Speaker 1: From the King of sports books comes the key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Arlan Decker. So, Jerry, the preseason is
Speaker 1: finally over. And guess what, my friend, you made the cut.
Speaker 1: You made it. We're keeping you for the season for
Speaker 1: the next five months plus, We've got very meaningful NFL
Speaker 1: games every weekend look forward to, which means a lot
Speaker 1: of bets to be made. What do you think You're excited?
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm glad I made the team. My hard knocks.
Speaker 1: Of the first three episodes of Unleashed, I didn't get
Speaker 1: called to the coach's office to bring my playbooks. So
Speaker 1: I'm here, And yeah, doing this show is amazing. And
Speaker 1: we haven't even started to have like meaningful content to discuss,
Speaker 1: like been break down and get into were just like waiting.
Speaker 1: So this is great. Yes, preseasons over, thank thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be rude when I ask this,
Speaker 1: but how old are you? Um? Forty two years old?
Speaker 1: Right today? I look nine years old. Forty two years old. No,
Speaker 1: so you're still so young. You've got three years according
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady until you really have a lot of
Speaker 1: ship going on. So what do you think about that quote?
Speaker 1: Could he feel him on that? Yeah, Olivia, you're still young,
Speaker 1: and I mean that we all due respect. I feel
Speaker 1: everything that Brady said, like, that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: say at some point out loud. Every day we got
Speaker 1: a lot of ship going on. It comes on mouth
Speaker 1: every day. So I completely understand. This's what we said
Speaker 1: last week, like leave the guy alone who cares forty
Speaker 1: five years old? But what do you think he means
Speaker 1: by that? What's your conspiracy theory? Everyone's got one. I
Speaker 1: don't even really have a conspiracy theory. I read that
Speaker 1: as you know, I got kids of various ages and
Speaker 1: different you know, to women with moms, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on Tampa, but I live. He I just think
Speaker 1: he has a lot of ship going on. Maybe he
Speaker 1: took an extended vacation. I don't know, who knows, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have any conspiracy theories. I just take that
Speaker 1: as forty five year old man, father, football player life.
Speaker 1: M hm. You know what I like is he's been
Speaker 1: so real, so honest, and for a guy who's worth
Speaker 1: so much money, so good looking, supermodel wife, you know
Speaker 1: any man would envy Tom Brady, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of guys especially, were like, yes, I understand you.
Speaker 1: For the first time, we're on the same page. I mean,
Speaker 1: for all we know, he could have been trying to
Speaker 1: pride Grounk out of Vegas or something, or ever Grounkt.
Speaker 1: Maybe he he couldn't, like, you can't put it past
Speaker 1: Brady to have been on a secret mission, maybe trying
Speaker 1: to bring Calvin Johnson out of retirement. Who the hell
Speaker 1: knows what he was doing. So yes, I think he
Speaker 1: has other concerns because the New Orleans Saints are starting
Speaker 1: to get real trendy in the South. We don't have
Speaker 1: to fully, we're not ready for all that breakdown stuff yet.
Speaker 1: But like I think he knows that it's not foreseeing
Speaker 1: that Tampa is going to run away with the sal
Speaker 1: I think the South is going to be tougher we
Speaker 1: all expect. Oh yeah. Plus, his offensive line is all
Speaker 1: banged up, his starting center, his backup center, to interior guards,
Speaker 1: a backup guard. He's got. He's got issues on the
Speaker 1: football field too, but it sounds like he's got them
Speaker 1: off as well. Hey, I thought about you today when
Speaker 1: I read a headline New York Knicks guard r J.
Speaker 1: Barrett finalizing four year rookie extension worth up to a
Speaker 1: hundred twenty million dollars. But that ends twenty three year
Speaker 1: drought for the Knicks. He's the franchise's first draft pick
Speaker 1: to agree to a multi year contract extension after his
Speaker 1: rookie deal since But you know the implications of this.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts in regards to the deadline that
Speaker 1: the Knicks gave Donovan Mitchell Olivia? This has been and
Speaker 1: maybe only in New York do people truly care. This
Speaker 1: has been a saga that has taken up more of
Speaker 1: my time than anything hard Knocks could have brought me.
Speaker 1: The RJ. Barrett extension. I do hate that it's still
Speaker 1: part of the Mitchell trade now, like you can't just
Speaker 1: celebrate the first first round pick contract extension in however
Speaker 1: many years. But and I won't take too much on this.
Speaker 1: What a poker stare down going on between Leon Rose
Speaker 1: and Danny Ainge. She gave him a clock, he said,
Speaker 1: Monday night, I'm taking him off, And that is exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. R J. Barrett is off the table.
Speaker 1: We've only seen this poison pill and believe. I've been
Speaker 1: researching what this poison pill contract thing is exactly and
Speaker 1: what it means, and not to bore our listeners with
Speaker 1: what it means, but it basically makes r J really
Speaker 1: hard to trade, really really hard to trade. So he's
Speaker 1: almost taken off the table. I guess it still could happen,
Speaker 1: and Woad was talking all about how it could still happen.
Speaker 1: But I like it. I know Angel is trying to
Speaker 1: get r J Grimes six unprotected for like, I just
Speaker 1: like that. He drew a line in the sand and
Speaker 1: called all the bluffs and now you're starting already here, like, oh,
Speaker 1: now he's got has to go back to the Tyler
Speaker 1: Hero deal. Maybe Miami does the same extension with Tyler Hero,
Speaker 1: which would be incredible, putting him in this position with
Speaker 1: no options. I loved it. I love r J. I
Speaker 1: never wanted r J traded. Never did I want r
Speaker 1: J part of this trade. I think trading from Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Part of that is pairing him with r J, Barrett,
Speaker 1: Julius Randall, Jalen Brunson. If you're not going to do that,
Speaker 1: I don't ultimately see the full value of trading for
Speaker 1: him right now. So that's my Knicks R J. Donovan Brandt.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I didn't know how
Speaker 1: you'd feel about it, because I know you're excited about
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, very excited about Donovan Mitchell. I would I
Speaker 1: wish we would have drafted him when we had the chance.
Speaker 1: I would love him to be on the back, going
Speaker 1: way back. But you know, I still have the scars
Speaker 1: of the Mellow trade, which I loved getting Mellow, but
Speaker 1: giving up every single asset we have and then not
Speaker 1: having a whole lot from Mellow to play with hurt
Speaker 1: my feelings. So I liked. I love the job that
Speaker 1: the Knick's front office is doing. Yeah, uh oh, definitely. No,
Speaker 1: you're a little traumatized. I think Knicks fans in general,
Speaker 1: you guys have a long history of of poor decision
Speaker 1: making of a lot of divas. And you got your
Speaker 1: hands full. You got a lot of ship going on
Speaker 1: your forty two I'm telling I'm gonna say that later
Speaker 1: today and around six o'clock for no reason at all
Speaker 1: other than there's a lot of ship going on. As
Speaker 1: long as bradens down the mask singer, we're good. If
Speaker 1: that's what it was, then we're going to have some
Speaker 1: problems on Unleashed next week. Yeah, yeah, Well, I got
Speaker 1: a lot of ship going on to is. You know,
Speaker 1: I just got to London, so our time difference is
Speaker 1: kicking in here. I'm going to be living here for
Speaker 1: the season. My husband Sam's playing basketball over here. And
Speaker 1: speaking of a lot of ship going on, I flew
Speaker 1: here alone with our three month old baby, and we
Speaker 1: were talking before the show about that, and that is
Speaker 1: no no small feat. But you said this is the
Speaker 1: time to do it, right. I mean parents listening are
Speaker 1: probably cringing at the thought of that. No, I think
Speaker 1: I think it is the time to do it. I
Speaker 1: think before the baby's mobile and wants to walk up
Speaker 1: and down the aisle and say hi to everyone, and
Speaker 1: you all that it's your best chance of having a
Speaker 1: relatively peaceful flight. You did it. You made it. Your
Speaker 1: backdrop looks amazing. London looks good in your background right there, London,
Speaker 1: Olivia is here and I'm excited for it. Have you
Speaker 1: spent much time in London? Though? Only once? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I did love it what I saw that we were
Speaker 1: promoting the Entourage movie and we had a big London premiere.
Speaker 1: I right when we landed, got really sick. I had
Speaker 1: like the flu, a hundred three fever, went right into bed.
Speaker 1: But I was still working doing press. So every day
Speaker 1: they're like wheeling me out. Would never happen in today's day.
Speaker 1: They're wheeling me out. I'm doing an interview. They're putting
Speaker 1: me back into bed. Three days like that. My wife
Speaker 1: is all over London, gallivanting, having the greatest time. I
Speaker 1: had one thing I wanted to do in London while
Speaker 1: I was there, and I mean many, but the main
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the Winston Churchill War Room Museum.
Speaker 1: It's his underground bunker that you like, ran the country
Speaker 1: from during World War Two. We finally go when I'm
Speaker 1: finally her. We're there for like fifteen minutes and my
Speaker 1: wife is telling me we gotta go. We're going to
Speaker 1: see some park. I'm like, this is no, this is
Speaker 1: where I'm going to be. Our first argument as a couple,
Speaker 1: we're only two years into the relationship, happened in the
Speaker 1: Winston Churchill War Room and she made me leave after
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I didn't even get I wanted to stay
Speaker 1: for two hours. Minutes pulled me out of the war room.
