1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: The volume, What is going on? My people? How are 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: we doing? What has happened in John Middlecoff three and 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: out podcast Beautiful Day here Hot Day. Actually just got 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: back to Arizona from northern California, played a little golf 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: in Napa instead of watching rounds four through seven. But 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, didn't miss much. What I did do though, 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: is Colin and I did a podcast after the first 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: round came out on Friday. Then I did a podcast 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: after the second round right as the third round was 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: starting on Friday night came out. This weekend, I thought 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I would put together a little draft podcast of just 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: five things that you know, intrigue me after this weekend 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and kind of heading in now that we head to 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: OTAs you know, there'll still be some player movement for 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: the most part, though we kind of got an idea 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: some of the big moves that happened over the weekend 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: and just moving forward things I'm interested in. So that's 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: what I did today. I picked five things, ratted it 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: off after the draft and yeah, so listen download the 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Amazon amp app our stuffs on their podcast is on 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: there live every single day. YouTube channel, Volume YouTube channel, 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: check it out the Volume merch Store if you go 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: to the Volume dot com. Got some Go Lo hats, 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: some Go Lo polos, check that out. A lot of 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: football content coming So I have a podcast. We'll have 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts coming up. So buckle up. You 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: know football offseason, Baby OTA's mini camps, rookie mini camps. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: That's a fun one. It's cool actually if you've got 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But if you don't, it's not. But other 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: than that, a lot going on. Middlecoff mailbag. We will 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: bust that bad boy out on Tuesday. So at John 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Middlecoff is my Instagram DM's wide open fire in those dms. 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Get your question here on the show and let's talk 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: some football. I actually got a text this morning. Did today. 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm recording this on Sunday. And when I got the text, 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: it was before Game seven in Sacramento, and they said, John, 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: I want to go to the game. What's your promo 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: code again? 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So download 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: the game Time app, fastest growing ticket app in America, 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the official ticketing app of this podcast, and use the 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: promo code. John. I love saving you guys money these 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: inflationary times. We do everything humanly possible to throw people 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: we can a bone, and those that listen to this 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: show use that promo code, and we appreciate everyone it has. 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Here's what I wanted to do. The draft happens, and 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: everyone's got a lot of you know, draft grades, and 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: which is really just based on your own opinions of 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the player. I'm not gonna do that. What I did 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: is I picked five things that fire me up and 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: interest me the most after the draft based on what 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: happened these last three days and a lot of takes 61 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: flying a lot of different teams. I think it's hard 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: to differentiate because a lot of times the good teams 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: they're drafting at the end of everywhere round, they're not 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: taking the most famous players. In the draft, Like no 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: one was like, oh, Kansas City's draft last year, right, 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and then the season happened, You're like Isaiah Pajaco, all 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: those late round DB's playing. So and it's I say 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: it every year, and I've been going to these training 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: camps and o tas forever. It's hard to put much 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: stock in the third day in terms of like this 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: guy's going to be a really good player, because every 72 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: single year I go to these practices and see fourth 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and fifth round players get beat out by undrafted free 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: agents or unable to beat out the veteran practice squad 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: guys that are already on the team. So when you 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: are drafted in the first couple of days, because of 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: your contract, you're making the team. That's just the reality 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: of the business that is the NFL and the way 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: these contracts are structured. When you get drafted in the 80 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: fourth round on, there ain't any guarantee. Now, for the 81 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: most part, you're typically going to be on practice squads. 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: But like we don't talk about practice squad guys starting 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: in September, right, talk about NFL players. Now they're technically 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: on an NFL roster, but they don't actually play in 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: the games. So I'm going to focus on some of 86 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the headliners, some of the headlighting teams, and uh. I 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: wanted to start with this the Houston Texans because I've 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: seen a lot of reaction. I don't know if me 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: and Colin got that deep into it on Friday. I 90 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: don't even know if I talked about it that much 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: on the Saturday podcast, which you could obviously catch. Me 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: and Colin went live after the first round. I recorded 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: something after the second round, so the third round was 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: still going on. That came out this weekend, and obviously 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the draft is done now, so I want to start 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: with the Texans who traded up. They take c J. 