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Speaker 1: Boo Light Cap Podcast special guests in here, Ho Vane,

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Speaker 1: what's up? My brother? Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, man, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. Man. It's good to see you. Man,

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Speaker 1: see you. Good to see you keep doing your thing.

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Speaker 1: Like White met you, you was here, then you went

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Speaker 1: to another place. Everywhere you go, you win. That's bouncing around.

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Speaker 1: All you do is win. Yes, for sure, bouncing around,

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Speaker 1: But you're not bouncing down. I've been. I've been in

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Speaker 1: La now since shit twenty seventeen, early twenty seventeen. You're

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Speaker 1: bouncing around and not bouncing down. Not bouncing down is

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Speaker 1: what is important, my friend, very and uh, same with you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you keep leveling up, leveling up, leveling up.

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Speaker 1: I tried to man, God is good. Man. You know

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because I feel like, you know when you're

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Speaker 1: good people and you have good relationships, like no matter

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Speaker 1: what transpires, like you're always gonna end up on top.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you work hard, you're a good person,

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Speaker 1: keep your face clean, you believe in God, anything. God. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy to because you did even do you remember

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Speaker 1: when you were starting to interview artists, didn't you do

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Speaker 1: a ric Ross interview? I did a ric Rolse interview

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Speaker 1: that went crazy, went TMZ everywhere. Then I want to

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Speaker 1: get back to that. I'm gonna say you like like

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Speaker 1: on your back. I did a couple, I did five,

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Speaker 1: I did Charlemagne, I did Lenny As, I did Ross,

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Speaker 1: I did g Z and I did Wex, who was

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Speaker 1: the head of the addas at the time. For people

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Speaker 1: who don't know who you are, kind of give us

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Speaker 1: a breakdown. Who is Hovane? What do you do? I'm

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Speaker 1: a talent manager and I'm a music executive. I'm a

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Speaker 1: doc connector as much as you are a connector. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of times, like I have a relationships

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Speaker 1: that I have respectable relationships with people. Somebody might call

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Speaker 1: me like, hey you know this person, Well, hey do

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Speaker 1: you know somebody at Nike? Could you put me together?

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Speaker 1: Or do you know this person? Do you know somebody

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Speaker 1: in Mercedes? And I just facilitated and I just put

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Speaker 1: put the two parties together. What is some of your

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Speaker 1: talent roster that you work with on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you work with Cinematic and Johnny Shipe. Cinematic Johnny Shapes,

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Speaker 1: that's the home, you know. I'm the president of Cinematic

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Speaker 1: Man Company. We have Paris Bryant, who's in the house

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Speaker 1: right now. We have uh well, I have Styles P.

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Speaker 1: I have Lloyd Banks, Spinning Bands, Ship, KB, Mike, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of artists like hell local Ship. We was managing

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Speaker 1: Tea paying for a little while Joey Badass was with

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Speaker 1: us for a minute. I had wal A for a

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Speaker 1: second bust. The ROMs just get to a point where

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Speaker 1: you can be managing too many artists at once. No,

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Speaker 1: because it's the team, you know what I'm saying. It's

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Speaker 1: not like it's not like you're the soul. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not like I'm the soul, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So like, if I delegate properly, I have somebody that's

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Speaker 1: going to be in place with them, and all I

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Speaker 1: gotta do is make the call or whatever. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's never I don't think it's too many,

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Speaker 1: too many people, because I feel like sometimes you'll see

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Speaker 1: like somebody like they have like six artists a manager.

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Speaker 1: They're like, but they were like handling a lot of

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Speaker 1: it on their own. Yeah, that's that's almost impossible. It's

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Speaker 1: not enough time to day if you want to give

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Speaker 1: people the proper, proper attention they deserve. You got to

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Speaker 1: have a team. So I'm lucky and blessed that I

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Speaker 1: have a team of great people that work with me

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Man, how did you initially kind of

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Speaker 1: get your foot into the music game, like takes to

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Speaker 1: the beginning of your career. Ship At the beginning, I

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Speaker 1: just have one artist, like you know, it was my homeboy.

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Speaker 1: He was rapping, and it kind of like the situation

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Speaker 1: called for a manager, and it was just like, all right, cool,

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Speaker 1: you're the manager. So from now that was like the

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Speaker 1: origin of you just getting involved in the industry. Period

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Speaker 1: start we started BSB, Yeah, we started in music shit together.

