Speaker 1: I was undecided heading in last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you are a lot of questions when they
Speaker 2: interviewed the undecided afterwards, and they're just like, mm hmmm, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just saw a bunch of lies on both sides.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, part of it feels like if you
Speaker 3: can somehow credibly say you're undecided, you will simply get
Speaker 3: to be in the New York Times every weekend. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You are a media resource. You are like the greatest
Speaker 1: jewel the media could possibly stumble.
Speaker 3: Across, scientific anomaly essentially. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was once on a jury for like a wrongful
Speaker 1: death lawsuit, and we just had this one person who
Speaker 1: was holding out for no no reason, like no, just
Speaker 1: like other then. I just don't know, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say it's basically poly shore Jerry Duty. Like
Speaker 3: the reason they're undecided is because they like what they
Speaker 3: get from being undecided.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they like the attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how else are.
Speaker 1: They going to get it?
Speaker 3: Howlse are they going to get like like allegedly the
Speaker 3: smartest people, the smartest people they deal with every day
Speaker 3: to be like, I really want to know what's in
Speaker 3: your what makes you tick.
Speaker 1: I think we should just rebrand the Daily Zeikeeist as
Speaker 1: like the last undecided podcasts, like where we haven't figured it.
Speaker 3: Out, Watch the numbers, go through the roof.
Speaker 1: Watch out, but it's all New York Times reporters. Hell
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Weed.
Speaker 1: We need you on our network somehow publish your podcast
Speaker 1: in the print edition.
Speaker 3: We just need to. We'll just yeah, we'll just have
Speaker 3: chat GPT Trent's. We'll just tip it out, no editing needed.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three point fifty five,
Speaker 1: episode four of Daily sa Guy Stay production. Yes, it
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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Thursday,
Speaker 1: September twelfth, twenty twenty four. My name is Jack O'Brien
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Speaker 4: Every time to that guys calling, I put down my
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Speaker 1: He that was nice.
Speaker 3: Well, finally finally had the time to come.
Speaker 1: Up with something that was an Andrew t ridge.
Speaker 3: I mean barely. Yeah, I was scrambling.
Speaker 1: That was great, Andrew, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm alive. I'm only working on off of secondary takes,
Speaker 3: so I did not watch the debate. So we'll see,
Speaker 3: we'll see the last second scratch, We'll see what it
Speaker 3: feels better. But a brain, you know, yeah, just I'm
Speaker 3: the first derivative of of knowledge here. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll all come. You are, you know, going off of
Speaker 1: secondhand takes that have been digested and then baby birded
Speaker 1: back into your mouth. I am an undecided voter who
Speaker 1: crotched the debate very closely, and you know, I saw it.
Speaker 1: Both sides had interesting things to say. But Andrew, we
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Speaker 1: So go check it out. Please welcome back to the show,
Speaker 1: the brilliantly talented mcle.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, y'all. Good to be with you.
Speaker 1: Good to have you here. I am yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't have an a ka, but.
Speaker 1: I know you've like sung twice. Like when you entered
Speaker 1: the chat. You were like hey, and I was like, god, damn, God,
Speaker 1: damn it. That was beautiful and I was like, oh man, soup,
Speaker 1: I'm a yeah. Anyways, So that the two things that
Speaker 1: we've discovered are we've been told by Alpha God Jesse
Speaker 1: waters are unacceptable to somebody who is masculine, is eating
Speaker 1: soup and consuming anything through a straw. Just in case
Speaker 1: you guys are wondering why the context.
Speaker 3: For my aka solids only no waters. For water, yes,
Speaker 3: has to be in the form of a brick like salt.
Speaker 3: Lick is the only thing that one can consume. You
Speaker 3: have to eat like a horse or like a have
Speaker 3: a bag of oats strapped to the front of your face.
Speaker 5: Because but you also drink through a straw.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 5: Would you also drink the bag of oats through a straw?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or yeah, I guess horses eat straw, which is
Speaker 1: unacceptable because.
Speaker 3: Straw is not manly. So yeah, this is this is
Speaker 3: the right wing news. We come here for I love,
Speaker 3: and we just have.
Speaker 1: To, like, you know, get down to the fine you know,
Speaker 1: dissect what what is manly like? Is eating straw unmanly?
Speaker 1: Or is it kind of tough? Because this is.
Speaker 3: Why we need a white man around. I would never
Speaker 3: know this.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, you guys. I do, of
Speaker 1: course tape Jesse Waters is the high priest of white manness.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do have to give credit where due.
Speaker 1: All right, McLean, we are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: going to tell the listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about, and we are still talking about that debate.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dig into the real story of what's happening
Speaker 1: in Springfield, Ohio. Of course we heard a version of
Speaker 1: events from former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: We'll find out both sides. Anything could happen.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, we're going to look into it. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got to take this man at his work and
Speaker 1: so we're gonna we're gonna dig in to the journalism
Speaker 1: around this story. And of course we have to look
Speaker 1: at Kamala Harris's earrings the night of the debate. They
Speaker 1: looked awfully familiar to those of us who still click
Speaker 1: on those banner ads that say one thing doctors don't
Speaker 1: want you to know. If you if you pay attention
Speaker 1: to those sidebar and banner ads, then you probably recognize
Speaker 1: those earrings, or maybe not because this is complete bullshit story.
Speaker 1: We might even get into Halloween costume ideas. Should we
Speaker 1: talk about Halloween costume ideas?
Speaker 3: It's the only news that matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all of that, plenty more. But first mccleet,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guest, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 5: Okay, this is my nerd side all right, this is
Speaker 5: a real left turn from our previous conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1: We don't allow that as left. Unmanly. We were like
Speaker 1: ups trucks up here. We only do right. We only
Speaker 1: take yeah.
Speaker 5: Only okay, okay, non sequitors. Cool right turns are left. Yes,
Speaker 5: I was looking for h A. I was looking for
Speaker 5: an audio program called the isotope Spectron.
Speaker 1: Isotope spectron that just sounds smart as hell.
Speaker 5: So I used to play this thing called a star guitar.
Speaker 5: I got these star sounds from my friend at NASA,
Speaker 5: and I would hybridize them with the sound of my
Speaker 5: guitar live on stage. But it required this program that
Speaker 5: they discontinued in twenty eleven, And every once in a while,
Speaker 5: like every six months, I look up has it come back?
Speaker 5: Because I can't actually find any program that will let
Speaker 5: me play a star guitar anymore. So that that was
Speaker 5: my yesterday.
