WEBVTT - Our 2025 Second Base Tier List (with Jolly Olive)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome awaken. Jake Tierless season rolls on. We

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<v Speaker 1>are with Jolly Olive, BBD is here and we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to second base honking some boobs. Um that'll be deleted.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably won't, though, subscribe thanks to all the teenage

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<v Speaker 1>boys watching this. Second base always an interesting position. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of defensive guys that that's what they do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The top of the list. I think we might have

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<v Speaker 1>our our first true s tier of the year. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we might be doing this one a little differently.

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<v Speaker 1>We might be going a little bottoms up because it

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<v Speaker 1>gets it gets funky in the top top middle area.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of funky in the top middle area, second base,

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<v Speaker 1>Jolly Olive, who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Second base was my position m.

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<v Speaker 1>In league You, Jack Doyle and BBD.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to throw it. Jake, So glad you asked me

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<v Speaker 2>how I'm doing. I'm doing great? Uh not actually though

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<v Speaker 2>I had I had a really weird launch and I

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<v Speaker 2>just totally threw off my dad. It's just an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>mess of a Chipotle bowl. And it's really making me

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the mess that is the second

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<v Speaker 2>base position in MLB right now, because it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>guy at the top, and then two through twenty could

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<v Speaker 2>be anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's there's a couple guys that can actually compete

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<v Speaker 1>for the top, and there's like a lot of categories.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the young guys that we've heard promise and hope

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<v Speaker 1>for that. We'll we'll find out a lot this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But second base, I would also love to see the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution over the past decade or so, because remember when

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<v Speaker 1>shifts were happening and it's like we've signed Mike mustak

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<v Speaker 1>Is to play second base and everyone's like timeout, that's

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<v Speaker 1>illegal in the you can't do that. Can you do that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like second base is briefly looking over this list,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting back to second base a little bit. Make

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<v Speaker 1>make some plays, have a contact bat. There's a chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of the middle that's that jolly. Why don't you tee

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<v Speaker 1>up the top of the tier list?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that, the top of the tier list, and

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<v Speaker 2>you listening at home, you're smart, you're handsome, you know

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<v Speaker 2>who this is? Or pretty? It's Katel Marte. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a guy that probably could have had a

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<v Speaker 2>shot to win NLMVP had he not missed time on

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<v Speaker 2>the injured list last year. He did miss twenty five games,

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<v Speaker 2>but in one hundred and thirty six games could tell

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<v Speaker 2>Marte had a one to fifty five OPS plus nine

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<v Speaker 2>two ops, thirty six home runs as your switch hitting

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<v Speaker 2>second basement for the Arizona Diamondbacks, easily the best position

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<v Speaker 2>player on their team and a team stacked full of

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<v Speaker 2>great position players. Last year, Christian Walker's on that team,

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<v Speaker 2>Corbyn Carrol Katel, Marte led the way. I really did

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<v Speaker 2>think that we saw the peak of Marte in that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen season where he hit thirty homers. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of having a nice year that year. Who knows why,

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<v Speaker 2>juicy balls. He signed that extension heck and base had

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a tough next year and then has

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<v Speaker 2>fully remounted, and it made that contract look maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best in all of baseball right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen MILLI year for Caateel Marte, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>more than fair. And he just he brings all dimensions

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<v Speaker 2>to the play a man. He hits for power, hits

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<v Speaker 2>for contact, has a spectacular glove out there, has the

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<v Speaker 2>play discipline three seventy two on base last year. He

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<v Speaker 2>is easily the most well runted second baseman we have

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<v Speaker 2>here entering his age thirty one season. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get a few more really elite seasons

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<v Speaker 2>out of Caatel Marte. And there's no one on his

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<v Speaker 2>level right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it third in the MVP last year to Shohey,

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<v Speaker 1>who went just a reminder fifty four to fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Snore put him at second base. I don't know, Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers left field. He can throw Flinder Francisco lindur Id

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<v Speaker 1>have to google who that is. But uh, he finished second.

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<v Speaker 1>But he played one hundred and fifty two games and

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<v Speaker 1>then basically the same war that Marte went nuts. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason the Dinebacks had like the best offense last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty wild, and yeah, I mean the Dimbacks moved him

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<v Speaker 1>around for years, shortstop, second center. That now it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just hey, you play second base, you hit

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and we like that. One of the best

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<v Speaker 1>contracts in baseball. I think I wish there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a video you could watch on.

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<v Speaker 2>That, something to write down on my sticky note.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe God, sixteen mil, sixteen mil, fourteen mil team option.

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<v Speaker 1>The next year it goes down and it's a team option,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's really good. Bet that's how the d Backs

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<v Speaker 1>do business.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Was also amazing in the playoffs. Yes, half matters, half

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, matters matters. Mind on that out than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that that nine thirty two ops. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that Josel Tuve has moved to left field and got

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<v Speaker 1>a little older, there's not a lot of guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the list that can dream on that, never mind have

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<v Speaker 1>done it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's above average as well if you're into the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing, really fun baseball savant page. It's all red.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it's red, nasty nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for us, that's easy. It's a one man party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Marty party.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's a Marty party. I'm rerunning the two let's

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<v Speaker 2>marte parte.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do something a little different. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom. Oh gold uh and chew through some

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<v Speaker 1>of the fat. Uh. I labeled to go tease because

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys had facial hair that most of them

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<v Speaker 1>were goatee's. There was one beard that kind of broke

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<v Speaker 1>the mold.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a salt patch.

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan Gorman. You were saying mean things about.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying mean things. But he had a tough

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<v Speaker 2>fear I had. I had pretty high expectations for Nolan

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<v Speaker 2>Gorman to kind of become like the best position player

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<v Speaker 2>on the Cardinals last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got him on the bounce back list.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty three, eight oh five ops two War and

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was building in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Also kind of just like, I don't know, has the

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<v Speaker 2>build of a corner infielder, not really middle infielder.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, Wow, you're gonna build him like that, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like a strong dude. Last year wasn't good thought

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<v Speaker 2>shame tons of strikeouts, not a lot of on base

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<v Speaker 2>point three. War got demoted in the middle of the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the first round pick. Like, there's decent expectations for

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<v Speaker 2>him and Jordan Walker and some other guys over at

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals unit. Von Herrera.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's been discussed a lot, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they've held and let go I know, very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>John Moseleak last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Dylan Carlson just a major league contract with the

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<v Speaker 1>Orioles this year major league. Yes, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the guys that get Yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 2>traded Bater and kept Carls we're getting sidetracked. Gorman's bottom

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<v Speaker 2>tier for me? How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who were the other tyro Estrada?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you love him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him, the Young Prince. He's in Colorado. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on it. A fantasy guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, maybe, just like he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a dog twenty twenty out of nowhere. He could be

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest twenty twenty season of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a dog. Brenton Doyle did that last year.

