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Speaker 1: Good do it, Good do it. They's getting down to
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Speaker 1: all right, let's go good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Speaker 1: When us what is that afternoon? That is good morning?
Speaker 1: All right us, that's what you're rolling with. That's what
Speaker 1: I said. So just I'm just trying to test your
Speaker 1: gangster when it comes to your to your Espanol. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have some fun with this one.
Speaker 1: So we got our we talked about doing this segment,
Speaker 1: but we've got our inaugural Big Dummy Award that back
Speaker 1: that Fred Sanford right there, The Big Dummy Award dropped again.
Speaker 1: So we wants a month. We're gonna try to collect
Speaker 1: enough and pick and see which one gets this one
Speaker 1: and and and listen, I hate to what they said,
Speaker 1: kicking man while he's down. But I'm I'm jumping off
Speaker 1: the top rope. Did the Eddie Garri ro leg drop,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So just to give some contact Seahawks. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: former rookie there we go Farmer Seattle see Hawk Chima
Speaker 1: Sivering and I hope I'm pronouncing that don't matter tried
Speaker 1: to sneak in a female visitor into their team hotel
Speaker 1: during this whole COVID pandemic where everything is locked down.
Speaker 1: He had a visitor and decided to sir, they it
Speaker 1: was had to be tag teams. But they decided somewhere
Speaker 1: along this this route that they we're going to dress
Speaker 1: her up as a Seahawks player to get her in
Speaker 1: the building. So here's my question, give me, give me
Speaker 1: your take on this NFL VET. I would love to
Speaker 1: be in the room when these two dummies, you big dummy,
Speaker 1: decided on how they were mastermind. Yeah, what was the
Speaker 1: plane break in? Yeah? Right? Like did he meet her
Speaker 1: like at the at the insurance Probably they're probably start
Speaker 1: from the top of what you ain't happen. They're in
Speaker 1: a relationship. Maybe No, I'm just gonna go I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get him benefit out there in a relationship that's his
Speaker 1: girl and training camp whatever maybe, and he's in there like, look,
Speaker 1: I want to see my boot I miss her, and
Speaker 1: they FaceTime and he says, I got it, I got
Speaker 1: the idea. I got a great idea. And her reply
Speaker 1: isn't no, babe, I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: She tells him, Yeah, I like that one. So this
Speaker 1: is where I can already poke holes in the stories
Speaker 1: because I don't think a wife or girlfriend's gonna go
Speaker 1: along with this one. You don't think so? Um have you?
Speaker 1: Have you been in the same place as I bear this?
Speaker 1: This quarantine has really shown there something. There's some folks
Speaker 1: that when they get on the elevator and their body
Speaker 1: in their minds our floors. It's a few are missing.
Speaker 1: So some don't go all the way to the topics,
Speaker 1: which just hell, some of my under construction indefinitely mean
Speaker 1: they just boarded up. And and here's the here's the part.
Speaker 1: You know you're in trouble when you got a floor thirteen.
Speaker 1: You're already in trouble. The elevators go to Florida, so
Speaker 1: they faced time. They faced time, and they say this
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress you up
Speaker 1: as a player. So when you come in there, don't
Speaker 1: make eye contact and don't talk to nobody. Nobody. Throw
Speaker 1: this a just throw this all. So I want to
Speaker 1: know did she have ye what was the component like?
Speaker 1: What did he give her hoodie? Or did he give
Speaker 1: her like his work. I'm trying to sweatpants because if
Speaker 1: she got on shorts, then they made that may tell
Speaker 1: the whole possibly right, because we don't know. Now, I've
Speaker 1: I've I've laid with some guys who do not look
Speaker 1: like NFL football players. Hell I don't at times. I'm
Speaker 1: five nine three, four hundred nineties something d ninety seven pounds.
Speaker 1: Why receiver? You line me up next to Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: you say, who's the wide receiver? That the short guy
Speaker 1: is not that so I and that's why I say,
Speaker 1: you know, it depends on what that individual looks like
Speaker 1: when you put it in the category of examining that
Speaker 1: individual as a superior athlete. Not all superior athletes look superior.
Speaker 1: That's just the talent, that's the gift of God. That's
Speaker 1: why you have God given abilities. But I just am
Speaker 1: completely confused on why they thought that they were going
Speaker 1: to be able to fool the team and just walk
Speaker 1: up in there like she's a player, that we who's
Speaker 1: the new person? Because you also got to think that
Speaker 1: there could have been some other things. You could if
Speaker 1: you was going to go to dress up, bro, that
Speaker 1: could have been some others. They were in the hotel,
Speaker 1: so she could have been she could be have been
Speaker 1: room service, these security, no, these brain surgeons. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be another player? Yeah, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1: Don't hunt your Dave and clowney stuff. Stuff. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: notice that is gone, is gone. And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get up, let me get these sweats. Baby.
Speaker 1: What sides that? Well, I'm a small your medium today.
Speaker 1: I don't think David was no, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: he just grabbed some stuff, walked in there and then
Speaker 1: they called it and not just you know, and then
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. I'm I'm the individual. Let's be honest. Is
Speaker 1: she a person who has maybe done some things that
Speaker 1: they've done before, which and I mean just like you know,
Speaker 1: like you know how you got some people where, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, you wouldn't necessarily commit a crime with them, right,
Speaker 1: because you know you've got some folks like they will
Speaker 1: tell on themselves, right, They're getting nervous, get anty, and
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like hurt. I wish I could like be
Speaker 1: in her mind, a psyche like her psyche. You don't
Speaker 1: talk to anybody? Do they know? I'm running? I'm runn
Speaker 1: through the progressions? And they noticed that I'm really not
Speaker 1: a player? What do I work? Does this make me?
Speaker 1: How about this? And I'm being a guy and being
Speaker 1: a husband? Does this swett? Who make me look fat? Right?
Speaker 1: It needs to make you like you're on the roster.
Speaker 1: It's just a whole bunch of stuff. And of course
Speaker 1: the end of the story is they got caught. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out when she walked in, Like
Speaker 1: was it a side door? Did she walk in the
Speaker 1: front entrance of the lobby like here you know? Or
Speaker 1: was it the sneak in like you know everyone everyone's
Speaker 1: been a teenage? Do you know you're getting If I
Speaker 1: just close my eyes, they won't notice me, right? Or
Speaker 1: did she walk into like did they FaceTime and go
Speaker 1: over the walk you know, walk like a dude, like no,
Speaker 1: walk like a corner and put a little pull, a
Speaker 1: little pip of your step, and you know it's like
Speaker 1: we try to imitate guys, right or when you try
Speaker 1: to imitate somebody, you're just kind of like who walks
Speaker 1: like that? Right? Are you watching? Yeah? Yes, you try
Speaker 1: to discus Oh yeah yeah yeah, uh huh. But regardless,
Speaker 1: this did not work and his ass got fired. Chema
Speaker 1: lost his job, so he didn't didn't even get started.