Speaker 1: So it takes the noise from stars, because that is
Speaker 1: like an underrated thing that scientists do. They'll like point
Speaker 1: a microphone of sorts at space and be like, this
Speaker 1: is what Jupiter sounds like, and it just sounds It
Speaker 1: sounds like a fucking horror movie. Up there. It's just
Speaker 1: like Jupiter is being tortured. Somebody goes a lot of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's it's all three aliens. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: but yeah, there's it's sonic like curve soonifications of stars,
Speaker 5: and there's one in particular that has just like the
Speaker 5: name of the star is just a lot of let
Speaker 5: and numbers, like there's no actual name, but it's the
Speaker 5: pulse is like this incredible rhythm. And so I would
Speaker 5: and you could choose this program. Let you choose, like
Speaker 5: I only want the highs from the star and I'll
Speaker 5: take the mids and the lows from the guitar, and
Speaker 5: you could totally like work with it. And it's gone.
Speaker 5: It's gone, and every once in a while I look
Speaker 5: forward to come back because it was really fun to
Speaker 5: play the Star guitar.
Speaker 1: It's zotpe, yeah, spectrum, yeah, sweetwater. It's telling us it's
Speaker 1: out of stock.
Speaker 5: That's all of stock.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 5: But I never but yeah, I'm hanging on for a
Speaker 5: resurgence one day.
Speaker 1: That's cool. But you have like messed with it and
Speaker 1: like played music with the Sound of Stars.
Speaker 5: I used to tour with it. I used to play
Speaker 5: it on tour and now I can't anymore. So that's nice.
Speaker 3: Is music like that?
Speaker 1: Like, are there like the way that computers like just
Speaker 1: suddenly like any software from like twenty eleven, Like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to run on a modern No you.
Speaker 5: Counter you count run it?
Speaker 1: No, it would.
Speaker 3: It feels like it would almost be like the best
Speaker 3: bet is finding a working like twenty eleven computer.
Speaker 5: Right, do you think that I haven't tried that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I have one hundred person No, no.
Speaker 1: Ted that he thinks you didn't try that.
Speaker 5: I totally try. I totally like I have. I have
Speaker 5: tried it all. I've tried it all because it was
Speaker 5: so cool, it was so special. But anyway, that was
Speaker 5: my yesterday searching on the isotope spectron and then thinking,
Speaker 5: oh hey, I think I'll talk about this on TDZ too.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if anybody has the inside lane on an
Speaker 1: isodope's spectrum, you know, hit mclet up. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe we for some musicians. I know we have musicians
Speaker 1: in our audience, so yeah, I just that makes me
Speaker 1: wonder if all those people who like paid a bunch
Speaker 1: of money to be like I got the mixing board
Speaker 1: the thriller was made on, Like are they just they
Speaker 1: pay the money and they're like, oh, there's no way
Speaker 1: to use this or because that's not I think analog analogy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that like weird mid digital obsolescence. It's like
Speaker 3: what do you do with all your jazz drives?
Speaker 1: Like, yup?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 5: That is exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, you're like, right, anything old, you just plug
Speaker 3: it in as long as there's still electricity or maybe
Speaker 3: even not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can solder it to fix it, but you
Speaker 5: can't solder the icotate spectra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. I don't do much soldering myself, but
Speaker 1: I'm working on it, Jesse. I'm working on it, Jesse Waters.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: I think opening acts are underrated. Like if you go
Speaker 5: to a show and you're like, oh, I've got I'm
Speaker 5: going to dinner with my friends and I'm going to
Speaker 5: show up right when the headliner starts, and you're like
Speaker 5: and and I think people just think of it as
Speaker 5: like like kind of a fill you know, But if
Speaker 5: you look at opening acts, like even if you looked
Speaker 5: at a venues list of opening acts, you'd start to
Speaker 5: get a sense of a local music scene and it's
Speaker 5: a way like somebody put a lot of thought and
Speaker 5: heart into what you might like as an audience member,
Speaker 5: and it's like the it's like a way to get
Speaker 5: a pulse on a local arts and music scene. So
Speaker 5: I think opening acts are underrated and you should show
Speaker 5: up when the show actually starts and check out that
Speaker 5: band that's first, and you like might fall totally in
Speaker 5: love with some new music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like legendary stories in my family. My older
Speaker 1: sister went and saw a band and what the White
Speaker 1: Stripes opened for them, like in this like tiny like
Speaker 1: venue and she got to see the White Stripes before
Speaker 1: like they were a thing.
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: My dad went to I forget what the main band was,
Speaker 1: but he saw Billy Joel was the opening act, and
Speaker 1: he's like and he had that place rocking man, Like he.
Speaker 6: Still he loves to tell that story. But yeah, like
Speaker 6: there's it's it's worth it to like try it out.
Speaker 6: And yeah, that's not something that I had actually realized.
Speaker 6: I guess I dumbly assumed that like they always traveled together,
Speaker 6: like the opening act would like be on tour with them,
Speaker 6: but it's actually they'll just like be like, this is
Speaker 6: a cool LA band that we kind of fuck with.
Speaker 6: They'll open for us while we're in LA, and then
Speaker 6: you know, same with Saint Louis totally.
Speaker 5: And sometimes you get people like though there'll be a
Speaker 5: West Coast opening act or you'll go like sometimes it's paired,
Speaker 5: but most of the time it's either local or regional,
Speaker 5: and it's like it's always a good opportunity. So yeah,
Speaker 5: underrated opening back opening band.
Speaker 3: I know this is my most like these kids today
Speaker 3: type opinion. But it's like, if you guys like live
Speaker 3: performance so much, see the whole thing are you paying for?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 5: A you're paying eight for?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, it's definitely worth it. And it's
Speaker 1: like the the the energy is much more laid back
Speaker 1: during the opening and sometimes you see like something that's
Speaker 1: sort of embarrassing, but some people who aren't great but
Speaker 1: usually not though usually they're pretty good, so rare.
Speaker 3: That was the most realistic part of the movie Trap
Speaker 3: was when the opening band was playing to like twenty
Speaker 3: five people in a like you know, Taylor Swift style concert.
Speaker 1: Who oh so you saw Trap?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw Trap.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. While I think I have I
Speaker 3: have some notes. I just had some thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what mcley is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Matching socks? Nobody sees them. You don't have to match
Speaker 5: your socks. It's all good. Just pick any sock from
Speaker 5: the sock drawer and go on with your day. I like,
Speaker 5: I never match. I never matched my socks.
Speaker 1: And how different are we talk? And like different colors,
Speaker 1: just different different genres of socks. Like do you have
Speaker 1: one dress sock one sweat sock?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what you don't match is like or what
Speaker 5: you like. Even if the colors and styles don't match,
Speaker 5: the lengths have to match. So it'll annoy me if
Speaker 5: it's like one really short sock one longer sock, so
Speaker 5: I have to match the lengths. But that's it.
