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Speaker 1: Heart Building, the Senate heart Building, where we're about to

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Speaker 1: commence the Select Senate Intelligence Committee hearing.

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Speaker 2: It's been scheduled for a while.

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Speaker 1: This is about international threats and intelligence, unclassified public hearing.

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Speaker 2: They will do another one behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: This is the public and the reason this is so

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Speaker 1: important today obviously with this situation with the signal chat.

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Speaker 1: Today you're going to have Cash Ptel, Director of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: Taulsi Gabbert, defense of the D and I, and you're

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Speaker 1: going to have also CIA John Retcliffe, so Director of

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Speaker 1: National Intelligence Tulsi Gaber. You see they're gathering right now

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Speaker 1: in the Heart Building. The Senators are gathering. This will

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Speaker 1: be gathered, and we're going to dip in and out

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Speaker 1: of this because I believe Jack Reid, the ranking member

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Speaker 1: this basically a hearing. You see the media right there,

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Speaker 1: so over the over the shoulder shot. And this is

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Speaker 1: why if you listen to us on the podcast, what

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Speaker 1: you need to do is go and get our command

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Speaker 1: briefing and get go to the site, get everything dealing

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Speaker 1: with our footage, because the footage is amazing. Right here,

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Speaker 1: we got the shot over the shoulder, you see the cameraman.

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Speaker 1: There's a much bigger turnout today. The hall is packed

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Speaker 1: because of the situation with the with the with the thread,

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Speaker 1: the signal thread, where the Democrats are going to try

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Speaker 1: to make a lot of hay with this. President United

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Speaker 1: States already told Garrett Hake of NBC News before we

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Speaker 1: got before we started today that Mike Waltz is a

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Speaker 1: good man and Mike Waltz is not going to be

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Speaker 1: fired for this.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: We do understand the White House Council is involved, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's some sort of investigation, particularly given that

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Goldberg is a is a demon. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: before they start, Let's go ahead play. We'll play, We'll

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Speaker 1: bring the show in, and then we're gonna get Jack

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Speaker 1: Pisovik and we're going to dip in and out of

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Speaker 2: This is the final scream of a dying regime.

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Speaker 1: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 1: these people. You've not got a free shot all these

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Speaker 1: networks lying about the people.

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Speaker 2: The people have had a belly full of it.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't like hearing that.

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Speaker 2: I know you tried to do everything in the world

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Speaker 2: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 4: big line?

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Speaker 5: Mega media?

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Speaker 6: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 6: these people had a conscience.

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Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 1: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 1: will be saved.

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Speaker 3: Worry use your host, Stephen k Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, pretty creative right there.

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Speaker 1: We just did We did the we did the opening

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Speaker 1: theme song over this hearing. Hearing very important today, what

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Speaker 1: But the big three are Tulsi Tulsi Gabbert, Director of

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Speaker 2: We're all going to be there.

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Speaker 1: The reason it's heightened the day and we're going to

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Speaker 2: If you haven't heard, there was during.

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Speaker 1: They had a thread, a signal thread, and a signal

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Speaker 1: So you had a number of President Trump's senior advisors,

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Speaker 1: Somehow he was inadvertently either through a staffer or through

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Speaker 7: National Security Agency and Commander of US Cyber Command, General

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Speaker 5: Thank you all for your ap pearans. Thank you for

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Speaker 7: and you're here to represent today. Their successes are seldom celebrated,

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Speaker 7: their accomplishments are often unseen, but our nation is grateful

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Speaker 7: Threats Hearing allows for the American people to receive an

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Speaker 7: that our nation faces. As we will hear from our witnesses,

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Speaker 7: many of the threats we face are truly existential. Communist

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Speaker 7: despite setbacks inflicted on its so called access of resistance

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Speaker 7: It continues to arm you many rebels to attack global shipping,

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Speaker 7: two weeks thanks to decisive action by President Trump and

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Speaker 7: Iran now faces a stark choice thanks to President Trump.

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Speaker 7: After years of drift, the intelligence community must recommit to

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Speaker 7: its core mission of collecting clandestine intelligence from adversaries whose

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Speaker 7: of life. The reason is not that our intelligence community

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Speaker 7: prioritize social engineering over espionage. Coupled with recent failures, the

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Speaker 7: capabilities require urgent reform and revitalization. As the Chairman of

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Speaker 7: this committee, I look forward to working with each of

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Speaker 7: deserve nothing less. We've assembled impressive team to get this done,

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, mister Sherman, and good morning everybody.

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Speaker 8: I want to thank all the witnesses for being here.

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Speaker 8: I got to say I've been on the committee now

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Speaker 8: for fourteen years, and this year's assessment is clearly one

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Speaker 3: Literally hundreds of individuals.