Speaker 1: Good even. But I guess seriously though, as a vet,
Speaker 1: something like this happens all the time. Dumb dumbs all
Speaker 1: the time. Oh no, you it's just stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is about us athletes, but we really
Speaker 1: believe don't remember that the athletes, bro, no, no what
Speaker 1: I'm saying this athletes, we really believe we could do anything.
Speaker 1: Though I'm talked about that sometimes we people have done
Speaker 1: things like this before. You everyone that started to sneak
Speaker 1: someone in the house and sneak out of the house,
Speaker 1: you snuck into like people have done that you know about.
Speaker 1: Just so don't just don't just limit that the athletes. Brother,
Speaker 1: yeah there's not but this athlete is one big you
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Speaker 1: who's our guest for today? Coming up on the Cut
Speaker 1: to It podcast, We've got The Miss, a former Real
Speaker 1: World star who's turned w W superstar. He's a former
Speaker 1: champ who now host USA's Cannonball and Miss and Mrs.
Speaker 1: Alongside his wife. The Miss. Well, this segment we got
Speaker 1: coming up, Miss is called get Iced Up. It's our
Speaker 1: version of an icebreaker. The random questions that we formulated.
Speaker 1: Smithy may and may not have a follow up. It
Speaker 1: may be something to where we get down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Who knows, but this is our segment of called Getting
Speaker 1: iced Up. So Smithy, go ahead and give him the
Speaker 1: first one. Alright, what is your favorite scent? Favorite scent? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a car scent. My wife whenever she puts on
Speaker 1: this perfume, I don't even know what the perfume is,
Speaker 1: to be honest, but when she puts it on and
Speaker 1: she walks by me, my my, literally, my nose just
Speaker 1: follows the whole thing. It's like it's like literally, I'm
Speaker 1: like floating in the air just right behind her. What
Speaker 1: if that was old spice? What would you do? Right? Now.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Old Spice is paying me a
Speaker 1: lot money, then I'll guess what it's Old Spice, bar
Speaker 1: glow you know whatever that whatever that's soap is. If
Speaker 1: you can learn a new skill, what would it be.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to play guitar, Like I'm even trying
Speaker 1: right now. Like I have a buddy that plays guitar,
Speaker 1: and he like teaches me like through like face time
Speaker 1: all the time, and I just can't get it. I
Speaker 1: can't pick it up. I can't pick up a musical instrument.
Speaker 1: I hope I have too baby girls, and uh, once
Speaker 1: they're old enough, I want to teach them how. It's
Speaker 1: not me, but have someone teach them how to play instruments,
Speaker 1: because it's something I've always wanted to do. I think
Speaker 1: when you're an entertainer, like being a rock star is
Speaker 1: like always on that list of things that you've always
Speaker 1: wanted to do. But I don't have a good voice.
Speaker 1: I can't play an instrument, but I can entertain you,
Speaker 1: So probably why I'm a w W superstar. Yeah. Your
Speaker 1: top three email subscriptions Email subscriptions. Honestly, I try not
Speaker 1: to subscribe to anything because I don't want emails at all. Like,
Speaker 1: I get so many emails a day that are just
Speaker 1: garbage emails that honestly zero. I don't want any subscriptions whatsoever.
Speaker 1: There's none you look forward to at all. No, No,
Speaker 1: I honestly I get I get like when I wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning, I have thirty emails and I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those people that like the red dots
Speaker 1: on my phone, like I have to get rid of
Speaker 1: them so I can go through forty eraces, which takes
Speaker 1: me about you know, five minutes of going through things.
Speaker 1: And so no, I don't want an email from anyone
Speaker 1: or anything. I don't even like emails. I'd really have
Speaker 1: a text message. All right, Well you would hate my
Speaker 1: email because I got emails over. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I could not do My wife has the same thing.
Speaker 1: Every time I see your phone, it drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: Well it works fun for me. So well I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what emails subscription you need to get because I
Speaker 1: do it one a hundred flowers. So when I saying,
Speaker 1: you know, occasions, I'll get off. So it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I like those, like I'll leave on a Wednesday Thursday morning,
Speaker 1: she gets up, there's a there's a bouquet of roses
Speaker 1: for Debonair Smithie. Yes, I'm I might. I might do
Speaker 1: that tonight. I think I might just have to do
Speaker 1: that this week and get some get some brown dosing points,
Speaker 1: you come back. I uh, last one. What do you
Speaker 1: think your best quality is? Uh? Sometimes I think my
Speaker 1: best qualities are my worst qualities. It depends on who
Speaker 1: you're talking to. UM, I think I'm very outspoken, I'm loud,
Speaker 1: I'm obnoxious, and for some that's fun, that's entertaining. Other
Speaker 1: times it's a bit much, and I know him a
Speaker 1: bit much and so uh. And sometimes I literally my
Speaker 1: mouth just goes and I'm like, oh man, did I
Speaker 1: really just say that. I can't believe I did it.
Speaker 1: And some people are like, that's the most genius thing
Speaker 1: you've ever said. Other people are like, that's the stupidest
Speaker 1: thing you've ever said. So you never know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with me, you know. Okay, Well, let's get down
Speaker 1: to how about you. What's what's your best quality? My
Speaker 1: best quad? Let's see, I have so many I don't
Speaker 1: know where to go. Uh. My my gift and my
Speaker 1: curse is um, I think about things so simple but
Speaker 1: yet so complicated and I go down a rabbit hole
Speaker 1: that where it's like my wife is like, Babe, it's
Speaker 1: not that serious. Where are you from and what do
Speaker 1: you call home. I'm originally from parm Ohio. It's a
Speaker 1: suburb outside of Cleveland. Obviously. The reason I'm a Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns fan is because I've lived there in my entire life.
Speaker 1: I moved to Los Angeles when I was about one,
Speaker 1: and uh, I literally lived out here ever since. Um
Speaker 1: So now I live in Los Angeles. I love the
Speaker 1: seventy and sonny every day. Uh there's no humidity and
Speaker 1: there's you know, sometimes a little hot from just a heat.