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<v Speaker 1>May I hope the Young Prince is a nice trade

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<v Speaker 1>deadline ad for a team. Uh? Oh, I'd like the

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<v Speaker 1>who else was on our Oh? Brendan Rodgers threw this

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But he does deserve to be there, right, He deserves

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<v Speaker 2>to be there because if you get cut from the Rockies,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like, well, you have to go in

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom tier. But I will say, I'm envisioning him

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<v Speaker 2>in an Astro's uniform and I'm liking it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lefty specialist to start. Probably, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A delicate bottom tier. It's not bad. No, you take

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<v Speaker 2>any these guys, honestly, No.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I for the most part, they are like

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<v Speaker 3>worth the gamble.

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<v Speaker 2>Those of these guys were negative war either, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>all a replacement level.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Josh Rojas also at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a white Sox uniform on, so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he kind of has to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, I think it's fair. He uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some moments for the Mariners and then that

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<v Speaker 1>ended kind of quickly that only twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Ross was kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a while where you could butter knife his

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<v Speaker 1>stats that he was basically a league average hitter, which

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, okay, and he's got the glove. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I can do. I can do that. He

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<v Speaker 1>can play every position and hit league average. Things fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit there. I think that's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the goate list for now. And yeah, per usual.

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<v Speaker 3>Only not what I have on Brendan Rodgers is his

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<v Speaker 3>defensive profile is so weird. It's wonderar of like the

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<v Speaker 3>best DRS number ever and the rest is like straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Up bad glove. Right, he win one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had like I think like legitimately he had

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty two drs. It's an insane number.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing with this bottom tier all of them

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of good at something like these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>If these guys are your nine hitter, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm perfectly fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>If these guys are your two hitter, which Rojas, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyro and Gorman.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyro's middle of the lineup in the Rockies, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>which is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But watch out. Tyro's probably a fantasy guy. Havn't dove

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<v Speaker 1>in fantasy. I accidentally ripped didn't rip them. But earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week I was in an article that had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fans. It ended with fantasy notes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>The bat protecting Chris Bryant this year on the Rockies

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<v Speaker 2>is Tyros Roda. I'm ready bring it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Bryant get hit with like his first pitch in

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<v Speaker 1>batting practice this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, his bat speeds up. Okay, it's been going steadily up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, buy some stock see Winger.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the toddler tier because there are some babies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some babies, and I think is the baby of

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<v Speaker 1>all babies on this list, Jackson Holiday's holidays in toddler two,

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<v Speaker 1>which hopefully we're talking about him flying up this list.

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<v Speaker 2>This should be the biggest riser.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy smokes, he was bad. Yeah, I remember Foolish Bailey

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a pretty do you know him online videos?

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<v Speaker 2>Fool Baseball his first name is Foolish. Didn't respond to

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<v Speaker 2>my comment on this most recent video.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got bof Oh it's real, uh five sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five ops? Oh no, Yeah, and there was he he

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<v Speaker 1>had some stats. I was like, there's guys struggle. This

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<v Speaker 1>was significant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, struggle is struggle is struggle at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>Like and he was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>He was twenty, which is why I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>putting too much in the money.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going on thirteen. Yeah, his cheeks were rosy, they

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<v Speaker 1>still are.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that he can't grow beard?

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<v Speaker 1>He saw I saw the Vidict camp. He looked more

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<v Speaker 1>like a holiday boy. He'd beefed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just with all these guys that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of don't spend enough time at Triple A. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of always take it with a grain of salt, because like,

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<v Speaker 2>you need that seasoning ian. If you are the number

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<v Speaker 2>one prospect in baseball, it is so rare to just

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<v Speaker 2>come up and be great because if you don't. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>my thing, philosophical jolly for a second. If you don't

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<v Speaker 2>face adversity in the minor leagues and then you face

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<v Speaker 2>adversity at the major leagues, then you probably don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to deal with it because you haven't faced adversity

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<v Speaker 2>as a baseball player. So I think he needed he

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<v Speaker 2>needed that, he needed like the little like wake up call,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he's gonna come back and be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, thanks. I like that he starts off

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<v Speaker 1>the toddler tier. Who joins him? I got Juan Brito here,

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<v Speaker 1>Juan Brido, let me know, I think it's Brito. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy love living Guardians. I am high on Juan Brito.

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<v Speaker 2>He was acquired in the Nolan Jones trade. I made

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<v Speaker 2>a video last year about did Cleveland miss so when

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<v Speaker 2>they traded away all their players? They didn't because Cleveland's

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<v Speaker 2>a machine. And one of the guys they got back

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<v Speaker 2>was this kid from the Colorado Rockies who can play

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<v Speaker 2>all infield positions pretty well. He's a contact bad he's

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<v Speaker 2>got some pop uh, and they're pretty excited about him.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of have like a little pipeline of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of infielders, but he's I think the most promising

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<v Speaker 2>one and I think he's gonna turn some medicines here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, borderline, top one hundred prospect, triple A. Sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>playing Uh yeah, I mean, let's find out. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Could in your book?

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<v Speaker 1>Could he join the Ahmed Rosario, Jimenez, Lin d'Or was

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<v Speaker 1>there Ramirez? Does he count there? There's been quite a

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<v Speaker 1>lineage kipness of guys. Well, now we're going back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find out. Yeah, I think Cleveland was pretty happy

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<v Speaker 1>to get off Andre Semenez's money.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too, And I think that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a bad acquisition by the Blue Jays who need to

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<v Speaker 2>improve their infield defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And he might be on this list later on coming

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<v Speaker 1>up getting the third base off the field. No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>come on. Everyone thumbs down sports just like we like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we that's where we drive our testosterone towards sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone who else their kids? Who are the babies? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>this Marlin?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is this Marlin? Auto Lopez? Is that who?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm He has some good numbers, I know that's what

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<v Speaker 1>half these guys. It's like, he has some good numbers

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half or last year. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>dream on auto Lopez twenty swipes, eighty seven ops plus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be twenty sex. It's not exactly a toddler.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a baby baby. That's a toddler.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not toddler. So I'm a toddler.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tierras, Yes, you are common down below. You got

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<v Speaker 1>talked about. I'm talking baseball today. High song, high song.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like he might start in Triple A. He's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>He's good, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like they signed him and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>super util right, and they're like, no, starting a second

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<v Speaker 2>baseman for the best team in baseball, right, that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Trade away, Gavin Lucks don't need to set off an

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<v Speaker 1>alarm for me. But he's twenty five, he's coming over

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<v Speaker 1>from overseas. Wasn't a top prospect. If he got signed

