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Speaker 1: We the people In the audio town hall with Vice

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Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris in conversation with Charlemagne the God, live

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Speaker 1: from Detroit, Michigan and exclusively on iHeartRadio. We'll tackle the

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Speaker 1: tough questions, the pressing issues, and the future of our nation.

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Speaker 1: Now here's your house, Charlemagne the God.

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Speaker 2: Yes, peace of the planet. Charlamagne the God here with

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Speaker 2: Madame Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: How are you very well, Charlemagne? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Listen? We got twenty days in sixty minutes, so we

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Speaker 2: just need to get to it.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you all. It was twenty one day.

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Speaker 2: How are you because you did just walk in.

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Speaker 3: You was kind of la well, I try to be

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Speaker 3: on time. Well apparently I'm forty seconds late.

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Speaker 2: You're right, well, you are black. Now. You know one

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Speaker 2: thing they've been saying, a lot of your press hits

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Speaker 2: get criticized. You know, folks that you come off as

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Speaker 2: a very scripted. They say you like to stick to

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Speaker 2: your talking points, and some media says you have.

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Speaker 3: That would be called disciplined.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, okay. Some people say you have an inability

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Speaker 2: to fearlessly say who you are and what you believe.

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Speaker 2: I know that's not true, But what do you say

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Speaker 2: to that criticism? And is it fair for s and

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Speaker 2: now to make fun of it?

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Speaker 3: Hasn't Maya Rudolph been wonderful? Yes, I think I have

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Speaker 3: nothing but admiration for the comedy, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: important to be able to laugh at yourself and each

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Speaker 3: other in the spirit of obviously comedy, and not belittling

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Speaker 3: people as my opponent would do.

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Speaker 2: But what do you say to people who say you

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Speaker 2: stay on the talking points?

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Speaker 3: I would say you're welcome. I mean, listen, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I love having conversations, which is why I'm so happy

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Speaker 3: to be with you this afternoon. And the reality is

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Speaker 3: that there are certain things that must be repeated to

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Speaker 3: ensure that I have everyone know what I stand for

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Speaker 3: and the issues that I think are at stake in

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Speaker 3: this election, and so it requires repetition. You know, some

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Speaker 3: people say that until someone has heard the same thing

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Speaker 3: at least three times, it just doesn't stay with you.

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Speaker 3: So repetition is important. And for that reason, Yes, at

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Speaker 3: my rallies, I say the same thing when I go

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Speaker 3: to Detroit, as I do in Philly, as I do

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Speaker 3: wherever I am. To make sure that people here and

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Speaker 3: receive what I think are some of the most critical

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Speaker 3: issues that are at taking the selection.

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Speaker 2: There has to be a high level of anxiety too

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Speaker 2: when you have these conversations, though, because you are running

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Speaker 2: for president.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, there is certainly a lot

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Speaker 3: of I feel the weight of the moment and my role.

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Speaker 3: I feel an extraordinary weight of responsibility right now to

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Speaker 3: do everything I can. I'm telling you, Charlemagne, when I

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Speaker 3: go to bed at night, I I almost every night,

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Speaker 3: in addition to my prayers, will ask have I done

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Speaker 3: everything I could do?

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Speaker 2: Today?

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Speaker 3: This is a margin of era race. It's tight. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to win. I'm going to win, but it's tight,

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Speaker 3: and you know, what is at stake is truly profound

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Speaker 3: in historics, many would say, and it's about you know,

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Speaker 3: some people would say this lofty notion of supporting and

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Speaker 3: preserving our democracy, but it is about real issues that

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Speaker 3: affect people every day, like whether we're going to maintain

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Speaker 3: a thirty five dollars cap on insulin for our seniors,

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Speaker 3: whether we're going to continue to allow Medicare to negotiate

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Speaker 3: to have as my opponent would have a formalized stop

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Speaker 3: and frisk policy, for which he has said if a

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Speaker 3: police department does not do it, they should be defunded

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Speaker 3: or not. There is so much at stake, whether America

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Speaker 3: is going to stand on its principles around the importance

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Speaker 3: around the world, or whether we're going to admire dictators

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Speaker 3: and send during the height of COVID in the pandemic,

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Speaker 3: COVID tests that nobody could get to the President of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that one has gone over people's head,

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Speaker 2: the fact that he was sending COVID test to putin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I invite, I don't your listeners,

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Speaker 3: in the twenty sixteen election, because I was a member

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Speaker 3: of the Senate Intelligence Committee when we investigated it targeted

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Speaker 3: black voters in twenty sixteen with missing disinformation to discourage

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Speaker 3: black people from voting in that election. And this is

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Speaker 3: just another of the very many examples of who Donald

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Speaker 2: Sending COVID test to Russia. That doesn't sound very America

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Speaker 2: first at all. But it's not just you versus Trump,

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Speaker 2: is U versus misinformation. Yes, that's true, right, And one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest pieces of misinformation. One of the biggest

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Speaker 2: allegations against you is that you targeted and locked up

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Speaker 2: thousands of black men in San Francisco for weed. Some

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Speaker 2: say you did it to bus your careers, some say

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Speaker 2: you did it out of pure hate for black men.

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Speaker 2: Please tell us the facts. What's the facts of that situation.

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Speaker 3: It's just simply not true. And what public defenders who

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Speaker 3: most progressive prosecutor in California on marijuana cases and would

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Speaker 3: not send people to jail for simple possession of weed.

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Speaker 3: And as Vice President, have been a champion for bringing

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Speaker 3: my pledge is, as president, I will work on decriminalizing

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Speaker 3: it because I know exactly how those laws have been

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the talk back feature and take

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Speaker 2: some questions from the audience, I do want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about the legalization the weed, because you're saying

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Speaker 2: you want to legalize it. Now, what steps did the

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Speaker 3: So we had to work with the DA and it's

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Speaker 3: there's a certain level of bureaucracy that exists in the

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Speaker 3: down how weed's classified, how marijuana is classified, to make

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Speaker 3: some time. There's a whole process around that. But that's

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Speaker 3: the work that we have done, in addition to work

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Speaker 3: that we have done writ large on criminal justice reform.

