Speaker 1: The numbers told the story and they always done. It's
Speaker 1: one of those idiots will believe in analytics. This is
Speaker 1: a numbers game with Gil Alexander, gone vis in Good
Speaker 1: Monday Morning two. It is a numbers game at Visa,
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Speaker 1: It is a numbers game guessing lines for week number.
Speaker 1: What we had eleven eleven in the National Footballay, I
Speaker 1: can't hear you, man, can't hear you? My ears? You
Speaker 1: up there? Oh? No, there it is Kelly Bidlin. Everybody,
Speaker 1: Week eleven is what we're gonna do here on the show.
Speaker 1: It's Gil Alexander. That is the voice of Kelly Bidlin,
Speaker 1: producer number nine, so much more than a producer. How's
Speaker 1: your weekend? Man? Good? Yeah? It was okay, Circle million.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's done. You're done, ze, I think, So
Speaker 1: what do you do on three and one? How about you?
Speaker 1: I'm having a dream season? Man, who you want to roll? Recently?
Speaker 1: I'm on Fire three and one, Bill's pending tonight fourteen
Speaker 1: and one run on the megapod and were it need
Speaker 1: fourteen and one? Dude? If it were not for that
Speaker 1: oh to five and millions, I'd be somebody. But I
Speaker 1: had and five. Yeah, and I had the to five
Speaker 1: week five, which is the beginning of a quarterly. So
Speaker 1: like it's that couldn't have been time more poorly. I
Speaker 1: went to one and four that same week. We both
Speaker 1: did terrible that week. Yeah. That suck. It always sucks
Speaker 1: to start off a quarter bat. Yeah. And for those
Speaker 1: who are just tuning in again for guessing lines, let
Speaker 1: me just say that this is the exercise that has
Speaker 1: worked out splendidly. Yes, as with any NFL betting success,
Speaker 1: the balls have to bounce your way on the on
Speaker 1: the plinko games, and so that has definitely happened this year.
Speaker 1: That's the thing Kelly too. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: am I any better this year than it was last year?
Speaker 1: Just that tho the plinko games have gone my way? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you have to be you have to be
Speaker 1: honest about that at times with us, and certainly at
Speaker 1: all times with the National Football League. But this is
Speaker 1: the exercise that has led us to those wins, and
Speaker 1: it really is a first reaction. I'm in a cocoon.
Speaker 1: I don't know the lines. We'll go through every game
Speaker 1: that happened yesterday. I will guess what I think the
Speaker 1: line should be for a Week eleven matchup, Kelly will
Speaker 1: tell me what they actually are, and within that exercise
Speaker 1: we hope to extract value. That's the point of all
Speaker 1: of this, and man has it worked out in spades
Speaker 1: thus far this year. First, a Survivor update for those
Speaker 1: still alive and Survivor a Circus Survivor. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think Steve Feszick is going to be in the
Speaker 1: lead or a half game out in Circum Millions after
Speaker 1: Week ten. But in Circus Survivor, a contest that started
Speaker 1: with nine two hundred and sixty seven entries at one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a pop, meaning a nine point two six
Speaker 1: seven million dollar pot, four hundred and seventy five of
Speaker 1: the remaining eleven hundred and fifty three got knocked out yesterday,
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty two of which were on the Bengals,
Speaker 1: or as Matt Brown calls them, the Bengals, or as
Speaker 1: one of those announcers calls them, the Bengals. No one
Speaker 1: can seem to get it right anyway, four and twenty
Speaker 1: two out on them alone four in seventy five total,
Speaker 1: So that brings the initial nine thousand, two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven pool down to six hundred and seventy eight.
Speaker 1: Who six to it now? Well, I mean last year
Speaker 1: there was only eighty six left, so ninety two point
Speaker 1: six eight percent have been knocked out this year so far.
Speaker 1: Last year was ninety eight point six percent. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: There were only eighty six left at this point last year,
Speaker 1: but six hundred and seventy eight left this year. The
Speaker 1: intrinsic value of each moves up to thirteen thoy, six
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight dollars and fourteen cents. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: everybody who's still alive. Obviously, we got games coming up
Speaker 1: this Sunday, followed right by the Thanksgiving three game fest
Speaker 1: in Circus Survivor, where that acts as its own week.
Speaker 1: So good luck to all the remaining who have the
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy eight, some of whom still have
Speaker 1: ten entries left, by the way, all ten they've been
Speaker 1: shoving on each each and every one of these weeks,
Speaker 1: so good luck to all those folks. Let us begin
Speaker 1: with the Thursday night game and we'll try to extract
Speaker 1: some value on week eleven. That's what this is all about.
Speaker 1: What do you got? We got the open first day
Speaker 1: lines here we go Monday, butter fuck you would think
Speaker 1: one of these weeks I'd be like, oh, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: an open to this Thursday night, the big one. Bengals
Speaker 1: at Ravens. Oh, we got a great Thursday night. Know,
Speaker 1: we really do. As opposed to that drek we saw
Speaker 1: last week, It's like these two teams were looking ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Cincinnati had Baltimore Cincinnati. We just talked about how
Speaker 1: they crushed survivor players. Boy boy, was that a rollercoaster
Speaker 1: of a game opening drive yesterday against the Texans. Sixty
Speaker 1: yard drive Borrow to Trenton Irwin from thirty two yards
Speaker 1: out seven and I think Cincinnati. Then after a trade
Speaker 1: of puntch Houston had it all the way down fourth
Speaker 1: and won at the Cincinnati nine. They fumbled the snap
Speaker 1: and they failed to convert at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarter. So everything going Cincinnati is a way in
Speaker 1: the first But then after a Cincinnati three and out,
Speaker 1: Houston goes sixty six yards Stroud to Dell Tank Dell.
Speaker 1: What a find from six out seven to seven with
Speaker 1: ten thirty three left in the second quarter. Then the
Speaker 1: Bengals would have two three and outs the rest of
Speaker 1: the half, while Houston drive would be stopped on a
Speaker 1: strip sack of Stroud by Logan will and Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 1: on third and six at the Cincinnati thirty one Mike
Speaker 1: Hilton recovering. So it'll be ten seven Houston at the half.
Speaker 1: So think about that. Houston's up only three at the half.
Speaker 1: But yet they've had two deep penetrations into Cincinnati territory
Speaker 1: that ended up in turnovers. Second half one hundred by
Speaker 1: the way, at halftime, one hundred and ninety eight yards
Speaker 1: passing for CJ. Stroud. It's almost like the Panther should
Speaker 1: have picked him first. Still so angry about the NFL
Speaker 1: draft betting, SEEJ is Stroud By the way, we'll get
Speaker 1: to this. Not only is he now the ridiculous prohibitive
Speaker 1: favorite for Rookie of the Year, it's it's not even
Speaker 1: a market anymore, but down to thirty to one in
Speaker 1: some spots for MVP. Here's the thing. If you do
Speaker 1: the blind resume test, he could very well be the MVP.
Speaker 1: The problem is we have stupid, flawed human brains and
Speaker 1: they're not gonna They're not gonna make him MVP on
Speaker 1: top of Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: It's just too easy. It's like when we talk about
Speaker 2: with the offensive Player of the year. Sometimes it's so
Speaker 2: easy to give him Rookie of the Year and give
Speaker 2: a Tyreek Hill and Christian McCaffrey offensive player of the year,
Speaker 2: and then they go with the worst Alish quarterback.
Speaker 1: We're a stupid species, is what we worked all right.
Speaker 1: Second half of this ball game ten to seven is
Speaker 1: where it is at the half opening drive matt Amadula
Speaker 1: twenty two yard field goal after Woods was called for
Speaker 1: illegal touching on a would be touchdown pass from Stroud,
Speaker 1: which survived review. That was another one where they could
Speaker 1: have had more points and they didn't get it. They
Speaker 1: settle for the field goal. Thirteen to seven Houston nine
Speaker 1: twenty six left, third quarter, and then after Cincinnati three
Speaker 1: and out, Houston goes sixty yards, spurred by a forty
Speaker 1: two yard PI where they just completely ran over Dell.
Speaker 1: Two plays later, Singletary in from six out, twenty to
Speaker 1: seven Houston seven oh eight left at the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati survivor players are like, oh no, Now
Speaker 1: it's twenty to ten after a McPherson fifty yard field
Speaker 1: goal after Houston three and out, though Cincinnati goes seventy
Speaker 1: three yards. Burrow on a scramble beautiful sixty four yard
Speaker 1: touchdown passed that chase on a dime twenty to seventeen
Speaker 1: Houston ten seconds left in the third, and the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: survivor players were like, yes, this is gonna happen after all. Noope.
Speaker 1: Ensuing drive, Houston go seventy five yards on six plays,
Speaker 1: Stroud in from eight twenty seven to seventeen Houston twelve
Speaker 1: forty seven to go. Following drives, Cincinnati matriculates, and here's
Speaker 1: where it gets really weird. For Bro, We've replaced your
Speaker 1: normal Joe Burrow with a cheap imitation because Burrow then
Speaker 1: overthrows a pass picked by DeAndre Houston Carson nine thirty
Speaker 1: five to go. Then after another Houston pun Cincinnati matriculates
Speaker 1: again first and one at the thirteen of Houston Burrow
Speaker 1: picked by Shaquille Griffin. One of the worst passes you'll
Speaker 1: ever see. Joe Burrow, uh, you know, actually throw three
Speaker 1: fifty three to go. Bengals are on death's door at
Speaker 1: this point, but then Stroud on third and two at
Speaker 1: their own twenty eight three forty one to go, picked
Speaker 1: by Cam Taylor britt return to the fourth. It's only
Speaker 1: Stroud's second pick of the year that leads to a
Speaker 1: mix and one yard score twenty seven to twenty four
Speaker 1: Houston three eighteen to go, but Cincinnati only has one
Speaker 1: time out left, so with no timeouts left for Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: all Houston had to do was convert a third and
Speaker 1: three to ice it with two twenty six remaining, but
Speaker 1: a three and out instead. Cincinnati gets the ball back
Speaker 1: down three two ten to go at their own twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Second play of the drive, Burrow to Boyd for sixty
Speaker 1: four mostly yak first and goal at the Houston seven
Speaker 1: with one fifty three to go. The Cincinnati survivor players
Speaker 1: are like, we're gonna do this, but a sack then
Speaker 1: Burrow for only one. Then Boyd drops a would be
Speaker 1: touchdown pass right through his hands. They settle for the
Speaker 1: first and thirty one yard field goal with one thirty
Speaker 1: three to go. Way too much time fors drought five
Speaker 1: plays to get from their own twenty five into field
Speaker 1: goal range. Matt Ammondola off the streets through the uprights
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards, the first of five walkoffs of the day.
Speaker 1: Thirty to twenty seven. Houston and the Cincinnati Survivor players
Speaker 1: are done. So Burrow twenty seven to forty for three
Speaker 1: forty seven, two touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked four times,
Speaker 1: Chase five for one to twenty four in a touch
Speaker 1: Boyd eight for one seventeen. They gave up five hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four total yards to Houston. And then there's Baltimore,
Speaker 1: which this game started against the Browns, like every Baltimore
Speaker 1: game seems to second play at the game from scrimmage,
Speaker 1: second and six at their own twenty nine, thirty four
Speaker 1: seconds into the game, DeShawn picked by Kyle Hamilton to
Speaker 1: the house eighteen yards, seven to nothing Baltimore. Then after
Speaker 1: Cleveland punt, Baltimore goes seventy nine yards. Cayden Mitchell in
Speaker 1: from thirty nine. Man, is he fast? Fourteen to nothing Baltimore,
Speaker 1: ten oh eight left in the first quarter. We're not
Speaker 1: even five minute. It's in and Baltimore's doing it again. Yep,
Speaker 1: they're running away with a children come out this story
Speaker 1: with four ten. Yeah, they're not fourteen to three now.
Speaker 1: Lamar to Mitchell for thirty two. The big play that
Speaker 1: leads to a Tucker thirty seven yard field goals seventeen
Speaker 1: to three, now seventeen to six. Tucker fifty five yard
Speaker 1: field goal tried blocked by Jordan Elliott Anthony Walker with
Speaker 1: the return to fourteen left in the second quarter, seventeen
Speaker 1: to nine. Now, by the way, fifty two seconds left
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, First intended their own thirty six
Speaker 1: Lamar picked by Mike Ford on either a severely underthrown
Speaker 1: ball or a miscommunication, but Cleveland can't capitalize, so it
Speaker 1: remained seventeen to nine at the half. There were so
Speaker 1: many times when we thought Baltimore was just gonna win
Speaker 1: this game. There was a There was one of them
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, I'm still seventeen to nine. Second
Speaker 1: half opening drive, Baltimore goes seventy eight yards Lamar to
Speaker 1: obj mostly Yack for forty twenty four to nine. Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna coast Nope. Seventeen play, seventy five yard
Speaker 1: drive that took ten minutes and nine seconds for Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Hunt in from three, Watson two point conversion. It's twenty
Speaker 1: four to seventeen Baltimore to twenty left three quarter. Third quarter,
Speaker 1: Browns would then force a punt down just seven, but
Speaker 1: James proshe muffs it, recovered by Devin Duverne, aided by
Speaker 1: a couple defensive holds. Gus eventually in from one thirty
Speaker 1: one to seventeen. Baltimore with eleven thirty four to go again.