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<v Speaker 1>by the White Sox, we'd probably be mean to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, right, he would get the josh h.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just honest. It's just honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately it is, and White Sox fans did want him,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way. Nice numbers in the KBO steady eight

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<v Speaker 2>to forty oh ps last two years, hit three thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five in one hundred and thirty seven games in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Not an easy thing to do. I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people will probably raise an eyebrow at KBO versus NPB,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do think the skill level is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different between those leagues. But stolen based potential is

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<v Speaker 2>crazy with this guy. He is stolen twenty plus bases

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<v Speaker 2>every single season of his professional career, thirty plus and

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<v Speaker 2>half of those seasons. And you just know that the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers are gonna throw him in the lab and get

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute best out of him at age twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I guess he does fit in toddler tier,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think his ceiling, like Holiday is pretty high. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have to split this up, Okay, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about splitting this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, sorry, who would you want up? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>And hear me out, I think Holiday, Kim and Brito

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a tier above the other guy's down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Kim and Brito so out like Lee brooks Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's in this tier, right yeah, Brooks Lee twins.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what they do at second base, Because there

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<v Speaker 1>was some Race Lewis rumors for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he fits in exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooksley was a top pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, here's the top prospect for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach get Off, who I know, you're post type, not

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<v Speaker 1>into your post hate.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hate any Buddy Jake, except for people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the video.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you this ballmarker was double sided.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the coin you keep dropping over there? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Galloffs strikeout numbers were tough last year. Good S trekouts

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<v Speaker 2>are in dude total one eight. They're not one of

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<v Speaker 2>the rougher savant pages. You'll see first percentile, strike out right,

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<v Speaker 2>second percentile with rate, second percentile, expected batting average, like

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<v Speaker 2>everything under the hood. It's not great for mister Galloff,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was so good his rookie year last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was just like an intense sophomore slump. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, But what I do know is that the

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<v Speaker 2>Athletics aren't really banking on them this year. They're banking

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<v Speaker 2>on other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Sacramento hot ball Flies.

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<v Speaker 2>Summer games are gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Be cat how many? How many these second basements could

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<v Speaker 1>sneak second basements could sneak into twenty twenty? Get Off,

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<v Speaker 1>we already said Tyrone song got Jackson Holiday Tyro Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe that's not as big as I thought. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>any other babies you like? How old is Nickenzalas Nick

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<v Speaker 1>the Stick? Nick the Stick? Pirates fans like him. I

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<v Speaker 1>like him, and I like that Pirates fans like them.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought in another former first round pick, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of first round talent. High first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seventh overall in the twenty twenty draft, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see those guys come up. Now, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're heston kursedads.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's kind of dumb. Why Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>I like Nicknzales? He played baseball at New Mexico, New

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico State, New Mexico State, And when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that draft, it's all like the baseball

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<v Speaker 1>powerhouses Torkleson, Arizona State, Arkansas, Minnesota A and M Vanderbilt, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>State, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you can hit kind of close to him

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<v Speaker 1>from and I think he hit like three ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>in college. Why do you know that, Jake? But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you forget your mom's name back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know your mom's middle name, mine's Elizabeth. Actually, never mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know Karen, which that's kind of out.

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<v Speaker 2>Karen's out ship. Karen and Chad are out. No new

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<v Speaker 2>babies are getting named those names.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Brooks league gel Off, we can put nickenzals there.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he might come.

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<v Speaker 2>Up and Auto maybe, I mean autos there, Auto's.

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<v Speaker 1>There, Otto, Otto's gotta be somewhere. Nick. Yeah, his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>don't I like him scream off the page, but I

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<v Speaker 1>currently don't have a better landing spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's kind of another example of like if

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<v Speaker 2>Nickensalz was your nine hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Holidays there, Yeah, I might be hitting in the meat

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pirates lineup. Let's do dirty jerseys, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think they might get shuffled around a lot, because the

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<v Speaker 1>original idea around dirty jerseys was these are the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>stalwart catchers, catchers, second baseman that if they have if

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<v Speaker 1>they have a good game, they're covered in dirt. They

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<v Speaker 1>made a diving play, they scored on a two out

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<v Speaker 1>single base running speed and defense, kind of the og

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<v Speaker 1>second base profile. And I think, and again this is

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<v Speaker 1>where things might get thrown off. Originally I started with

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Semenez. He's yeah, a Platinum Glove contender every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the stick has been an eighty ops plus guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which that's it's starting to push the limits. But he

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<v Speaker 1>can still do that and get like six war, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if we're gonna see twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two again, but I mean his twenty twenty two season

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<v Speaker 2>was incredible, Like it makes sense why he got that money.

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<v Speaker 2>One forty one to ops plus seven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>war sixth an MVP building like that is the player

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<v Speaker 2>that this guy was two years ago. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's as bad as it was last year. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think Andrechminis can still be like a league average bat, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but what we do know about him is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>the best defensive second basement in the game right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the best defensive infielder in the game right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could make that argument pretty compelling too.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, with him, Like, if you get a league

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<v Speaker 2>average bat, great because that means you're probably getting like

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<v Speaker 2>a four or five war season. But he doesn't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to do that, Yeah, because he's already worth four.

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<v Speaker 2>War when he was twenty percent worse than league average.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd like to put him higher because you know what

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<v Speaker 2>talented he is, but the bat's got to come through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think twenty twenty three would probably

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<v Speaker 1>be the aim for him. It was a ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>ops plus and a five point three.

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<v Speaker 2>War one hundredth percentile outs above average.

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<v Speaker 1>Him with Boba Shitt is going to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people were too hard on

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<v Speaker 2>that move because I think that's an intriguing move for

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked what they did. Eh Menas you play play

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<v Speaker 1>world class defense, some tunder hit the ball very far.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we say about the Brewers every year? It's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna prevent runs and they're just gonna win games

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Okay, when teams copy that formula, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be into it. What I mean, well, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A little different anyways, get better Ernie Clement health wise,

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<v Speaker 1>We knew what you meant healthwise. That Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the first inspiration. I think Nico Horner. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you might fight for him to be higher. I might

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<v Speaker 1>fight for both these guys to be higher because I

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<v Speaker 1>think is as second baseman go Bryce terrage is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be like moving the tier up higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think I might be into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'd be into that too, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, these guys are good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Horner is a lesser glove by a smidge

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<v Speaker 2>than Jimenez, but a much better bat.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been abovely gaveraged four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, not by a lot. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, we know who he is at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we know exactly the kind of player is. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we're gonna see much change in that age

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth season, still incredibly valuable. Like when the Cubs

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about trading him, I was like, why in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, right would you trade Nicol Horner right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Like in this one year win now window. Also another

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<v Speaker 2>former first round pick second baseman always on the board, crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Two years left, so they can trade him at the

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<v Speaker 3>deadline and get good value. If this year doesn't go

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<v Speaker 3>to plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Just keep them because you can just keep them.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it goes wrong and then there's a time

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<v Speaker 3>later where he won't, you won't have lost value.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So yeah, I'm down to move this tier up

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<v Speaker 2>above wildcards just because like there is no wildcard about

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. You know, they're a great defensive second basemen,

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<v Speaker 2>rack up war and if their league average offensively. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I mean these guys, when you do the

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<v Speaker 1>side by side on Baseball Reference, I mean it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it is back and forth, it's close. They are they

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<v Speaker 1>are of a similar ilk and it's kind of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. I mean, shouldn't Bryce Terrang be with

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. I know it's one year, but the defense

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<v Speaker 1>and speed is wild.

