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Speaker 1: Stay away from these names. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast.

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Speaker 2: That is me, Joey p Joe Piezapia, and today we're

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Speaker 2: going to have a great debate about the players to

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Speaker 2: avoid in twenty twenty three. And I can tell you

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Speaker 2: already some of these names we disagree on, So it's

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Speaker 2: a little draft advice, and also we're gonna do a

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Speaker 2: little what's trending?

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Speaker 1: I got a permission to do.

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Speaker 2: That today on the show, and what's trending today on

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Speaker 2: Twitter actually is Joe Peshi, who celebrating his eightieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: And I have a true Joe Peshi story that I'm

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Speaker 2: going to share at the end of the show, So

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Speaker 2: make sure you stick around for that because that's gonna

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Speaker 1: Welsh.

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Speaker 2: I know we talk about players to avoid, but so

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Speaker 2: much of this sometimes is more about not necessarily disliking

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Speaker 2: the player, but disliking the cost of the player.

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Speaker 1: Was that accurate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well definitely. I think I actually am envious

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Speaker 3: sometimes of some of the people out there that are

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Speaker 3: there's no circumstance or I'll ever like this player, I

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Speaker 3: hate them. They're gone, and they have these robust lists.

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Speaker 3: Of these are the bus and I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of it can be circumstantial. There are guys that a

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Speaker 3: lot of mine exist, and like this guy, I don't

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Speaker 3: like maybe the way that they are theoretically going to

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big hate guy, Joe, you know me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a lover. I'm not a fighter, So I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna hate on all these guys. There are circumstances, but

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Speaker 3: I will say the difference of yours there is one

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Speaker 3: I adamantly love. I'm with a lot of your other

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Speaker 3: I could find reasons I could see two or three

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Speaker 3: of my guys jumping on one of my draft lists.

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Speaker 3: But at some point there's got to be players we avoid,

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Speaker 3: and the cost based on the production that you can

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Speaker 3: get and sometimes even positionally is what feeds some of this.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes and one of.

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Speaker 2: The guys on your list is I like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to put on my list, And then what happened was

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Speaker 2: the more I dug into them, the more I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I just can't do it. I think this guy's for real.

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Speaker 2: So all right, so you know, enough teasing, enough nonsense.

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot of teases here, we got

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Speaker 2: important stories at the end of the show, lots of

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Speaker 2: things happening, but.

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Speaker 1: Real life Joe Peshi story.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, before we get to all of that, these

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Speaker 2: players were talking about you may want to avoid, may not.

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Speaker 1: You gotta start practicing.

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Speaker 2: draft on Welsh. Let's start with your number five guy

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Speaker 2: on your players to Avoid list in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: All right, I think this is one that you're not

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Speaker 3: That that's part of the problem. It's Dalton Varshow, and

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Speaker 1: That number. It's a good number, it's a good point

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that to the bank.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting or in the two catcher leagues, I think

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Speaker 2: But what you're saying, there's definitely it's not like going

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Speaker 3: Listen, there's a lot of potential RBI opportunities that are

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Speaker 3: You can get a Varshow type player in MJ. Melndez,

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Speaker 3: I would never draft Dalton var Show, but when I

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know outfield isn't the greatest. He played one

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Speaker 3: I know you disagree, why, Yeah, this is the one

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Speaker 3: was actually even though this was his first year in adjustment,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty consistent. He hit almost to the average two

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Speaker 3: sixty five between lefties and righties, two sixty nine against lefties,

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Speaker 3: two seventy two in the first half, no major regression

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Speaker 3: in the second half. He actually hit more homers with

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Speaker 2: they were like, Okay, we don't want to get this

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Speaker 3: this guy hit thirty seven homers in Japan, and you know, yes,

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Speaker 3: Seyasuzuki outperformed Dalton our show, who we just talked about,

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Speaker 3: and that's why he is one of my targets, you

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Speaker 3: would be awesome, like all five Do you think it

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All I say is this, he's not gonna take batting

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Speaker 2: home runs, stolen bases probably also and counting stat's sure

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Speaker 3: Trying to look at our show's numbers last year, because

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Speaker 2: Well, we got a lot of players to get through.

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Speaker 2: Still number four for you on your list of players

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Speaker 2: to avoid? Well, sho you got all right?