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Stroud at two, who most of us because of just 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: we just thought he was gonna tumble, because that's what 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: the media kept telling us, and they played the media 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: like a fiddle. The lies on c J. Stroud were immense. 101 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: It's weird because a lot of people, I think the 102 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: consensus in the league and outside of the league is like, 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, he could be like a better version of 104 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. And when you say that, you know, typically 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: obviously Jared Goff was the number one overall pick, but 106 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: based off what we know now and he's really resurrected 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: his career in Detroit. You know, I think you'd be 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: looking for a little bit more when you draft really high. 109 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: But I think the stories around them is, why would 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: you trade back up for an edge rusher and give 111 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: up what they gave up? Right, they went from twelve 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: to three, They give up the second round pick, they 113 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: gave up next year's first round pick, which fair or 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of people just think they're gonna suck again. 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that, Like, I'm not viewing them 116 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: as a playoff team, but I if I was a 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: betting man, i'd view them more likely to win, you know, 118 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: somewhere like six games than two or three games. But 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: they traded up to get will Anderson, and I've seen 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: a lot of smart football people say you can't view 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: it like they traded up to get will Anderson. They 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: traded up to get the package of CJ. Stroud and 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: Will Anderson because they couldn't take Will Anderson too and 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: risk someone else trading up and giving more than they 125 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: were willing to and taking c J. Stroud, which they knew. 126 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans loved them, and I think, you know, 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: depending on who you believe. I think the Raiders were 128 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: very very interesting in CJ. Stroud as well. And one 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: of the things Arizona had clearly let it be known 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: not only were they open for business, but if anyone 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: was going to trade with them, it was going to 132 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: because one of the quarterbacks they liked did not go 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: one or two. So I completely understand the Texans doing 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: what they did. It was really about getting the package 135 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: of players. Did you give up a lot? You did? 136 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: But I got my favorite quarterback in the draft, I 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: guess more than likely their second favorite quarterback and the 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: best pass rusher that we viewed it. And anytime you 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: get the two most important positions, I got no problem 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: allocating resources now now separate from the resources they allocated 141 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: to get a hold of those players and not risk 142 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: losing the quarterback. That there's just a barometer and a 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: baseline of minimum performance moving forward. Like if CJ. Stroud 144 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: is a top seven eight quarterback in the league, it 145 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if Will Anderson actually is overrated and never 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: makes Pro Bowls, and you go, we gave up all 147 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: that for Will Anderson. No one will care. As a 148 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: wise man told me a couple of years ago. We 149 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: can draft all the sweetest players every single year, and 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: the Jets have. If Zach Wilson stinks were screwed. Now 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: they got lucky because Aaron Rodgers poked his head through 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: that door right to kind of save their careers. But 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was going to get everyone fired. It didn't 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: matter that they had hit on basically every other pick. 155 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: So when you hit on the quarterback, it doesn't matter 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: your other players. Even if Will Anderson becomes Solomon Thomas 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: or a Cleveland Ferrell, right, he does not have to 158 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: be Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa or Miles Garrett. If CJ. 159 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Stroud is awesome, because that's what will matter the most. 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Now it's not ideal, but if CJ. Stroud to me 161 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: is like closer to Dak Cousins, the Jimmy Garoppolo Jared 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Gobbs of the world, will Anderson better be pretty solid 163 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: because if he's not, it's an utter disaster. Right, he 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: can be her cousins if Will Anderson's an impact Pro 165 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: Bowl player, and then you feel pretty good about it, right, 166 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: And that's kind of to me the worst case scenario, 167 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: or else it's just a disaster. Now, I think Dimiko's 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: a stud. I've watched Demiko really since he was a player. 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Everything Demiko has done in his career professionally once he 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: left Alabama has been successful. Player, quality control, code, position coach, 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I'm not betting against the Miko. I think 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: he's going to be really good, and I do think 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: he's one of the things he hangs his hat on 174 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: as character being a teammate. So he's not coming in 175 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: and telling you everyone who designed right, Like I'm not 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: faulting Sean Payton for doing this, but Sean Payton's taking 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: orders from nobody. When Sean Payton wants a player, when 178 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton wants to sign a free agent, or Sean 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: Payton wanted anyone in the draft, Sean Payton got that. 