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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie Welcome back to the Solid Verba,
Speaker 2: Boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand here in
Speaker 2: the bunker, whoa by the one and only Dan Rubins
Speaker 2: seen over there in New York City. So how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't know what that voice was.
Speaker 2: It just I felt like possessed by a demon or
Speaker 2: a spirit or something. How are you I am?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm tired, but I have energy. I've eaten
Speaker 1: poorly today. I've hung out with the Little Man a
Speaker 1: lot because of an adjusted schedule since both I and
Speaker 1: Jody with and I are working from home. Naturally, I
Speaker 1: guess now as most people hopefully are. I know it's
Speaker 1: a weird time for pretty much everybody. But as I
Speaker 1: stand here in the clofice, I am avoiding a plate
Speaker 1: of oranges I handed her earlier in the day. The
Speaker 1: oranges are gone, but the plate remains on the floor
Speaker 1: of the cloth fists. So we're all adjusting here we
Speaker 1: are all hopefully taking measures to be safe and healthy
Speaker 1: and thoughtful. And I assume that many people listening are
Speaker 1: also And this is a tee up for you, TI Isolated.
Speaker 2: Isolated, Well, thank you for that, Dan. Today's show is
Speaker 2: titled Isolation Play. What we are doing is we are
Speaker 2: going back through the twenty nineteen college football season. We
Speaker 2: are examining some black Swan events.
Speaker 1: I was going to call the show Taiam Legend, and
Speaker 1: you can make that final decision when you're in the
Speaker 1: Art nineteen metadata lounge, but Taiam Legend is.
Speaker 2: Pretty good black Swan events, man. Yeah, and we're going
Speaker 2: to examine did they occur in isolation?
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 2: Probably won't happen again, or did they not occur in
Speaker 2: isolation is something we might see moving forward. So we
Speaker 2: got a bunch of responses from the overballer hood out
Speaker 2: there on Twitter and Reddit, which are going to go through.
Speaker 2: Also made up a few of our own, which I
Speaker 2: think are pretty good. I have one that I'm very
Speaker 2: excited to talk about with you. I think generally one
Speaker 2: that is, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm generally the one who starts our Google doc and
Speaker 1: I will come up with topics and whether if it's
Speaker 1: a Q and a I will cut and paste all
Speaker 1: their copy paste all of the questions that we've gotten
Speaker 1: from Twitter or Reddit or Instagram or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: you jump in and make adjustments and reorder things and
Speaker 1: ads tract whatever you come in and you Rod Beckett, Ty,
Speaker 1: I do really close it out. I do, yeah, and sorry.
Speaker 1: I was also listening to a CDC recently and Hell's
Speaker 1: Bells came on and I started thinking about nineties closers.
Speaker 1: Really a lot of goatee's there.
Speaker 2: As one of guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you really took. You spearheaded the effort for
Speaker 1: these isolated incidents of twenty nine And as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: we're going to figure out if this twenty nineteen occurrence,
Speaker 1: whether it was a single game, a single player, a
Speaker 1: team season, is an isolated experience or if it's something
Speaker 1: that we should expect more of moving forward. And for that,
Speaker 1: I say, thanks, Ty, you're a hell of a guy.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Daniel. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: That's much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, as you said at the top, we have
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Speaker 2: many of our responses today are black Swan events are
Speaker 2: taiam legend. Responses came via the subreddit at sOliver with
Speaker 2: our reddit dot com or good friend Peter does a
Speaker 2: marvelous job over there keeping the conversation going long after
Speaker 2: the final bell, Dan, did I miss anything? Or shall
Speaker 2: we dance? No?
Speaker 1: I think this makes me a what a loyal, entrusted
Speaker 1: German shepherd? Yes, if it's I, I am legend. Also, I
Speaker 1: totally forgot Troy Percival existed Troy Percival. Yes, that's all
Speaker 1: I have A'm looking at a list of career leaders
Speaker 1: and save and he has more than you think.
Speaker 2: Let's start here this one from Josiah on Twitter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in isolation? Did it not occur? In isolation? Alabama missing
Speaker 2: the playoffs? Daniel, Let's say you.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know how deeply you want to get
Speaker 1: into this unless you see a very clear and present
Speaker 1: danger to Alabama's playoff hopes moving forward. They bring in
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback of this class in Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: Presumably mac Jones has at least a hold on the
Speaker 1: job for the time being at quarterback, but the talent
Speaker 1: level is still extremely high. They managed to keep Sark,
Speaker 1: who called an all time, all time offense in terms
Speaker 1: of scoring efficiency for the Tide in twenty nineteen. I
Speaker 1: am not terribly worried about Alabama as a playoff contender,
Speaker 1: even if they fell short this year, especially when Tua
Speaker 1: went down. Of course, was the signal caller against LSU,
Speaker 1: and it was mac Jones who led the offense against
Speaker 1: against Auburn and the Iron Bowl. But no, it was
Speaker 1: a completely isolated phenomenon of Alabama being outside of the
Speaker 1: playoff conversation towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Can I get hot takes here for a second?
Speaker 1: I would love that.