Speaker 3: There's still something, there's still something you can't you're not
Speaker 3: full chaos. Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Was thinking of like an ankle sock and like a
Speaker 1: big dress sock. That might be that might be tough.
Speaker 3: I did that the other day, and I gotta tell
Speaker 3: you it may be so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unmatched and genuinely because so many, such a high
Speaker 3: percentage of my socks are just Costco socks. So it
Speaker 3: was medium gray and light gray, and I was like,
Speaker 3: everyone can tell everybody knows, everyone knows about the secret
Speaker 3: shame happening under my shoe right now. So stupid. I
Speaker 3: understand I'm deeply stupid in your correct but wow, it
Speaker 3: really I could barely handle it the whole time, just
Speaker 3: white knuckling it through my day, like no one's looking
Speaker 3: at my ankles.
Speaker 1: Right, So is your sock drawer like, are at the
Speaker 1: laundry stage? Are you not even trying to match? Is
Speaker 1: it just like a salad of different individual socks.
Speaker 5: It's it's a it's a salad, it's a soupo pourri,
Speaker 5: it's a it's all of the above. Yeah no, no,
Speaker 5: there's nothing nothing, there's no effort goes into matching it.
Speaker 3: It sounds liberating. Yeah, this really will shave. This is
Speaker 3: a good like life hack. This will shave so much
Speaker 3: time to save your grind.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I have socks that, like half of my
Speaker 1: children's sock drawer is just like unmatched socks that I've
Speaker 1: like kind of given up on. Those are so little though,
Speaker 1: children's socks are so small, and they I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: they get sucked into. And I think I've said this
Speaker 1: before on the show, and Miles was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? You sound crazy, man, this idea that
Speaker 1: socks get like sucked into like an intake in the
Speaker 1: washing machine. But then I've had people like kind of
Speaker 1: back me up that that can happen. That like there's
Speaker 1: especially small children's socks will just get inhaled by laundry machines.
Speaker 5: There was this episode of the Family Guy that I saw,
Speaker 5: probably like I don't know, twenty years ago, where the
Speaker 5: back of the laundry machine is Narnia with like a
Speaker 5: half on half you know, human creature taking single socks
Speaker 5: into the abyss. And so anyway, with the children's socks
Speaker 5: a the really little ones, I completely agree, Like there's
Speaker 5: there's no way, like I buy socks like every other
Speaker 5: week because where did they all go? So I don't
Speaker 5: match them for myself, but I do match them for
Speaker 5: my child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're I'm the opposite because I'm a narcissistant.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they look like. My children are
Speaker 1: very sensitive about their socks. They're like what they don't
Speaker 1: First of all, they don't like to wear them if
Speaker 1: they're even like if they've been wearing them for like
Speaker 1: an hour and then come back in the house, they
Speaker 1: want them off immediately because they're like, they're dirty. Now,
Speaker 1: get them off of me. So very the sock regimen
Speaker 1: has to be disciplined in my household with these Wow,
Speaker 1: these little fuckers.
Speaker 5: Now, how often have I said that? Under my back?
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back,
Speaker 1: and we'll keep talking about the debate on Tuesday night?
Speaker 1: Was that already Tuesday? All right, we'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back. And as we talked about yesterday's trending episode,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the big moments from the debate
Speaker 1: seems to have been Donald Trump claiming that Haitian immigrants
Speaker 1: are eating dogs and cats in Springfield, which one viewer
Speaker 1: noticed synced up perfectly with the Peanuts music. Another person
Speaker 1: synced it with the Simpson's song about like the Brothel
Speaker 1: episode where they're singing about Springfield and then the songs
Speaker 1: like in Springfield, and then it cuts to him saying,
Speaker 1: they're eating our dogs, they're eating our cats in Springfield.
Speaker 1: It's the source of a lot of great content, but
Speaker 1: does it hold up under journalistic scrutiny? What do you
Speaker 1: guys think? What's your guests? He did see it on TV, god,
Speaker 1: which he didn't also like, I just wish instead of
Speaker 1: being like, we talked to the like this official because
Speaker 1: like obviously the people who are willing to believe him
Speaker 1: are not like the type of people who are going
Speaker 1: to believe a county official. If you had just been like,
Speaker 1: where'd you what? TV? What'd you see it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you mean Facebook? When you say TV, you
Speaker 1: mean Facebook, and you mean the guy who said my
Speaker 1: neighbor's daughter's friend. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 3: I will just say this and I think this is
Speaker 3: maybe my only or most enduring legacy of the dailies,
Speaker 3: like Guys from the Top was this is a perfect
Speaker 3: example of the Gish gallop, which is he says one
Speaker 3: insane lie and I'm just you know, loosely looking at
Speaker 3: the amount of research to come and it is like,
Speaker 3: you know, easily twenty x the number of words to
Speaker 3: unravel his lie. No more like maybe like fifty x.
Speaker 3: Like it's just it takes so much longer to depunk
Speaker 3: something insane and blatantly lie than just like him saying it.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is an early Andrew T like early years
Speaker 1: of The Daily Like Andrew explained that there is a
Speaker 1: technique in debate like the like official you know.
Speaker 3: Or I know, yeah, but yeah, yeah, just like a
Speaker 3: thing that like creationists. I heard a pioneered by about
Speaker 3: Dwayne Gish, just serial creationist liar. Yeah, and he just
Speaker 3: say so many lies that you can't you bunk them
Speaker 3: in an amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like even if your brain wasn't like overloaded just
Speaker 1: being like what you know, like it would still to
Speaker 1: you so long to just debunk the madness.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyways, we're about to do that. We're about to
Speaker 1: take the time to debunk it. Yeah, because it does
Speaker 1: tie into just the overall incorrect assumptions underlying the rights
Speaker 1: a fear of immigration. And I feel like also the
Speaker 1: mainstream media, like the mainstream media just like allows them
Speaker 1: to have these assumptions like that there are too many
Speaker 1: people immigrating to the United States and that that's a problem,
Speaker 1: like they give they start from that point, And studies
Speaker 1: have shown that immigrants actually boost the economy by sparking
Speaker 1: innovation and driving up wages. There is actually, according to
Speaker 1: a lot of like economic theorists, a big shortage of
Speaker 1: immigration in the United States, like the United States isn't high.
