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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into a Wednesday ed istion of Texans All

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Speaker 2: Access from the Unday Texans Radio studio Sean Harris, alongside

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Speaker 2: the Voice of the Texans Mark Vanderbuy.

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Speaker 1: We got plenty for you. Old Later in the show,

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassio.

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Speaker 2: Jumped on with Jim Rome, and there's some good stuff

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Speaker 2: here from Radio Row, which there's an interesting article on

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Speaker 2: Awful Announcing that talked about Radio Row at the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: which I think is pretty interesting stuff Mark about the

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Speaker 2: impact of Radio Row, how it's changed over the years,

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But Jim Rome had Nick

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Speaker 2: casarions wef that interview for you a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in the show because that there was some good stuff

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Speaker 2: there from Nick. And I know, I say the Patriots guys,

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Speaker 2: but Josh McDaniels, Nick Cassario, I know those two in particular,

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Speaker 2: they were huge Rome fans and they used to listen

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Speaker 2: to Sean on the Smackoff, and that's how Nick has

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Speaker 2: known of Sean Pendergass, who hosts on Sports Radio six ten,

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Speaker 2: So that that's how they've known for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be good stuff coming from that. But Mark,

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Speaker 2: how you know by the way.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great and you bring up Jim Rome. This

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Speaker 3: is an absolute legend. This is somebody who was really

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Speaker 3: important to the development the emergence of Sports Radio six

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Speaker 3: ten to become the station it was, I mean, and

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Speaker 3: it is I should say it was, because what Jim

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Speaker 3: Rome was was absolutely huge for Houston. He did tour

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Speaker 3: stops here. He came and did a late in his

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Speaker 3: and it was massive. It wasn't as massive as the

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Speaker 3: earlier tour stops, but it was still huge. It was

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Speaker 3: the kind of thing that just wouldn't happen today. So

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Speaker 3: Rome has been big for Sports Radio sixten over the years,

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Speaker 3: and Sports Radio six ten has.

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Speaker 4: Been big for Rome.

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Speaker 3: There was a time when I joined the station in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and two where they thought about again tape

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Speaker 3: delaying Rome from noon to three instead of eleven to

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Speaker 3: tried it once before I was here, and they said

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Speaker 3: we're not going to go that way again because they

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Speaker 3: received so many complaints, including Jim Rome saying bang the Monkey,

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Speaker 3: which is his way of saying, tell your program director

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Speaker 3: to not do this. He is the program director in

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Speaker 3: every market to Jim Rome, but he I don't think

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Speaker 3: you'll ever have a sports radio host as successful as

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Speaker 3: he was, again on so many different radio stations, that

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Speaker 3: full three hour show.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was incredible. That was Rush Limbaugh.

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Speaker 3: Like in a sports universe, that was Howard Stern, like

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Speaker 3: in a sports universe, Jim Rome.

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Speaker 4: There was nobody else like him.

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Speaker 3: You know, you could say Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick, all

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Speaker 4: It's not the same thing. Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's a different world now because he's on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Started with what did he start with, barb Stool, I

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Speaker 3: didn't even know, but but he went to YouTube and

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Speaker 3: then ESPN picks him up and he's still on YouTube

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Speaker 3: and he's gigantic, of course, but it's hard to compare anything.

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Speaker 3: It's not apples to apples. Rome was Rome and Rome

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Speaker 3: is still, you know, big in his own way. And

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun to hear that conversation with Nick.

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Speaker 3: I've already heard it. You have heard it, but maybe

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Speaker 3: some of the listeners missed it. So that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely have it later. In the show.

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Speaker 2: I remember when Pat McAfee got his first hooks into

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Speaker 2: the media game, and that was actually with us on

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Speaker 2: Houston Texas dot Com. He was floating around at the

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen combine twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen, one of

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Speaker 2: those two years, and Deep City was like, I want

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Speaker 2: to I want to interview him.

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Speaker 1: It's like okay, and he was fantastic yep.

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Speaker 2: And I remember dep getting done and was like, holy cow,

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Speaker 2: he was so good. He was so complimentary of Houston,

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Speaker 2: huh okay, Pat McFee. And then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: he's grown into obviously what he is. He's incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but you've have all the other cronies who are brilliant

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Speaker 2: in their own way, and they all add their own

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Speaker 2: more the Pat McAfee team that it is the Pat

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Speaker 2: McAfee show, which makes it you know, beautiful, but Jim

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Speaker 2: Rome his team was all callers that called in and

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of radio, I was on Radio Tech SAgs

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Speaker 2: Radio with my buddy David Nuno, your.

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Speaker 1: Buddy as well.