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: He was a decision maker. He didn't give a shit 181 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: what anyone else in the room thought right, And I'm 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: not saying that that's what happened. I'm just saying Sean 183 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Payton was at the top of the food chart. I 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: think Demko is tried to work with trying to be 185 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: a good guy, work with the operation, Listen to the 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: scouting stamp. Right. I'm a little surprised. They kind of 187 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: put a lot of their chips in the middle. Not 188 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: that Nick did it, because Nick the team hasn't been 189 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: good now for a couple of years. They've kind of waited, 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: like it's been really really ugly and he need to 191 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: get some momentum going. But you know, it is a 192 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: little stunning would be too strong, but I thought it 193 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: was eye opening that they put so many chips in 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the table. Now, if it works, who cares. 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: It does not matter, right, But anytime that you draft 196 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback, especially when you're a you know, first year coach, 197 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: your clock kind of starts. Right. It's why sometimes you 198 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: just take the incumbent or you assign some random free 199 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: agent and you just kind of get a year to 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: breathe and then you figure it out. Now, you could 201 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: argue they've been so shitty that no one wants to 202 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: watch that again, But that's not Demko's problem. That's that's 203 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: the previous coaches problem. And it's gonna be fascinating how 204 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: this shakes out, because I think CJ. Stroud was just 205 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: your classic. You know, the media was being played by 206 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the GMS. We all thought that the league thought he 207 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: sucked and that just wasn't the case. Now, I know 208 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: people in the league they didn't like him that much, 209 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and I know other people that thought he was solid. 210 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: So it's just like like most prospects, you could text 211 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: five people, two might like, two might not like, and 212 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: one guy's kind of indifferent. He's like, mah, that's that's personnel, 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: that's scouting, that's coaching. We all evaluate players differently. You 214 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: and I can watch a game in any sport and 215 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: come away with different takes on what we just witnessed. 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Is what makes this whole thing fun. It's a very 217 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: subjective business. But they did allocate a lot of resources 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: for a team that still has a lot of resources 219 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: because of the Browns, So they would have definitely been equipped. 220 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: And as we saw this year, you never know what's 221 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: going to happen a year to year, right Listen. I 222 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: don't know if we you might have disagreed with me, 223 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: but I thought the Giants in Seattle would draft one 224 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: and two right or in the mix, like they'd be 225 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: drafting in the top five. Both made the playoffs. So 226 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the NFL is a unique business that way, where you 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: can I mean, that's the best case scenario where you 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: can go from awful to boom in the playoffs, but 229 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: you can go from awful to seven wins really really quick. 230 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Look at the Lions last year. They went from joke 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: two years ago to you know, nine to eight and 232 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: right there in the playoffs mix they didn't make it. 233 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of GMS on the hot seat, it's not totally 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: his fault because he took over a job that had 235 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. He hired Josh McDaniels, which, let's face it 236 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: doesn't look like a good hire now Josh backed out 237 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: on him. That wasn't his fault. But in fairness to Ballard, 238 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: when he hired Josh McDaniels, every team in the league 239 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: for like three years was trying to hire Josh McDaniels. 240 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch 241 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: because Josh McDaniels told them no. So the Chris Ballard 242 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: and the Indianapolis Colts weren't the first, and as we 243 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: saw with the Raiders, they surely weren't the last that 244 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: were willing to give Josh McDaniels a ton of jews 245 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: to be the head coach of the team. But I 246 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: do think for a guy and listen. I think Chris 247 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: Ballard's good at his job. I think over the years 248 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: he has put together a very very competitive roster. And 249 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I thought once the Josh thing happened, he pivoted really 250 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: really well into Frank, who immediately got another job. Has 251 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: proven to be pretty impressive. Right. I mean, we'll see 252 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: how he does in Carolina. But it's not like Frank. Right. 253 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: The guy that hired once Josh left him at the 254 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Altar was like Freddie Kitchens, right. I mean he did 255 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: he hired a solid coach who at the end kind 256 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: of flamed out, but you know, was very, very respectable 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: during his time as the head coach. But you can 258 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: only go through so many quarterbacks, and most general managers 259 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: only get a second coach, right, Sometimes coaches get multiple opportunities, 260 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: they keep bouncing around, they keep making a ton of money. 