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Speaker 4: My question for Kamala is why are we and I

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Speaker 4: say we because my tax dollars is sending the money.

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Speaker 4: Why are we sending money to other countries when we

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Speaker 4: desperately need in our own country for homeless housing resources

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Speaker 4: for whatever. That is my determining factor if I vote

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Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons the America for US rhetoric

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Speaker 2: resonates because nobody in America would complain about where money

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Speaker 2: was going if American citizens every day needs were being met.

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Speaker 2: So what do you say to.

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Speaker 3: That we can do it all? And we do so.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I maintained very strongly America should never

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Speaker 3: pull ourselves away from our responsibility as a world leader,

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Speaker 3: and that is in the best interest of our national

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Speaker 3: security in each one of us as Americans, and our

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Speaker 3: standing in the world. That being said, we also have

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Speaker 3: an obligation to American citizens obviously and people who are

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Speaker 3: here to meet their everyday needs and challenges, which is why,

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Speaker 3: for example, we have done the work in the last

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Speaker 3: four years of bringing down the cost of prescription medication,

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Speaker 3: prescription medication. What we have done that has been about

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Speaker 3: putting seventeen billion dollars in our HBCUs. I am proud

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Speaker 3: to be the first HBCU Vice President of the United States.

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Speaker 3: I intend to be the first HBCU President of the

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Speaker 3: United States. Those resources are about sending them to centers

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Speaker 3: of academic excellence that I know them to be. The

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Speaker 3: work that I continue to do is about increasing access

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Speaker 3: the opportunity for home ownership. Knowing that Black people are

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Speaker 3: forty percent less likely to be homeowners in America. We

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Speaker 3: So part of my plan is that we're going to

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Speaker 3: going to do to increase housing supply in America, knowing

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Speaker 3: that that's one of the reasons that rents and housing

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Speaker 3: And I give these examples, and there are many more

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Speaker 3: I will do to extend the child tax credit to

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Speaker 3: our families all have a natural desire to parent their

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Speaker 2: You know, you said we can do it all, but

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Speaker 2: can we because you know Tupac famously said, you know,

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Speaker 2: we got money for war, but can't feed the poor, right,

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Speaker 2: And I saw President Obama say last week that you know,

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Speaker 2: you really shouldn't expect, you know, a president to rid

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Speaker 2: fair to tell people, hey, we can do it all,

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Speaker 2: Because that's when people get disappointed when things don't happen.

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Speaker 3: But I think President Obama is absolutely correct. But it

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Speaker 3: I was Vice president, I pushed that we would do

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Speaker 3: it during our first year, and we reduced child black

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Speaker 3: We can do that. My plan that is about building

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Speaker 3: up home ownership in the black community, we can do that.

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Speaker 3: My work that has been about increasing access to capital,

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Speaker 3: bringing billions more dollars into our community banks, which I've

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Speaker 3: done as Vice president through cooperation and partnership with some

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Speaker 3: done that. So we should never sit back and say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to vote because everything hasn't been solved.

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Speaker 3: I share a desire that everything should be solved by

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Speaker 3: the way I think it is what we should all want,

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Speaker 3: but that that shouldn't stand in the way of us.

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Speaker 3: Also known we can participate in a process that's about

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Speaker 3: improving things. And by voting in this election, you have

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Speaker 3: two choices, or you don't vote, but you have two

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Speaker 2: The other is about fascism.

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Speaker 6: Madam Vice President Charlemagne, thank y'all for being in Detroit tonight.

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Speaker 6: Recently, a Madam Vice President by one of Trump's surrogates

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Speaker 3: So first of all, that allegation, of course, is coming

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Speaker 2: There you go to make sure you get that right. Now.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's just not true. And listen again, you said

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Speaker 3: Ask Donald Trump what his plan is for Black America.

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Speaker 3: Ask him what you know. I'll tell you what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know what he says he'll do, terminate the Constitution

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's take a question from talking about HI.

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Speaker 3: So again, the work that I have done through my

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Speaker 3: Plus, we couldn't get the votes in Congress. There's a

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Speaker 3: Part of the work that I'm doing as a candidate

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the frustration comes from people

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Speaker 2: How do you convince Republican centers, as you just said, but.

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Speaker 3: But well, part of it is that their constituents are

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Speaker 3: And this is the point. This gets back to the

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Speaker 2: Zeke. This is my man, is Zeke. He's the president

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Speaker 2: just your agenda for the black community period. Zeke, what's up? Brother?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 8: Madam Vice Prayerident Charlotte Magne the God what up? Don't

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Speaker 8: Welcome to Detroit. I like to say the real Detroit

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Speaker 8: I'm having worked in over thirty five cities of the

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Speaker 8: and America is one of the biggest corporations in the world.

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Speaker 8: With that being said, I'm here on behalf of the

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Speaker 8: business of the black community. With all that Black Americans

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Speaker 8: have been through and contribute to the success of America,

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Speaker 8: I feel that there should be an in depth investigation

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Speaker 8: or evaluation of the lack of resources and current living

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Speaker 8: conditions in black communities nationwide. My caution to you is

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Speaker 8: what's your stance on reparations. We all know that America

446
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Speaker 8: became great, you know, off the backs of free black labor.

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Speaker 8: How progressive are you on making it a priority and

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Speaker 8: right in America's wrongs. It's understood that you are running

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Speaker 8: for president for all people of America, asking for specifics

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Speaker 8: for black communities, doesn't mean don't do for others. But

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Speaker 8: Black Americans are heavily asked to vote Democrat in every

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Speaker 8: election for over half a century, with very little in return.

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Speaker 8: What are your plans to address these very important issues

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Speaker 8: and change that narrative?

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Speaker 2: Make you, Zeke?

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, thank you, and thank you for your work.