Speaker 2: It's not usually something I do. I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: not an isolation. I'm gonna say not an isolation. And
Speaker 2: here's why. It's not based on any real, real, you
Speaker 2: know factors. But well, it's a hot take, So what
Speaker 2: the hell? I know? This isn't based on anything other
Speaker 2: than the fact that at some point the run has
Speaker 2: to end. For Nick Saban has to end at some point,
Speaker 2: sooner or later, he's going to retire, right presumably he's
Speaker 2: a normal human with a yah. I don't know, a
Speaker 2: normal retirement planned at some point in time. The SEC,
Speaker 2: I think, is getting better, Certainly on the eastern side
Speaker 2: of the conference. It's elevating its game. What with Georgia Florida,
Speaker 2: I feel like there are a rising number of threats
Speaker 2: to that crown.
Speaker 1: Are you taking tonight tonight? Are you confident in a
Speaker 1: team beating Alabama from the east in Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Am I confident?
Speaker 1: Jamie Newman in Georgia, Kyle Trask in Florida, I.
Speaker 2: Am more confident I think in Florida.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, that's I mean, it's a more proven quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: Ye okay, continue.
Speaker 2: I'm also really gonna steer hard this year into the
Speaker 2: whole Scotty Cochrane thing, how he was poached away from Alabama.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I call him Scottie, but you know,
Speaker 2: Scotty Cochrane going over to Georgia. Now, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I feel like, let me just.
Speaker 1: Put it here, like a utility infielder, Scottie Cochrane exactly.
Speaker 2: I think there are more threats to that Alabama pedestal
Speaker 2: now than there have been at any point in the
Speaker 2: last five years, and the talent levels absolutely still there.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to take the opposite side of the coin,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say it is not happening in isolation,
Speaker 2: that it is something we will see more of over
Speaker 2: the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can be pretty easily talked into just
Speaker 1: you know, give me some sort of give me some
Speaker 1: sort of tropical cocktail, and I could be talked into
Speaker 1: Alabama with TUA being the second best team in the
Speaker 1: country last year.
Speaker 2: Well, let's not you know, let's not let the facts
Speaker 2: get away of a good story.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen. I know, so, yeah, I guess we
Speaker 1: disagree early on. We disagree early.
Speaker 2: Hot here, Scottie too hotty. Okay, yeah, this one comes
Speaker 2: to us from a good friend, Dan Over on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, clobashar.
Speaker 2: He says Minnesota being a top fifteen caliber team in isolation,
Speaker 2: not in isolation. So what I would say to this
Speaker 2: is that the offense is again loaded. They did lose
Speaker 2: Kurt Shiraka to Penn State, but otherwise they bring back
Speaker 2: most of their offensive skill talent, which is good. This
Speaker 2: will be a test though for PJ. Fleck, because the
Speaker 2: defense is going to be in rebuild mode, particularly in
Speaker 2: the front seven. The schedule I think is favorable enough
Speaker 2: that they could make another run at being again top
Speaker 2: fifteen caliber. But suffice to say, Minnesota rising up to
Speaker 2: win what eleven games this past year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was sup. Plus the Bawl, Yeah, was a.
Speaker 2: Huge story and likely one that we're going to hear
Speaker 2: more about or the prospects about which we'll hear more
Speaker 2: when we enter into the twenty twenty season or get
Speaker 2: closer to that again, assuming areas one. So where do
Speaker 2: you stand on this one?
Speaker 1: So I'm not looking at this exercise strictly as a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty viewpoint, It's much more big picture to me,
Speaker 1: but you know your mileage may vary. I am buying
Speaker 1: Minnesota as a top fifteen ish team and do not
Speaker 1: think twenty nineteen was an isolated incident. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why, ty because that's what we're doing here today.
Speaker 2: Please tell me why.
Speaker 1: I like how they replaced Kirk Sharaka with Mike Sandford.
Speaker 1: Your guy, Nope, did a very nice job as a
Speaker 1: coordinator at a couple different places. So he's calling the offense.
Speaker 1: Tanner Morgan at worst, what the sixth best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the country, fifth, seventh somewhere in there. Return him. They
Speaker 1: lose Tyler Johnson, which is a big deal. Defensively, I
Speaker 1: really liked the job Joe Rossi. I think it's a
Speaker 1: Bronuns so that Joe Rossi has done. He took over
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago as an interim and then
Speaker 1: did a nice job with that defense last season. I
Speaker 1: think big picture to me is you look at the
Speaker 1: crossover games in the East, and they're generally going to
Speaker 1: have no more than two really tough games, depending on
Speaker 1: how those powers are. I think they missed Penn State
Speaker 1: this year in Ohio State, and I don't know if PJ.
Speaker 1: Fleck is going to wear thin at a certain point,
Speaker 1: that sort of raw raw row the boat type thing.
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening in the short term right now.
Speaker 1: And when I look at the West, I still see vulnerability,
Speaker 1: don't I mean, don't you oh? I was always always
Speaker 1: going to be good baseline pretty good to good Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska, Northwestern,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's always going to be good. But what Minnesota is
Speaker 1: building towards and this is what year one of becoming
Speaker 1: a successful team. And I know people myself, ourselves included,
Speaker 1: pointed to their quarterback opponent luck this year that they've
Speaker 1: played a bunch of backup quarterbacks. They obliterated those teams.
