1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. I can't remember how the week started because 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: it was like a blur. It was just an influx 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: of broken vehicles. I will say that I noticed that 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: you are hanging onto your cars. You are fixing everything 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: these are we going to do what they say can't 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: be done. We've got a way to go at a 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: short time to get there. The car doctor, I wanted 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: the affordable jump start units. You know, off the battery 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: goat page. You can start the car from it. Uh, 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to keep them charged up. I did not 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: do they go bed. If you let him fit for 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: a long period of time, you know it could be 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctor, 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: all in the garage. Do orders are opening? But I 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: and now good food, good meat, good god, let's eat running. 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: You know what's really great? Um? Hello and welcome. By 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: the way, I was watching Saturday Night Fever last night. Uh, 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: you know from the seventies, and it's such a great movie. Besides, 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: but some of the cars that were in Brooklyn, New 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: York seventy seven are just really cool to look at. 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: It's just it is. It is sort of like a 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: time warp, right you you look at the cars on 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: the street, big gigantic Pontiacs and Buicks and uh, you 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: know there, jeez, I don't think there was a Toyota 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: in the film that I saw. The car that John 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Travolta and the rest of the guys he hung out 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: with We're driving was I think a sixty three, sixty 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: four Chevy and Pala four door. I mean those things, 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: they were like a bazillion of them. Right. It's just 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: it's just a moment in time that you look at 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: the microcosm of what a film is about and just 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: what that represents, that one slice of America at that 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: point in its time and its history. And I kind 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: of reminisced about that. I was. I was driving this morning, 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I had to go to the chiropractor like I do 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and I noticed around me there was a 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: fairly new Cadillac. In the rear view mirror. There was 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: a new BMW up in front of me, there was 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: a BMW coming down the road. I passed two Tesla's 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: in the parking lot, and it occurred to me that 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: if I started to be observant, there was probably anywheres 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: between four and five thousand dollars worth of cars around 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: me and anyone given time. And I'm driving my ninety 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: seven Ranger with two miles on it, and I'm thinking 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: what am I missing out on? But then again, maybe 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know. I just just an observation, 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, in in in in Saturday Night Fever, I 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: don't think there was four thousand dollars worth of cars 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: scaled appropriately for inflation over the past forty or fifty 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: years in that movie. And it just is it a 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: reflection of the economic times? As tough as the economy is, 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: are we just are we living better? I guess is 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: what occurred to me. Are we all living better? You know? 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: We've they've they've found ways to make more available to 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: us at younger ages. It seems. I I'm sorry, I'm rambling, um, 60 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: but I thought that was car worthy to note that 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: that they have made it easier to purchase cars that, 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, thirty or forty years ago. We're just out 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: of the budget because you don't. You don't. You didn't 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: see a lot of people driving them then. At at 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: a younger age, it was something you you work towards 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: to drive a Cadillac by the time you were fifty 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: or sixty years old. That's that's my memory, That's what 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I remember. What else do we want to talk about 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: in this open Well, I think I've got a reference 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: this that I put something up on the Facebook page 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: upon Ronanindi in the car Doctor, and you know, it's funny. 72 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: All I'm doing is report the news. I'm not making 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: it up. I'm not you know, I've got no bones 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to crush. I've got no reason to make things up. 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I put an article up that talks about a Tesla 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: that caught fire in Pennsylvania and the car burned down 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and the house burnt down that it was next to. 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: And some of the comments about we're just so snarky. 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no other way to say it. 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're attributed to that. I've only want to 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: present one side, and I'm so one sided and I'm 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: resistant to the future. You know what, No, that isn't it. 