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Speaker 1: Ray is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 1: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas.

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Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see

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Speaker 1: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 1: get her a second date. But first, Ray, how long

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Speaker 1: has it been since you heard from Lucas?

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Speaker 2: It's been two weeks now and been brady or silence.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a little while. Yeah, okay, Well, why don't

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Speaker 3: you tell us about the date?

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Speaker 2: He took me to a rooftop dinner. Super romantic.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice.

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Speaker 2: He split a dessert with me, it was like Disney

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Speaker 2: movie worthy, held my hand across the table. And after

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Speaker 2: dinner he walked around with me downtown and he even

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Speaker 2: made the first kiss. More happens, but not everything happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so you know he came back.

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Speaker 2: To my place. We did not hook up, but we

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Speaker 2: did make out. It was really romantic. You know, we

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Speaker 2: stayed up talkingly, he even stayed over. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: we did hook up, but it was very innocent overall.

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Speaker 4: Do y'all just like sucked?

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Speaker 2: We literally just you know, made out and talked. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And the next morning he even kissed me on the

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Speaker 2: forehead and said it was really nice.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's weird.

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Speaker 3: Why would you go somebody after all of that? Sounds

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Speaker 3: like he really liked you to go back to your place.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, unless he was trying to get it

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Speaker 3: and it didn't happen. Did it feel like he was

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Speaker 3: trying to get more out of you?

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Speaker 2: No, Honestly, I think I might.

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Speaker 6: I've been analyzing it a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think if anything, I think he was just a

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Speaker 2: little freaked out by this little habit that I have.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I'm not sure, but I have

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Speaker 2: this thing where I pull up my phone and I

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Speaker 2: write down little moments that make me happy.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like, let's see, It's like I hear a

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Speaker 2: good quote, I'll save it. If something feels romantic, I'll

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Speaker 2: put it in my notes, you know. If a moment

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Speaker 2: feels meaningful, I'll document it so that I can journal

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Speaker 4: It's weird, would be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I did it at dinner. I paused, like

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Speaker 2: mid conversation, and I typed soft group top lighting the city, humming.

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Speaker 2: This feels like the beginning of something.

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Speaker 4: Okay, did he know that.

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Speaker 6: That's what you wrote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So he laughed and he said, are you

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Speaker 2: like live blogging me or something?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So he was maybe thinking it was weird

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Speaker 1: maybe yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: So then maybe that's not the issue because if he's

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Speaker 5: still like hanging out, Like right, did you tell him

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Speaker 5: that it was not blogging, it's just your notes?

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Speaker 2: I of course, yeah. Like you know, later when he

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Speaker 2: but like maybe he wasn't joking. He said, please don't

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Speaker 2: include me in your memoir. I want our magic to

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Speaker 2: stay a mystery. I mean, I don't cute.

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Speaker 6: But he brought it up again.

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Speaker 1: But he's ghosted you ever since? Yes, yeah, Well, Ray

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Speaker 1: is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a

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Speaker 1: guy named Lucas. So we're about to call him and

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Speaker 1: see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and

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Speaker 1: maybe get her a second date. But before we do that, Ray,

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Speaker 1: why don't you break down your date with Lucas again

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Speaker 1: for us real quick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I had an amazing date with Lucas. You know,

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Speaker 2: he took me to a rooftop bar, we had dessert,

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Speaker 2: held my hand, the works locked around downtown. He gave

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Speaker 2: me a kiss. He ended up spending the night at

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Speaker 2: my place, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but

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Speaker 2: he ghosts me now for what like three weeks and

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Speaker 2: for two weeks. Yes, it's been two weeks. I've take

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Speaker 2: him three times nothing. I think maybe he's like a

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Speaker 2: these sweet moments.

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Speaker 4: Ah, And you think that might be why he's ghosting you.

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Speaker 2: I do think so, because I can't think of any

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Speaker 4: Okay, well are you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak to

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Speaker 4: Lucas please.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, who's calling?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Lucas, how are you? This is a radio show.

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Speaker 1: It's called The Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Lucas.

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Speaker 6: I'm Nina.

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Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name's Jubul. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 7: What why am I getting a call from.

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Speaker 5: A radio show?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Well, we do a segment on

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Speaker 1: the show that's called the first Date follow Up. That's

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Speaker 1: where if you go out on a date with somebody

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Speaker 1: and you ghost them that person can email us us

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Speaker 1: to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting.