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Speaker 3: So to your point, yes, I am running to be

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Speaker 3: a president for all Americans. That being said, I do

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Speaker 3: have clear eyes about the disparities that exist and the

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Speaker 3: context in which they exist, meaning history. To your point,

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Speaker 3: so my agenda, well, first of all, on the point

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Speaker 3: of reparations, it has to be studied, There's no question

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Speaker 3: about that, and I've been very clear about that position.

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Speaker 3: In terms of my immediate plan, I will tell you

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Speaker 3: a few of the following one as it relates to

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Speaker 3: the economy, which is a lot of what you have addressed. Look,

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the middle class. My mother, you know,

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Speaker 3: worked hard, raised me and my sister, and by the

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Speaker 3: time I was in high school, she was able to

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Speaker 3: afford our first home. I know what it means for

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Speaker 3: an individual and a family to have home ownership. I

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Speaker 3: also know in the context of history. Nobody got forty

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Speaker 3: acres and a mule. We have a history of a

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Speaker 3: number of things, including redlining. Detroit knows it well, a

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Speaker 3: history of, for example, something that still exists that I've

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Speaker 3: worked on to address, which is racial bias and home appraisals.

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Speaker 3: And we know home ownership is Black families are forty

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Speaker 3: percent less likely to be homeowners than others, and that

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Speaker 3: home ownership is one of the surest ways to build

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Speaker 3: intergenerational wealth. Right because when you own a home, that's

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Speaker 3: when if your child says, Daddy, I want to go

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Speaker 3: to college, you can say, sweetheart, don't have to take

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Speaker 3: out a loan. I'll take some equity out of the house.

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Speaker 3: Or if your child says I want to start a

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Speaker 3: same a small business, same point. Right. So my includes

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Speaker 3: making sure that for first time home buyers they have

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Speaker 3: a twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance to just

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Speaker 3: get their foot in the door, because we know folks

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Speaker 3: will work hard, they'll save and pay that monthly mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Second point is to bring down the cost of housing generally,

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Speaker 3: because one of the issues is we have a housing

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Speaker 3: supply shortage, and so that's about working with the private

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Speaker 3: section in terms of our small businesses, which are part

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Speaker 3: of the backbone of the economy of the Black community

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Speaker 3: and part of the backbone of America's economy. Writ large.

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Speaker 3: My second mother, woman who helped raise us, was a

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Speaker 3: small business owner. I know who our small business owners are,

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Speaker 3: and I have convened black small business owners way before

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Speaker 3: I was running for president in my official office at

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Speaker 3: the White House, to talk with young entrepreneurs, mostly young

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Speaker 3: about the work that they are doing that is about

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Speaker 3: clean energy, work, technology, as well as the traditional you know,

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Speaker 3: whether it be a barbershop or arrest. One of the

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Speaker 3: big issues facing black entrepreneurs and black small businesses is

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Speaker 3: access to capital. Because unlike my opponent who got handed

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Speaker 3: four hundred million dollars on a silver platter and then

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Speaker 3: file bankruptcy six times, don't forget that calls himself a businessman,

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Speaker 3: not everybody has access to the capital they But we

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Speaker 3: know in the community we do not lack for ambition, aspirations, dreams,

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Speaker 3: hard work, ethic and so my work has been as

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Speaker 3: vice president to increase billions of dollars into community banks,

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Speaker 3: and as vice president, part of that work will also

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Speaker 3: be to change the tax deduction for startup small businesses

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Speaker 3: from five thousand dollars to fifty thousand dollars because nobody

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Speaker 3: can start a small business on five thousand dollars, and

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Speaker 3: if you don't otherwise have intergenerational wealth, how are you

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Speaker 3: going to be able to do it? Second point on

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Speaker 3: small business is this I'm going to do. Basically, it's

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Speaker 3: a program that is about a twenty thousand dollars unrefundable

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Speaker 3: loan to a certain to basically businesses that don't have

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Speaker 3: access to wealth and don't have those relationships, which is

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Speaker 3: going to directly impact a lot of small, black owned

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Speaker 3: small businesses. That twenty thousand dollars non refundable loan is

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Speaker 3: what would help somebody if they need to buy equipment,

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Speaker 3: right if they need to buy an extra chalk, depending

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Speaker 3: on what that business is, which we know that's a

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Speaker 3: big part of what holds back our small businesses, just

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Speaker 3: having enough capital to actually pay for the things that

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Speaker 3: allow you to then put your hard work into play

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Speaker 3: to actually grow your business. The other piece, and this

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Speaker 3: is something that is critically important, is to see black

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Speaker 3: folks and in particular black men, as a whole human

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Speaker 3: being and understand that we are talking about sons. We

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Speaker 3: are talking about fathers, we are talking about grandsons, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about grandparents, we're talking about uncles. And so I

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Speaker 3: say that as a preface to say to other things,

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Speaker 3: and then I'll keep going one to deal with. I

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Speaker 3: mean you like that, you got that. To deal with

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Speaker 3: health care for black people and black men in particular,

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Speaker 3: we know that we still have a lot of work

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Speaker 3: to do to increase, for example, the high risks that

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Speaker 3: we have for calling cancer for prostate cancer right, and

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Speaker 3: to increase screenings and to make sure that people are

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Speaker 3: actually going to get the screenings, not to mention the

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Speaker 3: higher risk for sickle cell. So part of my agenda

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Speaker 3: is about what we will do to deal with and

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Speaker 3: highlight what we've got to do to focus on black

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Speaker 3: men's health. And then a similar point is this of

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Speaker 3: caregivers are men, and we know culturally we take care

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Speaker 3: of our elders, and we have a lot of men

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Speaker 3: in the community who are in the Sandwich generation who

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Speaker 3: are trying to take care of their young kink kids

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Speaker 3: and take care of an elder parent or relative. And

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Speaker 3: it's overwhelming for people to be able to do both,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people have to end up thinking

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: about leaving their job to just do it. So my

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00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: plan is this one. In order for people to then

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00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: afford assistance for hiring health care home health care, they

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00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: basically have to go broke to be eligible for Medicaid.