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm just here to report the news. I'm kind of surprised, 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: but then again, I'm not because people in this country 85 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: don't seem to be able to equally and evenly exchange 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the open ideas of what possibly could happen. They've got 87 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: to attack it. And I've never said electric cars were bad, 88 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not here to defend myself, but I will 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: because I feel the need. I'm not here to say 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: electric cars are bad. I just keep saying it doesn't 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: make sense the way they're being presented. And I suppose 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: if I read the article in front of me, and 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: I will maybe sometime this hour. And this is from Forbes. 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: You've heard of Forbes. That's a pretty reliable source of 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: news and information and financial wherewithal Right, Paul Vosper, president 96 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: and CEO of a company called Juice Bar, wrote a 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: great article about range anxiety with electric vehicles and and 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you know why the charging stations, unreliable charges could kill 99 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle industry. And it's a concern. And if 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I probably talk about that, I'll probably get hate mail 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: saying that I don't like electric cars. No, all I'm 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: doing is talking about what's in the news. You know, 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: nobody's come out with an article that provides the math 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: that says here's how we're gonna do it. I keep 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: asking for that. All I keep hearing is technology will 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: take over and it will just happen by itself. Yeah, 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: it probably will. I agree with that statement. I just 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen in and now. It's 109 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: it's like fourteen you was thirteen years from now, according 110 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: to California and the rest of the country. I think 111 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: it's happening too fast. And I've yet to hear the plan. 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm I'm still waiting for this plan to come up 113 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: to see how we're gonna make this happen, and I 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: just I just don't get it. I you know, listen, 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: call me what you want. I'm just here to report 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the news. That's all I want to talk about. I 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: had a two thousand and eight Toyota. We'll talk about 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: something internal combustion engine before we take the break. Two 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: thousand and eight Toyota Rap four. Customer complaint was it 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: was hard to get out of gear. She almost couldn't 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: get it out of gear, and then couldn't get it 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: out of gear. And it had an A B S 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: light in a vehicle stability control light that came on 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: while driving, and the car started to act funny. It 125 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: started the buck and jerk and just it just didn't 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: work right. Um, it had all kinds of uh as 127 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: she said, it was uneven and unsmoothed. By the time 128 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I got the car, naturally, all the problems had gone away. 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Everything had sort of cleared itself out and it was 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: back to normal. So why I did what I always do. 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I scanned it, I you know, road tested it when 132 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: for the basic diagnostics, trying to duplicate it, replicate it, 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: and I couldn't. But I did find what I expected. 134 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I did find a P zero five oh four fault 135 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: code that talked about brake switch correlation or a voltage 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: problem and issues in the brake switch circuit. Now you know, 137 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I ended up putting a brake switch in the car. 138 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: It was the most obvious fault. It was the most 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: obvious failure because it was an intermittent. It was a 140 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: it was a random intermittent. And the moment she said 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: she couldn't get the car out of park, I said 142 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: to myself, you know, I wonder if she had brake 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: lights and she didn't know obviously, She wasn't looking to 144 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: see if the brake lights were working. It wasn't on 145 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: her mind at the moment. She was trying to, you know, 146 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: drive the car. And I wonder how many of you 147 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: are just aware of the small things. You know, when 148 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: something doesn't work, What else do you notice not working? 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: And you know, in the case of a shift, or 150 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: not coming out of gear, or not coming out of park, 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: or art to shift, or you feel like you're grinding 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: against something, it's possible that And I think in her 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: case the brake switch was limiting the operation of the interlock. Um, 154 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: it's it's possible you've got a bad breake light switch. 155 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you see something shifting related, look up, 156 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: look in the look in the river of your mirror. 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: If it's dark out, look in you know, have somebody 158 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: step on the brake and go back and look at 159 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: the vic rear the vehicle. Do you do you have 160 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: break lights. If you don't have break lights, vehicle is 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: not gonna shift out of gear. It's gonna be difficult 162 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: at best, um, if it shifts at all. So just 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: something to be aware of. I know, that's sort of 164 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: a very simple, um, a very simple, simplistic approach. But 165 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention it that sometimes the answers 166 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: are very obvious. They're right there where we can see them. So, um, 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it was a bad brake light switch and that's what 168 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: fixed the car. Hey, let's pull over and take a pause. 