WEBVTT - The Miz

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it, Good do it. They's getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard them about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all you can't

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<v Speaker 1>give it to us and then take it back. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's go good morning, good afternoon, good evening.

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<v Speaker 1>When us what is that afternoon? That is good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>All right us, that's what you're rolling with. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I said. So just I'm just trying to test your

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<v Speaker 1>gangster when it comes to your to your Espanol. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're gonna have some fun with this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got our we talked about doing this segment,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've got our inaugural Big Dummy Award that back

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<v Speaker 1>that Fred Sanford right there, The Big Dummy Award dropped again.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wants a month. We're gonna try to collect

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<v Speaker 1>enough and pick and see which one gets this one

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<v Speaker 1>and and and listen, I hate to what they said,

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<v Speaker 1>kicking man while he's down. But I'm I'm jumping off

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<v Speaker 1>the top rope. Did the Eddie Garri ro leg drop,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, So just to give some contact Seahawks. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>former rookie there we go Farmer Seattle see Hawk Chima

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<v Speaker 1>Sivering and I hope I'm pronouncing that don't matter tried

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak in a female visitor into their team hotel

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<v Speaker 1>during this whole COVID pandemic where everything is locked down.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a visitor and decided to sir, they it

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<v Speaker 1>was had to be tag teams. But they decided somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>along this this route that they we're going to dress

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<v Speaker 1>her up as a Seahawks player to get her in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. So here's my question, give me, give me

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<v Speaker 1>your take on this NFL VET. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the room when these two dummies, you big dummy,

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<v Speaker 1>decided on how they were mastermind. Yeah, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>plane break in? Yeah? Right? Like did he meet her

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<v Speaker 1>like at the at the insurance Probably they're probably start

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<v Speaker 1>from the top of what you ain't happen. They're in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Maybe No, I'm just gonna go I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get him benefit out there in a relationship that's his

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<v Speaker 1>girl and training camp whatever maybe, and he's in there like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see my boot I miss her, and

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<v Speaker 1>they FaceTime and he says, I got it, I got

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<v Speaker 1>the idea. I got a great idea. And her reply

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<v Speaker 1>isn't no, babe, I don't think that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>She tells him, Yeah, I like that one. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I can already poke holes in the stories

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think a wife or girlfriend's gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>along with this one. You don't think so? Um have you?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been in the same place as I bear this?

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<v Speaker 1>This quarantine has really shown there something. There's some folks

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<v Speaker 1>that when they get on the elevator and their body

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<v Speaker 1>in their minds our floors. It's a few are missing.

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<v Speaker 1>So some don't go all the way to the topics,

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<v Speaker 1>which just hell, some of my under construction indefinitely mean

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<v Speaker 1>they just boarded up. And and here's the here's the part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're in trouble when you got a floor thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already in trouble. The elevators go to Florida, so

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<v Speaker 1>they faced time. They faced time, and they say this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress you up

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<v Speaker 1>as a player. So when you come in there, don't

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<v Speaker 1>make eye contact and don't talk to nobody. Nobody. Throw

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<v Speaker 1>this a just throw this all. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know did she have ye what was the component like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did he give her hoodie? Or did he give

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<v Speaker 1>her like his work. I'm trying to sweatpants because if

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<v Speaker 1>she got on shorts, then they made that may tell

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<v Speaker 1>the whole possibly right, because we don't know. Now, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've laid with some guys who do not look

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<v Speaker 1>like NFL football players. Hell I don't at times. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>five nine three, four hundred nineties something d ninety seven pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Why receiver? You line me up next to Calvin Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, who's the wide receiver? That the short guy

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<v Speaker 1>is not that so I and that's why I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it depends on what that individual looks like

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<v Speaker 1>when you put it in the category of examining that

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<v Speaker 1>individual as a superior athlete. Not all superior athletes look superior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the talent, that's the gift of God. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you have God given abilities. But I just am

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<v Speaker 1>completely confused on why they thought that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to fool the team and just walk

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<v Speaker 1>up in there like she's a player, that we who's

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<v Speaker 1>the new person? Because you also got to think that

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<v Speaker 1>there could have been some other things. You could if

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<v Speaker 1>you was going to go to dress up, bro, that

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<v Speaker 1>could have been some others. They were in the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>so she could have been she could be have been

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<v Speaker 1>room service, these security, no, these brain surgeons. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be another player? Yeah, I got it, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't hunt your Dave and clowney stuff. Stuff. Nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>notice that is gone, is gone. And you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get up, let me get these sweats. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>What sides that? Well, I'm a small your medium today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think David was no, but I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>he just grabbed some stuff, walked in there and then

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<v Speaker 1>they called it and not just you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurt. I'm I'm the individual. Let's be honest. Is

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<v Speaker 1>she a person who has maybe done some things that

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<v Speaker 1>they've done before, which and I mean just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know how you got some people where, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, you wouldn't necessarily commit a crime with them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know you've got some folks like they will

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<v Speaker 1>tell on themselves, right, They're getting nervous, get anty, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, like hurt. I wish I could like be

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind, a psyche like her psyche. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to anybody? Do they know? I'm running? I'm runn

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<v Speaker 1>through the progressions? And they noticed that I'm really not

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<v Speaker 1>a player? What do I work? Does this make me?

