit, as I guess his way

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Speaker 2: of not taking the death of his loved one well,

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Speaker 2: but he also took a couple of the hospital staff

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Speaker 2: members hostage.

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Speaker 3: This is so scary if you work in a hospital, really,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, it seems like the guy was one of

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Speaker 3: they just keep saying in the article his loved one died.

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Speaker 3: I heard today from one of my friends that it

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Speaker 3: possibly could have been a fiance or something, but apparently

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Speaker 3: this person had a terminal illness and he couldn't accept

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Speaker 3: it and he believed that the people at the ICU

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Speaker 3: were responsible for this person's death.

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Speaker 2: It's just really horrible. You know, you want to think

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Speaker 2: a hospital is a really safe place, and then I guess,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'd ever think of doctors and nurses being targeted,

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Speaker 2: because we often talk about how judges and lawyers are,

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Speaker 2: you know, targeted quite often, But you don't think about

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Speaker 2: someone dying and their loved one trying to come back

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Speaker 2: and kill you because of something like this.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 3: What's scary is that they took this guy went in

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Speaker 3: and took these people hostage. He went in at ten

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Speaker 3: thirty in the morning and he wasn't killed until about

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Speaker 3: eleven fifteen, So that was almost forty minutes of hell

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Speaker 3: for these people. He went in and he zip tied

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Speaker 3: up a nurse, He shot a doctor, he shot a nurse,

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Speaker 3: he killed a police officer. The police tried to go

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Speaker 3: back and help, and he was holding people hostage, shooting

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Speaker 3: guns at the police and everything, and they weren't able to.

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Speaker 3: When they encountered them again, they shot and killed them.

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Speaker 3: Thank God. Imagine being a patient in the hospital while

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Speaker 3: this was going on and you're in a bed, especially

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Speaker 3: especially if you're in the ICU, you're really really sick,

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Speaker 3: and think about hearing this on the news and your

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Speaker 3: family being there or patients, I mean ten thirty in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon, there were probably families there visiting. Just such

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Speaker 3: a scary situation.

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Speaker 1: So traumatizing as well for them, like not only to obviously,

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Speaker 1: like you said, if you're in ICU, it's something wrong

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Speaker 1: and your family here is by, you know, surely they're

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Speaker 1: going to be panicking about you as well, and even

586
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Speaker 1: comite the other side of that. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: pretty traumatic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, First, before I guess they released the motive and

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Speaker 2: the connection to the of one being there, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know if it was going to turn into some like

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Speaker 2: you know Luigi situation where like something happened and he

592
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Speaker 2: was protesting against the hospital.

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Speaker 3: So when I first.

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Speaker 2: Saw the story broke, that was always a concerning element

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Speaker 2: because you know, we're having this big argument of do

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Speaker 2: you take the law in your hands because you don't

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Speaker 2: like how something's going down basically, But I guess this

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Speaker 2: is just, you know, a component of having a loved

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Speaker 2: one that's ill that people don't understand, and not everybody

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Speaker 2: appreciates the effort of the hospital staff.

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Speaker 3: Cloda probably has no idea what you're even talking about

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Speaker 3: because they don't even have You guys don't even have

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Speaker 3: health insurance right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we we have what's called the HSE, which is

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Speaker 1: basically free. It's very very cheap.

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Speaker 3: It's cheap. I just want to know so we could

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Speaker 3: hear it, because when I tell you what we pay,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe it.

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Speaker 1: So like, you can't have private health insurance if you

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Speaker 1: want to go to a private hospital or like you know,

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Speaker 1: get up the wait and lists to see consultants and

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Speaker 1: things like that and get private rooms or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: like it, I think it's like, well, for I know

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Speaker 1: in America that like you have to pay for every

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Speaker 1: single thing to do with childbirth, like you skin to

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Speaker 1: skin contact, fifty dollars please, all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But for here, it's basically free maternity care all through

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Speaker 1: your pregnancy, giving birth, all that sort of stuff absolutely free.