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Speaker 3: Number four? As a pull up the list here, This

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Speaker 3: Jonathan India and I am not a Jonathan India guy. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he's at one ninety two on this list. He's really

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, maybe not one ninety really falls out.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like what a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: bounce back, when in fact it was it was atrocious

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Speaker 3: hit bottom three percent in exit velocity, ten homers, three

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Speaker 3: stolen bases on a two forty nine average. An incredible

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Speaker 3: number two was how he performed off off of fastballs.

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Speaker 3: His hard hit went way down year over year comparative.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually trying to find it just went away from me.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree while you're looking for that stat because

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the guys got hype type typed and

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Speaker 2: it's it's funny because Cincinnati is starting to get a

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one against forcing fastballs, he had a

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Speaker 3: dropped down to thirty one percent. Thirty one percent. He's

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Speaker 3: just wasn't at a good rate. Here's one other little

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Speaker 3: thing I'd add to it as well. On ADPs, I

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Speaker 3: but listen, Josh Rojas beat him in almost every category.

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Speaker 3: He had about fifty or sixty more at bats, which

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Speaker 3: I'll obviously acknowledge, but he beat him by almost twenty

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Speaker 3: more runs. Twenty more RBIs, twenty stolen bases, had one

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Speaker 3: twenty points more on the batting average, and he's going

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Speaker 3: behind Jonathan India and he qualifies the two positions. That's silly.

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing the buyback on Jonathan India. If he

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Speaker 3: works cool, I'm not going to be there. I'd much

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Speaker 3: rather have Joshua all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't want Cabrian Hayes. He's number four on

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Speaker 2: my list and this.

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Speaker 3: Is the one I almost put on mine as well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, I'm I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sure, you know, Brian Reynolds there for however long

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Speaker 2: but he's a player that's going backwards. The twenty steals

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Speaker 2: is great, Like, I understand he's going to be popular

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Speaker 2: And I understand, you know, he's had some injuries, and

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Speaker 2: I get that. You know, you go back to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: hitting three seventy six. There the twenty four games he

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Speaker 1: But then you get the.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six games in twenty one, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: a guy who's hitting two fifty. It's getting it on

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Speaker 2: I get excited about the draft. I'm just not doing it.

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Speaker 1: I know, if you're late on steals at the end

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Speaker 1: But I just don't like Haze Welsh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was also worried, like the barrels per plate

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Speaker 3: almost like like Jeff McNeal is fine, he always kind

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Speaker 3: I always was like of a believer in him. I'm

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Speaker 3: Like what did you say it was?

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Speaker 1: It's like one one eighty two. I mean it's not that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's lower than I've seen in drafts. Though

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Speaker 3: that's not that bad, but I've seen Look.

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Speaker 1: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 2: And I told you for the steals, I get it,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's not a player

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Speaker 2: I want. I'd rather in that range. If I'm looking

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a player von Gersom's at one eighty nine. Like,

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Speaker 2: Breeze Singer is in that range. There's players there, Grayson

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Speaker 1: Than where he is.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's go back to you for your

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Speaker 2: number three guy on your list of players to avoid.

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Speaker 1: Who is it?

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Speaker 3: All right? So, Toronto people, I do love you, but

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Speaker 3: I don't love Wit Marrifield, Whit Maryfield.

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Speaker 1: I hate the Canadians today.

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Speaker 3: I guess I do. Well, I'm about to pick on another.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well there's another place that'll hate me more

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Speaker 3: But blue as blue can be blue is his jersey.

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Speaker 3: Was a Baseball Savant page for Wit Maryfield this past year.

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Speaker 3: A hard hit at a low Obviously, it's not never

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Speaker 3: Like we talked about with Dalton Varshow, it's a worst

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Speaker 2: That's sad if that, but that's just how I feel.

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Speaker 2: That thing was just mechanical and mental last year for him.

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Speaker 2: This is a player that again, I think that I'm

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Speaker 2: what the ceiling is. And look, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: you know, going to hit you know, twenty home runs

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Speaker 2: But if you can hit a dozen home runs and

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Speaker 2: give me thirty steals, like, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand what you're saying, Toronto.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're getting thirty steels though. I don't

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Speaker 2: Going to only do if he starts to make better

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Speaker 1: We always talk about that.

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Speaker 2: With a bird's on Mondsey, right, you can't steal first.

