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Speaker 1: I'm checking it twice for Santa. You're never too old

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Speaker 1: Is it possible to summarize, just capitualize what have you

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Speaker 1: in Gilbert Cameron Thomas, who was the first San Diego

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Speaker 1: would be comfortable at all those positions. However, you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel really happy I'm in the spot now, you know,

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Speaker 1: being a stand up backer. Um, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: you know, I always I never would have thought I

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Speaker 1: would have ever said that, you know, I thought I

428
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Speaker 1: was always gonna be a traditional hand of the dirt

429
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Speaker 1: type of guy. But you know, being able to kind

430
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Speaker 1: of get best in both worlds. I do really enjoy

431
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Speaker 1: standing up on the edge because wol if you remember

432
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Speaker 1: Zach Allen after his rookie year, right, he went into

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Speaker 1: a real rigorous offseason regiment and he put on weight

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Speaker 1: and strength and size. I could see you maybe doing

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Speaker 1: that following that, Zach Allen, But no that you don't

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Speaker 1: envision that as your off season, you know, obviously, you know,

437
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Speaker 1: whatever the team wanted to do with me if they

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Speaker 1: did want to put me inside, Um, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: something we could definitely talk about doing. But um yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I if I was to have a preference, I'd

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Speaker 1: be pretty happy where I'm at now. Oh I love

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Speaker 1: that Cam's the stand up. It's some more edge correct. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think would you have to drop

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Speaker 1: some weight? Do you think you'd have to drop weight

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Speaker 1: or do you like your right your weight right where

446
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Speaker 1: you are now? Yeah? You know, I've actually dropped a

447
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Speaker 1: decent amount of weight since I've been here. I came

448
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Speaker 1: in here around I remember my first way in here

449
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Speaker 1: it was like two sixty nine, although I remember like

450
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Speaker 1: just not drinking any water prior to that way, and

451
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Speaker 1: I was the closer to like two seventy three. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, right now I'm sitting anywhere from like fifty

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Speaker 1: eight to two sixty and you know, I feel really

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Speaker 1: comfortable in that in that range, and um, yeah, I

455
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Speaker 1: feel like I didn't lose really any strength or any

456
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Speaker 1: power and just gained some speed off it. So god. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well here's your defensive coordinator earlier today, just on the

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Speaker 1: progress you have made during your rookie season, Cam, with

459
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Speaker 1: more turns, you know, we'll get more sacks. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just playing with a lead, you know, and having

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Speaker 1: more chances to rush freely. You know, that's that's been

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Speaker 1: our problem. But Cam's a guy who can win one

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Speaker 1: on one rushes. I mean he's he's played awful lot

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Speaker 1: in the last month. He's won a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: but he needs more turns, you know, with a fair

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Speaker 1: game and a lead. Yeah, think about that, right, Like

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Speaker 1: last week, look at New England. They had two sacks

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Speaker 1: in the first three quarters, they get a two score lead,

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Speaker 1: and then they had four or sacks in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of the way it works, right because now

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Speaker 1: you can just rush with abandon right, Yeah, exactly. You know, UM,

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Speaker 1: give your your defensive freedom, you know when there when

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Speaker 1: the offense has it through the ball down to feel

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Speaker 1: like that, um, you know, when they're down. You know,

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Speaker 1: it definitely creates a lot more opportunities for a defense

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Speaker 1: to make this place. And you know, Cam, we want

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Speaker 1: you to look forward obviously, this beautiful part of the

478
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Speaker 1: program here, we want you to look forward to down

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Speaker 1: the road. Um, where do you think you can actually

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Speaker 1: make the biggest strides next year? Is it? Is it

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Speaker 1: as the n edge rusher and your techniques? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it against the run? Where do you think you

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Speaker 1: can actually take your biggest strides. Yeah, there's definitely a

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Speaker 1: lot of aspects. You know, I still got to grow

485
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Speaker 1: at um, you know something for me, I think I