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Speaker 1: I feel like managing artists is like kind of like

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Speaker 1: a blanket statement a lot of people make in terms

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Speaker 1: of like yeah, I managed an artist, or I do

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Speaker 1: A and R shit or okay, give me kind of

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Speaker 1: like if you're an artist manager, what are your tasks? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is like define that for me? You have to

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Speaker 1: you have to enhance the situation whatever they have going on.

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Speaker 1: Like so a lot of times people come up to

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Speaker 1: you and be like, hey, I need management. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you don't really have anything too many yet you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, there's no demand, there's no deals to make,

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Speaker 1: there's no interest, there's no revenue that need to be

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Speaker 1: brought in, So you don't need a manager, And I'd

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Speaker 1: probably assess their situation and tell them what they do need.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, a lot of people don't need management

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Speaker 1: to get to a point where it's something to manage.

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Speaker 1: So essentially, you're just putting gasoline on whatever fires already. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you're using your leverage and your relationships to ticket

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Speaker 1: to another level. Like if you come to me and

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Speaker 1: you're seven, my job is to make you a tend

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, maximize and build your talents

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Speaker 1: and give you my tutelage and show you the way

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Speaker 1: to be the best artist you could possibly be. A

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Speaker 1: manager is like a bridge to your to the other

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Speaker 1: side of your potential, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: you might be making one hundred thousand a year a month,

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Speaker 1: let me show you and do these things so we

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Speaker 1: could maximize that, and now we're making five hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: a month. You know what I'm saying. Give you a

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Speaker 1: bunch of strategies and a bunch of disciplinary tools. To

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Speaker 1: get to where you need to go. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's the artists and the talent

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Speaker 1: that is the driving the ship. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like Siri's gotcha, got you? Is it?

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Speaker 1: You know what? It's crazy too because dealing with artists,

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Speaker 1: it's not a magic button. People think managers are a

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Speaker 1: magic button. Like it's also I think what it is

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Speaker 1: is what some people fuck up is they get a

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Speaker 1: manager and then they stop doing the work. That's not it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The artist is the car. The

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Speaker 1: manager is the GPS. The GPS make this road smooth,

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Speaker 1: lead you to the right way, guide you you know

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Speaker 1: you're going on track. Now, this is the way we

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Speaker 1: need to get to where we need to get to,

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Speaker 1: or show you exactly Like some people don't even have

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Speaker 1: a plan for this. So so I'm going to show

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Speaker 1: you where you and your talent can get you to

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Speaker 1: and this is the way we need to do it.

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Speaker 1: To get to this part, you almost want an artist

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Speaker 1: who kind of self manages as well, if that makes sense,

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Speaker 1: because something man I mean, like I've seen it where

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Speaker 1: there's like people who they really need their handheld through

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Speaker 1: every little step of the way, and every artist is different.

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Speaker 1: Some people need a little more handhelding than others. Some

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Speaker 1: people are totally so sufficient, and some artists are like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they need the call in the morning. You'll

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Speaker 1: get up. You know you have a thing today, you know,

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Speaker 1: your flight his itinerary. Some people I could just shoot

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Speaker 1: a text and like yo, I'm on my way there,

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Speaker 1: and the artists might be like, oh, man, already you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So yeah, so you just played

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Speaker 1: it by I guess you just kind of play it.

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Speaker 1: It's ala carte. It's no one managing style that fits

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Speaker 1: every artist. That's real. That's that's that's fair for you.

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Speaker 1: Like if if someone's watching this, who's like an up

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Speaker 1: many what is that noise? Oh? Is it is? It?

