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And Ron Wilflat 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:58.120 it doesn't get any better than that. By unleash the 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.639 far right out of the gate, I'm just gonna make 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.760 it clear. Forget about Niners and Seahawks tonight on Thursday 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.520 Night Football. Come on now, the real NFC West spotlight 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.920 is right here on the Big Red Rage presented by 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.920 santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford because we 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.040 have in a guy who has been surging his game 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.800 has been growing and evolving, and you just saw him 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.560 star in the most recent episode of Hard Knocks and 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.040 Wolf Ron Wolflee There, Paul calBC here and Wolf. As 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.640 we intro our special guest tonight, I'm making my Listen, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.880 I'm checking it twice for Santa. You're never too old 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.319 to make a list for Santa. So you know what 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.320 I'm asking for. Yeah, I'm asking to be, Oh, I 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.120 don't know, sixty four, two hundred and seventy pounds. I'm 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.720 asking to be twenty two years of age, you know, 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.480 being an evolving NFL star. And I also wish that 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.480 I was from Carl's Bad, you know, from the California coast, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.680 and that I was wearing a shirt that said Carl's Bad. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.880 Right now, as our guest Cameron Thomas, is this evening? 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.480 Cam welcome? Hey guys, thanks having me on. Yeah, Cam, No, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.800 thank you so much for joining us. Man, we really 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.440 do appreciate it. You're from Carl's Bad, Cam, Yes, I've 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.880 been very blessed to be from Carlos Bad. Okay, No, No, honestly, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:19.280 what is Carl's Bad California? Like? Man, you know what, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.639 I honestly will say this, I kind of get a 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.160 lot of vibes from the Tempe area from Carlos Bad. However, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:26.760 we do have a beach. We do have that. We 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.760 have the town lake, but they have the beach. Um. Yeah, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.320 so you're north of San Diego, right, yeah, about forty 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.040 minutes north. Okay, okay, So Cam, did you also know 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.120 that Carl's Bad, California is the host to one of 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.840 the best motocross tracks in the United States of America? 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.200 Did you know that? It's a little new new news 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.840 to me? Um, you know, which is surprising. You know, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.440 I grew up going to glamis not too far from 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.040 here either, so that's something I should probably know. Oh 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.480 my goodness, Yes, the five hundred grand Prix a Carlsbad, Cali, Fornia. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.560 Man Hike Michela here he is on his bull talk. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.080 Oh okay, don't get me started. Well, if is that 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.800 a flashback to like the eighties? Because they are you 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.440 sure they haven't paved it over and put down multimillion 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.400 dollar homes on that racetrack? Are you sure there's a 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.760 real possibility? Okay, there is because we've got someone from 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.160 Carl's Bad. He hasn't heard of it, so all right, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.000 We'll get into that a little bit later. So here 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.680 we are, it's week fifteen. You tell us what has 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.359 this season been like, especially as a rookie. I mean, 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.440 compare and contrast, for example, how you feel now in 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.880 the NFL versus Oh, I don't know, last time we 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.839 had you in, which was a matter of weeks after 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.000 you had been drafted way back in May, I think 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.640 is the last time you're in this studio. Yeah, you know, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.000 I feel like every week I do feel more comfortable 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.040 with this within myself. This was as a person as 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.400 a player. Um, you know, I just continue to be 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.640 able to learn from the other players and just take 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.720 what they what they give me and try to applaut 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.800 to my own game. And uh yeah, I do believe 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.720 every week I feel more comfort And I'm just you know, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.840 looking back from when I was first on this show, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.200 when I first had drafted in here, and looking from 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.840 where I was there too now, I you know, it's 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.000 really crazy on that note right there, How have you 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.800 changed though? Specifically, Cam, how do you think you've changed 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.080 from the beginning to where you are now? I would 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.679 say this, I remember, you know, coming from college football, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.760 you know it's the the toughness wins games kind of 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.839 aspect to kind of more like, you know, more of 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.080 a mental game. I will say that it's a lot 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.520 more mental that at this level. And yes, being able 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.560 to just kind of just to learn and just study 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.680 teams and just be able to take little pieces from 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.920 here and there and be able to apply it in 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.000 the week, Um, is something that has definitely helped it 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.480 grow and expand my game. Cameron Thomas is our guest 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.960 here at Cardinals round three, rookie out of San Diego State. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.000 In fact, Buddha Baker just stood in front of his 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:01.560 locker and said, seventy five percent of the NFL is mental. Absolutely, yeah, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.680 a hundred percent agree with them. Yeah. So let's fast 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.960 forward to April or May, right, and the new crop 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.920 of rookies comes in. What sort of advice do you 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.480 think you would give them? What would you tell them 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.200 to expect? And I don't know, would you give him 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.920 any any sort of best practices? What would you say 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.919 to say? Keep your head in the game, you know, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.279 and it gets easier every week, it really does. And um, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.360 you get in that playbook because it's only gonna get 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.880 in the field faster. So Cam, good or bad. Were 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.880 you surprised by anything to do with the National Football League? Uh, 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:33.880 you know I would I would probably just say the 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.320 same thing I just said, you know, just with the 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.039 knowledge of the game, you know, coming in, Um, you know, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.839 when you think of the NFL, you know, I thought 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.840 it was like, you know, a next up, next step up, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.680 a level of grind um and and it really is, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.000 but just a different aspect going from the physical more 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.359 to mental. Um. You know. I thought if by you know, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.159 by graduating college, you know, I would be able to 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.920 kind of relax and studying. But it's the exact opposite. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.480 So so far, you've played what thirteen game games? Right, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:05.040 So who's been the biggest, baddest, most difficult assignment for 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.840 you so far? That's a great question. I think the 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.360 biggest time I had came actually back from training camp, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.839 you know, going from interior d lineman back to a 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.200 standopouts a linebacker. I think there was a bit of 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.760 an adjustment there. And you know, every week I think 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.840 I just like I said, I get just way more comfortable. Um, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.640 you know, it's rolling off my ball from my stance. Um. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.320 And yeah, about an opponent, how about about like an 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.240 opposing offensive lineman. Who's the toughest guy you've gone against 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.560 for whatever reason. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna have 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.320 to give it to Trent Williams. You know, he's earned 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.080 his reputation for a reason, just be able to watch 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.040 you know. Uh, you know how he takes other very 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.440 high calibert um you know NFL players, and how he 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.919 kind of treats them and neutralizes them. Yeah, exactly. But 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.279 you know, um, I will say that, Yeah, I watched 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.159 Marcus gold and get after that dude. And after seeing that, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.560 you know, I did learn that. You know, you know, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.120 you can respect players in this league, but at the 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.640 end of the day, they are just players and players 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.720 can be beat. So oh that is great, Cam, That 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.600 really is man, That is that is growth I think 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.040 from you. Um. You know we're in December, as Paul 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.880 he was talking about, it's almost Christmas. Cam, you got 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.000 four games left. Man, did you hit a wall at 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.400 all this year? Uh? No, not at all. Actually, you know, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.400 I'm still very excited to be able to play every 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.520 single Sunday. Um, no, not at all. How about physically though, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.360 I mean physically, if you have you had a week 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.760 or have you gotten to the point because honestly, there 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.120 were a number of rookies last year that about this 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.400 point sort of faded physically, and just you know, a 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.640 long NFL season, it goes so far beyond a college 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.520 season in so many ways, and in a lot of ways, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.520 you haven't had a break because you had to prepare 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.400 for the draft and then you just kept on going, right. Yeah, no, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.000 absolutely no, there is Uh, the season is obviously much longer, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.760 and uh, you know, I think I think I've been 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.480 doing a pretty good job of keeping up with my body. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.040 You know, I've had obviously just the normal bumps and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.240 bruises throughout the season here. But yeah, I think I've 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.240 been doing a good job and just taking care of 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.160 my body, and it's been taking care of me. So 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.000 who was the toughest dude to tackle this year? If 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.200 I may ask, you know, Kenneth Walker. I gotta give 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.440 him a lot of respect. Oh yeah, I do give 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.840 him a lot of respects. Christian McCaffrey is up there 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.560 as well, just just in terms of how elusive they 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.200 are or is it the combination of the ability to 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.800 make you miss and or run over you. Yeah, So 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.080 Kenneth Walker's you know, he's got he's gotten a little 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.280 more of the run through you type of m part 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.480 to his game. But Christian McCaffrey, you know, he'll make 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.000 you miss in a phone booth. So yeah, you just 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.280 gotta respect both of them. They have different games, but 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.200 both very good players. Yeah, Cam, I'm going to ask 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.880 you to go ahead and look at your season and 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.120 evaluate your season for us if you don't mind, Like, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.640 how do you think it's gone for you? Well, I'll 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.040 say this right now. I'm a lot tough for them 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.000 on myself, and I think a lot of people will 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.280 agree on Have you always spend that way? Absolutely? You know, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.079 even my last year of college football when I came out, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.400 and you know, I still think that there was still 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.800 a lot to improve on. You know, I still took 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.319 my chances came out in the draft, but yeah, no, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.360 I definitely think there's a lot more that I could 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.040 prove on through the year, you know, And I would 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:24.080 say a lot more. I mean, yeah, more mental, Like 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.360 I said, like, it's still learn a lot more of 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.280 the game of the football, and you know, definitely some 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.640 big steps there. But yeah, I think every single week 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.960 I am improving and taking those steps. But yeah, there's 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.080 definitely a bit of adjustment period. So when your position 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.280 group is out there, you're working with the outside linebackers. Correct, Yes, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.240 yet you are a nose tackle at times of San 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.600 Diego State. Yeah, it's amazing. And then during games you're 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.360 used in a variety of ways just till some of 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.400 the different spots you've already played this year. Yeah, so 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.880 this year, you know, I played a little bit of 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.600 obviously stand upouts a linebacker, whether it was a five 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.160 you know, head up on or outside shade of the 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.000 office tackle or a nine technique outside of the state 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.760 of the tight end. You know, there's some packages and 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.240 they were off on myself in there from a three 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.040 tech rushing and I'm very comfortable doing that. You know, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.760 that's something actually coming into the NFL, I was a 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.160 lot more comfortable doing the rushing the edge. And it's 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.800 funny how things it flits, but yeah, you know that's 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.160 something I don't mind doing it. I really do enjoy it, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.000 you know, And with Zach you know, obviously you know, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.320 hurting his hand that, you know, I wouldn't be surprised 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.720 if I found myself more in there this week and 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.000 going forward, and yeah, just anything I could do to 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.480 be valuable to this team. I'm up for doing. Cam, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.320 what do you think was your best game this season? 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.600 And why do you think it was your best game? 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.640 That's a great question. So a big trait or one 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.280 of my best traits I believe I have as a 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.120 players my effort and you know there might be, you know, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.280 some games where I might have more win percentage or 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.000 you know, I might have better statistics. But I actually 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.040 really liked last game against New England. I think my 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.560 effort are out more in that game than it has 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.800 in the other games, and that's kind that's kind of 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.079 something I usually based myself off. So I think I 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.880 think New England was a game I said I look 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.080 up to. I'll tell you what. We got a little 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.680 insight into the lead up to that game on Hard 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.480 Knocks And for everyone who doesn't know, Cameron Thomas is 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.680 our guests round three rookie And in college you wore 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:26.199 number ninety nine because J. J. Watt and so there 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.760 you were. It was the two of you in one 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.000 of the meeting rooms and Hard Knocks caught that moment 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.040 and here's a little clip. The number one thing you 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.280 got to remember is that you also have strengths. Never 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.560 talk yourself out of being successful. So like you have 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.360 a great bull rush and you have a great long run. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.760 Just because this guy is good against it doesn't mean 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.640 you can't win with it. I'm here or twelve, I'm 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.120 still learning. That's JJ Watt to our guest Cameron Thomas. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.679 Is it possible to summarize, just capitualize what have you 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.120 learned from JJ Watt this year? Yeah, there's there's definitely 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.400 some of the things that I've learned from him, you know, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.680 whether he's physically told me or just me observing him. Um, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.520 as a player, you know, I'm the reason he got 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.520 to where he is today. Is his worth ethic and 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.080 you know, his leadership is is something. Um, you know 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.880 that's also a very big aspect of him. But yeah, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.360 just being able to see him, you know, kind of 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.000 do his workouts, be able to see his practice habits, um, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.400 just kind of see the way the way he carries 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.960 himself throughout this building is something you know that's really 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.400 inspiring and really helps the young player like myself. Kim, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.040 What is he like? You know what I mean? It's 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.920 as a teammate, you know, we know the public perception 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.000 of J. J. Watt of course, but as a teammate, Um, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.960 what is he like? Is he is he a funny guy? 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.959 Does he like to laugh? But what does J. J. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.800 Watt like as a teammate? Now, JJ definitely has to 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.640 have fun. Um, you know he's he could be sarcastic, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.600 definitely and um, now he'll definitely joke around with you, 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.000 but at the same time he'll be locked in and 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.880 you know, understanding where he needs to be. And um yeah, yeah, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.800 some of those clips him giving given Zach Allen the 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.400 business on the sideline during practice. Yeah, that's him, right, Yeah, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.840 that's that's JJ. And how many times are you asked that? 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.200 Do people come up to you and say, Cam, I 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.200 know you play with JJ? Want man, you know what's 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.440 he like? Do you get Do you get asked that 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.920 all the time? Yeah? No, I definitely get asked that 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.160 a couple of times. Um, you know, definitely from from 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.800 people I'm close to. So and hey, you wanted to 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.280 know the answer to that yourself once you got drafted. Right. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.920 In fact, here's Van's Joseph just JJ's impact on you 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.640 earlier today, Cam win his number in college. I mean, 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.880 it was as obvious that he was a hero of 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.480 Cams and Cam's first day on a job, it was 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.480 funny to watch him, you know, just walk around JJ 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.280 and to stare at him, and he wouldn't say anything 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.760 to him, but he would just stare at him, you know. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.199 He was funny to watch that. But now Cam's got 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.120 those straits, you know, and he's a young guy. He's 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.400 eager to learn. I mean, you know, if like Joe 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.839 Buck was in here or some premier broadcaster, I'd probably 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.640 be staring at him too, right, I mean it's just 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.240 sort of natural, right, Yeah. No, I definitely remember that 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.560 first time I saw It was definitely an eye opener, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.280 you know, seeing this guy that I've just watched for 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.440 so long, you know, right in front of me. I 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.160 think VJ kind of exaggerated a little bit. I'm the 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.920 staring h He's gotta tell the media a good story, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.840 you know. No, I definitely remember the first time I 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.480 met him, though. It was right when I got drafted. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.120 Walked in here. He was in the middle of a 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.240 workout and I didn't want to distract him, but I 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.160 walked up to him and induced myself while he was 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.280 talking to VJ. I do remember VJ making a comment. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.520 I don't remember exactly what it was, but yeah, you're like, hey, DJ, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.760 I'm not a stalker around here. Yeah, go ahead, Wolf. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.560 No no, I was just gonna say, man, that did 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.520 this year teach you anything? And if so, what what 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:46.040 did it teach you? I taught me to shoot a 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.520 ton of things. And honestly, at the top of my 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.360 head here, um, I don't think there's any more about confidence, cam. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.640 I mean, honestly, like I think every rookie, every rookie 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.360 has got to experience a point in the season where 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.120 it's just you the pillow at night. Man, for whatever reason, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.480 you're up at two thirty in the morning and the 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.720 shadows are creeping across the ceiling and you're awake, and 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.840 yet you're thinking about your profession, you're thinking about your sport, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.840 you're thinking about your game, and at some point of 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.720 time camp you have to be able to say to yourself, man, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.880 I got this. If you had that moment this year, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.840 uh yeah I did. Actually, Um, that was that was 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.040 eye open it for me in training camp. I remember 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.520 I started off you know, um, there's a little bit 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.560 of a transition from the you know, the change of 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.200 the positions and I never really blamed that at all. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:40.760 I never looked at it like that way at all. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.120 But I remember there was a period of there's a 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.520 dry period where I wasn't making any place. Shoot. I 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.400 remember it was like maybe like four or five days 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.880 in the camp and I haven't done anything, and I 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.480 was just like I look at myself like like, you know, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.360 like what's going on right now? Like this isn't the camera, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:59.120 I know, And I remember there's something happened. I don't 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.280 remember remember exactly what it was, but I was like 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.640 I was getting pretty down on myself. I was just 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.040 like this is you know, it is what it is. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.200 And I remember like the first main made play Main 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.680 training camp, I got like washed from one side of 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.120 the ball all the other and the tackle basically put 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.840 me right to the running back because you know he 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.960 put me there um and a gap that was like 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.560 four over um. And I was really embarrassing myself. And 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.800 I remember that night in my room at the hotel, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.320 I was just like, I'm just gonna cut this thing loose, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.440 you know, you know, I don't got much to lose. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.000 I'm you know, I don't have anything. I haven't really 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.120 gained too much as I've been here, so I'm just 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.520 love this thing loose. And as soon as I did that, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.440 I mean, it was a whole new player. And that 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.360 was the player I was at San Diego State. You know, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.560 I just I went out there. I have fun and 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.680 I did not care. I just I went out there 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.160 and I went and um, ever since then, I think 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.400 us exactly what it's been. I've just gotten out there 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.240 every single day. UM, enjoyed playing the sport. You know, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.640 I grew up loving and I'm very blessed to be 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.440 in the position I'm in. Now that's a great story 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.200 and it's echoes what JJ Watt tells. The Vans Joseph 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.440 was on that he's and staff when jj Watt was 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.360 a first round rookie said, most of his rookie year 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.240 he struggled. And jj Watt said, I was trying to 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.080 do this for that coach and this for that coach, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.879 and I realized, I just gotta be myself. I'm already struggling. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.399 I just gotta I gotta be myself. And if I stink, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.919 well I already stink. And then he said, boom, that 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:23.199 was the turning point. And Vans Joseph said the game 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.359 was a playoff game his rookie year, and according to 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.440 Van's Joseph, he did things that he never seen a 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.080 defensive lineman ever do. And that's where JJ watt more 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:37.080 initially and eventually into a three time NFL Defensive Player 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.400 of the Year. So that that's a great story sort 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.280 of that having that epiphany at that moment. So we'll 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.760 continue here with Cameron Thomas. We'll talk about the Broncos 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.280 and what's straight ahead on the Big Red Rage presented 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:54.880 by Santan four in Gilbert snapped, the Smith drops back 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.280 to throw pressure on his face. He's in trouble and 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.479 he goes down. He sacked back at the twenty one 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.360 yard line. Cam Thomas, the rookie, is there for the 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.440 Cardinals to make the play. First career sacked or Cam Thomas. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.280 Herbert back to throw up third down in trouble, steps 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.199 up sect again at the forty four yard line. This 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.960 time it's Cam Thomas steps up in the pocket, gets hit, armed, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.960 is hit, ball flutters picked off by Simmons at the 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.960 forty yard line and tackled at the thirty seven Cam Thomas. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.920 Swite had the throwing arm of Mac Jones. The ball 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.199 fluttered into the air, picked off by Simmons. There you go. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.560 A highlight montage twenty twenty two, the Rookie Year for 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.480 our guest in the Big Red Rage, presented by Santanford 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.920 in Gilbert Cameron Thomas, who was the first San Diego 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.360 State player drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the top 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.760 three rounds since Wolf, a former team eighty years. It 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.360 was actually nineteen eighty seven, the year before they moved 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.320 to Arizona, round three out of San Diego State at 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.520 tight end by the name of Rob A Wall. Rob. Yeah, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.640 he was awesome. Wolf. Did you ever fight Rob a Walt? 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.720 I didn't see Cam. You have to ask Wolf these 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.879 questions because he tended to mix it up with a 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.960 lot of a lot of players, including his own teammates. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.000 So you have to be real clear as Booth had 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:16.160 that mentality as a player. Ye, please don't judge. Yeah, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.760 oh no, no judgment at all here. I actually respect it. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.040 Thank you. What's your favorite play so far this season 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.400 that you've made? And dare I say against the team 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.440 you grew up watching, maybe the Chargers a couple of 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.919 weeks ago, early first quarter. You can take us through it. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.480 If you want and give us the play by play 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.840 if that's indeed your choice. Yeah. Um, you know, looking back, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.840 you know there's there's a lot of plays in there 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.520 that I'm in a high fire favor of, but that 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.919 play in particular, that was a pretty special play for me. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.239 You know, being a kid from San Diego, you know 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.359 the Chargers growing up, you know about thirty minutes in 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.000 my house. So yeah, that was a super special play. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.040 I had a ton of people that game, you know 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.639 that you know, drove up, um, drove on over and 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.600 um yeah, I just I just remember that was actually 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.320 my first play of that game. Wow, it was the 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.680 first play the game. Am I got in there and 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:03.960 uh you know JJ already kind of warmed him up 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.000 and kind of Sacaron right before I did. And uh yeah, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.919 I just remember I took I was I took my 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.359 rush up the field. Um. You know, Junk had a 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.320 really good markets school and had a really good rush 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.600 on the other side, flushed them up, and um I 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.840 was able to counter at the level and you know, 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.840 uh hit Herbert fur through the ball and then there 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:29.840 was the celebration yes do tell um, which is kind 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.160 of funny. Uh yeah that I'm being a kid from 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.800 San Diego. That was my fifth time ever surfing and 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:41.240 it was on grass, So that's good. That was Yeah, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.080 that was definitely something to remember. So, Cam, where's your 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:50.639 future on the line of scrimmage? Man? Is it? Is it? Edge? Five? Technique, 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.359 three technique? I know you got to be able to 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.960 move around, But if you had a preference, where would 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.919 it be? Cam? Yeah, you know, I definitely say I 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.679 would be comfortable at all those positions. However, you know, 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.639 I feel really happy I'm in the spot now, you know, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.000 being a stand up backer. Um, you know, I just 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.320 you know, I always I never would have thought I 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:09.679 would have ever said that, you know, I thought I 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.480 was always gonna be a traditional hand of the dirt 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.800 type of guy. But you know, being able to kind 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.320 of get best in both worlds. I do really enjoy 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.760 standing up on the edge because wol if you remember 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.560 Zach Allen after his rookie year, right, he went into 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.600 a real rigorous offseason regiment and he put on weight 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:31.040 and strength and size. I could see you maybe doing 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.880 that following that, Zach Allen, But no that you don't 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.919 envision that as your off season, you know, obviously, you know, 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.479 whatever the team wanted to do with me if they 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.600 did want to put me inside, Um, you know, it's 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.360 something we could definitely talk about doing. But um yeah, 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.200 if I if I was to have a preference, I'd 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.480 be pretty happy where I'm at now. Oh I love 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:52.200 that Cam's the stand up. It's some more edge correct. Yeah, okay, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.639 So what do you think would you have to drop 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:56.960 some weight? Do you think you'd have to drop weight 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.359 or do you like your right your weight right where 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.720 you are now? Yeah? You know, I've actually dropped a 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.640 decent amount of weight since I've been here. I came 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.919 in here around I remember my first way in here 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.720 it was like two sixty nine, although I remember like 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.680 just not drinking any water prior to that way, and 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.760 I was the closer to like two seventy three. Uh. 