Speaker 1: But I actually went to Austin for one year because
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to pay state taxes anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to Texas where you don't have state
Speaker 1: taxes that eleven percent will get you. So I moved
Speaker 1: to uh, Texas for one year, and I literally said, Yep,
Speaker 1: Texas is not for me. My wife said the same thing.
Speaker 1: We both literally lived there. We moved like literally we
Speaker 1: had a baby and then drove all the way in
Speaker 1: a in like a like we kind of had like
Speaker 1: this RV like this big bus that we just drove
Speaker 1: in and thought it'd be fun little trip. We did it,
Speaker 1: and a year later we were doing the same exact
Speaker 1: thing back to l A. Because we were just like,
Speaker 1: look we are l A people. Uh threw the eleven percent.
Speaker 1: I'll pay the eleven percent state tax just to be there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, family version of rule grooves, Yeah, a hundred percent,
Speaker 1: like literally, And it was like that because I had me,
Speaker 1: my wife, my two dogs, my two cats, my daughter
Speaker 1: who was three weeks old, and then my my mother
Speaker 1: in law. We're all in this bus and it was
Speaker 1: my cat was NonStop me owing the entire time. Uh,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't let you even come near him, so we
Speaker 1: had to shove him like in a bathroom, so we
Speaker 1: didn't uh you know, like sick everyone. My two dogs,
Speaker 1: which I have a Doberman and a mint in. My
Speaker 1: Doberman didn't even fit in the place. He She had
Speaker 1: gas the entire time, which stunk up the entire bus.
Speaker 1: We forgot my mother in law at one stop because
Speaker 1: she said, um, she said she was the bathroom. Well
Speaker 1: all right, all right, say you're at a truck stop,
Speaker 1: right and you're you're getting gas. Your mother in law
Speaker 1: my convenience. She goes, I'm going to the restroom. So
Speaker 1: we go, okay, fine, worth thinking she went to the
Speaker 1: restroom in the bus. She didn't. She went to the restroom,
Speaker 1: And why would you go to the truck stop when
Speaker 1: you have you have you have a good bathroom at
Speaker 1: the bus. And so we started driving elson we get
Speaker 1: a phone called you son of a mother, blah blah
Speaker 1: blah with her French accent. So yeah, we forgot her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we had to drive back. So it was it
Speaker 1: was definitely a nice little road rules episode if you want. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: how did your upbringing impact your view on the world today? Wow?
Speaker 1: My upbringing? Well, where I'm from in Parme, Ohio, you
Speaker 1: go to high school, After high school, go to college.
Speaker 1: At college, go back to Parma, Ohio. You get a job,
Speaker 1: you get a family, and that's exactly what you do
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. When I got onto
Speaker 1: a show called The Real World, Back to New York, uh,
Speaker 1: it basically put me in like the melting pot that is,
Speaker 1: you know, New York. It opened my eyes up to
Speaker 1: so many different things, and once I got there, I
Speaker 1: kind of realized that I could do anything. I wanted
Speaker 1: with my life. So what was my dream? What did
Speaker 1: I always want to do? And I always want to
Speaker 1: be a w superstar. The problem is where you know,
Speaker 1: back then you'd have to be six seven three pounds
Speaker 1: of pure solid muscle, and I was not that. But
Speaker 1: when I was in the real world, like I was
Speaker 1: like everyone said I couldn't make that show, and I did.
Speaker 1: So when you when you finally see a goal, like
Speaker 1: maybe maybe for you, and I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is your story, but maybe for you it might have been.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to play football in college, and
Speaker 1: then you make it into college and you play football
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, I'm I'm playing football
Speaker 1: in college. Maybe I can do this the NFL. And
Speaker 1: then literally you hone in and you drive yourself to
Speaker 1: make it to the NFL. Then when you make it
Speaker 1: to the NFL, you go, all right, I don't just
Speaker 1: want to be a wide receiver. I want to be
Speaker 1: one of the the most premier wide receivers out there.
Speaker 1: And then when you do that, you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: I want a Hall of Fame career. All right, maybe
Speaker 1: now I want a Super Bowl. So you keep your goals,
Speaker 1: keep excelling. So one again. On the real world, my
Speaker 1: goal excelled to be a W superstar. When I became
Speaker 1: a W superstar, I wanted to be the biggest WW superstar.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be, you know, main event WrestleMania, b
Speaker 1: w W E Champion, win all the titles. And then
Speaker 1: once I've done that, now I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure that I have a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to being a Universal Champion
Speaker 1: or w W Champion. I want to get back to
Speaker 1: being main event of WrestleMania, you know. And I also
Speaker 1: want to do other things and not not only do
Speaker 1: I have my own reality show. Now I started on
Speaker 1: the real world, I was just a cast member. Now
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer. And I also start in my
Speaker 1: own show that gets incredible ratings, Miss and Mrs on
Speaker 1: the USA Network as well, and so and now also
Speaker 1: I'm developing a couple other shows for other people. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of except exceeded my dreams and
Speaker 1: expectations and my goals, and I keep on going and
Speaker 1: doing it because that's just where my mindset is now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that when I was in Parmer, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Real world changed at all. If I wouldn't have gotten
Speaker 1: the real world, I would have been at home flipping burgers.
Speaker 1: I would have dropped out of college because I wasn't
Speaker 1: very good at it. Um, you know, I was good
Speaker 1: at school, but honestly, I just enjoyed like school, school,
Speaker 1: college school more than anything else. And I probably have
Speaker 1: dropped out and just went back and worked for my
Speaker 1: dad at a local Mr Hero flipping burgers. Was that
Speaker 1: correct in your assessment of like where you were, Like
Speaker 1: would you say that's how kind of your goals kind
Speaker 1: of happened or did you always have that goal like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a NFL star, no doubt my mind.
Speaker 1: That's a really good question for me was Um, my
Speaker 1: dad plays semi pro football. I always wanted to play football.
Speaker 1: That's all I knew. That's all I wanted. That was
Speaker 1: on my old desire. College was not on that road
Speaker 1: trip of success. But for me, I guess what is
Speaker 1: a little bit different is once I got to the
Speaker 1: league and I realized what it was, I started to
Speaker 1: have to equip myself around how to were just to
Speaker 1: becoming a football player. How do I master my craft?
Speaker 1: How do I become one of the best. But then
Speaker 1: I started to realize, well, what is one of the best,
Speaker 1: And so I was on the team we were my
Speaker 1: first year, we were won of fifteen, but I I
Speaker 1: played with some I was on the team with some
Speaker 1: guys that I I had admired, but I was also
Speaker 1: on the team where I wanted to be better than them.