486
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Speaker 1: could definitely just take that next step, the next jump

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Speaker 1: in the run game and just lock it down. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously I have some I have some good players, have

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Speaker 1: some bad places, but just the consistency, I'd say in

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Speaker 1: the run game, who would be something that could really

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Speaker 1: take me to that next level. And obviously you know

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Speaker 1: in the past game, you know, I could definitely there's

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Speaker 1: definitely a lot of area of improvement there. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure as um, the more I play,

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Speaker 1: the more comfortable I'll get. So what do you expect

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Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos. What do they do well? And

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Speaker 1: what what do you know so far about what's going

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Speaker 1: to be most important on Sunday? Yeah, so just watching

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Speaker 1: from whyviously, the Denver Broncos, whatever the media has portrayed

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Speaker 1: them so far is not what they'll click on film.

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Speaker 1: I think they are a very good team and you know, Um,

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Speaker 1: whether Russell plays or not, he's a very talented player. Um.

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Speaker 1: He could rip the ball down the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: he could run out of the pocket, and he is

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Speaker 1: a difference maker in games. Um. So I mean between

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Speaker 1: that and you know, stopping the run, Um, you know

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Speaker 1: there they are a good opponent. If in fact, Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson plays, I question whether or not he will. But

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Speaker 1: if he does, Um, what would it mean to wax

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Speaker 1: is back? I mean with that, with that kind of

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Speaker 1: geek you out a little bit. I would imagine you've

512
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Speaker 1: been watching him as a kid for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. You know, there's I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: edge rushers when they come into the league. There's always

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys they kind of have at the

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Speaker 1: top of the list. Everybody's on the list, but there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are just sitting out. There's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more and I would I would put

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Speaker 1: him up there. Um. Yeah, you know, I remember my

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Speaker 1: first draft of Arizona. I was like super fresh, like

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Speaker 1: within the hour of getting drafted, you know, I was

522
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Speaker 1: kind of like looking things up on the team, how

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Speaker 1: to put up the roster this than that, obviously, I

524
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Speaker 1: know Seattle was in the conference and I was bummed out.

525
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Speaker 1: I was like, dang, he just got traded, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have the opportunity. And then the schedule

527
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Speaker 1: comes out a couple of weeks later and there he is,

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Speaker 1: so um, you know, I hope he plays and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it works out well. Wolf. You

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Speaker 1: remember we had my j Sanders in here. I think

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Speaker 1: it was in May. It was, you know, fresh out

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Speaker 1: of the draft. And I didn't even finish the question.

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Speaker 1: I said, my Jay, which NFL quarterback do you want

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Speaker 1: to sack the most? He jumped the question. It said

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady Immediately he said Tom Brady, how about you? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady. I think he's up there and

537
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Speaker 1: too well everybody list, I mean, how how could he

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Speaker 1: not be? That would that'd be a merry Christmas right there,

539
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Speaker 1: if in fact you were able to get that. Um.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Denver Broncos, describe their offense

541
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Speaker 1: for me if you could. I you know, from your

542
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Speaker 1: perspective right now, are they trying to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're a power rushing team? Do you do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do they like to use play go ahead

545
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Speaker 1: and describe the Denver Broncos what you see on tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do pass the ball, you know, it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than they do run it. I mean when

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Speaker 1: they do run the ball, they like to you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like use variation of zone plays. Um, they'll use

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Speaker 1: slashers you know here and there and um yeah, then

551
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: they'll obviously they'll pass the ball. So, um, we gotta

552
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Speaker 1: we have to be ready. I mean they got hot

553
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Speaker 1: against Kansas City. They're down twenty seven nothing, they lost

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Speaker 1: thirty four twenty eight. Yeah. They put a lot of

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Speaker 1: yards and a lot of points on the scoreboard in

556
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Speaker 1: our hurry last week, didn't they? Oh yeah absolutely Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like like I said, you know what they look like.