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.959 You know, right now I'm sitting anywhere from like fifty 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.040 eight to two sixty and you know, I feel really 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.000 comfortable in that in that range, and um, yeah, I 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.280 feel like I didn't lose really any strength or any 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.720 power and just gained some speed off it. So god. Yeah, 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.159 Well here's your defensive coordinator earlier today, just on the 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.280 progress you have made during your rookie season, Cam, with 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.720 more turns, you know, we'll get more sacks. You know, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.520 it's just playing with a lead, you know, and having 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.800 more chances to rush freely. You know, that's that's been 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.040 our problem. But Cam's a guy who can win one 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.159 on one rushes. I mean he's he's played awful lot 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.320 in the last month. He's won a lot, you know, 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.720 but he needs more turns, you know, with a fair 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.080 game and a lead. Yeah, think about that, right, Like 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.119 last week, look at New England. They had two sacks 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.240 in the first three quarters, they get a two score lead, 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.960 and then they had four or sacks in the fourth quarter. 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.040 It's sort of the way it works, right because now 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.119 you can just rush with abandon right, Yeah, exactly. You know, UM, 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.240 give your your defensive freedom, you know when there when 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:11.960 the offense has it through the ball down to feel 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.920 like that, um, you know, when they're down. You know, 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.439 it definitely creates a lot more opportunities for a defense 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.640 to make this place. And you know, Cam, we want 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:23.159 you to look forward obviously, this beautiful part of the 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.600 program here, we want you to look forward to down 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.119 the road. Um, where do you think you can actually 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.119 make the biggest strides next year? Is it? Is it 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.720 as the n edge rusher and your techniques? Is it? 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.399 Is it against the run? Where do you think you 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.240 can actually take your biggest strides. Yeah, there's definitely a 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.000 lot of aspects. You know, I still got to grow 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.359 at um, you know something for me, I think I 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.000 could definitely just take that next step, the next jump 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.440 in the run game and just lock it down. You know, 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.879 obviously I have some I have some good players, have 0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.040 some bad places, but just the consistency, I'd say in 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.200 the run game, who would be something that could really 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.560 take me to that next level. And obviously you know 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.280 in the past game, you know, I could definitely there's 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.520 definitely a lot of area of improvement there. And um, 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.320 you know, I'm sure as um, the more I play, 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.119 the more comfortable I'll get. So what do you expect 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.760 of the Denver Broncos. What do they do well? And 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.000 what what do you know so far about what's going 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.639 to be most important on Sunday? Yeah, so just watching 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.800 from whyviously, the Denver Broncos, whatever the media has portrayed 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:29.880 them so far is not what they'll click on film. 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.439 I think they are a very good team and you know, Um, 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.679 whether Russell plays or not, he's a very talented player. Um. 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.480 He could rip the ball down the field. You know, 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.320 he could run out of the pocket, and he is 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.639 a difference maker in games. Um. So I mean between 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.080 that and you know, stopping the run, Um, you know 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.359 there they are a good opponent. If in fact, Russell 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.159 Wilson plays, I question whether or not he will. But 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.600 if he does, Um, what would it mean to wax 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.480 is back? I mean with that, with that kind of 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.280 geek you out a little bit. I would imagine you've 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.240 been watching him as a kid for a long time. 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.399 Oh absolutely. You know, there's I think a lot of 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.440 edge rushers when they come into the league. There's always 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.240 a couple of guys they kind of have at the 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.160 top of the list. Everybody's on the list, but there's 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.960 a couple of guys that are just sitting out. There's 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.640 a little bit more and I would I would put 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.639 him up there. Um. Yeah, you know, I remember my 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.399 first draft of Arizona. I was like super fresh, like 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.040 within the hour of getting drafted, you know, I was 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.679 kind of like looking things up on the team, how 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.200 to put up the roster this than that, obviously, I 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.320 know Seattle was in the conference and I was bummed out. 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.920 I was like, dang, he just got traded, and you know, 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.480 I'm not gonna have the opportunity. And then the schedule 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.119 comes out a couple of weeks later and there he is, 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.600 so um, you know, I hope he plays and yeah, 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.520 I hope, I hope it works out well. Wolf. You 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.560 remember we had my j Sanders in here. I think 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.520 it was in May. It was, you know, fresh out 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.600 of the draft. And I didn't even finish the question. 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.199 I said, my Jay, which NFL quarterback do you want 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.640 to sack the most? He jumped the question. It said 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.680 Tom Brady Immediately he said Tom Brady, how about you? Oh, 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.119 I mean Tom Brady. I think he's up there and 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.720 too well everybody list, I mean, how how could he 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.840 not be? That would that'd be a merry Christmas right there, 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.920 if in fact you were able to get that. Um. 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.200 When it comes to the Denver Broncos, describe their offense 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.040 for me if you could. I you know, from your 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.000 perspective right now, are they trying to run the ball. 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.440 Do you think they're a power rushing team? Do you do? 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.680 I mean, do they like to use play go ahead 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.280 and describe the Denver Broncos what you see on tape. Yeah, 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.880 they do pass the ball, you know, it's a little 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.840 bit more than they do run it. I mean when 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.320 they do run the ball, they like to you know, 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.800 it's like use variation of zone plays. Um, they'll use 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.679 slashers you know here and there and um yeah, then 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.840 they'll obviously they'll pass the ball. So, um, we gotta 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:52.800 we have to be ready. I mean they got hot 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.600 against Kansas City. They're down twenty seven nothing, they lost 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.000 thirty four twenty eight. Yeah. They put a lot of 0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.840 yards and a lot of points on the scoreboard in 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.560 our hurry last week, didn't they? Oh yeah absolutely Yeah. 