261 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Usually gms don't get a second rodeo. So if Chris 262 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,359 Speaker 1: Ballard and this thing fails, this might be his one shot. 263 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: And it feels like because he just drafted a guy 264 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: number four. Overall, they're all in on Anthony Richardson either 265 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: saving this guy's job and Chris Ballard looked like a 266 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: genius or this thing's gonna come crumbling down, and in 267 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years, the Indianapolis culture gonna blow the 268 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: whole thing up again. And they're basically just riding it 269 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: all on. Not just Anthony Richardson, but can Shane Stiken 270 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: do what he did with Jalen Hurts And I don't 271 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: even mean it that left. You know, like Jalen easily 272 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: could have won the MVP this year if he didn't 273 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: get injured he bawled out in the Super Bowl. I mean, 274 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: he was easily one of the best players in the league. 275 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: If he can just do seventy five to eighty percent 276 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: of that in the next couple of years of Anthony 277 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Richardson culture gonna be fine. But when you just look 278 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: at NFL history and listen, I like most human beings. 279 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean maybe some aren't, but I'm very intrigued by 280 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: guys with have incredible athletic attributes that are also really 281 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: good guys like I would bet on those people consistently, 282 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: but history would show us at quarterback, it's way more 283 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: misses than hiss quarterback, Like the amount of linemen, the 284 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: amount of linebackers, the amount of wide receivers, guys that 285 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: you're able to mold into functional players is plentiful. Quarterbacks 286 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: is such a nuanced position that there are things that 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you just it's impossible to quantify, right, just like how 288 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: he he reads changing defenses, like throughout a series, how 289 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: you're able to adapt from one series B zone one 290 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: series B. Man demand, different coordinators, different blitz packages, different 291 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: you audibling on the It just it's a lot going on, clearly. 292 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean this is you don't need me to talk 293 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: about this to understand that if you fall football, we 294 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: all acknowledge the how difficult it is. Not just obviously 295 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: you got to have the god given ability, but then 296 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: be a good quarterback. Like, there's so many variables that 297 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: come into play, and it turned out Jalen had a 298 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: lot of them that equated to kind of just becoming 299 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: really really successful. And from everything I've heard, Anthony Richson 300 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: has that too. The difference is Jalen had less far 301 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: to go, you know when Jalen came to the Eagles, 302 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and obviously his draft position reflected that, going in the 303 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: second round, even though he was a really raw passer, 304 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: he brought immediate stability of a guy that could just function. 305 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: He started at Alabama forever he had a ton of success 306 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma when all else fails, he was an elite runner. 307 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Now in theory, Anthony Richinson is an elite runner, but 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: game in, game out, he hasn't proven to be able 309 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: to do that. And I just think that this thing's 310 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: I just see no middle ground, Like I see some 311 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: middle ground with the Texans if he told me yes, CJ. 312 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Stroud is like, you know, a Dak Prescott level player, 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: and you know, Will Anderson. I don't think anyone views 314 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: him as like a Hall of Fame talent, but he's 315 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: just a really, really good player that they're gonna want 316 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: to extend. Like, yeah, I can totally see that. I 317 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing Anthony Richson, like, you know, 318 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: he never lived up to be a top five quarterback, 319 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: but he's like probably the eleventh best quarterback in the league. 320 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Like I don't see that, you know, just not happening. 321 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: And to me, obviously, as a general manager, you can 322 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: put the team together, but you have nothing to do 323 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: with the coaching of the player. And he's he got 324 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: a second higher in change Stiken, and they're all in 325 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: on this guy attempting to do what they did with 326 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. It's gonna be fascinating to watch it, really is. 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine they'll do everything humanly possible 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: to red shirt the guy. But that's hard. You know, 329 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: it's especially hard when you're coming off an embarrassing season 330 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: where Jeff Saturday was your fucking coach, So like, what 331 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: if you're awful, especially in a division that's not going 332 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: to be great? Are they just going to be cool 333 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: with like, oh, we're just red shirting. We're just red shirting. 