Speaker 1: So it was it was very complex because I wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily looking down on them, but growing up as a
Speaker 1: fan like you are of of Hawk Hogan, Rady, you know,
Speaker 1: Macho Man, Randy Savage, the Honkey talk Man, Brutus de Barber, Beefcake,
Speaker 1: all these guys. Those were the guys Jerry Rice right,
Speaker 1: John Taylor, those guys I looked up to because I
Speaker 1: grew up in Los Angeles and I was a huge
Speaker 1: forty Niners fan, and Tim Brown where the team I
Speaker 1: was on, I didn't believe any of those guys were
Speaker 1: in that category. So if I didn't believe kne of
Speaker 1: those guys in that category, I kind of saw them
Speaker 1: I once. I didn't see him as equals or I
Speaker 1: didn't look up to him. I just saw almost like, well,
Speaker 1: my guys that I want to emulate aren't on this team, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be one of the one of
Speaker 1: the teammates. Who's who who's like a brother of mine,
Speaker 1: is a good friend? Was muss and Muhammed. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be better than Moose And so did you have
Speaker 1: did you have um a person that that you would
Speaker 1: that would teach you or guide you or go, Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to be Jerry Rice, you want to be
Speaker 1: you know, like these talents, these are what these guys
Speaker 1: did to do that. Did you have anyone like that? No?
Speaker 1: So that another great question. I looked at the guys
Speaker 1: as my teammates. I just looked at him as guys,
Speaker 1: like like A great example of that is at the
Speaker 1: time when I was drafting two thousand one, which was
Speaker 1: around the same time that you were in a world
Speaker 1: world mhm, I was looking at Moose and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to be on the record books, and Moose
Speaker 1: at that time was the record books. That my goal
Speaker 1: was two be the best Carolina Panther wire receiver in
Speaker 1: in their history. That was your goal, then that was
Speaker 1: my goal in my mind. I said, I want to
Speaker 1: erase moose in from the record books soutique. So to
Speaker 1: have that mentality to erase somebody for the record books.
Speaker 1: Technically you can't be friends with them. And I looked
Speaker 1: at Moose, and I believe Moose looked at me. At
Speaker 1: one point in our careers we were enemies on the
Speaker 1: same team. So when he make a one hand to catch, well,
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, well, I'm gonna make four
Speaker 1: one hand to catch us. If he's gonna make a
Speaker 1: hunter yard game, man, I'm an average a hunter yards
Speaker 1: and elevate your It was making me but but it
Speaker 1: isn't elevating it in the way you think it was
Speaker 1: an elevating it to where I mean, this is my podcast.
Speaker 1: I man, I wanted to be I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the standard like I didn't want but I wanted to
Speaker 1: relate it back to even with with with miss and
Speaker 1: you like, it's having a goal, then I achieve that goal.
Speaker 1: Now is I have to recalibrate it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be the standard I wanted When you
Speaker 1: talked about the Carolina Panthers, when you talked about w
Speaker 1: w E, I didn't want them to talk about well,
Speaker 1: this guy that guy, I'm the damn guy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm the same exact way like whenever I see a
Speaker 1: poster that I am not front and center, whether I'm
Speaker 1: on the poster or not, if I'm not front and center,
Speaker 1: it infuriates me, and it makes me want to work
Speaker 1: harder and figure out a way how I can be
Speaker 1: the focal point of not only that poster, but the show,
Speaker 1: the entire show SmackDown on every Friday. If I'm not
Speaker 1: the focal point of that show, you better believe I'm
Speaker 1: working towards to becoming that thing. But the thing I'm
Speaker 1: different than you is I look at everyone as my friends,
Speaker 1: like how come you can't uh, you couldn't look at
Speaker 1: as moose as like Jarvis and O'Dell look at each other.
Speaker 1: They elevate each other. They literally are saying, Hey, I
Speaker 1: want to make you better. You want to make me better.
Speaker 1: We're going to be better together. Well one they grew
Speaker 1: up together. They want to Now you you're living in
Speaker 1: l A. You know the listeners. We don't wanna We
Speaker 1: don't want you to tell exactly your your address location.
Speaker 1: Where are you in l A? Because I'm from I'm
Speaker 1: in the suburbs. I used to live in the in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but now I live in the suburbs like I live
Speaker 1: past Calabasas, like I'm in a thousand Oaks area. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you used to live in the Hollywood area,
Speaker 1: I lived off A hundred and six and Avalon. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a mile from Welcome to Compton. Okay. You don't
Speaker 1: have friends. You either with me? Are you against me?
Speaker 1: Or you against me? But we can't be on the
Speaker 1: in the same wagon like we we The truck does
Speaker 1: not come with two staring wheels. It only comes to
Speaker 1: a one stam wheel. And honestly, I've been driving, I've
Speaker 1: got a family. I probably sat in my back seat twice.
Speaker 1: I don't don't share, I don't I'm not sitting in
Speaker 1: the back. I don't care what the back seat or
Speaker 1: how much room you got back there, because I'm only
Speaker 1: sitting in the front and I need to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I looked at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's just a mentality that I grew up with.
Speaker 1: Did you go to school in the Content area as
Speaker 1: well to school in l A. I mean, okay, a
Speaker 1: few schools, uh, because I got in trouble a few times.
Speaker 1: But I went to a few school all right, Um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you how you stayed out of
Speaker 1: the trouble and how you how you geared yourself to
Speaker 1: It was a football the reason that that that geared
Speaker 1: you away from everything that that's out there or well, well,
Speaker 1: if my mom was on here, she would say she's
Speaker 1: still working through that in process. Uh, I mean sports
Speaker 1: was that. Um, there was a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: It was unique because back in the day, man, you
Speaker 1: could get in trouble if you wanted to, no matter
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Like I mean, dudes got beat up
Speaker 1: and shot or it was faced at the escaping ring, right,
Speaker 1: So there was always stuff right foolishly. I remember we
Speaker 1: stole quarters out of the pact miss pac Man machine.
Speaker 1: And I'm not the average five nine guy, so my
Speaker 1: arms are pretty long, and so I was the short
Speaker 1: guy that they I was standing up and it was
Speaker 1: a little and my hands are so big that I
Speaker 1: was actually able to grab a whole bunch of quarters.
Speaker 1: And then the manager of the laundry, Matt Sauce, and
Speaker 1: we all took off running and some kids got caught.