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Speaker 1: Like a stay in hospital is like eighty euro a

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Speaker 1: night and that's capped at like ten nights in a year,

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Speaker 1: so you know, if you spent eleven nights, you only

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Speaker 1: pay for the ten and that includes like MRIs X rays,

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Speaker 1: blood tests, everything is sort of included. And the same

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Speaker 1: like if I go to the doctor and he gives

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Speaker 1: me a note to go to the an E and

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Speaker 1: I have to get let an MRI or whatever it

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Speaker 1: might be, like all of that is covered free as

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Speaker 1: part of you know, well it's seventy quid or whatever

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Speaker 1: to go to the doctor, but that letter gets me

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Speaker 1: whatever I might need at the hospital for free, and

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Speaker 1: you do not pay per month for that. No, so

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Speaker 1: if you want to have private health insurance. You can

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Speaker 1: some people get it because you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: you kind of get into hospit into private hospitals. So

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Speaker 1: you go to a hospital, get a private room, things

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Speaker 1: like that. You might get seen quicker by consultants, and

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Speaker 1: that can be like maybe two hundred three hundred euro

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Speaker 1: own month, depending on how many people in the family

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Speaker 1: you want on the plan or how like you know,

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Speaker 1: thorough and how much coverage you have in the plan.

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Speaker 1: How much does it do you guys have to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my health insurance for me and my husband

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Speaker 2: is nine hundred dollars a month and then what and

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Speaker 2: then it barely covers anything. I just got an MRI

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Speaker 2: and it was another nine hundred dollars. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: they only covered a percentage of it.

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Speaker 3: See mine is my husband pays through his work, so

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Speaker 3: he pays almost two thousand dollars and a month and

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Speaker 3: his employer pays the difference. So it's wregage what I know,

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Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's outrageous, I know. And then on top

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Speaker 3: of that, I mean, ours is pretty good though, because

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Speaker 3: once we go like when we go pick up medicine,

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Speaker 3: it's only five dollars and the doctor's appointment might be

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Speaker 3: ten dollars or something, which is cheap for us, so

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Speaker 3: mostly everything's covered. But yeah, that's so, but you've so

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Speaker 3: you've heard about this. Did you even hear about this

657
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Speaker 3: case with this guy that killed the healthcare executive?

658
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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, So that was a very interesting case to us.

659
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: But like, like it's interesting that you guys even like

660
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: like care about it. You know, I think I think

661
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: we're so fucked up over here.

662
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just because we know how expensive things are

663
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: in the States, Like even if you're here and you're unwelfare,

664
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: like you get you get a medical card which covers

665
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: everything for free, or a doctor's visit card, and then

666
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: like our prescriptions and stuff are like capped per month

667
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: for the family and things like that, so there is

668
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: things that make it cheaper. Like I don't personally buy

669
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: insurance because I'm like, ah, there's no point, It's just

670
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: cheaper for me to actually just go public and pay

671
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: when I need it. But when Luigi, like when that

672
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: story broke, like it was just so interesting when we

673
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: found out the motive behind it, because obviously I was

674
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: actually in the States when he was caught, and I

675
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: remember when I was there. I was like, oh, maybe

676
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: he's like around here somewhere, like you'd never know. But no,

677
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: we've been following that story at least I have with

678
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: the great and enthusiasm. I'm very interested to see how

679
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: his trial plays out, and I've been thoroughly enjoying the memes.

680
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Well, I really don't think in America they can get

681
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: a jury that's gonna be fair, because every single person

682
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: in some way has been affected by the healthcare system here.

683
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Doude, let me tell you so, my little my youngest

684
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: has medical issues. She has a chronic bone disease, and

685
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: her doctor called me yesterday and said they want to

686
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: put her on a new medicine. She's this doctor told

687
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: me that, She's like, it's gonna take a couple of

688
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: weeks to see if the insurance will approve it, So

689
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: just keep taking the other one until you get approved.

690
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: Like I just have to wait weeks for them to

691
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: even tell me if if I could get it or not.

692
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: It's so outrageous, that is, like, it is just insane

693
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: how it works in the States. Like, obviously I don't

694
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: have first sound experience saving there, but from what I've

695
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: seen on television and stuff, like that. People get jobs

696
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: purely so they'll have you know, insurance, which is just

697
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, should be a basic human right that people

698
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: have access to, or not even insurance, but medical care.