169 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: At five zero nine zero, I'm running anading the car doctor. 170 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: I'll be back to take your questions right after this. 171 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Don't go away vehicle not taking you where you want 172 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: to go? Well call Ron. He's the expert at making 173 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: your vehicle take you where you need it. Five five 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: zero zero zero and now back to Ron. Hey, let's 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: get down to France and Delaware twenty cheap compass and 176 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: the sounds like a battery dream problem. Fran. Welcome to 177 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Yes? So low Um, 178 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I used to listen to you for many years up 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: in Connectic when I was in Connecticut. But anyway, Um, 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: they installed a battery maintainer. They've been very nice. Um, 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: it's just that they have to open the hood and 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: do everything. But they say they're trying to get an 183 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: extension where I'll just plug it in. You know, I 184 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: won't have to open the hood and plug it in. 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: So I plug it in. It's orange. In the morning, 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: it's green. If I take it out for half an hour, 187 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: come back, it's orange. I plug it in until it 188 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: turns this green. Um, it's just that I don't put 189 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: enough mileage on at one time. Well, I think, hang 190 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: on second here, friend, because I think I missed a step. 191 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Tell me the story from the beginning. Um, is this 192 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: the case that this compass the battery is just going 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: dead on its own? Is that what they're trying to solve. Yeah, 194 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to solve it from going dead, they said. 195 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: I think they said that car has two batteries, and 196 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: because it has so many electronics in they don't turn 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: off at night or when the car is off, and 198 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: it's it's constantly draining, slowly draining the battery. And because 199 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't keep the I guess keep the engine going. 200 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: They said, for at least forty five minutes that one. 201 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: How often do you drive the car? A couple of 202 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: times a week? Okay? How many miles around the car? 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: It has a little over two thousand And you bought 204 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: the car new, yes, okay, so it's got let's call it. 205 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: And you've had the car? How long? Uh? It was 206 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: a year in September. Alright, so you're doing a year, 207 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: uh roughly, so that's like two or fifty miles a month. 208 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: And and have they said to you there is or 209 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: there is not a drain on the battery. Well, there 210 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: has to be a train on the battery. And yeah, 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: I guess there's a drain on the battery. The car, 212 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: the compass when when we when I first got it, okay, um, 213 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: we got it when my husband was alive. A month 214 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: later he passed away. You know, it's my car. I'm 215 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: dealing with it, thank you. And um, when you came 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: to a full stop, the engine would right down, yes, okay, 217 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: so it stopped doing that a few months ago. So 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I when I brought it in, uh you know for 219 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: an annual to get the I had the oil changed, 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, even though it had low mileage. And um 221 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: they said it was because um, I wasn't driving it 222 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: enough and the battery I guess went low enough so 223 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: that the car would not, you know, go down at 224 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: a full stop and then come back up again. You're 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: telling me their story is that because the vehicle doesn't 226 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: have a full charge in the battery, the start stop 227 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: system stops working. Yeah, it doesn't sound right to me? 228 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: Does it sound right? Doesn't doesn't make any sense. You're 229 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: telling me the defeat for the number one way we're 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: trying to say fuel economy and emissions in this country 231 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: is a weak battery. I know, I know. And they said, 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: even so I'm using this charger, it may not solve 233 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: that situation with the car turning itself down and up again. 