Speaker 1: First argument as a couple. Oh no, God, And to
Speaker 1: think of all the arguments that happened in that room
Speaker 1: and that you lost yours in Winston Churchill's bunker. I
Speaker 1: lost the war in Winston Churchill's war room. Yes, I am,
Speaker 1: oh in one in the war room. Oh gosh. Oh
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Hey, speaking of something cool you did, especially
Speaker 1: as entourage movies and whatnot, we're coming out. I didn't
Speaker 1: really realize this. We were talking earlier. You were on
Speaker 1: ESPN's called Game Day. Yeah, you know, and look, we
Speaker 1: we discussed this a little last week. I put it
Speaker 1: out on social media. My loyalties for a college football team. We'll,
Speaker 1: we'll get there. I really need something to get me
Speaker 1: through this year, besides who I placed some wagers on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my only real experience at a big time
Speaker 1: college football game and experience they asked me to come
Speaker 1: do the pics on College Game Day, and I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what an entailed. The obviously knew that show
Speaker 1: is huge and it's you know, a cultural thing for sure,
Speaker 1: So yeah, not knowing what that entail. It was. Actually
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Nebraska games is going back ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson was a senior. So I get
Speaker 1: to Can't Randall and they put me in like a
Speaker 1: trailer and you know, going through the pre show stuff,
Speaker 1: and I walk out of that trailer too. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many thousands this must be what it feels
Speaker 1: like to be in college athlete. Thousands of people chanting
Speaker 1: my name as if I was starting quarterback for the Badgers.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Sat up there did the picks. Of
Speaker 1: course I picked Wisconsin because I was scared to get
Speaker 1: booed by all the fans that Can't Randall. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the most intimidated I've ever been in any
Speaker 1: type of media situation in my whole career. College Game
Speaker 1: Day Live, well, now, picking games this was before gambling
Speaker 1: was widespread legal across the country, so when they were
Speaker 1: picking games, it wasn't from a gambling perspective. Now, of
Speaker 1: course they can incorporate that in the broadcast. I know
Speaker 1: at my time at ESPN, we always laughed it was
Speaker 1: like the elephant in the room because we would all
Speaker 1: know the point spread, but you can't really say it,
Speaker 1: and then you know, if they're going for two, We're
Speaker 1: all kind of tongue in cheek, like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: gonna upset some people, you know, stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: you said you're a veteran gambler. So at the time
Speaker 1: you had to have known what you were talking about
Speaker 1: when you were picking teams. I did. I think I
Speaker 1: had to make a conscious effort not to be yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I don't I like the point
Speaker 1: like not nothing like that, I think saying you like
Speaker 1: the points or stuff like that. And of course Lee
Speaker 1: Corso took the opposite team and they booed him and yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we went. That's why I got to go
Speaker 1: to Big Tong College. I went after the game to
Speaker 1: like the was like the K Club or whatever they
Speaker 1: have at Wisconsin where everyone goes to the college kid
Speaker 1: for two days. Yeah, the k K Thank you. I
Speaker 1: never got to experience any college campus life, so for
Speaker 1: two days I had it and it was wonderful. I
Speaker 1: think Madison is one of the best college campuses in
Speaker 1: the country. I've got to put my alma mater up
Speaker 1: there with it. Athens, Georgia u G a reigning national champs.
Speaker 1: So have you ever been Athens? By the way, I haven't,
Speaker 1: but I really feel your energy. I just you you
Speaker 1: have to be crazy excited for college football to kick
Speaker 1: off kicked off technically, but to really get going because
Speaker 1: you've got a squad too to look forward to. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. I I've covered college football for years, mostly
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Now the last two years I really
Speaker 1: just do the SEC Championship on the sideline, which is
Speaker 1: amazing because my alma mater usually makes it to that game.
Speaker 1: I saw him win a couple of years ago. They
Speaker 1: lost last year to Alabama before winning the national championship.
Speaker 1: But the SEC Championship is always the appetizer to the
Speaker 1: National championship, so both have that same energy. I've been
Speaker 1: at both, and oh my god, it's so exciting, and
Speaker 1: watching your alma mater win is just such a good feeling.
Speaker 1: When they hadn't won for you know what, thirty years
Speaker 1: or something, and it it just forty years, and it
Speaker 1: just was so much fun to watch. But you know,
Speaker 1: we have a guest coming on who's going to give
Speaker 1: us a great preview, Sports illustrated writer Pat Forty. He
Speaker 1: has an amazing podcast. I never miss it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask him all about it. But he just had the
Speaker 1: cover story for SI on George's quarterback Stetson been Itt
Speaker 1: did you read that. I did read it. It was
Speaker 1: an amazing story, so well written, but just you really
Speaker 1: felt like you were along on that little brief journey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great. I encourage everyone to read that article
Speaker 1: if you haven't read it already. It's so good. But see,
Speaker 1: that's why people love college football, and sometimes college football
Speaker 1: fans and NFL fans don't overlap. There's such a kind
Speaker 1: of wholesomeness about college football and pageantry and in generational
Speaker 1: fandom and all of this. Now it's getting a bit
Speaker 1: watered down now that money is coming into the equation
Speaker 1: with n I y L and the transfer portal, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to. So well, we'll pick
Speaker 1: Pat Fortis brain on that. But first we gotta find
Speaker 1: you a college football team. Man. You can't just sit
Speaker 1: back all season hosting the show with me and not
Speaker 1: have a college football team. So I did put it
Speaker 1: out on Twitter. I got some really good recommendations, and
Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear yours if you have any recommendations,
Speaker 1: And maybe we could talk to path Forward about it too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll have some insight. I will say I
Speaker 1: had a crazy thought and something did happen when I
Speaker 1: was up in Detroit again at one of these charity
Speaker 1: golf tournaments this past week. You know, living in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: family full of Buckeye fans, and so many of them
Speaker 1: went to Ohio State, and and you know that's really
Speaker 1: what the city and the state that they love their
Speaker 1: Browns and their Bengals and all that, but Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going full he'll turn and maybe picking
Speaker 1: a rival of Ohio staffel. Like the easy thing to
Speaker 1: do is all in love with your team in law
Speaker 1: and go buck Eyes. That's so easy, no emotional connection
Speaker 1: for me. I'm thinking about going rogue, just up in Detroit.
Speaker 1: So that's a sneak preview of maybe of how I'm getting.
Speaker 1: So I am getting suede by people who have wolverine blood,
Speaker 1: think about going full heel turn in the Ferrara house
Speaker 1: full heel turn. Oh, I mean the you know, you're
Speaker 1: married with two kids. It's not like you can piss
Speaker 1: off your in laws to the point where they change
Speaker 1: their mind about you at this point, So I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you got to lose? Horrible take though I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to try to convince you to
Speaker 1: come to Madison, now that I know that you did
Speaker 1: game Day up there, and Madison is such a great town.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe I could get you on the Badger bandwagon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's out there. I mean, I don't know. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of great recommendations. I know you and I
Speaker 1: even talked off the air about like maybe the like
Speaker 1: Maryland ter Terribans. I thought that was your recommendation, right
Speaker 1: because of the like Turtle. Yes, yeah, that's definitely there.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got you got any other Rex for me?
Speaker 1: Before we may be asked? Pat? Okay, you seem like
Speaker 1: a guy who really is into footwear, So what about Oregon?
Speaker 1: You can always have a clean pair of Nikes on.
Speaker 1: You could talk to Phil Knight, maybe get on the sideline.
Speaker 1: If they keep the steady flow of product coming into
Speaker 1: the Ferrara House that I've enjoyed over the years, I
Speaker 1: could definitely Yeah, I could definitely go that way for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: very West Coast for me, though, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm such an East clost guy, but I could definitely
Speaker 1: do that. I'm telling you right now the Wolverines are leading,
Speaker 1: because I really want to be the enemy now. I
Speaker 1: think that will be the most fun for me. And
Speaker 1: i'd be I got invited to practice. I got another one. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean that's cool. Well, if you still want to
Speaker 1: go the opposite direction, stay in Ohio. How about University
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. They're a team right there on the cusp
Speaker 1: of national prominence. They made the College Football Playoff last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I could definitely get into that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a big enough hell. Like I think, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do Cincinnati, you should just go full enemy
Speaker 1: and go absolute rival of the buck Eyes. I I
Speaker 1: think that's not quite enough. Although they're a very very
Speaker 1: good team on the way up. So yeah, I'm leading
Speaker 1: the Michigan I got invited to practice yesterday. By experience.
Speaker 1: They said they'll put me from I'm being wooed. Who
Speaker 1: invited you? I'm not unnamed source. This is what my
Speaker 1: co host has taught me over the years. And also
Speaker 1: something else that came out of Detroit, and unnamed source
Speaker 1: told me that the Seahawks are not gonna win that division.