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's got the speed tool better than anybody here.

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Fifty swipes only six o'clock stealing last year, Like that's

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of the new echelon of like, oh, you're like

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a real base right, like kind of really run run.

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's getting their twenty now, which is still good, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's become more commonplace.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of twenties you look at in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>But you see a number like fifty, you're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's special. And Terrang for the first half of last

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 2>year was a well above league average hitter if I

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<v Speaker 2>remember correctly, he was let's see here, he was above

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 2>lya g average seven thirty one ops three forty one

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 2>on base like that plays just had a tough second

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 2>outs is. Overall seasons, sets weren't great, but I think

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the Brewers love him mm and you know Pat Murphy

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>loves Bryce. First guy out in the field to stretch

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 2>every day, Joey Ortiz second, everyone else there.

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they come out as a unit.

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>They all link.

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they actually take down the dugout rocker kick

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>it down Bryce Track thirty three. I only see one

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>guy that I think deserves to be joined with these fellows,

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and they might not. It would be bryceon Stott Bryson.

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Stott's interesting had a weird one last year four war

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Player in twenty twenty three, when he was a league

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 2>average bat right mind you, Andris Meantez for war Player

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>when he was twenty percent below league average. There's levels,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 2>but Bryce and Stott might and this might be crazy

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 2>by the end of the season this year, Bryce and

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Stott maybe the Philly shortstop because I could see Trey moving.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I know there's already some questions there, and Stott's easily

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>their best infielder, but by comparison fifty third percent it's

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<v Speaker 2>above average. Last year zero was his value league average.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>So I don't no, I don't know what they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do with him. This is kind of a big

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<v Speaker 2>year for him. Age twenty seven, Philly's window feels like

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it's tightening up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what it is, I feel like

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>looking at those guys that were mentioned joining him with Jimenez, Horner, Terrang,

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I know what I'm getting from those guys. Scott.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew what I was getting, and last

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>year kind of threw it offcard that I know he's

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>been thrown off that. Yeah, I don't think he deserves

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to be with those guys currently, so maybe he's a

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>wildcard for now. I do want to jump back up. Okay,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we chewed off a lot of the bottom there. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they always say today, they always say good good

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>sports shows. Hit him with the Brendan Rodgers, Rojas Tyro first,

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you hook him back with our second categories

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>labeled five tool light, which is always something I who

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>was my first five tool light? Eddie Escobar, Eddie Escabar.

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he was prime. Eddie was special, he was

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>someone signed.

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>What could did he do? Does he still want to play?

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if someone offered him a minor league deal,

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>he'd say yes.

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure if they pay he plays.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>LT Smith Vibes guy Altimate.

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Loved him as a couple of seasons. Uh, five tool light.

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I like this because there's a couple, a couple of

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>really good ballplayers. Yeah, I'll throw at Ozzie Albi's first,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>little monster. He's dealt with some injuries. But when Ozzie's

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>out there in healthy, he goes to to do last

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>season ninety nine games, the offensive numbers weren't there. The

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>season before that, eight forty nine ops out of a

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>second baseman, a guy whose career OPS is around eight hundred.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I I believe in Ozzie. I think you could the

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>two years he's or the three years he played full

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>since twenty nineteen, our big boy second base seasons. Yeah,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>top of the lineup, thirty homers, like where the two

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>injury seasons and two of the last three years the

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>numbers aren't there. But he was also hurt, So I don't.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I still very much believe in twenty eight year old

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Ozzie Alby's. Yeah.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 2>The way I'm trying to view this tier is like

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>these guys are one all five tool light, like the

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 2>tier says, but two, they all have a tool that

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of goes toe to toe with Katel, like with

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Kazzi as like his power is toe to toe with

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Katel thirty three homers. You don't see that from Second

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Basement A lot with someone like I don't know your guy,

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Jazz Chisholm speed is very clearly better than Katel, and

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 2>he also brings everything else to the play contacted or

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's got pop. So like, there's a lot

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to like in someone like Jazz Chislm Junior. Who Yeah,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like maybe we have not seen the best of Jazz yet.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>We've been kind of wait for that like big big

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Boys season, and we've seen a lot of good slash

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>great seasons from him. I don't know, how do you.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Feel, Jazz or Razzi Jess. I think Jazz Sneaky had

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a breakout season last year. He had twenty four home runs,

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>forty solen bases. It was his best year while on

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees. He played third base for the first time

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in his life.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Do we know that he's the Second Basement.

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they've named it, Okay, they talked about it.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's a world where if somehow a guy

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>we might if the races, you know what, we are

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 3>trading Brandon Low right now, I think they'd be fine

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 3>with moving Jazz to third.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>In that instance, he is the Yankee second baseman for now.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>No funny business.

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll take it.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>If there's funny business, we'll see forty swipes. Yeah, man,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's real. That's real. Came over, had

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a little more juice with the I won't sell anyone on.

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>That, I think, no, but I think that's real. Like

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>it's the I know the Morns made it in twenty three,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>but this was the first time it was like October

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Jazz like part of something bigger kind of thing, Like

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>you're in a franchise that has a direction that I

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>think has to affect a player lineup and the way

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>they apply themselves and all that stuff. The lineup is

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>another important point to make. So yeah, I mean, if

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we don't see a better year from Jazz this year,

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>then I'm starting to question who he's going to be

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>as a big leaguer. Because we're a age twenty seven season.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>It's time to go and become the best version of yourself.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Also had some injury troubles in the past, and I

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>if anyone's trying to not Yankee. This not a phrase

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Baseball Reference projections, which is a computer. I think it's

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the last three years, and they wait them whatever. Jazz

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Chisholm projected for twenty three homers thirty one seals seven

0:29:58.160 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>seven seventy three ops.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So I like that.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Could be more, could be less.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>He might get more than thirty one.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I think so too, but those are conservative and Jazz

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>might have that in the tank.