Speaker 1: It's not like if Adrian Martinez were playing for Nebraska
Speaker 1: that week that all of a sudden they're scoring thirty
Speaker 1: five more points. We have evidence that that's probably not
Speaker 1: the case with the twenty nineteen Huskers, as good as
Speaker 1: we want Nebraska to be, and so it's not like
Speaker 1: Minnesota with I think they snuck by what Purdue, but
Speaker 1: otherwise they were murdering teams. So I think that's an
Speaker 1: incredible first step. I think PJ flex a good recruiter.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to reload enough on defense when
Speaker 1: they lose guys, and they're gonna lose guys early, they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose coaches that that all comes to the territory
Speaker 1: like they did with Kirk Sharaka. I'm in. I think
Speaker 1: Minnesota is building to something consistent in that nine win range,
Speaker 1: and so with the standard deviation of a win or two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're right there. I think they are. They're
Speaker 1: solidly in that striving territory.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Hm, I'm there.
Speaker 2: I was not sold in Minnesota for most of the year.
Speaker 1: Taking down Auburn in the bowl game.
Speaker 2: Took down Auburn in the bowl game. The Penn State
Speaker 2: game obviously is one that I paid pretty close attention to.
Speaker 2: They've got pretty interesting skill talent. You know, I'm really
Speaker 2: all in on rash Bateman. Yeah, so, I I am
Speaker 2: inclined to agree with you where I sort of get
Speaker 2: hung up though, as that top fifteen qualification. If you
Speaker 2: told me as a top twenty five team consistently, I
Speaker 2: would say definitely. Not in isolation. I feel very confident
Speaker 2: about that. But top fifteen is a bit of a
Speaker 2: bridge too far, So for that reason, For that reason
Speaker 2: only I say isolation. But I don't feel particularly confident
Speaker 2: one way or the other, so I could be swayed.
Speaker 1: So after if we're talking about top fifteen what before
Speaker 1: conference championship games, is that probably the most accurate measure
Speaker 1: when everybody has the same record. There are one, two, three,
Speaker 1: three loss teams in the top sixteen, So if we're
Speaker 1: saying top fifteen ish, we're talking about nine to three
Speaker 1: ish team. Yeah, so yeah, I know it's Iowa, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and Auburn. I'll finish the regular season pre conference championship
Speaker 1: week with three losses and finished right there in that
Speaker 1: top fifteen ish territory.
Speaker 2: Moving on, Okay, this one comes to us from Brian
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Trevor Lawrence's down performances in the National Championship
Speaker 2: and against North Carolina, Dan isolation, not isolation.
Speaker 1: This one's a little bit more difficult. So if we're
Speaker 1: going to be specific about instead of North Carolina, because
Speaker 1: Clemson does not play North Carolina every year because they're
Speaker 1: in different ACC divisions, A down Trevor Lawrence conference game
Speaker 1: and a shaky performance against a Nation's elite team.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of there, which means he is
Speaker 1: simply really really really really really really good instead of
Speaker 1: the best of the best.
Speaker 2: So you are there in that it did not occur
Speaker 2: in isolation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is, and we saw it from
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson each year. And another really really really really
Speaker 1: really really really good quarterback, if not great, which Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence I think is right there between the many realies
Speaker 1: and great. I think when you look at the ACC
Speaker 1: trending in an upwards direction, I like the Boston College higher,
Speaker 1: I like what Louisville's doing. I certainly like what North
Speaker 1: Carolina's doing. Miami should have a good defense should Clemson
Speaker 1: crossover with them. I don't have the Clemson schedule in
Speaker 1: front of me. Maybe you can pull it up as
Speaker 1: I as I babble, this was it Lageria. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think most quarterbacks toss in a clunker, and most
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have a really tough time against defenses peaking like
Speaker 1: LSUS and Ohio States were in the championship game. I
Speaker 1: don't think Trevor Lawrence is bulletproof.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. This year's schedule has road
Speaker 2: games at Florida State and at Notre Dame, which you
Speaker 2: know interesting. Florida State will have to wait and see,
Speaker 2: but the Notre Dame one first week of November should
Speaker 2: be intriguing. Sure, the other games are at home. Mostly
Speaker 2: the other games are at home, so it's it's a
Speaker 2: favorable schedule. Again, I think for the most part. For
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. You brought up an interesting point though, and
Speaker 2: how many guys are truly infallible. Joe Burrow this year
Speaker 2: may have had the best season of a quarterback of
Speaker 2: all time. He was virtually infallible this past year.
Speaker 1: And still had stretches against Auburn that weren't great.
Speaker 2: Had stretches. By the way, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and LSU as a whole, whether or not
Speaker 2: that was an isolation. But you know, like I look
Speaker 2: at those games and sure Clemson didn't blow the doors
Speaker 2: off UNC. They won the game by one, But Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence did not thrown in that game. He didn't throw
Speaker 2: an interception in the championship game either. He didn't look himself.
Speaker 2: He was certainly a bit off climbed.
Speaker 1: Out of the gate against Louisville, but then was amazing thereafter.
Speaker 2: I just think we're so used to seeing Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: play to extraordinary heights that to see him not get
Speaker 2: to that same level on the grandest of college football
Speaker 2: stages is a bit underwhelming. Like you probably would have
Speaker 2: taken that performance if you were most other teams, even
Speaker 2: though it was an electric you still would have taken that.
Speaker 2: He didn't go out there, he didn't lose the game
Speaker 2: for his teams. In the LSU game and the title,
Speaker 2: they were down, he had a throw right. There was
Speaker 2: only so much he could do. The North Carolina one
Speaker 2: was just they were stuck in the mud. Maybe looking ahead.
Speaker 2: Who knows, But I am willing to kind of grant
Speaker 2: him those two performances in isolation and say that I
Speaker 2: still think he's the number one overall pick in the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. He's still the best quarterback
Speaker 2: college football, and I don't read too deeply into it.