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Speaker 2: He asked me an interesting question that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: bounce off of you, and I wanted to give it

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Speaker 2: a Texans slant, if you will, I want to hear

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Speaker 2: your answer to this, And at first I heard, I

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Speaker 2: was like, hmm had I had to kind of think

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Speaker 2: here's my answer. So here's the question. Watching the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: win the super Bowl the other night, what did you

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Speaker 2: take from it? And I thought, what did I take

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Speaker 2: from the Seahawks winning the super Bowl against the Patriots

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Speaker 2: the other night? What did I take from it that

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Speaker 2: we could essentially apply to the Texans? And I had

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Speaker 2: to think about that for a second, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: here's my answer, Okay, I want to hear it. You

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Speaker 2: don't and didn't have to have that quarterback to go

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Speaker 2: win the big game. You could rely on the defense,

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Speaker 2: special teams in offense just had to do their jobs

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Speaker 2: without being overly spectacular. It didn't all fall back in

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Speaker 2: the hands you having to have a Matt Stafford or

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Speaker 2: a Joe Burrow or a Patrick Mahomes to go win

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Speaker 2: a championship. As long as the defense was built properly,

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Speaker 2: the defense played well together, it was unselfish, and then

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Speaker 2: at the time of contact, they were as dominant as

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Speaker 2: I followed up with this Mark I said, I think

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Speaker 2: the NFL, at least for the next couple of years,

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Speaker 2: is gonna be led by teams that have defenses the

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Speaker 2: one of those defenses.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos have one of those.

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Speaker 2: That you can win a Super Bowl that way, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's almost easier to win that way because you're

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Speaker 2: not paying a quarterback sixty sixty five million, seventy million,

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Speaker 2: whatever the number is going to be down the road

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Speaker 2: that you absolutely have to hit on that guy, because

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Speaker 2: if you don't, that's money poorly spent.

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Speaker 1: You can't spend on a defense.

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Speaker 2: But if you pour it into the defensive unit, you're

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Speaker 2: not paying anybody on that side of the ball sixty

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Speaker 2: million dollars. You can go find all the right pieces,

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Speaker 2: make the plays, and make sure that the offense and

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Speaker 2: special teams do enough to make sure that they don't

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Speaker 2: give the game back to somebody that we're gonna win

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Speaker 2: with defense over the next two or three years. What

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Speaker 2: did the Seattle Seahawks win over the Patriots? Tell you

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Speaker 2: as it pertained a the Texans be to kind of

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Speaker 2: the shorter future of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Well, my first phrase, the first phrase that popped into

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Speaker 3: my head when you asked the question was defense wins championships.

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Speaker 4: And the old slogan.

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Speaker 3: Defense win championships, and they've been saying it since the

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Speaker 3: Stone Age of football, but it became laughable after a

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Speaker 3: while because we had what was the year with Jared

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Speaker 3: twenty eighth, all those high scoring games, and you just

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Speaker 3: felt like, if you don't have that quarterback, if you

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Speaker 3: don't have Mahomes, Brady Burrow, you have no shot.

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Speaker 4: And we always talk about Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Buru's been to one Super Bowl, okay, and you

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Speaker 3: and I were talking about him. The other has trouble

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Speaker 3: A couple of things. Yeah, you mentioned defense. These are

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Speaker 3: two defensive coaches, right, These are not offensive coordinators. These

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Speaker 3: to work it out. I mean, Seattle's gonna lose Kubiak.

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Speaker 3: They got to find a way to work it out.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots still have Josh McDaniels, who is no threat

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Speaker 3: to leave as a head coach. What an ideal situation

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Speaker 3: a great offensive coordinator, not a good head coach, at

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Speaker 3: least in his first two stints, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: he gets another. So good for them. But here's the

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Speaker 3: other thing you mentioned, Sam Darnold. You don't have the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's with his fifth team and wins the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And look, give him credit, he played well, but he

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Speaker 3: led the league in turnovers in the regular season. Then

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Speaker 3: you have Drake May on the other side year two,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, Drake May, say what you will. He

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Speaker 3: had a good regular season, no question about it. But

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Speaker 3: we all talked about the schedule. We all talked about

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Speaker 3: how much of this is schedule is just a fortuitous

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Speaker 3: we'll let that one play out, but I'm here to

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Speaker 3: say it might not play out the way the Patriots

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Speaker 3: fans wanted to. He might just be an okay quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Who was the other quarterback in the AFC Championship game, Well,

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Speaker 3: it was Stidham, But the week before, let's say Knicks

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Speaker 3: Bon Nicks might turn out to be Dan Marino, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think he will. So your point is highly

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Speaker 3: valid here. Defenses can get you there and maybe will

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Speaker 4: As long as you're hanging there quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And with the Texans, I think that's what has everybody's

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Speaker 4: That you had CJ. Strodd with that rookie year, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud, with the bulk of the games he's played in

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Speaker 3: his career, just fine, thank you, if not better, if

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Speaker 3: not elite at times, and certainly good enough to win

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Speaker 3: with this defense. But you had the worst case Narry

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Speaker 3: you had four interceptions, and my gosh, it's still hard

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Speaker 3: to even say and digest and get through.

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Speaker 4: But moving forward, you don't give up on him.

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Speaker 3: You run it back with this defense, you four to

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Speaker 3: five where you have to and as I say, run

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Speaker 3: it back, Look, Jalen Reid, Jalen Smith, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: is gonna make, the Miko's gonna want, and you've improved

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Speaker 3: the offense, and I think that you'll have a team

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Speaker 3: that will be there again with an opportunity. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying divisional round automatically, but you'll be in the postseason

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Speaker 3: and you'll have that op to go further. You just

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Speaker 3: got to execute next time. So that's what I took

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Speaker 3: away from it. We're in this era. Here's another one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw this at you. Were you at all

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Speaker 3: worried because I was rooting for the shutout the day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was also worried. The back of my

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Speaker 3: mind was thinking, what's the league gonna do about this?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access,

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Speaker 2: John Harris and Mark vandmir with you a reminder. How

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Speaker 2: about tonight Love Volleyball Houston taking on Love Volleyball Nebraska. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This is kind of a second home opener for Love

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Speaker 3: love soccer. Sometimes I go to soccer and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is great, except for the soccer game.