Speaker 1: You're like guys, like a third time. Baltimore is clearly
Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Noupe. Cleveland goes seventy five yards
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty four. Baltimore now Watson to Elijah
Speaker 1: Moore from ten out eight fifty seven left. By the
Speaker 1: way Stefanski went for one new analytics, folks, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't do the old eight to six thing there.
Speaker 1: Then ensuing drives, second played Lamore picked by Greg Newsom,
Speaker 1: off a high deflection to the house thirty one thirty,
Speaker 1: but Hopkins misses the pat. Baltimore is gonna get lucky
Speaker 1: and win this again. Nope, Baltimore forced to punt. Cleveland
Speaker 1: gets it back with four to fifty five to go
Speaker 1: down one fourth play of the drive, first intend at
Speaker 1: their own thirty one. Browns then survive Dafe o Way
Speaker 1: stripsack of Watson when offensive lineman Wyatt Teller recovers it.
Speaker 1: Remember Kelly, we never remember those moments. Fumble luck, then
Speaker 1: seventeen to Cooper on the next play at Deshawn's sixteen
Speaker 1: yard run two plays later, and ultimately a Hopkins walk
Speaker 1: off forty yard field goal to win at thirty three
Speaker 1: thirty one Cleveland in improbable fashion. Lamar finishes with only
Speaker 1: thirteen completed forward passes thirteen of twenty three for two
Speaker 1: twenty three, one touchdown, two picks, sack three times, eight
Speaker 1: cars of forty one. What a game Thursday night this
Speaker 1: will be? I said, Baltimore minus three just made it
Speaker 1: the field goal. I didn't know what else to make it.
Speaker 1: We are so that was the look ahead. It's out
Speaker 1: to three and a half at DraftKings, you could shop
Speaker 1: around three and a half or four is where this
Speaker 1: game is sitting at right now. They gave him the hook, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gave him a hook. We don't really know which
Speaker 1: one of these, which one of these teams will looked
Speaker 1: worse yesterday. I guess Cincinnati. I'll tell you what. Lamar
Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow didn't advance their MVP candidacies very much. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. All right, that's Thursday night. We'll get
Speaker 1: to Sunday guessing lines. It's a numbers game, at least
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Speaker 1: It's skill. Alexander Kelly Bidlin guessing lines for Week eleven,
Speaker 1: live from bar Canada at the d we get tweets
Speaker 1: at beating the book straight. A couple here, Chris sells
Speaker 1: at ct sales Gil what a Survivor roller coaster. I
Speaker 1: was going to take Cincinnati, but I switched to Baltimore
Speaker 1: for three quarters. I was thinking I'm a genius. Baltimore
Speaker 1: will win and Cincinnati will lose. After the game, I
Speaker 1: didn't watch another second of football today. I woke up
Speaker 1: feeling like I've lost my best friend. Yeah, losing your
Speaker 1: survivor entry late is about as brutal as it gets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you start to feel it, you start to taste it,
Speaker 1: guys like me come on the air every weekend. They're
Speaker 1: like intrinsic value thirteen thousand, you know, and then it
Speaker 1: goes away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Survivor even more than Millions. But that's
Speaker 2: a little bit how I'm feeling today too. This is
Speaker 2: I didn't have a horrible betting weekend, but because Millions
Speaker 2: went so bad after, like, you know, I had been
Speaker 2: cruising and it's just been so bad in the past
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, You're like, Oh, what a good if.
Speaker 1: You had told me before the season, You're like, Gil,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You're gonna just go craps out on
Speaker 1: Survivor early, but you're actually gonna be in it in
Speaker 1: Millions close to Thanksgiving. I'd be like, you're talking to
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. You're completely talking to the wrong guy.
Speaker 1: This is from Andy ve Andy Vigel says, Gill and Kelly.
Speaker 1: Do you guys feel it in the air, the autumn air,
Speaker 1: the brown and red leaves, the Christmas lights going up,
Speaker 1: the eggnog for sale, and of course Baseball Awards a
Speaker 1: week Oh yeah, good forget Andy's Miami Heat on a
Speaker 1: five game winning streak. Baseball Awards For those who missed it,
Speaker 1: would you like the schedule? Here it go Tonight Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought we got like a man or Executive
Speaker 2: of the year. First, No, is that tomorrow executives happened
Speaker 2: last week?
Speaker 1: Oh I already missed that. Shucks who won? I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you Tonight Rookie of the Year, Tomorrow Manager of
Speaker 1: the Year, Wednesday Cy Young's and then Thursday MVP. All right,
Speaker 1: by the way, you don't get your all MLB team
Speaker 1: until mid December. All right, what's next? Sunday early window?
Speaker 1: No European games? Steelers at the Browns, the six and
Speaker 1: three Steelers at the six and three Browns. I know
Speaker 1: that New England and Indianapolis are not involved in Week eleven,
Speaker 1: they both have buys. But have we seen the end
Speaker 1: of Mac Jones? Back Jones who was benched? So I
Speaker 1: would say one thousand if Zappi didn't throw that interception
Speaker 1: and then but Zapi like they didn't he didn't practice that,
Speaker 1: he didn't practice like you can't, right, you can't when
Speaker 1: if you decide to bench Mac Jones in that situation,
Speaker 1: you can't go back to that guy like not this season? Right,
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised either way the paper. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked either way to either Patriots have
Speaker 1: two wins. Will Bill Belichick be their coach next season?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean they did give they gave Bailey Zappi plenty
Speaker 2: of opportunities to steal that job too here past year.
Speaker 1: Yep. So they clearly don't remember he he was like
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. They let him go through waivers
Speaker 1: and everything like, they're clearly not big fans of him. Me. No,
Speaker 1: what's the game Sunday? Six and three Steelers at the
Speaker 1: six and three Browns, all the other two teams of
Speaker 1: the AFC North, the six and three Steelers of the
Speaker 1: six and three brown Steelers yesterday they get it done.
Speaker 1: Oh and boy was that nip and tuck with green Bay.
Speaker 1: They win it twenty three to nineteen, three and a
Speaker 1: half points spread in this game, opening drive seventy five yards,
Speaker 1: helped along by seventeen yard pass interference nause in from
Speaker 1: four to seven to nothing Pittsburgh and suing drive, green
Speaker 1: Bay came right back sixty nine yards love to Dobbs
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs in the corner of the end zone. What
Speaker 1: a beautiful pass by Jordan Love from eight out seven
Speaker 1: to seven, four to forty two left in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Then the next drive, Pittsburgh goes sixty yards. Jalen Warren
Speaker 1: in from sixteen fourteen to seven Pittsburgh less than a
Speaker 1: minute into the second quarter, seventeen to seven game. Now
Speaker 1: Green Bay gos eighty yards a Dylan forty yard run.
Speaker 1: The big play third and sixteen at the Pittsburgh thirty
Speaker 1: five Love to Jayden Reed touchdown. Another beautiful pass by
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Honestly, Jordan Love was great in this game.
Speaker 1: Those passes like if he doesn't make them perfectly, this
Speaker 1: might have been a blowout. Seventeen to thirteen Pittsburgh. Carlson's
Speaker 1: pat I'm talking about Andrews. Carlton's pat blocked. His pat
Speaker 1: attempt blocked, so it remains seventeen to thirteen. That never
Speaker 1: comes back and haunts you never four to fourteen left
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, that would be the score. Halftime,
Speaker 1: third quarter, Carlson from thirty one made it seventeen to
Speaker 1: sixteen Pittsburgh. Then he made one from twenty eight gave
Speaker 1: Green Bay their first lead to the game at nineteen
Speaker 1: to seventeen, then Boswell from forty nine twenty to nineteen Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and then after a green Bay three and out and
Speaker 1: a subsequent trade of punts, Pittsburgh gets a thirty five
Speaker 1: yard Boswell field goal twenty three to nineteen, five to
Speaker 1: fourteen to go. Green Bay matriculates second to nine at
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh fourteen. They're fourteen yards away from taking a
Speaker 1: lead three point thirty two to go. Love picked off
Speaker 1: in the end zone on a defect on a deflection
Speaker 1: by Patrick Peterson into the hands of Kean O'Neil three
Speaker 1: twenty to go. Green Bay would get the ball back
Speaker 1: with fifty nine seconds to go at their own nineteen.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love brings them downfield. Spurred on by Love to
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid forty six yard connection and a subsequent fourth
Speaker 1: and two conversion, green Bay gets into the Pittsburgh sixteen
Speaker 1: three seconds left. Love picked by demonte Caze ball game
Speaker 1: twenty three to nineteen. Pittsburgh holds on and courtesy of
Speaker 1: the missed extra point, they cover pick at fourteen of
Speaker 1: twenty three for one, twenty six no touchdowns, no Pixie
Speaker 1: to sack once Jalen Warren fifteen for one on one
Speaker 1: on the ground in a touchdown. Pittsburgh outgained by green
Speaker 1: Bay three ninety nine to three twenty four. Why is
Speaker 1: that significant? They're six and three and they've been out
Speaker 1: gained in every single game this season. Mike Tomlin and
Speaker 1: the Magic Beans there plus two and turnovers. Those two
Speaker 1: picks at the end were the keys to preserve the
Speaker 1: win at Cleveland DeShawn yesterday and that win, that comfort
Speaker 1: behind win over Baltimore. Deshaun Watson was twenty of thirty
Speaker 1: four for two thirteen, one touchdown, one pick. You sacked
Speaker 1: four times, eight carries for thirty seven yards. Jerome Ford
Speaker 1: seventeen for one oh seven, Cooper Mariy Cooper six for
Speaker 1: ninety eight through the air, ten penalties for fifty five
Speaker 1: yards for Cleveland Pittsburgh at Cleveland six and three teams,
Speaker 1: they are not at all similar. I will say Cleveland
Speaker 1: by six.
Speaker 2: Okay, just real quick. This is Deshaun Watson wasn't a
Speaker 2: walking boot after the game yesterday. He did speak postgame though, instead,
Speaker 2: I'll be fine right now. I'm not feeling well, but
Speaker 2: I'll be fine. I'll be ready to go, ready to go.
Speaker 2: You had Steelers by our Browns by six. It is
Speaker 2: three and a half over at DraftKings. Mostly fours out
Speaker 2: there right now.
Speaker 1: Give me the Browns, I think. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: That seems too low. At some point this has to
Speaker 1: implode on Pittsburgh. I would think so too. I would
Speaker 1: think so. I don't really feel comfortable begging the Browns,
Speaker 1: just as I've been very skeptical of how healthy, how
Speaker 1: healthy Deshaun is if he doesn't know he's got another injury.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and by the way, he hasn't been lightening
Speaker 1: up exactly. I thought he was a lot better than
Speaker 1: the alternative. I thought his arm looks better yesterday fro.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see a ton where I was
Speaker 1: on the air for a lot of it.
Speaker 2: But he I thought he had some He had some
Speaker 2: air under that ball, a little bit more. It was
Speaker 2: he was zipping it in there a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Did seem a little bit more strength on his throw.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you here.
Speaker 1: I think I'll be playing Browns as well. What's next?
Speaker 1: Next up? We have Bears at Lions three and seven.
Speaker 1: Bears coming off of Thursday night win extra rest at
Speaker 1: the seven and two Lions. Bears played on Thursday behind
Speaker 1: Tyson bagent. This is going to depend on if its
Speaker 1: fields are bagent to me. But Detroit, what a ping
Speaker 1: pong game with the Los Angeles Chargers three to three game,
Speaker 1: Detroit goes seventy five yards Jamiir Gibbs rushing for fifty
Speaker 1: two on that drive. Eventually in from one he goes
Speaker 1: ten to three Detroit. Then after Herbert was picked by
Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph, Detroit set up at the Chargers thirty three.
Speaker 1: They converted fourth and five and a fourth and one
Speaker 1: along the way. They end up second and goal at
Speaker 1: the one. Montgomery stuff twice and then on fourth Golf
Speaker 1: forced to throw it away thirteen on nine left in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, still a seven point game, but after
Speaker 1: a Chargers three and out, Detroit goes sixty yards Gibbs
Speaker 1: accounting for thirty three of those in from one on
Speaker 1: fourth goal seventeen to three Lions. And all the Lions
Speaker 1: backers are like yazigil, they're so much better than the Chargers. Eh,
Speaker 1: slow that down, ensuing drive, just go seventy five yards
Speaker 1: Herbert to Allen from twenty nine out on a dime,
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. Lions. First play, next drive Montgomery for
Speaker 1: seventy five touchdown twenty four to ten Detroit. Then Chargers
Speaker 1: ten plays seventy five yards Eckler in on fourth and
Speaker 1: one from the two, twenty four to seventeen Detroit at
Speaker 1: the half, neither defense can stop the other offense. At halftime,
Speaker 1: it's three zero seven to two ten total yards advantage
Speaker 1: for Detroit. Herbert had one hundred and seventy nine yards
Speaker 1: passing third quarter lines bypass a fifty five yard field
Speaker 1: goal dry they decided to punt. Shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: Chargers then go ninety two yards Herbert to Jalen Geitten
Speaker 1: from eighteen out twenty four to twenty four, seven to
Speaker 1: fifty nine left third quarter, ensuing drives seven play seventy
Speaker 1: five yard drive for the Lions go off to Saint
Speaker 1: Brown from thirty three to twenty to the house, concluding
Speaker 1: that drive thirty one twenty four Detroit four to thirty
Speaker 1: one left in the third quarter. Following drive, now without
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, who was knocked out on the previous Chargers
Speaker 1: drive with the shoulder injury, Chargers get a break when
Speaker 1: officials call a PI on fourth and goal from the one.