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? And I'm being a guy and being

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<v Speaker 1>a husband? Does this swett? Who make me look fat? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to make you like you're on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a whole bunch of stuff. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the story is they got caught. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out when she walked in, Like

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<v Speaker 1>was it a side door? Did she walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>front entrance of the lobby like here you know? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it the sneak in like you know everyone everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>been a teenage? Do you know you're getting If I

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<v Speaker 1>just close my eyes, they won't notice me, right? Or

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<v Speaker 1>did she walk into like did they FaceTime and go

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<v Speaker 1>over the walk you know, walk like a dude, like no,

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<v Speaker 1>walk like a corner and put a little pull, a

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<v Speaker 1>little pip of your step, and you know it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we try to imitate guys, right or when you try

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<v Speaker 1>to imitate somebody, you're just kind of like who walks

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Right? Are you watching? Yeah? Yes, you try

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<v Speaker 1>to discus Oh yeah yeah yeah, uh huh. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>this did not work and his ass got fired. Chema

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<v Speaker 1>lost his job, so he didn't didn't even get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Good even. But I guess seriously though, as a vet,

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<v Speaker 1>something like this happens all the time. Dumb dumbs all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Oh no, you it's just stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is about us athletes, but we really

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<v Speaker 1>believe don't remember that the athletes, bro, no, no what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this athletes, we really believe we could do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I'm talked about that sometimes we people have done

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<v Speaker 1>things like this before. You everyone that started to sneak

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<v Speaker 1>someone in the house and sneak out of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>you snuck into like people have done that you know about.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so don't just don't just limit that the athletes. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah there's not but this athlete is one big you

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<v Speaker 1>big DUMBI first recipient of the first Recipient Congratulations Schema Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that virtual unemployment line is long. Pick a number? You did? Alright, guys? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who's our guest for today? Coming up on the Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It podcast, We've got The Miss, a former Real

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<v Speaker 1>World star who's turned w W superstar. He's a former

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<v Speaker 1>champ who now host USA's Cannonball and Miss and Mrs.

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<v Speaker 1>Alongside his wife. The Miss. Well, this segment we got

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, Miss is called get Iced Up. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>version of an icebreaker. The random questions that we formulated.

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<v Speaker 1>Smithy may and may not have a follow up. It

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<v Speaker 1>may be something to where we get down a rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, but this is our segment of called Getting

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<v Speaker 1>iced Up. So Smithy, go ahead and give him the

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<v Speaker 1>first one. Alright, what is your favorite scent? Favorite scent? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a car scent. My wife whenever she puts on

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<v Speaker 1>this perfume, I don't even know what the perfume is,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, but when she puts it on and

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<v Speaker 1>she walks by me, my my, literally, my nose just

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<v Speaker 1>follows the whole thing. It's like it's like literally, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like floating in the air just right behind her. What

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<v Speaker 1>if that was old spice? What would you do? Right? Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if Old Spice is paying me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot money, then I'll guess what it's Old Spice, bar

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<v Speaker 1>glow you know whatever that whatever that's soap is. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can learn a new skill, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to play guitar, Like I'm even trying

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Like I have a buddy that plays guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and he like teaches me like through like face time

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I just can't get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't pick it up. I can't pick up a musical instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I have too baby girls, and uh, once

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<v Speaker 1>they're old enough, I want to teach them how. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not me, but have someone teach them how to play instruments,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's something I've always wanted to do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you're an entertainer, like being a rock star is

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<v Speaker 1>like always on that list of things that you've always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. But I don't have a good voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't play an instrument, but I can entertain you,

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<v Speaker 1>So probably why I'm a w W superstar. Yeah. Your

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<v Speaker 1>top three email subscriptions Email subscriptions. Honestly, I try not

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<v Speaker 1>to subscribe to anything because I don't want emails at all. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get so many emails a day that are just

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<v Speaker 1>garbage emails that honestly zero. I don't want any subscriptions whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's none you look forward to at all. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly I get I get like when I wake

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning, I have thirty emails and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those people that like the red dots

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone, like I have to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>them so I can go through forty eraces, which takes

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<v Speaker 1>me about you know, five minutes of going through things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so no, I don't want an email from anyone

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. I don't even like emails. I'd really have

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<v Speaker 1>a text message. All right, Well you would hate my

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<v Speaker 1>email because I got emails over. I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not do My wife has the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see your phone, it drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it works fun for me. So well I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what emails subscription you need to get because I

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<v Speaker 1>do it one a hundred flowers. So when I saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, occasions, I'll get off. So it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like those, like I'll leave on a Wednesday Thursday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets up, there's a there's a bouquet of roses

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<v Speaker 1>for Debonair Smithie. Yes, I'm I might. I might do

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<v Speaker 1>that tonight. I think I might just have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that this week and get some get some brown dosing points,

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<v Speaker 1>you come back. I uh, last one. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think your best quality is? Uh? Sometimes I think my

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<v Speaker 1>best qualities are my worst qualities. It depends on who

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking to. UM, I think I'm very outspoken, I'm loud,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obnoxious, and for some that's fun, that's entertaining. Other

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<v Speaker 1>times it's a bit much, and I know him a

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<v Speaker 1>bit much and so uh. And sometimes I literally my

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<v Speaker 1>mouth just goes and I'm like, oh man, did I

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<v Speaker 1>really just say that. I can't believe I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people are like, that's the most genius thing

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever said. Other people are like, that's the stupidest

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<v Speaker 1>thing you've ever said. So you never know what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen with me, you know. Okay, Well, let's get down

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<v Speaker 1>to how about you. What's what's your best quality? My

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<v Speaker 1>best quad? Let's see, I have so many I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to go. Uh. My my gift and my