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Speaker 1: Is it coming in from that room? Is that that

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Speaker 1: UFC fight? Is that what that is? Yeah? In UFC

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Speaker 1: on YouTube? I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 1: I'm like sports that have been playing in my ear na,

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Speaker 1: But just into terms of like, you know, the music

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Speaker 1: industry is always changing. You know, we always hear about

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Speaker 1: like I was just saying like south By Southwest is

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna do nothing for them. But in terms of

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Speaker 1: like the things that you see artists making mistakes with,

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Speaker 1: maybe like financially because nowadays you can't buy your way

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Speaker 1: onto playlists. You can buy streams. That shit is not sustainable,

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Speaker 1: though you can fake the funk that's not sustainable. You

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Speaker 1: can do all these things, right, So, like you buy

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Speaker 1: sell no tickets, so it doesn't equate. All right, you

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Speaker 1: got seven million monthly listeners, but you can't feel the

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Speaker 1: fill of five hundred cap rooms right, Like you can

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Speaker 1: fake it, but eventually the proof is in the putting

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Speaker 1: if someone's full of ship with their streams? You know?

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Speaker 1: So let's say you guys are interested. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: been interested in an artist and saw their metrics and

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Speaker 1: been like, oh, that Okay, the music is dope, but

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Speaker 1: is very telling. If you if you got fake YouTube views,

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Speaker 1: it's so. And then even if you had a bunch

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Speaker 1: You know when something feels real, Like you've been in post.

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Speaker 1: You've been in this game long enough to know when

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Speaker 1: something's sure. You have enough relationships and friends in certain markets,

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Speaker 1: like if something going on New York, you're gonna call me,

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Speaker 1: is this heating up out here? And like I would

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Speaker 1: do that for you in markets right right, right, right right,

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Speaker 1: And he'd be like, nah, no, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: never heard it. I'll be seeing that s all the time. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Someone was saying, may y'all, I got three million views

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Speaker 1: on my video and I'll check it. It It shiit out

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Speaker 1: like eleven comments. I'm like bron it's nancy. It just

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Speaker 1: put the work in, man, just put the work in.

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Speaker 1: But I mean then you have other the other side

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Speaker 1: of the coin where you'll hear an artists saying that

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Speaker 1: even major labels are beefing up the numbers, are juicing

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Speaker 1: the numbers they've been. It's not fact like we didn't

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Speaker 1: know record label used to buy copies when it was

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Speaker 1: vinyls and CDs back in the day. There's nothing new.

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Speaker 1: Is just a digital age is easiest the same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they used to go buy buy our records to try

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Speaker 1: to get Look what's his projections, Yo, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand short of doing number one. Yo, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go buy those. It's gonna be sitting in the

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Speaker 1: White House somewhere and we're gonna do this is nothing new.

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Speaker 1: This is they've been doing it. Regulate, We've been doing

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Speaker 1: this new ship. It's just in a digital format. Now,

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Speaker 1: how do you know? I think the biggest thing that

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Speaker 1: like it is like a wall that a lot of

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Speaker 1: rappers will hit that they maybe don't necessarily understand is

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Speaker 1: the playlist shit is the Spotify shit. It's like it

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Speaker 1: feels like almost I'm sure for a lot of artists,

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Speaker 1: for young managers watching this who maybe have an undiscovered

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Speaker 1: digital marketing. You need a cameraman, you need a producer,

423
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Speaker 1: you need an engineer, you need a PR person. The

424
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Speaker 1: PR person can come a little bit later on, when

425
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Speaker 1: it is when you need it. Formulate a team and

426
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Speaker 1: start building. Create a plan and stick to it. Don't

427
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Speaker 1: have no plan. B's believe in God, keep it fair,

428
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Speaker 1: keep it ethical, and work. Don't take everything on by yourself. No, no,

429
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Speaker 1: it's impossible. Yeah, it's impossible. You have a team. You

430
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying people when PR come, because you

431
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Speaker 1: know a lot of times I think I see artists

432
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Speaker 1: do the PR thing too soon. As needed, I would say,

433
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Speaker 1: as needed, just like cooking. You know, you know at

434
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Speaker 1: what they say to taste, to taste when when needed,

435
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: When when you get to the point where your faces

436
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Speaker 1: need to be seen in your city and you need

437
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Speaker 1: to be at every party, and you need to be

438
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Speaker 1: in the mix. You need to know the right shit.

439
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Speaker 1: Then you get a pr when people are calling actioning

440
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Speaker 1: for interviews for you and shit like that, then you

441
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Speaker 1: need a p all. Until then you don't need it.

442
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: But the other things you need. You need a videographer

443
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Speaker 1: trailing you every day, studio sessions, you need an engineer,

444
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Speaker 1: you need a producer, and you need a digital marketer.