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>We like Jazz.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>A name that ends up on this we like just

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a name that ends up on this list a bit

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly as of now, and it's only fair is Alex Bregman.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It's funky, it's full right. It doesn't feel right, it

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>feels weird that this is not Josel to they this

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>is Alex Bregman.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's not a second base. He just won the

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>gold Glove at third.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll do a Bregman discussion. I am still very much

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>of the opinion that the Red Sox are going to

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>put their foot down and Bregman's going to play third.

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Devs is gonna dah or play first, because that is

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that's the best version of that team. Still, the Bregman's

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>story Middle Endfield has my eye was fully raised. I'm intrigued,

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious. I don't love it, but I do love

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Alex Brackman. We know exactly who he is. I think

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>last year, I think he's better than that. Offensively, he

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>was still four war players, still hit twenty six home runs.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>The ops took a dip, but I think that with

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Fenway's left.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Field, a guy who the stadium matters, I mean.

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>And also like a breath of fresh air after nine

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>years in one place, that's got to do something for

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you too. I like to fit a lot. I like

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the signing when it happened and made a ton of

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>sense in my brain. The Red Sox he needed to

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>make an impact move like that to get serious again.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>And all the stuff under the hood that you should

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>really care about with guys that are getting a little

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>bit older, like plate discipline. He was ninety fourth percentile

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 2>on strikeout rate ninety eighth and whiff rate eighty second

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and chase rate like that stuff is all still great.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>It'll translate. I'm excited for Alex Brackman.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he felt like a missing piece and they got him. Yeah.

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>The only thing you know, I get it Bregman at

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>third Devers DH it does must Taka Yoshida was okay

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>last year in his second year, and I think there's

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>more in there. I don't know if he goes to

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>if Devers goes to DH and Bregman goes to third,

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you're then starting Hamilton or Roming Gonzales at second, which

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't like it's not terrible, not terrible, but it's also

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I think Yoshida.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Yoshida feels like an odd man out to me, and

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>he could still get traded.

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I know, more can happen, but like I I

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>think the Red Sox, I guess their best case lineup

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>if Pregnant can play second well, which we're assuming.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was ninety first percentile at third at

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>third base.

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>If Devers is okay at third, which he's had times

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of okay, I think I'd like Yoshida at DH again,

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>at least against righties.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna find out. We're gonna see it in April,

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>for sure, we'll see that's a promise, but I think

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>we might see some mid season adjustments. But I'm happy

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>to have him.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Here, and I think he deserves to be on that

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>second tier and could for one year, could he outplay

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Caatel Marte.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's happened, absolutely, And that's the other thing about

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>this year. Any one of these guys could outplay Catel

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Marte this year in my opinion, I don't know. If

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, then they might not belong up here.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>They belong, But katel Tell good, does anyone else deserve

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to be in five tool light?

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think just out of respect Marcus Semyon, I'm open

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>to that. I think I know last year wasn't awesome.

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>In fact, last year was tough, like we can be

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>World Series hangover, pretty frank about it. He went from

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one to now seven or five and a

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>half four, seven and a half four four war still

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>an exceptional player, still on All Stars, still twenty three

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>home runs, only missed three games, which is what Marcus does.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>He gets on the field every.

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Seven and a half war. The year before is like,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what Kittel did.

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Last year. Kattell was a seven and a half four

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>player if he played the full season. So if one

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>year moved from that, I'm not just gonna forget that.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Gotta get that slug up though, too.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>MVP threes slug the four hundred is kind of scary

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>that whole Texas team had last year.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 3>They were just all hungover.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>They're all getting the benefit of the doubt for me

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>in on that Marcus Smion does not give me the ick.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>He was nice. I like them.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he should be extra and extra in movies.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>He cracked wise, but he was also all business.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you say he cracked wise. How old are you

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>say that I do the crossroad on the train. That's

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're mad at the Mets in forty years.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>That's not a now for wile man.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I really want to petition the name of this two

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 3>to be respect with the two, because the other three

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>guys besides Alby's all where or have worn number two.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Where Albi's does.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>But in the case of all them, we are like

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>respecting they should wear number two, you know.

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Feels like it. If you asked me what number Alby's wore,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I would say number two.

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 3>I believe he's number one to wearing two.

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's like basically the we'll see mess around with it, jolly.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>This next one is probably gonna get split up or

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because at first we were thinking of

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Rays. I put raise up is up there,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if these are guys that can

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>raise up I think I think a couple of the

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>names have raised connections and could have a special season. Dude,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>where does hell t is?

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Not?

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen? Never mind, I just saw his picture. I forgot

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he's just left over the star fielder. Now that threw

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>me off for a second. Well, hold on, hold the phone.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>There's one guy that you're higher on than I, higher

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>on than I thought. Who's a five tool like guy? Maybe?

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I think definitely, I.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Was surprised you were pushing for this because I this

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>team has ruined.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Me, mark my words, Jake's story, Ellie. When we are

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>back here next year for twenty twenty six tier lists,

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the man who will be in our highest tier is

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Matt McLean. I think Matt McLean is stupid good, and

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we got robbed of what he's truly capable

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of last year when he got that freak injury in

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>spring training, playing a little too hard like we all

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>do sometimes.

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Four war in ninety games in this rookie year, I

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>know that's really damn good, dude.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You said it all the time. He was better than

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Ellie was when everyone was talking about Ellie. He's still

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>finished fifth and rocking of the year, voning he only

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 2>paid half the season. I really like Matt McClain. Also

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the vibe I got in the Reds clubhouse that dude

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 2>is like a leader there. They already looked at him

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>that way, and that that does something for me. I'm

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie to you. I am very, very excited

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>for Matt McLain this year. Another former first round pick.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Uh, we can contest it, but he

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 2>is in.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:30.280
<v Speaker 1>My second If I can dream on youth, he's.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's worse than correct wise, I dream on youth.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's not even what I want to say at all.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a crime in some states.

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>If I wanted to dream on simeon getting respect. Yeah,

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>what Matt McClain did when he played baseball was very good,

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>high level good. It feels feels weird putting him with

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>some of these cats. Man Alex Bragman just got forty

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>mil a year.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Here's my thing.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>If Matt McLean is league average this year, you're stunned

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>coming off a big injury.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I have an important question. Take away all the emotions,

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>take away the swag, whatever. Okay, would you rather have

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the achy second basement jesss Chisholm or Matt McLean.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>For this year? For this year? Only jazz. That's a

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>real injury. Yeah, that's a real injury.

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>A year off.