435
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Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I'm kidding soccer fans.

436
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

437
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Speaker 3: Don't don't stoke the fire, bit fans, But this is

438
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: really fast paced bang bag I mean they are really good.

439
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: These are the best players on the planet in this league,

440
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: so among the best anyway, and you're gonna enjoy it

441
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: tonight at the Epicenter for Ben County.

442
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Speaker 2: I am a secret volleyball fan. I love I love volleyball.

443
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: I will watch viball on TV. I will watch it live.

444
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: I love it.

445
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: I love to watch live the men's game. It's funny

446
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: talking to Shelby Coppice, our good friend to the sidelines

447
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: for TV. She's like, Yeah, the men's game is all

448
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 2: about power, and I'm telling you it's impressive to watch

449
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: that power. But when you watch, when you watch, whether

450
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: it's women's college vollyball, I mean high school vollyball, but

451
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: professional vieball, I mean it's impressive to watch what they do.

452
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: So Houston, Nebraska.

453
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 3: Because you said Shelby does sideline. Look, she does sideline

454
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: for Yes Texans preseason TV.

455
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: Yes, she's the.

456
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: National play by playofnouncer on USA for the Wednesday night Slate.

457
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: That's amazing strong, I.

458
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Mean that is that is absolutely amazing for her.

459
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

460
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for Ben County Epicenter, seven o'clock to night.

461
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: Love Allyball, Houston, Love villyaball Nebraska. Get out there if

462
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 2: you get an opportunity, and if you see Mark, tell them,

463
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: tell him hello, because Mark is always one for that,

464
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: all right, It's not for either or. These are always

465
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: really fun to kind of bat around. We're gonna start

466
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: with a couple of Texans ones and I always love

467
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: asking these. I get them myself, so I love to

468
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: throw them at Mark to see what he thinks, because

469
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: sometimes when it comes to the draft, we think oppositely

470
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: signed Trevor Lawrence.

471
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, first one.

472
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Speaker 2: Pick number twenty eight, where the Texans are picking right now?

473
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: Are the Texans staying pat or ruining the first round

474
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: of the party by trading out.

475
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: They are, Oh, this is a good one, because they

476
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: did that last year.

477
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: They did kind of got overshadowed at the party itself

478
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: by the fact that we had a huge rainstorm blow through,

479
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: and that kind of ruled that, i'll put it in

480
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: air quotes, ruin the draft party. So by the time

481
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: that the pick was traded, it was like, okay, fine,

482
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: we'll just do it all Friday night.

483
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: Great.

484
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 3: I almost wonder if Nick is gonna tip everybody off

485
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: and say, listen this draft party that that you might

486
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: be planning plan it for Friday, okay, because Johnny, you know,

487
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: he's gonna pick two or three times on Friday, even

488
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: if he holds out of the first round pick. Sometimes

489
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: I think, all right, why don't we just make the

490
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: party Friday night. We can celebrate the first round pick

491
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: if it does happen, and then have at least two

492
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: or three picks on Friday night. Because Nick can't help himself.

493
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: He's gonna make two or three picks on Friday night.

494
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: He loves that second third round wheelhouse.

495
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: You know that.

496
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Speaker 1: You know that.

497
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Speaker 3: So I say, yes, he's gonna ruin the draft party again,

498
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: but he might ruin it before it happens, so it

499
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 3: doesn't really ruin it me. We might be able to reschedule.

500
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: That's a prediction. I have no idea what's really gonna happen.

501
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: Maybe moving up, but that's my pack right now.

502
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: So obviously, I've been in draft coverage for a while

503
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: and I'm really really diving into it right now. I'll

504
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: be honest, I don't love number twenty eight at all.

505
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: I I just don't love it.

506
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: How do you know who's available at twenty eight?

507
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's because I've been running right, and I know

508
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: what my boards look like, and I know what teams

509
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: in front of the Texans are looking for. And I

510
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: also know this is not a quarterback draft. And because

511
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: it's not a quarterback draft, then all of a sudden,

512
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: all those great players that get pushed down in a

513
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: quarterback draft are.

514
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Not gonna be there. They're gonna be gone.

515
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Teams are not going to jump in front of the

516
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Texans that go draft a bunch of quarterbacks. Now it

517
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: might happen for one team that's it, but this is

518
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: not one of those where you're gonna have six quarters taking.

519
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: It's not like last year where the Giants wanted to

520
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: get up and get Jackson Dart and they gave the

521
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Texans additional draft land Yap to move up to twenty

522
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: five and the Texans move out of the first round. Now, Texas,

523
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: we're trying to get back in the first round. Didn't happen.

524
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: I think it worked out very well because they got

525
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 2: Jayon Higgins and then with that other pick they got,

526
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: they got Jalen Smith, who's gonna play a big role.

527
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: I think you bring up a great point. Just put

528
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: it on Friday, but the draft party on Friday. Most

529
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: people like the party on Fridays. Anyways, Yes, you could.

530
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: You could celebrate the first round pick if there is one,

531
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: And if there isn't one, then your quote unquote first

532
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: round pick is Friday night when the draft parties taking place.

