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Speaker 1: they fight for that real estate. Right. But one thing

425
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Speaker 1: that Rodgers did this offseason, which I got down on him,

426
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: he became a big time drama queen. Now, I'm sure

427
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: there were things that happened that we don't totally know

428
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: about with him and Gudikins, with just him, it's it's

429
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: a weird organization, right. I saw a story right before

430
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: I hopped on here that they're selling three hundred shares

431
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: of packer stock for three hundred dollars. Uh a share.

432
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a mathematician here, but it should be a

433
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: lot of money. So if you sell three hundred thousand

434
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: stocks for three hundred dollars, that's gonna raise ninety million dollars.

435
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: So it's just an easy way for the packers to

436
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: raise ninety million dollars, right, And who knows that ninety

437
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: million dollars might immediately go to Aaron Rodgers, which if

438
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: they were smart, that's what they would do. The crazy

439
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: thing is if you buy Packers stock, it's not like

440
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: you get any say in anything that goes on, but

441
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: you just get to say, for three own stock. It's

442
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: just an easy way to raise capital. Pretty genius. But

443
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't get to like answer or bitch and moan

444
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: to Robert Craft, to a Jerry Jones, to a John Marr,

445
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: to a Rooney, to an actual human being. Right, he

446
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: Murphy is in charge of the organization, but he doesn't

447
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: own anything. It's kind of like getting yelled at by management.

448
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: You're like, well, your middle management, like who are you?

449
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: You are employed by the stockholders. You don't own. This

450
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: is not your money. You're you're not in control. At

451
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: least when Jerry or Cronky or whoever gets mad at you,

452
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: or you're having a serious conversation, you know that that

453
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: guy signs the check, It's like, Murphy, You're not signing

454
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: the check. This is your cash. So there's stuff that

455
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: we will probably never quite know that created to some

456
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: of the animosity in the off season. Though, just the

457
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: information that I have, it does feel that Aaron got

458
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: a little you know, went a little overboard, but regardless,

459
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: I think we can all take a step back and

460
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: go They've had it pretty good, you know, since he's

461
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: come back and he's they have one big that Aaron

462
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: has it really good. And I've been saying this over

463
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: and over and over again. He has it really really

464
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: good because despite not having it an owner, the Packers

465
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: are easily one of the biggest brands. I've been saying

466
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: this a long time in all of sports in the world.

467
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: If you've ever gone to a Packer game, whether on

468
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: the West Coast, the South, the Northeast, it is always

469
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: sold out and there are a majority of people there

470
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: outside of Landboat that are Green Bay Packer fans. They

471
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: are a massive national brand, and he's the star of

472
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: the team. And let's face it, he's probably gonna go

473
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: down as the best quarterback they've ever had, potentially the

474
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: best player they've ever had. He still has some to

475
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: be written, but think about like, management has been pretty

476
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: good to him. When they needed a coach, they went

477
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 1: out and at the time I thought it was kind

478
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: of a crazy higher. They hired la Fleur from Tennessee,

479
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: who had only been a coordinator for one year. Now,

480
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: he had works for the Shannon family for a while,

481
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: but that one year in Tennessee, it didn't go that well.

482
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: Like it's not like they were a prolific offense. Now

483
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: looking back, Mariota was his quarterback, and it was pretty

484
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: difficult probably to have a good offense with Mariota, but

485
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: they hired her and it was somewhat of a bold

486
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: move and he resurrected Roger's career because that next year

487
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Rogers was a little off, and within the following year

488
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: he's winning the m v P. And now again they're

489
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: going to compete to be the number one overall seat,

490
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest hires an organization can make

491
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: for any players. Who's the coach does the guy knows

492
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: what he's doing. We look all over the league how

493
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: terrible most coaches are because there are only so many

494
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: good coaches. It's like some people are just better than others.

495
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: You know, in the private sector, in the real world,

496
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's those such things equality. There's a reason

497
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Andy Reid it makes way more money than Robert Sala, Right,

498
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: he's just way better. Or you could just go around

499
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: the league like they're better salesman whatever job you're at

500
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: than the next guy, and that guy is worth more

501
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: to the company. You know, good coach is worth way

502
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: more to an NFL team than an average coach, let

503
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: alone a crappy coach. And we've all seen the team

504
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: that we watched closely, a team higher the wrong coach,

505
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: like drafting a player really high, especially a quarterback. It's

506
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: set your franchise back. And the Packers didn't just hire

507
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: the right coach, they nailed the higher. The dude just

508
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: stud like I've been impressed. I didn't ever see this coming.

509
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: All the guy does is win. The guy never loses. Hell,

510
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: even the game that he missed Rogers because of the

511
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: immunization thing. And he's gonna start Jordan's love like they

512
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: were in the game. It's not like the Chiefs meet

513
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: him forty to nothing like that in His quarterback didn't

514
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: even play well, and they competed well. Floor's good. They

515
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: draft really well. They've had one of the better offensive

516
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: lines now for years. Their mid round picks are fantastic,

517
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: whether it was Ted and now Gudikins. Like they put

518
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: a good infrastructure of players around Rogers. Do they have

519
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: some flaws, like we need better receivers. Yeah, every team

520
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: can complain about a position or two, but overall when

521
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: you watch him, when Rodgers on the field, they are

522
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: well put together team. And even in the Jordan's Love pick,

523
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: which clearly if they could have a redo they would

524
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: redo it, they would not have taken him. But at

525
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the time it wasn't that crazy because Rogers has just

526
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: played poorly. But I don't think they got enough credit.