445
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: And when after you get to that point, you need

446
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Speaker 1: a playlister. What's a digital marketer? Somebody who like, you know,

447
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Speaker 1: you see these things on these websites, star generation, getting

448
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Speaker 1: you that those looks you see you think these should

449
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Speaker 1: just happen organically, like, of course not. Yeah, So there's

450
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Speaker 1: somebody who has a relationship with these people. They're kind

451
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Speaker 1: of like somebody who used to work radio records at

452
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Speaker 1: radio that relationship across the country with the DJs. What

453
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Speaker 1: is a playlister playlist somebody who you don't playlist. You

454
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that use a curated playlist as well,

455
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Speaker 1: because use your curated playlists are very important. They're kind

456
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Speaker 1: of like a all these things cost money everything, so

457
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Speaker 1: save your money. What is that a dollar? Like like

458
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Speaker 1: you know, let's say, what's the minimum dollar amount somebody

459
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Speaker 1: should like try to save up before they really start

460
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Speaker 1: trying to build that ship out, because that's those aren't

461
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Speaker 1: cheap things to put together. I mean you gotta maybe

462
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Speaker 1: you might be able to get a free videographer starting

463
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Speaker 1: out that believes in you, just same with your engineers,

464
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Speaker 1: same with the producer. They all believe in playlisting and

465
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Speaker 1: the digital marketing word. So what's that dollar amount? You

466
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Speaker 1: think minimum A good digital guy is gonna be at

467
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Speaker 1: least at least Fitteen one hundred twenty five hundred campaign.

468
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Speaker 1: Then you're gonna need money to actually give that person

469
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Speaker 1: to run the campaigns. We're gonna get incentive, we're gonna

470
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Speaker 1: do it. We're gonna see these videos out and we're

471
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Speaker 1: gonna do this content and it's gonna cost x amount.

472
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Speaker 1: We're gonna buy this amount of Uh you know what

473
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you need actual money to give that person,

474
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Speaker 1: well the digital market handle your YouTube ads? Yes, okay,

475
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Speaker 1: good one, which is important? TRUEVI you true you? What's

476
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Speaker 1: true of you? True view is like the It's like

477
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Speaker 1: when you see, say a Snoop Dogg video come on,

478
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Speaker 1: and after it, right into it, a YG or somebody

479
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Speaker 1: video come on like something that's very similar algorithms. You

480
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Speaker 1: want to piggyback off that algorithm. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So when you see a high performing video video that

482
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Speaker 1: comes right after it, you know what I'm saying. That

483
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Speaker 1: makes sense. So we think about five five bands, say

484
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Speaker 1: I want to drop a single. If you want to

485
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Speaker 1: drop a single, you drop a project single. A single.

486
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Speaker 1: I said, you should have ten thousand dollars. Ten thousand dollars,

487
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Speaker 1: and that's low low, and make sure your singles mix

488
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Speaker 1: it mastered. Make sure you got money to shoot a

489
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Speaker 1: decent video. You get a decent video shot for cheap.

490
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Speaker 1: You don't got to get a decent video shot for cheap.

491
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Speaker 1: Then you need somebody who's going to work it at

492
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Speaker 1: the playlist level, you know what I'm saying. Somebody who's

493
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Speaker 1: going to service it. But there it is. And then

494
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Speaker 1: another person on the team. When you really you see

495
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Speaker 1: how your team gets so big, then why this person

496
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Speaker 1: got all these people? You need somebody who is gonna

497
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Speaker 1: pitt your shit For Saints, to the movies and TVs.

498
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Speaker 1: That's a that's a bag as well a sink person.

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Speaker 1: The sink thing is uh sing because they because they

500
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Speaker 1: work off of commission, a lot of them. So it's

501
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Speaker 1: like if they don't get you nothing, If you don't

502
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Speaker 1: get you know, you're playing nothing. But so so these

503
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Speaker 1: people you're talking about. If someone's in Wichita, Kansas and

504
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Speaker 1: they don't know any how do they find How do

505
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Speaker 1: you find these people? Nigga? If you know and wich

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Speaker 1: It Talk Kansas, you gotta go where these people are.