699
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just bizarre.

700
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: I actually only went to college to get health insurance

701
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: for my kid. That's why I started college because I

702
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be covered under my mom because you

703
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 3: get kicked well, now you get kicked off when you're

704
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: what twenty six, yeah, twenty six, But when I was,

705
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: when I was a teenager, it was you got kicked

706
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: off when you were eighteen. That's what before that law

707
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: came into place, and I thought, okay, well what I

708
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: have to get health insurance for me and my kid.

709
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: That's the only how am I going to get a job.

710
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: I need to get a job that has health insurance.

711
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: Like that's a that was a motivating factor for me.

712
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy, that is yeah, that is crazy. Okay, let's

713
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: get onto some medical news.

714
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: In India, this twenty six year old man was experiencing

715
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: symptoms including a persistent cough, sudden weight loss, and insomnia. Initially,

716
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: he was diagnosed with a lung infection, but doctors did

717
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: more testing and what did they find.

718
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: So they did a CT scan and they saw that

719
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: he had this. They said they had a lower lung infection,

720
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: and at some point they discovered that there was a

721
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: lump like area in the lung. So I don't know

722
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: what forced them to do surgery because it looks like

723
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: that might not have been seen until after they did

724
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 3: some kind of surgery. But regardless, he had some kind

725
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: of a lump and when they cut it open, they

726
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: found what appeared to be a plastic pen cap. So

727
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: what's wild about this is they asked his family if

728
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: he has followed anything, and his brother said, I don't

729
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: think recently, but he's followed a pen cap like twenty

730
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: years ago when he was five.

731
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Speaker 1: He's twenty six now.

732
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they brought him to the hospital. The parents

733
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: brought him to the hospital and they couldn't find anything

734
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: in his stomach. And they said, Okay, well, I guess

735
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: I guess he passed it. Can't we can't find it.

736
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean, just how how does it stay in that

737
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: long without not showing any problems?

738
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: For twenty years he's had the guys had chronic cough,

739
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: unexplained weight loss in some he's been having symptoms the

740
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: chronic cough is is definitely for sure. So it's just

741
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: like any other thing that we talk about, IUDs or

742
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: any kind of foreign object that you put in breast implants,

743
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: like your body is just like I don't like this,

744
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: and I'm going to build a wall around it. Some

745
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: people can have foreign objects embedded in their body forever

746
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: and never have problems, and then other people have problems.

747
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: Obviously you're going to have problems if you have a

748
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: foreign object in your lung for all that time. So

749
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: he probably formed what's called a granuloma around this thing,

750
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: this pen cap, and it's you know, the body's way

751
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: of walling off this thing that doesn't it doesn't want

752
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: to be there, you know. So they were able to

753
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: take it out and hopefully the guy probably won't have

754
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: any issues anymore.

755
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: So I gues he, yes, I'm confused, like how did

756
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: he was it in his lung? Or yes, I guess

757
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: that's what's confused me.

758
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: It went it okay. So when they thought he swallowed

759
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: this this pen cap, he didn't swallow it. He aspirated it.

760
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: It went inside of his lung at the time, so

761
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: it got stuck so far deep inside of his lung

762
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: that's what that's what happened. It never was in his

763
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: GI track which listen from a perspective, a medical perspective.

764
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: If you know that a child ingested a foreign body

765
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: and you don't see it, you need to start thinking

766
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: about things like that. I'm not sure why they didn't

767
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: do any additional work up. I mean it was twenty

768
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: years ago. I don't know what hospital. This wasn't in America, right, No,

769
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: it was in India. Yeah, so I don't know what

770
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: their protocols are. I would think though that in twenty

771
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: twenty five, if you brought in a kid and said

772
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: they swallowed this and they didn't see it, they would

773
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: do they're testing to see if it was somewhere else,

774
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: because just doing something like an X ray that something

775
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: like that might not show up because it's not metal.

776
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: It might it might show up. I'm just not really sure.

777
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: But but yeah, this is this is kind of a

778
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: crazy case. It's a cool story now, but imagine having

779
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: a cough you're you're like your entire adult life, and

780
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: then just be finding out that this is what it

781
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: was from.

782
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever breathed like food in by accident?

