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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. We are one day closer to

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Speaker 1: Week two and the home opener at lambeau Field Packers

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Speaker 1: Vikings Sunday noon Central Time kickoff. We spent yesterday's show

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Speaker 1: examining the Minnesota Vikings, talking a lot about their team

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Speaker 1: in all three phases and everything that went on in

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Speaker 1: Week one. As we shift our focus back to the

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Speaker 1: Packers here, if there's one statistic from the Week one

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Speaker 1: victory against the Chicago Bears offensively for the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers that really sticks out to me. And I don't

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Speaker 1: like to reave a at things from last year because

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Speaker 1: last year is last year and this is a new era.

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Speaker 1: But that two for twelve on third down by the

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Speaker 1: Packers against Chicago, that one really sticks out like a

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Speaker 1: sore thumb and something that the Packers have to do

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Speaker 1: something about it. And Matt Lafleur talked about it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't sit, you can't live in third

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Speaker 1: and ten plus, which six of those twelve third down

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Speaker 1: attempts were third and ten plus. And you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be in that against even the bad defenses in

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Speaker 1: the league, let alone some of the good ones. But

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Speaker 1: this is something that the Packers you've got, You've got

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Speaker 1: to convert more on third down because because this is

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Speaker 1: just no way to live on offense. No, and it's

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Speaker 1: that's the big thing, and Aaron Rodgers talked about it

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Speaker 1: too during his time with the media. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: have to put yourself in favorable situations there because third

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Speaker 1: down and ten, it doesn't matter how good your offense is,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to reliably be able to convert those.

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Speaker 1: You know, every single timer, as much as you want to,

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Speaker 1: those are maybe maybe one out of four propositions you're

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Speaker 1: going to convert third and ten plus. So what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for is those third and one to third and

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Speaker 1: five kind of situations that you can dictate what you

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Speaker 1: can do there that you don't necessarily have to be

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Speaker 1: able to allow the defense to sell out to defend

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Speaker 1: the past. You have to give them more things to

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Speaker 1: think about. This is where I mentioned where the run game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's still the work is not done for them.

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Speaker 1: This Minnesota defense will stress them in that way as well,

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Speaker 1: the same as Chicago did over the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think with the concepts and you know, on fundamentals

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Speaker 1: and the things that the Packers are preaching here, I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately they'll be able to win this thing out

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Speaker 1: and be able to get the production they want. But

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Speaker 1: in these instances when you're taking on a high caliber

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Speaker 1: your yardage early in first and second down and make

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Speaker 1: sure that Mike Zimmer can't just completely pin his ears

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Speaker 1: back with what he wants to call on third down situations.

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Speaker 1: That's the key to success. I think the huddle, you know,

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Speaker 1: breaking that early enough, getting the you know, not getting

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Speaker 1: the play clock down, doing all those type of things

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Speaker 1: are going to be what ultimately lead the Packers to

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Speaker 1: be in the type of offense they wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams, there's a lot of optimism about them.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it for five six months now of

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Speaker 1: what they can be in this Packers offense. And you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be playing defenses like this. I mean, as Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers told John Coon and his four downs, I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a chance that he thinks that there's a possibility

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Speaker 1: you can have four top ten defenses in the NFC

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Speaker 1: North and you've got to see those teams three, you know,

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Speaker 1: two times throughout the course of the years. So if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get the running game going,

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Speaker 1: you want to continue that. You want to get it

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Speaker 1: done against Minnesota. Yeah, when you talk about the down

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Speaker 1: and distance situation, and looking at Chicago, I mentioned there

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Speaker 1: were six that were third and ten plus, including four

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Speaker 1: ten because of either a penalty or a lost yardage play,

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Speaker 1: um a sack or a lost yardage play with the run.

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Speaker 1: I mean four times in a row of between like

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Speaker 1: You look at the Packers six third down attempts when

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Speaker 1: And you'd still like to be a little bit better

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Speaker 1: explain the caveat here. But even the two that the

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Speaker 1: last second that maybe you're not prepared for. And that's

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Speaker 1: what third down is all about in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes it the money down, that's what makes it

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Speaker 1: so tough. And that's why this statistic is so important.

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Speaker 1: And obviously early in the season you're going to see

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Speaker 1: even more of those unscouted looks and things that you

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that that other defenses is going to

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Speaker 1: anything to hang their hat on third down to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is what we can go

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Speaker 1: be when we're in that third and manageable third and

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Speaker 1: medium type of situation, I think that third down percentage

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Speaker 1: you know you don't want to stay down here in

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Speaker 1: these percentages for very long. Yeah, and this is kind

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Speaker 1: of the situation where I wish John would come barging

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Speaker 1: the we need the blocking fullback. And when I say blocking,

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Speaker 1: the past protecting fullback, who did that so well for

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Speaker 1: all of his years in Green Bay. But the way

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Speaker 1: I've always looked at this, and this is why I

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Speaker 1: wish I could talk to him about it, is I've

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Speaker 1: always looked at the third down situation like this. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, you had the two that were

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Speaker 1: kind of unbroken place. I will never apologize for converted

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Speaker 1: third down. They're so difficult to do in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You want to be able to do it because on

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Speaker 1: the other side of it, you're gonna have the instances

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Speaker 1: where the play does come off clean, a guy drops it,

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Speaker 1: and then the defense technically wins, even though they might

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Speaker 1: because that's where you find the consistency side of it,

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Speaker 1: dictate what type of team you're gonna be on those downs.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I really like about the Packers chances

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Speaker 1: you have three running backs that can all be pass

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Speaker 1: protectors and be accountable there. Jamal Williams is certainly ahead

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Speaker 1: the last few seasons. It's just about finding, Okay, who's

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Speaker 1: those instances, because the offensive line knows what it's about.

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Speaker 1: those situations. Regardless of what the scheme is, it's where

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Speaker 1: those situations? And I'll tell you right now, Mike, if

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Speaker 1: did and put three guys on Davante Adams and those

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Speaker 1: one on one matchups elsewhere. Adams joked about that at

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Speaker 1: but I still want the ball. And you know, everybody,

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Speaker 1: defense pay if they're going to sell out that much

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Speaker 1: damn ball. To steal a line from Keyshawn Johnson and

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Speaker 1: And yes, Valdi Scantling had one on one coverage for

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Speaker 1: for him. We saw it in Philadelphia in two thousand

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, he doesn't have those diva

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Speaker 1: doesn't have those prima donna, whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 1: I don't here if I'm open or not, you're throwing

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Speaker 1: I'm win and I'm there and you don't pass me

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Speaker 1: the ball onto the next play, that's an amazing mentality

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Speaker 1: he's a two time Pro Bowl receiver today. I think

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Speaker 1: is their opportunity to say, hey, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: right there. Because if the Panthers fall to oh and two,

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Speaker 1: then everybody. You know, everybody's going to say, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, hold the hype train on those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is interesting. They'll always seeing the evolution of offenses though, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean Cam Newton still you know, he took a

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Speaker 1: team to the super Bowl. Still an obvious top you

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Speaker 1: know NFL quarterback. But more and more you're seeing how

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Speaker 1: this could easily become Christian McCaffrey's team and how dynamic

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Speaker 1: he can be, no doubt, as you just illustrated with

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Speaker 1: that division. Uh, they need to get him going. I

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Speaker 1: mean they need to feed him and get him the ball,

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Speaker 1: whether it's through the past or through the run. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a guy that could give the NFC sells a

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Speaker 1: lot of problems this season. All right, Well, with that,

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