Speaker 1: Suspect then it takes them four more plays to get
Speaker 1: in on the subsequent fourth and goal from the one
Speaker 1: Herbert to Johnston, first shout of the year for Quentin Johnson,
Speaker 1: thirty one to thirty one, eleven thirty to go. By
Speaker 1: the way, six total plays for the Chargers from the one.
Speaker 1: That's how long it took him to get that. In
Speaker 1: next drive ty ballgame, now thirty one apiece, Detroit seven
Speaker 1: plays seventy five yards Golf to brock right from twenty
Speaker 1: five out thirty eight to thirty one halfway through the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Then the Chargers go sixty eight yards. I
Speaker 1: think you get the idea fourth and one at the
Speaker 1: Detroit thirty eight Herbert to Allen touchdown. What a pass?
Speaker 1: What a play Allen back in the game thirty eight
Speaker 1: thirty eight, three thirty eight left, Detroit ends up with
Speaker 1: a fourth and two of the Chargers twenty seven one
Speaker 1: forty seven to go. This is the moment in the game,
Speaker 1: your mere mortal coach kicks a field goal. Not Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell favorite to win Coach of the Year still, although
Speaker 1: the objects in his rear view mirror are getting larger.
Speaker 1: Golf to Laporta for six first down, setting up a
Speaker 1: Riley Patterson forty one yard walk off forty one thirty
Speaker 1: eight Detroit Detroit with a bye week before that, Chargers
Speaker 1: on short rest. Detroit gets done by three Golf twenty
Speaker 1: three of thirty three for three thirty three, two Downste
Speaker 1: Pixie wasn't sacked. Montgomery twelve for one, sixteen in a touchdown,
Speaker 1: Gibbs fourteen for seventy seven and two touchdowns on the ground,
Speaker 1: three catches for thirty five Saint Brown eight for one,
Speaker 1: fifty six in a touchdown, five thirty three to four
Speaker 1: twenty one advantage in total yards. I will say Detroit
Speaker 1: by seven and a half if it's Fields ten and
Speaker 1: a half. If it's a pagent, it is Lions nine
Speaker 1: and a half. Right now at DraftKings we were going
Speaker 1: up to ten places. I had nine a couple hours
Speaker 1: agoing there, b Sheelsey, if Tyson Bagent will start this
Speaker 1: fifth straight game. More guessing lines on the other side
Speaker 1: right here at FISA, it's skill. Alexander Kelly Bidlin live
Speaker 1: from Mark, Canada here at the d in downtown Las Vegas. Kelly,
Speaker 1: I am not usually the guy who talks about these
Speaker 1: big bets. You know how, there's like a whole cottage
Speaker 1: industry of people are like, oh, there's this bet made here,
Speaker 1: and there's bet made here, and oh my god, look everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to the action. Rich Floridians. Though, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to mention this one because it's only five days into
Speaker 1: them having betting. But some dude in South Florida won
Speaker 1: five point five million dollars on a five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars four leg NFL parlay with the newly reopened Hard
Speaker 1: Rock Sports Book. And here he did it. When when
Speaker 1: Matt Amadola we talked about Houston winning that game on
Speaker 1: the Amadola Kick. Four legs of his parlay were Texans
Speaker 1: to beat the Bengals, So Texans on the money line,
Speaker 1: Texans Bengals to go over forty four and a half,
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary to score a touchdown, and Singletary to go
Speaker 1: over fifty one and a half rushing yards. Where's the
Speaker 1: part about, Oh, Amadola won the game for them, That's
Speaker 1: why it was the Amadola party. Okay, So that dude.
Speaker 1: And now apparently earlier in the week, oh yeah, ye,
Speaker 1: Apparently earlier in the week, somebody bet one point five
Speaker 1: four to six million on Kent State. By the way,
Speaker 1: they have one win this year. I think it was
Speaker 1: the first day they were officially fully open against but no,
Speaker 1: that was the second day on Wednesday against Bowling Green.
Speaker 1: And of course Kent State got trounced forty nine to nineteen.
Speaker 1: So he lost one point one to two million at
Speaker 1: Kent State plus plus the points and then four hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty six thousand on the money line. I heard
Speaker 1: he was back the next day. I just want to
Speaker 1: know this if this is is this the same dude
Speaker 1: or or South Florida out of their heads? I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: look it's a lot of what is this going to
Speaker 1: be South Florida now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I think it is, Like, yeah, you're always
Speaker 2: going to get these heavy ones out of the gates,
Speaker 2: right Like, I don't think we're going to see five
Speaker 2: mil every every weekend right.
Speaker 1: Now if you're doing these parlays because you can lose
Speaker 1: all your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like you know, we've always talked about I
Speaker 2: mean California, Florida, Florida, Texas, Like it's not just it's
Speaker 2: not just the population, right when you talk Californians and
Speaker 2: Floridians especially, there's some money down there.
Speaker 1: I would like a epondo and a uh, but the
Speaker 1: other the chuckle and five hundred thousand dollars four like
Speaker 1: Parley Place. All right, what do you got? What's next?
Speaker 1: By the way, just a review? I like Cleveland. If
Speaker 1: it's Shawn playing and it's only would you say three
Speaker 1: and a half? Three and a half's out there? There's
Speaker 1: mostly fours right now, but three and a half in
Speaker 1: draft games? Yeah, all right? Next up, Chargers, Packers. All right,
Speaker 1: we talked about both these teams. Chargers lose to the
Speaker 1: Lions by three at home. Green Bay loses by four
Speaker 1: on the road to tow the Steelers. It's the four
Speaker 1: and five Chargers with three and six Packers. Herbert in
Speaker 1: the loss twenty seven of forty for three to twenty three,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, one pick, he was not sacked. Eckler nineteen
Speaker 1: for sixty seven on the ground and a touchdown, four
Speaker 1: catches for forty eight, Keenan Allen eleven for one seventy
Speaker 1: five and two touchdowns, and again five point thirty three
Speaker 1: four to twenty one disadvantage in total yards. They gave
Speaker 1: up five thirty three to the Lions. Green Bay in defeat.
Speaker 1: Jordan loved twenty one of forty for two to eighty nine,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two picks, and he was sacked once. Those
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes were beautiful. Gotta give Jordan Love credit
Speaker 1: where it is due. Yes, the picks stunk at the end,
Speaker 1: as they typically do, but he was solid for much
Speaker 1: of that game. They outgained Pittsburgh three ninety nine to
Speaker 1: three twenty four, keeping Pittsburgh's getting out gain streak intact
Speaker 1: for the entire year, but they were minus two in turnovers.
Speaker 1: We mentioned those two picks at the end. To preserve
Speaker 1: the win for Pittsburgh, I would say the Chargers minus
Speaker 1: three on the.
Speaker 2: Road spot on it is three. There is a couple
Speaker 2: three and a halves out there, but it is mainly three.
Speaker 2: Mainly three juiced to the Chargers side.
Speaker 1: All right, Next, Raiders at Dolphins, the five and five
Speaker 1: Raiders at the six and three Dolphins? Who's got the
Speaker 1: most who's got the record? In football? Now where you're like,
Speaker 1: I cannot believe this team is X? You know what,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, because here are your choices. I've
Speaker 1: been ripping on the Steelers. Yeah, go ahead, give me
Speaker 1: my choices. The Steelers at six and three, for sure.
Speaker 1: The Steelers at six and three, the Raiders at five
Speaker 1: and five, the Colts at five and five, and there's
Speaker 1: one more six and three that's just ridiculous at six
Speaker 1: and three. Who's like, also fugezy six and three Besides
Speaker 1: the Steelers, there's another one not Qua Hawks Seahawks six
Speaker 1: and Three's who's got the record where you're like, I
Speaker 1: cannot believe this team is that it's got to be
Speaker 1: the Steelers still right now?
Speaker 2: You know what I've been ripping on though in the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, I think I'm gonna go Raiders.
Speaker 2: Raiders five and five.
Speaker 1: Raiders is actually more unbelievable to me than the Steelers
Speaker 1: big six and three. I think you're right, that's cheer
Speaker 1: was definitely number two, though It's choice Number two for
Speaker 1: me is the Raiders for sure. Five and five. Now,
Speaker 1: after that barn burner of a game against the Jets
Speaker 1: last night, how did this game stay under? I know
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Raiders win it sixteen to twelve. Antonio Pierce
Speaker 1: two to zero as the head coach of the Raiders,
Speaker 1: team traded field goals six to three, Jets second and
Speaker 1: eleven from Vegas at their own twenty four. O'Connell was
Speaker 1: then picked by Jordan Whitehead. That led to a Zerline
Speaker 1: thirty yard field goals, So it was nine to three Jets,
Speaker 1: three field goals to one eleven forty eight eleven the
Speaker 1: second quarter. Then, after a would be Zach Wilson twenty
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown run, he apparently stepped out at the three.
Speaker 1: He not apparently he did. That was, of course, in
Speaker 1: Jets fashion, followed by a hold and so yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: didn't get anywhere, by the way, the team's traded punts.
Speaker 1: That was after the team's traded punts. Vegas knocked themselves
Speaker 1: out of a field goal range with two sacks on the
Speaker 1: second of those, but a Carlson fifty four yard field
Speaker 1: goal made it nine to six Jets at that point
Speaker 1: at halftime. So, by the way, on that Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: you know, didn't get the touchdown. Then they were knocked
Speaker 1: out with the hole. They didn't get any points on that.
Speaker 1: So a nine to six Jets at this point in
Speaker 1: the ball game. Then a trade of punts, an additional
Speaker 1: Jets punt Carlson forty yard field goal, nine to nine.
Speaker 1: We're toded. It's riveting. Two thirty six left in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. The bottom line in this game is every
Speaker 1: time the Jets and the Raiders got close to a touchdown,
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was either a sack fester than penalties,
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't do anything once they had gotten
Speaker 1: all the way downfield. Then, after a Jets three and
Speaker 1: out spurred on by a Jacob's forty yard run O'Connell
Speaker 1: to Michael Mayer seven, bardon me seven yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: sixteen to nine, Las Vegas fourteen ten to go, sir
Speaker 1: line does get a forty five yard field goal sixteen
Speaker 1: to twelve, Las Vegas eleven to fifty eight to go.
Speaker 1: Then the Raiders have fourth Inch's at their own forty
Speaker 1: four de Andre Carter for fifteen, but three plays later,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs fumbles. Ashton Davis recovers six h six to go.
Speaker 1: I guess he recovered it. We'll never know. Looked like
Speaker 1: Jacobs might have had it on the ground, but there
Speaker 1: wasn't enough in that pile to overturn. So the Jets
Speaker 1: start at their own twenty four down four. They get
Speaker 1: to the Las Vegas twenty one, twenty two to go.
Speaker 1: What does Zach Wilson do in these situations, Kelly he
Speaker 1: throws a pick, Robert splane picks. It looks like the
Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna win it no problem, but Jets have
Speaker 1: all three timeouts left. They use two of them and
Speaker 1: they bat down a pass on third. Raiders were trying
Speaker 1: to seal it, so they get the ball back. The
Speaker 1: Jets do with fifty three seconds to go in one
Speaker 1: time out at their own twenty down four, and the
Speaker 1: Jets actually get it into hail Mary range and give
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson at least credit for this. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he got this ball off and how he was
Speaker 1: able to get it all the way downfield, but he's
Speaker 1: running to his left. Max Crosby is chasing him, and
Speaker 1: Wilson somehow gets the pass downfield and Garrett Wilson, I think,
Speaker 1: gets his hand on it. They also had a second
Speaker 1: receiver who got a hand on it. But it does
Speaker 1: fall to the ground and the Raiders win. It's sixteen
Speaker 1: to twelve. But that right there, though, is like the
Speaker 1: end of that game.
Speaker 2: It's what's so frustrating about Zach Wilson, right Like he
Speaker 2: might be small, but that kid's got a.
Speaker 1: Canon of it. That's an amazing pass. He's extremely athletic.
Speaker 1: So this is all the things that's so frustrating about
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson just makes terrible decisions. Yeah, we'll get to
Speaker 1: the Jets, but they fall to four and five, so
Speaker 1: all the whole, the whole. Aaron Rodgers is returning this year,
Speaker 1: thinking simmer down for a week at least. But the
Speaker 1: Raiders are five and five. They're playing the Dolphins. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are gonna be on off a by here like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They're a bully. I'm gonna say minus ten.
Speaker 2: You are you are spot on, and I know you're
Speaker 2: usually looking for value based off of what your guess is,
Speaker 2: but is this not a bet on Miami? Like I
Speaker 2: think I'm willing to lay ten with the Dolphins. They
Speaker 2: are a bully.
Speaker 1: They shove people to shove these crappy teams in the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Do you know anybody I mean,
Speaker 1: I say this, but then every week we see lines
Speaker 1: doing funny things where it's like, oh, money's coming in
Speaker 1: on the Raiders. I was gonna say, yes, no, you
Speaker 1: are right. I was gonna say, would you do you
Speaker 1: know anybody who would race to bet the Raiders here. No,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm a little scared of it moving the
Speaker 1: Miami Way.
Speaker 2: But you are right, the bulk of the season on
Speaker 2: those bigger favorites. It's funny the dogs have taken money.