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Speaker 8: However, this with these relationships are not built in stone.

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Speaker 8: We've also seen foreign adversaries and friends take advantage of

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jacksovic. Jack.

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Speaker 1: Jack put in perspective you're a naval intelligence officer. This

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Speaker 5: Well, Steve, I think this is incredibly important.

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Speaker 9: Look, we've got our entire heads of our national security

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Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on one second. Let's just go to

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Speaker 4: equipm meant primarily from China and India, many of which

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Speaker 4: are dual use chemicals used in legitimate industries. Independent fentanyl

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Speaker 4: producers are also increasingly fragmenting the drug trade in Mexico.

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Speaker 4: The availability of precursor chemicals and ease of making illicit

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Speaker 4: fentanyl have enabled independent actors to increase illicit fentanyl production

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Speaker 4: and smuggling operations in Mexico. Cartels are profiting from human

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Speaker 4: trafficking and have likely facilitated more than two million illegal

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Speaker 4: immigrants encountered by law enforcement at the US Southwest border

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four alone, straining our vital resources and

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Speaker 4: putting the American people at risk. Criminal groups drive much

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Speaker 4: of the unrest and lawlessness in the Western hemisphere. They

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Speaker 4: also engage in extortion, weapons, in human smuggling, and other

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Speaker 4: illicit and dangerous revenue seeking operations, including kidnappings for ransom,

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Speaker 4: forced labor, and sex trafficking. These and other human traffickers

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Speaker 4: exploit vulnerable individuals and groups by promising well paying jobs

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Speaker 4: while confiscating their identification documents. They operate in the shadows,

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Speaker 4: exploiting lawlessness in various areas and using coercion and intimidation

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Speaker 4: to control their victims. While these key drivers of migrants

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Speaker 4: are expected to persist, heightened US border security enforcement and

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Speaker 4: deportations under the Trump administration are proving to serve as

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Speaker 4: a deterrent for migrants seeking to illegally cross US borders.

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Speaker 4: US Border patrol apprehensions along the Southwest border in January

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five dropped eighty five percent from the same

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Speaker 4: period in twenty twenty four. Transnational Islamist extremists such as

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Speaker 4: ISIS and al Qaeda and affiliated Gihati groups continue to pursue, enable,

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Speaker 4: or inspire attacks against the United States and our citizens

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Speaker 4: abroad and within the homeland to advance their ultimate objective

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Speaker 4: of establishing a global Islamist caliphate. This includes heightened efforts

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Speaker 4: to spread their ideology to recruit and radicalize individuals in

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Speaker 4: the US and the West. While the New Year's Day

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Speaker 4: attack er New Orleans had no known direct contact with

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Speaker 4: ISIS terras, he was influenced and radicalized by ISIS ideological propaganda.

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Speaker 4: As one example, al Qaeda and its affiliates continue to

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Speaker 4: call for attacks against the United States as they conduct

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Speaker 4: attacks overseas. These jihadist groups have shown their ability to

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Speaker 4: adapt and evolve, including using new technologies and tactics to

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Speaker 4: spread their ideology and recruit new followers. A range of

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Speaker 4: non state cyber criminals are also targeting our economic interests,

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Speaker 4: critical infrastructure, and advanced commercial capability for extortion, other coercive pursuits,

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Speaker 4: and financial gain. These actors use a variety of tactics,

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Speaker 4: including phishing, ransomware, and denial of service attacks to disrupt

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Speaker 4: OUR systems and steal sensitive and lucrative information using available

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Speaker 4: technologies and USA cyber vulnerabilities. Ransomware actors last year, for example,

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Speaker 4: attacked the largest payment processor for US healthcare institutions, and

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Speaker 4: another set of criminal actors conducted cyber attacks against US

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Speaker 4: water utilities. Some of these non state cyber actors also

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Speaker 4: operate as proxies for or emulate similar activities carried out

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Speaker 4: by major state actors. While these non state cyber actors

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Speaker 4: often seek financial and intellectual property gains, they also carry

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Speaker 4: out cyber operations for espionage purposes, targeting our critical infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: Turning to key state actors, the IC sees China, Russia, Iran,

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Speaker 4: and North Korea engaging in activities that could challenge US

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Speaker 4: capabilities and interests.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get Ashley so so much going on

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Speaker 1: that we're going to get back to Tulsi that some

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Speaker 1: of the opening statements, fireworks are going to start. We're

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Speaker 1: principally going to focus as you do here in the

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Speaker 1: Democrats because there let's be blood. They're looking for blood

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Speaker 1: or bring check a Pasobic back in Jack today. Obviously

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Speaker 1: this unclassified briefing on the threats. We know the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist Party and they always get underplayed, I think as

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Speaker 1: far as the real threat goes, because they're throw Russia

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Speaker 1: in there and other people which are clearly you know Russia,

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Speaker 1: the KGB guys that run out of bad guys, very

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Speaker 1: bad guys. You always got to be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: for it. But the CCP so overwhelmingly evil and they're

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Speaker 1: focus in the destruction of the United States or the

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Speaker 1: nice But the topic today is the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: If they have to land this hearing and they have.