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>You're taking a chance on McLean. I'm liking my chances,

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's fine.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I like McLean a lot. I feel like if he'd

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 3>come back even for like the last month and was

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 3>pretty good, just to show it and line of real

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 3>good numbers, I would, yeah, whatever, throw them up there.

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Everything I've seen is good.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Ninetieth percentile sprint speed eighty percent, it's above it. Yes, okay,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 2>so five tool light is what I'll tell you.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned he finished fifth and Rookie of the year. Well, hey,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Who are the guys ahead of him?

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's find out.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Corbyn Carroll pretty good? How is his follow up?

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Here? You get a sophomore slump? Sure? Also finished that

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you were a pretty solid numbruk but had hurt shoulder.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Took a step back, shoulder. James Altman, Oh yeah, wow,

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>remember James Almond, Nolan Jones hurt? What I say now, hurt?

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.479
<v Speaker 2>All these guys got hurt. That's kind of wild.

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Six play Spencer Steer M. I don't think he should

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.240
<v Speaker 1>be with them yet. I want him to be, Okay,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I want him to be.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 2>And we know you paid off BBD, so you're getting

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>his vote.

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Gotta show me bullshit, Gotta show.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Me he's gonna twenty twenty three, you're gonna be You're

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna look foolish.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 1>When you don't play baseball for a little while. It's

0:39:55.520 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>tough to play baseball. Can I say something fatist if

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll let me say something. Jazz looks a little weird

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>in that group before now, not gonna lie because you're racist, Okay,

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean three of the four.

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Closely.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I understand what you're saying.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you.

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>For full seasons? What Simeon has done well, Bregman has.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Done, Jazz has never had a three worse.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I could bring jazz with Matt McLean.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I think they kind of have to go have qualms

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 3>But jolly, what you're not getting as he was just

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 3>nice to us.

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean that's kind of also why.

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I no, I'm I'm actually I'm okay with them. Yeah,

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a fair.

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 2>It's exactly what you said, like just track record.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Ready for both of them to raise up on that

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>raise up line as we've now leaked into it. I

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>love Brandon.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Lao forty Ho Brandon Lau.

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Watch out for him at a minor league ballpark this year.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 1>That happens to have a short porch cheez, Like when

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Lao is healthy, Uh, that man hits.

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Are you on his page or no, I'm not. Career

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 2>career ops plus guest on Brandon Lao in seven years

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and six hundred games.

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Good job on the nose.

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>On the nose, No, yep, eight twelve career ops plus

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>don't say that.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yes, though, wild he's really fucking good. Like this

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>is what I was Yeah, hunting for lefty bats this offseason. Yeah,

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, wait, so he makes ten mil this year,

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>team mill for eleven and a half next year. Uh,

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the man has an injury history. He's not like five tools.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>The speed's never been in the bag, defense has never

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>been flashy. It's just one hundred and nine games in

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, twenty one home runs, one hundred and

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>seven games last year, twenty one home runs.

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 2>And like the Rays need that's so bad because they

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>just didn't hit last year, like he is their best hitteror.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>The one year he played over one hundred and ten

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>games he had thirty nine Homers like.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, I think in maybe three years,

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Brandon low isn't a second basement anymore. But he is

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>right now, and like, you know, he's going to be defensive.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You can have a weird vagabond. He's gonna have a

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>weird veg.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be like Peterson type path

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>or like he's like not an outfielder anymore, and maybe

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>he only plays against righties.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a fun fact I'm not sure if I

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>can share, but I'm gonna share it. Lawrence the band, Yeah, Clyde,

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they were here once, they were here. Oh yeah,

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>his now girlfriend maybe fiance dated Brandon Loud. What do

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you think that?

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>What you think?

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>What do I think?

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 2>What did she think?

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, And it was kind of funny when I

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>found that out. I was kind of rooting for Brandon

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Laud to come to the Yankees, which you know, I

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't know where the that's just how your brain work.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's anyways.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I've already went Homer paced the last two years when

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 3>he's played.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 2>You really guessed one twenty five on the nose.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's really good. That I didn't think that number

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was right, but I thought it was in the area that, Yeah,

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Low gives you a buck forty five, you're going

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to have one of the best, maybe the best offensive

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>season from a second base. And he's a ray. That

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was kind of part of it.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 2>So these are locked. I feel really good about where

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>her tear list is atky and I looked at the

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>remaining roster for wild cards and wherever else, and I

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>got nauseous.

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Mmmm. Let me see. I just want to see who

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>jumps out as good so and raise up Jazz Low

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>McClain kind of like that deserve each other kind of

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>about that. When I look at the available players left

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 1>on the board, who do I think is the best player? Hm?

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'll just go through the names quick so you

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>can play this game at home while we while we

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 1>think on it. I am seeing Labor Torres, I'm seeing

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.959
<v Speaker 1>Michael Massey, I'm seeing Rin Hifo, Jeff McNeil, Jake Cronenworth,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Fitzgerald, and Dylan Moore from your Seattle Mariners and

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Stodter right, and would you just say I had Stott

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>on the board and wild card I don't know why,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm here he's on dirty Jersey.

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So we kind of So we got eight guys. Very interesting.

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Bryce and Scott does get a dirty

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.479
<v Speaker 1>jersey lot, but that's for another time.

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Vibes wise, I feel like he does fit lives.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Do we want to say, oh, we.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Said he's not good enough and I kind of agree.

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Do we want to say who we think the best

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 2>of the eight is on three?

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So if you got and this is for next season,

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>this is for yeah, this season. If you got one

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>second basement and you could.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Pick from any of these eight, who would they or nine?

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>The numbers? I think I have mine. I think I

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>have mine, and I kind of hate it.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm between two that I don't like.

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, I kind of hate it.

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I have my leader.

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're ready in three?

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Two one?

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Gerald? That was my other one? Were you between

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:39.800
<v Speaker 2>him and Fitzgerald or no?

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Fitzgerald?

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I just that dude, raked.

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's ninety six games, Like Matt McLean,

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, I get fooled, all right, assume me.

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a believer.

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I like that you believe.

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>It feels like it should be your team's mod.

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Three months is a long time him Jake so annoying.

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Motto.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Good, you know what I'm gonna say. Good at least

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 2>not a former first round pick. Dam some stuff under

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>the hood isn't great. On Tyler Fitzgerald's chase rate, strikeout rate,

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 2>even outs above average, he didn't grade out very well

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>one hundredth percentile sprint.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Speed okay, with some pop off king So.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of all over the place, and he.

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Did he did those defensive metrics. I think a lot

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of that is short stip.

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last year. So like I like him ticking up there.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Hey, but he's a wild card. He's a wild card.

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>He's a wildcard. That's fine, Like I would probably there's

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>no offensive Giants fans or Tyler Fitzgerald. Like I'm looking

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at Stott and Fitzgerald, I would I would take stop.