Speaker 1: Because there's always gonna be this too cool for school.
Speaker 1: It's the sharp thing to do well, and unders have
Speaker 1: been hitting. I get it, like there's more. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: more to every spread now with all these with the
Speaker 1: low scoring in the NFL. But man, this just feels
Speaker 1: like Dolphins blowout written all over it. I think. I
Speaker 1: think the reason I asked that question, though at the beginning,
Speaker 1: is it is exactly the answer I wanted to Listen,
Speaker 1: it was as obvious as Pittsburgh would be to be
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous record at six and three. The Raiders
Speaker 1: at five and five is pretty damn ridiculous. Also, I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize there were five and five till you
Speaker 1: said that, to be honest. But ye that I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it, yes, that is more ridiculous than the Steelers
Speaker 1: big six and three. Still like Cleveland the best of
Speaker 1: all these so far, assuming Deshaun plays. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Who's Raiders are I don't. I don't think I'm rushing
Speaker 2: on that one though, because there's too much.
Speaker 1: Going on, too much going on, But yes, that would
Speaker 1: that would definitely be there, and especially like we're getting
Speaker 1: four at this point. Like I, yes, there is there
Speaker 1: is a difference between four and four and a half
Speaker 1: once you get into the actual dead dead numbers. But
Speaker 1: I don't know you really sweating that that much. I'd
Speaker 1: rather be I'd rather know more about the injury injury
Speaker 1: stuff with once you know what this Raiders Dolphins game
Speaker 1: feels like though, it feels like, oh, I've got my
Speaker 1: three picks. Now I've got to fill out my fourth
Speaker 1: and fifth for a contest? Oh yeah, am I gonna
Speaker 1: make the Dolphins Tayphin. By the way, the Ravens were
Speaker 1: the team that got me doing that last week this
Speaker 1: past week here in circum Millions, they were, ah, you know,
Speaker 1: a random hip to fill out my contest, and that
Speaker 1: did not work at angles. I had all the good
Speaker 1: losers all right, A lot more to get to guessing
Speaker 1: lines week eleven numbers game. Visa these sports betting that
Speaker 1: we're well James Hard and La Clippers. Things working out
Speaker 1: great in it. Kelly it's working out great for betters.
Speaker 1: Couldn't see that coming, Clippers Brass Jesse Welch, We get
Speaker 1: tweets that beating the book Jesse Welch without fail my
Speaker 1: minus one thousand ticket cashes on Gilly to Railroad through
Speaker 1: the guessing lines open Indiana Jet and people wonder why
Speaker 1: companies like DraftKings Fan will spend gobs and gobs of
Speaker 1: money on lawyers and marketing and lobbyists to get laws
Speaker 1: passed that would allow them to open up shops Florida
Speaker 1: and California exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, well, and that was one thing I wanted to
Speaker 2: bring up real quick when we were talking about that.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad that tweet came in because we are
Speaker 2: going to keep hearing about these big bets in Florida.
Speaker 2: Why because there's only one sports.
Speaker 1: Books correction right, no, right, I mean, so it's only
Speaker 1: going to be one book that's promoting all this stuff.
Speaker 1: This gambling thing is going to catch on to some boy, Kelly,
Speaker 1: it really is. Can't wait till can't wait for Nevada
Speaker 1: to get legalized. I was just saying, but Florida. I
Speaker 1: was telling about Flora, Florida friends of mine that you're
Speaker 1: just like us now, like you're going to be in
Speaker 1: the Nevada sports betting both like can't wait till you
Speaker 1: get legalized fully two you actually get other books to
Speaker 1: shop lines at oh man, some of the things that
Speaker 1: just like we just don't have. We we're so beaten
Speaker 1: into submission on like again, it's like the oh, look,
Speaker 1: you can bet Grand Slam tennis tournaments for next year
Speaker 1: to this person will win three, this person to win
Speaker 1: for It's like, can we just get those Well, stop
Speaker 1: that big a deal. I know it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: Let's guess some more lines. What he got next? Early
Speaker 1: window Giants at Commanders, Oh, the giants at the commodes,
Speaker 1: all right, come on, come Onde, you gotta win this
Speaker 1: football game. The two and eight Giants, the four and
Speaker 1: six Commodores Giants. Listen. One of my correct picks was
Speaker 1: Dallas laying the laying the wood on the Giants, and
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get rich in the NFL laying those
Speaker 1: kind of points. But this was one of those where
Speaker 1: the Giants are just it's the Tommy DeVito led giants.
Speaker 1: They're just so bad. Dallas first tribe didn't start out
Speaker 1: that way. Though Dallas first drive of the game, they
Speaker 1: were stopped on fourth and goal with the two when
Speaker 1: Pollard only got one. But then the Giants game in
Speaker 1: four yards on three plays from their one. But then
Speaker 1: after another Dallas three and out. The Giants, this time
Speaker 1: Kelly went minus two yards in three plays from their six. Dallas,
Speaker 1: though they went fifty four yards lamb in from fourteen
Speaker 1: to seven to nothing Dallas three thirty eight left in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. But and this was the high point
Speaker 1: of the game for the Giants. After a Giants punt
Speaker 1: last play of the first quarter, Dak picked by Cordale Flott,
Speaker 1: setting up the Giants first and ten at the Dallas
Speaker 1: eleven just down seven. Here's your sequence incomplete, almost picked
Speaker 1: Sakuan for two defeat over six fourth and two at
Speaker 1: the four. Sakuon stuff for no game thirteen twenty three
Speaker 1: eleven the secon quarter, and thus began the Cowboys blowout.
Speaker 1: Dallas then goes ninety six yards on eight plays. Dak
Speaker 1: to Cooks for twenty five into lamb for thirty. A
Speaker 1: lot of cooks and a lot of lamb. They'de you hungry.
Speaker 1: The big chunks on that drive Dak to Jake Ferguson
Speaker 1: from one out fourteen to nothing Dallas eight forty eight
Speaker 1: laps second quarter. Then after another three and out from
Speaker 1: the Giants, Dallas goes fifty four yards Dak to Cooks
Speaker 1: from ten out twenty one and nothing Dallas three forty
Speaker 1: eight left second quarter, Then another Giants three and out
Speaker 1: eighty five yards on seven plays for Dallas, Dak to
Speaker 1: Cooks for combined fifty on the drive. Then a ridiculous
Speaker 1: throw throw the ball up on the run that lands
Speaker 1: and lambs hands for seventeen dak ultimately in from ten
Speaker 1: to out on third and nine, twenty eight to nothing
Speaker 1: Dallas at the half. Remember they're giving anywhere between sixteen
Speaker 1: and a half to seventeen and a half depending on
Speaker 1: where you got this third quarter after the team's trade
Speaker 1: three and outs. Now, the Giants at this point had
Speaker 1: nineteen total yards on their first eight drives. That's not good. Told,
Speaker 1: that's not good. You know what they do on this drive?
Speaker 1: They go ninety one yards all on the ground except
Speaker 1: for the final ten to veto to Lawrence Cage your
Speaker 1: ten yard touchdown pass twenty eight to seven Dallas, and
Speaker 1: suddenly the spread is not as comfy as it once was,
Speaker 1: but then Dallas immediately goes eighty six yards and six
Speaker 1: plays Dac to Gallop for forty one. That's the gallop
Speaker 1: for forty one, thirty five to seven, Dallas, four to
Speaker 1: forty left third quarter, Dallas would have added another score
Speaker 1: after drawn. Bland picked a Vito downfield Dak to Cooks
Speaker 1: for thirty seven and thirty two on them the drive
Speaker 1: to Lamb for the score twelve yard touchdown pass forty
Speaker 1: two to seven Dallas. Dallas would eventually win it forty
Speaker 1: nine to seventeen. I don't want to gloss over that
Speaker 1: last part of the game because I know somebody, uh
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants me to say his name,
Speaker 1: but his name rhymes and he's on the megapod. He
Speaker 1: had the Giants under team total and the Giants show
Speaker 1: the Giants used all of their timeouts. They were like,
Speaker 1: we must get this touchdown, and they did, so it
Speaker 1: goes over the team total. That's a brutal loss for
Speaker 1: those teams. He plays seventy five yard drive like they
Speaker 1: actually put a drive together too. We must get this
Speaker 1: to thirty two, and they did forty nine to seventeen.
Speaker 1: DeVito ended up fourteen for twenty seven for eighty six,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one pick. He sacked five times, seven carries
Speaker 1: for forty one yards. Giants ozho for twelve on third
Speaker 1: down in this game zero for twelve on third down.
Speaker 1: They were out gained by Dallas six one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty to one seventy two. Oh incredible. In the passing
Speaker 1: yardage they were out gained four seventy two to sixty one.
Speaker 1: Also thirty seven to twenty one to twenty two thirty
Speaker 1: nine a time of possession. Those are your New York Giants. Point.
Speaker 2: Oh, my favorite, my favorite player prop yesterday Tommy DeVito
Speaker 2: over his interception prop over a half interception at draftings
Speaker 2: was minus two thirty, minus two thirty.
Speaker 1: You just don't never see numbers. It hit. He had
Speaker 1: to wait till like the third quarter, but it hit.
Speaker 1: This is Tony Holtzmann who says Dak Prescott has three
Speaker 1: straight games with three hundred plus passing yards and three
Speaker 1: plus passing touchdowns. Only three players have had a longer
Speaker 1: streak in a single season since the nineteen seventy merger.
Speaker 1: That's again, three straight games with three hundred plus passing
Speaker 1: yards and three plus passing touchdowns. That can't be true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of surprised me when I saw this too.
Speaker 1: Is that true? We got a fact check that Steve
Speaker 1: Young had five in a row in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 1: and Mahomes and Peyton Manning each have had streaks of four.
Speaker 1: That can't be right. I dispute that tweet. I dispute that.
Speaker 1: By the way, Steve Fesick with with a text on this,
Speaker 1: Steve Esick said, he said Dak stepped on the sideline
Speaker 1: going in for a touchdown versus the Eagles last week.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson did it this week, as you just talked
Speaker 1: about in the game against the Raiders last night. You
Speaker 1: could argue both of those plays cost those teams the game.
Speaker 1: Is this really all that difficult? Do these quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: to put their size thirteen feet one millimeter from the sideline.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be prudent to always give yourself a minimum
Speaker 1: of six inches away right before you if you leap
Speaker 1: for the pylon. Steve Zick angry at quarterbacks with large
Speaker 1: feet hitting the sidelines on their way into the end. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll let them. With ste on this with Steve, I
Speaker 1: was bothered by this last week too. There was a
Speaker 1: here's where I will give him. There was a Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers game, which I think they eventually won because they
Speaker 1: eventually win games. There had like multiple receivers It wasn't
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but multiple receivers who kept stepping out bounds
Speaker 1: like Deontay Johnson, Adam Bounds, Pickens Adam bounds, like, no,
Speaker 1: do you know where the sideline is? Do you have
Speaker 1: any anyway? Back to this game? Giants at Washington, Washington
Speaker 1: yesterday against Seattle Kelly. This didn't work out well for Kelly.
Speaker 1: No fourth play from scrimmage, Howell add libbing to Brian
Speaker 1: Robbinson fifty one to the house, mostly Yack, Sly jinks
Speaker 1: the pat six to nothing, Washington one thirty four in
Speaker 1: three Myers field goals versus one Sly field goal along
Speaker 1: the way. It was nine to nine at the half,
Speaker 1: nine to nine. Third quarter after Seattle punt Sly forty
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal, twelve to nine, Washington ten thirty
Speaker 1: two left third quarter and suing drive two plays seventy
Speaker 1: five for Seattle, Gino to Walker for sixty four mostly Yack,
Speaker 1: sixteen to twelve, Seahawks nine to forty three left third quarter.
Speaker 1: Then second play in suing drive, Howell runs for fifteen
Speaker 1: yards in a first down, but he's tackled by Witherspoony
Speaker 1: fumbles is recovered by Reek wooland Seattle cannot capitalize, though,
Speaker 1: so after another Skins punt, sly forty five yard field
Speaker 1: goal makes it nineteen. Excuse me, nut. Sly Myers forty
Speaker 1: five yard field goal makes it nineteen to twelve Seattle
Speaker 1: twelve four teen to go. Washington then goes seventy three
Speaker 1: yards on eight plays. Howell to Gibson from nineteen out.
Speaker 1: We're tied at nineteen eight minutes to go. Kelly's feeling uh,
Speaker 1: feeling like uh, he needs a touchdown, and he gets one.
Speaker 1: Seattle ends up with fourth and five at the Washington
Speaker 1: thirty nine with four to forty one to go. Incomplete
Speaker 1: well over metcalps reach, PI called on Benjamin Saint just
Speaker 1: apparently the reps are like, yeah, he could have caught
Speaker 1: that if he's fifteen feet tall. Why is that even
Speaker 1: on the books. If we're not gonna call him. Leads
Speaker 1: to a Gino to Locke at five yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: four plays later, twenty six to nineteen Seattle three forty
Speaker 1: seven a go Kelly Biddlin feeling good. But then Washington
Speaker 1: fourth and one at the saddle forty three won twenty
Speaker 1: eight to go. Howell to McLaurin for eight, three blazes
Speaker 1: later Diami Brown for thirty five touchdown twenty six twenty six,
Speaker 1: fifty two seconds to go, and as with every single
Speaker 1: game in this league, this Sunday, that was way too
Speaker 1: much time. Seattle goes fifty yards and six plays using
Speaker 1: their two remaining timeouts, Myers walk off forty three yard
Speaker 1: field well again, one of five walk off field goals
Speaker 1: in the National FOOTBA leagu Yesterday, twenty nine to twenty
Speaker 1: six Seattle. They went at howl twenty nine to forty
Speaker 1: four for three twelve, three touchdowns, no picks, sack three times,
Speaker 1: two carries for seventeen yards, and that fumble lost. He's
Speaker 1: good man. They just need to give him a line.