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<v Speaker 1>curse is um, I think about things so simple but

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<v Speaker 1>yet so complicated and I go down a rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 1>that where it's like my wife is like, Babe, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that serious. Where are you from and what do

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<v Speaker 1>you call home. I'm originally from parm Ohio. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>suburb outside of Cleveland. Obviously. The reason I'm a Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Browns fan is because I've lived there in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Los Angeles when I was about one,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I literally lived out here ever since. Um

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<v Speaker 1>So now I live in Los Angeles. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy and sonny every day. Uh there's no humidity and

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, sometimes a little hot from just a heat.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually went to Austin for one year because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't want to pay state taxes anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna move to Texas where you don't have state

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<v Speaker 1>taxes that eleven percent will get you. So I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to uh, Texas for one year, and I literally said, Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas is not for me. My wife said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We both literally lived there. We moved like literally we

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<v Speaker 1>had a baby and then drove all the way in

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<v Speaker 1>a in like a like we kind of had like

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<v Speaker 1>this RV like this big bus that we just drove

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<v Speaker 1>in and thought it'd be fun little trip. We did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and a year later we were doing the same exact

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<v Speaker 1>thing back to l A. Because we were just like,

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<v Speaker 1>look we are l A people. Uh threw the eleven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay the eleven percent state tax just to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, family version of rule grooves, Yeah, a hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, And it was like that because I had me,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, my two dogs, my two cats, my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>who was three weeks old, and then my my mother

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<v Speaker 1>in law. We're all in this bus and it was

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<v Speaker 1>my cat was NonStop me owing the entire time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't let you even come near him, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had to shove him like in a bathroom, so we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't uh you know, like sick everyone. My two dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have a Doberman and a mint in. My

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<v Speaker 1>Doberman didn't even fit in the place. He She had

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<v Speaker 1>gas the entire time, which stunk up the entire bus.

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<v Speaker 1>We forgot my mother in law at one stop because

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<v Speaker 1>she said, um, she said she was the bathroom. Well

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, say you're at a truck stop,

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<v Speaker 1>right and you're you're getting gas. Your mother in law

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<v Speaker 1>my convenience. She goes, I'm going to the restroom. So

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<v Speaker 1>we go, okay, fine, worth thinking she went to the

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<v Speaker 1>restroom in the bus. She didn't. She went to the restroom,

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<v Speaker 1>And why would you go to the truck stop when

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<v Speaker 1>you have you have you have a good bathroom at

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<v Speaker 1>the bus. And so we started driving elson we get

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<v Speaker 1>a phone called you son of a mother, blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah with her French accent. So yeah, we forgot her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had to drive back. So it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely a nice little road rules episode if you want. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how did your upbringing impact your view on the world today? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>My upbringing? Well, where I'm from in Parme, Ohio, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to high school, After high school, go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>At college, go back to Parma, Ohio. You get a job,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a family, and that's exactly what you do

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. When I got onto

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<v Speaker 1>a show called The Real World, Back to New York, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it basically put me in like the melting pot that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, New York. It opened my eyes up to

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things, and once I got there, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of realized that I could do anything. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>with my life. So what was my dream? What did

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<v Speaker 1>I always want to do? And I always want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a w superstar. The problem is where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back then you'd have to be six seven three pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of pure solid muscle, and I was not that. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the real world, like I was

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone said I couldn't make that show, and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you when you finally see a goal, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe for you, and I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is your story, but maybe for you it might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you want to play football in college, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you make it into college and you play football

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh my god, I'm I'm playing football

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<v Speaker 1>in college. Maybe I can do this the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>then literally you hone in and you drive yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the NFL. Then when you make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL, you go, all right, I don't just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a wide receiver. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the the most premier wide receivers out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you do that, you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a Hall of Fame career. All right, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>now I want a Super Bowl. So you keep your goals,

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<v Speaker 1>keep excelling. So one again. On the real world, my

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<v Speaker 1>goal excelled to be a W superstar. When I became

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<v Speaker 1>a W superstar, I wanted to be the biggest WW superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be, you know, main event WrestleMania, b

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<v Speaker 1>w W E Champion, win all the titles. And then

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<v Speaker 1>once I've done that, now I want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that I have a Hall of Fame career.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get back to being a Universal Champion

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<v Speaker 1>or w W Champion. I want to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>being main event of WrestleMania, you know. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to do other things and not not only do

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<v Speaker 1>I have my own reality show. Now I started on

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<v Speaker 1>the real world, I was just a cast member. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer. And I also start in my

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<v Speaker 1>own show that gets incredible ratings, Miss and Mrs on

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<v Speaker 1>the USA Network as well, and so and now also

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<v Speaker 1>I'm developing a couple other shows for other people. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've kind of except exceeded my dreams and

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<v Speaker 1>expectations and my goals, and I keep on going and

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<v Speaker 1>doing it because that's just where my mindset is now.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like that when I was in Parmer, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Real world changed at all. If I wouldn't have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the real world, I would have been at home flipping burgers.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have dropped out of college because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>very good at it. Um, you know, I was good

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<v Speaker 1>at school, but honestly, I just enjoyed like school, school,

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<v Speaker 1>college school more than anything else. And I probably have

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<v Speaker 1>dropped out and just went back and worked for my

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<v Speaker 1>dad at a local Mr Hero flipping burgers. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>correct in your assessment of like where you were, Like

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<v Speaker 1>would you say that's how kind of your goals kind

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<v Speaker 1>of happened or did you always have that goal like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a NFL star, no doubt my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good question for me was Um, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad plays semi pro football. I always wanted to play football.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I knew. That's all I wanted. That was