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: You know. When it's easy to do when you're like 335 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and you're winning, or definitely the 336 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs and you got Alex Smith having a career year, 337 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: it's hard to do when you're not going to the 338 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: playoffs and you're a six win team. No one wants 339 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: to watch the other quarterback that's not going to be 340 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: on the team, not a soul, not me, not you, 341 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: and definitely not any fan of the team. So public 342 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: pressure usually wins out, even if it means the guy 343 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: is not ready. And again, it was easier for him 344 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: to do it because they were having successful season, but 345 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: it was like a non starter with Andy Reid, like 346 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: we're not playing this guy and they basically got the 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: free game at the end of the season because it 348 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: didn't matter and they could just give Alex Smith the rest, 349 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: but they were not gonna play him. He was on 350 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: a development process and can you stick to that when 351 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: your team sucks? You know, really, I don't know. It's 352 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be very, very intriguing to watch three this 353 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: Packer Jets quarterback situation right the Jordan Love era is 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: starting as of right now. I just I just watched 355 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: the Warrior Kings game. I sat down, I just kind 356 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: of did a little recon before I was gonna fire 357 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: up the podcast. I saw that Matt Lafleur said, we're 358 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: still talking to the representatives about the fifth year option. 359 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: The fifth year option isn't a contract negotiation, right, It's 360 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: either you're picking up the option or not. It's a 361 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: very black and white decision. So as of right now, 362 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna pick it up. I'd 363 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: be stunned if they don't. But if they did not, 364 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: that'd be pretty eye opening. But it's, you know, it's 365 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: very disingenuous. I didn't see Lafour say it. I just 366 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: saw the headline of him basically saying that, you know, 367 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: we're still working through the negotiations or or we're talking 368 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: with his representative. There's no talk either you either pick 369 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: up the thing or you don't. You know, it's Justin 370 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: Jefferson fifth uh, Justin Herbert fifgure out, there's no Well, 371 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: we'd like them. This isn't arbitration, So don't you can't 372 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: say that and listen. I expect them to pick it up. 373 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: But if they don't, whenever my next podcast is after 374 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: that action were to happen, it would probably be the 375 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: lead of the show. That would be pretty it'd be 376 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: pretty insane. But the Jets Quarterbout's start with the Jets. 377 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Rogers press conference. I thought 378 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: he was in a very good headspace because I thought 379 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: it would have been easy and I probably might have 380 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: taken this route. You might have taken this route. Even 381 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: though I try to avoid personally living and hate, but 382 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: we're all human beings and there's we all have a 383 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a pettiness to us and a little 384 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, try to prove people wrong. 385 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: Even though I don't necessarily know why Rogers like I 386 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: think Goodigin's on the floor know that he's really good, 387 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: but the love thing and Rogers, you know, in his 388 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: Instagram post he named all those guys, including Mark Murphy. 389 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Feels like he's just in a very peaceful might be 390 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: a little soft way to say it, but just a 391 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: positive mindset. Feels like he's just in a good spot, 392 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: which is a good thing if you're the Jets. The 393 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: other thing that he mentioned is that he plans on 394 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: being at OTAs, something that he not only didn't attend 395 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Remember a couple of years 396 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: ago in the CBA, him and Tom Brady and I 397 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: completely understand it, understood it. Thought it should just get 398 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: wiped out. Basically they should get six month vacation, and 399 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: anyone worth their salt around the league was like, yeah, 400 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: I understand Aaron and Tom. You don't need OTAs, even 401 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: though it's a little disingenuous for Tom as well, because 402 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: he would fly the boys out to him so they'd 403 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: be doing work when no one else would be. But 404 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, OTAs are really really big 405 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: for I don't know, a large percentage of the league 406 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 1: guys that are on non guaranteed contracts, late round picks, 407 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. You know, it's kind of important to 408 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: be around your bosses in life, to be around people 409 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: that determine your future. You know, anytime, any extra time 410 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: you can get with them matters. And you know, maybe 411 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Rogers has changes too, and because he realized, like I 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: got to be around the guys. And ultimately, of their 413 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: first two picks, right, they only had a first round pick, 414 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: a second round pick. They didn't have a pick to 415 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: the fourth round. Their first pick wasn't edg Rusher, which 416 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: I'll never argue with, and their second pick was a center. 