Speaker 1: Give that man an offensive line. They'll do it this offseason.
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson eight for thirty eight, six catches for one
Speaker 1: nineteen into touchdown, but Washington gave up four hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty nine total yards to the Seahawks. That said Giants
Speaker 1: at Washington. Washington's got to get this done. I split
Speaker 1: the difference between seven and ten, made it eight and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: I think it's my favorite line of the season. Commander's ten.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Commander's ten. Washington doesn't blow out anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen. So like if you if you're
Speaker 2: racing to lay this, I would just yellow caution light
Speaker 2: on it. They should crush them. I hope they crushed them,
Speaker 2: but it scares me.
Speaker 1: I scrid. Looks like Washington's not a good football They
Speaker 1: are laying ted boys. There's no way I would be
Speaker 1: taking it with the Giants. They wait, they win this though,
Speaker 1: they get to five and six, and I have had
Speaker 1: alternate season winter Lounder. That's still very over over a
Speaker 1: pardon all under Giants, hault under on the Giant. Well
Speaker 1: that's getting off alt over on Washington. We'll come back
Speaker 1: whole bunch more games. Get to guessing lines right here
Speaker 1: at Vson the numbers told the story they always do.
Speaker 1: It's one of those idiots who believe in the analytics.
Speaker 1: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander gone in
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Speaker 1: It's Gil Alexander, It's Kelly Bindlin. Still guessing lines for
Speaker 1: week eleven so far like the Browns looking for more. Uh,
Speaker 1: you said Friday night, Kelly off air, it was a
Speaker 1: vsent significant other night. You met a lot of Vson
Speaker 1: significant others. Yeah, you did not mean mine, No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: We were at a random a random current of so
Speaker 1: many people at Circa that I ran into Arlesburg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went to the Tony Tony Tony Show on Friday night.
Speaker 1: How was it? You were looking forward to it for
Speaker 1: like three months? One of the top ten concerts of
Speaker 1: my life. That's great at the Palms. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: about Tony Tony Tony. This is just a brief aside
Speaker 1: before we get back to guessing lines. They are nineties
Speaker 1: R and B. They take you back to that time
Speaker 1: in your life when you were young and beautiful and
Speaker 1: you could rule the world, and they were they were
Speaker 1: not derivative of anything else that they were their own
Speaker 1: sound and they are spectacularly. It was just fantastic. There
Speaker 1: you go, Tony Tony. Tony has done it again. Just
Speaker 1: uh one uh one stop here in Vegas. One one
Speaker 1: show one showing out, one showing out. Yeah, a couple
Speaker 1: in the Bay, couple in Oakland next week for those
Speaker 1: who are interested, back in their hometown of Oakland. All right,
Speaker 1: what's next? Early Windows? Still on Sunday, Cowboys at Panthers
Speaker 1: six to three, Cowboys one in eight Panther. Panthers are
Speaker 1: the last team with one win, right, that's it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so everybody else got it, got at least two.
Speaker 1: Dallas is six and three off that win over the Giants.
Speaker 1: Dack ended up, by the way, twenty six of thirty
Speaker 1: five for four h four, four touchdowns, one pick. He
Speaker 1: was not sacked, two carries for seventeen yards in that touchdown.
Speaker 1: Cooks nine for one seventy three in a touchdown. Is
Speaker 1: that the best game of his career? Sure feels like it.
Speaker 1: Lamb eleven for one fifty one in a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: also had one carry for fourteen yards that was a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They held the Giants, as we said to oh for
Speaker 1: twelve on third zero for twelve on third downs. They
Speaker 1: outgained the Giants six forty to one. Seventy two for
Speaker 1: seventy two to sixty one in the passing game. And
Speaker 1: then there's Carolina who, uh you know, will have the
Speaker 1: extra rest here since that Thursday night lost to the Bears.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys are the ultimate bully, right, I
Speaker 1: say minus ten on the road here, Uh, you are
Speaker 1: low lights? Yeah, my friend, I would imagine this did
Speaker 1: open up in that area. We are eleven. We're to
Speaker 1: eleven most places now there are some ten and a
Speaker 1: halves out there. Yeah, I mean I happily laid the
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half. I don't know that I would
Speaker 1: lay it here. I can't do that twice in a row. Well.
Speaker 2: The other one that's interesting is like, does Bryce Young
Speaker 2: Do they just let him play out the season?
Speaker 1: You know, I think you have to. I think you
Speaker 1: have to too. Someone's wondering about yesterday a little bit.
Speaker 1: Unless he's getting unless he starts getting into Sam Howell
Speaker 1: sack mode right where he's just getting destroyed. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to protect him at that point, but otherwise
Speaker 1: you play him. Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: It's just that doesn't this team just feels lost right now.
Speaker 2: I mean offensively with the coaching staff, like who's calling play?
Speaker 1: I place on working they have no weapons? Like I
Speaker 1: love all these mainstream media pers Oh they really wish
Speaker 1: they had drafted Stroud. Now I was like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: we said this, then said this, then like, how are
Speaker 1: you trading up and not drafting Stroud? You traded up
Speaker 1: to draft this kid? And again is an all Bryce
Speaker 1: Young's fault. It is not because the team has no weapon.
Speaker 1: They have nobody. They have nobody, have no the lines, terrible,
Speaker 1: the ride.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were joking about it on Friday, Madam
Speaker 2: feelings their best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: It's not even really close. And who would have said
Speaker 1: the thought that coming into the year. But here's the thing,
Speaker 1: if we had if C. J. Stroud were on the
Speaker 1: Panthers and Bryce Young were on the Texans, would the
Speaker 1: Panthers be quite as bad? Maybe? Would the Texans be
Speaker 1: as good? Not a chance, No way, yep is probably
Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, I think the Panthers a couple more wins.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much better than that they'd be.
Speaker 1: I have no way of proving this, but that's what
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going with. I agree, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: what's next? The Titans at the Jaguars, three and six
Speaker 1: Titans six and three jag Wires, or as normal people
Speaker 1: say at Jaguars. Tennessee loses the Tampa Bay. This is
Speaker 1: the game I wanted no part of. Tennessee let it
Speaker 1: three to nothing in a game that had featured a
Speaker 1: bad Mayfield pick early and then Nick Folks first missed
Speaker 1: field well of the season. Then Tampa Bay with a
Speaker 1: six play eighty five years Our drive took three minutes
Speaker 1: and nine seconds. Mayfield on a screen to Rashod White
Speaker 1: from forty three out touchdown seven to three, Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: five point thirty nine left in the second quarter. That
Speaker 1: would be the score at the half. Second half opening
Speaker 1: drive McLoughlin twenty five yard field goal. That was after
Speaker 1: Evans dropped a sure touchdown two plays earlier, ten to
Speaker 1: three Tampa Bay. You were like that could come back
Speaker 1: and haunt these Buccaneers. Evans with a straight drop, but
Speaker 1: after a Tennessee BoNT Tampa Bay go's eighty yards all
Speaker 1: but eight yards through the air Mayfield to Evans for
Speaker 1: twenty two. He makes up for it seventeen to three
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay two forty six left third quarter and then
Speaker 1: Kelly next drive. Tennessee ends up with a fourth and
Speaker 1: goal at the nine. They're down fourteen twelve, fifty seven
Speaker 1: to go, and Mike Rabel says, hey, Nick Folk, you
Speaker 1: get out there and you kick that twenty seven yard
Speaker 1: field goal. You kick it good. And he did, and
Speaker 1: he turned a seventeen to three game into a seventeen
Speaker 1: to six game. Because what do you do, Gil, Because
Speaker 1: when you have a chance to cut a two score
Speaker 1: lead to a two score lead, you do it. You
Speaker 1: do it. Every time mcglougham would screaming, McLaughlin would answer
Speaker 1: with a thirty five yard if you're able to make
Speaker 1: it twenty to six, which made it even more ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And that's how it would end up, uh with the
Speaker 1: Tennessee's last drives ending in the Levis pick and two
Speaker 1: turnovers on downs. Lewis nineteen of thirty nine for one
Speaker 1: to ninety nine, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked
Speaker 1: four times. Henry eleven for twenty four that's always the
Speaker 1: barometer for Titans games. Eleven carries twenty four yards and
Speaker 1: Tennessee was out gaining three forty to two oh nine.
Speaker 1: Tennessee's is one of these teams. Tennessee and Tampa both
Speaker 1: like the reason this was the game I wanted no
Speaker 1: part of it is because any outcome would no outcome
Speaker 1: would have surprised me. Yeah, I played the over on
Speaker 1: the thirty eight.
Speaker 2: It was just both these both these fronts are good
Speaker 2: and thought that they thought they would slow down the run,
Speaker 2: but they'd get big chunk passing plays sometimes.
Speaker 1: But Billy Levi's just didn't show up. He did didn't
Speaker 1: show up. And then there's Jacksonville, who this was supposed
Speaker 1: to be the marquee matchup of the of the day
Speaker 1: hosting the Niners. Yeah, not so much. After a Jags
Speaker 1: three and out that ends in a sack of Lawrence,
Speaker 1: San Francisco goes fifty seven yards on four plays to
Speaker 1: Kittle for twenty nine. The big one next play to
Speaker 1: Iuke thirteen yard touchdown pass. As uh boy Purty likes
Speaker 1: that across the body crossfield pass, doesn't he that's gonna
Speaker 1: that's not gonna come back and haunt him at any point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a little gun slinger in him. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: comes out. Then, uh yeah, seven and nothing. San Francisco
Speaker 1: eleven thirty four left first quarter. Then after another Jacksonville
Speaker 1: three and out that ends in a sack of Lawrence
Speaker 1: Moody thirty nine yard field will tend to nothing after
Speaker 1: a trade of punch. Jacksonville drive ends on a Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa Chase Young half sack half sack of Lawrence he fumbles,
Speaker 1: Bosa recovers, doesn't lead to anything, though team's trade field
Speaker 1: goals before halftime thirteen to three Niners into the half,
Speaker 1: so the Niners are dominating this game, but they only
Speaker 1: lead thirteen to three. Then in the second half, the
Speaker 1: blowout begins. Second play from scrimmage Purty to Kittle for
Speaker 1: sixty six twenty to three San Francisco fifty seconds in
Speaker 1: to the half. Niners would make it twenty seven to
Speaker 1: three on a debo twenty three yard touchdown run that
Speaker 1: after Lawrence was picked by Talanoa Hufanga to end one drive,
Speaker 1: and a second would end on a Christian Kirk fumble
Speaker 1: hit by ambry Thomas, which was an interesting moment in
Speaker 1: the game because ambry Thomas appeared to recover it. He
Speaker 1: did recover it, but then he appeared to ticket to
Speaker 1: the house when no whistle blew, but the Niners whole
Speaker 1: team was on the field, nullifying it. It took Fox
Speaker 1: forever to show the angle of the entire field, of
Speaker 1: the entire team on the field, so for like ninety seconds,
Speaker 1: which is an eternity. The announcers and the viewers are like,
Speaker 1: what the heck happened? Lives out of the air, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's taking so long? And then they showed
Speaker 1: that replay and we're like, well, half the teams on
Speaker 1: the field, but it took them forever to give us
Speaker 1: that angle. It's like, oh that, why couldn't you shown
Speaker 1: us that long time ago? No matter. Lawrence would then
Speaker 1: get picked by Fred Warner on a fourth and fifteen
Speaker 1: as he was getting hit on the pass that that
Speaker 1: led to a by the way, the Niners scored on
Speaker 1: that same drive where Ambry Thomas recovered that fumble. Lawrence
Speaker 1: would then get picked by Fred Warner on a fourth
Speaker 1: and fifteen as he was getting hit on the pass
Speaker 1: led to a three play forty yard drive Purty to
Speaker 1: use check from twenty two out thirty four to three
Speaker 1: nine ers, and then the Niners would later how can
Speaker 1: I put this cheesily? Is cheesily a word? Sure? They
Speaker 1: would later cheesily try to force feed McCaffrey a touchdown
Speaker 1: to keep his touchdownstrak Alive that was unsuccessful. Thirty four
Speaker 1: to three would be the final. Trevor Lawrence seventeen of
Speaker 1: twenty nine for one to eighty five, no touchdowns, two picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked five times, two carries for seven yards.
Speaker 1: He did lose the fumble Christian Kirk six for one
Speaker 1: oh four and a fumble lost himself. Bottom line, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: against this Niners defense twelve first downs total, they were
Speaker 1: out gained four thirty seven to two twenty one, and
Speaker 1: most importantly, they were minus four in turnovers, which led
Speaker 1: directly to a plus fourteen net San Francisco points. Niners
Speaker 1: just destroyed them. We had a tweet last week for
Speaker 1: forgive me to the gentleman or that tweeted it in
Speaker 1: but I agreed with it at the time. I think
Speaker 1: it was on Friday where he said, do the Niners
Speaker 1: remind you and we'll get to the Niners, but do
Speaker 1: the Niners remind you of that Rams team that won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl where they kind of had this lull
Speaker 1: in the middle of the regular season. It took I'll paraphrase,
Speaker 1: it took the ccent off of them for everybody, and
Speaker 1: then they just destroyed everybody the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, the Niners do, remind
Speaker 1: me of that three game losing streak, and here they come.