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Speaker 2: But you know Merrifield. I'm not ready to give up yet,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the thing that works in his favor is

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Speaker 3: which is the lowest of his entire career. Not trying

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Speaker 3: you've got a more suppressed ballpark, you've got a place

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Speaker 3: it's obtainable. He's not expensive, but I don't want him.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want any exposure to wit Mirrifield million

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Speaker 3: other places I'd rather go, so he's on my no

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: This one hurts because this is a player that I've

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Speaker 2: had shares of. In fact, his best season, we had

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Speaker 2: all the shares of this guy and it was amazing

470
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Speaker 2: because that year the guy hit thirty nine home runs.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, Dan Harris and I Boyd did

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Speaker 2: we love us of Mitch Hanneger, But now he's in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. I do not love this ballpark for right

474
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Speaker 2: handed power guys. This is not necessarily where I'm looking. Also,

475
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Speaker 2: just you know, the frustrations of the games played for

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Speaker 2: Mitchaniker at the end of the day and right now,

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Speaker 2: you know the ECRs at one fifty five, the ADPs

478
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Speaker 2: at on fifty eight for him over on Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: It's all there.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at a player right now that

483
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Speaker 2: you know, do I get one hundred games out of him?

484
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Speaker 2: And that's more than anything the investment, because when he

485
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Speaker 2: plays one hundred and fifty games, you know what you're

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Speaker 2: getting out of him, which is a pretty decent player.

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Speaker 2: And I know outfield is sparse. I know it is

488
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Speaker 2: really a difficult position and you're gonna want to take

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Speaker 2: some shots and some guys later on, but it just

490
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Speaker 2: feels like one that's just going to be doomed to

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Speaker 2: fail when it comes to Mitch Haniger.

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Speaker 1: For me, so good that.

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Speaker 2: The park you know it it should it should theoretically,

494
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Speaker 2: but d H has been in the American League, you know,

495
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Speaker 2: and look last year he fifty seven games. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I think with Mitch Haniger, my thing is it's I

497
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Speaker 2: like the player. I'm rooting for Mitch Haniger. I'm just

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Speaker 2: not gonna have any shares of Mitch Haniger probably unless

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Speaker 2: you know, things really go awry and I'm just throwing

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Speaker 2: some darts out there. But Hanniger is a player that

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Speaker 2: I have a big red flag on this year. I

502
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Speaker 2: don't like him in San fram I just think it's

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Speaker 2: a bad spot for him. Coupled with the lack of

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Speaker 2: games played throughout his career. It's just been a real

505
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Speaker 2: bummer for me. We've seen the high point, but I

506
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Speaker 2: think when we chase that it's just an error.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a little indifferent about him, you know.

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Speaker 3: Funny enough, I don't think I really get shares on him.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually getting more of a Conforto when I'm putting

511
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Speaker 3: it out there.

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Speaker 1: And Confordo's cheaper.

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Speaker 3: He's much cheaper. I got him as much as out Boiler. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and a twelve team head to head mock draft that

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Speaker 3: we just did and By the way, I meant to

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Speaker 3: mention this before, but we jumped right into the episode

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Speaker 3: one sixty.

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Speaker 1: Four for Hanneger, two fifteen for Conforto.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, yeah, he was my fifth one. I wanted

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Speaker 3: to get this in when you were doing your ad

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Speaker 3: on the Draft Wizard, but we jumped right into it.

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Speaker 3: we do when I do the end this league stuff,

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Speaker 3: and something we found out that's so cool. If anyone

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Speaker 3: ever does it after the draft and analyzes your draft,

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Speaker 3: you see all the cool things. Were like, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: Joe loves your draft the most, and here's your steals.

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Speaker 3: on that. We had no idea if you click on

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Speaker 3: that on the projected standings, so you don't just get

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Speaker 3: your own you can get a breakdown of every single

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Speaker 3: person when you do the Draft Wizard on that. So

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Speaker 3: I just want to let people know about that. Click

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Speaker 3: on it, you'll get all the cool stuff. Who loved,

537
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Speaker 3: who hated? But Conflorida in that I took as my

538
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Speaker 3: fifth outfielder in this twelfth team. Head to head, I

539
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Speaker 3: don't even really think about Mitch Haniger to your point,

540
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Speaker 3: He's really not on my radar because I kind of

541
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Speaker 3: think they're similar to the same player. If Hanniger is

542
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Speaker 3: the DH, maybe that's gonna help with longevity. But like

543
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Speaker 3: you said, it's it was an al thing as well,

544
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Speaker 3: and Thyrostrada is going to be in the outfield, which

545
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Speaker 3: maybe pushes him off a little bit as far as

546
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Speaker 3: like ability to go in the outfield, which might be

547
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Speaker 3: a help. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I don't know

548
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Speaker 3: if I would pick this guy out, but I can't

549
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Speaker 3: imagine I ever take this guy at the cost that

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Speaker 3: you're putting him, so he's probably a.