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00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm um, film from what you know, from what I've

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Speaker 1: heard going into this game, they do not correlate to me,

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Speaker 1: like I really, Um, do you give the Broncos a

561
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: ton of credit? Cam? Did you have any goals coming

562
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Speaker 1: into this season? My biggest goal is to have fun,

563
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Speaker 1: to make plays. Um, so good one. Yeah. How about

564
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: rookie duties? You know, Trey McBride said earlier today that

565
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Speaker 1: he still has rookie duties that Max Williams made him

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Speaker 1: decorate the tight end room for Christmas. Oh yeah, we

567
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: got we got two trees in our room actually, so

568
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: not trying to make it a competition at all, but

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Speaker 1: you know we do have that. We got the whites,

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Speaker 1: We have the stockings, U should we had a reef

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Speaker 1: and snacks. Do you have to get snacks and stuff

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00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: for the guys still too? Oh yeah, we got some

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Speaker 1: snacks two days ago or a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Hit Costco got the Celsia strengths. Load him in the fridge,

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Speaker 1: you know. And of course every Saturday we gotta get

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Speaker 1: donuts for the groups. So yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wolf

577
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: still getting my drinks around here. That's the way I work.

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Speaker 1: So Cameron, thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. Guys. We continue with a big red rage

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Speaker 1: presented by Santan four in Gilbert play fake Murray setting

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Speaker 1: up looking deep that takes off running the right at

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Speaker 1: the thirty five, at the forty and dives to about

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Speaker 1: the forty four yard line, a gain of three for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and and I'm injured Cardinal. It's Tyler who

585
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: went down very awkwardly that time as he tried to

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Speaker 1: cut Oh no, non contact. He cut right, then tried

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00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: to cut left and just buckle, and there was a

588
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Patriot player right there who called to the Cardinals sideline

589
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: to bring on the training staff. It looked like when

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00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: he went to the ground the injury had already happened.

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00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: He was in pain, his head started to come back,

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Speaker 1: and he just went to the ground. Oh boy, we

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00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: got to one. We got the one. We got a

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Speaker 1: roupree boards and poker, we got a roupup books, we

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Speaker 1: got some brothers. Now, let's go regroup and get one

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Speaker 1: for one. Let's go, everybody, regroup, get one for one.

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00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Let's go. That's JJ Watt right there. That was from

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in NFL films. As several players were miked up.

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00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Almost all the players were around Kyler Murray when he

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Speaker 1: went down, and just like that, three plays into the game,

601
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had to go with Plan B. Colt McCoy

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Speaker 1: and it will be Plan B the rest of this

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Speaker 1: season and then unknown into the off season, sort of

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Speaker 1: like we're going Plan B right now. Technically, Ron Wopley

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00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: is yours truly with an issue on the line, so

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Speaker 1: we've got to go with an alternate game plan here.

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Speaker 1: Paul calvc Ron Wopley The Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford props to

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Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas, and we'll talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas and what he had to say. But first

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on loss. Forget the game, and it's much

612
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: worse when you lose your franchise quarterback to a season

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Speaker 1: ending knee injury torn ACL non contact on the third

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Speaker 1: play of the game. As we're just hurt, Yeah, Paula.

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Speaker 1: Really is a just a horrible situation that has happened

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Speaker 1: with the Orizinal Cardinals. Right now, we all know the

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Speaker 1: kind of season that they've had, we all know the

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Speaker 1: many distractions that they've had. This just seems like an

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Speaker 1: exclamation point on the entire season. And to see your

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback Kyler Murray go down on play number three

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Speaker 1: of this game, another non contact injury. We've seen it

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Speaker 1: all over the National Football League this year, of course,

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Speaker 1: with a Cardinals non contact and now all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you see Kyler Murray go down. It's a horrible

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Speaker 1: occurrence for Kyler Murray. Yet at the same time I

626
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Speaker 1: have to wonder if it gives him an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: reflect as to where he's been and where he wants

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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, he was emotional. We all saw it.