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.119 Like like I said, you know what they look like. 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.800 I'm um, film from what you know, from what I've 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.320 heard going into this game, they do not correlate to me, 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.639 like I really, Um, do you give the Broncos a 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.800 ton of credit? Cam? Did you have any goals coming 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.439 into this season? My biggest goal is to have fun, 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.440 to make plays. Um, so good one. Yeah. How about 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.359 rookie duties? You know, Trey McBride said earlier today that 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.639 he still has rookie duties that Max Williams made him 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.440 decorate the tight end room for Christmas. Oh yeah, we 0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.720 got we got two trees in our room actually, so 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.200 not trying to make it a competition at all, but 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.119 you know we do have that. We got the whites, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.920 We have the stockings, U should we had a reef 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.119 and snacks. Do you have to get snacks and stuff 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.600 for the guys still too? Oh yeah, we got some 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.280 snacks two days ago or a couple of days ago. 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.399 Hit Costco got the Celsia strengths. Load him in the fridge, 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.679 you know. And of course every Saturday we gotta get 0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:00.760 donuts for the groups. So yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wolf 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.000 still getting my drinks around here. That's the way I work. 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.040 So Cameron, thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for having 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.040 me on. Guys. We continue with a big red rage 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:15.320 presented by Santan four in Gilbert play fake Murray setting 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.840 up looking deep that takes off running the right at 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.320 the thirty five, at the forty and dives to about 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.080 the forty four yard line, a gain of three for 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:28.960 Kyler Murray and and I'm injured Cardinal. It's Tyler who 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.399 went down very awkwardly that time as he tried to 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:40.960 cut Oh no, non contact. He cut right, then tried 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.040 to cut left and just buckle, and there was a 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.440 Patriot player right there who called to the Cardinals sideline 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.600 to bring on the training staff. It looked like when 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.040 he went to the ground the injury had already happened. 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.960 He was in pain, his head started to come back, 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.040 and he just went to the ground. Oh boy, we 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.760 got to one. We got the one. We got a 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.840 roupree boards and poker, we got a roupup books, we 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:11.120 got some brothers. Now, let's go regroup and get one 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.640 for one. Let's go, everybody, regroup, get one for one. 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.760 Let's go. That's JJ Watt right there. That was from 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.600 Hard Knocks in NFL films. As several players were miked up. 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.120 Almost all the players were around Kyler Murray when he 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.200 went down, and just like that, three plays into the game, 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.040 the Cardinals had to go with Plan B. Colt McCoy 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.040 and it will be Plan B the rest of this 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.760 season and then unknown into the off season, sort of 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.000 like we're going Plan B right now. Technically, Ron Wopley 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.320 is yours truly with an issue on the line, so 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.840 we've got to go with an alternate game plan here. 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.760 Paul calvc Ron Wopley The Big Red Rage presented by 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:53.320 santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford props to 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.120 Cameron Thomas, and we'll talk a little bit more about 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.720 Cameron Thomas and what he had to say. But first 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.920 your thoughts on loss. Forget the game, and it's much 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.440 worse when you lose your franchise quarterback to a season 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:09.600 ending knee injury torn ACL non contact on the third 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.880 play of the game. As we're just hurt, Yeah, Paula. 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.160 Really is a just a horrible situation that has happened 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.680 with the Orizinal Cardinals. Right now, we all know the 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.320 kind of season that they've had, we all know the 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:27.640 many distractions that they've had. This just seems like an 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:32.280 exclamation point on the entire season. And to see your 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:36.920 franchise quarterback Kyler Murray go down on play number three 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:42.640 of this game, another non contact injury. We've seen it 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.840 all over the National Football League this year, of course, 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.880 with a Cardinals non contact and now all of a 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:54.400 sudden you see Kyler Murray go down. It's a horrible 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.800 occurrence for Kyler Murray. Yet at the same time I 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.560 have to wonder if it gives him an opportunity to 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.040 reflect as to where he's been and where he wants 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.040 to go. Yeah, he was emotional. We all saw it. 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.800 It was on Monday Night football. He was on the 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.560 card the towel was on his head. He took the 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.040 towel off. He acknowledged the crowd or some tears maybe 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.800 even in his eyes as they were carting him off. 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.400 Matthew Judan knew it right away. I was on the sideline. 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.480 You could see Judan immediately signaling to the Cardinals sideline. 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.680 And then after the game, Colt McCoy, who finished the 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.560 game and as your QB one the rest of this season, 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.560 shared with the media this week about how he left 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.080 the stadium and he went right over to Kyler's house. Yeah, 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.520 touched Kyler. Bunch spent a couple of hours with him 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.120 at his house after the game Monday night. His spirits 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:48.240 were fine, like he's smiling, but I mean it's an injury, 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.000 and you know we're all upset. He's upset, you know, 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.520 he's frustrated, but his spirits were in a good place 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.840 and he'll attack the rehab. We've got great doctors here 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.560 and lots of guys have come back from acl hasn't 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.040 been just fine. So I think he's got full confidence 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.600 in that, and you know, it's part of the game, 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.320 but it's a it's a shock and so you know, well, 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.520 I'll put arms around him for sure. That is a 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.560 lot of different angles here. Well, what about the game 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.840 that Kyler plays though, because you know, we can talk 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.280 about a Joe Burrow as the most recent example, but 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.400 obviously Kyler is one of the most athletic quarterbacks in 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.000 the league, and his legs are so vital to what 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.080 he does. Is that present a different dynamic, a different 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.800 challenge in this case? Yeah, you know, honestly, I think 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.600 anytime you blow your ACL out you have to worry 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.200 about that in the long term effects that that could have. 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.760 But you're talking about Kyler Murray, who's still so young, 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.400 Paully and also too just the way they deal with 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.960 acls today, it's not like back when I was playing 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.720 in nineteen eighty five, when I came into the league. 