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Speaker 1: this morning's podcast recapping the last two episodes of the

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Speaker 1: Last Dance. Those were some goodies on Sunday night. We

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Speaker 1: NBA news round up here, gentlemen, you're ready to talk

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Speaker 1: some basketball?

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, Well the first one's a doozy ESPN headline.

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Speaker 1: Adam Silver preps NBA players for challenges ahead. Yes, The

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Speaker 1: Players Association held a call with the NBA players on

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Speaker 1: Friday that included an update from the league and Commissioner Silver.

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Speaker 1: Now a number of things where reportedly discuss choms coming through.

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Speaker 1: With the breakdown on a few of those things, I

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Speaker 1: won't go through everything, but on that call, Day talked

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Speaker 1: about if the twenty nineteen twenty season resumes, No fans

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Speaker 1: He referenced a Christmas Day start for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: just threw at you and all the listeners out there.

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Speaker 1: But what was your biggest takeaway from reading this headline

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Speaker 1: and reading these articles about this call it took place

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Speaker 5: I am wagering that we're going to see basketball this season.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what the real message was from this.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to be getting.

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Speaker 4: to be the biggest asterisk in NBA history. I think

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Speaker 4: what you should do if I was the league officer,

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Speaker 4: give teams clear direction to say, you know what, under

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Speaker 4: that that's the season. Nineteen to twenty is gone. Now

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Speaker 4: But again I think for the for the health and

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Speaker 2: And you know that's it.

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Speaker 1: For example, teams that were on the postseason bubble, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: more regular season. I'm sure you're upset about that. Blazers,

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Speaker 1: if we feel that it's safe enough to do this

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Speaker 1: that's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Some of you might be concerned of like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: It's like the G League. It's sort of like a

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason that took us twenty two years to hear.

436
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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan calls Scott Barella hoo, time and time again.

437
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

438
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Speaker 1: You got to that a lot more quickly than I

439
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Speaker 1: than I was. So yeah, we're not getting that unfortunately,

440
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Speaker 1: as cool as that would be.

441
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Speaker 7: But I mean, I mean, it's just it's just a

442
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Speaker 7: heavy sensor button. We work in the TV biz. You

443
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Speaker 7: just gotta be ready to slam that button. But there's

444
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Speaker 7: gonna something. There's gonna be a something that slips through

445
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Speaker 7: the cracks. We've seen some some hard f's out there,

446
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Speaker 7: and I'm not talking about uh that that have come

447
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Speaker 7: out of player's mouths. Trey's right, there's uh stuff that

448
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Speaker 7: doesn't want to be hurt. They don't want people to hear,

449
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Speaker 7: that's for sure. But I don't know, Lee, you could

450
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Speaker 7: handle a quick a sensor button, right they hired.

451
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Speaker 4: You, Ah sure, why not? Right now? I mean, try

452
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Speaker 4: everything once, you know, But it's all part of it.

453
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Speaker 4: We're all frustrated, we all letting them fly. It's just yeah,

454
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's all live. So let's just move on

455
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Speaker 4: with it.

456
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Speaker 2: You know, you guys kidding me.

457
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Speaker 1: We we somehow managed to get the ole past in

458
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Speaker 1: this podcast. So I don't know when you got ten

459
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Speaker 1: people more. Really, with all the guys on the bench

460
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Speaker 1: too yelling things out, I think a lot would slip through.

461
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Speaker 1: I think there would be some backlash.

462
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would love it. We would eat

463
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Speaker 2: it up, but maybe not for everybody one thing.

464
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Speaker 5: But you know what's funny is that that that doesn't

465
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Speaker 5: happen in UFC. I mean, it's not a worry. There's

466
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Speaker 5: just not a lot of trash talk. I guess when

467
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Speaker 5: it's one on one it's.

468
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Speaker 1: Not as easy to trash talk your opponent when you're

469
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Speaker 1: getting bashed in the face and you have a mouth

470
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Speaker 1: guard in That's why le almost ever says anything on

471
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Speaker 1: the course.

472
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Speaker 6: Maybe that's the rule.

473
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Speaker 3: We're gonna allow mics on the players, but everybody's gotta

474
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Speaker 3: wear huge mouthguard.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's smart, that's smart.