Speaker 2: Next item, Next topic. We've got a fun one here
Speaker 2: for the Pac twelve fans out there. Washington State versus
Speaker 2: UCLA the Black Swan event of Black Swan events in
Speaker 2: college football. So remember at the time that this game
Speaker 2: took place, UCLA was very down on its luck. It
Speaker 2: was not seeming as if things were going to go
Speaker 2: in Chip Kelly's direction, and a large part they didn't.
Speaker 2: But this game kind of came out of left field
Speaker 2: in that UCLA put up sixty seven points won a
Speaker 2: wild shootout game sixty seven to sixty three over Wazoo Dan. Yes,
Speaker 2: this one comes to us from Max on Twitter. So, look,
Speaker 2: anytime you've got a game with the one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty total points, I think that's sort of in isolation,
Speaker 2: like that is not something that I see. Oh thank
Speaker 2: you that we see a whole lot of But I
Speaker 2: guess UCLA is scoring sixty seven points. Is that that's
Speaker 2: something that occurs in isolation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I wasn't even thinking about it like that.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it in terms of could these
Speaker 1: defenses be similarly awful in twenty twenty and beyond. My
Speaker 1: answer to that is yes, yes, So I would say
Speaker 1: that it's not isolated that degree of points though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does hinge on UCLA's offense, which I think will
Speaker 1: continue to improve. So I'm going to say not isolated
Speaker 1: in terms of the wild variance of a season. UCLA
Speaker 1: should have it once again, they finished the year keeping
Speaker 1: cal under thirty, allowing fifty two and forty nine on
Speaker 1: the road to USC in Utah. They randomly, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess Stanford was down, so they had random okay
Speaker 1: performances on defense against not great teams in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 1: But you look at what Hawaii was able to do
Speaker 1: on defense last year under Nick Rolovich, well he was
Speaker 1: the head coach, but it wasn't much. It's not like
Speaker 1: I expect. I don't think anybody really expects in Pullman
Speaker 1: that the Washington State defense is going to take an
Speaker 1: enormous leap forward with what should be another very efficient
Speaker 1: and probably more balanced offense under Nick Rolovich. And I
Speaker 1: don't think there's much reason to believe in any sort
Speaker 1: of grand improvement on defense for UCLA moving forward. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to say there is a very good chance
Speaker 1: that if we see an absolutely Bonker's late night Pack
Speaker 1: twelve game with one hundred plus total points scored, that
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that it involves either or both
Speaker 1: of UCILA in Washington State.
Speaker 2: Again, I don't have a strong point to counter yours,
Speaker 2: so I'm just going to say I agree. I'm going
Speaker 2: to move on Okay, let's go over to Reddit. This
Speaker 2: one comes to us about our boy Michael Cunningham from Woolville,
Speaker 2: about Scott Saderfeld. The text of this post here Satterfield,
Speaker 2: as it were, what did I say?
Speaker 1: Felt? I like that though your mind's on the organ
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning program continue.
Speaker 2: What an incredible turnaround in one season from a program
Speaker 2: in the dumps. Satterfield and Cunningham could be really special
Speaker 2: together in a totally vulnerable conference minus the big Orange Tiger. So, okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about Louisville. We're talking about their seven and
Speaker 2: five season. We're talking about whether or not it happened
Speaker 2: in isolation, I guess.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, let's break down what this means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's try to figure this out. Is this something
Speaker 2: that you felt was a fluke? I guess is how
Speaker 2: I'll phrase it.
Speaker 1: So, what I suppose Louisville is hoping for Louisville noll
Speaker 1: is to be a more southern Minnesota with Southern Minnesota
Speaker 1: in Minnesota in that I don't have Louisville schedule in
Speaker 1: front of me. But whoever submitted this says and claims
Speaker 1: there are only two definite losses.
Speaker 2: There are only two yeah, that's me. Two definite losses.
Speaker 2: So I looked at the schedule and it I think
Speaker 2: is pretty favorable for Louisville. The two losses that I
Speaker 2: am just giving them right out of the shoot are
Speaker 2: at Clemson's second week of the year. They'll fight them.
Speaker 2: But at Clemson second week of the year, I think
Speaker 2: it's a loss. And I think at Notre Dame second
Speaker 2: to last week of the year. But otherwise, you know,
Speaker 2: like the schedule isn't easy, but it's not the kind
Speaker 2: that jumps out at me and says, wow, this is impossible.
Speaker 2: Like you can win on the road at Syracuse and
Speaker 2: at Boston College. You can win at home against Florida
Speaker 2: State because Florida State's in transition. Virginia Tech at home
Speaker 2: is a tough game, but it is at home, so
Speaker 2: I think it's doable. At Virginia who knows, Lake Forest,
Speaker 2: you can win that game. Can you beat Kentucky at home?
Speaker 2: Had a rough time with the Cats last year, Tyler
Speaker 2: had a rough time last year, But can you beat
Speaker 2: Kentucky at home? Yay, you could beat Kentucky at home.
Speaker 2: So I like, it's not an impossible schedule, so it's
Speaker 2: there for him. Again, I am going.
Speaker 1: To say that until proven otherwise, I think Louisville is
Speaker 1: probably going to stay around where they are. And that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with and I don't know if
Speaker 1: this was intended. It has notnything to do with Michael
Speaker 1: Cunningham and Scott Saderfield. I think as a combination the
Speaker 1: fireworks between them and what that offense could be was
Speaker 1: not an isolated incident in twenty nineteen. I think we
Speaker 1: should see more of that over the next year or
Speaker 1: two years, hopefully if we get that much from Michael Cunningham.