Speaker 1: And it's someone who knows a lot more about football
Speaker 1: than I do. Oh, we gotta talk with Peter Andrew
Speaker 1: about that at the end, because last week you had
Speaker 1: you caused some ripples when you said they were going
Speaker 1: to win the division. But yeah, there's a there's more
Speaker 1: to get to on that story. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: bring in our guests, because we got to find you
Speaker 1: a college football team, and I think he's just the
Speaker 1: guy to do it. Let's get to Pat Forty. He's
Speaker 1: an award winning journalist who has covered college sports for
Speaker 1: over three decades. Oh my gosh, he spent more time
Speaker 1: on campus than a fifth year senior Sports Illustrated senior writer.
Speaker 1: Pat Forty, thanks so much for being here, Pat Olivia Jeria,
Speaker 1: happy to be with you. Happy football season. I gotta
Speaker 1: say your podcast is one I don't miss. I've listened
Speaker 1: to for years. I feel like I know you and Dan.
Speaker 1: I laughed so hard every time I listened to it.
Speaker 1: I've survived rotating host, rotating names, The Chicken Wars, People's Court,
Speaker 1: the College Football Enquirer. Everyone should check out this podcast
Speaker 1: as the college football season is starting. You can thank
Speaker 1: me later. You know you genuinely seem to have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun doing it. I know you love this
Speaker 1: league so much. It's never changed as much as it
Speaker 1: has in the last couple of years. From the playoff,
Speaker 1: transfer port hole and I L. What keeps you coming
Speaker 1: back to college ball? Well, actually that exactly, Olivia is
Speaker 1: the fact that it is NonStop entertainment. There is something crazy, ridiculous,
Speaker 1: absurd happening all the time. The off season is really
Speaker 1: not even much of an off season anymore. Between you know,
Speaker 1: if you go back to and COVID, where we even
Speaker 1: gonna play, where we're gonna have a season. Then last
Speaker 1: year I was actually in Tokyo at the Olympics, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Texas and Oklahoma decide, oh we're
Speaker 1: leaving and going from the Big twelve to the SEC.
Speaker 1: And then this year you have USC and U c
Speaker 1: l A going with the Big ten, and then as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, transfer portal n I L. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a great sport, but it's a mess, and keeping up
Speaker 1: with the mess is actually you know, keeps the job fresh,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Absolutely, and with no real governing body,
Speaker 1: is you guys always talked about on the show, it
Speaker 1: it's a wild wild West in college football. But what's
Speaker 1: your biggest fear? As these things are evolving, what's your
Speaker 1: biggest fear at NC double A moving forward? I think
Speaker 1: that football is gonna swallow everything, including itself in terms
Speaker 1: of what's best for the sport. It's gonna swallow basketball.
Speaker 1: It's gonna harm the Olympic sports. But in the quest
Speaker 1: for revenue, I think it'll it'll harm itself too. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good development to have USC
Speaker 1: and U c l A playing in the same conference
Speaker 1: with Maryland and Records. It doesn't make sense. College football
Speaker 1: is at its best when you have every region of
Speaker 1: the country involved and following their schools or their leagues
Speaker 1: and then seeing how they do against the other leagues,
Speaker 1: when you get to bowl games and in the into
Speaker 1: the playoff, and and if you just turn this into
Speaker 1: the a f C and the NFC basically and everybody
Speaker 1: else is kind of cast to the side. That takes
Speaker 1: away what's unique about college football, what's different from the NFL,
Speaker 1: and the NFL is an awesome product. We don't need
Speaker 1: two nfls. We need something distinct and separate, And you know,
Speaker 1: I think that we are a great risk of of
Speaker 1: really losing the fabric of what makes that sport different
Speaker 1: at that level. How do you see teams now fundraising
Speaker 1: ultimately getting money to athletes as part of you know,
Speaker 1: an il recruiting and for someone who hasn't kept up
Speaker 1: with how this works and where is the money coming from?
Speaker 1: If you're almost explaining to someone who hasn't fully kept
Speaker 1: out because it's all changing rapidly now it is, and
Speaker 1: that's been one of the biggest developments, especially as the
Speaker 1: money has become a recruiting inducement and not just a
Speaker 1: reward for having already performed on a on a campus.
Speaker 1: So where it's coming from. The money's coming from boosters,
Speaker 1: it's coming from the fans. And you know, frankly hey,
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, nineties, early two thousands, that money
Speaker 1: was getting to the athletes one way or another, usually
Speaker 1: under the table. Now it's at least above the table, right,
Speaker 1: so at least okay, fine, we're you know, we're we
Speaker 1: know that the Cadillac dealership is giving a car to
Speaker 1: the quarterback, is opposed to having to guess where he
Speaker 1: got the car. We know you know that they're getting clothing,
Speaker 1: meals that sort of thing. Fine, in my opinion, it's okay,
Speaker 1: the players have earned it. It's not going to ruin
Speaker 1: the sport. It's all fine, But it is a big
Speaker 1: different and the funny thing has been listening to the
Speaker 1: dismay from the leaders here is like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: our boosters, we need them giving money to our alice
Speaker 1: department so we can build more facilities and pay for
Speaker 1: more assistant athletic directors and more staff. We don't need
Speaker 1: you giving that money directly to the players. You know.
Speaker 1: The the administrative panic that's involved here is kind of humorous.
Speaker 1: What's the craziest deal you've seen? Either the most money
Speaker 1: thrown out a player or just the silliest stretch of
Speaker 1: an advertisement? Like Nebraska with the coldest e A duet
Speaker 1: Crawford doing the A C commercials. That might be my favorite.
Speaker 1: That's an awesome one. I mean that's a natural and
Speaker 1: that's cool, and that's like good, That's what an ill
Speaker 1: should be, right, you know. Some of the other stuff
Speaker 1: where like Spencer Rattler when he was in Oklahoma before
Speaker 1: he played a game last year, had two cars and
Speaker 1: then he didn't play very well and he gets benched
Speaker 1: and then he transfers and it's like, Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that's on. I'll working out at its finest. When
Speaker 1: you were who's was the quarterback from Texas? He was
Speaker 1: the high school player of the year, skipped his senior
Speaker 1: season to move to Ohio so that he could make
Speaker 1: money on an I L. Then he played two snaps,
Speaker 1: handed off twice, transferred, went to to Texas where he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be the starter. But in March, I think
Speaker 1: it was her April, before he'd been named the starter there,
Speaker 1: he hadn't asked in Martin deal. Okay, look, I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot of future speculation involved in business, but
Speaker 1: I still I feel a little bit better if you
Speaker 1: actually saw people who had performed getting the windfalls from
Speaker 1: these sort of deals. Yeah, Olivia mentioned Nebraska just now,
Speaker 1: and I listened to your pod earlier this morning, and
Speaker 1: you guys did a great job talking about Scott Frost
Speaker 1: and and that whole plate call and all that, and
Speaker 1: just you know, just to finally unpack it, What exactly
Speaker 1: is he doing wrong? Is he just pressing? What? I mean?
Speaker 1: That was such a crazy plant. I don't think I
Speaker 1: ever seen that. Actually it was. It was like mind
Speaker 1: numbingly stupid. It's just like unbelievable to think in that
Speaker 1: situation in a game you really have to win, and
Speaker 1: you're winning, you're getting you know, it's working. You're up
Speaker 1: eleven points. Now we're just gonna run a very low
Speaker 1: percentage on side kick here. That's gonna let him come
Speaker 1: right back in the game. I mean, you don't have
Speaker 1: to do that to win the game. I don't think.
Speaker 1: You know, Northwestern is one of those teams you you
Speaker 1: kicked off and make them go eight yards. Chances are
Speaker 1: there probably not gonna do it. And now we're gonna
Speaker 1: turn around. We're just gonna turn the whole game right
Speaker 1: around there. Scott Frost has not been a good game manager,
Speaker 1: so that's why he's five and twenty one and one
Speaker 1: score games. I mean, which is just a catastrophic record.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do actually to be that bad. So
Speaker 1: between that, between personnel decisions, staff, I mean, they've just
Speaker 1: had everything go wrong. And you know, I didn't think
Speaker 1: they should have brought him back for this year, and
Speaker 1: I think what support he had for season number five,
Speaker 1: a lot of that eroded very quickly with one bad
Speaker 1: on side kick decision and then all of the fallout
Speaker 1: from that. MM. Yeah, definitely a Hail Mary season for
Speaker 1: Scott Frost. So it's probably not going to be the
Speaker 1: corn Huskers. But Jerry is looking for a team to
Speaker 1: pull for this year. You know he's he's a New
Speaker 1: York guy. Pat. He doesn't know what he's doing. He
Speaker 1: didn't go to the fun school like you and me,
Speaker 1: Missoo and Georgia. He doesn't know this college football blueprint.