527
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: They definitely at the time everyone acted like they were

528
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: morons for taking a J. Dillon, And I didn't know

529
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: that much about him. I don't watch BC football, but

530
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I remember Budding the League, who knows what he's talking about,

531
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I like that guy a lot. That

532
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: is a really good pick. And then his rookie season,

533
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, who's now on the Lions, was going to

534
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: be a free agent. Part of being a GM is

535
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: looking forward. Clearly, A J. Dillon, you know you talked

536
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: about following the board, let the board speak to you,

537
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: was probably the highest rated guy on the board at

538
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: the time. And now you know Aaron Jones gets hurt,

539
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: who's also an awesome player and goes out. They don't

540
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: skip a beat. A J. Dillon looks like freaking Marshawn

541
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: Lynch running over people. So like that the organization gets

542
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: credit for all this. Think how many teams around the

543
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: league that we go, God, this is just a poor draft,

544
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: and I see it with thet got holes all over

545
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: the place. All Goudikins does is phil holes. Now does

546
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: he benefit from inheriting a team even though he'd worked

547
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: there before. But I'm saying when he became the GM

548
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: of having Aaron Rodgers, of course, But Aaron Rodgers also

549
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: has to look at the Packers and go, he just

550
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: played a team that has, you know, somewhat of his

551
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: equal as a quarterback, super Bowl champion. You know, he's

552
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: he's higher level than Russell Wilson because he want a

553
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: bunch of MVPs. He's a better player, but you know,

554
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: Russell's a star. Like that's a flawed organization. I like

555
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: John Snyder, but that team is a mess. They're just

556
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: not that talented. They got issues, and hell they stick

557
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: with this coach who you know, it's just not the

558
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: most dynamic guy anymore. And I don't listen. I'm a

559
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, have a lot of respect for Pete Carroll,

560
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: but he's seven years old. Sometimes you just stopped throwing fastballs.

561
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: It happens to pictures. Right. One time, I'm throwing ninety

562
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: six and six. Seven years later, I'm only throwing one.

563
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. I know he's got great energy

564
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: and he looks young, but he's still seven years old.

565
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Not every seven year old is Bill Belichick. Maybe Pee

566
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: just doesn't have it anymore. And when you look at

567
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Russ Wilson, you go like, God, they got a flawed

568
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: roster and a lot of it is you know, they

569
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: need Russell. The Packers can compete if their quarterback position

570
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: is just okay without Rogers, right, or even when Rogers

571
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: is crappy, Seattle can't. Seattle needs Russell Wilson to be

572
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: a superstar. And listen, I made I made fun of

573
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Russell for the nineteen hours a day. Call me a

574
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: little old school like, I don't need to know how

575
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: hard you're working, like the price of admission for big

576
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: boy jobs. Uh, to make a lot of money in

577
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: this country. You don't sleep that much. You're up early,

578
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: you're working late, like it's part of the deal. We're

579
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: all doing it in some form of fashion. People listening

580
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: to this hell that don't even make big money or

581
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: working their ass off, let alone people that are running companies,

582
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: running their own business, like we all work hard, you know.

583
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: And I just think sometimes Russell can get a little cheesy,

584
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: and it might not be him. It could be as

585
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: people around him leaking all that crap. Like and I

586
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: said last week, I I no one ever questions Rustle's

587
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: will and desire to try to get back on the field.

588
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: He will do have people sleeping over at his house

589
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: working out his finger. But it's like the reach around

590
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: that happened on Sunday morning for the nineteen hours a day,

591
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, I mean, we get it, bro,

592
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: you work hard. Uh, It's just that that type stuff

593
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: to me drives me a little nuts about Russell. But

594
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: maybe that's just the world we live in with just

595
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: professional athletes now. But I don't know. I think Seattle

596
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: is in a little trouble. Uh. They're kind of kind

597
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: of come to a fork in the there three and

598
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: six like their seasons over Pete Carroll. To me, it's twofold.

599
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Does Russell even want to be there anymore? Like does

600
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: he actively want to you fire Pete, let me pick

601
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: the coach, or like I just want to go. I

602
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: just want to start over. And if that's the case,

603
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: to me, the team that would make the most sense

604
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: to just blow it up would be the Eagles, trading

605
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: them like four first round picks. The Eagles have three

606
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: first round picks. They could trade him my first round pick.

607
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: The next year, Seattle just kind of gets to do

608
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: a huge reset, you know, start over, Eagles, get Russell Wilson.

609
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Like that's something I would keep an eye on, and

610
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: it could just be away for John Schneider to maybe

611
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: hire a young, up and coming coach and just reset

612
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: the franchise like they had a great run. Maybe it's

613
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: not now. If Russell wants to stay, I obviously would

614
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: not trade him. But like you kind of saw last year,

615
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: like did he want out? Like they he just kind

616
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: of tired of being there. He just kind of feel

617
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: like it's run its course. Uh, And I'm not gonna

618
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: try to make you know, a mountain out of mole

619
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Hill one game, who when he's coming off the injury.

620
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: But they've been just kind of weird. It's weird, you know,

621
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: as someone that lives in the Bay Area. Whenever they

622
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: play the forty Niners, they never look that bad. But

623
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: whenever I'm sitting on my couch and watching them play

624
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: other teams, especially when they lose, Seattle can look so terrible.

625
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Yet whenever I've experienced him, I've been I've watched him

626
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: live probably three or four times over the years. They

627
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: always look unreal, unstoppable. Yet I'd say like eight to

628
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: ten games a year now they end up winning probably

629
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: of the ten, probably seven of them, but they always look,

630
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, so flawed, and then their losses they look horrendous.

631
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Yet I whenever I've seen them in person, they never

632
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: look like that. And I know any Niner fan would

633
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: a test. They never play like that against the forty Niners.

