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Speaker 1: This man is all over ESPN, also on my top

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Speaker 1: five list of best looking people at ESPN. He's got

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Speaker 1: a great set of eyes, he really does. He's Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday and he joined us right now. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: look in the mirror and just say to yourself, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: the eyes are really that fucking good man? Now I

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Speaker 2: Not bankfully not, but I do appreciate the compliment. And

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Speaker 2: I must say this. I gotta start this because I

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Speaker 2: love it. And now I've see it on my phone

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Speaker 2: as well. But I was Dominique Foxworth and I were

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Speaker 2: on this morning together on Get Up, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, He's like, what you got? And I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm actually doing to guys here in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. He's like, no way, and he's like, you

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Speaker 2: know what you're gonna You're gonna love and I was

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Speaker 2: like no. He goes, make sure you tell him you

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Speaker 2: know his real name, John Weener?

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Speaker 3: What damn?

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Speaker 2: And I freaking died. He goes, he's gonna love it,

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Speaker 2: you love it? I said, he nothing. I said, I

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Speaker 2: got a great name. I said, that's an even better name.

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Speaker 2: I said, how good is that? So yes, we had

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Speaker 2: a good time this morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that. I love Dobbiny. You guys

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Speaker 1: work so well together. But listen, I have stayed with

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Speaker 1: the name Stugatts because the real name is so fucking terrible.

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Speaker 4: J I love it.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so you like John Wiener? You actually love it?

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Speaker 4: I love it, dude.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Ain't nobody ever gonna forget I still got this

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Speaker 2: memorable for sure. So so however you came up with

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Speaker 2: that one, that's it's it's it's remembering. Listen, No one's

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Speaker 2: forgetting John Wiener.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: You come in the room. Bro, everybody knows Wiener's been there,

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Speaker 2: and you know what I mean. It like, that's a

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Speaker 2: freaking home run name. I'm like, nobody forgets Saturday. Definitely

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Speaker 2: nobody's forgetting Waiter. So he loved it.

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Speaker 3: I was, but they don't laugh at Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how tortured I was at elementary school

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Speaker 3: Hiding under the desk. I mean, I'm scarred from the Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Just just years of therapy have calling in. How much

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Speaker 2: money has been spit to overcome this name. How good

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Speaker 2: is that? Oh, there's nothing better. This is no joke.

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Speaker 2: So Greenie overhears us and the Greenies in ball we are.

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Speaker 2: Schrager's like, man, what a great deal we were all

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Speaker 2: we were all having a ball.

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Speaker 3: Man, it was great, madam. I'm happy to say hello

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Speaker 3: to all of them.

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Speaker 1: For me, I appreciate that I was telling the guys

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Speaker 1: earlier that I judge how busy a sports day we have,

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Speaker 1: by how quickly Greenie is talking again, as if that's

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Speaker 2: For sure, that's coming to a halt. Let's diwali that boys,

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Speaker 2: we ain't got a lot of way, got a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of runway here. Let's just tighten it up for sure.

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Speaker 2: Today today he was, he was, you know, he hardball

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. For me, he was, he was more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he knows what July is like, and so

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Speaker 3: Can have say and pull over an ownership group in

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But it's like now there'll be a greater degree of

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Speaker 2: it should matter. I mean that relationship matters. Just it

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Speaker 2: you know, make no mistake, he was he wasn't surprised

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Speaker 2: have major influence on whoever comes in behind Jim, I

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Speaker 2: mean behind John sorry.

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Speaker 3: As he should. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you mentioned Dominique and we've I'm.

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Speaker 1: Dominique thinks because he's discussed it with me and Dan

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Speaker 1: in the past, he thinks that you know, an NFL

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Speaker 3: All the stuff, like all the stuff that the coaches.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to deal with, dealing with the media, dealing

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Speaker 1: just let the head coach, who was really at the fact.

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Speaker 4: One one hundred percent interest?

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Speaker 2: And listen, I thought, I think there are two things

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Speaker 2: which is different than culture, right, Like, yes, I can't

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Speaker 2: culture is only created by a coach, because that's not

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Speaker 4: Should be a CEO that Watson.

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Speaker 2: He should not be the guy who is dealing with

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Speaker 2: But I would tell you that that's that's and and

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Speaker 4: He was in the defense, you know, in his first year.

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Speaker 2: And then how kind of how the team now is

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Speaker 2: an insanely good job, like could be Coach of the

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Speaker 2: different way. But I totally agree that it should be

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Speaker 2: a CEO responsibility because you're controlling that and then from

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Speaker 2: from the the hiring like that should be the head

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Speaker 2: you hire the assistant coaches, the guys you trust and

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Speaker 2: They got to know that you're backing them. They should

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Speaker 2: never circumvent you to go to the general manager. It

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Speaker 2: should be that should be the the chart should flow

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Speaker 4: From the from the assistant coaches.

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Speaker 3: I don't want you guys to lose them.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm the Ravens, I would hire Dominique to

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Speaker 1: be the CEO of my team for sure.

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Speaker 2: For the smartest do in the room. We ain't losing them.

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Speaker 2: He and I worked way too well together. Or if

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Speaker 2: he does, my wife if not, gonna be moving to Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's a package deal.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Taylor, Hey.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Taylor, you and c class of twenty sixteen, go heels.

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Speaker 3: Let's walk on wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're talking and giving your opinion about coaching,

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Speaker 3: You better, you better? No better? Your name should be

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Speaker 3: coached Saturday yes, I live.

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Speaker 4: In the world of player.