234 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: So your question to them is, so you're telling me 235 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Jeep is selling defective vehicles. I'm just listen. I'm just 236 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a wise guy. No, no, no, 237 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: it's like I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Um, 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: can they show me another twenty compass that does the 239 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: exact same thing, because you can't be the only person 240 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: in America that goes a year, I would think. So, 241 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: I know, I mean so far they've been very nice. 242 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: But I thought, I, you know, without a man around 243 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: that knows the car, I thought I needed some extra help. 244 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: I asked him, well, should I put a new battery 245 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: in right? That would be my logical choice. And what 246 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: they say, they said, well, you are under warranty. Well, 247 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: when I went there about a week ago, they said, oh, 248 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: we put a new battery. I said, no, you did 249 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: not put a new battery, and yet and um, you know, 250 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: and he seemed to say, well if even if they did, 251 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: the same thing would happen since I'm not driving it 252 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: that much. Well, now, I spoke to another lady who 253 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: has a compass, and she said she didn't like that 254 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: on off, you know, where the engine would go low, 255 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: so she just hits the button to turn it off. 256 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: But I thought it's a good way to save gas. 257 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Well it is, and you know, but that that shouldn't 258 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: be the reason or that is not the reason why 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the battery is going dead. That's being affected by whatever 260 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: is going on. My first question is, all right, because 261 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: let's be logical about this, Okay. What what they're telling 262 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: you is that you've you've purchased what was probably a 263 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: forty dollar vehicle, okay, and and and they're telling you 264 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: that the best they can come up with to make 265 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: sure that the battery starts every time as a maintainer 266 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: that they've added as an accessory for a vehicle that 267 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: gets driven to it or fifty miles a month every 268 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: time I pull the car into the garage. Right, Well, 269 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: they're just getting ready for electric vehicles. Kid, though, um, 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: you know that's that's the next step. I had to 271 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: throw that in there. At my age, this is my 272 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: last car, and I understand that I sort of said 273 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: that half tongue in cheek, but um, I think you've 274 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: got to find another Jeep dealer. I don't think you're 275 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: getting the whole story. I don't. I don't think what 276 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: you're going through is correct. You know, I would like 277 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: to hear that somebody did some testing. I would like 278 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: to see some test results that there is no electrical 279 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: drain or draw on the system. Um. Quite frankly, it 280 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: sounds like, and I hate to say it like this, 281 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: but it sounds like they're they're taking advantage of you 282 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: as a woman, saying, well, you know, listen, there's a 283 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: lot of computers on the car, and that's what draws 284 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: the That's what draws everything down. You know what. The 285 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: truth is that vehicle has a shutdown system where I 286 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: believe after twenty to twenty five minutes, most of the 287 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: modules will be shut down, shut off so the drain 288 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: doesn't occur, because that's what they're trying to prevent. If 289 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: there is a defect in the vehicle, then it's going 290 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: to continue to do what it's doing and listen. This 291 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: could be something as simple as carefully looking around the vehicle. 292 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Is something plugged into a power port or a cigarette 293 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: lighter that you're not aware of? A a charge of 294 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: cell phone? Something? Is something auxiliary plugged in? Are there 295 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: any aftermarket accessories in this vehicle? Um? Did anybody put 296 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: an aftermarket alarm system in that? Anybody put in the aftermarket? Um? 297 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, dash cams? Anything? Is this vehicle stock as 298 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: it came out of the factory? Friend? Um? I assumed? So? Okay, 299 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: we didn't. You know, we didn't put do anything to 300 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the car after we purchased it. The only thing I 301 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: put in was that was really good formats. I want 302 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: you to ask. I want you to ask your service 303 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: manager two questions or your service writer, or two questions 304 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: this week? All right? Number one, if this was his 305 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: mother's car, what would he do? Okay? Okay? And then 306 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: number two, did anybody do a battery draw test to 307 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: see if there's a drain on the system? Okay? Now, 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: if we wanted to get if we wanted to get 309 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: down and dirty and into the math of this, we 310 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: could calculate based on the the the cranking amperage reserve 311 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: on that battery, and the amp hours of that battery. 312 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: How long it would take for that battery to go 313 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: dead from sitting The average car will last two and 314 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: a half to three weeks. But yeah, that's you know, 315 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I figured that it sounds like you're driving it enough 316 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: that it should wake it up enough that and listen, 317 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: the problem is easy. You know what they're telling you. 318 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen with a new battery, telling to put 319 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: a new battery in it. It's under warranty. I know. 320 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: He even said that. He said, well, you're under warranty. 