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Speaker 1: To draw blood from Taulci, Gabbert and Ratcliffe, what they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to do is elicit from them that

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Speaker 1: it was a mistake, elize for them as a senior

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Speaker 1: two of the senior intelligence officers that there.

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Speaker 2: Was classified information.

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Speaker 1: Because now you have Caroline Lovett and Pete Hegstth both

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Speaker 1: on the record saying there was no classified information Caroline

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Speaker 1: put out a statement this morning, and I think the

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Speaker 1: big target here today's gonna be cash Battel. They're going

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Speaker 1: to jump on cash for an independent investigation. Am I

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Speaker 1: correct in those direct in those Jack Pisovic.

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Speaker 5: Well, Steve, I think you are directionally correct.

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Speaker 9: And you're already seeing this bubble up on the Democrats

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Speaker 9: side where they're calling for.

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Speaker 5: They want an impeachment.

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Speaker 9: They think that they can pick off a cabinet member here,

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Speaker 9: and they think that this scandal gives them the ability

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Speaker 9: to be able to do this. So they're they're first

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Speaker 9: going to start with the independent investigation. They're going to

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Speaker 9: demand the cash Btel and Bondy set up. They would love,

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Speaker 9: by the way, a special prosecutor. Remember this is what

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Speaker 9: the Democrats did through the power of the institutional state

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Speaker 9: in government in twenty seventeen. It's the exact same thing.

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Speaker 9: They took something now, by the way, in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 9: Rushigate which wasn't real, which was completely fake, and they

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Speaker 9: got this entire investigation going James Comy, which turned into

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Speaker 9: Robert Muller after Comy got fired, etc.

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Speaker 5: Et cetera.

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Speaker 9: Rob Rosenstein and Jeff Sessions cosign the whole deal. We

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Speaker 9: remember every step of the way, and it paralyzed the administration.

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Speaker 9: They are salivating over the ability to do that again

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Speaker 9: and potentially pick off a cabinet member if they keep

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Speaker 9: this ball rolling. So I can understand, by the way,

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Speaker 9: why President Trump is trying to put the brakes on

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Speaker 9: this because he remembers that when Flynn was let go

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Speaker 9: in the beginning of the administration, when this all started,

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Speaker 9: that didn't stem the bleeding, and so he's looking potentially

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Speaker 9: at a comprehensive response to the sponds to okay, to

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Speaker 9: hold it.

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Speaker 2: Hold it.

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Speaker 1: Not only did not stem the bleeding when General Flynn

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Speaker 1: was let go in the first thirty days.

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Speaker 2: It showed them that we could be I mean, the attacks.

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Speaker 1: Increased because they realized you wouldn't protect you wouldn't hunker

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Speaker 1: down and protect your people.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That was a huge controversy inside the administration about General Flynn,

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Speaker 1: about hunkering down or letting Flynn go, which in hindsight.

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Speaker 5: It was through month.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a major mistake of the time.

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Speaker 1: But here's so to put into perspective, folks on this resistance.

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Speaker 1: Last night, the White House decreed that the information about

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Speaker 1: the terrorist groups were state secrets. I want you explain that, Jack,

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Speaker 1: because Matt Gates put out tweeted out right away game

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Speaker 1: over on this judge. Mike Davis is going to try

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Speaker 1: to join us later this morning if we can fit

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Speaker 1: it in. The Davis is of the exact opposite. He

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Speaker 1: thinks the judge just doubles the triples down. So they're

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Speaker 1: trying to come at President Trump and President Trump's administration

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Speaker 1: from every way and block what he's trying to do.

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Speaker 1: The most significant thing he's trying to do overall is

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Speaker 1: change geoeconomically and geostrategically. This is where the tariffs come

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Speaker 1: in to the national security aspect. Totally change the existing

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Speaker 1: structure of the world order from post World War two

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Speaker 1: to today. That makes it America first and American citizens first.

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Speaker 1: This is where they're coming after him as commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: This hearing today is about shutting down President Trump's chosen

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Speaker 1: team on the intelligence side, on information warfare side, and

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Speaker 1: to roll it up and get a couple of And

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Speaker 1: this is what the Democrats are going to do.