634
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: But they are. They're They're a weird team that feels

635
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: like they're trending in a direction that you don't ideally

636
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Speaker 1: want to go, which is down. Let's go around the

637
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Speaker 1: NFL A little bit. I said this last week after

638
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Speaker 1: the Sunday night football game, is I think that we naturally,

639
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Speaker 1: and I say we, I just mean you know, fans

640
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Speaker 1: around the NFL. Obviously you know media, but the media

641
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: gets very influenced by agents. So agents push their clients

642
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Speaker 1: to them. So when you gotta take it with a

643
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Speaker 1: grain of salt. When you see the blue check marks

644
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Speaker 1: and the heavy hitters in football media, like when they're

645
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Speaker 1: pushing people a lot of times is because the agent

646
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: is pushing their clients, which is a little inside inside

647
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: the game. But we gravitate toward offensive guys. It's an

648
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: offensive league scoring points of sexy, so those guys get

649
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of put on a pestil And when they're good,

650
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: like they or Lafleur, you know, Kyle's one year, right,

651
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean Payton, they deserve it. But Mike Vrabel,

652
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: being a defensive guy, you just don't get the same credit.

653
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: But the guy we gotta, as the kids say, give

654
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: him his flowers. He's eight and two. Julio Jones is

655
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: now an injury reserve of the hamstring. Derrick Henry is

656
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: a broken foot. All the guy does his win. All

657
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: the guy does his win if he's able and I

658
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, we still got a long way

659
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: to go. If he's able to get the number one

660
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: seed with the Tennessee Titans, especially if he Mrs Derrick

661
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Henry half the year, that's one of the most incredible

662
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: accomplishments I've ever seen. Even if the a f C

663
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Speaker 1: is a little down. I just I some people are

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Speaker 1: just born to lead, you know that they really are.

665
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Speaker 1: Some people, you know, are just born to sit at

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Speaker 1: the head of the table. And let's face it, most

667
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Speaker 1: people are not. It's one it's an intimidating place to

668
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Speaker 1: be and the overwhelming majority of people are just insecure

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Speaker 1: about their skills in a working environment. And I just

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00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: think leaders, maybe they are insecure too, but they are

671
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: able to mask it. And when I watched Mike Rabel,

672
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Speaker 1: I just go, this guy was born to be a

673
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: head coach. This guy, you know, if he hadn't gotten

674
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Speaker 1: into coaching after he was done playing, he would have

675
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: ran a you know, several successful businesses. Like this guy

676
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: was born to be the leader of whatever he was doing.

677
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: And you're watching him now and you go, yeah, it

678
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Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. The guy's just like I said

679
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: with and he's just a winner, you know, he really is.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere he goes, he he just he wins as a player.

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00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: Now as a coach, uh, he gravitates toward it, and

682
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: maybe winning gravitates toward him. Because even though the Colts

683
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: are making a sneaky comeback, they're now five and five,

684
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Speaker 1: he beat him twice. So the division, he's got a

685
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: three game lead. He beat that team twice. It's basically

686
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Speaker 1: a rap I I really think they're playing for that

687
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: number one seed now, they just you know, they're They're

688
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: not getting much offense with Tannehill. It's not like he's

689
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Speaker 1: throwing for three hundre yards of a game. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that does catch up to him. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Mike Vrabel kind of like Belichick just figures out

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Speaker 1: when I said Belichick, like it's three different syllables, just

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Speaker 1: a way to get it done. I I would not

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Speaker 1: I would not discount him. I watched this morning the

695
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Bucks UH football team game. The Bucks played really well,

696
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: and they say styles make fights. Maybe the Bucks just

697
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: feel pretty confident playing them because they outphysical them. Heineke

698
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: was excellent. UH. Their offensive skill guys Gibson and Terry

699
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: McLaurin are just making plays. The wide receiver from Sack

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00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: State was making like they just they just looked excellent.

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Speaker 1: Like if you just watch the Bucks in the playoff

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Speaker 1: game against Tampa UH in January, and then that game,

703
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, that's a playoff team. That was the

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00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: team that everyone in the preseason was going, this team

705
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Speaker 1: can win the division, this team can compete to go

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But for whatever reason, they don't play

707
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: like that. But when they played Tampa, that's how they

708
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Speaker 1: look out. Part of it is like Tampa's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries, right, Richard Sherman, who's playing because they

710
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: have a bunch of injuries, gets hurt and train in

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00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: uh in warmups, he's out. Vita b gets hurt in

712
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: in the game, who's one of their best players. Gronks

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: on the sideline, A b still got some you know,

714
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: a boot on his foot. They're just they're banged up.

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Speaker 1: And I do think at forty four years old, it

716
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: is a little like it is incumbent on Tom's team

717
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: being really good. A huge reason they won the Super

718
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: Bowl last year was Tom's teammates. Now, I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to diminish his accomplishment. He is nails. You trust him,

720
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: but let's face it, like if we went back and

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Speaker 1: watch the playoff games, it's not like he was perfect.

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Speaker 1: They have a loaded squad and in the Super Bowl,

723
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: why were they kicking Mahome's ass. Defensively, they couldn't block them.

724
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady rushing off the edge, and I wonder if

725
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: their defense is just quite the same. Devin White still

726
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: playing his ass off, but they're missing a bunch of dbs.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like their pass rush is quite as good. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna write them off. They have too good

729
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: of a coaching staff and as long as you got

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Speaker 1: Tom around, you got a chance. But that they're definitely

731
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Speaker 1: to get your ass kicked like that. And let's face it,

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Speaker 1: they get their butt kicked because it was twenty three

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Speaker 1: to nineteen, and you know, they gotta they gotta turnover.