783
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: It's the worst feeling.

784
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Ever, Yeah, can you imagine an entire pen cap? I

785
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: was actually gonna ask, because you definitely know this is

786
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: this like a myth, like you know, like one of

787
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: those Marilon Manson took out his raves myth? Or do

788
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: pancaffs have like little holes on the tops to stop

789
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: you from like if you breathe it in to keep

790
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: you breathing.

791
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: You know that that's an issue I've never I've never

792
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: heard of that, but that actually makes sense.

793
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if any pen cap is like I'm just looking

794
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: right at mine, they've all got like a little in

795
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: the top, and I was told it was just to

796
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: make sure that you can still breathe if you accidently.

797
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: So it's probably possible because so many people put them

798
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: in their mouth, and this is not the first person

799
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: that's in how a pen cap, So there might be

800
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: there might have been a lawsuit at some point. But

801
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: you have to have the cap on because it keeps

802
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: the ink dry, So that might have been the compromise

803
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: that these companies came to. But you are right. I'm

804
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: thinking about the different types of pens that I use,

805
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: and they all have some form of a small little

806
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: hole at the top of them. So it probably you're

807
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: probably right with that.

808
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Philly? Yes? Have you been

809
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: to the moodor Museum?

810
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: No? So we have this like medical oddities museum here,

811
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: but they have drawers of stuff people swallowed, and most

812
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: notably it's like, you know, embroidery needles, hair pins.

813
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: And bobby pins are and I put a bobby pin

814
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: in my mouth every single day and I think about

815
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: it like I'm extra careful because I put it in

816
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: to split it with my teeth.

817
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: Of course, that's fascinating though.

818
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: It's cool. Yeah, they just have these drawers that you

819
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: pull out and you could look at all of them,

820
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: and a lot of them are from from one hundred

821
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: years ago. So it's just cool that you could see that.

822
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: Like people don't use hair pins anymore like that, you know,

823
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: So it's really it's cool.

824
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: I hope stories like this help our listeners double you know,

825
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: triple think when they're doing something, because I'm always like

826
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: sticking embroidery needles in my mouth and I'm like, in particular,

827
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago when my husband was driving

828
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, if he stops quickly, this

829
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: is gonna be a serious problem.

830
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: So I really have to get out of it.

831
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: I keep saying it so often. I have to get

832
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: out of the habit of doing it. But it's difficult.

833
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about our last story. So a

834
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: new study has come out to say that scented wax

835
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: melts can cause the same level of pollution in the

836
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: air as diesel engines.

837
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Speaker 3: Do you guys, So what's the culture over there in Ireland? Like,

838
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: are you using candles a lot to make your hairuse

839
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: smell good?

840
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a big candle over tea lights, scented candles,

841
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: wax melts, everything all the time everywhere, big fun of them.

842
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: Well you're gonna die now, grace. So's it seems like

843
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: that they created these wax melts because they thought originally

844
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: it would be less pollution than burning a flame, a

845
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 3: typical flame candle. But in the process they put more

846
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: fragrance to make it stronger when you melt them, and

847
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: then that is putting these particles into the air that

848
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: are not Apparently they're thinking that they're not safe for

849
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: us to be breathing in. They don't have exact studies,

850
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: but some other things that put off particles similar to

851
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: this have caused cardiac issues and respiratory issues, so they're

852
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: going to be doing more studies on it, saying that

853
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: even after something as little as twenty minutes of exposure

854
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: can cause a person to be having problems. And god,

855
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: it's so scary because this isn't just for the wax melts.

856
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: But it's like those plugin You ever see those things,

857
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: those plug in oil things that what do they call

858
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: that batho and body Works or whatever or Yankee has them.

859
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just scented. Can They're just like sented.

860
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're also saying, like the aromatherapy oils, like

861
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: all of that stuff.

862
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: This sucks because I mean.

863
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: This just sucks, you know what. This is why I

864
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: chose the story this week because this sucks.

865
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: When you picked the.

866
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: Stories yesterday and I first started reading it, I was like,

867
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: on Sunday alone, I know, I burnt a candle for

868
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: probably eleven hours straight and I was sitting in the

869
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: room most of the time. So like this, this is great.