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Speaker 3: My plan is this, let's have Medicare, and this is

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Speaker 3: I've mapped it out and we can make it work.

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Speaker 3: Medicare cover the cost of home health care for seniors,

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Speaker 3: which means that you are looking at individuals in the

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Speaker 3: context of their whole family. Because what we know is

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Speaker 3: again understanding culture, understanding the reality lots of people are

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Speaker 3: having to leave work in order to do that. So

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Speaker 3: these are some examples of my agenda, and overall, it

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Speaker 3: is an agenda that understands, by the way, because we've

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Speaker 3: talked already a lot about criminal justice, that the needs

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00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: of the black community are not just about criminal justice.

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Speaker 2: We need that money.

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Speaker 3: It's about yeah, because here's the thing. We have brought

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Speaker 3: down black unemployment. I said this earlier to the one

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Speaker 3: of the lowest levels in history. But I'm very clear

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Speaker 3: the community is not going to stand up in applaud

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00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: just because everybody has a job. That should be a baseline.

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Speaker 3: My agenda is about tapping into the ambitions and the aspirations,

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Speaker 3: knowing that folks want to have an opportunity. If they want,

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Speaker 3: they should have a meaningful opportunity to build wealth, including

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Speaker 3: intergenerational wealth, and that's my agenda.

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Speaker 2: You know a couple of things that you said, appreciate you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Think there were a couple of

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Speaker 2: things that you said that people would say, we're talking points,

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Speaker 2: but it's really just your story, even though they are

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Speaker 2: becoming your greatest hits when you talk about the middle

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Speaker 2: class and your godmother being a small business owner. But

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Speaker 2: that's just your story.

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Speaker 3: It's my story. Look, I've been in this race seventy days.

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Speaker 3: Some people are just getting to know me. Other people

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00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: have known me, and I owe it. Listen. I feel

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Speaker 3: very strongly I need to earn every vote, which is

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Speaker 3: why I'm here having this candid conversation with you and

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Speaker 3: your listeners. I have to earn people's support and I

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Speaker 3: am working to do that.

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Speaker 2: Before we go to another talk back call, I want

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Speaker 2: to say they were the time I had a politician

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Speaker 2: tell me once that if you're running for a national election,

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Speaker 2: it's bad electoral strategy to say you are going to

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Speaker 2: do things specifically for black people, which is why a

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Speaker 2: lot of politicians don't speak directly to their plans for

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Speaker 2: black people. Is that a thing?

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that's true. I think that what

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Speaker 3: is true is that I am running to be a

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Speaker 3: president for everybody. But I am clear eight about the

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Speaker 3: history and the disparities that exist for specific communities, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to shy away from that. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that my policies aren't going to benefit everybody, because

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Speaker 3: they are. Everything I just talked about will benefit everybody.

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Speaker 3: Small business owners, whatever their race, their age, their gender,

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Speaker 3: their geographic location, are going to benefit from the fact

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Speaker 3: that I'm going to extend tax deductions to fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Every first time homeowner, wherever they are, whatever their race,

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Speaker 3: will benefit. If they are a first time home buyer

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Speaker 3: with a twenty five thousand dollars down payment of sixes.

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Speaker 3: Everyone is going to benefit from my plan to extend

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Speaker 3: the child tax credit to six thousand dollars for the

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Speaker 3: first year of their child's life. That's going to benefit everybody.

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Speaker 3: But I do realize again that on the issue of

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Speaker 3: home ownership, for example, black people are forty percent less

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Speaker 3: likely to own a home.

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Speaker 2: So do you you know, do you feel like President

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Speaker 2: Obama stepped on your roll out because I know you've

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Speaker 2: been working on this blackmail agenda for a long time

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Speaker 2: and you've been doing the outreach, you know, which was

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Speaker 2: the Opportunity Economy tour and things like that. But then

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Speaker 2: he made the statements that he made last week. So

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Speaker 2: everybody thinks this is a reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, I mean you just have

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Speaker 3: to no, obviously not. I've been doing this for quite

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Speaker 3: some time, including before I was running for president.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to talk about Geddy.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 5: I'm Bobby from Georgia and I have a question for

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Speaker 5: Kabl Harris. Could you please respond to Trump's claim that

635
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Speaker 5: he's going to use the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen

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Speaker 5: ninety eight to round up immigrants if he wins the election.

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Speaker 5: This law was last used to put Asian Americans in

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Speaker 5: internment camps during World War Two, and I have a

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Speaker 5: sneaking suspicion that if Trump wins, He's going to use

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Speaker 5: this law to put anyone that doesn't look white in camps.

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Speaker 9: And I'm scared.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you've hit on a really important point and

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: expressed it, I think so well, which is he is

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00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: achieving his intended effect to make you scared. He is

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Speaker 3: running full time on a campaign that is about instilling fear,

646
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: not about hope, not about optimism, not about the future,

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Speaker 3: but about fear. And so this is yet another example.

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Speaker 3: Look what he did and saying that those legal imgrants

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Speaker 3: in Springfield, Ohio were eating their pets. He and by

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Speaker 3: the way, the hypocrisy of it abounds because on the

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Speaker 3: issue of immigration, let's be clear, some of the most

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Speaker 3: conservative members of the United States Congress, working with others,

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Speaker 3: came up with a border security bill which was the

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Speaker 3: strongest toughest border security bill in a long long time.

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Speaker 3: It would have put fifteen hundred more border agents at

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Speaker 3: the border. It would have reduced the flow of fentanyl

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Speaker 3: into our country, which is killing people all over our

658
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Speaker 3: country of every race and background. It would have allowed

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Speaker 3: us to do more work on prosecuting transnational criminal organizations,

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Speaker 3: which I have done in my career. Trump got word

661
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Speaker 3: that that bill was afoot, knew it would fix a problem,

662
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Speaker 3: and told his buddies in Congress to kill the bill.