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<v Speaker 1>on my old desire. College was not on that road

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<v Speaker 1>trip of success. But for me, I guess what is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different is once I got to the

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<v Speaker 1>league and I realized what it was, I started to

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<v Speaker 1>have to equip myself around how to were just to

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a football player. How do I master my craft?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I become one of the best. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I started to realize, well, what is one of the best,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was on the team we were my

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<v Speaker 1>first year, we were won of fifteen, but I I

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<v Speaker 1>played with some I was on the team with some

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I I had admired, but I was also

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<v Speaker 1>on the team where I wanted to be better than them.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was very complex because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily looking down on them, but growing up as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan like you are of of Hawk Hogan, Rady, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Macho Man, Randy Savage, the Honkey talk Man, Brutus de Barber, Beefcake,

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys. Those were the guys Jerry Rice right,

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<v Speaker 1>John Taylor, those guys I looked up to because I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Los Angeles and I was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>forty Niners fan, and Tim Brown where the team I

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<v Speaker 1>was on, I didn't believe any of those guys were

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<v Speaker 1>in that category. So if I didn't believe kne of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys in that category, I kind of saw them

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<v Speaker 1>I once. I didn't see him as equals or I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look up to him. I just saw almost like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my guys that I want to emulate aren't on this team, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be one of the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the teammates. Who's who who's like a brother of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>is a good friend? Was muss and Muhammed. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be better than Moose And so did you have

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<v Speaker 1>did you have um a person that that you would

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<v Speaker 1>that would teach you or guide you or go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be Jerry Rice, you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like these talents, these are what these guys

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<v Speaker 1>did to do that. Did you have anyone like that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>So that another great question. I looked at the guys

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<v Speaker 1>as my teammates. I just looked at him as guys,

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<v Speaker 1>like like A great example of that is at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when I was drafting two thousand one, which was

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<v Speaker 1>around the same time that you were in a world

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<v Speaker 1>world mhm, I was looking at Moose and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be on the record books, and Moose

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<v Speaker 1>at that time was the record books. That my goal

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<v Speaker 1>was two be the best Carolina Panther wire receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>in their history. That was your goal, then that was

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<v Speaker 1>my goal in my mind. I said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>erase moose in from the record books soutique. So to

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<v Speaker 1>have that mentality to erase somebody for the record books.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically you can't be friends with them. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at Moose, and I believe Moose looked at me. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point in our careers we were enemies on the

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<v Speaker 1>same team. So when he make a one hand to catch, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I'm like, well, I'm gonna make four

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<v Speaker 1>one hand to catch us. If he's gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>hunter yard game, man, I'm an average a hunter yards

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<v Speaker 1>and elevate your It was making me but but it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't elevating it in the way you think it was

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<v Speaker 1>an elevating it to where I mean, this is my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I man, I wanted to be I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>the standard like I didn't want but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>relate it back to even with with with miss and

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<v Speaker 1>you like, it's having a goal, then I achieve that goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is I have to recalibrate it's not, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be the standard I wanted When you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Carolina Panthers, when you talked about w

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<v Speaker 1>w E, I didn't want them to talk about well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy that guy, I'm the damn guy. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the same exact way like whenever I see a

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<v Speaker 1>poster that I am not front and center, whether I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the poster or not, if I'm not front and center,

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<v Speaker 1>it infuriates me, and it makes me want to work

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<v Speaker 1>harder and figure out a way how I can be

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<v Speaker 1>the focal point of not only that poster, but the show,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire show SmackDown on every Friday. If I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the focal point of that show, you better believe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working towards to becoming that thing. But the thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>different than you is I look at everyone as my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>like how come you can't uh, you couldn't look at

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<v Speaker 1>as moose as like Jarvis and O'Dell look at each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They elevate each other. They literally are saying, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make you better. You want to make me better.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be better together. Well one they grew

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<v Speaker 1>up together. They want to Now you you're living in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. You know the listeners. We don't wanna We

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you to tell exactly your your address location.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you in l A? Because I'm from I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the suburbs. I used to live in the in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I live in the suburbs like I live

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<v Speaker 1>past Calabasas, like I'm in a thousand Oaks area. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you used to live in the Hollywood area,

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<v Speaker 1>I lived off A hundred and six and Avalon. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a mile from Welcome to Compton. Okay. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have friends. You either with me? Are you against me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you against me? But we can't be on the

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<v Speaker 1>in the same wagon like we we The truck does

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<v Speaker 1>not come with two staring wheels. It only comes to

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<v Speaker 1>a one stam wheel. And honestly, I've been driving, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a family. I probably sat in my back seat twice.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't share, I don't I'm not sitting in

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the back. I don't care what the back seat or

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>how much room you got back there, because I'm only

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the front and I need to be comfortable.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of how I looked at it. I mean,

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's just a mentality that I grew up with.

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you go to school in the Content area as

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>well to school in l A. I mean, okay, a

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>few schools, uh, because I got in trouble a few times.