321 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, let's put a new battery. Could 322 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: this car have two batteries? Yes, it does. It will 323 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: because of the start stop. So let's let's change the batteries. 324 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: And you know what if the problem, if the problem 325 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: goes away for a while, then we'll have to have 326 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: another conversation if the problem starts to occur again within 327 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: a month. It's not the batteries. Just saying okay, just saying, kiddo. 328 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: They say they say they have this extension chord for 329 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: me on Monday, So I guess I'll be going in Monday, 330 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: and I'll go with them. Listen, I'm proud of you're 331 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: doing a good job. It's tough being a woman dealing 332 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: with mechanics. I think I think most mechanics handle it 333 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: poorly and want to say most, but some. Let's just 334 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: say it like that. So you're doing a heck of 335 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: a job. You keep going. You need anything, you give 336 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: us a call. Be well, friend, and be safe. I'm 337 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: running Any of the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. 338 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: I can of first real sistring out the five and 339 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: it's in the fingers. It was the summer of sixteen. Well, Mac, 340 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: we're on Any of the Car Doctor here at eight 341 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero. I should point out that 342 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: the five zero zero number seven. When this show is 343 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: not on the air, you can call leave a message. 344 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Executive producer and best engineer and radio Tom Ray will 345 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: call you back and put you on the broadcast. Yes, sir, 346 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: how are you today? Tom? A little bit tired, but 347 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: you know it was a busy drive the other day. 348 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: You're going to see the Daughter Unit up your Boston. 349 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: You mean it was a busy park. I saw your 350 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: post up on Facebook. Well, and let's talk about your 351 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: your comment about electric cars before you're gonna you're gonna 352 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: get me in trouble. Yes, I am okay. That that's 353 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: that's a three and a half hour drive. That took 354 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: us seven and a half because of all the crashes 355 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: we encountered in Connecticut, And so were we supposed to 356 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: get another hotel room in Connecticut to let this thing 357 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: charge up? No, you're supposed to travel. You're supposed to 358 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: travel during the day, and then you know, in in 359 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: another fifty years, you'll have solar cells on top of 360 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: the car and that will charge the battery. You just 361 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: gotta wait fifty or sixty years before you can take 362 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: the trip again. Yeah. Well, you know that's a little 363 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: difficult because I'll be in a box by then, and 364 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, my wife had to work, I had to work. Um, 365 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, who's gonna who's gonna be my engineer? Then? 366 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hi, I don't know. I think I 367 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: I think we'll both you know, be be laying side 368 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: by side. You do the show that way, have the microphone, 369 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: all the microphone on my side. You'll they'll put the 370 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: jack in your box to you know, so I can 371 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: talk to you. So, um, well, you know, and again 372 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Tom and I made that comment on Facebook when I 373 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: saw that on your page. Again, all right, at the 374 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: risk of being considered I don't know, up to sir, 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: just avoiding the issue or just trying to be one sided. 376 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: Explain to me how we're going to solve traffic jams. 377 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: You you took a three and a half hour ride. 378 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: That was seven hours, yes, and we did it in 379 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: my wife's fusion. And when we got there, we still 380 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: had about undred ninety miles left on the tank, right, 381 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't have to stop for fuel, and we 382 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: had a dog with us. So what were we supposed 383 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: to do right now? Will a battery will an electric 384 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: vehicle go that long? I don't. I don't know. It 385 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: depends on the battery right now. So I just I'm 386 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: just you know, I still think about we had We've 387 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: had a couple of calls, and I wish they would 388 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: call back from Mexico. We had a gentleman call in 389 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: from Mexico City, and I remember his comment that that 390 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: he said that Mexico is pretty much laughing at the 391 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: United States, um to the point that you know, we 392 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: don't seem to understand that air passes over the border 393 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: this way. To that way and trying to clean up 394 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: the air here. Mexico affects us just as much. And 395 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: he said, in a country like Mexico, I'll never forget 396 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: his comment. He said, in Mexico, we're thrilled to have 397 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: running water and indoor plumbing. He goes, we'll never have 398 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. And and you know, how are you going 399 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: to solve that? What We're gonna be the lone country 400 