507
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Speaker 1: You gotta go to New York, gotta go to LA. Yeah,

508
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Speaker 1: that's like any job. If I'm trying to be an actor,

509
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Speaker 1: you gotta get the fuck out of what's a good

510
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Speaker 1: chance that I'm not going to be an actor in

511
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Speaker 1: which it's all I'm gonna have to move to LA

512
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: or New York have to come and get noticed. So

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, you take your crab seriously. You got to

514
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Speaker 1: go where the people are. Are you the type of

515
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Speaker 1: UH manager who will work with an artist based strictly

516
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Speaker 1: on how good the music is in maybe there's no

517
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Speaker 1: numbers behind. I'm not a number chaser, and sometimes you

518
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Speaker 1: got to go with your feeling. It's like baseball, like

519
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: everything is now is like not by the coach, can't

520
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: really call it's all analytic based, analytic based money ball shit.

521
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: That's not how you you feel a star like, you

522
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Speaker 1: get their star quality when you see them, when you

523
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: meet them, you know what I'm saying, watching them interact

524
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Speaker 1: with people, watching them perform, So that can't be just

525
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Speaker 1: dictated by numbers. You know what I'm saying. That's a feeling,

526
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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's real. I think that's you want

527
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Speaker 1: to do a mix, you want to be a hybrid.

528
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Speaker 1: You definitely don't want to start. I know me at

529
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Speaker 1: this point, I'm too busy to start with artists who

530
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: are at zero. So if you're at a four or five,

531
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Speaker 1: I can help, But if you got twelve Instagram followers,

532
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: it's like I can't do that. And there's other managers

533
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Speaker 1: at this point that can then or willing to do.

534
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Speaker 1: Have you done that where like someone will come to

535
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Speaker 1: you and you're like, yeah, I see the potential, but

536
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Speaker 1: I can't take this on right now every day. Let

537
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Speaker 1: me lob this to somebody who's like, who's like some

538
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: of the other managers that you fuck with that youth. Man,

539
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I don't want to nobody out and

540
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: get offended. I funk with a lot of manages. Man,

541
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Speaker 1: Who's who's your big homie in the manager game? See,

542
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't really have a big homie. Has somebody I

543
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: looked up to eventually rest in peace, Chris Lighty, But like,

544
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't have no big homie. It wasn't no in

545
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Speaker 1: terms of just like somebody who mentoreds you. Nobody, nobody

546
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Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. At the time when

547
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Speaker 1: I was really trying to understand music, I wasn't around

548
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Speaker 1: a bunch of managers. Was lucky, luckily enough, around a

549
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: bunch of executives, Like I was hanging with Sycamore every day.

550
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Speaker 1: We were going to Hot Crib. Joey II and Tod

551
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: Moscowis used to let me sit in the office at Asylum,

552
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: like picking up on deals and what's going on and

553
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: ship like that. I wasn't around the managers, but like WAYNEO,

554
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Speaker 1: Wayne's managed, no more executive. These are my friends, like

555
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Speaker 1: the people, the people of the culture. That's I was

556
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Speaker 1: the interview. Obviously you work with Cinematic, but would you

583
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: ever start your own imprint again? Yeah? You see the

584
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: dope thing about how the dealers with shipes like I have.

585
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I still have my own management outside, Like yeah, the

586
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: banks instead styles away from Cinematic, hope ain't doing good management.

587
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, Like I managed people

588
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: on the outside of that, so I never stopped having

589
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: my own thing. I mean just like a record label though,

590
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh record label, that's I think that might be my

591
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: next phase. Like finding an artist and really just breaking them.

592
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that might be my next phase. I think

593
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: how you see artists, Oh, now you see executives kind

594
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: of like doing that nowadays, like the top monscho is

595
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: how he's with Gucci and Leo, how he's with Doug,

596
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: How you have one guy? That might that might be

597
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: my next phase, like finding artists and signing him to

598
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: me and that might be my next thing. Shout out

599
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: to Hovan, Where are you teaching at Kingsborough Community College?

600
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: A teacher college course on the business of music once

601
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: a week, no not once a week no more. It's semester,

602
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: semester base, but it was ten weeks a ten week semester.

603
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: So I did it two times. I'm doing it again.

604
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: We're coming back in the middle of April and I'm

605
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna have nothing but female guest hosts. Oh fire. Yeah.