Speaker 1: What are some of your favorite fan bases. Let's find
Speaker 1: a team for Jerry. Well, okay, I was thinking like,
Speaker 1: first off, let's go outside of the box, outside of
Speaker 1: the usual suspect wouldn't get into the box and the
Speaker 1: usual ones. But Jerry, I think for you, I like
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina of the Sun Belt Conference. They've got some appeal,
Speaker 1: Like just like, first of all, they're in They're in
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. What's a fun place to go, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: right place some golf go to the game. Their field
Speaker 1: is is teal. Their artificial turf is teal colored, so
Speaker 1: it's not it's not Boise blue, but it's its own
Speaker 1: version of that. Their quarterback, Grayson McCall, he's a fifth
Speaker 1: year guy, I believe. Anyway, he broke the past efficiency
Speaker 1: record last year that had been held by Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: Joe Borrow, Kyler, Murray Baker Mayfield. So he's a really
Speaker 1: good player, and he's gone twenty two or three as
Speaker 1: their starter, and everybody kind of figured, all, this guy's
Speaker 1: gonna transfer. He's gonna go to a bigger school. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of hit that level and he's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, work on his NFL game. His comment when
Speaker 1: he was coming back, Jerry said, I pissed Teal. So
Speaker 1: that's the guy you want to root for. That's your
Speaker 1: quarterback right there. Where's excessive amounts of eye black. He's
Speaker 1: got a mullet. I mean, there's a lot to like
Speaker 1: a lot of mullets on that team and probably in
Speaker 1: the fan base as well. So highly entertaining. I go
Speaker 1: with Coastal Carolina. So two things there, Pat. Number One,
Speaker 1: you you really must you must know me because you
Speaker 1: just spoke to every ounce of my core with sports,
Speaker 1: which is I need the storyline. And too, I feel
Speaker 1: like if I was a college quarterback, that's exactly how
Speaker 1: I would be. Those are exactly things I would say.
Speaker 1: So that's very interesting. You know my team in laws,
Speaker 1: I speak about my family. My wife's family is from Ohio,
Speaker 1: love Ohio State. I was getting wood a little bit
Speaker 1: with Michigan and then I speaking of storyline lines. This
Speaker 1: is like right out of an episode of like Friday
Speaker 1: Night Lights with naming one quarterback for week one, one
Speaker 1: for week two. Is this is this real? Or is
Speaker 1: this is a coach in harbor who doesn't really know
Speaker 1: who his best quarterback is? Or is he trying to
Speaker 1: play matchups? Explain this Michigan situation to me. I think
Speaker 1: it's his classic harborm mad genius here. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I've heard of something like this where you're
Speaker 1: literally starting one quarterback week one and the next one
Speaker 1: week two, and you're announcing that two weeks beforehand, So
Speaker 1: I think, what does it play? Is this? They're both
Speaker 1: legitimately very good quarterbacks Kay McNamara, who's gonna start Week
Speaker 1: one against Calorida State, and then J. J. McCarthy is
Speaker 1: gonna start Week two against Hawaii, and then he decided,
Speaker 1: you know, well, we'll figure it all out for real
Speaker 1: week three. A couple of things. First of all, the
Speaker 1: schedule is so bad that they can afford to do this, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not playing a difficult schedule early. Secondly, this keeps
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks from transferent. Nobody's been benched, yet nobody's out
Speaker 1: of a job and the season starting, and the semesters
Speaker 1: are starting, so cannot just go and roll somewhere else. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe you could find a place that's on a quarter
Speaker 1: system and jump in in late September, but even then
Speaker 1: you're gonna be ready to play. And so I think
Speaker 1: this is this is hard boss saying I may or
Speaker 1: may not know who I like most, but I really
Speaker 1: want them both and I'm going to do this to
Speaker 1: keep them both. Wow, that's pretty good. That's a good
Speaker 1: justification to you know, a school that definitely knows their
Speaker 1: quarterback and that is peace to him and to his family.
Speaker 1: Is Georgia sets in Bennett. And I'm embarrassed to say, Pat,
Speaker 1: I teared up reading your cover story on the six
Speaker 1: year QB. I don't know if being a boy mom
Speaker 1: has made me very soft or maybe it's a six
Speaker 1: thousand dollar bottle of Patti van Winkle. It just got
Speaker 1: me excited and and tiary. But the story is so
Speaker 1: damn good to begin with, and you wrote it so
Speaker 1: poignantly as you always do. I love this line about Bennett.
Speaker 1: Eighty minutes after the original meeting time, just when we're
Speaker 1: about to give up, Bennett comes through Georgia fans can
Speaker 1: likely relate. So I don't want to give away all
Speaker 1: the fun details of this story, but just encapsulated for me.
Speaker 1: What did you take away from your meeting with Bennett?
Speaker 1: What do you expect from the Bulldogs? Thank you. He's
Speaker 1: a very interesting, charming guy. I mean a little bit
Speaker 1: quirk and he did keep me waiting for eighty minutes,
Speaker 1: but he was so good to talk to once I
Speaker 1: got Once I got with him, you know that it
Speaker 1: was like that's fine, no problem. He just has that
Speaker 1: kind of wise acre confidence in himself. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like I should have always been the quarterback at Georgia.
Speaker 1: I'm five nine and a half. Nobody really recruited me,
Speaker 1: but I should have been here all along and they
Speaker 1: should have recruited me. And I'm gonna show him. And
Speaker 1: I was basically his attitude when he showed up, and
Speaker 1: he just lived it. And you know, after year one
Speaker 1: that we really didn't think it was gonna get to play.
Speaker 1: So we went to a junior college and then on
Speaker 1: signing day they said, hey, would you come back? And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, okay, I'll come back. And then he
Speaker 1: comes back and he tries to compete for the job,
Speaker 1: and they keep benching him and bringing in one transfer
Speaker 1: after another, putting in them ahead of him. And then
Speaker 1: finally he gets the chance last year and that leads
Speaker 1: him to the national championship. But as you know, Olivia,
Speaker 1: I mean, so many Georgia fans, so many different times
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, he can't do it, you know, including
Speaker 1: my son who's a Georgia grad himself, that we need
Speaker 1: a different quarterback in there. Keep rolling with him, and
Speaker 1: eventually he was going to pull it out, and he did.
Speaker 1: He was brilliant in the playoff. He had the one
Speaker 1: bad play against Alabama in the championship game, then he
Speaker 1: bounces back and leads two touchdown drives and he's just
Speaker 1: one of those guys. It's very easy, I think, for
Speaker 1: people to root for because of how far down the
Speaker 1: depth chart and really out of the picture he came
Speaker 1: for it to be a national championship quarterback. I was
Speaker 1: sideline reporting for that SEC championship game, and before the game,
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart told us the media that he hadn't ruled
Speaker 1: out playing J. D. Daniels. I mean the fact that
Speaker 1: that was so recent and right before he wins offensive
Speaker 1: m v P, you know, in the National Championship game
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later. It's just it's just wild.
Speaker 1: Can you recall another situation in all your years covering
Speaker 1: college football that was like that. I really I don't,
Speaker 1: I can't, you know. I mean, you can find, you know,
Speaker 1: former walk Ons who did great things or whatever, and
Speaker 1: that's but but like as you said, this was somebody
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have benched going into the
Speaker 1: playoff I mean, not just at various points of the year,
Speaker 1: but going into the actual playoff games. There and then
Speaker 1: he shows up and just destroys Michigan. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was great. That was his best game frankly in the
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl there, and then he comes back and slays
Speaker 1: that in Alabama Dragon. I mean, Alabama had had George's number,
Speaker 1: you know, like four or five times in a real painful,
Speaker 1: painful losses, including in that SEC championship game. You get
Speaker 1: another shot against him. You have the better team, Georgia
Speaker 1: was the better team. But then it almost goes awry.
Speaker 1: He has the fumble, it sets up Alabama takes the lead,
Speaker 1: and right then and there it's just like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna oh my gosh, people are really gonna kilt.
Speaker 1: That's been it now and then he comes back, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's just the perfect ending and it's not over.
Speaker 1: Of course he's gonna have another year. So good. I
Speaker 1: encourage everyone to read that article to something else really fast.
Speaker 1: I loved from it was when his mom said, you know,
Speaker 1: he's still just set. I still have to tell him
Speaker 1: to change the oil in his car. That was like
Speaker 1: my mom when I started having a little bit of
Speaker 1: success at the young age, Like, you still have health insurance, right, Jerry.
Speaker 1: They SAG Union gives you health insurance, right. I'm like, yes, mom, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's stick with you, j for a second. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: best defense in the nation last year, eight of those
Speaker 1: players now playing on Sunday in the NFL, you know,
Speaker 1: five or first rounders lost some skill players on offense.
Speaker 1: You know, can they make it back? Were they able
Speaker 1: to reload enough? In your opinion? You know, because it's
Speaker 1: it's the SEC you know, can they can they get it?
Speaker 1: Can they get their way back? I think they can, Jerry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that they've recruited on such
Speaker 1: a high level in the last four years that they
Speaker 1: are replacing very talented players with very talented players who
Speaker 1: have kind of been waiting for their turn. The offense,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be better than it was last year.
Speaker 1: The defense won't be as good, but you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure anybody's gonna have a defense that could for
Speaker 1: a long long time. So you know, can you instead
Speaker 1: of giving up ten points a game, you give up sixteen,
Speaker 1: You're still gonna win most of your games. And I
Speaker 1: actually being in the SEC East is the I think
Speaker 1: the easier side, although we'll see how it all plays out.
Speaker 1: But I look at their schedule. I think you get
Speaker 1: past Oregon in that opener, and they should, but that
Speaker 1: won't necessarily be an easy game. I think it opens
Speaker 1: up pretty well for him after that, and eventually you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Tennessee and you're gonna have Kentucky and and
Speaker 1: n SEC championship game. But I'm not expecting a lot
Speaker 1: out of Florida, and now Olivia knows. Sometimes that cocktail
Speaker 1: party can ruin your ruin your season, even when you're
Speaker 1: least expecting it. But it can also ruin your semester
Speaker 1: pad as a student, it could one I can breakup
Speaker 1: happened over that weekend. I've been to that game, I can.