Speaker 1: I didn't get caught, and I remember his kid named
Speaker 1: Random Random. I ran everybody. I ran home. That's what
Speaker 1: And I remember Junior got caught and he was like, hey, Steve,
Speaker 1: are you good? And I looked at you know, we
Speaker 1: had the screen porch, you know, the spray play in it,
Speaker 1: so you can't know. You don't know if that's if
Speaker 1: you're looking or anything. Ain't trying to get me come
Speaker 1: out there. Oh boy was hiding in his truck waiting
Speaker 1: for me to come out because Julia had negotiated with him.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the kid that stole who has and
Speaker 1: I'll call him man, Julior. Junior got his asshole. I
Speaker 1: was gonna put up he got, Okay, dooke on them.
Speaker 1: We beat Junior down. So but the old old school,
Speaker 1: you know, we have to take a break and the
Speaker 1: morning anything, we gotta pay some bills. I I talked
Speaker 1: to some folks and then some poland they that I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna like this question. And but man,
Speaker 1: everybody freaking wants to know, like take us through this process.
Speaker 1: Because I grew up watching a real world. I was
Speaker 1: I was looking at that stuff and I remember you,
Speaker 1: and I remember your great relationship with a friend and
Speaker 1: we will talk about but I remember the miss and
Speaker 1: that persona you were building even on that how instrumental
Speaker 1: was going on a real world for you. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be where I am today if it wasn't for the
Speaker 1: Real World. If John Murray and Mary Osbunim didn't pick
Speaker 1: me to be on the show as a cast member,
Speaker 1: I would not be where I am today. It changed
Speaker 1: my mind frame. Like do you ever have moments in
Speaker 1: your life that it just changes the way you think.
Speaker 1: That's what Real World did for me. And some people
Speaker 1: have that happened in middle school, high school. Some people
Speaker 1: don't have it and happen until in mid middle life,
Speaker 1: you know, but there's some there's some times in your
Speaker 1: life there are moments where you can look at and
Speaker 1: you can go this changed everything. And that's what Real
Speaker 1: World did for me. And it not only changed that,
Speaker 1: but it changed the way I thought about things, like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was I was in my own
Speaker 1: little Bubbalos, in my own little Parma, Ohio, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, a little spot and going onto the real world,
Speaker 1: meeting the six people from all different walks of life,
Speaker 1: getting educated about these different people and where they're from,
Speaker 1: how they grew up. It made it gave me an
Speaker 1: interest on everyone and everything and so that allowed me
Speaker 1: to literally go, I don't want to live in Parma anymore.
Speaker 1: I want something bigger. I want something And I love Parma,
Speaker 1: I love the city. I love Cleveland, but I wanted
Speaker 1: something bigger and better. And I that's why it was
Speaker 1: either New York or l A is where I was
Speaker 1: gonna move and uh l A has se and sunny
Speaker 1: every day, So I'm gonna take the uh the better weather.
Speaker 1: And so I moved out there and set out for
Speaker 1: a dream. You want it better? It set you up?
Speaker 1: What was other than the way you laid it out
Speaker 1: so clearly for us talking about your hometown. You know,
Speaker 1: you got you go to college, you get a degree,
Speaker 1: you could come back, you come back to Ohio, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't a cookie cutter life, which I agree and
Speaker 1: I and I and I understand. But what was what
Speaker 1: why was getting on the real world? Like take us
Speaker 1: through that, Like, why was that your only route to
Speaker 1: get out of Ohio? Because you were you were in
Speaker 1: college at the time. It wasn't the only route. It
Speaker 1: was just the route that I like. So, for instance,
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. So I was at college,
Speaker 1: I was Miamive, Ohio is a Theta Kai. There was
Speaker 1: a fraternity and I'm watching the rail World New Orleans
Speaker 1: and it's a commercial. Comes on, do you want to
Speaker 1: try out for the railroad? In my head, I said yes,
Speaker 1: Well here's how, and so I said in, I sent
Speaker 1: in this this video I'll never forget. I took my
Speaker 1: VHS cam quarter and here's how we edited it. By
Speaker 1: the way I put it, I attached these uh, these
Speaker 1: these wires to my my VHS uh tape. You play
Speaker 1: and then you press record, and that's how you edit.
Speaker 1: That's how editing was last time. There was no computers.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding me? Like now they
Speaker 1: take a bunch of takes. I'm like putting this thing
Speaker 1: out over my shoulder and then I put it on
Speaker 1: a tripod and I talked to it. And then so
Speaker 1: I sent this video and by the way I put
Speaker 1: it in like this Manila envelope with all these pictures
Speaker 1: of me, you know, on things I did, this will
Speaker 1: stand out in the crowd, right, And it obviously did
Speaker 1: because then like I got a fifty page application, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty pages exactly right. So I I they asked everything, Well,
Speaker 1: your parents are like where are you from? YadA, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 1: all the right now, yeah, a little bit almost so.
Speaker 1: Then so then after that you have this, uh you
Speaker 1: have this like phone interview, but the phone interview, they said,
Speaker 1: put your cam quarter up um to where we can
Speaker 1: see you talking, and then we will ask you the questions.
Speaker 1: What be on speaker phone with us, and then we
Speaker 1: will and talk to the camera like you're talking on
Speaker 1: the real world and when you're asking answering the questions.
Speaker 1: So literally I did two of those interviews. Then I
Speaker 1: did an in person interview in Detroit. Had to drive
Speaker 1: up to Detroit on my own money, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I'm a college kid. I don't have any money.
Speaker 1: So literally I'm like struggling for gas money to get
Speaker 1: up there, and drove up there, did it. And I
Speaker 1: remember this this interview, and I was always trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how people would cry on the real world,
Speaker 1: like you know, like you ever see people like in
Speaker 1: interviews crying, And I'm like, dude, you're on the real world,
Speaker 1: You're in this multimillion dollar place you live in the life.
Speaker 1: How can you cry? I don't get it. And once
Speaker 1: I was done with this interview, like I remember the question,
Speaker 1: the question like there was a question, and these are
Speaker 1: the questions that they would ask. And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is how they get people cry. Now I didn't cry,
Speaker 1: but this is how they get people to cry. They're like,
Speaker 1: all right, Sam an onion and you're an onion. And
Speaker 1: we peel away the fract guy. We peel away all
Speaker 1: your friends, peel away, all your your family, peel away
Speaker 1: the divorce your parents had, peel away, this peel away
Speaker 1: that what's at the core of Mike Nazanin. And I'll
Speaker 1: never forget my answer because honestly I could. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even tell you. I was like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: really don't know. I don't I wish I could tell
Speaker 1: you like a cool answer like oh yeah, this, but
Speaker 1: if you peel away everything about me, then there nothing's left.