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Speaker 3: And you know why, because he would prefer to run

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Speaker 3: on a problem instead of fixing a problem, and he's

665
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Speaker 3: running his campaign in a way that he does these

666
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Speaker 3: rallies where people by the way, and does these rallies

667
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Speaker 3: to try and and still fear around an issue where

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Speaker 3: he actually could be part of a solution, but he

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Speaker 3: chose not to because he prefers to run on a

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Speaker 3: problem instead of fix a problem. And we've got to

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Speaker 3: call it out and see it for what it is.

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Speaker 2: But doesn't the Biden administration have to take some blame

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Speaker 2: for the border though a lot of the blame, because

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Speaker 2: I mean, the first three years, y'all did get a

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Speaker 2: lot of things wrong with the border.

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Speaker 3: Charlemagne, within hours of being inaugurated, the first bill we passed,

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Speaker 3: before we did the Inflation Reduction Act, before we did

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Speaker 3: the bipart is An Infrastructure Act, before we did the

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Speaker 3: Safer Communities Act to deal with gun violence, first thing

680
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Speaker 3: we dropped was a bill to fix the broken immigration system,

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Speaker 3: which by the way, Trump did not fix when he

682
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Speaker 3: was president, and you can look at every step along

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Speaker 3: the way. We then tightened up the asylum application process.

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Speaker 3: We then worked with what we needed to do to

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Speaker 3: secure ports of entry. We did a number of things,

686
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Speaker 3: including what we did to try and get that border

687
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Speaker 3: security bill passed, and then also an executive order that

688
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Speaker 3: has actually reduced significantly the number of illegal crossings and

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Speaker 3: tightened up what needs to happen in between ports of entry.

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Speaker 3: But no, we've been working on it ever since. But

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Speaker 3: but here's here's here's what what has to happen. Congress

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Speaker 3: has to act to fix the immigration system, and it

693
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Speaker 3: has been broken for a long time. Congress has to act.

694
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Speaker 3: But it does not help. When finally a bipartisan group

695
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Speaker 3: got together to fix it and Donald Trump told them,

696
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Speaker 3: hold on, don't do that because it won't It won't

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Speaker 3: help me politically.

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Speaker 2: Why do you allow him to call you the borders

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Speaker 2: are when that's not even your.

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Speaker 3: I'm not giving him permission for that, But.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't push back on it because that

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Speaker 2: wasn't you. That's not that wasn't your role.

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Speaker 3: With fact checkers have made that clear. Look, if I

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Speaker 3: responded to every name he called me, I wouldn't be

705
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Speaker 3: focused on the things that actually helped the American people.

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Speaker 3: And that's my focus.

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Speaker 2: That is true. Before we go to talk about I

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Speaker 2: want to say something else. I don't feel like the

709
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Speaker 2: Biden administration has treated Trump like a real threat to democracy.

710
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Speaker 2: And that's why America doesn't realize how much of a

711
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Speaker 2: threat he is. It's one thing to say it, but

712
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Speaker 2: you have to act on it. Don't you believe Merrick

713
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Speaker 2: Garland should have moved faster to put Donald Trump in

714
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Speaker 2: prison for leading an attempt to cool his country.

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Speaker 3: The Department Justice, it has independence in terms of how

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Speaker 3: they make those decisions, as they should. And let's also

717
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Speaker 3: be very clear, don no, well, no, Donald Trump has

718
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Speaker 3: been very clear that he would weaponize the Department of

719
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Speaker 3: Justice against his political lanemies. He has been very clear

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Speaker 3: that he would take out the independent folks who are

721
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Speaker 3: in there and put in there instead his loyalists. So

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Speaker 3: I understand again you talk about because this brings it

723
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Speaker 3: back to exactly your point about threats to our democracy.

724
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Speaker 3: Donald Donald Trump would go into the Department of Justice

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Speaker 3: and manipulate it in such a way that it would

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Speaker 3: be used as a weapon against his political enemies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna lock y'all up if he gets back

728
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Speaker 2: and over.

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Speaker 3: Well, by the way he's gonna you should look at

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Speaker 3: his words. I don't think that you, as a journalist

731
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Speaker 3: should feel so so about the journalists judges others, And

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Speaker 3: you know who does that. Dictators do that, Other countries

733
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Speaker 3: do that, Which is say that you're gonna send as

734
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Speaker 3: he has the military to go and and suppress peaceful protesters.

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Speaker 3: That happens in other countries. That's not supposed to happen

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Speaker 3: in America. So do understand when this man says what

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Speaker 3: he says, how that would play out in real time?

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Speaker 2: So why is it okay for him to say he'll

739
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Speaker 2: lock up his political opponents, but it's not okay for

740
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Speaker 2: y'all to say he should be in prison when he's

741
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Speaker 2: actually committed crimes.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have been very clear. I think that the

743
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Speaker 3: court should handle that, and I'm gonna handle November.

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Speaker 2: The court should handle that. Okay, let's go to talkback, Eddie.

745
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Speaker 2: What'll we got.

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Speaker 9: Our men and women in the military are sent to

747
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Speaker 9: foreign countries to fight for their freedom, win or lose.

748
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Speaker 9: Donald Trump has promised to seek revenge. My question is

749
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Speaker 9: will our military be there to fight for our freedom

750
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Speaker 9: after the election? Should Trump start another insurrection?

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Speaker 3: Well, you raise a profound point that is very much

752
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Speaker 3: a part of this election cycle in terms of what

753
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: the American people have a choice right now. So January sixth,

754
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump incited a violent mob to try and undo

755
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Speaker 3: the will of the people and undo the results of

756
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Speaker 3: a free and fair election. That violent mom attacked the

757
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Speaker 3: United States Capital. Over one hundred and forty law enforcement

758
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Speaker 3: officers were injured, some of them were killed, and he

759
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Speaker 3: has said since then that there will be a bloodbath

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Speaker 3: after this election. He has, on your point about the military,

761
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Speaker 3: referred to members of our military as suckers and losers,

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Speaker 3: which is why, by the way, do see the number

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Speaker 3: of military leaders who worked under his administration who are

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Speaker 3: supporting me. And I will point out what everyone knows,

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Speaker 3: which is that the people who worked the closest with

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump when he was president, worked with him in

767
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Speaker 3: the oval office, saw him at play in the situation room.