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Speaker 9: Jack Pisovic a hundred percent stevid and you and the

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Speaker 9: warm audience knows that we call this the nullification project

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Speaker 9: back from twenty seventeen on. They're trying to attempt to

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Speaker 9: rerun the nullification play. They started this by the way

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Speaker 9: Rosi O'Donnell and others saying that Elon Musk stole the election,

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Speaker 9: et cetera. But that really didn't go anywhere. They have

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Speaker 9: the Tesla terrorists. Now they've jumped onto this when they

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Speaker 9: say this one's got some legs. This one we can

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Speaker 9: point to. We can nullify Trump. We get the judges

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Speaker 9: to go in and have them shut down the executive orders.

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Speaker 9: Then we can go on offense with a special counsel,

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Speaker 9: potentially an independent investigation, etc. Et cetera, pickoff cabinet members

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Speaker 9: one by one. And what they want, Steve, what they

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Speaker 9: want is to create a situation where you've got the

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Speaker 9: cabinet members fighting each other, Cabinet members, intelligence, the highest

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Speaker 9: intel agencies here, the intaeil officers. They want that infighting

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Speaker 9: to produce it like we saw in twenty seventeen, a

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Speaker 9: culture where everything grinds to a complete halt and the

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Speaker 9: agenda can't keep moving forward. That's what President Trump and

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Speaker 9: he's looking downfield. He understands that he was saved on

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Speaker 9: the day in Butler, Pennsylvania, July thirteenth, when he was

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Speaker 9: supposed to be in his mind, he said this all

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Speaker 9: over and over, that that bullet was intended for him,

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Speaker 9: that God saved him to continue this agenda, to do

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Speaker 9: this work and perform this mission. And so that's where

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Speaker 9: he's got his eyes on. And I think that that's

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Speaker 9: exactly correct, and that he needs to put past all

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Speaker 9: of this stuff in order to keep delivering on that agenda.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, that's the agenda that's got more

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Speaker 5: mea look. Go look at CNN.

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Speaker 9: They got the report up this morning that more Americans

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Speaker 9: now believe that America is on the right track than

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Speaker 9: at any other time in recent history. That's the agenda,

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Speaker 9: the Maga Maha agenda that this administration is put together.

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Speaker 9: That's the tariffs, the restructuring of the world order, making

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Speaker 9: it so that we're not going to be this global

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Speaker 9: government anymore. Look, if there's pirates attacking the ships of court,

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Speaker 9: you go after the pirates.

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Speaker 5: That goes back to Jefferson.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's simple, but that doesn't mean we're going to

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Speaker 9: get into this World War three situation. By the way,

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Speaker 9: that's the actual content of the conversation that I read yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The this is the importance of this. They have a

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Speaker 1: judicial insurrection and President Trump by by pulling, by calling

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Speaker 1: what happened state secrets. They're ratching up to put down

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Speaker 1: this revolt of the judiciary and try to try to

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Speaker 1: nip it in the bud. Right now, what you're seeing

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Speaker 1: is what this is giving a opening to is exactly

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Speaker 1: the way they thwarted the President Trump's first term, and

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Speaker 1: that's to bring the deep state in. Now you're in

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Speaker 1: the intelligence community right now, they can bring all the

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Speaker 1: resources they have, all the in beds and d N

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Speaker 1: I C I A, d I A. This working in

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Speaker 1: conjunction with this committee right and House Intelligence was has

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Speaker 1: all these demons on it. This is what the threat

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Speaker 1: is doing, is bringing up and this is why it's

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Speaker 1: got to be fought. And I think President Trump to

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Speaker 1: Garrett Hake, I mean, give me your give me your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that. He told Garrett Hake, just one of

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Speaker 1: NBC News, Waltz is a good man. He didn't really

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Speaker 1: do anything wrong. He apologizes for it. He's my guid

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Speaker 1: and he's going to stick around. Thoughts on that. Jack

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Speaker 1: Posobic on the deep state, particularly this is the opening

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Speaker 1: of the deeps.

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Speaker 2: That you got a.

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Speaker 1: Judicial insurrection with the courts. We know these radical Marxist

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Speaker 1: on that. Now you've got the deep state. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be a pincer move on President Trump and the administration.

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Speaker 5: Well, Steve, I think it's exactly that.

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Speaker 9: I think he's remembering the twenty seventeen experience when very

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Speaker 9: similar way you had people come out come from places

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Speaker 9: like the Atlantic. We're completely and intrinsically involved, intimately involved.

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Speaker 9: When you talk about Anne Applebaum with the deep state,

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Speaker 9: she's very intimately involved.

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Speaker 5: And with the course game.