870
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I've a sentence candle on my desk burning at all

871
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: times or sometimes too. Yeah, I just love my candles.

872
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: That's really sad. Night. My mom doesn't burn candles because

873
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: She's like, no, the's really bad for your lungs. And

874
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you're crazy, No they're not, it's not.

875
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: But now I can see that she was right.

876
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: Yes, the worst to tell your mom that, are right?

877
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Right?

878
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: I know?

879
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean i'd say.

880
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: No, it really is like, first of all, can we

881
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: not have anything like? You know, nothing sets the mood

882
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: better than a nice candle. You wake up, it's a

883
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: nice sunny, seventy degree day. You're gonna light a nice

884
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: anthropology candle and just like a really good day. I

885
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: don't know, this really sucks. I hope, you know. I

886
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: guess it's too late for me because I'm addicted, so

887
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going back.

888
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: At this point.

889
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: But I don't know. After reading this article, I feel

890
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: like candles are this are are the safer alternative at

891
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: this point. I just bought a humidifier and it came

892
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: with these aromatherapy drops that you could put in it,

893
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 3: and you put it on at night and you're like, oh,

894
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: this is like a SPA experience. It smells so good,

895
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, yeah, cool, that's great. It's things

896
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: like that.

897
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: So this article was saying that the scented wax melts

898
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: were marketed as offering less.

899
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Pollution than candles.

900
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: But do they have any.

901
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: Responsibility now because this is deemed false average, Yes.

902
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: This is like every single thing that ever occurred in

903
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: the world. Like I'll give you two examples. Number one,

904
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: when I was a little kid, we used to use

905
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: paper bags at the grocery store all the time, and

906
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, they were like, this isn't good.

907
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna start using plastic bags. They're better. We don't

908
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: want to cut down so many trees for these bags.

909
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: And now look where we're at with Okay, example number

910
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: two percocets and opioids. I mean, like, let's just go

911
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: down the list of things that were supposed to be

912
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: good that that are Oh, now they're not good. They

913
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: were this alternative. Yeah, what else? Like well, cloda.

914
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: We live in New Jersey, and a couple of years

915
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: ago they put this ban on plastic bags, so like

916
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: if you go to the store or anything, you have

917
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: to bring your own bags or you have to buy

918
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: these reusable ones. And then now that it's been in

919
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: effect for a couple of years, studies have come out

920
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: that the new reusable bags are three times worse for

921
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: the environment than the plastic bags. And you know, there's

922
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: like issues with the manufacturing overseas and everything like that,

923
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: so like not only are they bad for the environment,

924
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: but they cost more money. They're causing all these other issues.

925
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 2: So now I heard they're reversing the band soon.

926
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: See it's rare to actually go into a shop here

927
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: and get a plastic bag. I think we might have

928
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: been one of the first countries to introduce like a levy,

929
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: so you have to pay like fifteen cent for a

930
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: plastic bag or bring your owns. Then people started getting

931
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 1: reusual bags. But now they've phased out plastic bags. It's

932
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: only if you go to like a shop in the

933
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, but they don't have you know, the

934
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: paper bags. But it's mostly plastic here too. But I

935
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: do you know what the annoying thing is, every time

936
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I go somewhere, I'm like, I forgot my bags and

937
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: I have to buy another reusable bags, and I have

938
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: just so many. It's just every time it happens, forget

939
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: to bring them so now, which doesn't make sense because

940
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: then you have to rebuy.

941
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: A thicker plastic right. Yes, when I was in California,

942
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: they would charge the ten or fifteen cents for the bag,

943
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I'll buy it, and then you know,

944
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: I have it, and I do reuse them. I will

945
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: bring my lunch in them. I use them as trash

946
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: bags things like that. But then you're buying this totally

947
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: useless bag. Half of them ripped after the first sheets.

948
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: So this is why they're causing such more damage.

949
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: And you feel bad if you're using it as a

950
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: bit buy because you're like, oh no, it's actually a

951
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: bit decent. I could use this for something else.