Speaker 1: They were my number one power rated team still heading
Speaker 1: into this week. They prove it with this. They go
Speaker 1: into Jacksonville and they just crushed them, the Niners with
Speaker 1: extra rest here thirty four to three. But this is
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville, right, So I'll say Jacksonville minus seven.
Speaker 1: It is six and a half basically painted everywhere. My
Speaker 1: only bet in my account so far is Jacksonville. Oh
Speaker 1: you bet, this edit already laid to six and a half.
Speaker 1: Is that more of a back Jacksonville or a fate
Speaker 1: of Tennis Welle a little bit of both expected Jaguars
Speaker 1: bounce back here, and then yeah, I think what we
Speaker 1: saw out e Leves this past week, and now you
Speaker 1: start looking back at what he's kind of done in
Speaker 1: the past the first couple games, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that that new quarterback shines worn off a little bit
Speaker 1: with him, and yeah, I think this jack Jacksonville deep.
Speaker 1: This is just just such a difference in right, and
Speaker 1: I think which leads me to the further just on
Speaker 1: the Niners, quick where it's the Doesn't it feel like
Speaker 1: every week that goes by, we are getting like fewer.
Speaker 1: It feels like there are fewer and fewer teams that
Speaker 1: actually can or will win. The Zuits exactly what I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you after this, the way that Seattle's playing.
Speaker 1: Let let's talk about like our bottom of our top ten,
Speaker 1: the way the Jacksonville's of the world played yesterday. Seattle
Speaker 1: just over the course of a few weeks. Now Detroit
Speaker 1: struggling to beat the Chargers.
Speaker 2: But you think about the Dolphins, right they we get
Speaker 2: excited about them going into Buffalo and Philly Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins and the Cowboys are bullies. Yes, to answer
Speaker 1: your question, yes, they resounding Yes. There's literally the wild
Speaker 1: card is Buffalo. I don't know what they are tonight,
Speaker 1: we'll find out. They're seven point favorites. I have them
Speaker 1: in the contest. They need to show up and crush
Speaker 1: in a game like this at home against Denver. But
Speaker 1: if they don't, it's like six weeks of playing myth football.
Speaker 1: So and they can't be included in that. San Francisco,
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, as you mentioned, Cincinnat's another one
Speaker 1: that looked Tar Baltimore and well, I'll still include Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That tough group still will do that more. Come next
Speaker 1: It'skal Alexander, It's Kelly Bilin. We get tweets at meeting
Speaker 1: the book. Always appreciate the feedback on the show. This
Speaker 1: is from Tony Farmer Tony's Tony's Market Tips. He says,
Speaker 1: I like your breakdown of the Bengals Texans game. I
Speaker 1: don't think Demiko Ryans gets enough credit for the timeouts
Speaker 1: he called at the end of the fourth quarter to
Speaker 1: make sure there was enough time. I don't think Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan or many others call those timeouts. What Tony's referring
Speaker 1: to is Demiko Ryans calling timeouts when the Bengals had
Speaker 1: that last sequence on offense, which resulted in a game
Speaker 1: tying field goal should have been a go ahead touchdown
Speaker 1: to Boyd, which he dropped. I will take issue with
Speaker 1: one thing. I think other coaches would have called those timeouts,
Speaker 1: smart coaches. I think Kyle Shanahan would have called those timeouts.
Speaker 1: But it does bring up the broader question of I
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier MVP market. Either the guys at the top
Speaker 1: of that market didn't play well. Yesterday, Lamar Burrow, who
Speaker 1: we were talking about as a bubbling under guy, he
Speaker 1: didn't play well, whereas others were just idle right, Hurts
Speaker 1: hasn't didn't play, and Mahomes didn't play. Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year is already a done deal with CJ. Stroud. Coach
Speaker 1: of the year is the real fascinating market still because
Speaker 1: you have Dan Campbell as the short shot at DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is currently at plus one fifty Demico Ryans
Speaker 1: the aforementioned is three to one, Mike McDaniels six to one,
Speaker 1: and Kevin O'Connell plus seven to fifty. By the way,
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin remains at twelve to one. So that market
Speaker 1: is still the most fascinating. If you were telling me
Speaker 1: right now, Gil, who do you think the coach of
Speaker 1: the year? Is you asking me right now? Who do
Speaker 1: I think legitimately's coach of the year right at this moment?
Speaker 1: I would say Tomiko Ryans. But Houston still has to
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs I think for that to manifest too,
Speaker 1: unless the Lions go fifteen and two or something like
Speaker 1: that and then you know, get a number one seed.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different paths for all of
Speaker 1: these guys. Dolphins have a path to that, for McDaniel,
Speaker 1: Tomlin has a path certainly certainly the Vikings, and Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell as a path which we'll get to here momentarily,
Speaker 1: also tweeting, let me not stop at that one. This
Speaker 1: is also from at Beating the book. I I want
Speaker 1: to go through all these here, Chris Heath, el Crito's
Speaker 1: own Tony Tony Tony, Yes, el Cerrito's own. Gilly Iice
Speaker 1: Butcher's my nickname, says Patriots fan over here, Gil, How
Speaker 1: glad are you not to have to review the Patriots
Speaker 1: Colts game? I mean, brutal game to watch. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: as opposed to last week, which is the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's like, all right, Germany, you like that one.
Speaker 1: Here are the Patriots and cults. I can't believe the
Speaker 1: Cults are five and five. The Colts are set up
Speaker 1: kind of nice too. The rest of the way here
Speaker 1: they're super excited. But yeah, the main upshot of that
Speaker 1: game was is it is it over for mac Jones?
Speaker 1: And what are the Patriots gonna do into Well, the
Speaker 1: Patriots are the one team that would draft a quarterback.
Speaker 1: A lot of these other teams, Like you wonder the
Speaker 1: Bear is gonna draft a quarterback? Are we one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure they are with one of their two picks
Speaker 1: of the top. And we'll get to Arizona, which clearly
Speaker 1: they're not tanking. What the heck are they doing? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then there's the Giants. What are
Speaker 1: they gonna do? They gonna draft a quarterback? I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know on all three, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the Bears, I think you're just there's so much the
Speaker 1: draft capital they already have and what they could potentially
Speaker 1: turn that into, Like, there's so many different things they
Speaker 1: can do. They get to enjoy all off season figuring
Speaker 1: that out. Phil Weiss, you know, Gil, I don't remember
Speaker 1: you all screaming that Carolina should have taken Stroud. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to check the tapes. I'll get back to
Speaker 1: you when I finished my research. Lol. That's great, Mike Stacks.
Speaker 1: With so many Bengals lost in Survivor and all the
Speaker 1: Cowboys us yesterday, Thanksgiving will have way less Cowboys used
Speaker 1: than original thought. Should be an interesting Turkey Day for
Speaker 1: Circus Survivor and Michael Burns. The hot hand is on
Speaker 1: air right now, Young Gills, stay hot, baby, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate that. Let's do some games. What do
Speaker 1: we got? We have the Cardinals at Texans last early
Speaker 1: window game. Cardinals beat the Falcons. They're two and eight
Speaker 1: against the aforementioned Texans, who are five and four Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yesterday's three to nothing Arizona after a Praterer fifty one
Speaker 1: yard field goal, Atlanta goes seventy five yards Heineke to
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller from two, seven to three Atlanta thirteen twenty
Speaker 1: seven left second quarter, seven to six Atlanta after a
Speaker 1: Prater forty six yard fieldal Atlanta goes seventy five again.
Speaker 1: Bijon in from five fourteen to six Atlanta four oh
Speaker 1: seven left second quarter, but then Arizona goes seventy five
Speaker 1: yards Kyler in from six out fourteen to twelve, two
Speaker 1: point attempt fail Kyler intended for Connor. That's the halftime score,
Speaker 1: fourteen to twelve Atlanta. Heineke at the half five of
Speaker 1: nine for thirty. Let me repeat that, five of nine
Speaker 1: for thirty. Murray in his return eleven for eighteen for
Speaker 1: one forty three two carries for thirteen yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Third quarter after an Atlanta three and out per fifty
Speaker 1: six yard field goal, and Arizona has their lead, their
Speaker 1: first lead, aren't actually second lead fifteen to fourteen. Then,
Speaker 1: after another Atlanta three and out, Murray picked by Nate
Speaker 1: Landman on first and ten from their own twenty five,
Speaker 1: Falcons can't get a first down, though they settle for
Speaker 1: a coup thirty six yard field goal. They go up
Speaker 1: again seventeen to fifteen, five eighteen left. Third quarter, teams
Speaker 1: trade three and outs, but Greg Dortch returns the Bradley
Speaker 1: Pinion punt forty nine yards, setting up Arizona at the
Speaker 1: Atlanta twenty one. Three plays later, Clayton tuned in from one,
Speaker 1: they put him in at the one, twenty two to
Speaker 1: seventeen Arizona. Heidike hurt though on the next drive for Atlanta,
Speaker 1: so Ritter's back in the game, and that ends with
Speaker 1: Ritter failing to convert on a fourth and one at
Speaker 1: the Arizona twenty one with eight ZHO one to go. Then,
Speaker 1: after an Arizona punt, Atlanta, though down five, goes seventy
Speaker 1: four yards, including an unbelievable drake London catch where he
Speaker 1: tipped the ball to himself. Ritterer in from nine twenty
Speaker 1: three to twenty two Falcons two point conversion fails, though
Speaker 1: Ritter intended for London two thirty three to go. Arizona
Speaker 1: down a point, gets to a third and ten at
Speaker 1: their own forty two, one fifty to go. Did you
Speaker 1: see this Kyler Murray scramble? Oh? Yeah, it ends up
Speaker 1: being a thirteen yard first down scramble. He probably he
Speaker 1: probably went fifty yards on the play least. Yeah. Can
Speaker 1: we say vintage Kyler Murray? Is that allowed? Close to it? Vintage?
Speaker 1: Then two plays later Murray to Trey McBride for thirty
Speaker 1: three forty seven seconds left. That sets up a praterer
Speaker 1: game winning twenty three yard or Arizona twenty five, Atlanta
Speaker 1: twenty three. Kyler Murray nineteen for thirty two for two
Speaker 1: forty nine in his return, no touchdowns, one pick. He
Speaker 1: was sacked twice, six carries for thirty three yards in
Speaker 1: the touchdown McBride eight for one thirty one. They did
Speaker 1: have eleven penalties for one hundred twelve yards. They overcame it.
Speaker 1: They held Atlanta to two hundred and fifty four total yards.
Speaker 1: They ain't taking Kelly Binlin. They ain't taking.
Speaker 2: Oh hey man, they're still alive for the playoffs. They
Speaker 2: just gotta like win out. Oh, they're definitely not taking though. Houston,
Speaker 2: who they're playing. We talked about them beating the Bengals.
Speaker 1: They've won five of seven now since their zero to
Speaker 1: two start under Demiko Ran. Stroud was twenty three of
Speaker 1: thirty nine for three fifty six, one touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was sacked once, two carries for eight yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He did have two fumbles lost Singletary thirty
Speaker 1: for one point fifty on the ground and the touchdown
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Seven catches for one seventy two five hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four total yards for the Texans versus three
Speaker 1: eighty for Cincinnati. Five total turnovers in that ballgame. Houston
Speaker 1: had three of them, but only one led directly to points.
Speaker 1: That last Cincinnati touchdown. Houston gets the win. And as
Speaker 1: we said earlier, yes, the MVP numbers in the betting
Speaker 1: markets for Stroud have come crashing down from about one
Speaker 1: hundred to one to thirty to one. But we're stupid
Speaker 1: human brains and we're only going to give him rook
Speaker 1: of the year, even though his resume lines up beautifully
Speaker 1: with all the others. I put Houston in no man's land.
Speaker 1: Five and a half at home. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: where it opened. Most spots, either five to five and
Speaker 1: a half has come down a little bit. Four and
Speaker 1: a half basically painted everywhere now. So yeah, it was
Speaker 1: five earlier at DraftKings down to four and a half
Speaker 1: kernel and that's why keep coming down. I'll bet you
Speaker 1: Texans if he keeps coming down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think this is the one I'll
Speaker 2: be staying far away from, just because, like you, you know,
Speaker 2: like like you kind of hinted at with the vintage.
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyler Murray. I don't know what to make of
Speaker 1: this Cardinals team right now. I think. Also overlooked a
Speaker 1: little bit is them getting James Connor back yesterday too,
Speaker 1: which he had been so good for them, not only
Speaker 1: last year but the beginning of this season two before
Speaker 1: he got injured. So it's a really a new look
Speaker 1: offense for the Cardinals. You're going forward, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, if you're in survivor. If you're still in survivor,
Speaker 1: this is the week before Thanksgiving. Houston Jacksonville or Cleveland.
Speaker 1: What do you like best? This is assuming you don't
Speaker 1: have any of the If you don't have Dallas left,
Speaker 1: you don't have Detroit left. Yeah, if you're left with
Speaker 1: those three tapes, I guess it's easy for me because
Speaker 1: I already said I bet them Jacks. It would be
Speaker 1: Jacks interesting, followed by the followed by the Browns because.