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Speaker 2: Like I stepped in that role so briefly, and you know,

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Speaker 2: soul with jim irsay. But yeah, you know when I

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Speaker 2: when I left, you ask me to apply full time

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Speaker 2: And I think, like I hear uh Signetti from Indiana

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Speaker 4: What he what he asked of coaches.

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Speaker 2: I was much more in that, like the whole idea

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Speaker 2: that everybody has to be there, you know, seventeen hours

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Speaker 4: That just was never in my in my will.

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Speaker 2: So if that's how coaches had to think, I definitely

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Speaker 2: take the bullets. Right, It's like all right, dude, Like

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Speaker 2: like I love Jim, and I'm glad you have done it.

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Speaker 2: But if you think there was any significant control, you know,

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Speaker 4: The work the world we live in.

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Speaker 2: And it would have looked different, like I said, it

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Speaker 2: would have been different hirings, different places, I mean, different

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Speaker 3: You would never consider coaching again, I'm assuming is that?

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Speaker 2: Like I think I told them I would consider it

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Speaker 3: You know, it's important on get up.

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Speaker 1: But I am wondering here because this has slowed down

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Speaker 3: Because let's say Buffalo lose his first round.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe McDermott is out in Buffalo and that would

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Speaker 3: So you have to kind of wait here if you're

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, I would assume, because he's

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Speaker 4: We were talking about this morning our meeting. We didn't

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Speaker 3: This is so interesting, Jeff, go ahead, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: But these are all great coaches, right.

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Speaker 2: And but the fan bases are they're chomping at the

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Speaker 4: All the time, right all the time.

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Speaker 2: Dude's making calls, Dudes making calls in November. Don't lie

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Speaker 1: Operated right well, real quickly though, sorry, Mike Gay, real quickly.

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Speaker 1: So what Jeff is saying there and it's true, and

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Speaker 1: indeed this is the case, has insinuated to John's agent. Hey,

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Speaker 1: first round, there might be another job.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't sign with the Giants or the Falcons just yet. Yes,

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: How many organizations shouldn't be making that call?

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Speaker 2: How many organizations are like, No, John Harbaugh, isn't better

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Speaker 4: An upgrade and they know it. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 4: As if you're a.

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Speaker 5: Team owner, how many teams wouldn't even make the call

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Speaker 5: he's not coming here. Like the Titans today aren't calling

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Speaker 2: Jets, Oh no, they're calling. They're calling don't don't. Yeah, yeah, nobody.

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Speaker 2: crazier things have happened, believe me. Then, yeah, Tennis, he's

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can only watch and we'll let you go

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Speaker 1: here in just a second.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the time. We know it's a busy time

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 1: If I told you in a weird world you can

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Speaker 3: Games this weekend, which game would you choose? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Eagles Niners?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: I love it like I like I love I love

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Speaker 4: Honestly, probably the coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: He may not win it, but like what he's done

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champion dog they trying to run people

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Speaker 4: Hurts isn't good noos Gianni isn't good enough.

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Speaker 2: But but it with with all the tr transition and

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Speaker 4: Know how rough that that land is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still love the Buffalo game in jag But but

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Speaker 1: They're a special kind of funny, those Philadelphia fans. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they would get rid of Sirianni and they

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable Philly fans, Like I didn't realize how crazy

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Speaker 2: right because I played them, and you know, you go

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Speaker 2: even with success bro, it's momentary, like like from play

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Speaker 4: You, and it is. It is a special place, dude.

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Speaker 4: I freaking love it.

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Speaker 2: I've become an apologist for the Eagles anyway because I

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Speaker 2: So it's fun for me to be kind of removed

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Speaker 1: What do you say to people who were surprised that

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Speaker 1: mutual parting of ways where I'm like, Pushati doesn't do that, man.

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Speaker 2: No, man, Like I said this morning on un sportsman like,

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Speaker 2: nothing ends good. I was telling Evan Colin, nothing ends good, bro, Like,

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Speaker 2: this isn't like nobody all the hugs you get for

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Speaker 2: the press that's coming years down the road, it's not now, bro.

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Speaker 2: This is people's feelings are hurt. John Harbaugh understood they

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Speaker 2: we're going to go that direction and it sucks, man, Like,

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Speaker 2: eighteen years is great, but that means you love that place.

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Speaker 4: All the people. I mean you think.

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Speaker 2: About all the the the different groups of people you

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Speaker 2: get to know as the head coach, right, like all

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Speaker 4: All these This is eighteen years in relationships. You think

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Speaker 2: He was He didn't think he was gonna get fired,

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Speaker 2: right then, right, So when you're people are pissed, bro,

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Speaker 2: feelings are hurt and at some point they'll come back,

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Speaker 2: but it will not be like the Kumbai yah thing.

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Speaker 4: Everybody asks.

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Speaker 2: Nothing is good, man, otherwise it wouldn't end like it's life.

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Speaker 4: Dude, Get over it. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are awesome man. We appreciate you. This was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Say hi to Dominique for me, Greedy, all the guys there,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the day, but I would just stare

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Speaker 2: I were John Wiener. I have loved it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, go heels that you got a

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Speaker 2: tar heel on. Lets me know you're an intelligent human being.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, baby.

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Speaker 1: I never stop calling me John Wiener okay, please never

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Speaker 1: never refer to me as to God's again.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, John Wiener is my way to go to you

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Speaker 4: from now on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeff Saturday, Saturday, I'm sorry. Hey, it's Segott's.

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Speaker 1: The Wildcar Round is here and FanDuel is turning on

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Speaker 1: playoff Mode.

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