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Speaker 9: Mister Raddick over there that he remembers what happened when

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Speaker 9: he fired Flynn in twenty seventeen and half everything spiraled

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Speaker 9: out of control after that. Mike Pence, by the way,

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Speaker 9: playing a huge role in the firing of Flynn, Mike

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Speaker 9: Pence lying to Trump about what Flynn had said to

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Speaker 9: him regarding the Russian ambassador. So it was Mike Pence

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Speaker 9: playing the role, the Judas role, even all the way

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Speaker 9: back in the early days of the administration. So I

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Speaker 9: believe that Trump understands that, and he's looking at this

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Speaker 9: as a fastball that's coming at him. He's reading the

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Speaker 9: stitches on the fastball and saying, wait a minute. They

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Speaker 9: want me to swing at this, they want me to react.

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to react in their time. I'm going

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Speaker 9: to react in my own time. That being said, look,

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Speaker 9: you've got to be more careful with your com sec

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Speaker 9: You've got to understand the situation. You can't have this

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Speaker 9: stuff going on where reporters are coming in and that

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Speaker 9: we all understand that.

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Speaker 5: But what's potentially the bigger threat.

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Speaker 9: The bigger threat is that the MAGA agenda goes off

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Speaker 9: the rails the way that it did in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 9: That if you give the sharks are already up in

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Speaker 9: the water, right the sharks are in the water. So

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Speaker 9: if you're chumming the waters, if you throw them on

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Speaker 9: Mike Waltz or you throw them a General Flynn, now,

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Speaker 9: guess what.

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Speaker 5: They're going to want or they're going to want more

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Speaker 5: and more and more and it never stops.

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Speaker 9: So that's what allows this to keep going on, keep

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Speaker 9: the agenda moving, keep the momentum, keep flooding the system,

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Speaker 9: enact the regime change that's really going on.

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Speaker 5: That's the true mission right now. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: and by the way, and by the way, wants to.

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Speaker 9: Make a decision on his national security team, that's his

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Speaker 9: prerogative because they all serve a pleasure of the commander achieved.

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Speaker 2: My staff is going to let us know.

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Speaker 1: If Cotton's asking any question about the thread, we'll jump

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Speaker 1: right into it.

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Speaker 2: He was asking a general question.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to the Democrats questions because you know they're

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Speaker 1: going to be snarky for Jack.

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Speaker 2: Go to it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and go to Tom Cotton's question right.

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Speaker 7: Now, immigrants opposed not just to Arkansas, but our nation,

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Speaker 7: perhaps including of the details of the horrific offenses they've

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Speaker 7: committed against the American people.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, mister chairman.

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Speaker 7: Mister witness will suspend so that protester was a Code

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Speaker 7: Pink lunatic saying the greatest threat to world peace is

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Speaker 7: funding Israel. I will observe for the benefit of the

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Speaker 7: audience here and on television that Code Pink is funded

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Speaker 7: by communists China as well, which simply illustrates Speak up

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Speaker 7: now if you want to be removed as well. Whoever's

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Speaker 7: saying that, if anyone else would like to join them,

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Speaker 7: speak now, please that we don't have any more disruptions.

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Speaker 7: As I was saying, the fact that communist China funds

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Speaker 7: Code Pink, which interrupts a hearing like this about Israel,

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Speaker 7: simply illustrate Director Gabbert's points that China, Russia, Iran, North Korea,

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Speaker 7: and other American adversaries are working in concert to a

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Speaker 7: greater degree than they ever have before. Director Patel, back

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Speaker 7: to my question, could you give us some color about

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Speaker 7: the threat that illegal migrants have pose not only to

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Speaker 7: my state, which has resulted in nearly three hundred arrest

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty five, but also to the nation at large.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, mister Chairman, mister Vice chairman, and members of

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Speaker 10: the committee. I appreciate the time to address you all,

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Speaker 10: specifically to Arkansas Senator. The priorities at the FBI, which

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Speaker 10: I identified during my confirmationary instamationarians, hacking violent crime along

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Speaker 10: with national security, and every single state in this country

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Speaker 10: is a border state.

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Speaker 3: Arkansas is no exception.

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Speaker 10: Allow me to highlight the work of the men and

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Speaker 10: women in the FBI and state and local law enforcement

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Speaker 10: in the state of Arkansas. Since February fifth alone, we've

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Speaker 10: got two hundred and twenty illegal immigrants arrested on charges

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Speaker 10: varying from violent offenses, weapons offenses, narcotics offenses, and serious

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Speaker 10: violent felonies. Two hundred and fifty three separate individuals have

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Speaker 10: been charged related to those offenses. And here's something I

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Speaker 10: want the American people to hear about narcotics encountering narcotics.