Speaker 1: And uh, I remember um going to that same casting
Speaker 1: director once I was on the show and after we've
Speaker 1: done filming, and I go, why did you choose me?
Speaker 1: And she goes, it was that question, because I asked
Speaker 1: that question to everyone, and yours was the most real
Speaker 1: and it was the most heartfelt and you could tell
Speaker 1: it hit a nerve, but you but you allowed me
Speaker 1: to see that nerve and I like that. And then
Speaker 1: I asked the guy, the executive producer, UM, why he
Speaker 1: chose me? And he goes, I didn't. I thought you
Speaker 1: were a buckethead. And I went, what and he goes, John,
Speaker 1: John Murray and Mary Elie wanted you on the show.
Speaker 1: But to be completely honest with you, I am so
Speaker 1: glad that you were on the show because you were
Speaker 1: so open, so honest, and you just wanted to learn.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what you did. And you you allowed
Speaker 1: the process of the real world and you allowed us
Speaker 1: into your life. And that's what I said. I said,
Speaker 1: if I'm going on the real world, I'm giving you
Speaker 1: all of me everything. I'm not gonna like some people
Speaker 1: you'll hear go you know, aggravated about how they were
Speaker 1: edited or how they were portrayed, and those people like
Speaker 1: and I've been on shows where people I see that
Speaker 1: they edit themselves. They they they are a completely different
Speaker 1: person that they are camera, that they are that they
Speaker 1: are off of the camera, and so when they look
Speaker 1: at themselves on camera, they go, that's not me. And
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm going, yeah, that was I saw you.
Speaker 1: That's exactly who you were. And so some people get
Speaker 1: mad about editing, but I was like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be me and just gonna allow it to happen. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did because the process was a
Speaker 1: learning experience all the way from doing the real world
Speaker 1: to doing the challenges as well. It taught a lot
Speaker 1: about myself, a lot about hard work, dedication, and you
Speaker 1: know is people look at it and go, oh, it's
Speaker 1: so easy to be on the challenge of the challenges.
Speaker 1: I look at as a sport, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're going for a lot of money and you have
Speaker 1: chances to get eliminated from these things, and you know,
Speaker 1: some of them, some of the people, this is what
Speaker 1: they do for a living, you know, so and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of money, but it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of money because if this is your life, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. You said, they edit all of that,
Speaker 1: you know, edit they're filming you, guys, twenty four hours
Speaker 1: for five months, for five months. What was what was that?
Speaker 1: Did that entail? Did you? You know? Like, because even I,
Speaker 1: you know, I do TV and there are times when
Speaker 1: we're in a studio they tell you, uh, in between breaks,
Speaker 1: bro kill you Mike if you have to go use
Speaker 1: a bathroom because the control room can hear everything can
Speaker 1: be a hot Mike. Everything is on. They have everything.
Speaker 1: They literally like there is a storage room in Bunimury
Speaker 1: that has everything. And I'm talking like like they film
Speaker 1: everything there with there's people with you seven so like
Speaker 1: say we all go to bed, they still have cameras
Speaker 1: on you while you're sleeping, and then when you wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning, there's a camera in your face. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're in a fight and you don't
Speaker 1: want sometimes you don't want to, you know, do something
Speaker 1: in front of a camera. You have to. It's that's
Speaker 1: what you signed up for. That is the real world.
Speaker 1: And the real world I always say, is the closest
Speaker 1: thing to real life. Um. You know, everything else now
Speaker 1: you can look at and you go, oh, that's scrap dad,
Speaker 1: that's this, that's that. Um. I always looked at the
Speaker 1: real world as just the closest you can get to
Speaker 1: real life. And obviously editing music, um, you know, in
Speaker 1: order to to be entertaining, Like think about your life
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. It's not all funny games.
Speaker 1: Like you see highlights of a person's life. If you
Speaker 1: if you saw in my life, like literally, it's like
Speaker 1: it's not entertaining to wake up every morning at six
Speaker 1: thirty and see me ahold of baby and then change
Speaker 1: the baby every day the same thing. It's gonna be boring.
Speaker 1: You want to be entertained, and that's exactly what the
Speaker 1: real world does. It gives you that reality aspect of it.
Speaker 1: But it's entertaining because you see the highlights of what
Speaker 1: is going on in a person's life. I think it's
Speaker 1: about that time. Just take a little breather. Good, good, good,
Speaker 1: let's talk. So take us into the locker room of
Speaker 1: being a w W E superstarre fact. When I was
Speaker 1: first starting in w W I kicked out of the
Speaker 1: locker room because, uh, there was huge amount of respect
Speaker 1: when you So for instance, when you walk into the
Speaker 1: locker room, you shake everyone's hand. That is a standard
Speaker 1: thing that you know, was you know ingrained in you
Speaker 1: as a ww superstar. You shake everyone's hand, and all
Speaker 1: the veterans there, you thank them for you know, what
Speaker 1: they've done for the business. And it's literally like every day,
Speaker 1: like so every day you walk into the locker room
Speaker 1: and you shake everyone's hand. This was fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of teetered off um now, and
Speaker 1: I think the locker room is is better for it.
Speaker 1: There are things that I miss about the old locker room, UM,
Speaker 1: but I like the fact that everyone walks in with
Speaker 1: a smile on their face and everyone is trying to
Speaker 1: make everyone else better. Um. You know, back then, I
Speaker 1: felt like it was more competitive, you know how you
Speaker 1: were saying, like with Moose, like you were like, I
Speaker 1: want to be better than this guy, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be better than this guy. We weren't friends, you know.
Speaker 1: I felt that that kind of competitiveness you know back then,
Speaker 1: like where you know, people would maybe tell you the
Speaker 1: wrong information so you wouldn't get better than them. And
Speaker 1: then there were others that that took you under their
Speaker 1: wing and literally guided you. Guys like you know, Shawn
Speaker 1: Michaels took me under their wing and you know, literally
Speaker 1: gave me advice that I still used to this day.
Speaker 1: You know, John Cena literally like you know, being in
Speaker 1: the ring with me with with John Cena taught me
Speaker 1: how to be a main inventor in a w W
Speaker 1: E ring. If I would have never gotten the ring
Speaker 1: with John Cina I wouldn't have known that. And it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of getting in the ring and being
Speaker 1: and feeling and understanding what it is to be a
Speaker 1: top level talent like John Cena is. M wow. So
Speaker 1: those so those are rivalries and feuds you had mentioned before,
Speaker 1: like you want to be friends with with guys, So
Speaker 1: those rovalies in those feuds, they don't do they spill
Speaker 1: over to the locker room or sometimes have you guys
Speaker 1: have that kind of cohesion together it Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes it does spill over, but other times, like nowadays,
Speaker 1: it kind of doesn't. Usually can squash your beef and
Speaker 1: and figure it out, but honestly, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you just don't like a person, and you know everyone's
Speaker 1: not gonna like everyone, and people are gonna say things
Speaker 1: that that hurt. And it's on national television and if
Speaker 1: someone says something that hurts, then you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: this guy, you want to go, let's go and we'll see.