533
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Speaker 1: So just make it Friday from now on. They get

534
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Speaker 1: Friday from now.

535
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: On, from now on now on, unless unless and God forbid,

536
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: you pick way early in the first round.

537
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right right now.

538
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: If that happens, it's because we traded somebody, all right.

539
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't want it to be because you're bad enough.

540
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh no, that high, because there's no way you will

541
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: ever match the excitement of drafting Stroud second and then

542
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 3: moving up to get Will. I mean, come on, that

543
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: you can't can't happen again, And you don't want it

544
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: to happen again, because you don't.

545
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: Want to suffer like that.

546
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: To make that happen, to give you that opportunity, all

547
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: that had to happen was bad season and historic trade

548
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: of your enfranchise quarterback, and I don't want to see that. No, No,

549
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: let's just draft late in the first round till the

550
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: end of time.

551
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: That means you're doing pretty well.

552
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you. And here's the other thing too. I'm

553
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna I know, I know this is not going to

554
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: go over well.

555
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: But even if.

556
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Somebody wants to move out of they say, somebody wants

557
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: to move you out of twenty eight, they want twenty

558
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: eight for something. Yeah, I don't care if it's for

559
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven draft picks. I want twenty twenty seven

560
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: draft picks because that's.

561
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: The quarterback draft.

562
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: Not saying that we need a quarterback, but that's the

563
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: quarterback draft on top of a transcended edge draft, also

564
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: a transcendent wide receiver draft. This wide receiver draft, Yes,

565
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven is gonna be unbelievable.

566
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: Okay, unbelievable. That's good because you're I want twenty twenty

567
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: seven draft picks.

568
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: In a In a draft like that, people will overspend

569
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: bingo draft capital wise in order. Yes, they'll lose their minds.

570
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: They want to move up and take player X. Yes,

571
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, we gotta have them. And here here's

572
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: a boatload of picks, Nick, and then Nick can cook

573
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: with that in twenty twenty seven.

574
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: I like that, Johnny. So you're saying, if.

575
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: You move down this year, be okay with taking a

576
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: two from twenty twenty steps whatever.

577
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: The hell, yes, in addition to other stuff.

578
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: All right, I like that.

579
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: I like that thinking, yes.

580
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: That is exactly what I want the more twenty twenty

581
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: seven draft picks. And again for us, my hope is

582
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: it won't be a quarterback. And I don't want it

583
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: to be a quarterback because CJ is gonna bounce back

584
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: and have a hell of a year and that's gonna

585
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: gonna be an issue. But you might end up with

586
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: a couple of first round draft picks and then you

587
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: can package them together and go up and get I

588
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: don't know, one of these stud edge rushers, get a

589
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: stud wide receiver. There are a lot of things you

590
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: can do with these twenty twenty seven draft picks. Okay,

591
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this before I ask this either

592
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: or Okay, when it comes to needs for the Texans

593
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: as it sits right now, what is your top personnel

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: need for twenty twenty six?

595
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, I have to say it's either right tackle.

596
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, stop right there, That's all I needed, all right,

597
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: right tackle. M would you feel more comfortable either drafting

598
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: one in the first round if you stay at twenty eight,

599
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: or going out and signing a veteran in free agency?

600
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: What would you feel most comfortable with doing to help

601
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: right tackle? Drafting one in the first round in the draft.

602
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: And this is where this is where I will say,

603
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: when I've gone through all the different mock draft generations

604
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: that I've already done, just kind of getting a feel

605
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: for things, tackle seems to be one where I think

606
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: we could end up getting a guy at twenty eight

607
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: that would be pretty solid Kylick last year, or you

608
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: can go out and get one in free agency. I

609
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: don't have the list in front of me, but would

610
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: you feel more confident with having a veteran you pay

611
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: money for to step right in right tackle or getting

612
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: that first round rookie sticking at twenty eight and picking.

613
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: A right tackle.

614
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Listen, if I'm going to replace right tackle because Trent

615
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: is a free agent, and look, Trent got the nod

616
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: over Blake when Trent was healthy, right they came in

617
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: Blake's entering year three. How do they feel about Blake?

618
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: I don't really know, but I do know that they

619
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: weren't starting him over Trent Brown when Trent Brown, at one.

620
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: Hundred years old, was healthy.

621
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Speaker 3: Now, Trent played well and We all talk about Trent

622
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: how big he is, and he was moving people around

623
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: and they built the streak around well, not around him,

624
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: but he was part of that when they really get

625
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: rolling this season.

626
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: So I want to be clear.

627
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: I know Titus can play right tackle, but if you

628
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: move Titus back to right tackle, now we've got the

629
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: guard situation again on the left side.

630
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: So what do you do there?

631
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: So it's one or the other to me, Johnny, it's

632
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: either left guard, right tackle, or however they want to

633
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: configure it. And how do they feel about center? Do

634
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: they like Jake? Do they want to try Juice again,

635
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: try to Jared again, or go in another direction.

636
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. So they got a lot of ways

637
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 4: to go.

638
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: But I want veteran help in here because I loved

639
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: having Ursery on this team, and I love having Ursery

640
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: on this team moving forward. Great, you went through the

641
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: baptism of Tay Ursery at left tackle, but you mentioned

642
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: it for the show earlier this week, and you mentioned

643
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: it this season. How the Jacksonville game not so good

644
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: for him with Josh Heinz Allen having to contain him,

645
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: and we saw what Hines Allen did in that game,

646
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: and that was lost number three in an zero and

647
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: three start, then Nursery really started to get it going gradually.