Speaker 1: Like on a per capital level, the United States does
Speaker 1: not have a lot of immigration. And when you look
Speaker 1: at decades and decades of research, immigration is the thing
Speaker 1: that fuels the US, like in all the ways that
Speaker 1: the right wing likes to brag about, you know, it
Speaker 1: makes the economy go. And actually they are far less
Speaker 1: likely to commit crime, and like all these things that
Speaker 1: they claim to care about are actually drastically helped by immigration.
Speaker 1: And there's yeah, what would be helped with more immigration.
Speaker 3: But anyway, as not to give Republicans strategies, but like
Speaker 3: using the sample size of my family, they are exactly
Speaker 3: primed to be Republicans except for the racism, right, Like literally,
Speaker 3: if you just were racist, you would have these fuckers
Speaker 3: as a voter.
Speaker 1: Fuck like Lee's system, we will vote for you.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 1: Sorry, can't do it. Not gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But one of this is based on logic or facts.
Speaker 5: It's all about like it's all about you know, appealing
Speaker 5: to be to be able to escapego to population for
Speaker 5: the problems that they're not going to solve. Right, So
Speaker 5: you know, we have so much evidence that like Europe,
Speaker 5: for example, is facing a precipitous population decline, and the
Speaker 5: only reason the United States is not going to go
Speaker 5: through that is because of immigration, and that has all
Speaker 5: kinds of other impacts, but we do need immigration. So
Speaker 5: you know, this is not about logic, It's not about
Speaker 5: anything that makes any kind of sense at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is worth explaining what the logic actually
Speaker 1: behind it would be I cared about that. So it
Speaker 1: is true that as many as twenty thousand Haitian immigrants
Speaker 1: have moved to Springfield, a town of around sixty thousand,
Speaker 1: and this was by design. The population of Springfield had
Speaker 1: trunk over the past several decades as businesses bailed on
Speaker 1: the industry in Springfield, which I believe was car manufacturing
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. In nineteen sixty, the population was
Speaker 1: eighty thousand. So the influx of Haitian immigrants restored the
Speaker 1: population to what it was over sixty years ago. And
Speaker 1: by the way, that quote that I was reading earlier,
Speaker 1: immigrants boost the economy by sparking innovation and driving up
Speaker 1: wages and all that stuff. If you're wondering what left
Speaker 1: wing rag pointed that out, that's from the George W.
Speaker 1: Bush Institute. So yeah, but in twenty fourteen, city officials
Speaker 1: enacted a plan to woo businesses back to Springfield. It worked,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have enough workers to fill all the
Speaker 1: new jobs, and so they, you know, Haitian immigrants started
Speaker 1: moving to Springfield. They were in the country legally, they
Speaker 1: moved to the town in order to fill the gaping
Speaker 1: labor shortage. There's about eight thousand new jobs were created
Speaker 1: by twenty twenty and they have only increased since then.
Speaker 1: But there just weren't enough workers to fill them. And
Speaker 1: then a bunch of Haitian immigrants moved to town and
Speaker 1: it has worked out incredibly well. That there was a
Speaker 1: car accident that happened, an isolated car accident where a
Speaker 1: Haitian immigrant with a foreign license not valid in Ohio
Speaker 1: grammed into a school bus, killing an eleven year old boy.
Speaker 1: And that is the thing that you know, sparked this
Speaker 1: resident like Springfield backlash, where residents basically use the event
Speaker 1: as a springboard for you know, racist vitriol and false
Speaker 1: allegations and you know, people like want One quote from
Speaker 1: the time at a chamber meeting was, how do you
Speaker 1: know we aren't getting criminals, rapists and of course like
Speaker 1: that that echoes Trump perfectly, you know, and the.
Speaker 3: Way trying to find it. But also the kid's parents
Speaker 3: have come out and said, like, stop using this as like, yeah,
Speaker 3: against Haitians, So I stop using this incident, this tragedy.
Speaker 1: Yes, the father of the son, I think, was at
Speaker 1: a press conference being like Donald Trump and JD. Pants
Speaker 1: should shut the fuck up and not say my son's
Speaker 1: name anymore. And then in his name, yeah, not in
Speaker 1: his name exactly. So yeah. In the wake of the accident,
Speaker 1: Haitians were accused by some residents without evidence of drug trafficking,
Speaker 1: retail theft, and disease. People are saying Haitians are occupying
Speaker 1: our land. And then the pet thing happened because of
Speaker 1: a single Facebook post citing a story about and this
Speaker 1: is not an exaggeration. This is a story about the
Speaker 1: user's neighbor's daughter's friend, who the person claimed found her
Speaker 1: cat hanging from a branch at a Haitian neighbor's home
Speaker 1: being carved up to be eaten. But nobody that is
Speaker 1: completely unsourced other than the user's neighbor's dodger's friend, which.
Speaker 3: Meant les boomer credulity here it's so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I know, it is so embarrassing, and it's he's like
Speaker 1: Trump is kind of like a cartoon liar, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just like a guy who Yeah, he seems like
Speaker 1: a liar. And some people don't seem to mind that,
Speaker 1: but I am just like wondering him falling for that
Speaker 1: makes him look inept, you know, yeah, like just yes, so.
Speaker 3: But in a way that's like that's this is this
Speaker 3: is exactly who his like base loves, Like that's who
Speaker 3: they are. They are falling for it. So what's it's all?
Speaker 3: I just will say, like, you know, as a as
Speaker 3: an Asian person who also you know, is from a
Speaker 3: community that's been accused of eating pets. Sure, Like the
Speaker 3: the other critical thinking thing that's so bizarre is like
Speaker 3: do you know how many straight dogs and cats are?
Speaker 3: They're like even accepting the unbelievably racist premise like why
Speaker 3: would you why would like how stupid do you think
Speaker 3: these people are that they would take a pet.
Speaker 1: They would go into somebody's yard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's just like like even giving them all
Speaker 3: of the grace possible. The last step of like, well
Speaker 3: why would you bother with a pet is like kind
Speaker 3: of such an insane straw to me, I'm like, why, yeah, yeah, no, stupid,
Speaker 3: It's complete. There's so many other ways to get dogs
Speaker 3: and cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh trust me. Yeah no, sorry, Look, okay, I
Speaker 1: am part of a now maligned group in that I'm irish,
Speaker 1: and so is RFK Junior, and so yes, I'm part
Speaker 1: of a group that is being accused of eating wellco
Speaker 1: dogs and cats. And I guess with better with better
Speaker 1: evidence than this this particular.
Speaker 3: That is why you people do. As far as I
Speaker 3: can tell.