476
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Speaker 1: At least we can get you know, the sneakers will

477
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Speaker 1: pick up the sneakers sneaking out there or squeaking out

478
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Speaker 1: there one thing with silvery. He did mention on this call,

479
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Speaker 1: reportedly that he prefers to have a full four round,

480
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Speaker 1: seven game per series postseason, so they want the whole thing,

481
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Speaker 1: which leads me to believe really does. And you guys

482
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Speaker 1: were touching on it that we're not getting any more

483
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Speaker 1: regular season, like I mean, we're going that you want that,

484
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Speaker 1: you really want the four round best of seven. Then

485
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine we're getting whatever five six gemes with

486
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Speaker 1: with all thirty teams back and playing when we've already

487
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Speaker 1: heard some of them, you know, Steve Kerr, a couple

488
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Speaker 1: of these organizations say like, Hugh, like, what's the point

489
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Speaker 1: for us?

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Speaker 2: You know, that really isn't.

491
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Speaker 4: That's the sort of point that I'm trying to emphasize here,

492
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Speaker 4: like there are teams already that are like, there is

493
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Speaker 4: no point at all for us to now go and

494
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Speaker 4: play a handful of games here, and again the only

495
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Speaker 4: question is those teams that are a game or whatever

496
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Speaker 4: out of the playoffs being like, well, hang on a minute,

497
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Speaker 4: maybe you know, maybe we could make the playoffs and

498
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Speaker 4: get that extra TV revenue because that's the only revenue

499
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Speaker 4: they're were getting. But it just seems a little bit

500
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Speaker 4: clunky to sort of leave it open like that and

501
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Speaker 4: to say the full four rounds of seven best of seven.

502
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even think they need to address

503
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Speaker 4: that right now, because maybe maybe there's a month of

504
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Speaker 4: basketball there and we're like, you know what, let's just

505
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Speaker 4: make these first two rounds or maybe the first round

506
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Speaker 4: is best of three and five and then seven to

507
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Speaker 4: seven or something like that if they want to, if

508
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Speaker 4: they're that desperate to get some sort of coronation on

509
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Speaker 4: the season, you know, some sort of champion.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the.

511
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Speaker 1: Problem with that is is they want to try and

512
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Speaker 1: legitimize a champion, right I think, yeah, you start going

513
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Speaker 1: on best of three, best of five, that's a five

514
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: Like they're like, but.

515
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Speaker 2: Then you're really hurting your chances. But won't that.

516
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Speaker 4: Be won't that be tough to do anyway if you are,

517
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Speaker 4: you know, not playing every team for the same amount

518
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Speaker 4: of games anyway, and actually having to qualify for the

519
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Speaker 4: playoffs legitimately itself. Do you know what I mean? Like,

520
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Speaker 4: if you're saying, Okay, we want to crown a champion

521
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Speaker 4: and give them, you know, some legitimacy, but you know,

522
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Speaker 4: we didn't let a couple of teams even compete for

523
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Speaker 4: the playoffs under this current scenario right now to even

524
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Speaker 4: get in. I mean, there's there's always gonna be questions,

525
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Speaker 4: and that comes back, well, hold on.

526
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Speaker 1: Hold on, we didn't play twenty games. We played, you know,

527
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Speaker 1: sixty games here. We played enough games. If you're not

528
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Speaker 1: in the postseason, you're out in the postseason, right.

529
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Speaker 4: But again, again, it's like what some teams might say, well,

530
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Speaker 4: we really think that a couple more games and we

531
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Speaker 4: get in, and others might say, well, bad luck, you're out.

532
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Speaker 1: So that goes to exactly what I was saying. That's

533
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Speaker 1: what Silver saying on this call. Tough get ready for it,

534
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Speaker 1: because going to be what's happening here. And I'm sorry Blazers,

535
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Pelicans, I'm sorry Kings.

536
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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

537
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Speaker 1: It's not the perfect scenario, but sorry, tough, tough luck.

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying, and it's not going

539
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Speaker 4: to carry that same legitimacy. Then in my view, if

540
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Speaker 4: you sort of just made that.

541
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Speaker 1: I mean, what the win a championship? You think it

542
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Speaker 1: mattered if the Kings or the Pelicans were in the playoffs.