648
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: He's a rookie left tackle. Dwayne Brown went through the

649
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: same kind of thing. Whatever, good to go year two.

650
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: I know he'll be better in year three and four

651
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: than he will in year two, but good to go

652
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: year two. I don't want to have to live through

653
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: that at right tackle with a rookie. Get me a veteran,

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Speaker 3: whether it be Titus or somebody else. I need more

655
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Speaker 3: veteran help. And knowing Nick okay, I know he tried

656
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: it with Robinson last year, but Robinson was really insurance

657
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: in case erthree was to work out and then okay, fine,

658
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: we'll start Cam Robinson. I know he's not an all

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Speaker 3: world left tackle, but he's solid and he can hold

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Speaker 3: it down or whatever. But I'm I'm gonna take the rookie,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna take a veteran and we're gonna go

662
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Speaker 3: so Johnny, I want kind of both, but not necessarily

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Speaker 3: first round tackle guard help all right, depending on what

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Speaker 3: they do in free agency. If they like go crazy

665
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Speaker 3: and I don't have the free agent list in front

666
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Speaker 3: of me, or a trade or whatever. But if they

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Speaker 3: acquire a veteran or veterans on the line, I expect

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Speaker 3: them to still draft at those positions because that's what

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Speaker 3: Nick Asari and Demiko Ryans.

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Speaker 4: Like to do. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely like the way. I like the way you put

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Speaker 2: all that. That was very very good. Okay, AFC Championship game.

673
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Speaker 2: Not that I really want to hammer this one home again,

674
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: but it was the New England Patriots and the Denver Broncos.

675
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Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty six, you have to buy stock

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Speaker 2: in one of those teams for the twenty twenty six season,

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots or the Denver Broncos. Which one

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Speaker 2: are you doing, either New England or Denver buying stock

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Speaker 2: in for the twenty twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a team that resides in the AFC West

681
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Speaker 3: that will be a factor again, and that is the

682
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. I don't care who you are, they're

683
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Speaker 3: gonna come back and they're gonna do something. You know,

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Speaker 3: they might not be great anymore, but they're not gonna

685
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: be an easy out. You know, ma Homes left the

686
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Speaker 3: building and they were an easy out. They'll be back

687
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Speaker 3: and they'll have something for you.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they're gonna be maybe not great again, but they're

690
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Right. Gosh, we don't play them. Oh, I love this,

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: But you don't know when Mahomes is coming back. You

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00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: don't know that, so that be a pretty big role.

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Speaker 3: He'll, you know, dad bod aside. He'll do all the

696
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: work I know to get back. And some guys work

697
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: out like crazy and they still kind of have a

698
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: dad bod. It just doesn't you know, they don't get

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00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: as toned as some others do.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So I understand what you're saying about the Chiefs because

702
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: impacts the Broncos. And I know I'm going but I'm

703
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: just talking about these two teams in particular.

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Speaker 1: You gotta buy stock in one of these two teams.

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Speaker 4: I hate them both so much. I know football hare

706
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: just oozes out of me.

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Speaker 3: For both of these teams, I would say, Denver, I

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00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: believe in the defense more. I don't believe in Bonick's

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00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: a ton but I think they'll address the running game.

710
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Speaker 3: You know, Dobbin's got hurt really affected them. He's a

711
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: free agent now, I think, And it seemed like no

712
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: one was talking about that late in the year I'm like,

713
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: Dobbins is not there, and that's a big factor for

714
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: that team. You know, Harvey's good, but he's a complimentary player.

715
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: You need the other guy. So they're gonna have to

716
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: figure that out for themselves. But I would still say Denver, Johnny,

717
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: even though they play with the Chargers and the Chiefs

718
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: out there and the Raiders, I expect them to not

719
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: get any worse under Clint Cootiet. They're gonna be a

720
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: better football team. I have no idea what the plan

721
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: is quarterback, et cetera. The Patriots meanwhile, still a buffalo

722
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: to deal with Miami.

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Speaker 4: Are they gonna be better?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

725
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: They might be dormat city again with the former Boston

726
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: College head coach there and the Jets Aaron Glenn.

727
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: How about them hiring Bill Musgrave to coach quarterback?

728
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, flashback, Yes, that's Marks the Great Sun.

729
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: No, it's Bill Muskgrave.

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Speaker 1: Mark listened to this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots road opponents, Bill's Bears, Chiefs, Lions, Jags, Chargers, Seahawks.

732
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Speaker 4: Beautiful, beautiful addition.

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Speaker 1: To Dolphins, Jets. Yeah. This this one for me is

734
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos. There's no question about that, all right, Nick

735
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Casario was on with Jim Rome.

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Speaker 2: Some good stuff. We'll have that for you next right

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Speaker 2: here in Texans All Access. Tevin, everybody, Welcome back this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday Nation at Texans All Access from that Texans Radio studio.

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: for your Houston Texans. Glad to be with you as always. Man,

741
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Speaker 2: it's been good to be back this week after the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Back on radio. It's been really, really fun. Now,

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Speaker 2: last week was Super Bowl Radio Row and Nick Caserio,

744
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Speaker 2: second vice President, General Manager your Houston Texans, stop.