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Speaker 3: His chief of staff, two secretaries of Defense, is national

769
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Speaker 3: security advisor, and his former vice president have all said

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Speaker 3: he is dangerous and unfit to serve. Mark Milly, the

771
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Speaker 3: former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, most recently

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Speaker 3: articulated exactly that point. And again, you know, here's Charlemagne.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I think is really ironic,

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Speaker 3: but at play Donald Trump, through his his his way

775
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Speaker 3: of trying to name call and demean and divide, tries

776
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Speaker 3: to project as though those things are a sign of strength,

777
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Speaker 3: when in fact the man is really quite weak. He's weak.

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Speaker 3: It's a sign of weakness that you want to please

779
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: dictators and seek their flattery and favor. It's a sign

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Speaker 3: of weakness that you would demean America's military and America's

781
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Speaker 3: service members. It's a sign of weakness that you don't

782
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Speaker 3: have the courage to stand up for the Constitution of

783
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Speaker 3: the United States and the principles upon which it stands.

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Speaker 3: This man is weak and he is unfit.

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Speaker 2: So why is everybody sitting around acting like Donald Trump

786
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Speaker 2: isn't going to a plan to steal this election if

787
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Speaker 2: you lose, like, you know, Republican officials won't certify the

788
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Speaker 2: results of the election. We know is Donald Trump Supreme Court?

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Speaker 2: Why are people acting like this is going to be

790
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Speaker 2: a free in fair election and he won't try to

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Speaker 2: steal it.

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Speaker 3: Well, but those are two different points, Okay, So it

793
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Speaker 3: will be a free and fair election if we the

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Speaker 3: American people stand up for that. You know, I see

795
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Speaker 3: it as this. I think that their democracy has its

796
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: like two points of nature. One, there's a fact about

797
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Speaker 3: a democracy that when it is intact, the strength that

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Speaker 3: it possesses in terms of the protection of people's individual

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Speaker 3: rights and liberties. When a democracy is intact, we protect

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Speaker 3: your rights and your liberties. Strength democracy is also very fragile.

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Speaker 3: It will only be as strong as our willingness we

802
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: the people to fight for it, and not as much

803
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Speaker 3: as anything is what's that plan in this election? Fight

804
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: for our democracy? Flawed though it is imperfect, though it

805
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: may be because there are very two real paths right now.

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Speaker 3: The man has told you he has to terminate the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: The man has told you all these things about his

808
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Speaker 3: disregard and disrespect for your freedoms and liberty, including the

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Speaker 3: right of a woman to make decisions about her own body.

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Speaker 3: And he hand selected three members of the United States

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court with the intention they would do exactly what

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Speaker 3: they did. One out of three women in America lives

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Speaker 3: in a state with the Trump abortion band. You know,

814
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Speaker 3: every state except Virginia in the South has an abortion band.

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Speaker 3: You know where the majority of black women live in

816
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Speaker 3: the South, in those same states that have some of

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Speaker 3: the highest rates of black maternal mortality. And they want

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Speaker 3: to strut around talking about this is in the interest

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Speaker 3: of women and children, and they've been silent on an

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Speaker 3: issue like black maternal mortality. But I know that people

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Speaker 3: are aware and clear eyed, and I do believe that

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Speaker 3: on election day and early voting in Michigan starts in

823
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Speaker 3: four days, people are going to go to the poems

824
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Speaker 3: and they're going to vote to stand up for these

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Speaker 3: principles and to stand up for their rights to freedom

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Speaker 3: and liberty and to live and just be free to be.

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Speaker 2: I believe that I want to bring in my guy

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Speaker 2: Ice weear vessel. He's very politically engaged. I want to

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Speaker 2: ask you a question why he's coming in this quick question.

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Speaker 2: There's a room in that Janet Jackson is mad at

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Speaker 2: you because you prosecuted her brother, the late Great Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: That's that's on the internet. Cleared that up for people.

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Speaker 3: That's just not true on either account. She's I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I have not talked

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Speaker 3: to her, but it's certainly it's not true about her brother,

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Speaker 3: that's all.

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Speaker 10: Charlotte Manne, what's up, madam Vice President? How are you

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Speaker 10: doing today? As with Sandy Troit?

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Speaker 6: What up?

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Speaker 11: Though?

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Speaker 10: So yesterday I read that there's a new opportunity agenda

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Speaker 10: a plan for Black men, which includes a proposal of

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Speaker 10: forgivable loans up to twenty thousand dollars for one million

844
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Speaker 10: black entrepreneurs. What would you say to the people that

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Speaker 10: will consider the timing of this proposal as political timing,

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Speaker 10: And how would you speak to the sentiment that support

847
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Speaker 10: for black men is only sought out during election cycles

848
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Speaker 10: and feels that building trust requires consistent engagement and genuine

849
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Speaker 10: investment into the community outside of election periods and political

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Speaker 10: benefits for politicians, and may view that some people in

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Speaker 10: the Democrat Party use Black Americans to play identity politics.

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, thank you for your question for

853
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Speaker 3: being here. I've been in this race about seventy days.