0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.160 Polly nineteen ninety even, I can tell you that if 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.320 you blew your ACL out most of the time, you 0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.200 were never going to be the same. It didn't mean 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.280 you couldn't come back from an ACL you could, but 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.760 most of the time, PAULI, it meant you weren't going 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.640 to be the same guy. That no longer is the 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.440 case anymore. It's not the metaphorical death sentence that it 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:25.880 once was. For guys that use their athleticism to make plays, 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.160 Guys like Kyler Murray, guys like running backs and wide 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:34.000 receivers and cornerbacks. You can come back from an ACL 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.520 and it be darned near one hundred percent of what 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.920 you were before. Now is that going to be the 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.640 case with Kyler Murray? We don't know. We're going to 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.640 have to wait and see. But man, being as young 0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:50.120 as he is, I honestly don't think this is going 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:55.440 to inhibit him and his career in the near future. Yeah. 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.880 I think of a young Tyr Matthew. Remember the end 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.400 of his rookie year, and that was hillacious knee injury. 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.920 It was much worse than a torn a cl and 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.200 the Cardinals medical team did a phenomenal job with that 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.920 surgery in that rehab, and obviously Tyron Matthews had a 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.960 borderline Hall of Fame career ever since. You know, But 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.600 you know, Paul, that first year back, PAULI, do you 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.160 remember that, Yeah, first year fourteen. It took a while, 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.000 You're right, it did. It took a while for him, 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:29.160 you know. And everybody's different, man, everybody heals differently. Everybody 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.520 has a different knee, a different reaction. Maybe there was 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.920 more damage done to Tyrone's knee, maybe there wasn't. I 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.600 don't know the specifics of that, but I just know 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.480 that everyone's different. But Tyrone is an excellent example to 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.560 a guy that came back and yet it took him 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.840 a year to look like himself. Yeah, yeah, no question 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.960 and so, and it just presents so much uncertainty. Obviously 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.680 in the off season, are you actually gonna invest assets 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:03.000 into another quarterback? Is this Colton McCoy show, maybe even 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.719 through a considerable part of next year. So those are 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.839 just huge offseason questions. As for the final four games, 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.960 and especially what you're looking at in Denver, I mean, Wolf, 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.319 there's no doubt that this team trusts Colt McCoy, Right, 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.399 he's decisive, Yes, either's you knows. As hollowand Brown told 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.960 us yesterday, there isn't a single coverage or scheme he 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.520 hasn't seen before. So if nothing else, you come in 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.520 with a quarterback who really is almost like a player 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.200 coach in so many ways. Yeah, no, he really is 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.600 listening for the next four games. Colton McCoy, this is 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.880 one of the best backups in the league to me 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:45.040 right now for this situation, this offense Kyler Murray. Of course, 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.920 for Colton McCoy to be a backup, he has already 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:52.239 proven his value and his worth to this team. It's 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.320 one of the reasons why the Cardinals went ahead and 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:58.320 extended him, signed him to a two year contract. So 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.839 he's under contract going into next year. He's not only 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.239 going to finish this year. I think they're okay going 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.520 into next year with Colton McCoy. Now, PAULI, what does 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.520 that mean? What does that look like? Do they bring 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.239 another veteran in? Is that a possibility bring another guy 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.160 in in case something were to happen to Colton McCoy. 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:23.040 Do they bring another veteran in to compete with Colton McCoy. 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.880 I don't know those answers. I just know and you 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.600 know this as well. Cliff Kingsbury and the Arizona Cardinals 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:34.600 are very very comfortable with Colton McCoy as their quarterback. 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.200 And here's the other thing. I think it just heightens 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.560 the importance of improving everything else around Colt McCoy this offseason. 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.480 Why are the Niners still winning with a third string 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.239 quarterback because they have great We have great offensive line 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.240 and defensive line right the number one defense in the league. 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.279 They have a great running game, and they have the 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:01.080 ability to just throw the ball short guys make you know, 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.520 defenders miss in all the yack yards you It is 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.160 imperative that you build it up around Cole McCoy, starting 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.080 with his Denver game, that you don't get behind by 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.400 Q scores so you can stay balanced and have a 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.160 run game. Yeah, Paulie, no doubt about it. We're all 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:20.800 gonna have a front row seats, So hold on. And 0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.400 Cole McCoy, by the way, you know, look, he was 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.600 one quarterback in the first three quarters and then that 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.200 final quarter of Monday Night Football when he got sacked 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.320 four times as a defense in New England was just 0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.800 team off on him. So he got to stay in 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.680 the game, and you got to continue to run James 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.200 Conner and open up the passing game. As we continue 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.560 with a big red rage present of by San tan 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.040 Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford. We'll be back 0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:52.239 right after this. I'll be the first one to say 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.360 I made some calls, all right, but the basic that 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.160 we know how to do it means a lot in 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.160 these games. It's hard, we're coming. It continues to happen. 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.880 It's getting it right in practice. And hold each other accountable, 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.960 all right. Treat you like men. That's how it's going 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.440 to be. That may be a fault of mine, but 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.239 I'm gonna treat you like men. So we got to 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.640 hold each other accunable somehow the last month because we're 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.319 better than that. Can I understand that? That's it? We're 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:15.839 better than that And that's all I want to see 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.040 for this group the last month. But your best football 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.920 because I love being around you guys, love ting to 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.080 work every day with you. You practice hard, you fight 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.800 your assi for each other. But we have to do 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:29.120 it right because we're giving away. That's one thing to 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:33.239 get beat, it's another thing to beat yourself. And will 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.920 if we talk so much up until that Money Night 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.560 game about what are you gonna get out of the 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.279 rest of this season? And job number one was k one? 