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But I went to a few school all right, Um,

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you how you stayed out of

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the trouble and how you how you geared yourself to

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a football the reason that that that geared

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you away from everything that that's out there or well, well,

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>if my mom was on here, she would say she's

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>still working through that in process. Uh, I mean sports

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was that. Um, there was a lot of different things.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>It was unique because back in the day, man, you

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>could get in trouble if you wanted to, no matter

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Like I mean, dudes got beat up

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and shot or it was faced at the escaping ring, right,

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>So there was always stuff right foolishly. I remember we

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>stole quarters out of the pact miss pac Man machine.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not the average five nine guy, so my

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>arms are pretty long, and so I was the short

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>guy that they I was standing up and it was

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>a little and my hands are so big that I

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 1>was actually able to grab a whole bunch of quarters.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And then the manager of the laundry, Matt Sauce, and

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>we all took off running and some kids got caught.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get caught, and I remember his kid named

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Random Random. I ran everybody. I ran home. That's what

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 1>And I remember Junior got caught and he was like, hey, Steve,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>are you good? And I looked at you know, we

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>had the screen porch, you know, the spray play in it,

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>so you can't know. You don't know if that's if

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>you're looking or anything. Ain't trying to get me come

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>out there. Oh boy was hiding in his truck waiting

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for me to come out because Julia had negotiated with him.

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the kid that stole who has and

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll call him man, Julior. Junior got his asshole. I

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>was gonna put up he got, Okay, dooke on them.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>We beat Junior down. So but the old old school,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have to take a break and the

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>morning anything, we gotta pay some bills. I I talked

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to some folks and then some poland they that I

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're gonna like this question. And but man,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody freaking wants to know, like take us through this process.

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Because I grew up watching a real world. I was

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at that stuff and I remember you,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and I remember your great relationship with a friend and

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we will talk about but I remember the miss and

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that persona you were building even on that how instrumental

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>was going on a real world for you. I wouldn't

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>be where I am today if it wasn't for the

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Real World. If John Murray and Mary Osbunim didn't pick

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>me to be on the show as a cast member,

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I would not be where I am today. It changed

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>my mind frame. Like do you ever have moments in

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>your life that it just changes the way you think.

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what Real World did for me. And some people

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>have that happened in middle school, high school. Some people

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have it and happen until in mid middle life,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, but there's some there's some times in your

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>life there are moments where you can look at and

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you can go this changed everything. And that's what Real

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>World did for me. And it not only changed that,

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>but it changed the way I thought about things, like,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I was I was in my own

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>little Bubbalos, in my own little Parma, Ohio, you know,

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little spot and going onto the real world,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>meeting the six people from all different walks of life,

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>getting educated about these different people and where they're from,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>how they grew up. It made it gave me an

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.479
<v Speaker 1>interest on everyone and everything and so that allowed me

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to literally go, I don't want to live in Parma anymore.

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I want something bigger. I want something And I love Parma,

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the city. I love Cleveland, but I wanted

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>something bigger and better. And I that's why it was

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>either New York or l A is where I was

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna move and uh l A has se and sunny

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>every day, So I'm gonna take the uh the better weather.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>And so I moved out there and set out for

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a dream. You want it better? It set you up?

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>What was other than the way you laid it out

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>so clearly for us talking about your hometown. You know,

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you got you go to college, you get a degree,

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you could come back, you come back to Ohio, right, Yeah,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you didn't a cookie cutter life, which I agree and

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I and I and I understand. But what was what

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>why was getting on the real world? Like take us

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>through that, Like, why was that your only route to

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>get out of Ohio? Because you were you were in

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>college at the time. It wasn't the only route. It

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>was just the route that I like. So, for instance,

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an example. So I was at college,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I was Miamive, Ohio is a Theta Kai. There was

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a fraternity and I'm watching the rail World New Orleans

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's a commercial. Comes on, do you want to

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>try out for the railroad? In my head, I said yes,

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Well here's how, and so I said in, I sent

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>in this this video I'll never forget. I took my

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>VHS cam quarter and here's how we edited it. By

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the way I put it, I attached these uh, these

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>these wires to my my VHS uh tape. You play

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you press record, and that's how you edit.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's how editing was last time. There was no computers.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, are you kidding me? Like now they

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>take a bunch of takes. I'm like putting this thing

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>out over my shoulder and then I put it on

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a tripod and I talked to it. And then so

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I sent this video and by the way I put

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it in like this Manila envelope with all these pictures

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>of me, you know, on things I did, this will

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>stand out in the crowd, right, And it obviously did

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>because then like I got a fifty page application, Yeah,

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty pages exactly right. So I I they asked everything, Well,

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>your parents are like where are you from? YadA, YadA, YadA,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>all the right now, yeah, a little bit almost so.

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Then so then after that you have this, uh you

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>have this like phone interview, but the phone interview, they said,

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>put your cam quarter up um to where we can

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>see you talking, and then we will ask you the questions.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>What be on speaker phone with us, and then we

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>will and talk to the camera like you're talking on

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the real world and when you're asking answering the questions.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So literally I did two of those interviews. Then I

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>did an in person interview in Detroit. Had to drive

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>up to Detroit on my own money, by the way,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a college kid. I don't have any money.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>So literally I'm like struggling for gas money to get

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>up there, and drove up there, did it. And I

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>remember this this interview, and I was always trying to

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>figure out how people would cry on the real world,

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like you ever see people like in

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>interviews crying, And I'm like, dude, you're on the real world,

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You're in this multimillion dollar place you live in the life.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>How can you cry? I don't get it. And once

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I was done with this interview, like I remember the question,

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the question like there was a question, and these are

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the questions that they would ask. And I was like,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>this is how they get people cry. Now I didn't cry,

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>but this is how they get people to cry. They're like,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 1>all right, Sam an onion and you're an onion. And

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we peel away the fract guy. We peel away all

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>your friends, peel away, all your your family, peel away

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the divorce your parents had, peel away, this peel away

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that what's at the core of Mike Nazanin. And I'll

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>never forget my answer because honestly I could. I couldn't

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>even tell you. I was like, I don't know. I

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>really don't know. I don't I wish I could tell

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you like a cool answer like oh yeah, this, but

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>if you peel away everything about me, then there nothing's left.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I remember um going to that same casting

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>director once I was on the show and after we've

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>done filming, and I go, why did you choose me?