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Speaker 3: You can look at all my work before those seventy

855
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Speaker 3: days to know this. What I'm talking about right now

856
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: is not new and is not for the sake of

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Speaker 3: winning this election. This is about a long standing commitment,

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Speaker 3: including the work that I've done as Vice president and

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Speaker 3: when I was Senator and before that. In fact, a

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Speaker 3: lot of what I'm doing that is about my economic

861
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Speaker 3: agenda and opportunity economy was born out of the work

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Speaker 3: I did as Vice president before that as Senator. More

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Speaker 3: most recently, to get access to capital for our entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 3: The work that I did in the Senate was about

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Speaker 3: getting a couple billion more dollars into our community banks,

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Speaker 3: and then building on that. When I became Vice President,

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Speaker 3: I created it. It's called the Economic Opportunity Council, bringing

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Speaker 3: in some of the biggest banks and technology companies to

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Speaker 3: put more into the community banks. And I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tell you one of the reasons why, because I have

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Speaker 3: been aware for years black entrepreneurs only get one percent

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Speaker 3: of venture capital funding. Of all the venture capital funding,

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Speaker 3: only one percent goes to black entrepreneurs. We don't have

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Speaker 3: the same rates of access to capital, be it through

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Speaker 3: family or through connections. Which is why I've done the

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Speaker 3: work of put billions more dollars and working to put

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Speaker 3: billions more dollars into community banks, which go right directly

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Speaker 3: to the community. My work around the twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: is building on that and understanding that you know, I convened,

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Speaker 3: for example, I said this earlier a group of black entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 3: way before I was running for president, in my official

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Speaker 3: office at the White House, to hear some of the

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Speaker 3: obstacles that they were facing. And one of them was

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Speaker 3: what we need to do around getting folks the help

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Speaker 3: to just be able to buy the equipment they need

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Speaker 3: to run their business. And oftentime, we find that when

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Speaker 3: black entrepreneurs and black people apply for credit, they're denied

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Speaker 3: at a higher rate than others. We have also seen

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Speaker 3: and the data proves this that all of those the

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Speaker 3: realities also tend to dissuade black folks and black entrepreneurs

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Speaker 3: in particularly from even applying for credit. So my point

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Speaker 3: is to work on every way that we can approach

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Speaker 3: the issue to encourage people and to invest in their ambition,

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Speaker 3: because I know the ambition is there, I know the

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Speaker 3: talent is there, I know the innovation is there, and

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Speaker 3: certainly the hard work ethic. So this is not new

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Speaker 3: work for me.

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Speaker 2: And just speak to the American Rescue Plan too, because

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Speaker 2: I mean tens of millions of dollars. I know small

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Speaker 2: businesses in North Carolina, that small black businesses that got

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Speaker 2: tens of million dollars because of that. You speak to that, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that was from the first time, from when

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Speaker 3: we first came in the American Rescue Plan, the work

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Speaker 3: that we have done, that the Infrastructure Bill, I mean

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Speaker 3: part of that is, we made a decision that we

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Speaker 3: were going to increase the number of federal contracts that

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Speaker 3: go to historically underrepresented businesses. This was way before I

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Speaker 3: was running with this years ago, so this is not

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Speaker 3: new work.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to feature.

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Speaker 11: On several occasions recently, John Lemon has stated that there's

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Speaker 11: a large group of black men who believed Donald Trump

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Speaker 11: sent them a personal check during COVID because his name

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Speaker 11: was on it versus it coming from the government as

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Speaker 11: a stimulus check. Can you provide some clarification on this.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you raised that. So so here's what happened.

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Speaker 3: A majority Democratic Congress fought to get those stimulus checks out,

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Speaker 3: fought against resistance by the Trump administration, and one because

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Speaker 3: we had a majority of Democrats in Congress, and that's

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Speaker 3: why those checks went out. As we all know and

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Speaker 3: grew up learning, Congress holds the purse strings. It was

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Speaker 3: Congress that made that decision, and then Donald Trump, never

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Speaker 3: being one to pass up an opportunity to give himself

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Speaker 3: credit when no credit is due, put his name on

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Speaker 3: those checks, and sadly, it resulted in people thinking Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump was responsible for and directly responsible for putting money

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Speaker 3: in their pocket, when in fact it was a Democratic

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Speaker 3: majority Congress that was responsible for those checks going out.

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Speaker 2: Why is it hard for Democrats to message their wins

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Speaker 2: on the economy? Like since World War Two, the economy

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Speaker 2: has done better under a Democrat president. This is just

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Speaker 2: a historical fact. But for some reason, the narrative is

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Speaker 2: that the economy does better under Republicans. Why do people

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Speaker 2: believe that and why don't Democrats push back on that

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Speaker 2: narrative more?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we I think that part of the

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Speaker 3: issue is that Democrats probably talk about it more in

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Speaker 3: terms of what we are doing for people rather than

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Speaker 3: the economy, when in fact, when you do for people,

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Speaker 3: the economy grows. And you are absolutely right, Charlemagne, you

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Speaker 3: will look at the growth of the economy under in

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Speaker 3: compare democratic and Republican administrations, Democrats have been accelerated economic

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Speaker 3: growth my plan, for example. Okay, so some of the

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Speaker 3: smartest economists in the country have reviewed and compared my

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Speaker 3: plan to Donald Trump's plans for the economy, from Goldman

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Speaker 3: Sachs to Moody's to sixteen Nobel Laureates and even most

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Speaker 3: recently the Wall Street Journal, and in comparing our two plans.

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Speaker 3: The net result is my plans will strengthen the economy.

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Speaker 3: His plans will weaken the economy. Their reports come back

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Speaker 3: and include the fact that Donald Trump's plans for the

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Speaker 3: economy would accelerate inflation and invite a recession by the

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Speaker 3: middle of next year. My plans would strengthen the economy

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Speaker 3: as a whole. You look at under what we've been doing.

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Speaker 3: You look at the stock market is one of the

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Speaker 3: strongest it's ever been, Wages of outpaced inflation. Inflation is

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Speaker 3: going down to I think it's now the most recent

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Speaker 3: numbers two point four percent. So but those you know,

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Speaker 3: nobody wants to hear an econ one on one lecture, right,

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Speaker 3: But the reality of it, to your point is that

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Speaker 3: under democratic rule, the economy gets strengthened. And certainly when

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Speaker 3: you look at my plan for my presidency, it will

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Speaker 3: strengthen the economy and it will help people. And as

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Speaker 3: per the conversation we've been having today, perhaps the issue

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Speaker 3: is that I'm gonna always think about it in the

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Speaker 3: context of how am I helping working people? How am

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Speaker 3: I helping families? How am I helping people in the

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Speaker 3: middle class, How am I helping people who have been

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Speaker 3: without access having access. That's how I talk about it.