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Speaker 1: It was actually twenty three I think too. Uh the

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Speaker 1: thirteen they get a turnover and they score. So the

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Speaker 1: game actually wasn't that Tampa was able to score. And

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Speaker 1: then Washington goes on like a nine minute drive and

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Speaker 1: scores the end of it goes for like fourth and one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was like fourth and three. It was sweet,

740
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: very very impressive win by the football team. The best

741
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Speaker 1: worst game I've ever seen in my life. It was

742
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: crazy because Fox and CBS where I live had the

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00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Cowboy game and had the Patriot game. Both games going

744
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter, the combined score was eighty to ten.

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00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: Neither game made it to the fourth quarter on TV,

746
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: they switched both games, so I ended up watching a

747
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: lot of the Steelers and the Lions, and it was

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's now calling plays. He uh, he gave Anthony

749
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Lynn the boot. He's there calling plays. Jared goffs not

750
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: a very good football player. He's just not now. It

751
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: was raining hardhold onto the football that set football back

752
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: a long time. The Lions are our god awful team.

753
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: They just don't have much talent, and Jared Goff is

754
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: not very good. So when you don't have much talent,

755
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: your quarterback is not very good. There's you know, Belichick

756
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: would struggle to win four games with that team. But

757
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers who actually made some play, especially on the stretch,

758
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: they had to just awful fumbles. But Roethlisberger's out with

759
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: COVID of self reported raps. She gave him a lot

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: of credit. He's like, that is leadership. He said he

761
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: had the sniffles and his throat hurt, and he told

762
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: on himself, it's like, let's give him cross. We just

763
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: that's the one thing on Sunday mornings, when there aren't

764
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: like the polarizing stories like Gruden or coach getting fired,

765
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: they actually go the opposite way, like the Russell Wilson,

766
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Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger, and it gets a little exhausting, a

767
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: little cheesy for my taste. But they start Mason Rudolph

768
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: and he put them in position to win. They just

769
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Speaker 1: couldn't hold on the football and they had just two

770
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Speaker 1: fumbles that really cost him. But the game ended in tie.

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Speaker 1: Then everyone makes a big difference or a big deal.

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: When Nazi Harris acknowledges he didn't know there was a tie.

773
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: I think people don't quite realize not every person is

774
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: a big NFL fan that plays in the NFL. So

775
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: and it's not like if you're Naigie Harris, you're playing

776
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: any less hard because you think you go to another overtime.

777
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: But that always like gets people riled up. Donovan McNab

778
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: said a long time, probably little worse for the quarterback.

779
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: But I don't judge Naji Harris for not knowing that

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Speaker 1: there's not multiple overtimes. I think they threw for like

781
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: three just a little over three hundred yards the two quarterbacks.

782
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: They played five quarters, so it was it was a

783
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: rough watch the Steelers. I think the Steelers are in trouble.

784
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: I still think they probably make the playoffs, but they

785
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: have absolutely no chance to win the Super Bowl. They

786
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: have no offense. They cannot push the ball down the field,

787
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: but they have good offensive players. It's very bizarre. Their

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00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is just not good. Roethlisberger shot and Mason

789
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Rudolph just isn't good. And then they don't have a

790
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Speaker 1: good enough offensive line to have Nagy going like for

791
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty yards a game. Because if he played

792
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Speaker 1: on a team with a good offensive line, like if

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Speaker 1: you put Nagy Harris on like the Colts, he would

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00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: uh you gave him to like Sean McVeigh, he would

795
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: be he would be awesome. I didn't think it was

796
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Uh. The Cowboys gave dan Quinn the game ball,

797
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: and I saw some quotes dan Quinn gave to Albert Brier.

798
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean they absolutely. I mean that that was the

799
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: biggest joke game of the year. It was like it

800
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: felt thirty to nothing before you could even blank. It

801
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: was I think thirty six to three at halftime. It

802
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: was an embarrassment for the Atlanta Falcons, but they gave

803
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: the book game ball to dan Quinn. He said he

804
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: got emotional and as someone who's been fired before, and listen,

805
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: I tried to move on. I tried not to hold

806
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: on the past. But there is like if you're prideful,

807
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, and most of us you know, and if

808
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: you get fired in football, you're gonna go probably work

809
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: for another football team. Right when I got fired in football,

810
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: I changed careers, so I never it didn't really matter,

811
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: right if Chip had success or whatever, though he didn't. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like I wasn't competing against him. Now when

813
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Speaker 1: I got fired in radio and kind of made the

814
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: transition of podcast, do I get some uh, you know,

815
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: get a little excited. No one, you know I have

816
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: more success than the station. Of course, you know if

817
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: we're wrong humans. I don't spend too much and the

818
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: farther and farther you separate from it, you don't spend

819
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: too much time. Queenn got fired last year. If I

820
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Speaker 1: was in his position, I mean, I would have taken

821
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Speaker 1: that game ball. I would have gone back out over

822
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Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons uh blocker room. I would have

823
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Speaker 1: knocked on the door when Arthur Smiths opened, I would

824
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: have spiked that thing right in front of them all

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Speaker 1: and then waved to him and said, Arthur, thanks for

826
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: all the money you paid me and give him a

827
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: do sign and listen. He deserved to be fired. The

828
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons were awful, but that had to feel pretty

829
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: good for him. That had to feel really good for him,

830
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: because they didn't just beat him, they housed him, and

831
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: they fired him for an offensive coach. So to shut

832
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: them out, basically and destroy them. I can't even imagine

833
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: how good that couple of beers or maybe cocktail or

834
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: glass and wine with his wife felt that night after

835
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: the game to get the game ball. Um, and you

836
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: could see one thing about dan Quinn. I don't know

837
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Speaker 1: how dynamic he is as an exs nose guy, though

838
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I bet he's probably better than I would imagine. The

839
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: players seemed and they even did in Atlanta to really

840
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: like him. And if you go back and watch the Cowboys, uh,

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00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: once McCarthy gives him the game ball, kind of gravitate

842
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: toward in the locker room like he's pretty well liked.