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Speaker 2: Make a great point. I thought the same thing about Conforida.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I could just wait a bunch of

553
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Speaker 2: pigs later and try CONFORDO. I know he hasn't played

554
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Speaker 2: in the year, but you know, Gnforida's track record when

555
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Speaker 2: healthy was also pretty good, and I guess the cost

556
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Speaker 2: is completely different. All right, Before we get to more

557
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Speaker 2: draft advice, we've got a couple other guys here to

558
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Speaker 2: talk about that we want to avoid. So Welsh, you're

559
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Speaker 2: number two guy on your list?

560
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Speaker 1: Who is it?

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Speaker 4: All? Right?

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Speaker 3: So I struggle with this one. There's actually two guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell everybody the two guys. I'm gonna just

564
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Speaker 3: put it out there. The guy almost picked was on

565
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Speaker 3: my Arizona Diaback team, Jack McCarthy. I almost picked interested

566
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Speaker 3: on this list. The projections are wild, and I have

567
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Speaker 3: a hard time believing he's really gonna like lead the

568
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Speaker 3: league or be near the top of stolen bases. I

569
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Speaker 3: think Corbyn Carrol's gonna outrun him. The power I don't

570
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Speaker 3: know about. I almost picked him. I decided to move off,

571
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Speaker 3: but I went with the other guy, and it's Stephen Kuan.

572
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Speaker 3: I don't like the cost of Stephen Kwan right now,

573
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Speaker 3: especially on the return. It's one seventeen is the ADP.

574
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Speaker 3: But guess what outfield stinks everyone's reaching. Kwan always goes up.

575
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Speaker 3: He's always further in every draft that I've been doing,

576
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Speaker 3: and this is I just don't There's so much I

577
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Speaker 3: don't believe in. First off, I don't believe in any

578
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: power numbers progressing. Where what did he have six homers

579
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Speaker 3: in almost one hundred and fifty games last year?

580
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Speaker 2: Stolen sicks in the second half, so it came on

581
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Speaker 2: late the power.

582
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Speaker 1: No barrels three of them in September.

583
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Speaker 3: By the way, no Barrel's one of the lowest hard

584
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Speaker 3: hit I had average exit of which is bottom three

585
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Speaker 3: percent of the league. Of eighty five point one hard

586
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Speaker 3: hit was bottom one percent of the entire league. So

587
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Speaker 3: a lot of this was built off of him being

588
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Speaker 3: able to all of a sudden start stealing a whole

589
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Speaker 3: bunch of bases. And what I'm worried about is you're

590
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Speaker 3: paying almost a hot top one hundred cost for what

591
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Speaker 3: I think is really a two category player, good average,

592
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Speaker 3: good runs. I think the stolen bases are going to regress.

593
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Speaker 3: Every projection system agrees with that. There's really no homers

594
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Speaker 3: to speak of, and there's no significant RBI. So why

595
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Speaker 3: am I paying close to a top one hundred value

596
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Speaker 3: for a two category player that's not going to score

597
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Speaker 3: one hundred runs by the way, So it's not elite

598
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Speaker 3: runs and abatting average is elite. So I'm gonna say

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Speaker 3: no thank you to the cost of Stephen Kuan. I'd

600
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Speaker 3: rather McCarthy over him. I think it's just too expensive

601
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Speaker 3: for what you really get in return. Different in points leagues,

602
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Speaker 3: but headhead and Rodo no thanks.

603
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Speaker 2: Fascinating because Kwan was a guy that I thought was

604
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Speaker 2: going to make my list, and then I had him

605
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Speaker 2: on there started to dig a little deeper and stuff,

606
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Speaker 2: and I went, you know what, And you know the

607
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Speaker 2: difference between you and I is I am a points league.

608
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Speaker 2: So I like Stephen Kwan because he's gonna just dink

609
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Speaker 2: and doink people every week to death.

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Speaker 3: I love that I put him up. Yeah, I'd be beat.

611
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Speaker 2: And I think that I think my perspective is probably

612
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Speaker 2: skewed a little bit because I'm looking at a player

613
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Speaker 2: that showed, you know, we talked about Suzuki before. This

614
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Speaker 2: was a player that you know, I feel like Chris Collinsworth.