543
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying like, at this point, if you are deciding,

544
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Speaker 4: well we change the rules to say bad luck whoever

545
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Speaker 4: was in the playoffs, at this point that's in. Then

546
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Speaker 4: we're saying we still want to play best of seven,

547
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Speaker 4: four best of four rounds of best of seven series.

548
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Speaker 4: Then we want to make that part of it legitimate.

549
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Speaker 4: It's like, well, but there was there was questions about

550
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Speaker 4: how we even got to that point of who which

551
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Speaker 4: teams made the playoffs and where they finished in the

552
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Speaker 4: standings as well.

553
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, but I'm saying it's varying degrees, right, I'm

554
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Speaker 1: agreeing with you. I'm saying this is always going to

555
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Speaker 1: have an asterisk on it, but I'm saying it's it's

556
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Speaker 1: a bigger asterisk if suddenly it's like, oh, a best

557
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Speaker 1: of three and a best of five, like it's a

558
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Speaker 1: shorter just this weird condensed playoffs. I think the reasoning

559
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Speaker 1: with the NBA or the league is like, you know,

560
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Speaker 1: and of course the TV revenue is a big part

561
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Speaker 1: of it, and having more games. I get all that,

562
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Speaker 1: but at least it'll feel a little bit like.

563
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Speaker 2: You'll be able to go, oh, that was weird.

564
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: It was like a you know, it was like a

565
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Speaker 1: lockout season, like they only played sixty six games and

566
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Speaker 1: then we had the whole playoffs and well, we don't

567
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Speaker 1: really hold that against Lebron in the heat, right, like

568
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: that was a championship and we all sort of agree

569
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Speaker 1: that was a fair one. He's I guess hoping that

570
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Speaker 1: that would be similar if you played the whole playoffs.

571
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Speaker 2: That's what That's what I'm saying.

572
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Speaker 1: Once you start getting a little cute with it and

573
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Speaker 1: you know, shortening it, I think you're just ramping up

574
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Speaker 1: the whole like, well that was pointless, that doesn't count,

575
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

576
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Speaker 4: Well, no, I know, And again, all these scenarios are flawed,

577
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Speaker 4: Like there's not one that everyone's going to agree on

578
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: and say, yep, that's all. That's all great now. But again,

579
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: you know, if you're going to go basically with a

580
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Speaker 4: potentially four to five month gap in the season and

581
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Speaker 4: then try to finish it off, I just think that's

582
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Speaker 4: that there's no point to that. I think you might

583
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: as well just say, all right, that season, we lost

584
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: that season, and that's it and move on.

585
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: When you bring up the sixty six game season, it

586
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: is nearly identical other than the fact that we called

587
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Speaker 5: it a sixty six game season before the season. Now

588
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: we're calling it a sixty six game season after the season.

589
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 5: Those are really the numbers. I mean, that's where they are.

590
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: The unfortunate part is that there's four teams really in

591
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: the Western Conference East, you're a sub five hundred team

592
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: that's in ninth Wizards. You don't want it. You just

593
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: don't want it. Everybody in the East go home. On

594
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: the Western side, there are four teams in the Blazers, Pelicans, Kings,

595
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Speaker 5: and Spurs that are kind of knocking on the door.

596
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: Elon Musk said, open up the economy. He wants to

597
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: get us to get to Mars. Send those four teams

598
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 5: to Mars, have a play in tournament up there in

599
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 5: the red sand, and make things happen. See what happens

600
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 5: up there, Like those are the only teams and if

601
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Speaker 5: you want it would be weird to have a play

602
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: in tournament, I guess, I mean, that would make it

603
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: far too gimmicky. I think you kind of just got

604
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 5: to cut the line at sixteen and say Pels, Blazers,

605
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 5: Spurs's time to go home.

606
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Speaker 1: I think that that's what's going to happen if we

607
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: if we do get basketball back, I think we go

608
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: right to the playoffs with a three to six week

609
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: training camp.

610
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 5: Basically, what color is the ground on Mars, red planet. Yeah, yeah,

611
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: I mean it's red. Yeah, it was the sand red.

612
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so orangey brown. Have you seen have

613
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: you seen the Martian.