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, it was that question, because I asked

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that question to everyone, and yours was the most real

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>and it was the most heartfelt and you could tell

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it hit a nerve, but you but you allowed me

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to see that nerve and I like that. And then

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I asked the guy, the executive producer, UM, why he

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>chose me? And he goes, I didn't. I thought you

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>were a buckethead. And I went, what and he goes, John,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>John Murray and Mary Elie wanted you on the show.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>But to be completely honest with you, I am so

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>glad that you were on the show because you were

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so open, so honest, and you just wanted to learn.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what you did. And you you allowed

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the process of the real world and you allowed us

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 1>into your life. And that's what I said. I said,

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>if I'm going on the real world, I'm giving you

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>all of me everything. I'm not gonna like some people

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll hear go you know, aggravated about how they were

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>edited or how they were portrayed, and those people like

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and I've been on shows where people I see that

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>they edit themselves. They they they are a completely different

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>person that they are camera, that they are that they

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>are off of the camera, and so when they look

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>at themselves on camera, they go, that's not me. And

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I'm going, yeah, that was I saw you.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly who you were. And so some people get

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>mad about editing, but I was like, I'm just gonna

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>be me and just gonna allow it to happen. And honestly,

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I did because the process was a

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>learning experience all the way from doing the real world

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to doing the challenges as well. It taught a lot

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>about myself, a lot about hard work, dedication, and you

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>know is people look at it and go, oh, it's

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>so easy to be on the challenge of the challenges.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I look at as a sport, you know. I mean,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going for a lot of money and you have

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>chances to get eliminated from these things, and you know,

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>some of them, some of the people, this is what

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 1>they do for a living, you know, so and it's

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot of money, but it's not a

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of money because if this is your life, that's

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>what it is. You said, they edit all of that,

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, edit they're filming you, guys, twenty four hours

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>for five months, for five months. What was what was that?

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Did that entail? Did you? You know? Like, because even I,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I do TV and there are times when

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we're in a studio they tell you, uh, in between breaks,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>bro kill you Mike if you have to go use

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a bathroom because the control room can hear everything can

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>be a hot Mike. Everything is on. They have everything.

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 1>They literally like there is a storage room in Bunimury

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that has everything. And I'm talking like like they film

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>everything there with there's people with you seven so like

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>say we all go to bed, they still have cameras

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>on you while you're sleeping, and then when you wake

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>up in the morning, there's a camera in your face. Uh.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're in a fight and you don't

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>want sometimes you don't want to, you know, do something

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in front of a camera. You have to. It's that's

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>what you signed up for. That is the real world.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And the real world I always say, is the closest

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>thing to real life. Um. You know, everything else now

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you can look at and you go, oh, that's scrap dad,

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that's this, that's that. Um. I always looked at the

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>real world as just the closest you can get to

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>real life. And obviously editing music, um, you know, in

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 1>order to to be entertaining, Like think about your life

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>on a day to day basis. It's not all funny games.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you see highlights of a person's life. If you

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you saw in my life, like literally, it's like

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not entertaining to wake up every morning at six

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty and see me ahold of baby and then change

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the baby every day the same thing. It's gonna be boring.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>You want to be entertained, and that's exactly what the

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>real world does. It gives you that reality aspect of it.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's entertaining because you see the highlights of what

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is going on in a person's life. I think it's

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>about that time. Just take a little breather. Good, good, good,

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>let's talk. So take us into the locker room of

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>being a w W E superstarre fact. When I was

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>first starting in w W I kicked out of the

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>locker room because, uh, there was huge amount of respect

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>when you So for instance, when you walk into the

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>locker room, you shake everyone's hand. That is a standard

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that you know, was you know ingrained in you

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>as a ww superstar. You shake everyone's hand, and all

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the veterans there, you thank them for you know, what

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they've done for the business. And it's literally like every day,

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>like so every day you walk into the locker room

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and you shake everyone's hand. This was fifteen years ago.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of teetered off um now, and

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the locker room is is better for it.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>There are things that I miss about the old locker room, UM,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but I like the fact that everyone walks in with

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a smile on their face and everyone is trying to

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>make everyone else better. Um. You know, back then, I

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like it was more competitive, you know how you

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>were saying, like with Moose, like you were like, I

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>want to be better than this guy, and I'm gonna

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>be better than this guy. We weren't friends, you know.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt that that kind of competitiveness you know back then,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>like where you know, people would maybe tell you the

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>wrong information so you wouldn't get better than them. And

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>then there were others that that took you under their

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>wing and literally guided you. Guys like you know, Shawn

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Michaels took me under their wing and you know, literally

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 1>gave me advice that I still used to this day.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, John Cena literally like you know, being in

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the ring with me with with John Cena taught me

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>how to be a main inventor in a w W

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>E ring. If I would have never gotten the ring

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>with John Cina I wouldn't have known that. And it's

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of getting in the ring and being

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and feeling and understanding what it is to be a

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>top level talent like John Cena is. M wow. So

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>those so those are rivalries and feuds you had mentioned before,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like you want to be friends with with guys, So

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>those rovalies in those feuds, they don't do they spill

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>over to the locker room or sometimes have you guys

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of cohesion together it Yeah, I mean

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it does spill over, but other times, like nowadays,

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it kind of doesn't. Usually can squash your beef and

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and figure it out, but honestly, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you just don't like a person, and you know everyone's

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>not gonna like everyone, and people are gonna say things

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that that hurt. And it's on national television and if

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>someone says something that hurts, then you're like, all right,

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy, you want to go, let's go and we'll see.