615
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Speaker 2: Now here's a guy. Then the second part of the year,

616
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Speaker 2: things went better. Batting average went from two seventy nine

617
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Speaker 2: to three seventeen, OBP went from three sixty one to

618
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Speaker 2: three eighty four, the slugging went from three to fifty

619
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Speaker 2: nine to four to thirty nine, and the ops went

620
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Speaker 2: from seven to twenty to a twenty three, So all

621
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Speaker 2: those things started going in the right direction. He added

622
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Speaker 2: the fourteen steals to fourteen of the nineteen steals he

623
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Speaker 2: had came in the second half. I am agreement with

624
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Speaker 2: you wholeheartedly. I don't see him as a power guy.

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Speaker 2: It's five home runs, six home runs, whatever. But I

626
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Speaker 2: do believe you're correct in he's probably a guy to

627
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Speaker 2: avoid at cost in roto leagues, but in points leagues

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that I like because I feel like

629
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Speaker 2: he's almost underappreciated because it's not flashy. You know, he's

630
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Speaker 2: not gonna hit thirty home runs. He's not gonna get

631
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Speaker 2: your points that way.

632
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Speaker 1: But but week to.

633
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Speaker 2: Week, man, this guy's gonna show up and get you fifteen.

634
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Speaker 2: It's just not gonna be the prettiest fifteen. And I

635
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Speaker 2: kind of like that about Kwan, so good stuff there.

636
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Speaker 2: I like this different perspectives. All right, here's time for

637
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Speaker 2: my number two. I think Welsh is gonna be on

638
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Speaker 2: board with this one. Chris Sale can't do it, can't

639
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Speaker 2: do it, won't do it. One seventy six. The Red

640
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Speaker 2: Sox are terrible. That's the adp right now of Chris Sale.

641
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Speaker 2: I don't know how long he's gonna pitch what it's

642
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Speaker 2: gonna look like. And it's so comical to me, Welsh,

643
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Speaker 2: because the first part of Chris Sale's career, all we

644
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Speaker 2: heard was there's no way this guy can sustain.

645
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Speaker 1: He's the mechanics will be okay, is rubber arm all

646
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Speaker 1: these things right? You know what? And then he was dominant, dominant, dominant.

647
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Speaker 2: Dominant, And then eventually the wheels came off, and how

648
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: the wheels are off on a bad team and a

649
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: tough division where he's gonna have to go out there

650
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: and face the Yankees and you know, the Rays are

651
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: always good, and then you're gonna have to face oh wait,

652
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: this Toronto team that's outstanding, and and you know what,

653
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: the Baltimore.

654
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: Offense is much better.

655
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: I think the people realize and might be again this year,

656
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: if not better. So to me, I'm just out on

657
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: Chris Sale. I understand the I understand looking at Chris

658
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: Sale and going, oh, I could be sneaky here and

659
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: get this value. I just don't know how many things

660
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna realistically get out of him. And once again,

661
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the other you know players in that range.

662
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: There guys out there that Charlie Morton going right next

663
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: to him in ADP. It's not even close for not

664
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: even give me every single day over Sale.

665
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: One hundred out of one hundred times. I'll take Charlie Morton.

666
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: I love Charlie Morton's actually gonna be something in the

667
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: draft advice we talked about. Yeah, No, I'm I think

668
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more indifferent about Chris Sale. I

669
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: don't really have interests, so I get I would. I'm

670
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: comfortable putting him on this list. I don't want to

671
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: say that he can't. I actually think the Red Sox

672
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: have constructed kind of a sneaky little team that might

673
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: be able to manufacture and get a little runs whatever,

674
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: But he's just such a liability. I did see him

675
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: go past two hundred in a draft, which I think

676
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: makes him a little bit more interesting. But I just

677
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: I still didn't pull the trigger. I'm just really not

678
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: interested in Chrisale right now.

679
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: Okay, number one on your list A player to avoid

680
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Welsh we got here?

681
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Who is it? All? Right?

682
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: So this one it still stings, and I really don't

683
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: have great reasons behind it because of what he was

684
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: able to do. And the number one guy is Shane

685
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Bieber and I know Guardians fans, I don't like that.

686
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: What's that?

687
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: It's what sacrilege. I love the beabs.

688
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: You're avoiding him. I was too strong of a word.

689
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: I like avoiding him.