417 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: The one thing that Jets have done a really good 418 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: job of is they have a good team, right. I mean, 419 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: they got some young pieces on the offensive line. We'll 420 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: see Beckden is going to be a major question mark, 421 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: but Garrett Wilson looks like, I mean, I don't know 422 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: a young star. Obviously, you sign Lazard, who Aaron's very 423 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: very comfortable with that, you have Breeze Hall coming back 424 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: their offensive pieces, you lose more. But they did. They 425 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: sign Corey Davis. I mean, they've invested a lot for 426 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: him in the offensive weaponry. So I feel pretty good 427 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: about the Jets, and I feel pretty good about where 428 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Aaron's heads at and as of right now, I mean, 429 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, I would pick them to 430 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'm not picking them to beat up 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: the Bills, but I'll pick them to finish ahead of 432 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I know that I will pick them. Listen, 433 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I picked the Packers last year, so I prepare to 434 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I'm fairly confident the New York Jets 435 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: will be an AFC playoff team. That's saying a lot. 436 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: We'll get to the AFC here in a little bit. 437 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I do think the Packers are very, very fascinating. They 438 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: after taking Van s who is just your classic Packers 439 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: type guy. You know, he didn't start at Iowa though 440 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: he you know, as DJ kept saying on the broadcast, 441 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: he was their best player. He's a high weight speed guy. 442 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: They love high weight speed guys. A lot of them 443 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: have worked out for them over the years. In the draft, 444 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: it looks like Christian Wattson he is going to definitely 445 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: work out based on the second half of the season. 446 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: He is what I would consider a high weight speed guy. 447 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: And when I say that in scouting terms, that means 448 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: a guy that just fits with big time measurables right 449 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: big obviously at fast, so I do think. Then they 450 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: took three offensive weaponry to go around Jordan Love, with which, 451 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: let's face it, they already have AJ Dillon, who's really good. 452 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: They have Aaron Jones. I mean, there are two running 453 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: backs are sweet. The Nevada wide receiver to go along 454 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: with Watson last year, Dobbs and Christian Watson look to 455 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: be really good. They take Luke Musgrave, who is a 456 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: fascinating player out of Oregon State tight end. He got 457 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: injured this year, but he's healthy now. He's a stud 458 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: like that pick. I don't know much about their second 459 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: second round pick, this Michigan State wide receiver, but it 460 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: shows you they invested back to back picks tight end 461 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver. And then they took another tight end out 462 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: of South Dakota State, Jordan Love. They're gonna have a 463 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of young pieces around them. I think you're gonna 464 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: be a fascinating team. I'm not gonna pick them to 465 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, even in a weak NFC, but you know, 466 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: if they hit on some of these players, and Jordan 467 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Love is just a solid quarterback, which I'm gonna bet against, 468 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just am and because history would show 469 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: us like you're just not going you know how crazy, 470 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean, how fucking insane it was to go Joe Montana, 471 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: Steve Young to Jeff Garcia, to Jeff Garcia who multiple 472 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, really really solid player, like that is not 473 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: the way it works. Usually go Peyton Manning Andrew Locke 474 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: to what we've just witnessed the last five years. Right, 475 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: it usually does not work out well. But if it does, 476 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: like I said the other day, Lafour Gudikins, like these 477 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: guys will become legends fast. They start going to the 478 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: playoffs just and having a playoff competitive team with this group, 479 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: It's how Ted Thompson and McCarthy got major extensions and 480 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: made a ton of money in Green Bay. For those 481 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: of you that don't follow the NBA, well, when the 482 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: Warriors got Kevin Durant, their owner Joe Lekobos. You know, 483 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's been pretty successful since he bought 484 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: the team. It's spent about four or five hundred million 485 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: on the team. I just saw his valued about seven billion, 486 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: so you know, pretty goodbye. And since he's owned the team, 487 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: they've won four championships and signed Kevin Durant, but when 488 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: they signed Kevin Durant, he dropped. He dropped a saying 489 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: that stuck around Warriors fans and it goes by the UH, 490 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: goes by light years. He said, we're light years ahead 491 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: of the NBA, which was more of an arrogant comment 492 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: than something that was actually true, because anyone with the 493 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: cap space would have tried to sign Kevin Durant, and 494 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: they got pretty lucky with this capspike. A lot of 495 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: things in Steph Curry was on this cheap deal because 496 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: bad ankles. But regardless, it's one of the greatest the 497 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: statements and lines of all time. It's just funny. I 498 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: laugh at it more than think it's real life, though. 