952
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like I don't. I You're right, I feel

953
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: guilty using one of those bags just to get litter,

954
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: put the cat litter in. You know, I'm like, this

955
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: is too good for cat litter. But then I seriously

956
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: have in my basement. They should they should have a

957
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: program where you can bring them back, maybe because I

958
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: have hundreds of them. It's outrageous, No.

959
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: It really is. And then off of your point of

960
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: like oxy cotton then stuff. You know that when we

961
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 2: were talking about a couple of weeks ago, that new

962
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: drug they've made that they claim is non addictive, Like

963
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 2: that's what they also said about OxyS. So let's wait

964
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: a couple of years.

965
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: This is my fear with drugs like ozempic and stuff

966
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: like that, because you just you just here about like,

967
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: all there's this new thing that's supposed to be that

968
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: it's supposed to solve all our problems, and we know

969
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: how that goes down. No, totally every single time. All right, Clota,

970
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: So what are you got going on over there? Like,

971
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: tell us, tell us, tell us what's going on in

972
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: Ireland that we need to know about?

973
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: Well, body parts everywhere all the time, you know, just

974
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: a bit of everything. I I I don't know. Sorry,

975
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't really have any more news on that front.

976
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: And No, every time something bizarre happens that I'm like,

977
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: oh that's very mother nose death, I send it to Maria.

978
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: So you guys are kept well informed.

979
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: Did you guys cover the Connorm Orgregor case?

980
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

981
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: So I covered the trial so I was there in

982
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: the courtroom every day.

983
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that was like a huge, That was a huge.

984
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: Does he live there?

985
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: Does he lives here? He lives in Cldair, which is

986
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: another county over and he was in court every day.

987
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I think he's back in court next week. There's you know,

988
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: he had to give a sworn AFFI David to the

989
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: judge to say that he had gotten rid of the

990
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: CCTV footage that was as part of the trial because

991
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: he was threatening to or at least one of his

992
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: business colleagues was threatening to use the CCTV footage as

993
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: part of a promotion in Italy for his drinks deal

994
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: for his drinks brand. Sorry, so he might have to

995
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: come before the judge and swear and tell him exactly

996
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: what he did with it, because you know, the judge

997
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: said that his explanation for what he did with the

998
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: copies of the CCTV wasn't sort of robust enough. So

999
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: it looks like he's going back to court for that,

1000
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: and of course he is. You know, there's been numerous

1001
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: accusations made in the States, and they seem to be

1002
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of settled and dropped. But there is one that

1003
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: seems to be sticking, right the one in New York,

1004
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: the Wall Street banker.

1005
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: I yeah, I think so.

1006
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: I haven't been keeping tabs as much on those cases,

1007
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: but I know there's there's definitely other incidents than the

1008
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: one he was just on trial for.

1009
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1010
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: Wait, so this is like sexual assault cases you're talking about? Yeah,

1011
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: so there's more than the one that you just did.

1012
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1013
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: Remember I was telling you, like when we were just

1014
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: covering the other one, that I didn't even know about

1015
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: that case because I was I thought it was another

1016
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 2: one that just happened more recently.

1017
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: So, oh, that was the one that happened in Miami

1018
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: or something, or where it happened.

1019
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think what wasn't Miami. I think I

1020
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: know the woman, The woman who's suing him was a

1021
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Wall Street banker, I believe, or at least she worked

1022
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: in some sort of high part exac in Wall Streets,

1023
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: and I think that was in Miami. I think he

1024
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: assaulted or was allegedly assaulted the mascot for the team.

1025
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mascat.

1026
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: And then sorry, I'm unprepared on this topic, but I

1027
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: feel was the one that you guys just covered. Was

1028
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: that the one where he went in the bathroom with

1029
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: the woman was.

1030
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: The same.

1031
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Miami one. The Miami one. The one

1032
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: that was in Dublin was uh, it was an incident

1033
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: that happened in a hotel in Dublin.

1034
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I knew about the one at the

1035
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: basketball game and what happened there. But isn't he wasn't

1036
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: he alleged to have assaulted two women there, the mascot

1037
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: and then another woman in the bathroom.

1038
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's the that's the Wall Street woman.

1039
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so yeah there.

1040
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: I mean this, he's so outrageous that we're talking about this.