690
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: Picture. But here's my problem with it. Last year, and

691
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: this is famous to what happened last year. We saw

692
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: decreases like across the board, spin rate on the fastball

693
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: dropped almost fifteen hundred. We had a two hundred drop

694
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: on the slider. I'm just going through the numbers here.

695
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: No slider, Yeah, slider was about one hundred. The curveball

696
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: ended up having a two hundred r pm decrease. I

697
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: mean spin decreases across the board, You had fastball velocity decreases.

698
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: You just had these massive decreases that guess what he

699
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: did though, and this is what anyone would argue. He

700
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: still produced, which was incredible, and I don't want to

701
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: not acknowledge that. My problem is is he is built

702
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: off of being able to command the ball pound the zone.

703
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: Obviously still really good spin rates even though he lost it.

704
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: But that type of stuff decrease. I'm worried, and especially

705
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: at this age, it feels very similar to like Clayton

706
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Kershaw last year. It didn't catch up. I'm worried it

707
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: is going to catch up this year that all of

708
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: those decreases we will start to see come down. And

709
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: if that happens, I think it's gonna be messy. And

710
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: he still comes at a pretty high cost. But he produced.

711
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: So listen, this is one that I'm giving a big caveat.

712
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: Am I telling you do not draft Shane Bieber. No,

713
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: he goes deep into games, He's gonna get wins on

714
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: a good team and stuff like that. But am I

715
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: gonna take him. No, I'm avoiding him because I think

716
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: those are big warning signs. Maybe it's a one off,

717
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: and maybe this year we're gonna see the fastball increase

718
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: a little bit or something like that, and we'll all

719
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: be happy and everyone will cheer and everyone will be excited.

720
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: But listen, at the ADP cost which is currently was

721
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: it fifty six pictures that are in that market, in

722
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: that range, I'd rather pass on Bieber and wait another

723
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: round or two. Give me Luis Castillo, give me Zach Callen,

724
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: let me have you Darvish, let me have Joe Muskro and.

725
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: All those guys.

726
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: I agree with it, avoids. I agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly.

727
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: He's going in the same range as Zach Wheeler and Urius.

728
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Bieber than both those guys. I just

729
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: trust bieber Way more. And if you're keeping score at home,

730
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: Welsh doesn't like anyone who plays for the Guardians or

731
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays.

732
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: No, I'll avoid them all well, George Vlaiir, If it's

733
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: a prospect, George Vlaiir, I talk about any place I

734
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: possibly can, I should hold on. Let me think of

735
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: a player. I really like Andre Samenez. I like a

736
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: mid Rosario, even though he ruined me last year. And

737
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: then let me get a good Toronto player. I love

738
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: Taskar Hernandez, who you guys traded to Seattle. So I

739
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: want to say something nice.

740
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: So you still can't do that? All right?

741
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: My number one guy for twenty twenty three to avoid

742
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: And this breaks my heart because I love the guy.

743
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: It's Bryce Harper. He's going at one fifteen. Still he's

744
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: not going to play till the All Star Game. What

745
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: are you crazy? What are you nuts? Why are you

746
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: doing this to yourself? It is hard enough to get

747
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: a team healthy enough to be relevant by the time

748
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: you get to the All Star break. You're going to

749
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: put a pick at one fifteen overall on a player

750
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: who's not going to play, but he's not going to

751
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: play until then, and that's barring any other circumstances. And

752
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: I know he's tough, and I know he's going to

753
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: try to push it because he's Bryce Harper, and I

754
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: love the dude.

755
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I love Bryce Harper.

756
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: You know why I love him because he reminds me

757
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: of George Brett when I was a kid, and I

758
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: love that about him. He's tough, he's a little unlikable,

759
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: that's great, He's got fantastic hair. He won me a

760
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: ton of money at thirty to one on MVP a

761
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. So many reasons why I love

762
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper.

763
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Except you don't love him.

764
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: No, I just I'm avoiding him.

765
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, Ah, players not we hate, we're avoiding.

766
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I just think this is a terrible investment.

767
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: You're not getting enough of a discount currently on Bryce

768
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Harper to justify him missing April, May, June, and probably

769
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: most of July.

770
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: It's absurd that he's where he is in ADP right nowheat.

771
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you. He was a lot cheaper

772
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: earlier on and he's starting to get a little bit

773
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: more expensive. I'm probably a big old out on Rodo.