Speaker 1: There is a picture of one of our most famous
Speaker 1: people with like standing over a dog, like pretending to
Speaker 1: be about to eat it, also standing over a bear
Speaker 1: pretending to be about to eat it. So kind of
Speaker 1: kind of interesting that they've chosen this, this rumor to
Speaker 1: fixate on that. I feel like they might be a
Speaker 1: little bit like the fact that it was jd Vance,
Speaker 1: you know, who started this, and he like there has
Speaker 1: to be some sort of sibling rivalry like insecurity with
Speaker 1: jd Vance and RFK Junior, right, because like when RFK
Speaker 1: Junior like brought up the possibility of joining the Trump campaign,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my god, that would have been
Speaker 1: such a better pick. And JD fans like, hey, so
Speaker 1: I don't know how it worked out that JD. Vance
Speaker 1: then was like I hear they're eating dogs and cats
Speaker 1: like some other guy that you might have heard of.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting. It's interesting. No, nobody really knows what's
Speaker 1: going on with JD. Vance at this point. I feel
Speaker 1: like he's got to be in a weird place right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, his his eyeliner guy's got to have some
Speaker 3: you know that that's where you really get the tea
Speaker 3: when you're like really putting on JD's face, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I really.
Speaker 1: Think, oh man, yeah, just the like untold documentary where
Speaker 1: about like JD Vance's eyeliner guy that we're gonna get
Speaker 1: is gonna be so good. But yeah, I mean one
Speaker 1: of the stories that's also rising up in Springfield is
Speaker 1: that they're taking the housing in the town. But of
Speaker 1: course this is just an issue of landlords raising prices
Speaker 1: because landlords suck, and because you know a bunch of
Speaker 1: people were coming to town who were willing to pay
Speaker 1: higher rent because they were, you know, filling jobs that
Speaker 1: needed to be filled. So yeah, according to the director
Speaker 1: of Springfield's Housing Authority, the new homeless in Springfield are
Speaker 1: people who can't afford to pay two thousand or three
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month in rent, which is not the
Speaker 1: version that you're being told about in right wing check groups,
Speaker 1: which I spent a lot of time in because I
Speaker 1: am on Decente. So but yeah, so just a story
Speaker 1: about the values of immigration, you know, like immigration working
Speaker 1: to help prop up and improve the economy of a
Speaker 1: fading town, and that is obviously not how the right
Speaker 1: has chosen to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was reading this newsletter by w camal Bell, who's
Speaker 5: you know, the amazing comedian, and he does these interviews
Speaker 5: with the ACLU and some folks from the ACLU Immigrant
Speaker 5: Rights Project or division we're talking about. There was a
Speaker 5: statistic that they threw out that really stuck in my mind.
Speaker 5: They were saying that the right spends around thirty million
Speaker 5: dollars a year in anti immigrant like to prop up
Speaker 5: and propagate anti immigrant narratives, and like the pro immigrant narratives,
Speaker 5: you get about seven hundred thousand dollars a year being
Speaker 5: spent like intentionally in that way. And so there's just
Speaker 5: like a massive, massive, massive campaign going on to exploit
Speaker 5: this issue. And I feel like if like with the
Speaker 5: the situation of the school bus and the cats and dogs.
Speaker 5: It's like any little any little story that can be
Speaker 5: manipulated will kind of flow into these this like structure,
Speaker 5: these structures that have been created to propagate these narratives.
Speaker 5: And so we just have a lot of work to
Speaker 5: do on the side of you know, telling pro immigrant stories,
Speaker 5: which are actually just human stories of people being people.
Speaker 5: But there's a deeper problem going on if the if
Speaker 5: these little stories can like take hold in a town,
Speaker 5: then it wasn't okay even before the stories came up, right, Like,
Speaker 5: it's like we have so we have so much work
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do feel like it's also a failure of
Speaker 1: the mainstream media and they really just take the talking
Speaker 1: point that like immigration is a problem.
Speaker 5: A problem absolutely, as.
Speaker 1: Like the starting point of the conversation around immigrants, yes,
Speaker 1: rather than and I'd say, like also a problem with
Speaker 1: the mainstream Democratic Party that like this feels like a
Speaker 1: thing that you could take and be like, actually, we're
Speaker 1: not even going to engage you on this idea of
Speaker 1: immigration being a problem. We're gonna say it's actually one
Speaker 1: of our greatest strengths, and we're going to say that
Speaker 1: like here's how to like just account for it and
Speaker 1: like expect it and make sure the infrastructure is in place.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there so that there is enough housing when
Speaker 1: there's an influx of people coming to fill jobs that
Speaker 1: need to be filled.
Speaker 3: But every every like complaint from right wing people about
Speaker 3: like like this stuff always boils down to too much
Speaker 3: conservative shit is happening, Like if there was rent control
Speaker 3: right right right, It's God, it's such an unbelievable bummer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason that Springfield was such a hotbed for like
Speaker 1: the way they were able to like pitch themselves to
Speaker 1: these companies was that they said they touted the low
Speaker 1: cost of living combined with its location on two interstate
Speaker 1: highways between Columbus and Dayton. I'm just because Andrew, you're
Speaker 1: from bro Midwest, the Midwest, that Midwest, we think that
Speaker 1: is how So I grew up in Dayton for like
Speaker 1: five years, and we were always talking about the crime
Speaker 1: rate like being really high because of like because we're
Speaker 1: on these like two major interstate highways. Like people in
Speaker 1: the Midwest talk about highways the way like a wildlife
Speaker 1: expert talks about a river. You know, they're just like
Speaker 1: on the banks of the Grand three four Freeway, an
Speaker 1: oasis burst to life of shopping, balls and drug given.
Speaker 3: It's like what our version, the Midwest version of like
Speaker 3: a port is is the highway exit? Yeah, right, like
Speaker 3: all the benefits and the you know, alleged like detriments
Speaker 3: are you know, oh, just because too much stuff's coming
Speaker 3: in and out, godless, godless immigrants are teaching whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, guess it was actually always that it was coming
Speaker 1: down from Detroit and you're like, yeah, we're like the
Speaker 1: murder capital per capita in the US. I think that
Speaker 1: was like true for a year, and people who lived
Speaker 1: in Dayton were really proud of that fact. But they
Speaker 1: would also always be like, yeah, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: we're right on those two highways coming down from Detroit.
Speaker 3: So I just need one like high school level statistics
Speaker 3: class to be taught, like get the fuck out of here,
Speaker 3: Like oh yeah, might as a statistically significant sure, dudes,
Speaker 3: that's right, Like the hell out of here.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back. And so, as
Speaker 1: we talked about on yesterday's trending, there seems to be
Speaker 1: a lot of people on you know, everybody on the
Speaker 1: left is like complete disaster for Trump. It was any
Speaker 1: anything from like the Trump equivalent of Biden's debate performance
Speaker 1: the first time around two I've seen it called Trump's
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. I guess maybe because it was the
Speaker 1: day before, but it's, yeah, like the the idea that
Speaker 1: it was disastrous, like is sometimes being openly acknowledged by
Speaker 1: both sides disastrous for Trump, and sometimes being implicitly acknowledged
Speaker 1: by the right who are claiming that the event was rigged.