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Speaker 1: It was on Monday Night football. He was on the

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Speaker 1: card the towel was on his head. He took the

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Speaker 1: towel off. He acknowledged the crowd or some tears maybe

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Speaker 1: even in his eyes as they were carting him off.

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00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Matthew Judan knew it right away. I was on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: You could see Judan immediately signaling to the Cardinals sideline.

635
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: And then after the game, Colt McCoy, who finished the

636
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: game and as your QB one the rest of this season,

637
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: shared with the media this week about how he left

638
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: the stadium and he went right over to Kyler's house. Yeah,

639
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: touched Kyler. Bunch spent a couple of hours with him

640
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: at his house after the game Monday night. His spirits

641
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: were fine, like he's smiling, but I mean it's an injury,

642
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: and you know we're all upset. He's upset, you know,

643
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: he's frustrated, but his spirits were in a good place

644
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: and he'll attack the rehab. We've got great doctors here

645
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and lots of guys have come back from acl hasn't

646
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: been just fine. So I think he's got full confidence

647
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: in that, and you know, it's part of the game,

648
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a shock and so you know, well,

649
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I'll put arms around him for sure. That is a

650
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: lot of different angles here. Well, what about the game

651
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: that Kyler plays though, because you know, we can talk

652
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: about a Joe Burrow as the most recent example, but

653
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: obviously Kyler is one of the most athletic quarterbacks in

654
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: the league, and his legs are so vital to what

655
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: he does. Is that present a different dynamic, a different

656
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: challenge in this case? Yeah, you know, honestly, I think

657
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: anytime you blow your ACL out you have to worry

658
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: about that in the long term effects that that could have.

659
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: But you're talking about Kyler Murray, who's still so young,

660
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Paully and also too just the way they deal with

661
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: acls today, it's not like back when I was playing

662
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five, when I came into the league.

663
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: Polly nineteen ninety even, I can tell you that if

664
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: you blew your ACL out most of the time, you

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: were never going to be the same. It didn't mean

666
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: you couldn't come back from an ACL you could, but

667
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: most of the time, PAULI, it meant you weren't going

668
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: to be the same guy. That no longer is the

669
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: case anymore. It's not the metaphorical death sentence that it

670
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: once was. For guys that use their athleticism to make plays,

671
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Guys like Kyler Murray, guys like running backs and wide

672
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: receivers and cornerbacks. You can come back from an ACL

673
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: and it be darned near one hundred percent of what

674
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: you were before. Now is that going to be the

675
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: case with Kyler Murray? We don't know. We're going to

676
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. But man, being as young

677
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: as he is, I honestly don't think this is going

678
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: to inhibit him and his career in the near future. Yeah.

679
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I think of a young Tyr Matthew. Remember the end

680
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: of his rookie year, and that was hillacious knee injury.

681
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: It was much worse than a torn a cl and

682
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals medical team did a phenomenal job with that

683
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: surgery in that rehab, and obviously Tyron Matthews had a

684
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Fame career ever since. You know, But

685
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, Paul, that first year back, PAULI, do you

686
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: remember that, Yeah, first year fourteen. It took a while,

687
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: You're right, it did. It took a while for him,

688
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: you know. And everybody's different, man, everybody heals differently. Everybody

689
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: has a different knee, a different reaction. Maybe there was

690
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: more damage done to Tyrone's knee, maybe there wasn't. I

691
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: don't know the specifics of that, but I just know

692
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: that everyone's different. But Tyrone is an excellent example to

693
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: a guy that came back and yet it took him

694
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: a year to look like himself. Yeah, yeah, no question

695
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: and so, and it just presents so much uncertainty. Obviously

696
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: in the off season, are you actually gonna invest assets

697
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: into another quarterback? Is this Colton McCoy show, maybe even

698
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: through a considerable part of next year. So those are

699
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: just huge offseason questions. As for the final four games,

700
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: and especially what you're looking at in Denver, I mean, Wolf,