745
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: By and hung out with Jim Rome, the radio icon.

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00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: Some good stuff in this interview with Jim Rome and

747
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: our pound, Nick Casserio, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna see it right now.

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00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: I don't want to get out in head in front

750
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 5: of my skis, but one of the all time great

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00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: radio row weeks we've ever had, and I've done thirty

752
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: of these things, one of my favorite moments already and

753
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 5: it hasn't had happening, but I can already say it

754
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: is this guy. We are joined right now by the

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00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: executive VP and GM of the Houston Texans, wrapped up

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: his fifth season previously with the Patriots. As you know,

757
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: for twenty years, six Super Bowl rings. The Texans won

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00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: back to back AFC South Division titles twenty three twenty four.

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00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: They have made it to the postseason three straight years.

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00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 5: He is the most accomplished Clone ever. He is the

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: NTC Nick the Clone. Nick Caserio, My brother, love you man.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Jomi?

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Speaker 6: Great to be here, Love you man. Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 4: Nick.

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Speaker 1: When did you get into town?

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Speaker 6: About an hour ago?

767
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: So got to the hotel, team right over to the road,

768
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 7: got to the hotel, walked over to take an uber.

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Speaker 7: It was like twenty twenty five minutes, and it's the

770
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Speaker 7: same amount of time to walk. I'm like, I'll just walk,

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00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 7: so it's good exercise.

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Speaker 6: For all right.

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Speaker 1: So you got you how many steps?

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Speaker 6: It was a while twenty minutes, so I'll check my whoops, how.

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Speaker 1: Are you a ten thousand step day?

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Speaker 2: A guy?

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 7: Or you usually go by strain because the woop measures

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Speaker 7: a strain, So I usually end up between eleven and

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Speaker 7: thirteen if somewhere in there.

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Speaker 6: Okay, try to stay on course, all right?

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00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Nick?

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00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 5: Sarah joining us now, I'm not going to ask you

783
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: to partake, but twisted tea is one of our big

784
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: partners this week. I want to say to you, you

785
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 5: want to know something really twisted. How twisted would it

786
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: be if parody Larry, who's on the outside with his

787
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 5: face smashed up against the glass somehow some way got

788
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: in and bum rushed us. And by the way, he's

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00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 5: been using your name to try to get through the door.

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Speaker 6: Of course he is.

791
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 7: He might be using my Twitter profile that I don't have,

792
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 7: that apparently is out there as well, so he can

793
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 7: maybe use that.

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Speaker 6: So that is kind of twisted, really twisted.

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Speaker 5: You know what he's also doing, Like you know, Nick

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00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 5: Casario made up parody Larity, so I think that he

797
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 5: can get me in here so I can go up

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Speaker 5: on the stage and relived that great moment I had

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Speaker 5: ten years ago with Rome.

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Speaker 6: He's not wrong. Actually I did make up his names.

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00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's wrong about the rest. He's right about that.

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00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 5: You make up that name?

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00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: Twisted? It is twisted. It is really really twisted. Dude.

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00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: See him? Punk came on today? Did you see it?

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00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 6: Did you see it?

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00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay, the best guest of the week. Probably know

807
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 7: you were such a big wrestling fan. All of a sudden, I.

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: Didn't know you were either, and now that you are,

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: I am well and are so of course you have

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 5: to be.

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Speaker 6: I have to know.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be a part of that club.

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00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 5: So to that point, though, you know what he said,

814
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 5: he's never had a drink. Did you see that? Was

815
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Speaker 5: that part of the play he said, he's never I go, dude,

816
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: you look great. You're forty seven and you're still at

817
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: a really elite level and you travel how how he

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Speaker 5: was number one?

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Speaker 1: I don't drink.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't drink, or you've never drank. He's like,

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Speaker 5: I've never drank. Did you know that about him?

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Speaker 6: I did not.

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Speaker 7: He and I could probably hang out then, so we

824
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 7: probably you never drink. I've had a drink, but I

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 7: don't drink. It's probably honestly been a while since I've

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Speaker 7: playned anything in my body. I mean, my wife and

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Speaker 7: I maybe have gone to dinner, you know, a handful

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Speaker 7: of you know, maybe a few years back and made it,

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Speaker 7: had a glass of wine, but honestly, I don't want

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Speaker 7: to put anything in my body. And then I got

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Speaker 7: to get in the car and God forbid something were

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Speaker 7: to happen. But honestly, I don't have really inkling. I

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Speaker 7: really don't have any desire to.

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Speaker 1: You don't miss what you don't do.

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Speaker 6: Not at all. So I have my routine.

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Speaker 7: I kind of stay true to it and try to

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Speaker 7: put in my body what I want to put in

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Speaker 7: my body.

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Speaker 5: As we know, routines and rituals ultimately make us.

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Speaker 1: That said, go ahead and have a twisty.

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Speaker 5: So I said to see him Punking'm like, so you've

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Speaker 5: never had a drink, so you'll have a twisty right now?

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Speaker 1: Right He's like no, I'm like, but that'd be so twisted, that.

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Speaker 6: Would be twisted.

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00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 7: It probably would infringe on his training. So I'm sure

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Speaker 7: he's just gonna stay away from him.

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Speaker 1: You know what's incredible.