614
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 8: Terra Cotta Yes, in the Martian Yeah, yeah, I mean

615
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 8: that's actually well that's actually filmed at in Jordan, at

616
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Speaker 8: at Wadi Rum there, so it's a you know, ORANGEI brown.

617
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Speaker 5: It's not it's not red yeah, I mean.

618
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a red.

619
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Speaker 6: Dirt and like you said, it is filmed on Earth.

620
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Speaker 1: So we keep fluctuating from podcast to podcast when we

621
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: sit down to talk about the restarting of the season,

622
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: from being pessimistic to maybe it happening to being optimistic.

623
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Speaker 1: Sounds like Lee, you're very pessimistic, or you at least

624
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: think they should call it. Okay, that's fine. Task you

625
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: sound a little bit more optimistic that there will be

626
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: a finishing to the twenty nineteen twenty season, right or

627
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

628
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: I guess I'm wagering on it. I'm not Michael Jordan

629
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: wagering on it, but I'd be wagering on it.

630
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

631
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: And Trey, I mean, where do you officially stand as

632
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: of May eleventh?

633
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Here?

634
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Are you more pessimistic or optimistic that we get some

635
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: closure to this season.

636
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 6: Call me realistic.

637
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: I think we're going to get closure to this season.

638
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: I think players are going to be at risk when

639
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: it happens. But we're going to be seeing NBA basketball

640
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: this year.

641
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that's where I'm at too, And it's going to

642
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: go very very late into the summer. And I think

643
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: there's going to be a very very short off season

644
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: until we fire up the twenty twenty one season in

645
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: likely late December. I don't think there will be a

646
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: whole big gap there. So JD start looking at the calendar.

647
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Start booking your well I was going to say trips

648
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: to somewhere, but you can't go anywhere, So just start

649
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: booking your time off. Okay, great, okay, yeah, probably in

650
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: November something like.

651
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: That, my birthday.

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Speaker 6: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there I go.

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Speaker 1: All right, next headline here, let's keep him moving. Bleacher

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Speaker 1: Report this one. Whoa quote Kevin Durant's not coming back

656
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Speaker 1: to the Nets this year if they play end quote.

657
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Speaker 1: Wolah says it's not happening. We were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Nets chances on a beach step in episode of

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Speaker 1: Like Wow, you imagine Katie and Kerry came back, would

660
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Speaker 1: they beat the Raptors? How far could they go? Woah

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Speaker 1: says it's pipe dream, It's not happening. What do you

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Speaker 1: guys think?

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Speaker 6: Honestly? I mean, this is the smart way to play it.

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Speaker 3: Who knows when this season will actually come back, but

665
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Speaker 3: there's no reason at all to hurry Kevin Durant back

666
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Speaker 3: just to try and steal a championship, which is unlikely

667
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Speaker 3: in the first place. It's gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: when he actually does come back, because is he gonna

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Speaker 3: be the first guy to really really come back from

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Speaker 3: an achilles injury and get near the level he was before?

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Speaker 3: You know, DeMarcus Cousins was gone for a while. He

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Speaker 3: looked good when he came back, but then he tore

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Speaker 3: a quad muscle. He tore an acl all in the

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Speaker 3: same leg. Was he ever one hundred percent healthy? Should

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Speaker 3: he have been playing in the NBA at that point?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, guys like Kobe came back he was at

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Speaker 3: the end of his career, but didn't come back with

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Speaker 3: the same explosion.

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Speaker 6: Same with Rudy Gay, same with Wes Matthews.

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Speaker 3: These are all recent cases where the guys came back

682
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Speaker 3: and they had a little bit more of an old

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Speaker 3: man game. Kevin Durant's going to be an excellent player

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Speaker 3: still when he has to play with an old man game.