606
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Last semester I had Charlemagne beat out Rob Markman. Shipes

607
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Speaker 1: did it zoom on zoom because of the much much

608
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: easier than it's easy hop on a zoom real quick. Yeah. Yeah.

609
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: So it used to be every Monday for ten weeks.

610
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Speaker 1: Iurt and a half class. So I talked to the

611
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: kids about different ship I have shipes coming to them,

612
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: talking about entrepreneurialship beat out, talking to them about podcasts

613
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: and the media right, talking to them about journalism. They

614
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: learned every aspect of the music. I had our CFO

615
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: come talk to them about mechanical royalties and payments and like,

616
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: they learned every aspect of music. So this semester I'm

617
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna I have nothing but female female managers A and rs.

618
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know it's crazy because

619
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned the royalties and mechanicals and all that shit.

620
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: I do feel like the pub side of the music

621
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: industry it's unknown. Well it's the most it just feels

622
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: like the most confusing. I sit down with my CFO,

623
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Speaker 1: the CFO by company, and he gives me like a

624
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: class to myself. I'm still learning as as somebody who's

625
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: been in this game. And you know what I'm saying,

626
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: There's certain things that he told me that I don't

627
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: really fully understand. And I go home and do some

628
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: homework and read on it, Like, hey, what can I read?

629
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Speaker 1: Can you show me some contracts that you know what

630
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's a lot to learn and you have

631
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: to want to learn it. That's why I've been saying, like,

632
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Speaker 1: you can't let nobody take advantage you because the information

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Speaker 1: is out there. You just got to go on YouTube, bro,

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Speaker 1: Everything University, everything is on YouTube. Yeah, Like it's a

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Speaker 1: matter if you want do you want to sit there

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Speaker 1: and do you want to do? That's really all you

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Speaker 1: want to entrust in someone to tell you and that

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Speaker 1: person might be dishonest or they might not know. Like,

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Speaker 1: information is free, man, and I'm a person I like

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Speaker 1: to learn. I'm a teacher in the student. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: that's I think a lot of people that like I

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Speaker 1: feel like the Internet has removed all excuses. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason for you not to know anything. I tell my

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Speaker 1: daughters all the time. Don't tell me I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason you don't know something. That's some real shit, man,

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Speaker 1: that's some real ship. Well listen, ho Vane. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything else you got coming? Oh? Man, just got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of music coming this year from all of my artists.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. See you at the Smokers Club Fest for

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Speaker 1: what that is? That the twentieth thirty. That's in La

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Speaker 1: Whiz headliner headline. I don't even know if Wei's headlining

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Speaker 1: because Blue Bay Fiasco is doing the Whole Food and Liquor.

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Speaker 1: They just added Chief Keef. You do. It's a Smokers

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Speaker 1: Club show and it's in April. Wiz's headlining. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's gonna be crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, he's the first name on

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Speaker 1: the flyer. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of headliners. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to get back on the road this year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of good things. Man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna try to get in the podcast game.

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Speaker 1: I want to, man, I just gotta make time. I

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Speaker 1: want to bring best seat in the house back. I

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Speaker 1: definitely want to have you on and you talk about

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Speaker 1: your story, because your story is when that people might

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Speaker 1: not know. I want to do that. That's what I've

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Speaker 1: been telling myself. I want to learn how to DJ,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get back to my podcast this year.

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Speaker 1: I wrote those down DJ and podcast learn. You could

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Speaker 1: be the manager slash toward DJ. I not even told J.

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Speaker 1: I want to be the guy that does like this.

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Speaker 1: You know how they having Bismarcky come through. That's the

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Speaker 1: piece like he come from KP Kawan Prayer shot to

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Speaker 1: KP KP and the DJ bass broad Shot come through,

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Speaker 1: DJ Pain come through DJ. I want to just like

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Speaker 1: come provide the vibe to a couple of dope places.

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Speaker 1: I respect the whole house. Yeah, you know, I respect

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Speaker 1: what you do your DJ. Yeah. Shout out to my

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Speaker 1: guy Hovan Man, go check him out. What's your haw?

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Speaker 1: Iiji at Hoven everything at hoaang, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, all

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Speaker 1: that I gotta twitch twitch now yet. You can dj

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Speaker 1: on twit on twitch boom