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Speaker 5: So we had Joe Brady on this week, and we

849
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Speaker 5: have you Nick the Clone, we have Josh who Josh

850
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 5: doesn't come on as much because Josh doesn't come on

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00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 5: as much, but he's still Josh the Clone.

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady says to me, I didn't know this.

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Speaker 5: He's like, did just so you know, Jim, big fan

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00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: of the show, listen to it watching him.

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Speaker 7: Like, holy crap, do we have a third member of

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Speaker 7: the group. We might forget about drink. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: might as well put Eli in there. Yeah right, Eli, dude,

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Speaker 7: can't forget about him. Dude, he has a golden ticket,

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 5: So Eli, he may not actually say I am a clone,

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Speaker 5: But what about Joe Brady, Like, does he have what

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Speaker 5: it takes to be a clone?

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Speaker 1: And I know you're not in the.

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Speaker 5: Business of talking about other people and other teams, but

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Speaker 5: how do you think he'll do there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, Joe's a really good coach. The fact that he's

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Speaker 7: a clone probably make him a better coach. But I

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Speaker 7: mean he's done a really good job honestly with the

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Speaker 7: Buffalo offense when he was kind of inserted into that role.

871
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 7: He understands the culture, he understands the city, understands the mafia.

872
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 7: So between being part of the Bills mafia and being

873
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 7: a clone, like, he's probably gonna have a good chance

874
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 7: for success.

875
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I like it.

876
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: I love the energy. I love the way he showed up.

877
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: We're talking to Nick the clone, Dick Casario.

878
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: Nick.

879
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: I know as much as you love and appreciate the

880
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: Jungle because you always point that out.

881
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: And you don't need to, but thank you, dude.

882
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 5: I know you'd rather be preparing for the Super Bowl

883
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 5: than talking to me right now. When you look back

884
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 5: on the year, you've had a couple of days. Now,

885
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: what kind of thoughts do you have?

886
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, overall, honestly, I said this kind of after the

887
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 7: Sea's really proud of what we accomplished. So we did

888
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 7: a lot of good things, won thirteen games. We include

889
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 7: the playoff game, you know, which we did a lot

890
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 7: of things a franchise that hasn't really done over the

891
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: course of its history. So we understand there's just still

892
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 7: work in front of us. We have to make some

893
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 7: improvements in the offseason, and you know, it's kind of

894
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 7: turned a page and starting to get ready for the

895
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 7: twenty six seasons. But from where we started, which was

896
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 7: OZO three, to end up where we were, we gave

897
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 7: ourselves an opportunity. In the end, probably didn't play our

898
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 7: best football, but overall, I mean, can't say enough about

899
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 7: what de Miko did, how he led the team, the players,

900
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 7: how they responded to win nine games. To win one

901
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 7: game is hard to win nine games in this league

902
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 7: and then ten in the playoffs. I mean, it says

903
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 7: a lot about the people in our building. So certainly

904
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 7: proud of what we accomplish, Understanding we realize there's more

905
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 7: in front of us, and that's what the focus is.

906
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 6: As we move forward to the next season.

907
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 5: Nick Casari is joining us, so it's gonna ask about

908
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: Dimico next because one of the buzz phrases of the

909
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: offseason has been alignment alignment, alignment, alignment, alignment between a

910
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 5: coach and a GM. The Texans decision to hire Domico

911
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: as head coach continues to pay dividends.

912
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Right had three straight trips to the playoffs. I know

913
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: you love him.

914
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: What is his separation and what has enabled him to

915
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: excel the way he has as a first time head coach.

916
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: Well, he's very sincere, he's very consistent, he's very authentic,

917
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 7: and he is who he is and that kind of

918
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 7: transcends the rest of the program as well, Like we

919
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 7: want everybody that comes in our billions to be who

920
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: they are, be true to who you are, and we

921
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: have to provide some guidelines in direction. And Dimiko has

922
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 7: a really good pulse of the team. He's sat in

923
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 7: the chairs of the players that he talks to on

924
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: a daily basis, so that certainly resonates that message Harris,

925
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 7: probably a little bit more weight than it would maybe

926
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 7: if somebody else was doing it, But he's kind of

927
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 7: been immersed in the franchise. He loves the organization, and

928
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 7: he loves the city of Houston. His wife is from Houston,

929
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 7: so there's a lot of elements. I would say, like

930
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: he pours so much into it. I think our relationship

931
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 7: has grown from what the start to where it is now.

932
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 7: And I think it's all about communication. Like we trust

933
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 7: one another, we respect one another, and there's constant communication

934
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 7: back and forth. That's the only way a partnership is

935
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 7: really gonna work.

936
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 5: Right, we were talking to Nick Asario and Nick ilet'a say

937
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 5: something twisted, and you mentioned, look, I'm proud of a

938
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: lot of things that happened this year, and the season

939
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: did not end the way we had hoped it would end.

940
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: What was really unusual about that was the bass security

941
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: was an issue at the end of the year, but

942
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: it was not during the year at all. That's twisted.

943
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: Is that an aberration and an anomaly?

944
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Where do you come out on that?

945
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it's unfortunate that it happened. To your point,

946
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: I mean, we had twelve turnovers the entire season. I

947
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 7: think it was a franchise record or second in franchise history.