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for next.

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Season, I would, And that could be super wrong. Like

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope Tyler Fitzgerald's a stud. I hope him and

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt McClain top of the list, But I don't know.

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Now, you can't put him up.

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 1>It don't past the sniff test. And I just hope

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>it's horribly wrong. And we're talking about how good the

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Giants infield this is. But Louis Garcia.

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>You did mention Louis Garcia.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>He raised up, he did stepped up. He's crazy, Like, okay,

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's you know where this God damn it

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to Louis Garcia's.

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 3>He's Louis Garcia junior.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Reference last year as a twenty four year old,

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>two point two war season, eighteen homers, twenty two stolen bases,

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:42.479
<v Speaker 1>a one to fifteen oh ps plus like that, he's

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 1>played a decent amount of ball at this point because

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the Nationals are out of their mind.

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Called him up as a twenty year old, called him up.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>At age twenty that if you take out the early

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>early years, you know, the past three years from ages

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty two to twenty four, this is you know, Tyler

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Fitzgerald had not been a major leaguer yet Louis Garcia

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>was getting pro at bats. He's not an on bass guy.

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Thirty four and thirty four homers and stolen basis.

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that that at age twenty five, with a better

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Nationals team around him, like could we not look down

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and see twenty two twenty five, twenty twenty two thirty

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and then what are we talking about

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>as a switch hitting second basement or left handed hitting basics.

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 2>He is very fun to watch. I will say he

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get his walks and he's kind of shown that

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>that's that's not his It's a dangerous game. It's a

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>dangerous game to play, but when it when it goes right, uh,

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 2>it makes for a very fun ballplayer to watch. So

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I like Louis Garcia Junior only going to be twenty

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>five years old, Like we could still see better versions

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of him, especially with what you said in a much

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 2>better national sign up than we had, you know, even

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. But yeah, he's he's a wildcard.

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I've got an up cell that I think people

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>could use against it if they wanted to platoon. But

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he's on the good side of the platoon atleast. Garcia

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>against righty's last year to eighty eight three twenty six

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:17.439
<v Speaker 1>A seven ninety six ops against lefties a six forty

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>one ops.

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Who do he platoon with? I should know this.

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he played in that Star Problem like Star Platoo,

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>which again maybe he gets a little better verse lefties

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>after seeing them, or maybe he doesn't. But dude, you

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 1>give me an eight hundred ops hitter against right handed

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>pitching at second base?

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Out raise ups?

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think his platoon Maate was like il Tomorrow

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Vargus or something. So get me a lefty masher.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll bleep that out. Let's get the best trade for Tyro.

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Trade for Brendan Rodgers would have been a good fit.

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Eighty nine percent tile oaa like that wildcord.

0:49:54.040 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>No, it's really weird. Yeah, he hit left handed star pictures.

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>He must have gotten mauled by relievers.

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Is that? Is that that baseball reference like left left

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 3>starter split. I believe that's games a left handed picture started.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 3>But that includes the believers that they got to face.

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Interest you guys, really it's crazy that that's the way

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>they split it.

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 3>But I remember there's a talking Yanks. Where do you

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 3>think he could raise up?

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Do I think he could raise up? Oh? Who would

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>you rather have it?

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he deserves to be with Matt McLean. You

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>can say it, who would you rather have? Nico Horner

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>or LuSE Carcio Jr. I don't think I can put

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>them above Shut my ass, sorry.

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Boss, I mean yeah, with that You can ask that

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>question with any of these guys, like who would you

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 2>rather have the known platinum Glove caliber second baseman or

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the wild card?

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>They are a real deportation line.

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Can you say that?

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like that was a phrase

0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 1>felt wrong.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:50:59.919
<v Speaker 2>I think like dividing line.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, line, isn't there a line of demarkation of Okay,

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that's what I meant.

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 2>There you go the line of tea board.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Just trying to get into the YouTube for a different

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You got to say the right words. I think that

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>line of Dirty Jersey of Jimenez Horner Terang is very

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>interest because it's like, yeah, I'd rather have Matt McLean.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I'd rather have Brandon low in the

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>chance to hit forty homers. But yeah for Fitzgerald Stott,

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I I'll take the guys I can rely upon.

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 2>You know who I really want to be in Dirty Jersey.

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I want Dylan Moore up.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.879
<v Speaker 1>There is Dylan Moore good.

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 2>I think Dylan Wore is good and I just never

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>think about him.

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>The Mariners need to, like power numbers are crazy.

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 2>They need to let him play a position. Look at

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the position cal him on his Baseball Reference. It's nauseating.

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 2>He plays nine positions every year. It's hard to be

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a good ballplayer and you never know where you're gonna play.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Won the gold Glove last year. Last year, that's impressive.

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Stuff Man hit ten are still thirty two bases. He's

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>had three twenty stolen base seasons in the past four years.

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>He's been abovely gathered wild wildcard. A wildcard got the

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>stick though, the complete wild.

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 2>One ten ops plus the last three years.

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Hey, everything I've learned to believe about Seattle

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>played Dylan Moore at second base for a year. There's

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a wild card though, like he just is.

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess all right, here's here's a good question. Who

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 2>would you rather have as your second basement next year?

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Your choice of a dirty Jersey guy doesn't matter to me.

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Who or Jake Cronenworth.

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have the dirty jersey guy.

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 2>See this one.

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I have messed with Crone a lot. I mean, he's

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy that should never have played first base in

0:52:56.520 --> 0:53:02.280
<v Speaker 1>his career, but first number, especially the past three years.

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I know he's a guy who's been nice to us.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It's got a great name. This last two years are tough,

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like last year was a nice bounce back,

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>but that was to get back to.

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah average, Yeah, no, I see what you're saying. So

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I want to believe in all these guys, but yeah,

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of just they're all kind of missing something,

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>whether it's like track record or like they're coming off

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a down year or their good year was only half

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a season, stuff like that.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're going by stats and there could

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>be another column made up, maybe like the rest of

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the wild cards, I think I would take over cronin Worth.

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.720
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, like including like McNeil and Glaber.

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, the guy's currently on the back, Stott, Garcia, Fitzgerald,

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Moore. I think I would take all of them

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 1>over cronan Worth.

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I think you're probably right.

0:53:56.440 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And I guess it gets into team. You know, who's

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a wildcard. I'm taking Cronworth off because I think we

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>need a new category. I think Michael mass he's a

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>goddamn wild Ye.

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the third best hitter on the playoff team

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.759
<v Speaker 2>last year, right, I think he's got more in there.

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I think he does too. He was kind of a

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>pest pretty swing. Yeah, like you said that during one

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>talking baseball last year. And I was like, he says

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that about everybody. And then I watched it and I

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, that's a pretty swing. He said that about him,

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:27.320
<v Speaker 2>He said that about a lot of people.