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Speaker 3: But will it be right away? I don't know, but

686
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Speaker 3: there's no reason to really chance it at this point,

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed that there was a little misunderstanding though,

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Speaker 4: I guess between the general manager, Sean Marks and Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 4: because Sean Marks, I think, was alluding to the fact

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Speaker 4: that perhaps he would be able to play. He wouldn't

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Speaker 4: rule it out. He went on an interview with Grant

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Speaker 4: Chapman of news Hub there. But then you know, I

694
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Speaker 4: was just saying there's no way he's coming back, and

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Speaker 4: that was basically the message the Nets had sent out

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Speaker 4: all season anyway. You know, Kevin Durant's not playing, not playing,

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Speaker 4: So perhaps Sean Marks and the medical team there in

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Speaker 4: Brooklyn had said, look, he's you know, looking great, he's

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Speaker 4: ready to move. Sean Marks alluded to the fact that,

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Speaker 4: you know, he was looking good in those drills that

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Speaker 4: he was doing and the practicing, so perhaps he you know,

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Speaker 4: he misspoke somewhat because I would be very very surprised

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Speaker 4: if Kevin Durant was going to play in this proposed

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Speaker 4: possible scenario that that might happen in a month or

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Speaker 4: two time anyway. So I'm a little surprised that schul

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Speaker 4: Marks didn't just sort of completely rule it out at

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Speaker 4: the time. But now you know, there's there's just no

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Speaker 4: point in bringing Durand back for again a potentially intense

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Speaker 4: playoff run. You want him to come back, I think

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Speaker 4: next season, when he's had more time to get himself

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Speaker 4: ready and can ease into the season a little bit,

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Speaker 4: rather than going into, you know, a high intense environment.

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Speaker 6: You know who.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, I was going to you

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Speaker 5: know Who's not intense you because you're just chilling with

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Speaker 5: that lead l.

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Speaker 4: I could hear it could I was about to unload.

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Speaker 4: I just wasn't sure whose house it was. That No,

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Speaker 4: it's not mine.

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Speaker 3: Lit on Monday maintenance, Nice Monday, Cavendar.

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Speaker 5: I would think he's not coming back. But the question

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Speaker 5: is did he learn anything more about his body when

723
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Speaker 5: he after coming back with the Golden State Warriors. Is

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Speaker 5: there something that he possibly is more educated about that

725
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Speaker 5: he knows that he wouldn't injure himself, like or is

726
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Speaker 5: it just happenstance or was that just too quick? Maybe

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Speaker 5: he knows that he can come back, and maybe what

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Speaker 5: Iron Eagle said that NETS broadcaster said a few weeks

729
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Speaker 5: ago that if they don't start the next season until

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Speaker 5: December twenty fifth, he'd be out twenty months, and maybe

731
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Speaker 5: he doesn't want to wait that long. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: really up to KD and how he feels about his body,

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Speaker 5: because it ain't shown Mark's decision. It ain't wo just decisions,

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Speaker 5: it's just his. And so if he doesn't want to

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Speaker 5: wait twenty months, maybe they feel like they can go

736
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Speaker 5: steal a ship. But I would I would lean towards

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Speaker 5: him not coming back. And it's sort of being like

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Speaker 5: the Warrior scenario, like why do you want to go

739
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Speaker 5: out there full and just not really have enough warm

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Speaker 5: up games to feel it out.

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Speaker 1: The NBA would likely you said it. Their tasks have

742
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Speaker 1: the ability really more than anything, because there would be

743
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Speaker 1: no travel to condense the schedule too, right, like to

744
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Speaker 1: get as many games in sort of as.

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Speaker 2: Quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you'd want to do that or

747
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Speaker 1: risk it even more with a guy coming back from injury,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the possibility of playing You know, Okay,

749
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Speaker 1: they're not playing back to backs. I get that they're

750
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Speaker 1: not doing double headers or anything, but you know they are.

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Speaker 1: They would, in theory, would be playing every second day.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I think that makes the most sense

753
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Speaker 1: and would be capable to do so. But a guy

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Speaker 1: coming back from Achilles' injury, no reason to throw them

755
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Speaker 1: right into the fire there. I don't care how healthy is.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. I mean I was worried as

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Speaker 1: a Raptor Sam when we were talking about this hypothetical

758
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Speaker 1: on beach stepping, like, oh God, Katie's gonna come back

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Speaker 1: and get revenge on the wraps if the season picks up.

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Speaker 1: But if w was says he's not coming back that,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty confident that he's not. Let's put it

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Speaker 1: that way too. We'll just talk to the agent, let's say,

763
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Speaker 1: and you lock that in. He ain't coming back, So

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Speaker 1: I guess good news for Raptors fan.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me jump in there. When you talk

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Speaker 5: about the condensed schedule and you talk about July and

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Speaker 5: August when we were all yearning for sports, yep, the

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Speaker 5: player's health far more that is the most important thing.