499 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: I think lacub has been an incredible owner for the NBA. 500 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: He's been like the Eddie de Barbelow when I was 501 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: a kid with the forty nine ers version in the NBA. 502 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: I'll spend anything, I'll pay any luxury tax, but we 503 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: got to win chips. It's all about winning titles and 504 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles, but the point was like, yeah, 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: we'll just pay really good players. We're just going after 506 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: the stars like pat Riley has done forever. It's actually 507 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: not that complicated. It's like we're just going after the 508 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: best players. Now in the NBA, you gotta have a 509 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: destination place in football, like they'll take your money. And 510 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: in the draft specifically, I think it's easy to overthink 511 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: yourself and kind of and I think the forty nine 512 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Ers did it several years ago when they took Trey Lance. 513 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: They took this just smaller school guy, like that's not 514 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: usually the way it works out, right, And I think 515 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles, for example, most of the best forty nine 516 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: ers players are come from big program right or big conferences. 517 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel was one of the best players in the SEC. 518 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: George Kittle Iowa, Trant Williams, Oklahoma, you know, Nick Bosa, 519 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Like they're better players come from big programs 520 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: hufunga USC And I think the Eagles and I know 521 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about it with Colin they don't waste 522 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: any time anymore on the little schools or overthinking it 523 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: with the schools the non Power five programs. When you 524 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: look at their draft this year, they took they took 525 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: three players from Georgia. Three obviously their first two picks, 526 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: but they took a corner in the later rounds. And 527 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: they also I think their third round pick was an 528 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Illinois dB who Illinois last year had one of their 529 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: better seasons in recent memory with Bei Lama, and it 530 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: was one of the better defenses in the country. Like 531 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: they are taking Power five programs that are having a 532 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: lot of success. Obviously they have pillaged Georgia and Alabama 533 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: and they're just not messing around with little schools. And 534 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's not a tried and true formula. 535 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: If you only drafted LSU, Alabama and Georgia players, you 536 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: would miss on guys, but you would probably hit on 537 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: way more. And I think the Eagles have really for 538 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: this organization that kind of prides itself on being very 539 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: stat friendly, being very progressive, being ahead of the curve. 540 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: I think they've just taken a basic approach. Let's just 541 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: draft the sweetest players from the sweetest programs and try 542 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to build our team. I don't know around those guys, 543 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: and for the most part, we'll kick the shit out 544 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: of other people. And obviously there has to be luck involved, 545 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: right Jalen Carter had to fall, but I gave them 546 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: credit last week of like they have the pieces on 547 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: their roster. Part of like people, how do you resign 548 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox? Those guys are over the hill? 549 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Well to mentor a guy like this Jalen Carter, who 550 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: could be an All Pro in the NFL. Obviously, you 551 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: need teams to pass on Nolan Smith. And maybe you 552 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: benefited from his injury this year for him falling in 553 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: the draft, But when he was available, you just draft him. 554 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: You don't go, Wow, should we take this tight end 555 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: from South Dakota State or should we take this, you know, 556 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of rotational guy from the you know, Florida Atlantic. 557 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Now you just take the dude from Georgia. You just drafted, Like, 558 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: who's the best defense in the country last year? You 559 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: know it was Michigan, it was Georgia, it was Illinois. 560 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Let's just take one guy from there. And when you 561 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: do that, I think it simplifies some of your misses 562 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's like, oh, we need 563 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: a fast wider. Let's take Jalen Rager. Yeah, should have 564 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: just taken Justin Jefferson. The best team. He was one 565 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: of the best players on that team. And they've done 566 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: that literally ever since. And when you watch them play, 567 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: they have talent everywhere, So credit for the Eagles for 568 00:29:53,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: just simplifying the math, but not least number five. The 569 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: AFC versus the NFC one story that happened. I guess 570 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: this would have been on the first round Lamar signed 571 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: the contract. I think we all acknowledge the AFC South 572 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: is guy. We have three teams that are not gonna 573 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: be very good. The Jags are gonna be solid. They 574 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: should be a playoff team for the foreseeable future, star quarterback, 575 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: star coach. The AFC North now like kind of has 576 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: some stability. Steelers have their young quarterback and they were 577 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: really coming on at the end of the season. I 578 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: think we view that team like they should be in 579 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: the mix to be a wildcard team. There are no 580 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: excuses of like why isn't Lamar playing? He would do 581 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: this if he didn't have a contract. He's not battling 582 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: through injuries. You pay him no excuses. Now it's healthy. 