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Speaker 10: Thousands of pounds of narcotics were seized in these three

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Speaker 10: weeks in the state of Arkansas, thousands worth tens of

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Speaker 10: millions of dollars, everything from fentanyl to meth, to cocaine,

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Speaker 10: to heroin, to marijuana and more, and also including manufactured drugs.

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Speaker 10: The FBI does have the biggest footprint in Arkansas, but

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Speaker 10: we could not achieve this mission without our state local

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Speaker 10: law enforcement partners, which has been one of the priorities

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Speaker 10: since I took the helm at the FBI. They provide

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Speaker 10: the greatest ground level intelligence to conduct these operations in

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Speaker 10: Arkansas and every single state across the Union. Since February fifth,

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Speaker 10: we've assisted with the arrest of hundreds of criminals and

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Speaker 10: illegals throughout your state. And that was just a three

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Speaker 10: week operation. Prior to that, Senator, there was a bust

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Speaker 10: of seventeen federal indictments relating to a meth lab in

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Speaker 10: the state of Arkansas in the southwest corner of your state.

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Speaker 10: All those individuals are now facing prosecution for hundreds of

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Speaker 10: pounds of illegal opioids, guns, and other ILLISSA material. So

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Speaker 10: we will continue to do that work.

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Speaker 3: We will work at six.

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Speaker 10: Seven days a week, three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 10: a year, not just in your state, mister Chairman, but

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Speaker 10: in every state.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Director Ptail.

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Speaker 7: As Director Gabbard highlighted from the annual Threat Report, Director Ratcliff, many,

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Speaker 7: if not most, of the chemical precursors for deadly fentanyl

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Speaker 7: produced by Mexican drug cartels originates in China. China, of course,

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Speaker 7: is a techno totalitarian police state. They have technology to

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Speaker 7: monitor their own people that Soviet Russia could have only imagined.

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Speaker 7: Is there any reason, Director Ratcliff to believe that China

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Speaker 7: could not monitor and crack down on this flow of

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Speaker 7: chemical precursors to Mexico if it chose to do so.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Senator, Thank you senator for the question. No,

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Speaker 11: there's nothing to prevent China, the People's Republic of China,

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Speaker 11: from cracking down on fentanyl precursors. As you well know, Senator,

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Speaker 11: one of the reasons that they don't is that there

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Speaker 11: are more than six hundred PRC related companies that produce

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Speaker 11: those precursor chemicals in an industry that generates one point

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Speaker 11: five trillion dollars. That is one of the reasons that

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Speaker 11: we see the Chinese effort to affect the sentinel precursors

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Speaker 11: are really limited in nature and intermittent in nature, and

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Speaker 11: not a dedicated effort to enforce their own laws and

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Speaker 11: regulations to crack down on this.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Director Ratcliffe. I have many more questions I

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Speaker 7: could ask, but I'm going to try to lead by

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Speaker 7: example and stay within the five minute limit for the

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Speaker 7: benefit of senators. I remind everyone there's a vote scheduled

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Speaker 7: at noon. I hope to finish the open portion of

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Speaker 7: this hearing before that vote closes, after which time we'll

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Speaker 7: move to the close portion. The Vice chairman, thank.

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Speaker 8: You, Miss chairman. I'll be happy to take your extra

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Speaker 8: thirteen seconds. But I want to go back to what

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Speaker 8: I addressed at the outset. I mean, this was not

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Speaker 8: only sloppy and not only violated all procedures, but if

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Speaker 8: this information had gotten out, American lives could have been lost.

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Speaker 8: Who he's had this information could reposition their defensive systems.

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Speaker 8: So I want to get a little more information about this,

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Speaker 8: Director Cabart, did you participate in the group chat with

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Speaker 8: Secretary of Defense and other Trump senior officials discussing the

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Speaker 8: m and war plans?

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Speaker 4: Senator, I don't want to get into this. Man get

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Speaker 4: into this man. Were you on?

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Speaker 8: You're not going to be willing to conversation, so you're

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Speaker 8: not are you denying?

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Speaker 3: Matt? Will you answer my question, ma'am you were not

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Speaker 3: TG on this group chat.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into this specific so you've refuse.

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Speaker 3: To acknowledge whether you were on this group chat.

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Speaker 4: Senator, I'm not going to get into this.

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Speaker 8: Why are Why are you going to get into this

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Speaker 8: specific us? Is it because it's all classified?

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Speaker 4: Because this is currently under review by the National security Because.

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Speaker 8: It's all classified. If it's not classified, share the text now.

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Speaker 4: As the White House previous?

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Speaker 3: Is it classified or non classified information? On this tech?

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Speaker 4: I can confer Doctor Radcliffe.

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Speaker 3: Were you on the group chat?