Speaker 2: I am interested in that side. This week is one
Speaker 2: more real quick right early early part of the late window.
Speaker 2: Buccaneers at forty nine ers the early late four five,
Speaker 2: four oh five, Starry Tampa Bay's four and five. We
Speaker 2: just talked about him. They be Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Mayfield was eighteen of twenty nine for two seventy eight,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked three times, Evans
Speaker 1: six for one forty three in a touchdown despite a
Speaker 1: horrific drop, and they outgained Tennessee three forty to two
Speaker 1: oh nine at the Niners, who blew out the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: As we discussed, Purdy was nineteen of twenty six for
Speaker 1: two ninety six, three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice.
Speaker 1: McCaffrey sixteen for ninety five on the ground six catches
Speaker 1: for forty seven, filling up the box score Kittle three
Speaker 1: for one sixteen. They held Jacksonville to twelve first downs,
Speaker 1: they outgained him four thirty seven to two twenty one,
Speaker 1: and they were plus four in turnovers, led directly to
Speaker 1: plus fourteen net San Francisco points. Tampa Bay at San Francisco,
Speaker 1: San Francisco by ten and a hook, ten point five,
Speaker 1: ten and a half here things, that's what it is,
Speaker 1: ten and a half or eleven everywhere? Ah, yes, what
Speaker 1: did I tell you before the show? Tampa Bay was
Speaker 1: six and three ats? Yeah, you said out there you
Speaker 1: could you could guess what Tampa Bay's ATS record. I
Speaker 1: never follow anything. Those six and three Well, I mean
Speaker 1: that's just random to me, it is. They're a random
Speaker 1: team in San Francisco. I ten and a half nailed
Speaker 1: that one. All right? Still so far, like Cleveland, still
Speaker 1: search up for more than just one game? How many
Speaker 1: more do we have to get to here? I don't
Speaker 1: imagine I am five four or five more? All right?
Speaker 1: Four four four more? All right, we'll do the two
Speaker 1: afternoon games and the two primetime games still to come.
Speaker 1: Guessing lines Week eleven on a numbers game and visa
Speaker 1: these sports betting network, Kail Alexander, It's Kelly Bitlin. We
Speaker 1: get tweets at beating the book. Always appreciate it once again.
Speaker 1: I say that, but I mean it. Jamie Lava at
Speaker 1: Jamie Lava twenty three. Coming from a family of a
Speaker 1: dad named Tony and a brother named Anthony, I feel
Speaker 1: like my parents dropped the ball when they named me Jamie.
Speaker 1: Just lazy, nineties are and b's the best? Glad you
Speaker 1: had fun? What was your Tony, Tony, Tony Tony? What
Speaker 1: was your He was the ten medows I'm start You
Speaker 1: got to see that movie. That movie cracks me right.
Speaker 1: What's the bit that he was the fourth tone? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the fourth because he's the manager of the guy.
Speaker 2: Forget the actor's name, but he plays like a pop
Speaker 2: star character, right, and he's the mandager and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I used to be part of a small group called
Speaker 2: Tony Tony, Tony Tony.
Speaker 1: It was a four Tony and they kicked me out.
Speaker 2: They weren't happy when I put a question mark at
Speaker 2: the end of mine, so it was Tony Tony Tony Tony.
Speaker 1: Weren't happy with the question mark. Three jackades thirty one.
Speaker 1: Thirty one took Sam Howell at thirty to one as
Speaker 1: passing yards leader, now down to seven to one. Is
Speaker 1: there a path for him to win? There's a passive path.
Speaker 1: He is the current leader. But keep in mind, of
Speaker 1: course the commodes haven't had their bye week yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so's he's actually played one more game than everybody. So yes,
Speaker 1: he's currently in the lead. He's got about a one
Speaker 1: not about he has exactly a one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: seven yard lead over C. J. Stroud. But again no
Speaker 1: buy yet, so he will have one week if you have,
Speaker 1: if you have a Howel ticket, you will just have
Speaker 1: to have one week where you just swallow hard and
Speaker 1: hope that people don't soar by him. Am I crazy
Speaker 1: or resis? Still it's like half the league or more
Speaker 1: that still hasn't had to buy yet, a lot of
Speaker 1: buys still to come, you could tell on guest kind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in week eleven already and this is at plus
Speaker 1: underscore money, he said, I shouted on. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he made a typo here, but basically he has
Speaker 1: a Shane Stiken Coach of the Year ticket at thirty
Speaker 1: five to one. Now Shane Steken is twenty five to one.
Speaker 1: He says, great value if they get a wild card spot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you bring up Shane Steiken
Speaker 1: because you're right. Without Anthony richardson one and without Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor right for most of this season, you could argue, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. They're five and five and by the way,
Speaker 1: from here to the end of the year. Like, you're right,
Speaker 1: they could get a wild card spot. Is that enough
Speaker 1: to overcome the Dan Campbell narrative, the Mike Tomlin narrative,
Speaker 1: the Demico Ryan's narrative, the Kevin O'Connell narrative. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great choices this year, and Shane
Speaker 1: Styken is among them. You're right, probably we should probably
Speaker 1: mention him in the in the in the same conversation.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he gets there me either. I
Speaker 1: hear you. I agree with everything you say. Yep. I
Speaker 1: think getting this one home is a lot more difficult
Speaker 1: than getting some of those other ones.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to make those four guys, You
Speaker 2: gotta make the playoffs, and you gotta do it with
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew, right, Like that is a you got a
Speaker 2: tough road ahead of you if you're the Indianapols.
Speaker 1: But even if you do, let's say the Colts do
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, you're still not a lock to
Speaker 1: win it. If you're Fret Stike.
Speaker 2: The Lions finished with the one sweet one seed, Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell's still taking it.
Speaker 1: Lions one seed, Vikings with Josh Dobbs, Steelers getting to
Speaker 1: the postseason, and the Texans. The Texans getting to the postseasons,
Speaker 1: to me, is still the the trump card for that.
Speaker 1: That's me. But I just think all four are better
Speaker 1: than the Stikeen the Auto. The Auto win no matter
Speaker 1: what else happens. Yes, because think of what you've thought
Speaker 1: of the text. I think you're right. I think you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we kind of said that last week, but
Speaker 1: now that it's becoming even closer to reality. Right, And
Speaker 1: remember with the Dan Campbell everybody's like, well, Dan Campbell's
Speaker 1: the favorite and of the Lions get the number one seed.
Speaker 1: But Nick Sirianni finished fifth last year with the Eagles fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and in the last year was the kind
Speaker 2: of the the hype, the hype going into Lions they
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna be good. You've already kind of
Speaker 2: had the the hype train going on Detroit. Right, this
Speaker 2: kind of feels like year two were one and a half.
Speaker 1: Agree, so I agree? Feels like ye, no, I I'm
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: I think Houston makes the playoffs. Demiko Ryans wins that award.
Speaker 2: I do too, And that's yeah. I mean Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 2: People be like, what are you talking about? Is Josh
Speaker 2: Dobbs off the street? Yeah, but i'd still good dim go.
Speaker 1: That's just me. I think the Shane Steichen thing is
Speaker 1: a good point. We probably should mention him. But that's all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, what's next? Jets at Bills four twenty five Easter,
Speaker 1: the four and five Jets at the five and or
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Bill's sight unseen. They played tonight. They host
Speaker 1: the Broncos, their seven point favorites. I have them as
Speaker 1: my fifth play in the contest. Please Bills make this happen.
Speaker 1: This would be over sixty percent for me if the
Speaker 1: Bills get it done. Time to talk. If that happens,
Speaker 1: I'll say Bill's minus seven here again, sight unseen.
Speaker 2: This is Bills minus seven. This line's been cracking me
Speaker 2: up the most this morning because I think it opens
Speaker 2: six and a half most places.
Speaker 1: So the game tonight really hasn't been beat at tons
Speaker 1: to the Bills side yet the Bills and Jets is
Speaker 1: getting beat. I brought up earlier, how like we talked about, Okay,
Speaker 1: the number of teams that can actually win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl is maybe as crystallized as it's ever been this
Speaker 1: year where I think there's four teams, But I do
Speaker 1: think the Bills are the wild card fifth because all
Speaker 1: it would take is one Like if the Bills come
Speaker 1: out tonight and they win forty five to seven, you
Speaker 1: will instantly toggle back to the Bills are just this
Speaker 1: good at times, but if they struggle again, it will
Speaker 1: have been what a month and a half where they
Speaker 1: haven't played good football.
Speaker 2: So I just don't know, man, Like I'm still a
Speaker 2: believer like Josh Allen, I think it's more hurt than
Speaker 2: we really know. And we've seen this defense with this
Speaker 2: injuries have done.
Speaker 1: To this defense. The defense is the problem. I will
Speaker 1: that's the biggest part. That's the biggest part of it.
Speaker 1: You're right, even though Eagers and shots and all those
Speaker 1: guys come out and I can't even get the MVP
Speaker 1: question now, and they're like Alan Josh, I know I
Speaker 1: can't put I can't even think to put him in
Speaker 1: that group.
Speaker 2: And I think we're thinking about the exact same four teams.
Speaker 2: I can't put him in there.
Speaker 1: No, I can't currently for sure, I can't. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, if they here, they have the Broncos followed
Speaker 1: by the Jets, if they go crush mode, crush mode, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we're thinking about it then, yeah? Or do we
Speaker 1: just put him in the bullies bile? You know at
Speaker 1: that point? All right? What's next? Next? Up? Seahawks at
Speaker 1: Rams for twenty five Eastern The Seahawks at the Rams.
Speaker 1: Will we get Matt Stafford or not? We don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Does it matter? Seahawks are six and three, The Rams
Speaker 1: are three and six. GINO yesterday and beating Washington thirty
Speaker 1: one for forty seven for three sixty nine, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. He was sacked once. Walker nineteen for sixty
Speaker 1: three on the ground, one catch for sixty four in
Speaker 1: the touch which we talked about. Metcalf seven for ninety eight,
Speaker 1: seven catches for ninety eight yards. Locket eight catches for
Speaker 1: ninety two in a touch, four hundred and eighty nine
Speaker 1: total yards for the Seahawks at the Rams, who were
Speaker 1: idle in a season where again, by the way, all
Speaker 1: this you me and Matt used to talk about this
Speaker 1: on Primetime Action, and I think I talked about in
Speaker 1: a numbers game, which is after the Rams won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's like, Matt Stafford, you have all these injuries,
Speaker 1: what do you have left to prove? You won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? You're a borderline Hall of Famer. You're probably stats,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, probably puts him in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. I know that's crazy, but he compiled so many,
Speaker 1: you know, amassed great stats in Detroit. Then he went
Speaker 1: to Super Bowls, Like, what do you have left to prove?
Speaker 1: He's getting that kind of buzz. Now are you hearing that?
Speaker 1: People are like are you retiring? Like why are you
Speaker 1: doing you know this sort of thing, and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I want to keep playing. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's going to play in this game or got so
Speaker 1: much respect for it, because I would never I would
Speaker 1: be tapped out. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm retired.
Speaker 1: He's he's all about it. He wants to keep playing.
Speaker 1: Good for him. I think if he plays, it's Seattle.
Speaker 1: I split the difference between to pick him in the three,
Speaker 1: I said, Seattle minus one and a half. But I
Speaker 1: hate this game. I would never touch this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, we're Seattle two and a half. There is
Speaker 1: a three where it's three at draftings right now, but
Speaker 1: juiced to the Rams side, it is mainly two and
Speaker 1: a halves out there, mainly two and a half. That
Speaker 1: might be the answer to the question of a game
Speaker 1: I want no part of because I could. I could
Speaker 1: Rams show it up for this game. Seattle is completely
Speaker 1: a fraud.
Speaker 2: Also, if I had to guess sitting here on Monday,
Speaker 2: I would I think Stafford plays in this.
Speaker 1: I think so, but I guess I'm not positive. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been burned by Seattle too many times. Now this
Speaker 1: is six and three. Your record's cute, but I don't
Speaker 1: know how your record. Your record is adorable? You with
Speaker 1: you agree with me? On uh on Coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: you'd go Demiico over everybody like, yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: must make a bet today. What would you bet? What's
Speaker 1: he at again? Is he down at three to one?
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Three to one? It's not
Speaker 1: very sexy anymore at three to one. It's not, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's still the bet I would make. I think. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. This is a time.
Speaker 2: I mean, the question, of course, is what happens if
Speaker 2: what happens if the Lions get the one seed in
Speaker 2: the NFC and Houston makes the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Say again, I won't even go that.
Speaker 2: I've benna, go Lions get the one seed, Houston makes
Speaker 2: the playoffs as the sixth seed. They're not even the
Speaker 2: last team in Houston.
Speaker 1: I think so too, So I think it's to be
Speaker 1: go o Ryan's then I think so, I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: but if they don't make the playoffs and say Minnesota does,
Speaker 1: you got no chance? Then no, it's like you have
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs to win. We'll get we'll get
Speaker 1: to this tomorrow with Heisman because we don't tell college
Speaker 1: football on Mondays with guessing lines. But we'll get to
Speaker 1: this with the Heisman Trophy award tomorrow, which is the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy market, I mean, which is if you do
Speaker 1: blind resume between bow Nix, Michael Pennix and Jayden dani Yes,
Speaker 1: like it's it's just the three losses that make you
Speaker 1: not like the So that's the thing. So the the
Speaker 1: MVP voters are all the Aaron shots of the world,
Speaker 1: like the NFL voters tend to be more analytical and
Speaker 1: more analytical and more analytics driven as time goes on,
Speaker 1: almost to the point where they're too close to the
Speaker 1: sun on that they're two in the weeds with analytics.