Speaker 1: And of course there's the complaint that the moderators that
Speaker 1: he's out there playing three on one like they're they're
Speaker 1: trying to kill him by like fact checking the things
Speaker 1: he's saying. And then there's also the conspiracy theory that
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's jewelry was telling her the right answers the
Speaker 1: whole time. Oh my god, I feel like would be
Speaker 1: so confusing, Like would be such a would be such
Speaker 1: a difficult thing to do, to have somebody in your
Speaker 1: ear telling you what to say as you're.
Speaker 3: It's a difficult skill to have the the whatever the
Speaker 3: fuck it is called that your ear wiged.
Speaker 1: Or Yeah lives that famous play that's about that it's
Speaker 1: like somebody's name is the spy movies. Definitely superducer. Victors
Speaker 1: think spy movies make it look easy, but there was
Speaker 1: I'll find it by the end of the story. But anyways,
Speaker 1: people think that no way someone would be that articulate
Speaker 1: good at debating. And it must have been the result
Speaker 1: of earphones embedded in her ear rings. Again, like just
Speaker 1: they're like girl ear rings. That's weird. What she must
Speaker 1: be cheating, which provided her with stealth coaching during the debate,
Speaker 1: because the earrings she was wearing clearly resembled the Nova
Speaker 1: h one audio earrings, which were sold on Kickstarter last
Speaker 1: year and sold as supposedly the first and only wireless
Speaker 1: earphones embedded in a pair of pearl ear rings. If
Speaker 1: you look at the news story with the headline I
Speaker 1: use these new smart earrings to listen to music. They
Speaker 1: totally surprised me, and you will be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are the same fake news stories that you see
Speaker 1: on the side of like when you're at any sort
Speaker 1: of news site that's like a local news site that
Speaker 1: has just been like we give up on, you know,
Speaker 1: any sort of quality control. We're just we will take
Speaker 1: any ad that you want to give us. Dentists don't
Speaker 1: want you to know this one secret. You'll never have
Speaker 1: to brush your teeth again.
Speaker 5: My five year old definitely wants to hear that secret.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, God, which celebrity was hideous?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, you'll never, guess you'll never. When you see
Speaker 1: what she looks like today, your jaw will drop and
Speaker 1: then like a picture of Sarah Jessica Parker or like something,
Speaker 1: I know what they look like? Uh McLean? Why do
Speaker 1: children hate brushing their teeth so much? So much?
Speaker 5: It's like it's like they feel tortured by it. It's like, not,
Speaker 5: don't you like the feeling of having a clean mouth?
Speaker 5: I guess not.
Speaker 1: They hate it. They fucking hate that feeling. My five
Speaker 1: or my six year old this morning was like demanding
Speaker 1: to be paid for brushing his teeth. I was like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk. He's like, I mean, I don't you asked
Speaker 1: me every day to do this? Like he was, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and be like it's called bitcoin mining. You want to
Speaker 1: earn your keep around here, stop going to school and
Speaker 1: get this. It's easy.
Speaker 3: It's easy.
Speaker 1: Just gamify. You make it fun for the little fuckers.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the theory of the case here is that this
Speaker 1: the vice president of the United States, somebody who presumably
Speaker 1: has a campaign that has hundreds of millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: has access to like NASA and Pentagon Technology, went went
Speaker 1: on Kickstarter to buy a pair of Nova each one
Speaker 1: audio earrings because I guess they were both pearl earrings.
Speaker 1: Is the thing that Laura Lumer was pointing out, Laura Laura, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Total Nazi showed a picture of Kamala Harris's ear ring
Speaker 1: next to the I used these new smart earrings like
Speaker 1: spam ad So I don't know what do we think, guys,
Speaker 1: do we take away any credit we had been giving
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris for her performance because she cheats.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing. Here's the thing about the performance of
Speaker 5: the debate, Like there was all the things she said,
Speaker 5: and then there were the.
Speaker 1: Looks on her face, yeah.
Speaker 5: Right, like like she there was this one point especially
Speaker 5: where she gave this like oh poor Donald kind of
Speaker 5: look where like and he hates that, like it's it's
Speaker 5: they are these you know, it's almost a different form
Speaker 5: of a zinger h when it's like oh.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was yeah, and it can't what like
Speaker 3: that's why would you think you would need coaching for that?
Speaker 3: And this like there donald face tech wearable I mean,
Speaker 3: I will say also this is likely a version of
Speaker 3: the like eating pets thing, which is like how stupid
Speaker 3: do you think Kamala Harris is like why And she'd
Speaker 3: like do this in this way even if you you know,
Speaker 3: accept your racist ass premise, like like you can't. She
Speaker 3: could easily have a invisible your piece like or whatever,
Speaker 3: like any number of better ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Why get a kickstarter piece of wearable
Speaker 1: tech that, by the way, some people looked into it
Speaker 1: and nobody has ever gotten what like the people who
Speaker 1: invested in the kickstarter never got the kickstarter hearings.
Speaker 3: Bottom all India.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why she cornered the market, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Also like this thing that like somebody's Facebook message that
Speaker 5: of their friends, neighbor's daughter can start an entire series
Speaker 5: of like multiple like yeah, can get the former president
Speaker 5: to say something, can start like all these other news
Speaker 5: stories and this person like post sing something on Facebook
Speaker 5: or whatever platform truth social they were using, suddenly has
Speaker 5: us talking about it like we're talking about it. She
Speaker 5: did it, She got she got it out there in
Speaker 5: this way. And so it's also like how these little,
Speaker 5: you know, pieces of information can be considered some kind
Speaker 5: of a some kind of a you know, thing to investigate.
Speaker 3: It's it's because it's our pathetic media allow like some
Speaker 3: people saying to be a fact. So then it's like
Speaker 3: this is real, Like this pipeline has been so abused of,
Speaker 3: like a Twitter nazi says a thing that gets repeated
Speaker 3: by Breitbart, which then is like the pipeline to Fox News,
Speaker 3: which is then news. All of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 3: Fox News is like money laundering for racist lies. It's
Speaker 3: just like, because.
Speaker 5: I'm going to use that quote money laundering for racist lies.