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Speaker 5: It's far more important than any games. But if we

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Speaker 5: get games and they're playing every second day and they

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Speaker 5: can play throughout the day as I imagine they would,

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Speaker 5: there would never be overlap. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think we're so basically you want like March Madness

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Speaker 1: style it up.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what we would get without even any

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Speaker 5: overlap like you get in March Madness. I think you

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Speaker 5: would just go quadruple header to start every day like

778
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Speaker 5: we get on the Saturday Sunday. Why the heck not.

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Speaker 5: It's laid on thick. There's going to be a lot

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Speaker 5: of bum time on the couch. They were getting like

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Speaker 5: ten hours back to back to back to back.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: It's better we better ramp up our workout schedule right

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Speaker 1: now if we're gonna be watching a lot of basketball

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Speaker 1: in theory come July. Well, yeah, maybe we've got a

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Speaker 1: Okay, a couple more. I don't think these are gonna

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Speaker 1: take all that long. Chicago Sun Times headline read several

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Speaker 1: key Bulls players making Jim Boylan's future as coach cloudy Trey.

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Speaker 1: Would you think when you read this headline.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, cloudy with a chance of boiling Huh? If Jim

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Speaker 3: Boylan is coaching the Bulls at the beginning of next season,

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Speaker 3: then Carnaiavius and Mark Eversley should quit because then they

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Speaker 3: have zero control. There's no way that they want Jim

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Speaker 6: That the Rhines Dwarf.

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Speaker 3: The Rhines Dwarfs, as well as former vice president of

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Speaker 3: basketball Operations John Paxson, would like Boylan to stay. They

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Speaker 3: want somebody who's gonna be in the locker room, who

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Speaker 3: is giving them feedback on what's actually happening in the

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Speaker 3: guy for a coach. The man is thirty nine and

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Speaker 3: Jim Boyling around besides the fact that he's already there.

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Speaker 4: And it says in that article as well that not

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Speaker 4: only would they like to keep boiling, they have told

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Speaker 4: him so. I mean, that's just beyond crazy. If you

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Speaker 4: like the ownership and the sort of unemployed sort of advisor,

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Speaker 4: John Paxson is telling the coach, oh, we want you

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Speaker 4: to come back. I mean, isn't that just completely undermining

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Speaker 4: the authority of the general manager and the president. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I just fired Jim Boiling and say no, I'm calling

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Speaker 4: the shots here. This is what you employed me to do.

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Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't have taken this job if I

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Speaker 4: then what the hell is the point of him even

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Speaker 4: being there? It just makes no sense at all to me.

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Speaker 4: So I think I think, you know, the strong coronavirus

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Speaker 4: just insane to me that that stuff. Not only have

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Speaker 4: they told boil And according to this article, but it's

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Speaker 4: leaked out. That is just crazy.

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Speaker 5: So well, on the record, they're saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 5: we'll evaluate it later, but you're saying behind the scenes

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Speaker 5: that it they've given him a vote of confidence.

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Speaker 4: Well that's what according to this article, this is the

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Speaker 4: line here. You know, things might be staying vague for

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Speaker 4: a reason. The Sun Times has learned that the Rhinsdorf

871
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Speaker 4: as well as former Vice president of Basketball Operation John Paxson,

872
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Speaker 4: now senior advisor, would like Boiling to stay and have

873
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Speaker 4: told him so. I mean that to me is just like,

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Speaker 4: don't worry, You'll be fine. You're not getting fired. You're

875
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Speaker 4: getting at least one season out of Kannichievs. You know,

876
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm reading. And if I'm Carnichivsts, I would

877
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Speaker 4: be fuming that that's already been reported. And again I

878
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Speaker 4: would automatically right now just basically put down my like,

879
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Speaker 4: throw my authority on the ground and say he's fired.

880
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Speaker 4: He's out because I made that decision. That's my job.

881
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Speaker 5: Yeah, looks like John and Jerry aren't on the same

882
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Speaker 5: page as Art Touris and Mark Double J's aren't dealing

883
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Speaker 5: aren't dealing well with am.