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 1>So you just you never know what people are gonna

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>say or do um, But nowadays usually you can you

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>can figure things out. What is a practice entail as

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a w D W W E superstar And the reason

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I asked that is because you know, obviously I haven't

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>seen you do it, but there's some guys and gals

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>who do some things off the ropes. You just don't

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>You just don't wait, You just don't wake up a triple. Yeah. So,

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:06.800
<v Speaker 1>so being a w superstar is completely different than being

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>an NFL star, MLB or NBA. It's a different type

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of training. For instance, my training, I make sure that

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I work out, you know, three or four or five

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>times a week. I make sure I do as much

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:20.919
<v Speaker 1>cardio as I can so I can stay in the ring.

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And literally my cardio is usually like sprints, Like I

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>do sprints, slow sprint, slow sprint, slow sprint, because that's

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>what w W E is. When you're in that ring,

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you're sprinting and then all of a sudden you take

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a fall, and you you sell that fall for a

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit and then you sprint again, then you sprint again.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Some matches are a complete sprint, so you gotta keep

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>your cardio up. A lot of my practice is talking,

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'll cut promos in a ring, in

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>in a mirror all the time, even at this level,

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.959
<v Speaker 1>to keep my uh me feeling you know that I'm

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>on my toes at all times. Honestly, being host of

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Cannonball kind of helps helps me practice for w w E.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think being on this podcast is a is a

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>practice for w w E. When I first started in

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 1>w E, UM, I wanted uh to be the top guy.

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be at a level of of just amazing, no,

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say. And I'll never forget my

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>first time hosting a show. It was for w w A.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a called Diva Search, and I forgot a

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>phone number and I and it was in front of

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a live audience, and I forgot the phone number that

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that people would have to call in to vote. And

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the most important thing that I forgot. And

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no one in my ear, there's no one that

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 1>can tell me anything about that. And I went into

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a cold sweat. I blanked out, And I'll never forget

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>having that feeling and walking back and hearing the crowd

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 1>just go complete silence, and I was like, I'm gonna

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>get fired. I'm gonna get fired. And I never wanted

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to have that feeling ever again. So I asked, w

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>w E, can I do all the radio interviews that

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to do. I will wake up at

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>six in the morning every single morning to do radio

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>interviews so I can practice, you know, just talking and

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>getting points to where I ever feel that cold sweat

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>happened again. I know what to do and how to

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>get out of it and how to get that feeling.

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So you love it, I mean, like, honestly, I love

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>being a like I love I used to love having

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a people booing me, but now you know, we don't

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>have that. Now we have a virtual fans in our thunderdome,

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh and it's it's honestly, it's it's it's pretty great.

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's interesting. It's it's tested me like now,

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the way we're shooting and the way we're filming, like

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>w w E, it's like, man, this is different, you know,

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it's completely uh new kind of talent that you

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>have to develop. And it's you're always changing and evolving.

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>You are my tag team partner. You're getting me ready. Okay,

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.839
<v Speaker 1>let's pick up my outfit. What am I wearing? I mean,

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I wear trunks, but whatever you feel comfortable, and obviously

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable in football jersey football tights there you

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>go like big show, like the one that strap, this

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>goes over and then you got the whole like a

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>little like a little leotard. All you do not want

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 1>to wear a leotard like the Big like the Big Show.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It depends on how you're feeling right now, are you

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>did you did do you have do you have a

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>dad bot? Or do you did you like a or

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 1>do you still have the ripped abs? Now I don't.

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I never really had ripped apps. Then we want to

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>cover a little bit. We want to cover just a

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I don't have ripped apps. I gotta, I gotta.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I got a can or two in the six packs

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>showing right to the stone call. You get your little

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>vest right, you can add vests, but the vest gotta

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>come off at some point. The two little like, Yeah,

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't have I don't have ripped abs.

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I don't have a dad bot. I

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>mean I ain't scared the show. I'm not scared to

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>take my shirt off at the pool. Now, I'm good

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like that. But you know, you get the painting. Know

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that that phone goes. That phone you can hold it

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 1>in for the first ten minutes. My boy on I'm

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at his view from the side and WHOA what

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>trstor is he in? All right? So? Uh so okay,

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>what about what about shoes? What am I wearing Jay's?

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I'm black man, I gotta have styled now,

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't be If you want to wait, I would say,

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>where wouldever you feel most comfortable that you will be

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>able to perform your best in and feel like a

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>w W E superstar. I don't know if you want

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to paint your face. You want to paint your face?

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Paint your face, you know, because I don't want to

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna be running around and wrestling, wrestling and

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>tumbling and jumping for an hour. Jay's ain't really the

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>shoes you want to wear. No, I mean obviously, if

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you watched Jordan, he didn't even like him. Did you

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>see that documentary? He literally goes, I put these on

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and I literally couldn't believe I was. I wore these

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>at one point. Yes, I love that documentary. Yeah. Uh so, okay, shoes, Okay,

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>comfortable shoes. Now what's my name? This is the most

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>important right here? This can get him. I think I

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>think your name is so is so big that you

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>can't really change it. So he Smitty, I'm Smitty s Smith.