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Speaker 11: Senator? I was on a signal messaging group, so you

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Speaker 11: were the John Ratcliffe on that chat. I was thank you,

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Speaker 11: thank you. I can I provide some context, Senator to that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I've got a series of questions.

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Speaker 11: But I think it's important because at the outset you

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Speaker 11: made a couple of comments about signal messaging using encrypted apps.

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Speaker 3: So that we're clear.

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Speaker 11: One of the first things that happened when I was

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Speaker 11: confirmed as CIA director was signal was loaded onto my

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Speaker 11: computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers.

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Speaker 11: One of the things that I was briefed on very early,

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Speaker 11: Senator was by the CIA records management folks about the

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Speaker 11: use of signal as a permissible work use. It is

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Speaker 11: that is a practice that preceded the current administration. To

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Speaker 11: the bidencorrectly, I've got a series of questions, I do

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Speaker 11: you if you're making the same point, Well, if you're making.

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Speaker 8: The statement the signal is a secure channel.

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Speaker 11: No contest, And I answer that it is, I've got

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Speaker 11: to send encryption.

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Speaker 3: So it is my understanding.

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Speaker 11: It is permissible to use to communicate and coordinate for

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Speaker 11: work purposes, provided provided Centator that any decisions that are

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Speaker 11: made are also recorded through formal channels. So those were

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Speaker 11: procedures that were implemented. My staff implemented those processes, followed

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Speaker 11: those processes, complied with are you saying, And finally, just please,

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Speaker 11: so my communications, to be clear in a signal message

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Speaker 11: group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include

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Speaker 11: classified information.

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Speaker 8: We will we will make that determination because if it's

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Speaker 8: not classified, share the text with the committee.

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Speaker 3: You know, let me go.

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Speaker 8: Come on, Director Gabett, you are the security executive and

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Speaker 8: set access guidelines for classified information. Did you contact the

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Speaker 8: Defense Secretary or others after this specific military planning was

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Speaker 8: put out and say hey, we should be doing this

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Speaker 8: in a skiff?

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Speaker 4: There was no classified material that was shared in that.

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Speaker 8: So then if there was no classified material, share it

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Speaker 8: with the committee.

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Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways. These are important jobs.

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Speaker 3: This is our national security.

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Speaker 8: Bobbing and weaving and trying to you know, filibuster your answer.

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Speaker 3: So please answer the question if.

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Speaker 8: This was a rite and Director Gabbart, if this was

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Speaker 8: a rank and file intelligence officer who did this kind

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Speaker 8: of careless behavior, what would you do with them?

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Speaker 4: Senator, I'll reiterate that there is no classified material that

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Speaker 4: was shared in that and.

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Speaker 8: If there's no classified in materials, share and then if

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Speaker 8: there's no classified materials, then answer that. You can't even

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Speaker 8: answer the question whether you won the chat. This is

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Speaker 8: strangely in the year, and I think my colleagues will

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Speaker 8: remember when you couldn't answer the question.

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Speaker 3: Is Edward's nod in a traitor man? I have serious doubts.

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Speaker 8: About your anyway, Director Gabbart, I'm going to give you

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Speaker 8: this tweeted just eleven days ago, and I'm quoting you.

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Speaker 8: Any unauthorized release if classified information is a violation of

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Speaker 8: the law and will be treated as such. So if

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Speaker 8: this information is classified, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 4: Senator? Two points here. First of all, there's a difference

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Speaker 4: between inadvertent release versus careless and sloppy, malicious leaks of

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Speaker 4: classified information. The second point is there was no classified

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Speaker 4: information that was.

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Speaker 3: On the Information Committee shol get that.

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Speaker 8: Information Director and almost Security Director Patail. My time's about out,

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Speaker 8: and I'm going to use my twelve seconds. The chairman

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Speaker 8: game Director Pattail has the FBI alanned any investigation of.

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Speaker 10: This, Senator. I was just briefed about it late last Sundy.

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Speaker 10: This morning, I don't have an update.

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Speaker 3: I would like to get an answer by the end

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Speaker 3: of the day.

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Speaker 7: At this point in the ordinary course of affairs, I

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Speaker 7: would recognize in her collins she asked me to express

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Speaker 7: to you that she is under the weather this morning.

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Speaker 7: She regrets her absence, but anticipates submitting written questions to

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Speaker 7: which I would request your prompt replies for the Senator

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Speaker 7: sentaer Corny Director Gabert.

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Speaker 6: I applaud President Trump's efforts to try to bring a

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Speaker 6: end to the war between Russia and Ukraine. I want

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Speaker 6: to read a statement out of the Annual Threat Assessment

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Speaker 6: and just confirm that you agree with this.

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Speaker 3: It says Russia views.