701
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that this team trusts Colt McCoy, Right,

702
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: he's decisive, Yes, either's you knows. As hollowand Brown told

703
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: us yesterday, there isn't a single coverage or scheme he

704
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: hasn't seen before. So if nothing else, you come in

705
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who really is almost like a player

706
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: coach in so many ways. Yeah, no, he really is

707
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: listening for the next four games. Colton McCoy, this is

708
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: one of the best backups in the league to me

709
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: right now for this situation, this offense Kyler Murray. Of course,

710
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: for Colton McCoy to be a backup, he has already

711
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: proven his value and his worth to this team. It's

712
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the Cardinals went ahead and

713
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: extended him, signed him to a two year contract. So

714
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: he's under contract going into next year. He's not only

715
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: going to finish this year. I think they're okay going

716
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: into next year with Colton McCoy. Now, PAULI, what does

717
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: that mean? What does that look like? Do they bring

718
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: another veteran in? Is that a possibility bring another guy

719
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: in in case something were to happen to Colton McCoy.

720
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Do they bring another veteran in to compete with Colton McCoy.

721
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't know those answers. I just know and you

722
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: know this as well. Cliff Kingsbury and the Arizona Cardinals

723
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: are very very comfortable with Colton McCoy as their quarterback.

724
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. I think it just heightens

725
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: the importance of improving everything else around Colt McCoy this offseason.

726
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Why are the Niners still winning with a third string

727
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: quarterback because they have great We have great offensive line

728
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: and defensive line right the number one defense in the league.

729
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: They have a great running game, and they have the

730
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: ability to just throw the ball short guys make you know,

731
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: defenders miss in all the yack yards you It is

732
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: imperative that you build it up around Cole McCoy, starting

733
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: with his Denver game, that you don't get behind by

734
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: Q scores so you can stay balanced and have a

735
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: run game. Yeah, Paulie, no doubt about it. We're all

736
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: gonna have a front row seats, So hold on. And

737
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: Cole McCoy, by the way, you know, look, he was

738
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: one quarterback in the first three quarters and then that

739
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: final quarter of Monday Night Football when he got sacked

740
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: four times as a defense in New England was just

741
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: team off on him. So he got to stay in

742
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: the game, and you got to continue to run James

743
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Conner and open up the passing game. As we continue

744
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: with a big red rage present of by San tan

745
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford. We'll be back

746
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: right after this. I'll be the first one to say

747
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: I made some calls, all right, but the basic that

748
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: we know how to do it means a lot in

749
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: these games. It's hard, we're coming. It continues to happen.

750
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: It's getting it right in practice. And hold each other accountable,

751
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: all right. Treat you like men. That's how it's going

752
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: to be. That may be a fault of mine, but

753
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat you like men. So we got to

754
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: hold each other accunable somehow the last month because we're

755
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: better than that. Can I understand that? That's it? We're

756
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: better than that And that's all I want to see

757
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: for this group the last month. But your best football

758
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: because I love being around you guys, love ting to

759
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: work every day with you. You practice hard, you fight

760
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: your assi for each other. But we have to do

761
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: it right because we're giving away. That's one thing to

762
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: get beat, it's another thing to beat yourself. And will

763
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: if we talk so much up until that Money Night

764
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: game about what are you gonna get out of the

765
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: rest of this season? And job number one was k one?

766
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Was Kyler Murray? Well, now that he has this season

767
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: and he knee injury, dare I say the job that

768
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to do first and foremost is to get

769
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: rid of the word self inflicted. Just eliminate that from

770
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: their vocabulary, because it's been persistent throughout the season, Cardinals

771
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: beating Cardinals, and that's what Cliff Kingsbury was lamenting there

772
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: after the game. Courtesy of Hard Knocks. Yeah, Paully, you

773
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: know what, I really enjoyed that part of it, minus

774
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: the profanity, of course. I mean just saying right now, Cliff,

775
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I thought was as assertive and resolute as I've seen

776
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: him in front of the team at all. I don't

777
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: know about you, Paully, if you were impressed as well,

778
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: but you know, just yeah, just the way he was

779
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: speaking right there. This is this is a little bit

780
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: of a window that the Arizona Cardinals have got a crack,

781
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: and Cliff Kingsbury has got to look through. Right now.