Speaker 1: That was a good because accounts of how they like
Speaker 1: look for stories, and it really is that they just
Speaker 1: like go through blogs, racist blogs that they're probably already
Speaker 1: posting on. We saw like the Tucker Carlson's like main
Speaker 1: writer for the entire rise of his career was like
Speaker 1: outed as just being this like horrible racist like shit
Speaker 1: poster on like a law school forum.
Speaker 3: Yeah obviously, yeah, like where else would you get them?
Speaker 3: If I could steal three minutes of podcast time to
Speaker 3: awkwardly pivot into a question for mcleat loosely based off
Speaker 3: of well only because we learned during the break that
Speaker 3: she is up in San Francisco, and since tech wearables
Speaker 3: is in this I have this theory that the recent
Speaker 3: spate of tech wearable failures is down to income inequality
Speaker 3: on the streets of San Francisco, making it such that
Speaker 3: there's no more like teens to tell you you look
Speaker 3: like a nerd? Is that is there? Eddy? Is there
Speaker 3: any truth to that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, Okay, first, like I'm just going to say, like,
Speaker 5: what do you mean by tech wearbles, Like you're like
Speaker 5: the classes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, because those are all crashing
Speaker 3: and burning. And I just had been beating this pet
Speaker 3: theory to death that I was like, I I was like,
Speaker 3: basically that like loitering could have saved the tech industry,
Speaker 3: but the tech bros are too stupid to realize it.
Speaker 5: I think that there are always teenagers ready to tell
Speaker 5: you that you look like a fucking tweet, that you
Speaker 5: look like like that has not changed, But I will
Speaker 5: say that, you know, San Francisco has the lowest population
Speaker 5: of kids under eighteen, or kids the people under eighteen
Speaker 5: than any major metropolitan city in the United States, and
Speaker 5: it's even increased since the pandemic in back. Next week
Speaker 5: they're going to announce this whole slate of like which
Speaker 5: schools are getting closed and merged because there are so
Speaker 5: many less students there were. So you are in fact
Speaker 5: correct that despite the fact that there are still teenagers
Speaker 5: ready to tell you that you look like a d weep,
Speaker 5: there are less of that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So but.
Speaker 5: Can I link Can I link that to the fall
Speaker 5: of tech wearables? I don't know if I can make that,
Speaker 5: but maybe if you make a blog post about it, it.
Speaker 1: Will become news.
Speaker 3: I'm here to make that irresponsible, politically motivated claim. But
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not. I'm just I was just like, God,
Speaker 3: this has just been a theorians in my brain forever.
Speaker 1: My neighbor's kid actually goes to Berkeley and his roommate's
Speaker 1: sister actually said that this is the case. So I
Speaker 1: think we're pretty hell yeah, yeah, I think back on
Speaker 1: this one. It's also I think a big trend with
Speaker 1: tech companies has been like that they create their own
Speaker 1: campus where, you know, their own like little universes where
Speaker 1: it's like you never.
Speaker 3: Have to leave.
Speaker 1: We have chefs, we have all these things, and like
Speaker 1: I think that that might be the equivalent of like
Speaker 1: when a famous person creates like a a home with
Speaker 1: a name that like they never leave like Neverland or
Speaker 1: Graceland or you know, like a and like that's always
Speaker 1: a bad sign, like they always become insulated from reality
Speaker 1: and start like going in weird directions. And you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like the tech world has that broadly in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and then like yeah, at a smaller scale,
Speaker 1: like on Google's campus where like it's true, yeah, everybody epic.
Speaker 5: Okay, I did perform. I performed at Google once. This
Speaker 5: is a long time ago, and I will say that,
Speaker 5: you know, it was like the like my biggest well,
Speaker 5: actually I have two big memories of that. The first
Speaker 5: one was the food of like it is our sushi hour.
Speaker 5: May I offer you some sushi?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Why yes, you may offer They desire a cookie hour
Speaker 5: and all that. So there was that the food was
Speaker 5: like whoa. And the other thing was that the sound
Speaker 5: system totally failed.
Speaker 1: And I was the technology.
Speaker 5: Yes, the technology failed, and I was so there for it.
Speaker 5: I was like I'm living this irony. I'm soaking it up.
Speaker 5: And then we had a bunch of acoustic instruments. So
Speaker 5: we went from the stage to the grass and we
Speaker 5: made a circle around us and did the rest of
Speaker 5: the performance acoustic, and it was ten times better than
Speaker 5: it would have if been if the but anyway, but
Speaker 5: the other thing was like it it they all of
Speaker 5: this stuff is only meant to keep those people working,
Speaker 5: you know, so they don't have to leave. So it
Speaker 5: is exactly that. That's the same as the you know,
Speaker 5: the buses that that. So you're from your doorstep to
Speaker 5: your doorstep, not interacting with any community around you. You
Speaker 5: are like in the Google world from the minute that
Speaker 5: you your house. Yeh yeah, so you're totally right because I're.
Speaker 1: Inside a giant roving Google like pep rally.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right. I'll keep working on my thesis.
Speaker 3: But it's bally motivated and highly biased, so I don't
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, but it seems true, right, it feels correct
Speaker 1: the fact that it's like a historic like a children
Speaker 1: of men for school age children, like where there's just
Speaker 1: like not no, there's no school age children.
Speaker 5: It's it's weird, it's really weird.
Speaker 3: That's that is so wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting. Did they like bust them off
Speaker 1: once they started making fun of their shitty Google glasses?
Speaker 1: Where they like, we got to get these kids out
Speaker 1: of here. Amazing? Well, mclet, what a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you,
Speaker 1: hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: You can find me follow me at macleat music dot com.
Speaker 5: That's also my all my handles are the same. It's
Speaker 5: m e k lit music dot com.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Yeah, And is there a work Amedia that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna be super selfish here, yes a moment,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna call out the latest episode that we
Speaker 5: just released of the podcast Movement with My Fleet, because
Speaker 5: it features this woman who is a legend and who
Speaker 5: everybody should know. Her name is June Millington. She was
Speaker 5: the co creator and lead guitarist of the band Fanny,
Speaker 5: which was the first all women band to get a
Speaker 5: major label record deal, the first all women band to
Speaker 5: be on the Billboard Top forty. She herself is Filipina
Speaker 5: American and is like, uh, she's an absolute legend of
Speaker 5: American music and she's spent decades supporting women songwriters performers,
Speaker 5: founded a music school with Angela Davis like she's a genius,
Speaker 5: and it's just been mind boggling to me how people
Speaker 5: not enough people know about her. So the latest episode
Speaker 5: of our podcast features Jude Millington, so.