Speaker 1: What I'm worried about is that defense was god awful
Speaker 1: last year. Now it's your one or year zero as
Speaker 1: it were, with how low they fell under Bobby Patrino.
Speaker 1: Scott Saderfield always had a very good eye and had
Speaker 1: a very good plan and idea for what he wanted
Speaker 1: from his app state defenses, and he had a good
Speaker 1: eye for coordinators. And I think the Louisville defensive staff
Speaker 1: Louisville is capable of turning this into an above average
Speaker 1: defense and in that case seven and five becomes an
Speaker 1: isolated twenty nineteen incident. But Mikhail Cunningham is down. I
Speaker 1: believe both of his full time starting tackles. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of what I assume to be open position battles
Speaker 1: whenever we get to see football again on defense, because
Speaker 1: that's what happens when your defense is probably one of
Speaker 1: the worst I don't know, thirty thirty five in the country.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say not. I'm gonna say not isolated.
Speaker 1: I think there is a lot of room for growth,
Speaker 1: but there's no reason to believe that they are definitely
Speaker 1: a nine to three, ten and two type program, big
Speaker 1: picture right now?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, love mcaale, love mckill. Yeah, or he's my boy,
Speaker 1: Oh now he is. Yeah, he's always been, Okay, just
Speaker 1: making sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was an isolated incident. I think
Speaker 2: that seven and five. I think the point of the
Speaker 2: question is not seven and five. I think the point
Speaker 2: of the question is that Louisville had a much much
Speaker 2: better gear in twenty nineteen than anyone expected. And he's
Speaker 2: asking like, was that a fluke or should we expect
Speaker 2: more good years? I mean relatives to what you believe
Speaker 2: good is for Louisville, relative to what you believe good is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do not think it was an isolated incident. I've
Speaker 2: always believed in Scott Satterfield, Satterfeld, whatever, whatever nomenclich you'd
Speaker 2: like to use, I've always believed in him. I think
Speaker 2: they've got something with Michail Cunningham now now that he's
Speaker 2: changed his name and feeling more comfortable with himself as
Speaker 2: a human. Yeah, I think they got something there. I
Speaker 2: know the defense is a bit of an issue, but
Speaker 2: I think he knows it. Scott Saderfeld, I think he knows.
Speaker 2: Just think about Fieldy from corn Ty. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to mix these up all year, now, aren't I?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Were they finished one hundred and thirteenth in rushing
Speaker 1: sp plus and ninetieth in passing sp plus they allowed,
Speaker 1: They were one hundred and third and big explosive plays allowed,
Speaker 1: and finished overall one hundredth in defensive sp plus. I
Speaker 1: anticipate that going into the probably sixties seventies this year
Speaker 1: bare minimum. So I'm confident as a program, I think
Speaker 1: will I think they are going in a good direction.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I would expect more winning campaigns.
Speaker 1: Next item.
Speaker 2: Next item, Kyle Trask quietly being one of the best
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the SEC. The respondent here from Reddit says
Speaker 2: I couldn't care less about the arm strength, but Florida's
Speaker 2: offensive staff was great at creating mismatches before the snap.
Speaker 2: Trask was great at idfying and exploiting them. I would
Speaker 2: also add dan he threw for twenty five touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: He had the second best yards per game metric in
Speaker 2: terms of SEC quarterbacks. That is behind one Joseph Burrow,
Speaker 2: who threw sixty touchdown passes and won the Heisman Trophy
Speaker 2: in addition to the National championship.
Speaker 1: Wait, Kyle Trask had more yards per game than Tua?
Speaker 2: Yes he did.
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm saying? Okay, I will go back
Speaker 1: and double check that, but okay, I believe that's accurate.
Speaker 1: So it is. Yeah, maybe because Tua was not eligible,
Speaker 1: That's what it appears to problem Tomatoes model.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts here on Kyle Trask? I
Speaker 2: will add a little bit more context and say he
Speaker 2: is a guy that we definitely dogged because of the
Speaker 2: arm strength.
Speaker 1: I mean, it had nothing to do with his actual production,
Speaker 1: no ability. It was just tom throw Kyle.
Speaker 2: But it became evident as the year war on that
Speaker 2: the coaching staff knew how to coach him. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: knew how to use him, they knew what he was
Speaker 2: good at, and they put him in I think, a
Speaker 2: really good position to succeed. Completed something like sixty six
Speaker 2: percent of his passes, which as a first year started
Speaker 2: quarterback is pretty damn good. Yeah, and you know, Felipe
Speaker 2: Franks is transferring, which tells you a lot about where
Speaker 2: the state of the quarterback position is headed in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty for Florida. So they certainly believe in him. Felipe
Speaker 2: Franks obviously believes in him, and the numbers are there
Speaker 2: to support him as being a very good quarterback in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So if I'm to try to interpret this correctly, the
Speaker 1: isolated part of the Kyle Trask twenty nineteen is that
Speaker 1: it was very quiet and Tua did finish with I
Speaker 1: think sixty more yards per game, but was just not
Speaker 1: eligible because he only played in I think nine games.
Speaker 1: So even still, it's fine, Kyle Trask had a good year.