Speaker 1: So you just you never know what people are gonna
Speaker 1: say or do um, But nowadays usually you can you
Speaker 1: can figure things out. What is a practice entail as
Speaker 1: a w D W W E superstar And the reason
Speaker 1: I asked that is because you know, obviously I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you do it, but there's some guys and gals
Speaker 1: who do some things off the ropes. You just don't
Speaker 1: You just don't wait, You just don't wake up a triple. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so being a w superstar is completely different than being
Speaker 1: an NFL star, MLB or NBA. It's a different type
Speaker 1: of training. For instance, my training, I make sure that
Speaker 1: I work out, you know, three or four or five
Speaker 1: times a week. I make sure I do as much
Speaker 1: cardio as I can so I can stay in the ring.
Speaker 1: And literally my cardio is usually like sprints, Like I
Speaker 1: do sprints, slow sprint, slow sprint, slow sprint, because that's
Speaker 1: what w W E is. When you're in that ring,
Speaker 1: you're sprinting and then all of a sudden you take
Speaker 1: a fall, and you you sell that fall for a
Speaker 1: little bit and then you sprint again, then you sprint again.
Speaker 1: Some matches are a complete sprint, so you gotta keep
Speaker 1: your cardio up. A lot of my practice is talking,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'll cut promos in a ring, in
Speaker 1: in a mirror all the time, even at this level,
Speaker 1: to keep my uh me feeling you know that I'm
Speaker 1: on my toes at all times. Honestly, being host of
Speaker 1: Cannonball kind of helps helps me practice for w w E.
Speaker 1: I think being on this podcast is a is a
Speaker 1: practice for w w E. When I first started in
Speaker 1: w E, UM, I wanted uh to be the top guy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be at a level of of just amazing, no,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say. And I'll never forget my
Speaker 1: first time hosting a show. It was for w w A.
Speaker 1: It was a called Diva Search, and I forgot a
Speaker 1: phone number and I and it was in front of
Speaker 1: a live audience, and I forgot the phone number that
Speaker 1: that people would have to call in to vote. And
Speaker 1: this is the most important thing that I forgot. And
Speaker 1: there's no one in my ear, there's no one that
Speaker 1: can tell me anything about that. And I went into
Speaker 1: a cold sweat. I blanked out, And I'll never forget
Speaker 1: having that feeling and walking back and hearing the crowd
Speaker 1: just go complete silence, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get fired. I'm gonna get fired. And I never wanted
Speaker 1: to have that feeling ever again. So I asked, w
Speaker 1: w E, can I do all the radio interviews that
Speaker 1: people don't want to do. I will wake up at
Speaker 1: six in the morning every single morning to do radio
Speaker 1: interviews so I can practice, you know, just talking and
Speaker 1: getting points to where I ever feel that cold sweat
Speaker 1: happened again. I know what to do and how to
Speaker 1: get out of it and how to get that feeling.
Speaker 1: So you love it, I mean, like, honestly, I love
Speaker 1: being a like I love I used to love having
Speaker 1: a people booing me, but now you know, we don't
Speaker 1: have that. Now we have a virtual fans in our thunderdome,
Speaker 1: and uh and it's it's honestly, it's it's it's pretty great.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's interesting. It's it's tested me like now,
Speaker 1: the way we're shooting and the way we're filming, like
Speaker 1: w w E, it's like, man, this is different, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's completely uh new kind of talent that you
Speaker 1: have to develop. And it's you're always changing and evolving.
Speaker 1: You are my tag team partner. You're getting me ready. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's pick up my outfit. What am I wearing? I mean,
Speaker 1: I wear trunks, but whatever you feel comfortable, and obviously
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable in football jersey football tights there you
Speaker 1: go like big show, like the one that strap, this
Speaker 1: goes over and then you got the whole like a
Speaker 1: little like a little leotard. All you do not want
Speaker 1: to wear a leotard like the Big like the Big Show.
Speaker 1: It depends on how you're feeling right now, are you
Speaker 1: did you did do you have do you have a
Speaker 1: dad bot? Or do you did you like a or
Speaker 1: do you still have the ripped abs? Now I don't.
Speaker 1: I never really had ripped apps. Then we want to
Speaker 1: cover a little bit. We want to cover just a
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't have ripped apps. I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I got a can or two in the six packs
Speaker 1: showing right to the stone call. You get your little
Speaker 1: vest right, you can add vests, but the vest gotta
Speaker 1: come off at some point. The two little like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't have I don't have ripped abs.
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't have a dad bot. I
Speaker 1: mean I ain't scared the show. I'm not scared to
Speaker 1: take my shirt off at the pool. Now, I'm good
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, you get the painting. Know
Speaker 1: that that phone goes. That phone you can hold it
Speaker 1: in for the first ten minutes. My boy on I'm
Speaker 1: looking at his view from the side and WHOA what
Speaker 1: trstor is he in? All right? So? Uh so okay,
Speaker 1: what about what about shoes? What am I wearing Jay's?
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm black man, I gotta have styled now,
Speaker 1: I can't be If you want to wait, I would say,
Speaker 1: where wouldever you feel most comfortable that you will be
Speaker 1: able to perform your best in and feel like a
Speaker 1: w W E superstar. I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to paint your face. You want to paint your face?
Speaker 1: Paint your face, you know, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be running around and wrestling, wrestling and
Speaker 1: tumbling and jumping for an hour. Jay's ain't really the
Speaker 1: shoes you want to wear. No, I mean obviously, if
Speaker 1: you watched Jordan, he didn't even like him. Did you
Speaker 1: see that documentary? He literally goes, I put these on
Speaker 1: and I literally couldn't believe I was. I wore these
Speaker 1: at one point. Yes, I love that documentary. Yeah. Uh so, okay, shoes, Okay,
Speaker 1: comfortable shoes. Now what's my name? This is the most
Speaker 1: important right here? This can get him. I think I
Speaker 1: think your name is so is so big that you
Speaker 1: can't really change it. So he Smitty, I'm Smitty s Smith.