843
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: And the difference of dan Quinn so far this year

844
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: and Mike Nolan is like going from some random high

845
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: school coach to Vince Lombardi, right, I mean that that,

846
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Speaker 1: I mean how Mike Nolan Mike Nolan couldnt been any worse.

847
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have put a cardboard cutout as

848
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensive coordinator last year and it would have

849
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: been at worst unequal. It was that bad. And Dan

850
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Quinn has done a really, really good job and what

851
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: he's doing Michael Parsons turning that guy into you know,

852
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: borderline like all pro. He's definitely gonna be probably the

853
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: defensive rookie of the year. It's been it's been fun

854
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: to watch. And then last but not least, Washington fired

855
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: their coach, Jimmy Like. There are a ton of college

856
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: jobs open. Obviously, l s U to me is the

857
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: best job USC University of Washington. University of Washington made

858
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs like five or six years ago. To Chris Peterson,

859
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: they get a ton of NFL people. Uh, the University

860
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: of Florida, who won the SEC East last year might

861
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: also become available. Those jobs are massive, and when you

862
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: get those type jobs available, the dominoes that are about

863
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: to take place could be pretty crazy because people that

864
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: are gonna fill those jobs are gonna be people from

865
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: other programs. So like if Dave A. Rand takes a job,

866
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: if Matt Campbell and Iowa state takes a job. If

867
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Hell the biggest shocker like Lincoln Riley were to leave,

868
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: you could have enormous kind of butterfly effect around the country.

869
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: And I would say used to probably ten fifteen years ago.

870
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Those type jobs might even attract NFL coordinators like you'd

871
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: be like, well, Chris Peterson still influences the University of Washington.

872
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll come after Kellen Moore. NFL people don't want

873
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: to touch college anymore. And I l bullshit, and listen,

874
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't mean bullshit from the sense I don't care

875
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: they get paid. I'm just saying it's a pain in

876
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: the ass recruiting is. I mean, you don't have to

877
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: do any of that. As a college coach. You have

878
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: to game plan during the week and scout. You're basically

879
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: doing two jobs. In the pros, you just coach, the

880
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: scouts watched the players. Then in the off season, you know,

881
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: you watch the guys coming into the draft. But in

882
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: college football you basically wear both hats. You are. You know,

883
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: if you're the running back coach at wherever you are,

884
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: the running back coach, you're getting your team ready to

885
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: play every day, and then you're scouting all the running

886
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: backs throughout the country for multiple class while you're spending

887
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: a lot of time wait, you know, talking to them

888
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: on the phone. NFL coaches once they get to the league. Now,

889
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: especially with the money being as big, it's not even

890
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: worth it. So you know, it used to be like, well,

891
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: you can get some sucks, some guys back from the NFL.

892
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: I do think that's a little more difficult now because

893
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: those guys don't want to leave. And these coordinators. If

894
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: you're an offensive or defensive coordinator in the NFL, you know,

895
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Kellen Moore probably makes like two

896
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars. A bunch of defensive coordinators

897
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: around the league make like three million dollars. So it's like, wait,

898
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: University of Washington's gonna pay me four I'll just wait

899
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: to become a head coach in the NFL. You know,

900
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: I saw a coward tweet about Mel Tucker, who's probably

901
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: gonna sign a long deal with Michigan State, Like why

902
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't Mel Tucker Like, yeah, he could go to l

903
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: s U because l s us a better job of

904
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: the Michigan State, or he could just make seven eight

905
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: million dollars in Michigan State and eventually an NFL team

906
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: is gonna come to him because if he keeps winning eight, nine,

907
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: ten games a year, he can stay at Michigan State

908
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: for a long time. You just saw the coach that

909
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: he replaced was there forever, and eventually he's got a

910
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: long NFL background. If he wants to make the jump,

911
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: he can make the jump. He doesn't need to leave,

912
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's it's become a lot more

913
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: complicated of a landscape. But this offseason for coaching turnover

914
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty outrageous. It really is, because these

915
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: are some jobs that obviously USC, I mean l s

916
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: U is gonna pay seven eight million dollars. USC is

917
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: probably gonna pay five or six. Washington might pay four.

918
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's how many people you know making four

919
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: million dollars a year they aren't playing in the NFL.

920
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's a lot of money. So it's

921
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: it should uh should be a fun off season really

922
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: for college off seasons, and about with these jobs already opening,

923
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: it really heats up probably in about fifteen days. I

924
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: love and I mean I I live for the coaching

925
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: carousel in college and in the pros. My favorite time

926
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: of year. Like I like the coaching carousel as much

927
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: as I do the game, so we will be all

928
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: over that as we move into December. In January, Okay,

929
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: let's dive into Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is

930
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the Instagram and uh slide up into my d MS.

931
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: Gave your question answered here on the show. We're gonna

932
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: start with Wade Wade Baldwin full name on the Internet. John.

933
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: After yesterday's Brown's game, a lot of people are once

934
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: again talking about what to do with Baker. My first

935
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: reaction was, I think the Browns should throw their hat

936
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: in the Watson sweepstakes this upcoming off season. An upgraded

937
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: quarterback could be the difference in them in my opinion.

938
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: But do you think Baker plus high value draft picks

939
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: could be traded for Watson? Also, would it be a

940
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: fair comparison to compare Baker to Marcus Mariotta? Love the pot.