948
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 7: So we did a really good job of taking care

949
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 7: of the football. There's a direct correlation between taking care

950
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 7: of the football and winning, and we seen that throughout

951
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 7: the league. We've seen that and a lot of our

952
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 7: games as well. So unfortunately it happened. That's the way

953
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: it goes sometimes. I mean, that's why ball security is

954
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 7: such a premium. And you look at the teams that advance,

955
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 7: those are the teams that like took care of the football,

956
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 7: and that's always going to be important whenever you play,

957
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 7: whether it's regular season, postseason, and regardless of the opponent.

958
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: All right, Nick, what about the JTC. What kind of

959
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: headspace is he in right now? Like, I'm sure you

960
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: talked to him. I don't talk to him, but man,

961
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: it's his third stand. He's doing a great job. I'm

962
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 5: gonna argue there's there's a lot of reasons why they

963
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: are where they are right now, but they're not there

964
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: without him. I don't think what kind of headspace is

965
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: he in right now? I think he's in a really

966
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 5: great spot.

967
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 7: Had a chance to visit with them over the summer,

968
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 7: you know, just to kind of catch up with him

969
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 7: and before he was about to embark on the season,

970
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 7: and he felt good. It was interesting because a lot

971
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 7: of the staff that's in place or that they ended

972
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 7: up hiring, he hadn't really worked with anybody before, so

973
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: there wasn't a lot of carryover and overlap.

974
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 6: I mean, he never coached with Mike.

975
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 7: Mike played, Josh was coaching, so I think he had

976
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 7: a refreshed outlook and I think he was excited about

977
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: the opportunity to work with Drake and his year went on.

978
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 7: I mean, you can't say about the work that Josh

979
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 7: has done to your point, j Art, I mean, he's

980
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 7: a big part of the reason that they're There's no

981
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 7: question about it. Quarterback play is a really direct result

982
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 7: and correlation between you know, the coordinator and a coach,

983
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 7: and you know.

984
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 6: Josh has done a good job as anybody.

985
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: So Nick, when you were in the facility grinding away,

986
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 5: working your way up, what was Mike Vrabel like as

987
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 5: a player in the facility too?

988
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 7: Mike is how he is now, I mean, very confident.

989
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 7: He's kind of a smart ass in a good way.

990
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 7: He could he could ras Bill a little bit and

991
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 7: do it in a playful way. But Mike was one

992
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 7: of the most respective players that was in the building.

993
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 7: He was smart, He was very tough. He was a

994
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 7: very instinctive football player, and his team when you watch

995
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 7: them play, is a reflection of his personality. So Mike's

996
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 7: had a lot of success as a coach. He started

997
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 7: kind of at the ground level, similar to Miko. They

998
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 7: started kind of QC kind of quality control. Worked his

999
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 7: way up. He was a position coach, He was a

1000
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 7: coordinator and Houston defense coordinator there for here before he

1001
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 7: went to the Titans. Had a lot of success at

1002
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 7: Tennessee and then that year off. Honestly, when you look

1003
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 7: at both Mike and Josh, that year off probably was

1004
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 7: a blessing in disguise, and they really took advantage of it,

1005
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 7: and you know, now their teams are in a pretty

1006
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 7: good spot.

1007
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: You know what, I asked somebody this yesterday, like did

1008
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 5: Tennessee not know what they had?

1009
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: Or in that year off?

1010
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: Did Mike actually do a self audit and really think

1011
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: about why he is where he is?

1012
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 7: Like did he come back a better coach? You think, well,

1013
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 7: it's probably a combination of everything. Look look at the

1014
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 7: kind of the arc of your career, our career, always

1015
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 7: looking for opportunities to grow. How can we kind of

1016
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 7: enhance the things that we've already done and maybe learn

1017
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 7: from and modify and adjust.

1018
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 6: And Mike.

1019
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 7: I can't speak for Mike, but I would assume Mike

1020
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 7: did some of those things. So sometimes you need a

1021
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 7: fresh start, and then when you kind of take a

1022
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 7: step back, when you get a new opportunity, maybe you're

1023
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 7: able to implement some things that you hadn't thought of,

1024
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 7: or that you didn't think about in your previous job,

1025
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 7: or just so it's all about kind of a growth mindset.

1026
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 7: I mean, not to use your phrase, but it's really

1027
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 7: kind of about the reinvention of yourself, not only as

1028
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 7: a person and a coach. And I think you're seeing

1029
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 7: some of that.

1030
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: That's some great stuff there with Jim Rome, and Jim

1031
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: respects the fact that Nick is a clone. It's so

1032
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 2: so interesting. I remember an interview I heard with Josh

1033
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: McDaniels and Jim Rome many many years ago, and he

1034
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: talked about how many of the Patriots employees at the

1035
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: time we were clones. They were huge fans of Jim Rome.

1036
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Nick Casario and Sean penderg

1037
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: had hit it off so well, because obviously Sean's a clone,

1038
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: but he's also the Smackoff champion eighty five times over

1039
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: and that's why they connected us Road. Really cool, but

1040
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: appreciate Jim Rome and of course our pal Nick Cassari.

1041
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll be back tomorrow. Plenty more going on

1042
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL, plenty more of the offseason cranking up.

1043
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: We're getting close, man to combine, coming up less than

1044
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: two weeks. Free agency will be here before we know it,

1045
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: and then we'll be seriously on at the twenty twenty

1046
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 2: sixth season.

1047
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow, buddy. There's always go Texans,