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: with electric vehicles and we're gonna clean up the world. Yeah, 401 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so, it's I know how I would 402 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: do this, by the way, I really do, Tom. I 403 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: I would start to explain this to the public that 404 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: and I'll get off this ranth in a minute. That 405 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: you know it would be. It would be delivery vehicles first, 406 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: fed X ups, mail, uh, some of the trucks, you know, 407 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: everything there had to go electric. And I would look 408 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: at the ramifications of that instead of trying to push 409 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: it all down. And that makes sense, which is why 410 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: they won't do it right. But you know, maybe I 411 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: should run for president A nanny what us so we'll 412 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: be driving l A six chavels. Let's uh, let's talk 413 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: to Stephen Virginia before I get thrown off the air. Stephen, 414 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Well, 415 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: my question is about the vehicle battery, the cranking battery. 416 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: On this hand, it's uh a thousand miles going on 417 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: eight years of purchase. Uh. It's got the fourth battery 418 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: counting the original the last three years at the most. 419 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: And I know sometime back you talked about some other 420 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: batteries out in the world that are essentially better than 421 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: the old traditional battery. So I'm interested in hearing about that. 422 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: And gee, I guess I need to get my start 423 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: XP ten. I'm going to do that. And following on 424 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: with the last call, I hate auto start stop. I 425 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: unless I can shut it off on a future vehicle, 426 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have it. So I'll let you 427 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: do your talking here. I think A Stephen, it's good 428 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: to talk to you again. I think what you were 429 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: referencing was a g M batteries. And I can't think 430 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: of the gentleman's name, but we had someone on from 431 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: a GM batteries and we talked to them, UH in 432 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: regard to the way a g MS work so much better, 433 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: and they do um, they do, and they do last longer. 434 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: The problem with your Honda is I believe that's a 435 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: group size fifty one battery and it is probably the 436 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: number one short term failure battery. Uh, going I I 437 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: see so many of those batteries fail such short term memory, 438 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and you know it's just there's just not a lot 439 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: you can do about it. But um Auto Batteries dot Com, 440 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: I believe is the website you're looking for, and you'll 441 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: see all kinds of information there and they talk about 442 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: that the inces of batteries between lead acid and a 443 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: GM batteries. And you know, Steve, it's still gonna come 444 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: down to where you'll probably have to put a battery 445 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: in the car every four years, but at least you 446 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: get four years out of it instead of the two 447 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: and a half to three. And you know, it's worth trying, 448 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: because I'm not surprised to hear you say, as a 449 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: Honda owner in a vehicle, that's what vehicles eight years old, 450 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: nine years old, you put the batteries in it. That's 451 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: not unusual. Yeah, And uh, there's not a lot of 452 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: physical space for the battery. If there were more space, 453 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: you could put in a bigger group size, and that 454 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: would be part of the problem. Right there. Yeah, and 455 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: they don't seem to acknowledge that. Well, you know, it's 456 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: it's it's just part of the science of this. You know. 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: I I've never before and all my years of going 458 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to classes, I've never heard this until just recently in 459 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: the last two or three years, where we've got instructors 460 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: and you're gonna understand, some of the automotive instructors are 461 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: the finest minds in the industry. They really are. These 462 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: eyes are just right on the cutting edge. And you 463 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: go and you sit in the class and they'll tell 464 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: you about these systems that the manufacturers come out with. 465 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: And of late, so many of them are saying, yeah, 466 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: we think that what happens is the engineers go to 467 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: the drawing board with this idea, they go out, they 468 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: have lunch, they come back, maybe it was a liquid lunch, 469 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: and they actually put it into play, you know. And 470 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: you hate to say it like that, but because some 471 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: of it makes no sense. Uh, you know, it's it's 472 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: sort of like every time the snap on tool truck 473 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: shows up and he's got a new socket that fits 474 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: this torqu's anti tamper proof, you know, with a you know, 475 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: just just a different socket to replace a bolt that 476 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 1: on last year's model didn't have it, but now they 477 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: changed that by jess so much, and now you