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.480 Was Kyler Murray? Well, now that he has this season 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.880 and he knee injury, dare I say the job that 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.600 Cardinals need to do first and foremost is to get 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.759 rid of the word self inflicted. Just eliminate that from 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:58.880 their vocabulary, because it's been persistent throughout the season, Cardinals 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.000 beating Cardinals, and that's what Cliff Kingsbury was lamenting there 0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.080 after the game. Courtesy of Hard Knocks. Yeah, Paully, you 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.160 know what, I really enjoyed that part of it, minus 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:14.280 the profanity, of course. I mean just saying right now, Cliff, 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:20.319 I thought was as assertive and resolute as I've seen 0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.080 him in front of the team at all. I don't 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.520 know about you, Paully, if you were impressed as well, 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.880 but you know, just yeah, just the way he was 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.879 speaking right there. This is this is a little bit 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.920 of a window that the Arizona Cardinals have got a crack, 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.279 and Cliff Kingsbury has got to look through. Right now. 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.719 This is what it's got to be like next year. 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.360 I think, more than anything else, you've got to surround 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.240 Cliff Kingsbury with a bunch of guys that are dogs 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.120 inside the locker room. I think to some degree they 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.600 have already done that, but I think you've got to 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.720 hold them to a higher standard. He's got to become 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.279 the alpha mel In my opinion, that doesn't mean he's 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.239 got to be screaming at guys. It doesn't mean he's 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.279 got to be yelling at guys or threatening guys or 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:10.680 being anybody that he isn't. He's just got to be resolute, 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:14.160 I think, for the most part, going forward and demanding 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.400 that you do your job. And if you don't do 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.960 your job, maybe you're not going to be here. Do 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.239 the Ears of the Cardinals have an accountability problem in 0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:29.040 your opinion, because we've heard it from Buddha Baker courtesy 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.400 a hard Knox after the Eagles game. We've heard it 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.160 at different times, even in the offseason. Wolf. In fact, 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.040 what's ironical, if you will, as I make up a word, 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.680 is that hard Knox was brought in why to add 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.160 an extra layer of accountability. Yeah, and so now we 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:50.520 see late in the season that it's obviously still an issue. 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.880 I mean, it is something that still needs to be addressed. Obviously, 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.560 I think, PAULI they will. But once again, I also 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.840 look at this situation and I know nobody wants to 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.360 hear this. They don't and nobody wants to hear it. 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.320 They look at it and they say it's an excuse, 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.120 and I understand that you never want to look for 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.280 an excuse, But when you have the rash of injuries 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.359 that the Arizona Cardinals have had, and I'm not talking 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.040 about Kyler Murray, Okay, I'm not talking about that Kyler 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.560 Murray played. He had five games remaining before he blew 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.399 his knee out. I'm talking about everybody else around him. 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.040 To a point where your offensive line, eighty percent of 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:37.040 your offensive line is out gone and has been for weeks. 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.720 Dare I say months that right there, Polly, Once again, 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.320 all bets are off. At that point in time. You 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.800 could have the most talent in the world at the 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.960 skill position. You really could. Yeah, you could have the 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.000 most talented wide receiver. But if you can't protect your quarterback, 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.839 if you can't give him a reasonable amount of time 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.560 for him to act, actually go through his progressions and 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:06.120 find an open receiver, it doesn't really matter who you 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.000 have out there at wide receiver unless you're going to 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.120 go ahead and one, two, three and get the ball 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.399 out every time. Now, that may work for one game, 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.400 but two games in a row with a defensive coordinator, 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.080 that's not going to cut it. Paul it just won't. 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.560 At some point in time. NFL defenses are going to 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.839 catch up with you. The entire situation this year has 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.120 just been a mess for the Cardinals. Yeah, and then 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.080 think about it. They had three big plays are eliminated 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.279 by a couple of illegal shifts and offensive pass interference 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.719 you know in aj Green going out of bounds coming 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.120 back in. These are the sort of mistakes and it's 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.279 what Colt McCoy was talking about to the media. The 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.719 penalties crushed us right and their self inflicted wounds, and 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.440 you know, we've talked about them kind of all year 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.160 at certain times, and they just they bid us on 0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.759 Monday night. And so just I think have a really 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.399 point of emphasis on some of the things that we're 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.920 trying to do with some of the motions and shifts, 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.040 like just being very detailed, no presnap penalties, and that 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.880 will give us a chance, you know, the self inflicted 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:17.880 wounds Polly too. Once again, when you're playing an awful 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:22.280 lot of backups in your lineup, they're backups for a reason. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.080 I was a backup, Polly, Okay, I'm just telling you there, 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.240 you're a backup for a reason, and sometimes it's because mentally, 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.080 you have a tendency of making mistakes. Now, this has 0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:38.399 been something that the Cardinals have dealt with all season long, 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.880 and it's not just backups who make it. We also 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.080 saw d hop Right and DeAndre Hopkins. We also we 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.480 saw him and Hollywood moving at the same time. You 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.960 can't do that. But those self inflicted wounds that Colt 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.960 is talking about, that has been I would say, the 0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:01.520 most prevalent, consistent thing we've seen from the offense in 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.680 the second half of the season. And it's been whackable. 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.120 We've talked about it, right, It's been different guys at 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:12.640 different times making different mistakes and so it's hard to identify. 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.960 And honestly, the release of a Trey von Mullen, I 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:22.480 wonder if that somehow relates to accountability, because there's one 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.840 way to motivate and get everyone's attention, and that is 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.839 with job security. So I truly wonder about that. We'll see, 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.840 we'll see what it looks like in Denver. Obviously, Cliff 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.560 had a message to send after the loss against the 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.360 Patriots on Monday Night Special Thanks as always, Jim Amhondro, 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.520 Cody Fincher Special thanks to Cam Thomas Right our extra 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.040 special guests tonight and how we actually put up two 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.839 Christmas trees in the outside Linebackers meeting room there at 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.360 the Cardinals HQ. For on We'll play on Paul Calvic. 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.640 This has been the Big Red Rage presented by santan 0:44:54.800 --> 0:45:07.839 Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford number one. You've 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:12.200 been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:17.120 in Guildall. 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