Speaker 1: I've seen the drama in the parking lot, in the stands,
Speaker 1: and everywhere else. Yeah, but no, I expect. I expect
Speaker 1: Georgie would be really good and be right there in
Speaker 1: the playoff. Again, it seem it's like you always have
Speaker 1: to be worried about Alabama, but this season feels even
Speaker 1: more ominous. For lack of a better word, that you know,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban called out Jimbo Fisher this offseason. He even
Speaker 1: said that last year was a rebuilding year, which is
Speaker 1: alarming considering they won the SEC championship. That's so bizarre.
Speaker 1: He just got this big pay raise extension. Are there
Speaker 1: any games on the schedule that you think are losable
Speaker 1: or do you think Alabama runs the table? They seem
Speaker 1: itching to get going. Yeah, I mean, I think this
Speaker 1: will be one of the best Alabama teams, which is
Speaker 1: saying something. Their defense is going to get back to
Speaker 1: being really nasty. I believe I think that the best
Speaker 1: college football player in the country on defense, not the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner Rice Young the quarterback, but Will Anderson
Speaker 1: the linebacker. They've got some transfers that need to come through,
Speaker 1: but they should the schedule, I don't think is that
Speaker 1: difficult for them, but it's the SEC West, so there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some tough games in there. I think everybody
Speaker 1: is circling October eight, not just in red, but in
Speaker 1: blood because that's Texas A and M. And after the
Speaker 1: Jimbo Nick Saban hissing match. From me, everybody's gonna want
Speaker 1: to see that game. Arkansas is not bad. I don't
Speaker 1: think l s U is great this year, but like
Speaker 1: the Mississippi game, falls on a tricky place on the schedule,
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game. They have just trampled Tennessee for years,
Speaker 1: and I think Tennessee is better and that falls in
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tricky spot. So uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll have some challenges. But I would be very surprised
Speaker 1: if we're not seeing him in the SEC Championship game
Speaker 1: and probably undefeated at that point. Stick of the coaches USC,
Speaker 1: you know, new coach Lincoln Riley. They'll also you know,
Speaker 1: have a new conference with their move. Do you think
Speaker 1: USC can be a playoff contender? You know, right now,
Speaker 1: I think they're the slight favorite in the past twelve
Speaker 1: with Utah, and you know, I spent twenty years in
Speaker 1: l A. I've never really took to USC or u
Speaker 1: C l A, so uh, I'm just curious to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on USC. Well. I mean, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a B team after you know, going by Coastal
Speaker 1: and you're going to Myrtle Beach and you're being with
Speaker 1: with Coastal Carolina, USC would not be a bad bad
Speaker 1: wagon to hop on right now because they're getting better
Speaker 1: in a hurry. I mean that like the transfers they
Speaker 1: brought in a ridiculous Lincoln Riley's very talented coach. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're ready yet. Defensively, I mean, they were
Speaker 1: terrible last year and I can see him getting better
Speaker 1: from that, but I'm not sure you get championship or
Speaker 1: playoff better. I think Utah might be better than them
Speaker 1: in the Pack twelve, but I expect USC to be
Speaker 1: back to being really entertaining and grab some of that
Speaker 1: l A spotlight and the games in the Colisseum being
Speaker 1: fun and man, when they're good, the games of Colisseum rock,
Speaker 1: I mean it is really really fun to go there
Speaker 1: to watch like the Peak Carroll teams, and uh, they
Speaker 1: can get back to having a lot of buzz about
Speaker 1: them and win certainly more than they lose, and maybe
Speaker 1: eight nine games, maybe even ten. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: you know, I think that we will not be long
Speaker 1: before we're talking about USC as a playoff team. Maybe
Speaker 1: not this year, but soon. I'm still going at your
Speaker 1: first call because I couldn't root for USC when they
Speaker 1: were so good when I was in l Aggie Bush
Speaker 1: years like that's too. Your first call was great. Your
Speaker 1: first call is great for me. Postal Carolina, it is
Speaker 1: there you go. It's almost overwhelming all of the conference realignment.
Speaker 1: You know, the Big ten's becoming this monster. There's no
Speaker 1: geographical reason to it. Like you mentioned earlier, it could
Speaker 1: stretch from Rutger in Maryland to southern California and then
Speaker 1: speculation up to Oregon and Washington. What do you know
Speaker 1: in this story? What happens next year? Oh boy, I
Speaker 1: wish I knew. You know, the speculation. There's a different
Speaker 1: rumor every day. But I think that we are kind
Speaker 1: of in a period of stabilization for now. Does that
Speaker 1: lasting year? Maybe, maybe less, but I would think at
Speaker 1: least a year. The big level that can change everything
Speaker 1: is Notre Dame. Everybody wants Notre Dame. Notre Dame doesn't
Speaker 1: want anybody. They want to be independent. They want to
Speaker 1: stay that way, and I think they can do it
Speaker 1: at least for another year their media rights come up.
Speaker 1: I think in three maybe they are that they're going
Speaker 1: to get a good enough deal from NBC to remain independent,
Speaker 1: and that would alleviate the pressure for them to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: And that's one way of stopping the realignment wheels. Not
Speaker 1: every way, but then so that that at least they think,
Speaker 1: gives us a momentary kind of stasis and then we'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, I had Big ten sources say we are
Speaker 1: not done expanding flatly. But the timeline they gave with
Speaker 1: three to five years. So in three to five years,
Speaker 1: does the Big ten and SEC say, Okay, we're finally
Speaker 1: ready to move and just eat the other conferences and
Speaker 1: we're gonna take the best from the remaining leagues. And
Speaker 1: is it Washington Oregon? Is it Washington Oregon? Stanford, California?
Speaker 1: Is it North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Miami? The schools
Speaker 1: that are kind of hamstrung by their long brand of
Speaker 1: rights thing with the A C C. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I have a feeling we are going to
Speaker 1: end up with two basically twenty team conferences that kind
Speaker 1: of rule everything. But there's a lot of intrigues still
Speaker 1: to be hashed out. That's back to your big fear.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the a C and NFC right exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, And again, I don't think that's best for
Speaker 1: college football, but I'm not sure anybody's looking out for
Speaker 1: what's best in college football. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1: You know, the transfer portal off season? Do you do, like,
Speaker 1: declare a winner? Is there a winner? In your mind? Also,
Speaker 1: I need a better name than the transfer portal. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I get it. I could use a better
Speaker 1: thing than the transfer portal. It just sounds yeah, like
Speaker 1: I don't know something with back to the future. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know any something better than the transfer portal.
Speaker 1: But do you have a Is there a winner? Do
Speaker 1: we declare winners? Is there one that stood out to
Speaker 1: you as someone who really took advantage? Yeah? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: we we have to declare winners and losers of everything,
Speaker 1: of course. And I'll get research and development working on
Speaker 1: a better team and see what we can better names,
Speaker 1: see what we can come up with their but yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on it, but you know, you gotta kind of
Speaker 1: wait to see how the game's play. Like last year,
Speaker 1: nobody knew Michigan State was the transfer portal winner until
Speaker 1: they started playing, and it's like, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: got it. They got all the good guys out of there.
Speaker 1: But this year, on paper, USC huge transfer portal winner. Quarterback, receivers,
Speaker 1: running back. I think uh Oklahoma did well in the portal,
Speaker 1: but they also had to replace a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who left to go to USC. Trying to think Alabama's
Speaker 1: very strategically did it, you know, And that's kind of
Speaker 1: the the advantage of being Nick Saban. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got, you know, nineteen five star guys, but we
Speaker 1: kind of have a little hole at left tackle and
Speaker 1: maybe a running back and receiver. Let's just go get
Speaker 1: the best ones and so you know, they go and
Speaker 1: plunder from lesser schools. But again, we got to see
Speaker 1: him play out on the field and how they actually look.
Speaker 1: But I would say USC and Alabama kind of jump
Speaker 1: out as the two that probably did the best. So Pat,
Speaker 1: we are a betting show, obviously, and we like to
Speaker 1: play games with our guests. So we're calling this one
Speaker 1: Pat's Picks. Could you just very easy give us your
Speaker 1: winner for each Power five conference? Okay, winner for each
Speaker 1: Power five conference. Shockingly, I'm gonna go with Alabama. Shockingly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Ohio States. Give me Utah and
Speaker 1: the Packed twelve. Give me Clemson in the A C C.
Speaker 1: But I think NC State or Wake Forest to maybe
Speaker 1: pulling upset there, and then Big Twelve to me is like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Baylor in the Big twelve. Okay, why Bailey, I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: they are just they're they're They're really solidly built. Now.
Speaker 1: Their offensive defensive lines are great and that has become
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage league a little bit more. You know,
Speaker 1: it used to be just fifty to forty five and
Speaker 1: that's changed. Their defense was the best in the league
Speaker 1: last year. They should be good again, well them in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. And Oklahoma State lost a lot, including their coordinator.