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Say you're Smitty Senior Steven what you could you could

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely be Senor Estevan definitely. Yeah. Oh man, that'd be

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a great matchup. That'd be a great matchup. I like that,

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you know we would be based off that would It

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>would be the flon match, because well, what you could

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>do is you could have Raymisterio and Dominic his son

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 1>versus me and you, and whoever wins gets to wear

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>them ask. So the object is to take Gray Masterials

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mask off and put it on you. But here's once

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it's on you, then it's your mask for now on.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It would be a finisher move. I don't know, because

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>if I get hit below the belt, gonna somebody, I'm

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 1>whooping somebody's ass. I don't care, TV care. We take

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this spilling over into the locker room. I mean that's

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>what it would be called the ass whooping. Just be

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hold persona, just now. I love it. I like that.

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. I agree. It's called the

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>DP three And basically the whole premise of this is

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to go beyond who you are as a w W superstar.

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It is to go to just a deeper level. So Smitthie,

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give him the first question. If I

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>could peel away all the onions and get down to

0:48:53.760 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the of the mess, who are you? Who am I?

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I am a dad of two little girls who honestly,

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how much love I had in me

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>until like I always, I always loved my wife. My

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>wife is amazing, She's incredible. She's a hard working mother,

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 1>and she's a hard working woman in general. She does

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>so many things to make me better. But and the

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>love for her is amazing. But the love for my daughters,

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it is something like when I when mom, when Monroe

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was born, it opened up a whole new like portion

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of my heart I didn't even know I had. And

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>then my then I had my other daughter, and then

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that's another portion of my heart that I didn't know

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I had, And it's incredible. Like the other day, I'm

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to teach my daughters how to swim like she's two,

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and she went underwater and kicked her feet and listened

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to everything that I said and did it like she swim.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Now she's not a good swimmer, not a strong swimmer,

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>but she did it. And I've never had a proud

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>popa moment. Then I did that day. So you asked

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>me who am I? Who am I? I'm Mike Mzanin,

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>a father of two and a husband of it. But

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>as the Miss, like, I've done everything and anything I've

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, and I still want more. As the Miss,

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I want it all, I Like my agent always asked me, Mike,

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you know you're hosting your show, you have your own

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>reality show, your w superstar. What else do you want?

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I want it all? What do what does that mean?

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I want movies, I want animation. I want I want

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to own my own production company. I want to be

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>able to executly produce. I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>to elevate other people and to get other people their dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the things that I want to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they're like, all right, let's get started. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of where I'm at with my life. Now. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you think people see you? And how do you

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<v Speaker 1>want people to see you? If you watch Cannonball in

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<v Speaker 1>w W, you see it allowed obnoxious, um, sometimes funny, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just egomaniac. And then if you see miss and Mrs

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<v Speaker 1>you see a dad, you see a guy that um

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<v Speaker 1>you know is just out there doing his best, um

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<v Speaker 1>to to make right for his family. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>my my best qualities are my worst qualities. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just one of those things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived with my entire life. What do you want those

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful little girls to say about their daddy, Michael. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they know. I hope that they say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no matter what, I know, I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes and sometimes I'm not going to be there. But

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<v Speaker 1>Dad tried his hardest. He did his best to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best dad possible. And I hope that I'm able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, educate and grow two beautiful, independent,

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<v Speaker 1>strong minded women, and hopefully I do my best to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Mike's whole life changed after the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the moment Smithy that everything changed for you, man?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a loaded question. Uh, A lot changed. The moment

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<v Speaker 1>for me. The moment that changed for me is when

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<v Speaker 1>I jumped on that airplane a couple of days after

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<v Speaker 1>fourth of July two thousand, No I went off. I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the airplane one way ticket to you University

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<v Speaker 1>of Utah. That's when things changed for me. UM really

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<v Speaker 1>realized that this was something different. Never really experienced anything

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<v Speaker 1>outside of l A. Took the Greyhound when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, Greyhound bus to Las Vegas and we stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at the Fremont Hotel, which is downtown Las Vegas, which

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<v Speaker 1>is now is regentified and it is considered the old

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<v Speaker 1>part of Las Vegas. When you go to new part

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<v Speaker 1>of Las Vegas, Um, it's a lot different. I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I have my brother's a fireman north Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember a couple of years ago we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Vegas and we stayed that we stayed in a

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<v Speaker 1>new part, but we drove down to the old part

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<v Speaker 1>with my brother and we had lunch, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>brought me back to understanding, um, how far I've come

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<v Speaker 1>where I am today. Um. So I realized, just like

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the myths, that there are significant, um small little things

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that happened in your life to have such a huge result.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think really just listening to mis and what

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<v Speaker 1>it really put me back into is just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really I don't know. I guess doing a doing a

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<v Speaker 1>grateful report, Um, what am I grateful for? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just grateful for the things that I've learned, um about

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<v Speaker 1>myself about my family and then also the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I at that times you take for granted. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>take for granted the success, but you also, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>more anything, you take the failures for granted. Right in

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<v Speaker 1>hearing on the meds talking about how he grew up

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<v Speaker 1>and what he went through in Ohio and realizing just

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<v Speaker 1>going on the real world and understanding all the different people,

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<v Speaker 1>he really didn't know the world. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>any of us really know the world until we get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and are and we are exposed to it

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<v Speaker 1>and it is right dead sinner, right in front of

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<v Speaker 1>our face. We start to realize how big the world

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