WEBVTT - Back on Campus with Pat Forde 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:08.520 From the King of sports books comes the key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:18.919 podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:29.840 Ferrara and Olivia Arlan Decker. So, Jerry, the preseason is 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.840 finally over. And guess what, my friend, you made the cut. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.320 You made it. We're keeping you for the season for 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.120 the next five months plus, We've got very meaningful NFL 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.760 games every weekend look forward to, which means a lot 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.239 of bets to be made. What do you think You're excited? 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.400 I'm excited. I'm glad I made the team. My hard knocks. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.640 Of the first three episodes of Unleashed, I didn't get 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.159 called to the coach's office to bring my playbooks. So 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.720 I'm here, And yeah, doing this show is amazing. And 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.480 we haven't even started to have like meaningful content to discuss, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.960 like been break down and get into were just like waiting. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.000 So this is great. Yes, preseasons over, thank thank god. Yeah, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.120 And I don't mean to be rude when I ask this, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:15.240 but how old are you? Um? Forty two years old? 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.480 Right today? I look nine years old. Forty two years old. No, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.160 so you're still so young. You've got three years according 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.000 to Tom Brady until you really have a lot of 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.360 ship going on. So what do you think about that quote? 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.640 Could he feel him on that? Yeah, Olivia, you're still young, 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.160 and I mean that we all due respect. I feel 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.959 everything that Brady said, like, that's kind of what I 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.039 say at some point out loud. Every day we got 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.760 a lot of ship going on. It comes on mouth 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.800 every day. So I completely understand. This's what we said 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.679 last week, like leave the guy alone who cares forty 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.520 five years old? But what do you think he means 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.880 by that? What's your conspiracy theory? Everyone's got one. I 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.360 don't even really have a conspiracy theory. I read that 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.840 as you know, I got kids of various ages and 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.200 different you know, to women with moms, and you know, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.560 I'm on Tampa, but I live. He I just think 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.000 he has a lot of ship going on. Maybe he 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.839 took an extended vacation. I don't know, who knows, I don't. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.120 I don't have any conspiracy theories. I just take that 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.200 as forty five year old man, father, football player life. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.440 M hm. You know what I like is he's been 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.720 so real, so honest, and for a guy who's worth 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.920 so much money, so good looking, supermodel wife, you know 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.960 any man would envy Tom Brady, and I think a 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.960 lot of guys especially, were like, yes, I understand you. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.320 For the first time, we're on the same page. I mean, 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:39.960 for all we know, he could have been trying to 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.200 pride Grounk out of Vegas or something, or ever Grounkt. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.680 Maybe he he couldn't, like, you can't put it past 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.839 Brady to have been on a secret mission, maybe trying 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.280 to bring Calvin Johnson out of retirement. Who the hell 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.919 knows what he was doing. So yes, I think he 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.800 has other concerns because the New Orleans Saints are starting 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.600 to get real trendy in the South. We don't have 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.359 to fully, we're not ready for all that breakdown stuff yet. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.880 But like I think he knows that it's not foreseeing 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.720 that Tampa is going to run away with the sal 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.760 I think the South is going to be tougher we 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.280 all expect. Oh yeah. Plus, his offensive line is all 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:15.240 banged up, his starting center, his backup center, to interior guards, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.880 a backup guard. He's got. He's got issues on the 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.200 football field too, but it sounds like he's got them 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.480 off as well. Hey, I thought about you today when 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.120 I read a headline New York Knicks guard r J. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.160 Barrett finalizing four year rookie extension worth up to a 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.560 hundred twenty million dollars. But that ends twenty three year 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.560 drought for the Knicks. He's the franchise's first draft pick 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.960 to agree to a multi year contract extension after his 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.280 rookie deal since But you know the implications of this. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.680 What are your thoughts in regards to the deadline that 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.960 the Knicks gave Donovan Mitchell Olivia? This has been and 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.160 maybe only in New York do people truly care. This 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.640 has been a saga that has taken up more of 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.240 my time than anything hard Knocks could have brought me. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.360 The RJ. Barrett extension. I do hate that it's still 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.360 part of the Mitchell trade now, like you can't just 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.560 celebrate the first first round pick contract extension in however 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.800 many years. But and I won't take too much on this. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.599 What a poker stare down going on between Leon Rose 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.320 and Danny Ainge. She gave him a clock, he said, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.599 Monday night, I'm taking him off, And that is exactly 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.800 what it is. R J. Barrett is off the table. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.440 We've only seen this poison pill and believe. I've been 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.880 researching what this poison pill contract thing is exactly and 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.560 what it means, and not to bore our listeners with 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.320 what it means, but it basically makes r J really 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.039 hard to trade, really really hard to trade. So he's 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.719 almost taken off the table. I guess it still could happen, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.320 and Woad was talking all about how it could still happen. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.000 But I like it. I know Angel is trying to 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:53.360 get r J Grimes six unprotected for like, I just 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.200 like that. He drew a line in the sand and 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.120 called all the bluffs and now you're starting already here, like, oh, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.320 now he's got has to go back to the Tyler 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.800 Hero deal. Maybe Miami does the same extension with Tyler Hero, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.920 which would be incredible, putting him in this position with 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.520 no options. I loved it. I love r J. I 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.200 never wanted r J traded. Never did I want r 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.520 J part of this trade. I think trading from Mitchell. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.920 Part of that is pairing him with r J, Barrett, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.000 Julius Randall, Jalen Brunson. If you're not going to do that, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.240 I don't ultimately see the full value of trading for 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.200 him right now. So that's my Knicks R J. Donovan Brandt. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.320 I like it. I like it. I didn't know how 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.320 you'd feel about it, because I know you're excited about 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.719 Donovan Mitchell, very excited about Donovan Mitchell. I would I 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.360 wish we would have drafted him when we had the chance. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.560 I would love him to be on the back, going 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.840 way back. But you know, I still have the scars 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.719 of the Mellow trade, which I loved getting Mellow, but 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.000 giving up every single asset we have and then not 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.680 having a whole lot from Mellow to play with hurt 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 my feelings. So I liked. I love the job that 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.080 the Knick's front office is doing. Yeah, uh oh, definitely. No, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.400 you're a little traumatized. I think Knicks fans in general, 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.600 you guys have a long history of of poor decision 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.360 making of a lot of divas. And you got your 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:09.840 hands full. You got a lot of ship going on 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:14.600 your forty two I'm telling I'm gonna say that later 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.800 today and around six o'clock for no reason at all 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.800 other than there's a lot of ship going on. As 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.200 long as bradens down the mask singer, we're good. If 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:22.919 that's what it was, then we're going to have some 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.680 problems on Unleashed next week. Yeah, yeah, Well, I got 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.120 a lot of ship going on to is. You know, 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.680 I just got to London, so our time difference is 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.719 kicking in here. I'm going to be living here for 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.120 the season. My husband Sam's playing basketball over here. And 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.080 speaking of a lot of ship going on, I flew 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.120 here alone with our three month old baby, and we 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.720 were talking before the show about that, and that is 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.800 no no small feat. But you said this is the 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.240 time to do it, right. I mean parents listening are 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.680 probably cringing at the thought of that. No, I think 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:54.800 I think it is the time to do it. I 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.880 think before the baby's mobile and wants to walk up 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.840 and down the aisle and say hi to everyone, and 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.039 you all that it's your best chance of having a 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.920 relatively peaceful flight. You did it. You made it. Your 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.480 backdrop looks amazing. London looks good in your background right there, London, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.800 Olivia is here and I'm excited for it. Have you 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.640 spent much time in London? Though? Only once? Yeah, And 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.560 I did love it what I saw that we were 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.280 promoting the Entourage movie and we had a big London premiere. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.320 I right when we landed, got really sick. I had 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.200 like the flu, a hundred three fever, went right into bed. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.760 But I was still working doing press. So every day 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.040 they're like wheeling me out. Would never happen in today's day. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.920 They're wheeling me out. I'm doing an interview. They're putting 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.800 me back into bed. Three days like that. My wife 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.920 is all over London, gallivanting, having the greatest time. I 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.280 had one thing I wanted to do in London while 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:48.880 I was there, and I mean many, but the main 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.120 I wanted to go to the Winston Churchill War Room Museum. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.040 It's his underground bunker that you like, ran the country 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.160 from during World War Two. We finally go when I'm 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.000 finally her. We're there for like fifteen minutes and my 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.840 wife is telling me we gotta go. We're going to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.760 see some park. I'm like, this is no, this is 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.680 where I'm going to be. Our first argument as a couple, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.200 we're only two years into the relationship, happened in the 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.000 Winston Churchill War Room and she made me leave after 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.640 twenty minutes. I didn't even get I wanted to stay 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.480 for two hours. Minutes pulled me out of the war room. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.120 First argument as a couple. Oh no, God, And to 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.560 think of all the arguments that happened in that room 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.800 and that you lost yours in Winston Churchill's bunker. I 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.760 lost the war in Winston Churchill's war room. Yes, I am, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.360 oh in one in the war room. Oh gosh. Oh 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.760 that's horrible. Hey, speaking of something cool you did, especially 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.520 as entourage movies and whatnot, we're coming out. I didn't 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.760 really realize this. We were talking earlier. You were on 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.160 ESPN's called Game Day. Yeah, you know, and look, we 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.000 we discussed this a little last week. I put it 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.600 out on social media. My loyalties for a college football team. We'll, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.040 we'll get there. I really need something to get me 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.440 through this year, besides who I placed some wagers on. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.720 But yeah, my only real experience at a big time 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.959 college football game and experience they asked me to come 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.880 do the pics on College Game Day, and I didn't 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.880 really know what an entailed. The obviously knew that show 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:15.160 is huge and it's you know, a cultural thing for sure, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.360 So yeah, not knowing what that entail. It was. Actually 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.439 the Wisconsin Nebraska games is going back ten years ago. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.480 I think Russell Wilson was a senior. So I get 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.839 to Can't Randall and they put me in like a 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.960 trailer and you know, going through the pre show stuff, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.360 and I walk out of that trailer too. I don't 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.920 know how many thousands this must be what it feels 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.400 like to be in college athlete. Thousands of people chanting 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.320 my name as if I was starting quarterback for the Badgers. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.280 It was incredible. Sat up there did the picks. Of 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.760 course I picked Wisconsin because I was scared to get 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.720 booed by all the fans that Can't Randall. But yeah, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.960 it was the most intimidated I've ever been in any 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.880 type of media situation in my whole career. College Game 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.840 Day Live, well, now, picking games this was before gambling 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.040 was widespread legal across the country, so when they were 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.679 picking games, it wasn't from a gambling perspective. Now, of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.520 course they can incorporate that in the broadcast. I know 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.720 at my time at ESPN, we always laughed it was 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.880 like the elephant in the room because we would all 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.200 know the point spread, but you can't really say it, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.400 and then you know, if they're going for two, We're 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.599 all kind of tongue in cheek, like, oh, this is 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.280 gonna upset some people, you know, stuff like that. So 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.720 you said you're a veteran gambler. So at the time 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.520 you had to have known what you were talking about 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.280 when you were picking teams. I did. I think I 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.079 had to make a conscious effort not to be yeah, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.240 I like, you know, I don't I like the point 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.360 like not nothing like that, I think saying you like 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.920 the points or stuff like that. And of course Lee 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.160 Corso took the opposite team and they booed him and yeah, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.120 and then we went. That's why I got to go 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.120 to Big Tong College. I went after the game to 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.760 like the was like the K Club or whatever they 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.200 have at Wisconsin where everyone goes to the college kid 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.679 for two days. Yeah, the k K Thank you. I 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.040 never got to experience any college campus life, so for 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.800 two days I had it and it was wonderful. I 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.520 think Madison is one of the best college campuses in 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.240 the country. I've got to put my alma mater up 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.040 there with it. Athens, Georgia u G a reigning national champs. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.079 So have you ever been Athens? By the way, I haven't, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.560 but I really feel your energy. I just you you 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.559 have to be crazy excited for college football to kick 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.680 off kicked off technically, but to really get going because 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.040 you've got a squad too to look forward to. Oh yeah, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.439 oh yeah. I I've covered college football for years, mostly 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.120 on the sideline. Now the last two years I really 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.880 just do the SEC Championship on the sideline, which is 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.560 amazing because my alma mater usually makes it to that game. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.679 I saw him win a couple of years ago. They 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.880 lost last year to Alabama before winning the national championship. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.040 But the SEC Championship is always the appetizer to the 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.600 National championship, so both have that same energy. I've been 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.720 at both, and oh my god, it's so exciting, and 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.320 watching your alma mater win is just such a good feeling. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.280 When they hadn't won for you know what, thirty years 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.400 or something, and it it just forty years, and it 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.280 just was so much fun to watch. But you know, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:17.920 we have a guest coming on who's going to give 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.440 us a great preview, Sports illustrated writer Pat Forty. He 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.720 has an amazing podcast. I never miss it. I'm gonna 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.520 ask him all about it. But he just had the 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.920 cover story for SI on George's quarterback Stetson been Itt 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.319 did you read that. I did read it. It was 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.880 an amazing story, so well written, but just you really 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.400 felt like you were along on that little brief journey. Yeah, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.440 it was great. I encourage everyone to read that article 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.560 if you haven't read it already. It's so good. But see, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.040 that's why people love college football, and sometimes college football 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.600 fans and NFL fans don't overlap. There's such a kind 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:57.720 of wholesomeness about college football and pageantry and in generational 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.719 fandom and all of this. Now it's getting a bit 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.280 watered down now that money is coming into the equation 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.560 with n I y L and the transfer portal, and 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.559 there's a lot to get to. So well, we'll pick 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.199 Pat Fortis brain on that. But first we gotta find 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.120 you a college football team. Man. You can't just sit 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.400 back all season hosting the show with me and not 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.840 have a college football team. So I did put it 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.480 out on Twitter. I got some really good recommendations, and 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.559 I'm curious to hear yours if you have any recommendations, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.560 And maybe we could talk to path Forward about it too. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:29.120 I'm sure he'll have some insight. I will say I 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.440 had a crazy thought and something did happen when I 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.840 was up in Detroit again at one of these charity 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.040 golf tournaments this past week. You know, living in Cleveland, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.640 family full of Buckeye fans, and so many of them 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.840 went to Ohio State, and and you know that's really 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.120 what the city and the state that they love their 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.839 Browns and their Bengals and all that, but Ohio State. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:56.560 I'm thinking about going full he'll turn and maybe picking 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.480 a rival of Ohio staffel. Like the easy thing to 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.400 do is all in love with your team in law 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.240 and go buck Eyes. That's so easy, no emotional connection 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.640 for me. I'm thinking about going rogue, just up in Detroit. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.360 So that's a sneak preview of maybe of how I'm getting. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.040 So I am getting suede by people who have wolverine blood, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.760 think about going full heel turn in the Ferrara house 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.680 full heel turn. Oh, I mean the you know, you're 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.360 married with two kids. It's not like you can piss 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.400 off your in laws to the point where they change 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.400 their mind about you at this point, So I mean, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.600 what do you got to lose? Horrible take though I 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.640 thought I was going to try to convince you to 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.560 come to Madison, now that I know that you did 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.200 game Day up there, and Madison is such a great town. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.160 I thought maybe I could get you on the Badger bandwagon. Yeah, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.400 it's out there. I mean, I don't know. There's been 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.520 a lot of great recommendations. I know you and I 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.400 even talked off the air about like maybe the like 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.480 Maryland ter Terribans. I thought that was your recommendation, right 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:03.680 because of the like Turtle. Yes, yeah, that's definitely there. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.920 Yeah you got you got any other Rex for me? 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.600 Before we may be asked? Pat? Okay, you seem like 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.440 a guy who really is into footwear, So what about Oregon? 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.760 You can always have a clean pair of Nikes on. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.480 You could talk to Phil Knight, maybe get on the sideline. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.360 If they keep the steady flow of product coming into 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.920 the Ferrara House that I've enjoyed over the years, I 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.560 could definitely Yeah, I could definitely go that way for sure. Okay, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.880 very West Coast for me, though, I don't know. I'm 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.200 I'm such an East clost guy, but I could definitely 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.200 do that. I'm telling you right now the Wolverines are leading, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.640 because I really want to be the enemy now. I 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.880 think that will be the most fun for me. And 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:51.000 i'd be I got invited to practice. I got another one. Okay, Okay, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.840 I mean that's cool. Well, if you still want to 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.760 go the opposite direction, stay in Ohio. How about University 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.400 of Cincinnati. They're a team right there on the cusp 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.680 of national prominence. They made the College Football Playoff last year. Yeah, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.520 you know, I could definitely get into that. I don't 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.600 think that's a big enough hell. Like I think, if 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:12.320 you're gonna do Cincinnati, you should just go full enemy 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.720 and go absolute rival of the buck Eyes. I I 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.960 think that's not quite enough. Although they're a very very 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.080 good team on the way up. So yeah, I'm leading 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.560 the Michigan I got invited to practice yesterday. By experience. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.200 They said they'll put me from I'm being wooed. Who 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.560 invited you? I'm not unnamed source. This is what my 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.360 co host has taught me over the years. And also 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.920 something else that came out of Detroit, and unnamed source 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.520 told me that the Seahawks are not gonna win that division. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.520 And it's someone who knows a lot more about football 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.400 than I do. Oh, we gotta talk with Peter Andrew 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.280 about that at the end, because last week you had 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.640 you caused some ripples when you said they were going 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.240 to win the division. But yeah, there's a there's more 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.080 to get to on that story. Let's go ahead and 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.520 bring in our guests, because we got to find you 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.600 a college football team, and I think he's just the 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:08.880 guy to do it. Let's get to Pat Forty. He's 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.520 an award winning journalist who has covered college sports for 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.320 over three decades. Oh my gosh, he spent more time 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.000 on campus than a fifth year senior Sports Illustrated senior writer. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.760 Pat Forty, thanks so much for being here, Pat Olivia Jeria, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.680 happy to be with you. Happy football season. I gotta 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.159 say your podcast is one I don't miss. I've listened 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.680 to for years. I feel like I know you and Dan. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.199 I laughed so hard every time I listened to it. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:38.359 I've survived rotating host, rotating names, The Chicken Wars, People's Court, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.040 the College Football Enquirer. Everyone should check out this podcast 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.560 as the college football season is starting. You can thank 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.280 me later. You know you genuinely seem to have a 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.800 lot of fun doing it. I know you love this 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.840 league so much. It's never changed as much as it 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.560 has in the last couple of years. From the playoff, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.960 transfer port hole and I L. What keeps you coming 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.600 back to college ball? Well, actually that exactly, Olivia is 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:09.000 the fact that it is NonStop entertainment. There is something crazy, ridiculous, 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.720 absurd happening all the time. The off season is really 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.760 not even much of an off season anymore. Between you know, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.639 if you go back to and COVID, where we even 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.520 gonna play, where we're gonna have a season. Then last 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.800 year I was actually in Tokyo at the Olympics, and 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.120 all of a sudden, Texas and Oklahoma decide, oh we're 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.480 leaving and going from the Big twelve to the SEC. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.440 And then this year you have USC and U c 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.040 l A going with the Big ten, and then as 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.440 you mentioned, transfer portal n I L. I mean, it's 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.159 a great sport, but it's a mess, and keeping up 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.800 with the mess is actually you know, keeps the job fresh, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.040 that's for sure. Absolutely, and with no real governing body, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.199 is you guys always talked about on the show, it 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.920 it's a wild wild West in college football. But what's 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.359 your biggest fear? As these things are evolving, what's your 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.680 biggest fear at NC double A moving forward? I think 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.800 that football is gonna swallow everything, including itself in terms 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.359 of what's best for the sport. It's gonna swallow basketball. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.440 It's gonna harm the Olympic sports. But in the quest 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.080 for revenue, I think it'll it'll harm itself too. You know, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.680 I don't think it's a good development to have USC 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.359 and U c l A playing in the same conference 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.600 with Maryland and Records. It doesn't make sense. College football 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.639 is at its best when you have every region of 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:27.320 the country involved and following their schools or their leagues 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.680 and then seeing how they do against the other leagues, 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.640 when you get to bowl games and in the into 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.200 the playoff, and and if you just turn this into 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.160 the a f C and the NFC basically and everybody 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.000 else is kind of cast to the side. That takes 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.080 away what's unique about college football, what's different from the NFL, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.159 and the NFL is an awesome product. We don't need 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.119 two nfls. We need something distinct and separate, And you know, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.800 I think that we are a great risk of of 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.280 really losing the fabric of what makes that sport different 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:01.040 at that level. How do you see teams now fundraising 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.520 ultimately getting money to athletes as part of you know, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.439 an il recruiting and for someone who hasn't kept up 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.000 with how this works and where is the money coming from? 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.359 If you're almost explaining to someone who hasn't fully kept 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.679 out because it's all changing rapidly now it is, and 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.080 that's been one of the biggest developments, especially as the 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.440 money has become a recruiting inducement and not just a 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.760 reward for having already performed on a on a campus. 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.640 So where it's coming from. The money's coming from boosters, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.120 it's coming from the fans. And you know, frankly hey, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.119 in the nineteen eighties, nineties, early two thousands, that money 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.320 was getting to the athletes one way or another, usually 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.400