774
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: To head's a little bit different for me because the

775
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: idea of getting him back, the impact he could have

776
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: on the back half and a playoff run is exponentially

777
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: different than just like counting up some of the stature

778
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: going to get. But I'm still not going to pay

779
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: like top one hundred, top one fi. I need like

780
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: one fifty. I need like a real discount on Bryce Harper,

781
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: and it's got to be head to head otherwise I'm

782
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: avoiding or actually no on fangrafts a dynasty platform. I

783
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: just took Bryce Harper and I got him for dirt cheap.

784
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: But it's a Dynasty league. That's about the only.

785
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: Place keeper situation totally different. You reach on Harper early,

786
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: that's fine. I don't care if you get any discount,

787
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Take it run. Just to recap to Dalton

788
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: var Show, Jonathan India, Whit Murrayfield, Stephen Kwan, Shane Bieber,

789
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: Welsh is avoiding, I'm avoiding Saya Suzuki, Kabrian Hayes, Mitch Hanniger,

790
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Chris Sale, and Bryce Harper. Before we get to my

791
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: Joe Pecci story. Quick nuggets of draft advice three things

792
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: from each of us. Number one for me, address outfield early.

793
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna sound like broken records, but I

794
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: kind of keep driving that home to everybody. It is

795
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: rough out there, and you're playing four or five outfielders

796
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: active in your lineups, you better have a plan. Hit

797
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: that twenty five to thirty five sp group hard. The

798
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: group that Welsh is just mentioning, that's the group you

799
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: want to be in. Where the guys from Toronto are,

800
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, Manoa, Gossman, the guys from San Diego, Guys

801
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: like Musgrove, you Darvish. That's a great group. And Number

802
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: three for me, focus on good offenses when drafting hitters

803
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: and pitchers. Okay, you know we talk about this in

804
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: the NFL version of our show. Here, we're gonna talk

805
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: about enough in the MLB version.

806
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: It matters. Lineup protection matters, It helps the run scored.

807
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: When you have good offenses, it just lifts everybody up,

808
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: helps pitcher wins. So if you're just sign between players

809
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: they're kind of close, Take the guy in the better

810
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: team typically that's a better situation. Well, give us three

811
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: nuggets here for us, So.

812
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: I mean turn this hat because we're gonna get serious.

813
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: Look it's the DFS guy, pigs.

814
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: I do look like like I Co'm about to give

815
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: out some serious DFS.

816
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: We can't do a DFS show and where a forward

817
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: its just not you're not all out.

818
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. I actually just want to point out

819
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: that I think yours are the most important, So I'm

820
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: going to kind of just have like reiterations of yours. Well, no,

821
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: if I had, if I'd solve this first, my number

822
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: one and I just wrote, is my number one outfield

823
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: outfield outfield. I know we're saying it a lot and

824
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: it's annoying and stuff like that, but you just have

825
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: to be so cognizant this year because it really gets away.

826
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Pay attention to your formats. Sometimes they're easier to stomach,

827
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: sometimes they're not. Points leagues I think are a little

828
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: bit easier to stomach because I think all those players

829
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: there's those like contact based players are kind of move

830
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: up and the power hitters move up. But in roto

831
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: and headhead and I do a lot of five outfields.

832
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: Almost every mock I've done is a five outfield. And

833
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: if I'm not paying attention and I'm not on the

834
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: sleepers and willing in the one hundreds to start reaching

835
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: for a couple guys. It's gonna get messy. Closers get

836
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: ugly if you want any stability, So just pointing that out.

837
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: If you want lockdown closers, they go higher. I don't

838
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: think a lot of ranks and ADPs will truly show

839
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: you how competitive leagues are going to draft closers. So

840
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: be aware. The gross name closers that go in the

841
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: nineties will make you sick. You're either gonna have to

842
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: be comfortable with punting it or have a plan going

843
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: in because when the closer runs go, it can get ugly.

844
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: And you can't always get Andres Munials, though you should

845
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: draft him.

846
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: As well, says you.

847
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: I can always get I will elbow people out of

848
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: the way for that guy.

849
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: Well a lot here. That's the guy that I want

850
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: to get. And lastly, just pictures are aging kind of

851
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: like a fine wine. This little anti statement against I

852
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: guess my Shane Bieber stuff. But guys like Charlie Morton,

853
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: you know Charlie Morton, I like Andrew Heaney. Some of

854
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: the more older, boring pictures. I'm willing to move up again,

855
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Like you look at Shane Bieber, and like Kevin Gosman

856
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: goes behind, Like I'd rather have Kevin Gosman. So don't

857
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: be afraid to pair, you know, your pitching staff with

858
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: some more older, boring pictures to kind of balance, especially

859
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: if you're going younger wy to.