got 478 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: to spend another forty dollars or fifty dollars on a 479 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: special tool that you say, why, Um, it's it's the 480 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: industry has has gotten to the point where it's so diverse, 481 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: it changes so quickly you can't possibly even hope or 482 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: dream to catch up or stay up. It's it's it's 483 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: come to that. The thing that amazes me is when 484 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: you talk about an aluminum boat that's too small in 485 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: diameter going into steel threads and is subject to corrosion 486 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: and you have to get in there and get it 487 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: out and it's upside down and backwards. It's for you, 488 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: I because they don't ever anticipated, you know, going bad. Listen, Stephen, 489 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: it's not about I remember. And I'll say it like this. 490 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: My my best buddy in high school, Russell. I remember 491 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: his dad, Mr Koke, Mr Koge, who's long gone now 492 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: he's passed. I can use his name. Um, he drove 493 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Buick's his whole life, all right, nicest guy in the 494 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: world he was, you know, And I remember Mr cookee 495 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: buying Buick Electras and lo Sabers and back in the 496 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: seventies and the eighties and after every snowstorm, uh, you 497 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: know Russell and I would watch him wash the wheel 498 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: wells out and get the snow and the salt out 499 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: of the wheel wells because he wanted the car to list. 500 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: He was that caliber of a person. Okay. Today you know, 501 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: it's the mentality is the car'll go four to five 502 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: years and if it needs something major, we're gonna get 503 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: rid of it. And it's I don't think longevities and 504 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: the automaker's mindset anymore. And that's why I don't think 505 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: they care where they put certain bolts and how they 506 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: put them in and the location. And it's just, you 507 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: know what, maybe if the repair is too expensive, they'll 508 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: buy a new car. I don't know. I think like 509 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: that sometimes and maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. You know, 510 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: somebody proved me with the chip problem today. I was 511 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: at the at the dealer. You know, last week there 512 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: were maybe four or five pilots and two Uh. Now 513 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: they're all four door to four door white Accord Sports. 514 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: So there's nothing to buy if you want new, right 515 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: and if there if there is something to buy if 516 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: you do want to end up buying something, Stephen, what 517 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: happens is then you pay a market searcharge. Uh, I 518 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: forget what they're calling it exactly, but you're gonna pay 519 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: more on top of the list price. So yeah, used 520 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: cars are going up in value. They're gonna be around 521 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: for a while as always, sir, a pleasure. Get out 522 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: the auto Batteries dot com and you can read all 523 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: about a g M and the other kinds of batteries 524 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: that are available in the marketplace today. Be well, I'm 525 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: runing any of the car doctor. We're back right after this. 526 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back, We're na of the car doctor. Let's dive 527 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: right in. Mike in Illinois, an electric vehicle owner. If 528 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: I understand this correctly, I'm glad to have you, Mike fireaway. 529 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Um what can I do for you? Well, 530 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: I take I want to take a little bit of 531 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: umbrage with you, but also agree with your perspective on 532 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: on electric vehicles as I picked it up last week. Um, 533 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you entirely that taking an electric vehicle 534 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: on a long road trip is something I would not 535 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: try to do, uh when I'd rather have a battery 536 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: that will go like five six hundred miles and we'll 537 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: charge up in like forty five minutes as opposed to 538 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: what we have. Now, what electric vehicle do you own? 539 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Like if I can ask, my wife owns a Chevrolet 540 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Bolt which has about three miles of range in the battery, 541 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: but she uses it strictly as an urban vehicle, going 542 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: no more than sixty miles out of town with it. 543 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: That's herd. That is her second electric car. I drive 544 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a Honda Clarity, a plug in hybrid, which this time 545 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: of year, I get about thirty five miles of mileage 546 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: in the battery, but I've got up to three miles 547 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: in the gas tank. And we of course use the 548 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Clarity if we're going anywhere on the road and otherwise 549 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: use them around. Can I ask you? Can I ask 550 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: you a question? You have to answer this, But I'm 551 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: just curious. Um, you know, at this point in your life, 552 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: what is your lifestyle now versus twenty or thirty years ago? Um? 553 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Are you guys are retired six years old? Um? So 554 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: it's not the day to day taking kids here and there, right, 555 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: I say, it's it's not the day to day. I'm 556 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: just thinking if you were in your thirties and she 557 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: was in her thirties, and you were taking the kids 558 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: to school and picking up and after school activities. Do 559 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: you think that electric vehicle would fit your profile? Absolutely? 