Speaker 1: They're bringing in a new quarterback who was on the
Speaker 1: team last year, but they basically demoted last year's guy,
Speaker 1: Jerry Bohannon. And we're bringing up Blake Shape and who
Speaker 1: when he has played has been really good. So Jerry
Speaker 1: Bohannon transferred, he hit the portal. David Randa's kind of
Speaker 1: got that mojo as a coach. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 1: like this zen master kind of guy. He's different than
Speaker 1: other coaches, and it really seems to be working. Some
Speaker 1: people thought that he was so kind of introverted in
Speaker 1: intellectual that it wouldn't work for him as a head coach,
Speaker 1: and so some people passed on him. Taylor's like, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. And I was like, oh boy, it's
Speaker 1: working out, and I think that that will only continue
Speaker 1: to get better the old you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: as you know Olivia the phrase coaches love culture. He's
Speaker 1: a good culture builder. I love it. Yep. What about
Speaker 1: bad teams win total? I mentioned earlier you went to Miszoo,
Speaker 1: so Kansas is yeah, I can't even say a rival,
Speaker 1: but Kansas is a team that has a very low
Speaker 1: wind total. So there two and a half right now.
Speaker 1: If you had a guess, Kansas, do they get three wins? Okay? Gosh,
Speaker 1: you see, I thought you were just originally going bad teams.
Speaker 1: You went to Missoo. I thought it was just going
Speaker 1: straight aggressive attack there on my almama here, which I
Speaker 1: couldn't really dispute completely, but you know, but no, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at kansass schedule right now. I think they
Speaker 1: get three. I think they hired a really good coach
Speaker 1: in Lance Lighthold. We saw a little peak of that
Speaker 1: last year and they beat Texas. They opened with Tennessee Tech.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win that. They get Duke at home. They
Speaker 1: can beat Duke. You. All you gotta do is scrape
Speaker 1: out one big twelve win there. They can do it.
Speaker 1: It is like starting your climbing Mount Everest in snow shoes,
Speaker 1: so it's not easy. But I think Kansas is going
Speaker 1: to continue to move up and get better gradually through
Speaker 1: the years. Here. I think some people would be surprised
Speaker 1: to see Arizona's win total is just three. Do you
Speaker 1: think they get more than three wins? Boy? Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: They were bad last year. Jed Fish has recruited very well.
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of thing that may only take
Speaker 1: they it's gonna take a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The total is three, you said, I don't like it
Speaker 1: because I got San Diego State, who's better than they are,
Speaker 1: even though they're not in the Power five league. Then
Speaker 1: they got Missisippi State. They're gonna start owing two they
Speaker 1: can beat. Well, I got North Dakota States that are
Speaker 1: the best one double A r f C S team.
Speaker 1: They're not Who's who did? They're noncovering scheduling fire the
Speaker 1: A D. I don't see three wins on the schedule
Speaker 1: for Arizona. Give me the under Oh here you here
Speaker 1: that see? I like betting the stinkers. I think this
Speaker 1: is fun. Well it's here. It's upon us. Do you
Speaker 1: manage to sleep Friday night? What's your like? Or is
Speaker 1: it just like the calm? You know? I even I
Speaker 1: talked to a boxer about this, Mickey Ward. I said,
Speaker 1: night before fight night, are you sleeping or you wide awake?
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, I sleep, all the works done.
Speaker 1: So I'm asking you. I'm not that this is a
Speaker 1: fight for you, but Saturday it's gonna be an amazing sleep.
Speaker 1: What's your Friday night? Like? You like I get to
Speaker 1: bed earlier? You just wired? I'm wired. I'm wired all week.
Speaker 1: It's been funny. I've been like waking up at six
Speaker 1: am every day, which I do not do, but I
Speaker 1: just I've been you know, just constantly thinking what are
Speaker 1: the stories, what's gonna happen, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And so you know, there's good games Thursday night, I'll
Speaker 1: watch those, and then there's a couple of interesting games
Speaker 1: Friday night, so I will be watching throughout and I
Speaker 1: will know I will not be sleeping well. And then Saturday, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Saturday night, I'll be at Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: Ohio State being the Horseshoe. I live in Louisville, Kentucky,
Speaker 1: so it's only a three hour drive, so I'll drive
Speaker 1: up in the morning just to get that atmosphere and
Speaker 1: everything and and then soak in the game. And then
Speaker 1: we got a game Sunday night, we got a game
Speaker 1: Monday night, so it's it's on. It's fun. Yeah, Buckeys
Speaker 1: are a seventeen point favorite in that game. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's a little too generous? Help our listeners out.
Speaker 1: I don't. That's a big number. It's a big number
Speaker 1: for sure, And like Notre Dame is no slouch, but
Speaker 1: I don't like Notre Dame situation. Coming into this game,
Speaker 1: quarterback hadn't ever started before, coach hadn't coached, well, he
Speaker 1: coached the bowl game, but this is first game and
Speaker 1: they're on the road and it's his alma mater. I mean,
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman is an incredibly composed guy, but there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some emotions churning in him. They're going into the
Speaker 1: Horseshoe as the bad guy. And then their best offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: Jared Patterson, has been banged up in practice and they're
Speaker 1: not sure how available he will be. And I look
Speaker 1: at Ohio State and I think that they have the
Speaker 1: personnel and the hunger this year, you know, to be
Speaker 1: extremely good, and so I think they're coming out guns blazing,
Speaker 1: and if they're better on defense, then I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a long night for Notre Dame. All Right,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out which Coastal Carolina game I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to. I'm looking at yeah, looking at the
Speaker 1: travel schedule. I do, like James Madison, November twenty six,
Speaker 1: day after my birthday, game could be fine. Thank you
Speaker 1: for helping me find the team. You just settled this
Speaker 1: is gonna lasted all season, and I really think you
Speaker 1: just I think you just nipped it in the bud
Speaker 1: for me. Thank you. And here here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: it's November twenty six, you got months to grow out
Speaker 1: your mullet and fit right in with the crew there.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, let me go good mullet too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can grow a good mullet too. No, I'm in.
Speaker 1: You just solved it for me. Very excited. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't wait. We're gonna defeat Gardener Webb September tenth.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right on, we should all
Speaker 1: road trip with you to Myrtle Beach. Let's have let's
Speaker 1: do it. That would be good content that would could
Speaker 1: contact you in for that. I would love these lots
Speaker 1: of football game with you. I've got one more for you.
Speaker 1: What argument would you make to say that college sports
Speaker 1: will be fine thrive even in this new era? To doubters,
Speaker 1: the argument I would make is that people have tried
Speaker 1: for decades to screw up college sports and still haven't
Speaker 1: been able to completely do it. Like it's almost foolproof.
Speaker 1: It's almost idiot proof, because there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: idiots trying to do, you know, stupid things, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to matter whether there's leadership or whether there's direction,
Speaker 1: whether there's parody and fair. Whether it's corruption, nothing matters.
Speaker 1: It's like the games are still awesome, right we turn
Speaker 1: them on on Saturday, and everybody watches Nebraska Northwestern. I
Speaker 1: just saw I did like four point four million viewers
Speaker 1: from Ireland for two teams that are gonna probably finish
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Big Ten packet best. So
Speaker 1: the games themselves save the sport, you know, the actual Saturdays,
Speaker 1: the competition, the crazy things that happened, the upsets, the drama,
Speaker 1: the atmosphere, the fans. No matter how much the leaders
Speaker 1: and the administrators tend to get things wrong, I just
Speaker 1: don't think that you can blow it up completely. You
Speaker 1: can diminish a lot of the charm of it. But boy,
Speaker 1: you turn on that TV or you're in person in
Speaker 1: the stadium on Saturday, it's like this is still a
Speaker 1: pretty cool product. Boy, if that doesn't get you fired up,
Speaker 1: I don't know what will. That's great stuff. Yeah, thank you, Pat,
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. I hope you come back. Your pod
Speaker 1: is awesome. The Sports Illustrated article was great. I hope
Speaker 1: you come back to visit and I really would love
Speaker 1: to watch a game with you one of these days.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's do it and I'd be happy to
Speaker 1: be on any time. Great questions. I enjoyed it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, and you can follow Pat
Speaker 1: on Twitter at by Pat forty. Please come back on
Speaker 1: the show. It was great having you enjoy the season.
Speaker 1: Safe travels. All right, thanks? Okay, you know I'm still
Speaker 1: on season two of Entourage. I really got to work
Speaker 1: at a higher clip here. I've got to watch faster,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing the best I can. I'm I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ship going on. Um, but I
Speaker 1: am loving season two. Everything is getting you know, there's
Speaker 1: a little bit more depth now, We're getting more into
Speaker 1: the characters, but still celebrity cameo after celebrity cameo. Now
Speaker 1: we have Mandy Moore. Has there ever been an A
Speaker 1: list cameo who has left you kind of star struck?
Speaker 1: Like has anyone really thrown you on your back foot?
Speaker 1: So we and as you could, you'll be able to
Speaker 1: see as as the show progresses. Right Like early on
Speaker 1: season one, I think Walberg kind of like beg Borrow
Speaker 1: to get people to do the show because no one
Speaker 1: really knew who we were and they didn't want to
Speaker 1: play themselves. They didn't know if the joke was on them,
Speaker 1: you know, once they kind of solid We're not trying
Speaker 1: to make fun of you, We're trying to like laugh
Speaker 1: with you. The cameos kind of stepped up for me,
Speaker 1: and obviously I respect all the actors we've had. I
Speaker 1: of course loved when the athletes would come on, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil too much so, but saying
Speaker 1: their name like there's a big Brady Tom Brady episode
Speaker 1: coming your way. That one was really cool. That's an
Speaker 1: obvious one. There's another episode we had Lebron and Matt
Speaker 1: Damon in the same scenes along with Bono from YouTube.