Speaker 1: He's full on good. I don't think Kyle Trask is
Speaker 1: going to take any but he by surprise in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and beyond. I do not think Kyle Trask's success
Speaker 1: was isolated to twenty nineteen. So I'm gonna say not isolated,
Speaker 1: because especially with the landscape of quarterbacks and proven success
Speaker 1: in the conference, Dan says, referencing Jamie Newman without saying
Speaker 1: Jamie Newman's name, I Kyle Trask might is he the
Speaker 1: best returning quarterback in the SEC?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Mac Jones, Jamie Newman will see what
Speaker 1: happens in that Georgia system. I don't think it's anybody
Speaker 1: else in the East. I think Kelen Mond is fine.
Speaker 1: Alabama fans always seem to be a little bit scared
Speaker 1: of him. But yeah, I'm I don't think there's anything
Speaker 1: underrated about Kyle Trask anymore. No, I not isolated.
Speaker 2: I tend to agree. I don't think it's in isolation either.
Speaker 1: I think it's properly rated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier in the year, I would have said isolation.
Speaker 2: This is a fluke, this is a black swan. But no,
Speaker 2: I don't think anymore. I think Dann Mollen knows how
Speaker 2: to coach the quarterback position. He just does, and he
Speaker 2: will find a way to coach him up, continue putting
Speaker 2: him in positions to succeed. Next item, final Reddit item
Speaker 2: here before we move to a couple that I came
Speaker 2: up with on my own. Yep, LSU having possibly the
Speaker 2: best season ever in all of college football in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: That is what That is what our topic is here.
Speaker 1: I assume the intention of this is not, well, LSU
Speaker 1: just continue to one up itself and have the greatest
Speaker 1: season every year over year over year.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, correct? Correct. The respondent adds a little bit
Speaker 2: of his or her own context, saying they won't ever
Speaker 2: do it again. Are back, almost all new coaches, still
Speaker 2: the same competition. They're going to go eight and four.
Speaker 2: The fan base is going to enter a deep depression
Speaker 2: and honestly, that's about what they should do. Okay, So,
Speaker 2: like eight and four in the SEC West is obviously
Speaker 2: not LSU standards at this point, given the fact that
Speaker 2: they had such an incredible run, I think totally understandable,
Speaker 2: given the fact that there is so much turnover, especially
Speaker 2: losing one Joseph Burrow, Joe Dirt, Joe Brady, who guys
Speaker 2: are gone. But is LSU back? Let me rephrase the
Speaker 2: question as such, are they back? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what we're saying was twenty nineteen with LSU
Speaker 1: as obviously the elite of the elite. Was that limited
Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen or is this conversation we should be
Speaker 1: having about LSU. Yes, these next thirty years of ed
Speaker 1: ours run coaching the Tigers, right, I'm gonna say it's
Speaker 1: not isolated. I'm not saying they're having, you know, the
Speaker 1: most incredible season after the most incredible season and so forth.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say that he is going
Speaker 1: to keep finding thirty year old wounder kind.
Speaker 2: That's that's German time, authentic German.
Speaker 1: Thank you, passing game coordinators to pair with Steve Ensminger
Speaker 1: to really take the offense to a new level, because
Speaker 1: he just hired Scott Linehan to help run the offense.
Speaker 1: So that worries me a little bit. But my argument
Speaker 1: of LSU being back to LSU, or at least the
Speaker 1: hopes and dreams of LSU fan fans, the argument is
Speaker 1: you can't win a national championship without knowing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You can't stumble into a national championship. I trust ed
Speaker 1: Orjeron to coach LSU two more playoff appearances because of
Speaker 1: the infrastructure, the staff, the ability to convince those above
Speaker 1: him to pay for X, Y and Z, the ability
Speaker 1: to recruit at a top five to seven level nationally.
Speaker 1: Perhaps some of the change in the SEC and the
Speaker 1: SEC West specifically LSU is we'll see with quarterback, but
Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep finding skill talent like
Speaker 1: they are always able to do, even when the offense struggles.
Speaker 1: They return the Bolitni cow forward winning receiver and Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase this year for I assume Miles Brennan, but we'll
Speaker 1: see they have two blue chip backups behind him last
Speaker 1: I checked. And there is so much about an ability
Speaker 1: to hire, to maintain, to sort of install and maintain
Speaker 1: a culture that I think at Orizron has done at LSU.
Speaker 1: It would surprise me if we're not talking about LSU
Speaker 1: as a playoff contender deep into November most years.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The interesting I think transformation on the LSU side
Speaker 2: came from ed or Jeron recognizing that he needed to
Speaker 2: fix the offense and being savvy enough to go out
Speaker 2: and find a way to do it. Sure you know,
Speaker 2: like we've heard that same line year in and year out.
Speaker 2: It's part of the reason we both were very skeptical
Speaker 2: about this past season being LSU's year. Clearly edwards Ron
Speaker 2: figured something out. Clearly he spotted a deficiency, he knew
Speaker 2: enough to go out there and fix it till the void.
Speaker 2: So at least in that sense, I think he grew
Speaker 2: as a coach, and that should make LSU fans very excited.
Speaker 2: What they saw this past year was to some extent
Speaker 2: an anomaly. I don't know if you're ever going to
Speaker 2: have another quarterback put in the kind of season that
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow did. That might be an isolation. That was
Speaker 2: truly one of the great seasons in college football history.
Speaker 2: It's just not a reasonable expectation year in and year out.
Speaker 1: And if you gave anybody in the LSU facility truth sarum,
Speaker 1: there is not one person who said, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something that we expected of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: No e.