Speaker 1: Say you're Smitty Senior Steven what you could you could
Speaker 1: definitely be Senor Estevan definitely. Yeah. Oh man, that'd be
Speaker 1: a great matchup. That'd be a great matchup. I like that,
Speaker 1: you know we would be based off that would It
Speaker 1: would be the flon match, because well, what you could
Speaker 1: do is you could have Raymisterio and Dominic his son
Speaker 1: versus me and you, and whoever wins gets to wear
Speaker 1: them ask. So the object is to take Gray Masterials
Speaker 1: mask off and put it on you. But here's once
Speaker 1: it's on you, then it's your mask for now on.
Speaker 1: It would be a finisher move. I don't know, because
Speaker 1: if I get hit below the belt, gonna somebody, I'm
Speaker 1: whooping somebody's ass. I don't care, TV care. We take
Speaker 1: this spilling over into the locker room. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what it would be called the ass whooping. Just be
Speaker 1: hold persona, just now. I love it. I like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I agree. It's called the
Speaker 1: DP three And basically the whole premise of this is
Speaker 1: to go beyond who you are as a w W superstar.
Speaker 1: It is to go to just a deeper level. So Smitthie,
Speaker 1: go ahead and give him the first question. If I
Speaker 1: could peel away all the onions and get down to
Speaker 1: the of the mess, who are you? Who am I?
Speaker 1: I am a dad of two little girls who honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much love I had in me
Speaker 1: until like I always, I always loved my wife. My
Speaker 1: wife is amazing, She's incredible. She's a hard working mother,
Speaker 1: and she's a hard working woman in general. She does
Speaker 1: so many things to make me better. But and the
Speaker 1: love for her is amazing. But the love for my daughters,
Speaker 1: it is something like when I when mom, when Monroe
Speaker 1: was born, it opened up a whole new like portion
Speaker 1: of my heart I didn't even know I had. And
Speaker 1: then my then I had my other daughter, and then
Speaker 1: that's another portion of my heart that I didn't know
Speaker 1: I had, And it's incredible. Like the other day, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to teach my daughters how to swim like she's two,
Speaker 1: and she went underwater and kicked her feet and listened
Speaker 1: to everything that I said and did it like she swim.
Speaker 1: Now she's not a good swimmer, not a strong swimmer,
Speaker 1: but she did it. And I've never had a proud
Speaker 1: popa moment. Then I did that day. So you asked
Speaker 1: me who am I? Who am I? I'm Mike Mzanin,
Speaker 1: a father of two and a husband of it. But
Speaker 1: as the Miss, like, I've done everything and anything I've
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and I still want more. As the Miss,
Speaker 1: I want it all, I Like my agent always asked me, Mike,
Speaker 1: you know you're hosting your show, you have your own
Speaker 1: reality show, your w superstar. What else do you want?
Speaker 1: I want it all? What do what does that mean?
Speaker 1: I want movies, I want animation. I want I want
Speaker 1: to own my own production company. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to executly produce. I want to be able to
Speaker 1: to elevate other people and to get other people their dreams.
Speaker 1: Those are the things that I want to do. And
Speaker 1: so they're like, all right, let's get started. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at with my life. Now. How
Speaker 1: do you think people see you? And how do you
Speaker 1: want people to see you? If you watch Cannonball in
Speaker 1: w W, you see it allowed obnoxious, um, sometimes funny, uh,
Speaker 1: just egomaniac. And then if you see miss and Mrs
Speaker 1: you see a dad, you see a guy that um
Speaker 1: you know is just out there doing his best, um
Speaker 1: to to make right for his family. So I think
Speaker 1: my my best qualities are my worst qualities. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just one of those things that I've
Speaker 1: lived with my entire life. What do you want those
Speaker 1: beautiful little girls to say about their daddy, Michael. I
Speaker 1: hope that they know. I hope that they say that,
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, I know, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: mistakes and sometimes I'm not going to be there. But
Speaker 1: Dad tried his hardest. He did his best to be
Speaker 1: the best dad possible. And I hope that I'm able to,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, educate and grow two beautiful, independent,
Speaker 1: strong minded women, and hopefully I do my best to
Speaker 1: do that. Mike's whole life changed after the real world.
Speaker 1: What was the moment Smithy that everything changed for you, man?
Speaker 1: That's a loaded question. Uh, A lot changed. The moment
Speaker 1: for me. The moment that changed for me is when
Speaker 1: I jumped on that airplane a couple of days after
Speaker 1: fourth of July two thousand, No I went off. I
Speaker 1: got on the airplane one way ticket to you University
Speaker 1: of Utah. That's when things changed for me. UM really
Speaker 1: realized that this was something different. Never really experienced anything
Speaker 1: outside of l A. Took the Greyhound when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, Greyhound bus to Las Vegas and we stayed
Speaker 1: at the Fremont Hotel, which is downtown Las Vegas, which
Speaker 1: is now is regentified and it is considered the old
Speaker 1: part of Las Vegas. When you go to new part
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas, Um, it's a lot different. I just
Speaker 1: remember when I have my brother's a fireman north Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: But I remember a couple of years ago we went
Speaker 1: to Vegas and we stayed that we stayed in a
Speaker 1: new part, but we drove down to the old part
Speaker 1: with my brother and we had lunch, and it just
Speaker 1: brought me back to understanding, um, how far I've come
Speaker 1: where I am today. Um. So I realized, just like
Speaker 1: the myths, that there are significant, um small little things
Speaker 1: that happened in your life to have such a huge result.
Speaker 1: And I think really just listening to mis and what
Speaker 1: it really put me back into is just kind of
Speaker 1: really I don't know. I guess doing a doing a
Speaker 1: grateful report, Um, what am I grateful for? And I'm
Speaker 1: just grateful for the things that I've learned, um about
Speaker 1: myself about my family and then also the things that
Speaker 1: I at that times you take for granted. Um, you
Speaker 1: take for granted the success, but you also, I think,
Speaker 1: more anything, you take the failures for granted. Right in
Speaker 1: hearing on the meds talking about how he grew up
Speaker 1: and what he went through in Ohio and realizing just
Speaker 1: going on the real world and understanding all the different people,
Speaker 1: he really didn't know the world. And I don't think
Speaker 1: any of us really know the world until we get
Speaker 1: out there and are and we are exposed to it
Speaker 1: and it is right dead sinner, right in front of
Speaker 1: our face. We start to realize how big the world
Speaker 1: is and really how small we are. Cut to It
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Speaker 1: Alex Lebrek, production manager Sarah Pollock. Theme music by Alex Johnson,
Speaker 1: Lyrics and vocals by Anthony Hamilton. You ain't heard about it,
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