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Yeah, calling me in a question, Luis fran

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>He fills a wild card.

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 2>In terms of his health. Yes, if he's on the field,

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you know exactly what you're gonna get, do you. Yeah,

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 2>two or three years in a row, fifteen homers.

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Ish, those are with injuries and stuff.

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Right the stick broke out, But he kind of can't

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 3>defend career high.

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 2>In games one twenty seven. It's been in the league

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 2>for six years. Kind of don't know.

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think we need to make a new two.

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I think there is a cronin Renhitho McNeil,

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Glaber tieres of like Fats like best yours behind us

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing.

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Are these all former Yankees?

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Former and future?

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean all former future Yanks?

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about all four of these guys being a Yankee.

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, actually not McNeil. People have done him.

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:30.400
<v Speaker 2>You could see any of these guys on either New

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 2>York team. I could say that. I thought Slaber might

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 2>have been a met this offseason. I thought they were

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna do some funky stuff there.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>These are all just future Yankees, future new Yorkers.

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I think future New Yorkers or past and president new Yorkers.

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe ghosts. What do you as ghosts of New York past?

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Like kron and Worth we did episodes on cron.

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Is there something about it being like a fun day dream,

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 3>like because like all four of these guys like, oh

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.879
<v Speaker 3>you got you get them you you talk yourself into

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the year. They're gonna have their ability to fall, you know,

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 3>follow through in a moment.

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Because like all these guys could get Tradedeh.

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 3>How much is probably six.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Four years Yankees were Yankee fans were hoping to get

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>croning Worth back and a Stanton dump.

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Or to or To as the sweet as and Soto

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 3>as the sweetener two years ago. Like for taking that on?

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, are these can you consider these guys vets?

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>They're all like in their late twenties now holds a

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 2>clabor twenty eight clabors.

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's good when it goes wrong.

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 3>It's so about will Will have a good month?

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Is he just dead to you?

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 3>The defense is so bad and like too many routine

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:09.879
<v Speaker 3>plays that don't happen, and like with not a lot,

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can't even like shack free throat and

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 3>be like when the moment matters, Like no, when the

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 3>moment matters, it gets worse. It's like, I think he's

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna hit this year. I think he's gonna hit a ton.

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>America is tough, it is, but he's hit there.

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And like he's more of a doubles guy anyway that

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 3>gets this like true profile.

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Like he let off and was so good in front

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of Soto and Judge for three months including the postseason.

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>McNeil's done the every other thing your guy.

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Great second half last year, nine to fifteen ops in

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the second half. Then he hurt his wrist.

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, like these guys can bring it, but it's just

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>like enigmas or enemas.

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Or will something with all these guys are like they

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 3>will hit to walk off this year. Trump's nice to say.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 2>McNeil had one last year. I'm assuming Labor did labor.

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 3>It happens like Corona Worth. I feel like it like

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 3>gets timely hits. I don't know if that's literally.

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 2>There's something with like their fan base loves them more

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 2>than everyone else. I think like everyone else sees them

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 2>for what they are, but their fan bases love them.

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow, beer goggles.

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I think beer goggles is pretty accurate because, like you know,

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.959
<v Speaker 2>Tigers fans want to believe in twenty nineteen Labor coming

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>back in a way they should, Mets fans want to

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 2>believe well, Matt's fans want to believe in batting title,

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>McNeil coming back, Patres fans obviously want early stages Croninworths back,

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and then Angels fans just want Raineval to stay healthy

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 2>but he never has.

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And again like the nine well, the nine hole hitter,

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Labor and McNeil have led off Ronifo been

0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the line up a lot like

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So with our current list, I'll go down

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the board. You tell me if you need to change

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>one thing. One man party, It's a Marte party, Martel

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 1>five to a light, Ozzy Albie's, Alex Bregman and Marcus

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Simeon kind of some legends. Some Jolly Olive videos raise

0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>up Brandon Low, Matt McClain and Jazz chiselm potential one

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<v Speaker 1>potential there, the dirty Jerseys, the line of demarcation. Nice

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Samanez, Nico Horner, and Bryce Terrang the wild Carts,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce and Stott? What do you got? Tyler Fitzgerald, Luis Garcia,

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<v Speaker 1>Tylon Moore and Michael Massis.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels like a solid tires.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't like when I'm looking on like that, my

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<v Speaker 3>gut does say Stott belongs more Dirty Jerseys than that group,

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<v Speaker 3>but he his last year, last year, I know the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny that the beer goggles are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guys. If you look at them through beer goggles,

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<v Speaker 1>you want more than the Wildcard.

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<v Speaker 2>Their ceilings are higher.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a couple happy hours and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want glaibe at the top. But like, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dot against this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you put them on a graph, the Wildcards, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're like more of a straight line, and

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<v Speaker 2>then everyone below them is like high highs and low lows,

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<v Speaker 2>like to the point where it could really hurt your team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are the beer goggles can hurt your The

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<v Speaker 1>toddler in Tierra's tier, hang on, that was an audible?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that happening good? Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>YEA?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, holiday burrito, This Marlin is gonna kill me, Otto, Lopez,

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<v Speaker 1>High Song Kim, who could fly up this list in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment he feels like his jersey could get dirty

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<v Speaker 1>quick gel Off, brooks Lee, who knows Nick and Zales

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Pirates fans, I like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a proposal for this tier, not so elongate

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<v Speaker 2>the episode I would. I'm proposing Toddler tier and then

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<v Speaker 2>a tier above it. Toddlers with us, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we move up like Holiday, I sunk him, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>Nickenzalz because I feel like I believe in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys in this year a lot more than us,

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<v Speaker 2>just us.

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<v Speaker 1>Being rude to like the Marlins. Like if we had

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<v Speaker 1>watched at O Lopez was a Yankee, would we say

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in a Tierra.

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<v Speaker 3>They're Todds bro brooks Lee's a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I like one, They're tots.

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<v Speaker 2>I like one. Brito.

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<v Speaker 1>Let this be known the Goates, Gorman, Tyro Rogers, Rojas

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<v Speaker 1>all too Big again is on ours because he just moved.

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<v Speaker 2>Rogers might hit twenty home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole bottom this This list was messy. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful mess. I like where we landed, though. I

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<v Speaker 1>think these are true tears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are good.

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<v Speaker 1>These are true tears. I guess let us know why

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<v Speaker 1>we're dumb. Would you like? Would you hate? Please comment

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<v Speaker 1>below Simeon's old jazz Matt McClain let us know. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Jolly All, I thank you to BBD. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be back next week, coming up on baseball.

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