Speaker 1: When he transferred here, we saw that potential. Nobody saw
Speaker 1: feeling Hey, nobody saw that. You didn't even see it.
Speaker 2: After the twenty eighteen season, for sure, we saw a
Speaker 2: quarterback and Joe Burrow who was very good in big spots,
Speaker 2: but wasn't nearly the caliber quarterback we saw in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the first pick in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty draft. So like nobody in their right mind expects
Speaker 2: that that's going to not be an isolation moving forward.
Speaker 2: But LSU as a contender is interesting. You know, if
Speaker 2: I'm going to be consistent, remember I answered at the
Speaker 2: top that it wasn't in isolation that Alabama missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an isolation either that ls is
Speaker 2: going to remain a contender because I trust an ed
Speaker 2: O just like you do, and I trust in the
Speaker 2: talent coming into Baton Rouge. I think he's sort of
Speaker 2: figured things out. Now. That's the kind of coach who's
Speaker 2: going to be at LSU until they drag him out
Speaker 2: of there, until he he's like no longer vertical. He
Speaker 2: loves that job, he loves that place. And if you're
Speaker 2: an LYSC fan, you gotta be pretty excited about we
Speaker 2: saw so yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Something also important to remember when you know it's easy
Speaker 1: to talk about LSU's struggles attracting and developing top flight quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: nobody does it until they do. Exactly, Alabama wasn't rolling
Speaker 1: killers out there until they did, until they found TUA.
Speaker 1: And listen and listen, listen. Greg mccrroy a, Jim Mccaerroon
Speaker 1: Blake Sims, Jake Koker all fine. I think many, if
Speaker 1: not all of them Blake Sims didn't won national championships.
Speaker 1: You look at Ohio State quarterbacks, they didn't have killers
Speaker 1: until they did. You look at Clemson quarterbacks, they didn't
Speaker 1: have killers until they did. LSU didn't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like Zach Mettenberger, I do, but they didn't have a
Speaker 1: true killer until they did. And what's going to happen
Speaker 1: now is hi school freshman, high school sophomore? Is high
Speaker 1: school juniors? Watch what the position that Joe Burrow was
Speaker 1: put in in baton rouge and they think to themselves,
Speaker 1: huh huh. I could see myself having some fun there.
Speaker 1: I could see that in the same way Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: saw Deshaun Watson do it, in the same way Bryce
Speaker 1: Young Sawtua Tongue of Iloa do it. You don't have
Speaker 1: a killer until you do.
Speaker 2: That is a perfect segue into maybe my favorite question
Speaker 2: that I've ever asked on the show. Part of the
Speaker 2: reason why I think we've got the top college football
Speaker 2: podcast across all the podcastings.
Speaker 1: We definitely are eligible to be named that, Daniel.
Speaker 2: As you know, LSU want its national championship playing in
Speaker 2: New Orleans. It was effectively a home field advantage for
Speaker 2: the Bayou Bangals, right.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite places in the world. Not effectively, it.
Speaker 2: Was very rarely does that happen where you've got sort
Speaker 2: of a home field advantage for a team playing in
Speaker 2: a championship game?
Speaker 1: Right? True?
Speaker 2: Is this something that occurred in isolation or something that
Speaker 2: looking out at the next four years of college Football
Speaker 2: Playoff championship games you could see happening again? So LSU
Speaker 2: played again virtual home game in New Orleans. The next
Speaker 2: four College Football Playoff National Championship games are in South
Speaker 2: Florida in twenty twenty one, in Indianapolis in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: We can talk about that, in LA in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and Houston, Texas in twenty twenty four. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: guess the larger question is will there be a participant
Speaker 2: from one of those states playing in effect a home
Speaker 2: game in the College Football Playoff National champion chip Or
Speaker 2: was what we saw out of LSU this year truly
Speaker 2: in isolation?
Speaker 1: Well? First of all, the last item tweeted by a
Speaker 1: confirmed person on Twitter was January thirteenth. I looked up
Speaker 1: quote virtual home game end quote, and it is about LSA,
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you used that phrasing.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty one South Florida, so the virtual home
Speaker 1: games involved there would be I guess the three big
Speaker 1: Florida schools, Miami, Florida, Florida State.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Miami and Florida State are not making the
Speaker 2: Tuttle Game. So this one's all on the Gators.
Speaker 1: It's all on the Gators, and by South Florida. I
Speaker 1: assume the game is in Miami. It's not in my
Speaker 1: necessarily that close to Gainesville, right, but I guess relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, so this is twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty season, yeah right, right, Okay, so
Speaker 1: this is early January twenty twenty one, not the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one season itself. Correct, I'm going to say no
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. Indianapolis twenty twenty two. I'll defer
Speaker 1: to you since I suppose, and I know some Midwestern
Speaker 1: cities are closer than we realize to each other. But
Speaker 1: Indiana Notre Dame, Perdue and Indiana State.
Speaker 2: Be Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: It would be Notre Dame most likely. Yes, twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three Los Angeles UCLA USC. Yeah, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can call Bay Area schools virtual home game, and neither
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area major schools are going to go.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Arizona schools are closer than you realize,
Speaker 1: I suppose, but no, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Four in Houston is the one that I'm I'm building to.
Speaker 2: Will Texas be back in the twenty twenty three? It's
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Well, Texas A and M is
Speaker 2: truly the home game, that's the home game of all
Speaker 2: home games.