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Speaker 1: Final headline NBC Sports rumor Jeff Van Gundy could replace

885
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Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni as Rockets coach.

886
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Speaker 5: When I first read this, I wonder this is about

887
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: the top of the Rockets roster.

888
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Speaker 6: Right.

889
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: It sure feels like Mike D'Antoni is on his way out,

890
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Speaker 5: but James Harden is going to be around, Russell Westbrook's

891
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 5: going to be around now. The article says, barring a

892
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Speaker 5: championship coming to Houston, Mike D'Antoni is done, which is

893
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: a bit strange. He is the coach of the MVP

894
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Speaker 5: or former MVP. I guess we should say for a

895
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Speaker 5: couple of years ago in James Harden, they seem to

896
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Speaker 5: be getting along. They seem to have adopted a system

897
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Speaker 5: that is working with the personnel that they have. But

898
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Speaker 5: can somebody get a little bit more out of him,

899
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 5: maybe more of a hardline guy like Jeff Van Gundy.

900
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Speaker 5: And I just I kind of sit back and think,

901
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: is James hardly going to respond to a hardline guy

902
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: like that? But maybe Jeff Fan Gundy isn't that hard.

903
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 5: Maybe that that crusty old demeanor we get on broadcasts

904
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Speaker 5: isn't Jeff Van Gundy. And that's what I think. I

905
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Speaker 5: think he is sort of in between that he has

906
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Speaker 5: been a coach, he has gotten oe to coach USA

907
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 5: basketball the last few years, a little bit on the

908
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Speaker 5: international scene, and maybe he's only crusty just because he's

909
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 5: not in the ideal job for him, which is head

910
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 5: coach of a basketball team. And you know, it really

911
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 5: stinks for Mike D'Antonio. But if they want to change

912
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 5: your voice in there, maybe Jeff Fvan Gundy's and al right.

913
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Speaker 4: Choice, I personally would love Van Gundy to go to

914
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: the Rockets and Mark Jackson to go to the Knicks,

915
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Speaker 4: because that means we get Mike Brandon Doris on the

916
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Speaker 4: ABC Primetime Ballcut broadcast. That'd be great. Yeah, this would

917
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: be an odd move to me to see Jeff Fan

918
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Speaker 4: Gundy go back there. I think he had some success

919
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Speaker 4: with the Knicks and the Rockets when he was coach,

920
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Speaker 4: But I just you know that from the demeanor that

921
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Speaker 4: he has on broadcast now, it doesn't seem like he

922
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: wants to take on a more stressful job. And for

923
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Speaker 4: a Rockets team that has been close, you know, they

924
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 4: should have knocked off the Warriors a couple of years ago.

925
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: I just don't think he's the right choice for that.

926
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Speaker 4: I think you need someone a bit younger, bit fresh,

927
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: and more in touch with the game and the players

928
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: and how they react. It would be you know, it

929
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: would never happen, of course, but I would love to

930
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: see how Phil Jackson, if he was still able to coach,

931
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: to go into that Rockets team and see if he

932
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Speaker 4: can have some success with Westbrook and Harden because you know,

933
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: he had success with Pippen and Jordan. He was able

934
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Speaker 4: to get Shaq and Kobe over the line as well,

935
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Speaker 4: so you know he might be the one who can communicate.

936
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Speaker 4: But I think we've seen from the Last Dance documentary

937
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: that feels not in really any shape to be going

938
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Speaker 4: back to as an NBA coach. I wouldn't think.

939
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Speaker 3: It makes me wonder just how long Darryl Mority would

940
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: actually be staying in Houston if this is the case.

941
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: Samy Mick points out that Maury at one point wanted

942
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: Jeff van Gundy to coach the Rockets before Dan Toni

943
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: was hired. But it feels very strange that Jeff van

944
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: van Gundy would come in and as a defensive guy

945
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: and want to coach a small ball team, Like can

946
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Speaker 3: you imagine him coaching a team that doesn't have a

947
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: center who's seven foot one?

948
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's true, especially after they got

949
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: rid of the one guy that was the center on

950
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: exactly on the roster in Capella.

951
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 7: Yeah.

952
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think we can all agree, and we've

953
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: talked about it before that Mike D'Antoni is not going

954
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: to be there, so it's going to be a new

955
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: coach and whether Mary is still there to pick that coach.