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Speaker 6: It's ongoing war with Ukraine conflict with the West.

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Speaker 1: Of course that's important. But I want to bring Jack

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Speaker 1: Bisovik in. We just saw some fireworks right there. I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate an audience. Tauca Gabbert initially took a hard line.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's under review. Get back to you. To me,

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Speaker 2: that is exactly what the responses should be.

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Speaker 1: I don't you have to explain to me. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand Ratcliffe. John Ratcliffe engaging in some conversation trying to

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Speaker 1: show about signal being a potential I guess classified classified

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Speaker 1: ability to put classified information on or you could have

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Speaker 1: a classified conversation. Jock, you know the uh you know that,

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Speaker 1: you know you know the tea leaves here, so walkers

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Speaker 1: through what just happened.

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Speaker 5: Right, So there's a couple of things right. Uh.

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Speaker 9: So the idea is that you can't share classified classfied

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Speaker 9: information cannot be shared on any unclassified system, period full stop.

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Speaker 9: These are entirely separate systems used to communicate whether it's

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Speaker 9: an unclassified uh server, So like you and I are

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Speaker 9: speaking on an unclassified server right now. Over the open Internet,

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Speaker 9: there are specifically dedicated systems called Supernet and Jaywix, which

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Speaker 9: are classific where it's our classified system super net for secret,

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Speaker 9: uh secret level information and jwix for top secret and

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Speaker 9: various caveated things. And there's there's different caveats which can

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Speaker 9: be shared through Zippernet as well, and various other types

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Speaker 9: of apartmented programs. But what you're talking about is using

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Speaker 9: signal on an on. What he's talking about is using

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Speaker 9: signal in an unclassified government controlled system, so it would

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Speaker 9: still be a closed system, but then could potentially using

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Speaker 9: I don't know, a web browser, uh, you know, Brave

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Speaker 9: browser or whatever you use to access the open inform

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Speaker 9: the open Internet to coordinate with other members of the government,

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Speaker 9: and certainly they all have a government issued cell phones.

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Speaker 9: Hillary Clinton course famously had her BlackBerry. Uh, there's there's

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Speaker 9: typically iPhones, different Samsung devices that government employees use now

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Speaker 9: for coordination.

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what this looked.

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Speaker 3: Like to me.

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Speaker 9: But the idea that the idea that you want to

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Speaker 9: get into that with Werner now.

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Speaker 5: Is it's only going to fuel.

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Speaker 9: The fire because they're going to try to say and

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Speaker 9: you could tell it sounded like what Ratcliffe was saying

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Speaker 9: was that, well, this was a Biden policy, that this

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Speaker 9: was put out there. And by the way, I'm sure

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Speaker 9: that the Biden administration was having these conversations. I'm sure

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Speaker 9: by the way, we know going back to Ben Rhoads.

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Speaker 9: Ben Rhodes, when he was the Deputy National Security Advisor

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Speaker 9: for Communications in the Oboma administration, would brag about he

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Speaker 9: would have a breathing on the Iran plan and then

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Speaker 9: he would walk over to the next room he'd be

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Speaker 9: inside the skip or wherever he was in the White

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Speaker 9: House and would brag about how he was leaking at

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Speaker 9: all the reporters to string them all along. So this

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Speaker 9: has always been a Democrat run thing, but now they're

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Speaker 9: using it against Republicans. Radcliffe, you're giving them an opening.

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Speaker 9: You're just giving them an opening to be able.

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Speaker 5: To come after you more with this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, Jack, We're going to take a short

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Speaker 1: break here. The Democrats are gonna come back firing on

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Speaker 1: all cylinders with more questions.

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Speaker 2: Bottom line is Tulsey Gabbert took a very hard line

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Speaker 2: there at the big line there at the.

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Speaker 1: Question why John Ratcliffe has Acaia didn't you have her back?

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Speaker 2: Take the hard line Forguret. Later, Cotton's already said there's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be a voted noon. This hearing, the public

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Speaker 1: part is going to end at noon. They're going to

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Speaker 1: go to closed door after the vote. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to try to cover as much of this as possible

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Speaker 1: as they are on the attack on President of Trump's

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Speaker 1: intelligence team, Taulca Gabbert, John Ratcliffe, And of course we

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Speaker 1: told you they were going to ask the first question.

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Speaker 2: They're going to ask.

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Speaker 1: Cash, has the FBI opened up an independent investigation? And

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Speaker 1: now they got cash from the hook to come back

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Speaker 1: by close the business with an answer, very dramatic Senate

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Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee from the heart building. Short commercial break and

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Speaker 1: real American voice in the war room, Jack Pasovic, It's

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Speaker 1: with Stephen K. Bennon, We're going to return in ninety seconds.