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Speaker 3: But my plan is about strengthening the economy. And I

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Speaker 3: know when you strengthen the economy, that's how you do it.

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Speaker 3: You do it by investing in the middle class. Let

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Speaker 3: me tell you the contrast. Donald Trump thinks about the

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Speaker 3: economy based on what he has done and will do.

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Speaker 3: Cutting taxes for billionaires in the biggest corporations. That's how

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Speaker 3: he thinks about the economy. He thinks about the economy,

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Speaker 3: not about middle class people trying to not just get

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Speaker 3: by but get ahead. No, he wants to to stop

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Speaker 3: Medicare from being able to negotiate drug prices down from

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Speaker 3: the big pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 2: We got a couple more questions. I want to get more,

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Speaker 2: man Eric Thompson here, because we only got like a

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Speaker 2: few more minutes. But I do want to say President

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Speaker 2: Obama was out there last week waving his finger at

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Speaker 2: black men. When are Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton going

985
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Speaker 2: waveday finger at white women? Went up, Bill Clinton and

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden going wave their finger at white men. Because

987
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Speaker 2: fifty two percent of white women voted for Trump in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, fifty five percent voted for Trump in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: They all voted against their own interests when their finger

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Speaker 2: waving gonna start at them.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for highlighting that I do have the

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Speaker 3: support of over two hundred Republicans who worked for various administrations,

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Speaker 3: including everyone going back to Ronald Reagan to the Bushes,

994
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Speaker 3: to John McCain and Mitt Romney, and including Liz Channing.

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Speaker 3: I'm very proud to have her support. And I believe

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Speaker 3: that they who many of them who may have voted

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Speaker 3: for Trump before, are supporting me because, as they know,

998
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Speaker 3: the stakes are so high in terms of our very

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Speaker 3: democracy and rule of law, and.

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Speaker 2: So the finger wagon should start today a tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what is happening is that we are

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Speaker 3: all working on reminding people of what is at stake,

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Speaker 3: and that is very important.

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Speaker 2: Eric, real quick. We only got a few minutes, only.

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Speaker 12: Got a few minutes. Thank you, Madame Vice President for

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Speaker 12: having me. Thank you, Charlotte and the god h So.

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Speaker 12: As an employee of a mission driven nonprofit bank, I

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Speaker 12: appreciate the efforts in that bank I work with investor Trade,

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Speaker 12: but as chief storyteller to City Detroit, I spent a

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Speaker 12: lot of time dispelling information about the city of Detroit.

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Speaker 12: And so I'm sure for those of us who are

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Speaker 12: like me, if Donald Trump doesn't like the trade so much,

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Speaker 12: he's not welcome back now.

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Speaker 3: But okay, I don't want to interrupt. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what you're talking about. Okay, go on, but you.

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Speaker 2: Can get into it.

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to say that we know that there's

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Speaker 12: been a lot of conversation about growing the middle class,

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Speaker 12: but black men have been taking out of workforce for

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Speaker 12: a myriad of systemic reasons, from mass in corporation to

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Speaker 12: racial bias, fear mongering. We know that black men are

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Speaker 12: not criminals, they are criminalized, and that has taken black

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Speaker 12: men out of the home, has taken wealth out of

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Speaker 12: the home. And so because especially in the city with

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Speaker 12: such high poverty, I've heard a lot about middle class,

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Speaker 12: but I would love to hear more about stare stepping

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Speaker 12: from poverty into middle class so they can take advantage

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Speaker 12: of the opportunities and the policies you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and that's real. So, for example, the child

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Speaker 3: tax credit, when we did it when I first became

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Speaker 3: Vice president, we cut black child poverty by half. And

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Speaker 3: you know, when you deal with poverty for a child.

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Speaker 3: That's about the whole family. Right. When you look at

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Speaker 3: the work that we have done that has been about

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Speaker 3: dealing with prescription medication for our seniors, Black people are

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Speaker 3: sixty percent more likely to get diagnosed with diabetes and

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Speaker 3: have And when you look at what people are in

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Speaker 3: terms of on the or to bankruptcy because of medical

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Speaker 3: bills and medical debt, that's very real. So us capping

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Speaker 3: the cost of something like insulin and prescription medication, not

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Speaker 3: to mention the work that I've been doing to ensure

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Speaker 3: that medical debt does not get included on your credit score.

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Speaker 3: Because medical debt comes about because of a medical emergency,

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Speaker 3: nobody invites it upon themselves. And back to the point

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Speaker 3: about history and the reality of life. We also know

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Speaker 3: the real disparities around access to meaningful health care, which

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Speaker 3: are more likely to result in people facing chronic illness

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Speaker 3: and in medical emergency. So my work has been and

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Speaker 3: included working to get medical debt not beyond your credit

1050
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Speaker 3: score so that that thing you did not invite upon

1051
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Speaker 3: yourself would not be the reason that you can't get

1052
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Speaker 3: a lease on an apartment or anything else. We have

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Speaker 3: to deal with child poverty. We have to deal with poverty, period,

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Speaker 3: and there are many specific ways to do it, including

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Speaker 3: dealing with getting resources into the community that alleviate the

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Speaker 3: burdens that hold people down. But back to Detroit, can

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Speaker 3: so can you imagine you go to a city and

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Speaker 3: you say you want the votes of those people, and

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Speaker 3: then you disparage the city. And that's what he did

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Speaker 3: in Detroit. And he has a tendency to mention cities

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Speaker 3: that either have a historically black majority population or a

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Speaker 3: black mayor.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and that's what he did. He only did

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Speaker 2: that to Detroit because Detroit is seventy eight percent black

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't want America to look like that. Madam

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Speaker 2: Vice President. Thank you. We gotta do this again.

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Speaker 3: We're done.

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Speaker 2: We only according to iHeart. I just want to keep going.

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Speaker 2: I got more questions for you, but thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you man, Thank you.

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