1041
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: That's like everybody's just kind of like, oh, yeah, we

1042
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: assault he assaulted this one and assaulted this one. Like

1043
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: why is this still happening?

1044
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean these are people that have spoken out too,

1045
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: So I mean I doubt it happens one time and

1046
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: then it goes to trial. I don't want to like

1047
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: say anything for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if

1048
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: even more people.

1049
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Came forward over time.

1050
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: I mean you have to think about it, like he

1051
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: must have this is my opinion. He must have set

1052
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: in some capacity. I mean, have you seen the fights

1053
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: he's gotten into.

1054
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: It's just not ct oh chronic traumatic encephalopathy. It's due

1055
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: to multiple blows to the head that causes your brain

1056
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: shrinkage over time, and.

1057
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: It's a it's a big problem over here because it

1058
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: happens to a lot of football.

1059
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: Is this like the Phineas Gage sort of thing where

1060
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: he you know, was hitting the head with the bot

1061
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: and his brain chemistry changed because of the injury, like

1062
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: you become more aggressive and stuff like that.

1063
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: I thought, Right, So we cover it a lot over

1064
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: here because it happens in a lot of football players.

1065
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: We just had a case last week talking about a

1066
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: professional hockey player that had been diagnosed with it after

1067
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: he died, and there was a wrestler that killed his

1068
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: whole family and hot. Yeah, so it's it's a pretty

1069
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: big topic over here, I guess because just sports. I

1070
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: don't know, you guys probably have it in regular football

1071
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about football, I mean American football, but

1072
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 2: you guys probably have it in some capacity with soccer

1073
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: as we go.

1074
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know, probably soccer, rugby. I don't know

1075
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: if you have rugby in the US, which I don't

1076
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: really know any of the right sports, but to me,

1077
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: rugby looks like American football kind of similar.

1078
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And I have no idea, like I just

1079
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: know that they like look cute in their you know, yes.

1080
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: Like we have on our American football team a guy

1081
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: that used to play rugby. I believe in New Zealand

1082
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: there's they like drafted him because it's similar enough.

1083
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: That he was able to switch over. Do you think

1084
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: there are helmets in American football?

1085
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: They do, but it's you know, it's barely protection and

1086
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: you have like a two hundred and fifty pound man

1087
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: tackling another one to the ground and it's just aggressive.

1088
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be surprised if in some capacity these

1089
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: MMA fighters have huge issues.

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Speaker 3: With it too. They do. It started actually, this used

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Speaker 3: to be called dementia pugilistica, which is named after boxers.

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Speaker 3: So it was called punk punch drunk. Have you ever

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Speaker 3: heard of that? Yeah, so it originated with boxers back

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Speaker 3: in the day. That's when they first started seeing these

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Speaker 3: changes in the brain and people that were getting repetitive

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Speaker 3: head trauma. And so he's a candidate for sure, but like,

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Speaker 3: who cares if he has that or not, Like, it

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Speaker 3: still doesn't excuse him from I'm not saying you can't

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Speaker 3: just go rape and everyone like, you just can't do

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Speaker 3: that regardless. It's just about to quote I was I

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Speaker 3: was trying to quote Antoine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: No, it's certainly not an excuse, but you have to think,

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Speaker 2: you know, these these incidents, let's say, are more common

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Speaker 2: in people that are in these professions or constantly getting

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Speaker 2: hit in the head. So I don't know all right,

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Speaker 2: well to tell everybody, tell everybody where they can find you.

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Speaker 1: So I am the assistant producer of Crime World podcast.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I host episodes, sometimes a report like I said,

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Speaker 1: I reported on the economic Gregor trial. We usually cover

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Speaker 1: mostly Irish crime, lots of ganglang crime here in Ireland

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Speaker 1: is believed or not. And yeah, I'm on social media

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Speaker 1: Akoda dot Meni on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, thank you so much for coming on this.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, we hope to see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 3: my training is as a pathologists assistant. I have a

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Speaker 3: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 3: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 3: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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Speaker 3: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

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Speaker 3: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

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Speaker 3: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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Speaker 3: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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Speaker 3: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed

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Speaker 3: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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Speaker 3: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having

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Speaker 3: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a

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Speaker 2: Thanks