860
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: Qualify as older boring.

861
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you Dart Darmish is still cheap.

862
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Speaker 2: Guys are getting older then, I don't think people will

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00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: realize they're starting to get older. But yeah, I mean,

864
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: nobody's sold, just Charlie Morton at the end of the right.

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00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: So what's up with Joe Pesci?

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: What happened with you? Joe go So what's trend on

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00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Twitter today?

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00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Joe Peschi was trending because it's his eightieth birthday, which

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00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: is fantastic.

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Joe Peschi's eighty.

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00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: He is a treasure, not just for obviously Casino and

872
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Goodfellows and all the amazing performances he's given there, but

873
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: you know also the home alones of the world, you know,

874
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: little tiny, beautiful movies like with Honors. I love Joe Pesci.

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00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: I got to meet Joe Peshi when I was younger.

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: I was working at a hotel. I was in the

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Speaker 2: front desk area of the hotel and every year in

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: New Jersey, Joe Peschi would have this charity golf tournament.

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00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: It's a charity golf you know, Joe PESHI huge golfer,

880
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: big into the golf and true story.

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00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: So it's early in the morning. I'm there.

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00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm helping everybody out, you know that all the people

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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: are going out there for the golf tournament. And I

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00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: somehow end up with Joe Peschi's clubs. So I'm helping

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00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: Joe Peshe with his clubs to his car. I get

886
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: there and Joe Peschi tells me to open his trunk

887
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: and he's standing behind me as I'm holding his golf clubs,

888
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: and I will tell you Welsh it was the scariest

889
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: moment in my entire life because I didn't know what

890
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: was going to happen next.

891
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: When Joe Pesci is behind you.

892
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Says, hey, I went you open a trunk there for me.

893
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: I put my clubs in it. I don't know what's

894
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: gonna be in the trunk. In the trunk, I have

895
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: no idea what's going to go on here.

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00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: But it was like the hand on the back of

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: my head. The worst part to you is like when

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: he does that, you had to have felt like you

899
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: want to make a joke about it. But that's also

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00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: not the guy like he's most famously.

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00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: We've been in person.

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm like five seven on a good day, five to

903
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: eight maybe, And Joe Pesci, I mean, Butchino is a midget.

904
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: Schapino I gave a dwarf. I gotta say like he is.

905
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: He is very very small. Peschi is only slightly bigger

906
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: than him. He is little and incredibly intimidating of a person. Also,

907
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: at the time, he was dating Angie Everheart. I don't

908
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: know if you remember her, and google and this is why,

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: uh google it right now so you're live reaction on

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00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: the show. And this is one of those things where

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00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: you see Joe Peshi walk in with Angie Everheart to

912
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: the hotel the night before, and you go, man, Joe

913
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: Peschi's about the coolest guy.

914
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Think about how cool Joe Pesci is.

915
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm looking at I think I'm looking at

916
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: more recent. I probably need some older Oh yeah, older.

917
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Two thousand and four probably, I'm thinking here.

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00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was probably six inches.

919
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Actually, no, probably more like two thousand and seven now

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00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: that i'm thinking about.

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00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, it'd be good. I feel like for you,

922
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 3: that's like, uh, you know you're Italian guy, Like that's

923
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: one of the.

924
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Icon on Joe Pesci.

925
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, and you know what, I was

926
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: just very respectful, but you know, like I said that

927
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: moment there putting the you know, putting the key in

928
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: the trunk, trying to.

929
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: Open the like, oh, I don't know if this is

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00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: what I want to do.

931
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: But luckily golf clubs are the only thing that went

932
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Speaker 2: in there, and I lived to be here doing the show.

933
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Speaker 1: So there you go. There's a fun Joe Peshi story,

934
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Speaker 1: true story. Can't make these things up.

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00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: Also, can't make up how great the Draft Wizard is.

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Speaker 2: See what I did there. Go to fantasybros dot Com

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Speaker 2: slash Draft Wizard of download the app, get your mock

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Speaker 2: draft on. We're gonna a mock draft episode next week.

939
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Speaker 2: Joe Rico's gonna join us for that. It's gonna be

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: good times. You've got our infield preview with Frank Stanful

941
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: next week from that's gonna be great, The outfield preview,

942
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