Speaker 1: That was a pretty surreal lineup of just yeah that
Speaker 1: that one was pretty surreal, and I remember we all
Speaker 1: kind of just knew how special it was in the
Speaker 1: moment I'm gonna throw you a curveball. There. As much
Speaker 1: as I loved all the cameos, the best part not starstruck,
Speaker 1: but just when I found myself really just thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. We shot courtside at Laker games over
Speaker 1: the years, and we have a Kobe Bryant story that
Speaker 1: happened while we were shooting at a game. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want that story now, yea, yeah, give
Speaker 1: it to me. So we were we were shooting live
Speaker 1: at Staple Center, which is something they did not want
Speaker 1: to do, was the five of us whort side watching
Speaker 1: a game. Kobe was actually injured at the time, so
Speaker 1: of course we're shooting at a Laker game and watching
Speaker 1: like smush Parker, no disrespect the Smush Parker, but no
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. So we get there at like three o'clock
Speaker 1: to kind of get our camera guys and do a
Speaker 1: light rehearsal seeing the space, and Kobe's out there and
Speaker 1: it was a foot injury, so he has some kind
Speaker 1: of brace on and he's out there like shooting around
Speaker 1: and like sweats by himself. And we're out there in
Speaker 1: courtside doing all rehearsal, but now everyone's watching Kobe just
Speaker 1: shooting jumpers and like getting a little sweat. So he
Speaker 1: comes over to us and he's like, uh, hundred bucks
Speaker 1: a shot from half court. I'm like we're like us.
Speaker 1: He's like, no me, We're like, we're not betting against you.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, lefty hundred dollars a shot. Now the
Speaker 1: guy's also on one leg, by the way, So we're
Speaker 1: like done for sure. So lines up the first shot,
Speaker 1: mrs now everyone's over. Lines up the sectionally half court
Speaker 1: off one ft lefty. Miss is the second shot, This
Speaker 1: is the third, miss is the fourth, gets to the fifth,
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, this is the last shot, and
Speaker 1: I think he threw another hundred on It's something like that.
Speaker 1: So it's like a two shot, launches lefty shot off
Speaker 1: of one leg. Thing is on track, it's online, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Gets to the who rattles in and falls out and
Speaker 1: doesn't go in, and he was pissed. He was not
Speaker 1: like laughing like we were. He kind of stormed out,
Speaker 1: didn't even really say goodbye, and also didn't give us
Speaker 1: our money. So we're like, yeah, did he just sort
Speaker 1: of fake us out with a story? What was that?
Speaker 1: But we were just amazed and honestly felt honored to
Speaker 1: like see that moment. So now the game's going on,
Speaker 1: we're shooting our stuff, watching the game, acting all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like a very very famous episode and very very
Speaker 1: famous scene. So halftime guy runs out to us some
Speaker 1: kind of equipment man manager or something and runs up
Speaker 1: to the five of us and just starts peeling off
Speaker 1: hundred dollar bills saying this is from Kobe. And he
Speaker 1: hands us at each like whatever it was four or
Speaker 1: five hundred, but just peeling off money. It looks like
Speaker 1: we're doing like some kind of drug deal. At halftime,
Speaker 1: the middle of people dudes handing us a hundred dollar
Speaker 1: bills and is from Kobe. Yeah. I think it was
Speaker 1: like a guy or something like that. Again, the exact
Speaker 1: numbers might be a little fuzzy, but it's something. I'm
Speaker 1: in the ballpark and this is all real, verifiable with
Speaker 1: the other guys from the show. And he paid us
Speaker 1: whatever a couple of hundred bucks it was, and just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's from Kobe and walked out. And then we made
Speaker 1: eye contact with him a few times from across the bench,
Speaker 1: and I think he was like Piste that he didn't
Speaker 1: make the shot. So I'm sure that was a surreal
Speaker 1: entourage moment that I will never ever forget. We all
Speaker 1: still talk about it to this day. Uh yeah, surreal moment.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Everyone's got a great Kobe story who
Speaker 1: spent time around l A at that time, but that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. Rest in peace, Kobe, Bryant is
Speaker 1: a great story. All right, it's time everybody, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's break down these games with our bet MGM betting analyst,
Speaker 1: our odds on favorite, Peter Andrew. Peter, you're kind of
Speaker 1: becoming an unleashed troll here. Last week you show up
Speaker 1: with a Niners jersey. Were I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: come in another jersey wearing more jerseys than my character
Speaker 1: Turtle did on Entourage. Well, I can't see what you're
Speaker 1: quite wearing right now. Don't worry. Someone on this call
Speaker 1: is a Georgia alumni, Georgia fans, So I decided to
Speaker 1: rock my damn a shirt. Not an unleashed troll. You're
Speaker 1: an Olivia troll. And now I'm just thinking this, but
Speaker 1: you are wearing what is that west Ham United hat?
Speaker 1: West Ham United? You got your choices cut off for you?
Speaker 1: Is an arsenal leading right now for now, this however,
Speaker 1: your start, Peter, I feel like I could really kind
Speaker 1: of go action. Now we're getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: It's coming, it's coming around. But you kind of trashed
Speaker 1: me from my lottery ticket Seahawks bet again, lottery ticket
Speaker 1: being the big words in that statement. And then I
Speaker 1: wake up to this tweet. It was an Action Network too.
Speaker 1: This says the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl better
Speaker 1: on bet MGM wager hundred dollars on the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: plus tway thousand to be the champs to win two
Speaker 1: hundred sixty k Are we becoming the trendy pick? Now
Speaker 1: the seat how the Seahawks? This is why I need
Speaker 1: a blue check mark and against my name on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram because clearly it's got some clout with it,
Speaker 1: and uh, people are listening. I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: Maybe you are onto something. Maybe I've been dead wrong
Speaker 1: this whole time. So I guess we'll see week ones
Speaker 1: about ten, you know, ten twelve days away from us
Speaker 1: till all right before we get into the into college football,
Speaker 1: which is what we want to talk to you about. Though,
Speaker 1: What would you what odds would you put on me
Speaker 1: being the person who bet the on the Seahawks in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I got it right now minus three fifty.
Speaker 1: But it's been moving the opposite direction, so it's it's
Speaker 1: almost a lock. It might be a big reveal at
Speaker 1: the end of Unleased, or I just I mean, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just show that ticket. Maybe it's me, It
Speaker 1: could be me. Guys could be made. But I know
Speaker 1: we're not here to talk about that. We're here to
Speaker 1: talk about some college football today. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: to start with what we talked about with Pat forty
Speaker 1: was the Notre Dame at Ohio State game Vegas. Expecting
Speaker 1: these to be a bit of a stinker. Seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half point spread, uh, favoring the Buckeyes at home.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that one, Pete? Yeah, seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half up from fourteen and a half in
Speaker 1: just a couple of days. So there was some quote
Speaker 1: unquote sharp money that pushed that line to seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half. Oious say, it's gonna be good to year.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be really good. They're probably the second best
Speaker 1: team in in n C Double A, maybe the first.
Speaker 1: Them and BAM are really close. But it's gonna take
Speaker 1: some time to reproduce what they lost. So they lost
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson to the Jets, Crystal Lava to the Saints.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of production right off the bat. Week one.
Speaker 1: They're coming in there at home, but they're playing the
Speaker 1: top five team. I think they win, they probably win
Speaker 1: by that ten to fourteen range, but top five Notre
Speaker 1: Dame team, great defense, a lot of returning players. I
Speaker 1: just don't see them winning by eighteen nineteen points seems
Speaker 1: like a lot for Week one, and and I think
Speaker 1: Ohio State's gonna it's gonna take some time for them
Speaker 1: to get to that point where they become the one
Speaker 1: or two team respectively in the in N double A. Okay,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame to cover I like that one. What about
Speaker 1: All Miss in Troy twenty one and a half point
Speaker 1: spread favoring the Rebels. Yeah. So I'm admittedly a Lane
Speaker 1: Kiffin guy, so I'm always kind of me to side
Speaker 1: just such a odd ball. They did a really good
Speaker 1: job in the transfer portal this year. Jackson Dart Michael Trigger.
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is backup to Caleb Williams last year USC
Speaker 1: so comes in at quarterback for All Miss. I think
Speaker 1: they've done a really good job. There is Zach Evans
Speaker 1: from TCU as well. They have the offensive firepower they need.
Speaker 1: Troy is actually a relatively good offensive team, so I
Speaker 1: think they will put up points. But I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Old MS is just gonna
Speaker 1: come away, run, run away with it. Fourth quarter, probably
Speaker 1: blow it out. I think they cover pretty easily, don't
Speaker 1: you love Lane Kiffin stealing a USC kid like just
Speaker 1: a major fu to the Trojans who did him dirty.