782
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: This is what it's got to be like next year.

783
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I think, more than anything else, you've got to surround

784
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury with a bunch of guys that are dogs

785
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: inside the locker room. I think to some degree they

786
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: have already done that, but I think you've got to

787
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: hold them to a higher standard. He's got to become

788
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: the alpha mel In my opinion, that doesn't mean he's

789
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: got to be screaming at guys. It doesn't mean he's

790
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: got to be yelling at guys or threatening guys or

791
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: being anybody that he isn't. He's just got to be resolute,

792
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: I think, for the most part, going forward and demanding

793
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: that you do your job. And if you don't do

794
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: your job, maybe you're not going to be here. Do

795
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: the Ears of the Cardinals have an accountability problem in

796
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: your opinion, because we've heard it from Buddha Baker courtesy

797
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: a hard Knox after the Eagles game. We've heard it

798
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: at different times, even in the offseason. Wolf. In fact,

799
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: what's ironical, if you will, as I make up a word,

800
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: is that hard Knox was brought in why to add

801
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: an extra layer of accountability. Yeah, and so now we

802
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: see late in the season that it's obviously still an issue.

803
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it is something that still needs to be addressed. Obviously,

804
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: I think, PAULI they will. But once again, I also

805
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: look at this situation and I know nobody wants to

806
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: hear this. They don't and nobody wants to hear it.

807
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: They look at it and they say it's an excuse,

808
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: and I understand that you never want to look for

809
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: an excuse, But when you have the rash of injuries

810
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: that the Arizona Cardinals have had, and I'm not talking

811
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray, Okay, I'm not talking about that Kyler

812
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: Murray played. He had five games remaining before he blew

813
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: his knee out. I'm talking about everybody else around him.

814
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: To a point where your offensive line, eighty percent of

815
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: your offensive line is out gone and has been for weeks.

816
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: Dare I say months that right there, Polly, Once again,

817
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: all bets are off. At that point in time. You

818
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: could have the most talent in the world at the

819
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: skill position. You really could. Yeah, you could have the

820
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: most talented wide receiver. But if you can't protect your quarterback,

821
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: if you can't give him a reasonable amount of time

822
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: for him to act, actually go through his progressions and

823
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: find an open receiver, it doesn't really matter who you

824
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: have out there at wide receiver unless you're going to

825
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and one, two, three and get the ball

826
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: out every time. Now, that may work for one game,

827
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: but two games in a row with a defensive coordinator,

828
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: that's not going to cut it. Paul it just won't.

829
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: At some point in time. NFL defenses are going to

830
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: catch up with you. The entire situation this year has

831
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: just been a mess for the Cardinals. Yeah, and then

832
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: think about it. They had three big plays are eliminated

833
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: by a couple of illegal shifts and offensive pass interference

834
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: you know in aj Green going out of bounds coming

835
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: back in. These are the sort of mistakes and it's

836
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: what Colt McCoy was talking about to the media. The

837
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: penalties crushed us right and their self inflicted wounds, and

838
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about them kind of all year

839
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: at certain times, and they just they bid us on

840
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Monday night. And so just I think have a really

841
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: point of emphasis on some of the things that we're

842
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: trying to do with some of the motions and shifts,

843
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: like just being very detailed, no presnap penalties, and that

844
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: will give us a chance, you know, the self inflicted

845
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: wounds Polly too. Once again, when you're playing an awful

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Speaker 1: I was a backup, Polly, Okay, I'm just telling you there,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it, right, It's been different guys at

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Speaker 1: we'll see what it looks like in Denver. Obviously, Cliff

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