Speaker 1: We'll allow it. We will allow that selfish plug because
Speaker 1: it sounds awesome. Andrew, where can people find you? And
Speaker 1: is there a work a media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Man, Andrew t my podcasts, Joss Racist, We have. We've
Speaker 3: been doing premium podcasts on suboptimal pods, dot com and not.
Speaker 3: This is the self plug is I've been doing this
Speaker 3: podcast like a bonus podcast with enemy of my show,
Speaker 3: friend of this show presumably Jessica gal where she and
Speaker 3: I are? She She basically was like, Poker's all chance,
Speaker 3: So we're doing a poker versus scratch off tickets, who
Speaker 3: can win more money challenge on what Gallum blur the
Speaker 3: spoiler alert, I'm curb stopping her. So you are good
Speaker 3: at I'm playing ten cent poker. I'm not good at poker.
Speaker 3: I'm better than the people who play ten cents, better
Speaker 3: than chance at poker. Huh, yes, I'm better than chance
Speaker 3: and scratchers are minus.
Speaker 1: Ev I'm actually better. I'm better than chance at scratchers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a system.
Speaker 1: By the way, for anybody who thinks like we're just
Speaker 1: making that up, you can go and read for days
Speaker 1: about various lotto and scratch ticket buying systems and you
Speaker 1: know the math behind it.
Speaker 3: There are exploits, but those loopholes tend to get closed.
Speaker 3: I will say, do they win? Like these? There you go?
Speaker 3: I mean the to me every time, every time I go,
Speaker 3: because I have weird, like weirdly stupid cousins who are literal,
Speaker 3: like you know, engineers, a literal rocket scientist in my family,
Speaker 3: who when they're in Vegas are like, I got a system,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, the counterpoint to your system is, look
Speaker 3: how nice the bellagio is. Like, if it was possible
Speaker 3: to take money out of this ecosystem by just some
Speaker 3: bozo's method, why exist?
Speaker 5: Why are the rooms here so cheap? Why are the
Speaker 5: flights here so cheap?
Speaker 1: Exactly, so much luxury, so little being officially paid for
Speaker 1: it in the normal way that one would pay for it.
Speaker 3: You don't. You don't have a system, I feel is.
Speaker 1: Kind of a system, right that it's just like annoying
Speaker 1: to do. Some people don't do that.
Speaker 3: I I so, actually this isn't the thing, but I
Speaker 3: have been shooting. I can find it. There's a couple
Speaker 3: car I'm not going to find it. Sorry, there's a
Speaker 3: couple of card counters on YouTube because actually tech wearables
Speaker 3: have gotten small enough that they're able to surreptitiously record
Speaker 3: their blackjack hands and do it over. No, they're not cheating.
Speaker 3: They are They're just like, yeah, it is, and it's
Speaker 3: card counting. I will just say, is trivially easy. The
Speaker 3: hard part is not going to hot and keeping keeping
Speaker 3: the bit up while while you're doing it. I guess
Speaker 3: I won't elaborate. You can YouTube it. The piece of
Speaker 3: media I've been enjoying is there's an anime on Netflix
Speaker 3: called Delicious in Dungeon that is about slaying monsters in
Speaker 3: a dungeon and then cooking and eating them. And there's
Speaker 3: nothing has ever been more up my alley than that.
Speaker 5: Wow, I feel that I know you better now.
Speaker 3: It goes from a sword and sorcery thing into a
Speaker 3: cooking show seamlessly, and it's so insane and I love it.
Speaker 5: That's nice, Okay to just to say a media that
Speaker 5: was not my shameless plug. I was watching I've been
Speaker 5: watching the show Extraordinary on Hulu and it is the funniest,
Speaker 5: funniest show that I've seen in a long long time.
Speaker 5: And I had a super hard August and it was
Speaker 5: like the like the light of my day, just like
Speaker 5: keeping me laughing. It's, you know, Irish. I find Irish
Speaker 5: people very funny, oh really great sense of humor. And
Speaker 5: it's like starring and written by this Irish whose name
Speaker 5: I can't remember, but it's called Extraordinary and it's on
Speaker 5: Hulu and it's like, I really highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: There you go. You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore Obrian. The work of media I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: is uh the Simpsons thing. I'll link off to it
Speaker 1: of the episode about the House of Ill Repute opening
Speaker 1: in Springfield and then edited together with Donald Trump. I
Speaker 1: love the clip. I also love just the person who
Speaker 1: tweeted it at fear Gass Kelly. Ferg Gass fear Gass
Speaker 1: s e A r g h A. S Kelly tweeted
Speaker 1: with the thing, I better go super viral for this.
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: He called his shot, but like, I just like that
Speaker 1: as a sentiment to be like, I better fucking blow
Speaker 1: up for this.
Speaker 3: This is awesome work, I will say. Actually, the Peanuts
Speaker 3: one is The Peanuts one was by comedian Noah Garfinkel,
Speaker 3: who is you know, Jack AND's never met you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no I know. Yeah, yeah, really good. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I actually didn't realize that was him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Rather in a different vibe than this better go viral.
Speaker 3: This one I'm sure has gone more viral than normal
Speaker 3: for Noah, but he does this kind of shit all
Speaker 3: the time. So if you like this vibe, yeh like
Speaker 3: follow him? Yes?
Speaker 1: Absolutely. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Super producer Justin Connor, is there a song that you
Speaker 1: think people should go check out?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm actually going back to my hometown in Chicago
Speaker 7: tomorrow for a little trip, and I usually throw this
Speaker 7: song on to one of the playlists for the flight
Speaker 7: because it's really relaxing and chill. And it also works
Speaker 7: really well with mclete being here because this is by
Speaker 7: an Ethiopian jazz musician. I think let you mentioned it
Speaker 7: was Ethiopian New Year's Today the day before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy New Year everybody.
Speaker 7: So this is this is a song called teta which
Speaker 7: pardon the pronunciation, I believe that how okay, which translates
Speaker 7: to nostalgic.
Speaker 1: And I just really love this track.
Speaker 7: I think I heard it in The Bear at some point,
Speaker 7: but it's very, very relaxing, very technically good jazz music,
Speaker 7: but just a really nice Sunday evening kind of vibe.
Speaker 7: So this is Mula and you can find this song
Speaker 7: in the notes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if The Bear should be nominated for
Speaker 1: Best Comedy stuff, but I do think it should be
Speaker 1: nominated for like best Playlist, because they have.
Speaker 5: Not yeah, not best comedy. This not best comedy this season.
Speaker 1: Oh this is intense, but but some good some good
Speaker 1: tracks in there.
Speaker 5: What a great show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nonetheless, all right, well we will link off to
Speaker 1: that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production
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