Speaker 1: And the best is just no one expects differently. I
Speaker 1: think that's that's part about Well, I was sticking out
Speaker 1: to you, this is this Saturday. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: that you just kind of got your hooks into or
Speaker 1: is it's too soon to tell or do you already
Speaker 1: have it kind of done in your mind? I think
Speaker 1: you know. In terms of games on Saturday, I think
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for lines to move. But there are two
Speaker 1: things I'm looking for, you know. Heisman value I think
Speaker 1: is really important to get ahead of for week one,
Speaker 1: so you have I just mentioned him before. Caleb Williams,
Speaker 1: he's plus six hunter right now, USC stud. They are
Speaker 1: loaded with weapons, so I really like taking him at
Speaker 1: plus six hundred. He comes out firing at think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a number that can drop pretty dramatically, and
Speaker 1: more so staying out west in the Pac twelve Cameron
Speaker 1: Rising so the Utah quarterback, he's plus six right now.
Speaker 1: They have a ton of weapons. They play Florida this week.
Speaker 1: If they come out upset Florida or actually think they're favorite.
Speaker 1: But if they come out national television beat Florida, I
Speaker 1: promise you it's gonna be because of him. And that
Speaker 1: number is not gonna be plus sixty anymore. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be something like thirty two one or twenty two one,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna come and ball out. So take the
Speaker 1: value while you can. Those numbers are gonna change dramatically.
Speaker 1: Heisman is obviously always up in the air. You never know.
Speaker 1: If Bryce Young has a stinker, you end up getting
Speaker 1: him in week two, week three at better value. It's
Speaker 1: it's always gonna fluctuate, So you just gotta find the
Speaker 1: right price that you're comfortable with taking a lottery ticket,
Speaker 1: and then you never know see what happens kape. How
Speaker 1: about conference winners. Let's start in the SEC. We've already
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Alabama, and hey, they play Texas
Speaker 1: week two, and that also, I think was a seventeen
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half point spread. Why do you think
Speaker 1: that's such a big spread? People are really underestimated in
Speaker 1: the long horns. I am one of those that are
Speaker 1: underestimating them. Too, But it's all to do with Bama's
Speaker 1: loaded offense. I mean, Bryce Young probably the best defensive
Speaker 1: player in football, Will Anderson Jr. Outside linebacker, probably a
Speaker 1: top five pick. And then you have Jameer Gibbs, the
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech running back, which comes in. They are absolutely loaded.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably the best running back besides Bijan
Speaker 1: Robinson who's on the other side of the ball in
Speaker 1: Week two. But they're piste off. I think that team,
Speaker 1: you know, I heard Tibo say this. They don't want
Speaker 1: to just come and beat you. They want to dominate
Speaker 1: and blow you out. And after last year obviously losing
Speaker 1: national title, I think they're coming out with that big
Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder. The price I think is minus
Speaker 1: one forty. I know it's a little bit chalky, but
Speaker 1: all things considered that that could be minus five by
Speaker 1: week three, week four, especially if there are some upsets
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Yeah, I think you take that, don't
Speaker 1: look back. That's probably the best price you're gonna find
Speaker 1: throughout the season. What do you got for a big ten,
Speaker 1: because that's a very big station. You're Michigan Wolverine. My
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines. Are we officially a Michigan wolver we might
Speaker 1: be we I'm also starting week three at quarterback, so
Speaker 1: we're alternating now three quarterbacks for for week. So I'm
Speaker 1: starting week three, So yeah, what the big Ten's a
Speaker 1: big conversation in my house. I was going to try
Speaker 1: to get you to become a Miami Hurricanes fan because
Speaker 1: dary Ohio state rivalry back nearly two thousands could have
Speaker 1: been a good one. But in a long time. But
Speaker 1: you know, back to what we talked about, A house
Speaker 1: state is absolutely loaded. I mean minus two Michigan I
Speaker 1: think is six to one Wisconsin twelve of the one.
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a great team, but they have to replace
Speaker 1: seven eight people I think on defense. So they'll get
Speaker 1: that production on defense, but they're replacing a lot of
Speaker 1: people that they lost last year. Jim Leonard, who's the
Speaker 1: old Ravens Jets dB. I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: a really good coach. He already is, probably, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna take some time to get them back to that
Speaker 1: level that they need to and it's probably not this year.
Speaker 1: And again, you have all these weapons in Ohio State.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's really hard. Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigba. I mean they are loaded at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna take time for those guys to get really,
Speaker 1: you know, comfortable and assume that spot is one and two.
Speaker 1: And I think it's uh again a little bit chalky,
Speaker 1: but again might be the best price. You may want
Speaker 1: to wait if you really feel good about Notre Dame
Speaker 1: after week one and think there's an upset in order,
Speaker 1: you might wait to take that price week two. But
Speaker 1: then you're gonna obviously pay the price if they win
Speaker 1: and blow them out, because it'll be close to my
Speaker 1: four hundred probably after week one. Well, you're really chalky.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on a CC Miami at plus five fifty.
Speaker 1: That's your pick, and that's a lot of value. Why
Speaker 1: the Hurricanes, Yeah, so trying again take a little bit
Speaker 1: of that Homer bias Acide. Love the Kings, but Marie Christoval,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that should have been
Speaker 1: really good last year under many daz in the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, and they just had not been able
Speaker 1: to get the most out of it. They're coming in
Speaker 1: this year new offensive coordinator Tyler Van Dyke back for
Speaker 1: a year two. I think they're gonna be really good.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win I think the Coastal fairly easily. They'll
Speaker 1: play Clemson in the the a c C title game.
Speaker 1: It's all about just an upset there. So again value
Speaker 1: rather than just taking the chalkie Clemson. I think you
Speaker 1: take the plus five fifty better than the minus two
Speaker 1: three that it is for Clemson. And again they should
Speaker 1: run away with with the Coastal Division and playing either
Speaker 1: NC State or Clemson, they've got a shot. So I
Speaker 1: just don't want to take all chalk here. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's worth the value because they are going to get
Speaker 1: to that title game probably pretty easy. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is chalk for you. I mean
Speaker 1: I have a former West Coast guy twenty years out
Speaker 1: in l A and never took to u C, l
Speaker 1: A or USC. Just couldn't bring myself to do it.
Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve is really interesting this year.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure do you have a do you have
Speaker 1: a pick as a chalk for you? There is not
Speaker 1: really chocked in my opinion, but yeah, I think everything
Speaker 1: points to Utah probably being a smart pick plus two,
Speaker 1: but some thing about Lincoln Riley with that offense just
Speaker 1: really intrigues me. So I think they're plus two hundreds,
Speaker 1: so they're pretty much NECNNEC. I mean Jordan Addison who
Speaker 1: won the blatt Niccough last year. You have Caleb Williams,
Speaker 1: Travis died, Maria Williams. That's a loaded offense. Again, you
Speaker 1: tie is the smart pick because they have a really
Speaker 1: good front, you know, front five on offense, they have
Speaker 1: a really good defense. They can get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: We talked about Cameron Rising obviously being a probably a
Speaker 1: Heisman host hopeful, especially after potential Week one against Florida.
Speaker 1: But but something about usc just really drives me towards
Speaker 1: uh thinking they're gonna be loaded this year again. Lincoln Riley,
Speaker 1: proven coach, new new scenario. I think he comes out
Speaker 1: really impresses year one. Oh yeah, and he knows how
Speaker 1: to produce a Heisman winning quarterback. So that adds to
Speaker 1: your Caleb Williams argument at at plus six hundred when
Speaker 1: the Heisman. Okay, another value pick. As you were texting
Speaker 1: me your your picks, I like this one in Kansas
Speaker 1: State plus twelve hundred. Why do you like them in
Speaker 1: the Big twelve? So one player that really next out
Speaker 1: to me, it's running back to Slan. I mean he
Speaker 1: he does it all short, stocky guy, great out of
Speaker 1: the backfield where the he was catching the ball. Obviously
Speaker 1: super explosive, very very reminiscent of a guy like Darren Sprowls, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, was also a case they running back
Speaker 1: back in his day. I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: about them. They just really intriguing team. They can catch fire. Again.
Speaker 1: You have the O U s in the texts of
Speaker 1: the world that are obviously favorite. But I want to
Speaker 1: take a flyer on them. I think they are top team.
Speaker 1: They can be, and I think a couple of lucky
Speaker 1: wins they find themselves in that position. Again, it's a
Speaker 1: value pick. You might catch Texas or oh you had
Speaker 1: something a little bit better than plus two hundred plus
Speaker 1: three hundred, So why not take them right now while
Speaker 1: they're twelve of one and see what happens. I like that.
Speaker 1: That was a good mix, good mix of of chock
Speaker 1: and value. Peter Andrew, you're giving us a decent preview here,
Speaker 1: all right, pire anything bet MGMs running I mean being
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Speaker 1: for sure. All Right, Peter says, all right, Olivia, it's
Speaker 1: my least favorite part of the show. The show is
Speaker 1: over wrapping up, but full slate college football coming up.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait, and we don't have to wait too
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Speaker 1: in the big guns here for the NFL season, locked
Speaker 1: and loaded. So yeah, London, Olivia is gonna be I'll
Speaker 1: stop calling you that after this week. No worries, just
Speaker 1: for this week. Your backdrop looks great. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: everybody next week. Yeah. Thanks for listening.