583 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: He plays, even banged up, he plays in big games. 584 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I feel much better about the stability of the Ravens 585 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: and obviously the Bengals, I don't know, are fucking awesome. 586 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: The Bills awesome. Now they need to be better in 587 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but regular season team, they've proven year after 588 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: year after year they're just gonna win that division and 589 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be sweet. Same with the Chiefs. So the 590 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: AFC is just stacked. We know Herbert and the Chargers, 591 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, always underachieve a little bit, but you're talking 592 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 1: ten to eleven win team, the Miami Dolphins, if they 593 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: can just keep Tua erect. I mean, we saw how 594 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: dynamic their offense was and how awesome Mike McDaniel was 595 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator. Listen, say what you want about Belichick, 596 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: like he'll just be feisty. He's not. Even if his 597 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: team's not as talented as it was for a long 598 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: period of time. He's still Bill freaking Belichick. Haven't you 599 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the Jets and Rogers. I mean, the AFC is 600 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: stupid stacked. It's gonna be They're gonna be really good teams, 601 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: just like last year that missed the playoffs. Even with 602 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: this seventh added team, I don't think anything changed in 603 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: the NFC. I think there's three teams that are clearly 604 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: better than the rest of the conference, just like last year, 605 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles, forty nine Ers and the Cowboys, and clearly 606 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles lost the sweet defensive tackle and the forty 607 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: nine ers stolen and then they replaced him with Jalen Carter. 608 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: And you know, they added a pass rusher in Nolan Smith, right, 609 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: and you look at the Cowboys like what was what 610 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: are their problems run defense? Added a sweet defensive tackle 611 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: from Michigan immediately. The forty nine Ers well got some 612 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: questions at quarterback. They signed Sam Darnold and Brock Purty 613 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: expects to be fully healthy, and the roster is already sweet, 614 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: and they have some young players like you know, guys 615 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: they drafted last year, ty Davis Price, the running back 616 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: from LSU, Danny Gray the third round wide receiver who's 617 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: an excellent special team player from from SMU, and I 618 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: It's was a long weekend. The USC pass rusher Drake 619 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Jackson last year who started being inactive toward the end 620 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: of the season. They're very bullish on him big offseason 621 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: so that they should get some young players they drafted 622 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: last year start impacting the team this year. To go 623 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: with hard Grave, those three teams are heading shoulders above 624 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the conference. Minnesota is worse. The Giants 625 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: like they won all those one score games and I 626 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: still think they're a year or two away from having 627 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: like a legitimate roster. We saw what happens when they 628 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: played a really good team. They got curbstonped. Now I'm 629 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: not acting like the Giants won't be in the playoff mix, 630 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: but you know, the Lions Jared Goff just gonna have 631 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: back to back good seasons. How's Dan Campbell gonna do 632 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: with the pressure? Now, the pressure everyone's gonna pick them 633 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: to win the division, myself included, But how Dan Campbell actually, 634 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: like does he get a little tight? It was easy 635 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: to say loose this year. Remember they started off really slow. 636 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: They started winning games when they were I think like 637 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: one and four. What's it like game one? Like, hey man, 638 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: everyone thinks you're gonna be an eleven win team, and 639 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you're in a weird way. Teams are coming after you. 640 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: You ain't sleep walking on anybody. Teams are showing up 641 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: knowing you guys are good. The AFC South, like Tampa 642 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year. Obviously the eight and nine 643 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: they're done. You know, I don't view the Falcons as 644 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: that good. The Saints, in theory should be a lot better, 645 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, because they add Derek Carr did Derek Carr 646 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: just have a bad season because of Josh McDaniels or 647 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: is his career just trending the wrong way, because I 648 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: do believe the saint should win the division, but like 649 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I can't feel confident about betting on a Dennis Allen 650 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: leadhead team, uh leading a team as the head coach. 651 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: So it's just THEFC, you know, has ten good teams 652 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: and obviously like multiple powerhouses, and like the Chiefs and 653 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals. If the Bills are the third best team 654 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: in your conference, you're in pretty good shape right now. 655 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: The Chiefs and Bengals beat him, but it takes those 656 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: two teams and knock the Bills out. Maybe I'm crazy, 657 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: but I think the Jets are coming. I do same 658 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: with the same with the Jacks, same with the Jags. 659 00:34:46,560 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: The NFC, you know, it's just Cowboys, Niners, Eagles. The 660 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: volume