941
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Let's start with your second question. I don't think him

942
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: and Mariotta have much in common. Baker is a better

943
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: thrower the football, Mariota's bigger, obviously a much better athlete.

944
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I think Baker is a better quarterback went healthy, but

945
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: he's tiny for NFL standards. I mean he's you know,

946
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: six ft to twenty or whatever. He's big for bigger

947
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: for normal person standards, but he's he's gotten really banged up.

948
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Kyler got her. Little guys get hurt.

949
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's it is a big man, grown man's leak.

950
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: And even though the NFL doesn't have Steve Attwater and

951
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: Ronny Lot hitting you anymore and John Lynch, it's still

952
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: very very violent. Guys have never been faster. The only

953
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: time they get to hit opponents is in games, and

954
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: they're coming for blood and the guy's already breaking down.

955
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: If if Deshaun Watson can figure out his mess off

956
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: the field and it all goes away, I would imagine

957
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: they would be in the sweepstakes and giving them a quarterback.

958
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: The problem is, you give the Texans Baker Mayfield, do

959
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: they have to extend Baker Mayfield kind of gets into

960
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: a tough spot. H Kyle, Are the Rams creating a

961
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: super team in the NFL taking guidance from the NBA.

962
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: Love the parody in the NFL and hope it stays

963
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: that way for a while. Favorite bar Floor Obama never

964
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: been there? Uh I guess the topic. I'm curious to

965
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: get your thoughts around. Will we see super team culture

966
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Not necessarily because is like you have

967
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Von Miller, Jalen Ramsey, and Aaron Donald on the same

968
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: team and Matt Stafford and Odell Beckham in the NBA,

969
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: you're guaranteed to be really good. In the NFL. It

970
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you anything that the Rams are good, right,

971
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: But in basketball, a super team basically just means two

972
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: or three guys. If you have three really good players. Help.

973
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: The Warriors had Steph Clay and Draymond they were now

974
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: they were an organic super team, but then they signed

975
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. It's not fair if you have four really

976
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: good players. I mean, forty Niners have Nick Boza, Trent Williams,

977
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, like they have a core four

978
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: of guys, Fred Warner and Ship. They've they've struggled all

979
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: season long, recording this part before the Monday night game.

980
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: But it's just it's just so much different because twenty

981
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: two guys start and then on both offense and defense,

982
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: another four or five guys rotate in, so you just

983
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: have so many players. I don't think it's possible. I

984
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: think the way get a super team is by having

985
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: a super quarterback. You get my Homes, you get Rogers,

986
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: you get Brady and then Banning right and you've got

987
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: a super team. It's much more quarterback dependent. We're in

988
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: the NBA. Even if I have a superstar like the

989
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: Trailblazers with Dame Lillard, if I don't have two or

990
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: three guys to help him out, I got no shot none.

991
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I was wondering what you think of the rest of

992
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: the Bengal season is gonna look like? You think they

993
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: should be in panic mode? Are they a playoff team? Well,

994
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a loser Leaf Town match. On Sunday,

995
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: they're going to or Not Oakland to Vegas and the

996
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Raiders are in shambles. The Raiders have now lost two

997
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: straight games. They got punked by the Chiefs. They got

998
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: they just didn't play very well against the Giants. You're

999
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: coming off of bye. You in that game and you're

1000
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: six and four, I think you have a chance to

1001
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: make the wild card. You lose that game and you

1002
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: go five and five, and all of a sudden, the

1003
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: Raiders are six and four. I would say that the

1004
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: Raiders would probably have the upper end on the on

1005
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: the deal. I think we're gonna learn a lot about

1006
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: the angles coming off of by going to Las Vegas

1007
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: taking on a team that's kind of just leaking oil.

1008
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I think whoever wins that game has a chance to

1009
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of right their season. Honestly, I'll probably pick the

1010
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Bengals in that game, but I don't really trust you,

1011
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland fan. After watching this play on Sunday against the Patriots,

1012
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: one has to ask themselves, are the Brown's head in

1013
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: the right direction after separating ourselves from a distraction oh

1014
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: b J and sticking to the basics by signing too

1015
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: great offensive lineman, why can't the Browns make this work?

1016
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem the answer is as easy as Baker

1017
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Mayfield's injury. There seems to be more to it. On paper,

1018
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: things look great, Higgins, People's Jones, Austin Hooper, blah blah blah.

1019
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Fan base as a whole believes in Stefanski and Andrew Berry.

1020
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: So what's not clicking? Well? Against the Against the Patriots,

1021
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: Baker was awful. I mean, he was terrible. Now he

1022
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: was injured, but you can't I do think it's as

1023
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: simple as Baker Mayfield. When you have a really good

1024
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: quarterback and you have a team is talented, is your team,

1025
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: You're not gonna lose. Like the quarterback is the most

1026
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: important thing going. When you have a guy that just talented,

1027
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: not that Baker is, but you have Lamar, you have Mahomes,

1028
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: you have a top guy Josh Allen, you're gonna win.

1029
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Right So Baker is a very limited player right now.

1030
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: He's played the last you know, I guess he was

1031
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: good against the Bengals, but he's just had some games

1032
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: this year where he's like a bottom ten quarterback. And

1033
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: you can't overcome that in the NFL, not in two

1034
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you just can't. I mean, I think it's as simple

1035
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: as like, they get a good quarterback. I love everything

1036
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: they got. Now it's harder to harder to get a

1037
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: good quarterback than you know. It's one thing to be like,

1038
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: let's go get a quarterback, Like who how there's no

1039
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the draft none, I mean, no quarterback you're

1040
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna feel great about even if you draft in the

1041
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: first round. Okay, let's go get who trade for Russell Wilson. Well,

1042
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: he's got a demand to trade, Uh, Deshaun Watson. Well,

1043
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: he's got seven million chicks claiming that something weird happened.