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Speaker 1: And we got an email about you from somebody.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, okay, and her name is Ray. Yep, that's

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Speaker 5: what I figured.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ray is all her doing, Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: her doing. Okay, Well, yeah, we talked to her about

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Speaker 1: your date. She said it sound I mean, it sound

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Speaker 1: a fantastic Would you mind telling us why you're a ghostinger?

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Speaker 7: There's just like some stuff going on at work. There's

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Speaker 7: a like there's another girl at work that, uh she's

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Speaker 7: actually like my ex that I dated for four years.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you work with your ex?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we all work together and Ray too. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So like we broke up three months ago, we still

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Speaker 7: share a dog, and like, I guess what I didn't

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Speaker 7: mention is that we also like still live together.

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Speaker 4: Oh so you still live with your ex who you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, only been three months, so it's like not, you know,

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Speaker 7: I just haven't had it not. It's obviously not permanent.

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Speaker 7: It's just that, like I said, we.

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Speaker 5: Were together for four years. We share a dog.

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Speaker 7: So I stayed at Ray's place when I got I

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Speaker 7: just told Aaron. I was like, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 7: probably crash at a buddy's and she like, just to

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Speaker 7: put it mildly, she lost her mind.

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Speaker 5: She confronted me.

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Speaker 7: She was like, yeah, She was like, if you're emotionally

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Speaker 7: moving on this fast, it's only been three months, we

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Speaker 7: no more situationship whatever we're calling this, And I just

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Speaker 7: just hadn't actually ended it with my ex. So I just,

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Speaker 7: you know, I didn't want to bring Ray into I

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Speaker 3: Into you know, but you already Lucas.

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Speaker 4: I do have to let you know that Ray is

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Speaker 4: actually on the phone us to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what I thought it was an email?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I am shocked, absolutely stunned. You could have

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Speaker 2: told me it was about her, And you know, I wondered,

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Speaker 2: and we had talked about it, because you did confide

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Speaker 2: in me so many times about things, but you said

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Speaker 2: that it was casual with her. You never mentioned anything

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Speaker 2: you would eventually tell me and that you would pick

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Speaker 2: her made the best woman that kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't about it was not about like a choosing.

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Speaker 7: It was just like where what the timing of it was?

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Speaker 7: You know, like I know we had a connection, and

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Speaker 7: Now I can sort of pursue this if we had

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Speaker 7: been able to go out again. I wasn't trying to

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Speaker 7: just was like, this part of it doesn't bear that

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Speaker 7: like level of explanation yet. We were just like going

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Speaker 6: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: You literally spent the night at my place and then

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Speaker 2: you went home to her.

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Speaker 7: Well obviously you know, it's not just the kind of

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Speaker 7: thing where you can be like, oh, we're breaking up, okay,

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Speaker 7: I'll be out in an hour, Like your life is there.

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Speaker 7: So it takes a little time. Like I said, it's

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Speaker 7: in process, and once the divorce is final, I'm you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm ready to move on fully.

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Speaker 6: What you're actually married? You're married?

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Speaker 5: What what do you mean? What did you what.

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Speaker 6: You just said divorce.

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Speaker 5: Oh I did.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it seems like you have a lot to

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Speaker 1: figure out, Lucas. But I do have to ask because

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Speaker 1: it is a first date. Follow up, Lukies, would you

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Speaker 1: like another date with Ray? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I mean I would want to go out again. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I want to go out again. I'm interested in her.

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Speaker 7: I had a good time. I just need time to

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Speaker 7: sort things out so I and focus on her, which

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess we should be asking Ray, do you

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Speaker 2: You know, fine, but only if you move out that

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Speaker 2: it's over with Aaron.

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Speaker 4: You do want to go out with him again?

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Speaker 2: I need him to promise me that it's actually over

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Speaker 2: with her and that he's cleared his drawer from her bathroom.

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Speaker 6: Okay, it's moved out, and then.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, Ray, it looks like you're going to go

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Speaker 1: on a second date with Lucas as soon as he

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Speaker 1: figures out it's divorced.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations.

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Speaker 5: Great, you can start to document the beginning of our

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Speaker 5: fairy tale.

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Speaker 2: Hun.

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Speaker 4: Okay,