560 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: No problem. However, when I was in my thirties, I 561 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: drove Pontiacs, and in my fifties when our child got 562 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: out of college, I drove muscle cars. And now I 563 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: got out of luxury cars and into into this, which 564 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: pleases me immensely. And let me tell you what a 565 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: guy I golf with asked me, well, how often do 566 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: you have to plug your car in, because in the 567 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: summertime I have fifty miles in the battery. And I said, 568 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: it depends, but you know, we live in a community 569 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: of a hundred thousand metropolitan area, maybe two hundred, and 570 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: I said, probably every three days I plugged mine in. 571 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: But I said, the important question is how often do 572 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: I go to the gas station? And I said, when 573 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm in Springfield, I've been paying attention. I go to 574 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: the gas station less than two times a year, unless 575 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm on the road because I never you know, I'm 576 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: not that far from home and it gets under about 577 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: eight or ten miles and I throw it on and 578 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: charge it up and off I go. I am, I 579 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: am sold Our son lives in a greater bostonary He's 580 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: he's got the same kind of setup now. He's so 581 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: sold on it now like my wife. He and his 582 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: wife are tree huggers and animal buggers. But I'm I 583 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: am sold on it. It costs me less than four 584 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: dollars to go a hundred miles. Give me a car 585 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: in town getting twenty five miles to the gallon and 586 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: watch what it costs to go a hundred miles around town. Right. 587 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: I just I am just sold on this. I realized 588 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: that technology has got to go farther before they become ubiquitous. 589 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: But they are going. I really believe this is uh, 590 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: I hope. So I'm like, hey, Mike, I'll tell you what. 591 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Don't don't run away. Let me pull over and take 592 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: a pause. I want to continue this conversation when we 593 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: come back and I'm running nating of the car doctor 594 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: will be both be back right after this. Don't go away, 595 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: come back or any of the car doc. I'm talking 596 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: with Mike in Illinois about his electric vehicles. Mike, you're 597 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: still there, sir. So I have a couple of questions 598 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: for you. If I can the vehicle, your Honda Clarity, 599 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: that's you know, you're putting fuel in it twice a year. 600 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: Do they tell you or say anything to you, because 601 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: in my mechanical mind, I'm thinking, you've got six month 602 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: old fuel in there. Do you have any issues with 603 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: fuel quality? Do you have to use a fuel stabilizer 604 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: or it hasn't come up yet. What I do is 605 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: when I get to about a hundred miles, I put 606 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: ten dollars of gas in it. That's it to keep 607 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: it fresh. So I don't fill the tank up, even 608 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: doing that a couple of times a year, right, So 609 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: that I believe helps keep it fresh, right right? Um? 610 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: And then my other question is, um, you know why electric? Now, 611 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: before you answer that, I'm gonna be fair with you 612 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: because you've been fair with me, and I always try 613 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: to be this way. In the back of my mind, 614 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: all I've heard is that the majority of electricity we 615 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: generate in this country comes from fossil fuel plants. So 616 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: if that's a true statement, I'm not saying it is. 617 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: That's that's all I've ever read, and that's all I've 618 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: ever found. If that is a true statement, then did 619 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: you buy the electric to clean up the environment or 620 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: because the cost of gas, or or why? What was 621 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: the what was the reasoning? If I can well, First 622 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: of all, I don't disagree with with your comment. My 623 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: wife's first car was a leaf and I've had a 624 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: little tag on the side zero emission, right, And I 625 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: used to kid said, hey, you've got a whole powered car. Honey. 626 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: Hey you know what, Mike, I'll tell you what. The 627 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: clock's gonna grab us. Listen, I really enjoyed talking to you. 628 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: If I can get you back, either next hour or 629 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: at some point in the future, I'd love to continue 630 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: this conversation, but the clock's gonna take us. Mike. My apologies, 631 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm ringading in the car. Doctor. Mechanics are an expensive 632 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: They're priceless. See you, she m