1044
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: So until that goes away, nothing's gonna happen. Rogers, as

1045
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: Rogers really gonna leave the Packers, I doubt it. So

1046
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: who's even available, Jimmy Garoppolo. You just kind of you

1047
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: get in a spot where Baker might be your best option.

1048
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: But if Baker's your best option, you're kind of limited.

1049
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: What do you consider the Titans real super Bowl contenders?

1050
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: If not, what do you do to get more respect

1051
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL? It's hard for me to see them

1052
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl and win it without Derrick Henry.

1053
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: He's the best player and their team revolves around him.

1054
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: And they've been able to win the last two weeks

1055
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: with Tanney Hill against the Ramps, which they won a

1056
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: hundred and forty three yards, and they won by twelve

1057
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: points against the Saints, which there was a late touchdown

1058
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: he threw for two thirteen points. So they've won back

1059
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: to back games. And really the Saints that late touchdown,

1060
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean it easily could have been And I know

1061
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole game. I guess there were

1062
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: some controversial calls. So they've won two straight games, won

1063
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: by twelve and there by two, so they you know,

1064
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: an average of seven points a game. He's throwing for

1065
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: two touchdown and he's averaging like a hundred sixties eight

1066
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: yards hundred seventy yards. I don't know if that's sustainable.

1067
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: I just don't, so that would be my question. Now,

1068
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: once you get in the playoffs, you have a great coach,

1069
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: but just can your can your quarterback carry you? Now,

1070
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: the stats this year actually aren't terrible. I mean, he's

1071
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: having a he's throwing twelve touchdowns, eight picks. I guess

1072
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: they're not that great. I mean last year Tannehill is

1073
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: really good. He threw thirty three touchdowns. This year through

1074
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: ten games, he's thrown twelve, So he's averaging like one

1075
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: point two touchdowns a game. Seven games left. It's pretty crazy.

1076
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: If you get the number one seed and he throws

1077
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: for like twenty to twenty four touchdowns, that's pretty nuts.

1078
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: That's why i'd probably bet against you. Uh, Nick, thanks

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00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: for what you provide. I appreciate listening. My Seahawks look

1080
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: like a dumpster fire. If you were the GM, what

1081
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: would you do to turn this thing around? I don't

1082
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: think there's much you can do. You know, the first

1083
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: round pick. I think you'd have to contemplate sitting down

1084
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: with Russ and saying, hey, listen, we want you here.

1085
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: If you want to stay here, we will fire Pete

1086
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Carroll or we will force him into retirement and we

1087
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: will get a coach will help. You'll be part of

1088
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: the interview process. You just gotta treat Russell like an

1089
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: NBA player, just part of the reality. He's the best

1090
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: player in the history of the franchise by a mile.

1091
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: You don't really have a choice. And worst case scenario,

1092
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: which is also not the worst case scenario, what if

1093
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: he goes Listen, guys, I'm ready for a change, and

1094
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: you go listen. I don't want to trade Russell Wilson,

1095
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna call Howie and I'm gonna say, Howie,

1096
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: I'll take your three first rounders, and I'll take two

1097
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: more first rounders. Give me five first round picks, and

1098
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: you can have Russell Wilson and I'll just reset my franchise.

1099
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: That's probably what I do. Those would be my two options.

1100
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Had a college football question, if Texas loses out and

1101
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: misses a bowl game, what do you think the chances

1102
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: are Stark gets fired. I think they give him at

1103
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: least two years now. If he goes four and eight,

1104
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: I do think it's a fireball offense because you look

1105
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: at his history and his resume. He's not a winner.

1106
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: He's a guy that struggles to win seven games back

1107
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: when the Pack twelve wasn't very good. So I and

1108
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: this year four night with that rot like, that's inexcusable.

1109
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: It can't happen. You cannot lose the Kansas at home.

1110
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: It's the worst loss of my life. I ben't won

1111
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: a game on the road in thirteen years Kansas. They

1112
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: won twenty games over the last decade. Starc lost in

1113
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: overtime to their backup. Kansas was playing their backup quarterback,

1114
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: scored fifty seven points. Fifty seven points. It's just probably

1115
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: too expensive to fire him. But yeah, I mean, I

1116
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: think he would be in major, major trouble going into

1117
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. I just went to the Texas

1118
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: Kansas game and it was wild as a b y

1119
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: u alum and Southern California guy. I have seen a

1120
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: lot of Sarkisian, but this is the worst he has looked.

1121
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: Do you think he could be on the hot seat already.

1122
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Might he just be an excellent coordinator. There's nothing wrong

1123
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: with being a really good coordinator. It pays a lot. Uh,

1124
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: just not everyone. Like I said about Mike Vrabel, some

1125
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: people are meant to be number one. Mike Vrabel thrives

1126
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: at the head of the table. Nick Saban thrives at

1127
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: the head of the table. They belong there, Belichick, Andy

1128
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: Peyton Stark belongs the first seat next to the head coach.

1129
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. Luckily, in his industry,

1130
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: it pays millions of dollars. Now, he's because he has

1131
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: a good agent, and he's got a good personality. He's

1132
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: a good looking guy. Uh, He's works for some powerful coaches.

1133
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: He's able to get the seat at the front of

1134
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: the table. But he clearly doesn't do very good job

1135
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: in that spot. He just doesn't. And and I think sometimes,

1136
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I talked for a living, it's like

1137
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: you're being really critical, Like, no, I'm just calling a

1138
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: spade is paid. I'm I'm just it is what it is.