Speaker 1: The Heisman is the exact opposite, where you think it's
Speaker 1: more of a brain dead populace and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: let's us lost three times, so he's out. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that will apply to Coach of the Year, where
Speaker 1: you just have to have some kind of tie breaker.
Speaker 2: I feel like the college thing though, is like he
Speaker 2: gets punished because their defense.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what gets punished. That's what's happening by the
Speaker 1: Texans right now plus one oh five to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Like if you are betting yes for them to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you beto, yeah, all right, primetime games coming up?
Speaker 1: Looking for value numbers game vs. In these sports betting network,
Speaker 1: we get texts, we get tweets. Michael Montisano, who won
Speaker 1: the Booby Prize at Circle the first year, he agrees
Speaker 1: with me about the whole Jade and Daniels thing, which
Speaker 1: we'll talk about tomorrow, which is I mentioned just because
Speaker 1: they have three losses. Those the Heisman voters. Again, this
Speaker 1: gets back to our original segment where it's like human
Speaker 1: beings are dumb. They're just gonna not give him the
Speaker 1: Heisman because LSU has three losses and he says to me, goes.
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud was the favorite this two years ago.
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud was a favorite for the Heisman. I
Speaker 1: believe minus two hundred before the Michigan game that year.
Speaker 1: His defense sucked and he was awesome in the game.
Speaker 1: He lost the Heisman because of it. Bryce Young had
Speaker 1: that incredible drive to beat Auburn got to the SEC
Speaker 1: Championship game. I remember because I had Stroud forty to one.
Speaker 1: This in relation to Daniel's winning. That's all. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: it takes sometimes these so like I'm gonna rush and
Speaker 1: make like I didn't make that bet yesterday, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make that bet today, and it's probably just throwing
Speaker 1: money into into the fire. Jayden Daniels, Yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: Look, you can't pull up college football stats and think
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is not the obvious Heisman favorite.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's obvious, but he gets the
Speaker 1: nod from me because generally he's been Yeah, generally he's
Speaker 1: been AMERICAUS well. He the separator for him is there
Speaker 1: is on the ground. Also like his first of all,
Speaker 1: he destroys. He knocks off bow Nicks in every category,
Speaker 1: but Oregon has one loss in the LSUS three. That's
Speaker 1: all it's gonna come down to for some people.
Speaker 2: So he's twenty seventh in the country in rushing ya oh,
Speaker 2: the third and past.
Speaker 1: We'll do it all tomorrow. Like it's just there's so
Speaker 1: many that he like. The rushing touchdowns puts him over everybody.
Speaker 1: We get tweets at bit in the book Charlie d
Speaker 1: Usa number one. George Foreman will see your three tonys
Speaker 1: and raise you all five of his son's name, A
Speaker 1: son's named George. Great show and Kelly doing a great job.
Speaker 1: I can still hear Chrissy voice saying I like your
Speaker 1: line better. Yes, we miss Chrissy for sure. Ye. Prime
Speaker 1: Time Cowboys underscore cubs one, which is a better preemptive
Speaker 1: opening statement from Kelly? I'm sorry? Or am I crazy?
Speaker 1: He says both of those A lot. I'm sorry is
Speaker 1: the best one from your called what call take? I'm sorry?
Speaker 1: Oh khi Leonard of that Clipper teams to struggling right now,
Speaker 1: still chance for Chris Singleton to overcome him, Alan Mitchell
Speaker 1: was Jim Brown. I'll talk about c J. Stroud, how
Speaker 1: I said he's gonna win Rookie of the Year, but
Speaker 1: they're just not going to give him m VP no
Speaker 1: matter what his stats are, Alan Mitchell said, was Jim
Speaker 1: Brown the only player to win Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: at m VP the same year? Thanks, yes, Allan. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he was nineteen hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: seven and the first year it was the first year
Speaker 1: they did did awards, right, Oh? Is that right? I
Speaker 1: believes So if you're if you're if you betting c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud to win MVP, you're bucking sixty six years of
Speaker 1: that not happening. By the way, real quick, since we're
Speaker 1: talking trivia, can you name the only two baseball players
Speaker 1: to win both Rookie of the Year and MVP in
Speaker 1: the same season, Barry Bond No, no, fred linn and
Speaker 1: Ichiro Oh and you name the only two in the
Speaker 1: NBA to win Rookie of the Year in MVP same
Speaker 1: year oof? No? I can't. Obviously, it would be the
Speaker 1: same year Wilt Chamberlain and West unzlt okay late great
Speaker 1: West on sale. I mean, like Will, it's the obvious
Speaker 1: answer to just anything. And this might be this might
Speaker 1: be the greatest give me a trivia, who's the only player,
Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain? This might be the uh, this might be
Speaker 1: the greatest tweet we've ever gotten. Mike Boreal gil My
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Survivor season ended with Cincy and Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I feel like my wife just left me with my
Speaker 1: best friend, and boy do I miss him? That's great?
Speaker 1: Oh man, and oh damn, sorry, this is very nice. Diego,
Speaker 1: Gway Tech and Diego. Did anyone ever tell you that
Speaker 1: you have a smooth nighttime DJ voice? Oh no, No
Speaker 1: one's ever told me that such a great future, that
Speaker 1: such a great reprieve from the blaring commercial breaks. Love
Speaker 1: this show. Thank you. There was a time, Diego where
Speaker 1: I lived that life. All right? We got two primetime
Speaker 1: games to get to. Can we find more value? Please?
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, The Viking at Broncos, the six and
Speaker 1: four Minnesota Vikings at the three and five Broncos. Who
Speaker 1: again in the side unseen. They haven't played. They played
Speaker 1: a night Minnesota against the Saints. This is another one
Speaker 1: that guessing lines just again couldn't have been a better
Speaker 1: exercise for us, because I did the whole thing about
Speaker 1: I just feel like Dobbs is better than car and
Speaker 1: the rest of the market sees it differently. Three to
Speaker 1: three games, second quarter, Minnesota goes seventy five yards, including
Speaker 1: an amazing Dobbs to Hawkinson twenty four yard pass and
Speaker 1: catch on a Dobbs scramble on third and five at
Speaker 1: the New Orleans twenty eight. Two plays later, Ty Chandler
Speaker 1: in from two ten to three Minnesota. After New Orleans
Speaker 1: three and out, Minnesota goes eighty two yards Dobbs to
Speaker 1: Addison from twenty nine and to Hackinson for twenty one
Speaker 1: on the drive third and six of the New Orleans seven,
Speaker 1: a tremendous Dobbs scramble and run to Peter seventeen to
Speaker 1: three Minnesota three twenty four left. Second quarter, He's amazing man.
Speaker 1: After another New Orleans three and ount, Minnesota starts at
Speaker 1: their own twenty four with one forty seven left, goes
Speaker 1: seventy six yards no problem, Dobbs to Hockinson, his fifth
Speaker 1: catch of the drive, tenth of the half from twenty
Speaker 1: eight out twenty four to three Vikings halftime. At halftime,
Speaker 1: Carl was nine to fourteen for sixty three. Dobbs eighteen
Speaker 1: of twenty two for two to twenty in a touch,
Speaker 1: Six carries for forty yards and a touchdown. How many
Speaker 1: people do you think thought I was crazy when I
Speaker 1: said that I thought Dobbs was so much better than
Speaker 1: Carl last week. They're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: At least ninety percent I would say, so, well, there
Speaker 1: you go. Third quarter, twenty seven to three Minnesota. Now
Speaker 1: Car and medical tent had a shoulder injury and concussion
Speaker 1: protocol at that point. After getting high load on a
Speaker 1: completion to a lave, then two plays later Kamera converts
Speaker 1: a fourth in inches. Next play, jamis your boys in
Speaker 1: what up? To a lave for twenty then to a
Speaker 1: lave in the corner of the end zone. Beautiful pass
Speaker 1: by Jamis from fourteen out two point conversion from Kamara
Speaker 1: good twenty seven to eleven Minnesota. New Orleans knows math.
Speaker 1: They know that twenty four is divisible by eight three
Speaker 1: times twenty six. Left the third quarter after trade of
Speaker 1: punts had a miss Joseph fifty four yarder. New Orleans
Speaker 1: goes fifty six yards, including a fourth and two conversion.
Speaker 1: James to a lobby for twenty six. Jamis that is,
Speaker 1: to a lobby for twenty six. Then three plays later,
Speaker 1: on third and eight at the Minnesota fifteen, Jamis to
Speaker 1: at Perry for fifteen across the field, he rests the
Speaker 1: ball away from Byron Murphy Junior, touchdown Saints Kamara in
Speaker 1: on the two point conversion twenty seven to nineteen, Minnesota
Speaker 1: eleven forty to go. Then, after a trade of punts
Speaker 1: in another Minnesota punt, New Orleans third and three at
Speaker 1: their own forty four with three thirteen to go. Remember
Speaker 1: they're only down one score, Jamis picked by Mackay Blackman,
Speaker 1: but they would force a Minnesota three and out. The
Speaker 1: Saints would they get it back with two oh seven
Speaker 1: to go, down eight, but first and ten at their
Speaker 1: own forty six, one fifty six to go, Jamis picked
Speaker 1: deep by Byron Murphy Junior. They would have to survive
Speaker 1: a hail Mary on the game's final play after another
Speaker 1: three and out, but that would be the ball game.
Speaker 1: Minnesota twenty seven, New Orleans nineteen dops twenty three of
Speaker 1: thirty four for two sixty eight, one touchdown, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked once. Eight catches for forty four yards.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, eight carries rather for forty four yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Hockinson ends up eleven for one thirty four
Speaker 1: in a touch Minnesota held New orleanso two hundred eighty yards.
Speaker 1: They were plus two in turnovers those late two Jamis
Speaker 1: picks to preserve the win. Minnesota at Denver again, Denver
Speaker 1: places tonight. I will say Minnesota minus three on the
Speaker 1: road by a field goal. Think you found some value
Speaker 1: because we're Broncos to one and a half or two
Speaker 1: in this game. Give me the Vikings, wrong team favorite
Speaker 1: this is. We're gonna do this every week with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna give Dobbs his respect.
Speaker 2: No, apparently, apparently it's gonna take a few more weeks.
Speaker 1: When you watch football, are there are there ten quarterbacks
Speaker 1: better than this guy? Because if you if you answer
Speaker 1: yes quickly, you're not watching enough football. There might be ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anal tuck, it's not a lock. This team is.
Speaker 1: This team is better off with him than Cousins. And
Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy to people. No, that is crazy.
Speaker 1: Come on, they are because I'll tell you why. This
Speaker 1: is from a guy who was a Commander's fan. Before
Speaker 1: they were the Commanders, they were called something else. Kelly
Speaker 1: and I watched every step of Kirk cousins career. Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is a great front runner. He's, by the way,
Speaker 1: Cousins was having a great year too. But Cousins is
Speaker 1: plagued by late game poor decision making, which was which
Speaker 1: has been Derek Carr's bugaboo for his entire career. Joshua
Speaker 1: Wao Dobs is the exact opposite of this. He is
Speaker 1: always making the play and people refuse to accept it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, keep refusing, keep refusing. This guy's good, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good I think I
Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins gives this team a much better chance
Speaker 1: of winning. I would disagree with you wholeheart, a much
Speaker 1: better chance of winning. Have you watched football? Yes, with
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I don't know much better might be. It
Speaker 1: might be a stretch, but you either give him a
Speaker 1: better show. Okay, that's just agreement. You're allowed to say better.
Speaker 1: That's that's a distance zone because you just can't say much.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Dobbs, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to disrespect my saying much better.
Speaker 2: You're right, I'm just amazing what he's doing. I just
Speaker 2: don't know what did he what do he get cut
Speaker 2: by three teams? What were they?
Speaker 1: More than that? That's that's true. They're watching him in practice.
Speaker 1: But that's that comes with the inherent bias of these
Speaker 1: guys pedigrees, right, And it comes with the inherent bias
Speaker 1: of where you draft guys. It comes with the inherent
Speaker 1: bias of then how you perceive them. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: Great convent? We still got one game to go. Sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, what's next? Oh my god, it's the best
Speaker 1: game of the week. Yes, Monday Night eight and one,
Speaker 1: Eagles seven and two Chiefs, Chiefs minus three. Neither team
Speaker 1: this is two and a half. Oh no, it is
Speaker 1: up to three. It is.
Speaker 2: There is one two and a half, A couple two
Speaker 2: and a halfs out, There is three at DraftKings three
Speaker 2: most places now.
Speaker 1: Could be some rain I'm hearing in this game. Man,
Speaker 1: I was not running the way two and a half.
Speaker 1: That's actually that's I'm surprised we're painted three. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think I could get to an e. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are one of these teams too, that they've been getting
Speaker 1: by in games. I think this is where they moved.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Eagles teaser legged. Possibly, but I'll wait
Speaker 1: and see where this moves. Vikings and Brown's my two
Speaker 1: favorite of the week. We've done all we can do.