956
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: That's TVD.

957
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: But with that, with the contract negotiations, the divide between

958
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: that D'Antoni and the Rockets, it does, and Amic is

959
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: quoted as saying, you know, it's a you know, that

960
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: bridge has basically been burnt for the most part. Never

961
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: say never, he says, But it seems like they're just

962
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: mutually agreeing to say, all right, well, we're going to

963
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: go our separate ways. And I still have been thrown

964
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: out the idea of D'Antoni trying to coach KD and

965
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: Kyrie in Brooklyn if they ultimately pick a new head coach,

966
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: which we think they will, unless Jaquan is the man

967
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: they roll with, so we'll see Jef Van Gunny back

968
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: in Houston.

969
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: It'd be weird. I mean, I sort of like it.

970
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just because we're watching the

971
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Last Dance and we're just like reliving like the nineties

972
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but uh, you know, I love

973
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: the idea of just running back things for nostalgia reasons,

974
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, why not just throw Van Gunny back on

975
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: the Rockets and uh yeah, different team of course there's

976
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: no McGrady or yell Ming. But okay, we got Westbrook

977
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Speaker 1: and Hard. Let's see what happens Westbrook, I guess. I

978
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Speaker 1: guess Hard it would be the McGrady and Westbrook would

979
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: be the Yao ming in that weird comparison.

980
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Interesting, right, I think?

981
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: So? Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard to say either of

982
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 4: them is the yao ming really.

983
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Speaker 2: But uh PJ. Tuckers the yell Ming?

984
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah mighty, yeah, yeah, So let's see, we'll see.

985
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all the all this coaching headlines

986
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: and rumors and news or if it's not news, I

987
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's all up in the air just

988
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: because we have no damn season. We don't even know

989
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: if we're playing this season and when.

990
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: At this point, they're just firing for who's going to

991
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: be best In a zoom meeting? Who do you want

992
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: to see show up with a funny background behind him? Well?

993
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

994
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: Uh see, I think Dan Tony would have a funny

995
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: zoom behind him. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, much more likely than

996
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Van Gundy or even like like Boiling doesn't even know

997
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: how to use zoo.

998
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 6: I would think, yeah, it never has this camera on.

999
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think now, which coach would be

1000
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: the best on zoom?

1001
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1002
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that No Dunk sag?

1003
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: Which coach would be the best at zoom? And who

1004
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: would be the worst?

1005
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: Nick n would be the best because you'd have the

1006
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: guitar there. It'd just be stroking away, you know, not

1007
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 4: really his mark's been not muted.

1008
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: Is is Pop good at zoom? Or is he horrible

1009
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: at zoom? Does he hate zoom?

1010
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: Well, he hides it, you know, he hides it. But

1011
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: that might be that might be why he's good.

1012
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like the three pointer never wanted to spurs the

1013
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 6: shoot threes, but they had to do it. Well, I

1014
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 6: don't want to look like I'm in the louver, but

1015
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Speaker 6: I downloaded the picture for you guys.

1016
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: Well, let's call it there. Let us know which coach

1017
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: would be the best and worst at zoom at No

1018
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: Dunk Sinc. We got a brand new Squad episode coming

1019
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: for you on Tuesday. We are going to build the

1020
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: ultimate nineteen nineties time capsule, all right, because of the

1021
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Last Dance. We're living in the nineties right now. We've

1022
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Speaker 1: revisited that era, so we thought it would fund there's

1023
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: a great suggestion from a fan out there to build

1024
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Speaker 1: the ultimate nineties time capsule. I'm talking about movies and

1025
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: singles and fads and stuff like that. This is gonna

1026
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: be one where everybody's gonna have a strong opinion about.

1027
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to draft our Nineties Squad episode.

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Speaker 1: That's tomorrow on Tuesday in the meantime Club Rose.

1029
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Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 6: love you guys awesome.

1031
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Speaker 5: Thanks for alading us, and remember don't get caught stroking

1032
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Speaker 5: it on.

1033
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Speaker 2: Zoo by people.

1034
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Speaker 3: You could stay every day, my dad, you happy every minute.

1035
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Speaker 4: It's been so long that your do monna waiting for.

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Speaker 5: It happened already. It's gonna be good me