1139
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: He just doesn't win that often in that job. You

1140
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: get based on wins and losses. Right, It's clear, like

1141
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan or call her daddy or whatever. Like a

1142
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: lot of people listen, they're really successful. They it works.

1143
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Howard Stern historically coward right, Dan Patrick, Like, it's just

1144
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: like it speaks for itself. Right, It's just some people

1145
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: are good at their job. Some people just aren't. Now.

1146
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: Luckily for Sark, there are several jobs inside football you

1147
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: can do, but being a head coach is clearly not

1148
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: a strunk suit. I couldn't be a head coach. I

1149
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: mean most most people listening couldn't be a head coach.

1150
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: Is hard. My question is what will it take for

1151
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: the Vikings to move off Kirk Cousins. I swear if

1152
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: they extend Cousins again, I'm burning all my Vikings jerseys.

1153
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: I hate. Other Vikings are okay with being mediocre. I

1154
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: was begging them to move up to number five to

1155
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: draft Justin Herbert back to a couple of years ago.

1156
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about that guy. I

1157
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: saw something special. He just looked like another NFL starter. Well,

1158
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: you're stuck with him, you know. Spielman extended him for whatever,

1159
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars after he'd already given him eighty five

1160
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: million dollars. Like he's your quarterback now. Granted I watched

1161
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: the Charger Vikings game and then he looked pretty good.

1162
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is an incredible player that I don't even

1163
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: think people in the NFL realize how good this guy

1164
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: would be. He is a star. I mean he was

1165
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: on the field with Keenan Allen, who's a star too.

1166
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: He's just way better. Like Justin Jefferson was the best

1167
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: player on that field. He is a dominant NFL wide receiver. Dominant.

1168
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: It's only the second year. It is pretty crazy looking

1169
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: back that they had him in Jamaar Chase. No wonder

1170
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: they kicked everyone's ass. The NFL can't really cover either guy,

1171
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: and they had both of them with an NFL quarterback. Man. Hey, John,

1172
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: Eagles fan from Ireland, what's up, bro? In regards to

1173
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: teams like the Eagles with quarterbacks like Jalen Hurts and

1174
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: can't be called the franchise quarterback, at least not yet

1175
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: after his current performance. Do you think a team in

1176
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: position where a quarterback is not their only problem should

1177
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: they go after a quarterback in the upcoming draft or

1178
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: just stick around and target other holes in the roster.

1179
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: I just think you have to keep letting this season

1180
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: play out. I'm not a big Jalen Hurts guy. I

1181
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the Denver game. Obviously, you know, bring

1182
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: up a statu right now how he played. I just

1183
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're sold on him. Now. There's

1184
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: not a quarterback in this draft that I think they're

1185
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna be sold on either, So you're kind of in

1186
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: a tough spot. What I would hope to do if

1187
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: I was Hallie, is to trade for a guy, whether

1188
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Derek Carr becomes available, whether obviously Russell Wilson, I would

1189
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: trade whatever it took. So Jalen went sixteen twenty three

1190
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: yards like Jalleens just, man, he's actually better than I

1191
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: ever thought he would be. I would right to get

1192
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, and I have the AMMO to do it.

1193
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: That That's what I think they'll attempt to do, But

1194
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: one has to become available. If not, I just think

1195
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: they use those picks on players and building around Jalen.

1196
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: Not build around Jalen, but build a team while Jalen

1197
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: is the quarterback. What do the Vikings need to do

1198
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: to get out of purple purgatory? Not a super Bowl coach,

1199
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: GM or quarterback, but also never bad enough to snack

1200
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: a top five pick. What would you do if you

1201
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: were the owner? I think the Vikings are pretty good.

1202
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: That you know there are four and five, but they

1203
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: easily could be I don't know six and three. Like

1204
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: I watched him, and I go, that's a pretty good

1205
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: football team. They have really good players. Their offense is

1206
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: really good when everyone's on the field. You know, I

1207
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: think they are a baffling team. I don't know what

1208
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: I would do. I think that's a tough spot. You're right,

1209
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: you never want to be in purgatory. But they're better

1210
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: than I think some teams that are in purgatory because

1211
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: they go to the playoffs a lot. They have a

1212
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: lot of success. They do have legitimate NFL players and

1213
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: a lot of key positions. Their quarterback isn't bad, and

1214
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: he's under contract for a while. You know, I guess

1215
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: you fire Zimmer at the end of the year if

1216
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: he missed the playoffs, and maybe he'll try to hire

1217
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: an offensive guy. That's what I would imagine they end

1218
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: up doing. Spielman get to keep his job. You know,

1219
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't follow the team close enough to know. I

1220
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: think Rick Spielman is pretty good at his job. Uh.

1221
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: Now you get judged done more than just drafting players,

1222
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: the coach stuff, free agency, you know. But I know

1223
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: people around the NFL that I know like him a lot,

1224
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: respect him a lot. It's a tough spot. I mean,

1225
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: I guess Zimmer, but I honestly kind of like Zimmer

1226
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: though I get it he's old, you know, crotchy, defensive guy,

1227
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, rub some fans the wrong way. Not innovative.

1228
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: But I saw this thing when viral today he's doing

1229
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: his media thing on Zoom and Dion Sandrews calls. I

1230
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: think people like Zimmer that worked with him, that have

1231
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: coached with him. Actually no one coach to work with

1232
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: him that did not like him. But you know, teach

1233
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: his own Uh. I don't know. For a guy that

1234
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: you know usually takes a stand, I'm kind of sitting

1235
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: on the fence on this one. Let's just see how

1236
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: the season plays out, because if they go ten and

1237
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: seven or to make like the seven seed, probably keeps

1238
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: his job. You know, he probably does appreciate everyone listening.

1239
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Talk to everyone soon, Audios the volume