Speaker 1: The distance from Baton Rouge to Houston, tie, I think
Speaker 1: you are. So it's two hundred and sixty eight miles, okay,
Speaker 1: four hour drive. The distance from Austin to Houston. I
Speaker 1: imagine it's shorter, but I don't think it's that much shorter.
Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty two miles about one hundred miles closer,
Speaker 1: So certainly closer Baton Rouge, I think than Dallas, right
Speaker 1: for TCU SMU Okay, so Dallas to Houston is two
Speaker 1: thirty nine so it's right around the same as Baton Rouge.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say because of the number of
Speaker 1: Louisiana and New Orleans transplants that currently live in Houston.
Speaker 1: I would say, I am saying that an LSU national
Speaker 1: championship and appearance in Houston is a virtual home game. Okay,
Speaker 1: so between LSU A and M and Texas, three teams
Speaker 1: that recruit at a high level. Yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say that's not likely, but it's in the realm of possibility.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think it happened. In isolation, This is so
Speaker 2: hard to do, so hard to do. How many Super
Speaker 2: Bowls have we looked at and said, wow, we could
Speaker 2: see it happening where it's a home game, and it
Speaker 2: never is.
Speaker 1: This is Isn't it going to happen for Tampa tom
Speaker 1: this year in the NFL?
Speaker 2: No, they have no defense. No defense. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: it's like so hard of a thing to have happened.
Speaker 2: I just I on paper now, a couple years in
Speaker 2: the future. Sure it's a possibility, but this almost never happens.
Speaker 2: I say, in isolation, I would love to go out
Speaker 2: to LA in twenty twenty three and Houston in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, and I have no interest in probably going
Speaker 2: to the games, but eating and doing shows from there.
Speaker 2: Maybe a live show or two. Yeah, Okay, so I'm
Speaker 2: still enthusiastic about the possibility. I have two more here, Dan,
Speaker 2: all right, let's do them simply Baylor's eleven win season.
Speaker 1: I think Baylor is going to remain a pretty successful program.
Speaker 1: I think twenty nineteen was a very specific culmination of
Speaker 1: the Matt Rule era that coincided with a lot of
Speaker 1: change in the Big Twelve and the Bears coming into
Speaker 1: their own. I'm going to say isolated doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: don't think they could be an eight to nine win
Speaker 1: program under Dave Randa. I just I think Matt Rule
Speaker 1: is special. I was bummed when Oregon didn't get him.
Speaker 1: I know at the last second he decided to go
Speaker 1: with Baylor over the Ducks. And so I'm going to
Speaker 1: say isolated twenty nineteen with as much as they're replacing
Speaker 1: moving forward, with as much as or just the idea
Speaker 1: that I don't see an obvious stud quarterback at Baylor
Speaker 1: for Larry Fedora right now open to change, I'm going
Speaker 1: to say that was isolated.
Speaker 2: I think it's isolated in that it was an eleven
Speaker 2: win season, but as a comfortable Bowl team moving forward,
Speaker 2: that is not an isolation. I think Baylor will be
Speaker 2: just fine. I like Dave Randa's hires.
Speaker 1: I like super striving if we're gonna use our yeah,
Speaker 1: super distriving.
Speaker 2: Sure. I like the infrastructure that he's put in place.
Speaker 2: I think Matt Rule did a good job building that
Speaker 2: program back up, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, we'll see.
Speaker 2: We don't know, yeah, and I we will see. I
Speaker 2: do think if Dave Randa can continue building a top
Speaker 2: flight defense, especially in the Big Twelve, that could serve
Speaker 2: as a competitive advantage. It's still like there are programs
Speaker 2: around the Big Twelve that have gotten better defensively, but
Speaker 2: it still is not the calling card you think of
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, you think of high powered offense. If he can,
Speaker 2: in fact build a tough, gritty defense the way Matt
Speaker 2: Rule was building at Baylor, that that can serve as
Speaker 2: a real advantage.
Speaker 1: So first of all, you mean the Phil Snow advisory,
Speaker 1: the Phil Snow advisory, of course, yeah, I mean Dave
Speaker 1: rand is gonna have a lot more than just the
Speaker 1: defense to look over, as you.
Speaker 2: Know he will. He will, but he's gone out. He's
Speaker 2: hired a defensive coordinator who is very much like minded,
Speaker 2: but actually here on a mentor. Right, So I'm I'm
Speaker 2: bullish on Baylor remaining at a very high bull eligible
Speaker 2: level eight and four, nine and three level. I don't
Speaker 2: know about eleven wins though, eleven wins is tough to replicate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, late November Thanksgiving playoff conversation, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to have to postpone about Baylor.
Speaker 2: Final one here as we talk about Big twelve. Yeah, Dan,
Speaker 2: as you know, we had a very popular Fantasy Things item.
Speaker 2: You had it actually this past year. Guys being labeled
Speaker 2: as having a little bit of Baker Mayfield in.
Speaker 1: Them, guys being dudes.
Speaker 2: Our friend Bill Barnwall, I believe he used it in
Speaker 2: one of his recent columns in the I just saw
Speaker 2: Bill he visited the quarantine. Did he do that on purpose?
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Oh, the little bit of Baker
Speaker 2: may probably did right. I didn't plant that. So either
Speaker 2: he listened to a Fantasy Things show and enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Are just as a pulse for the football conversation. So
Speaker 2: I want to know as this particular comparison rose to
Speaker 2: prominence this past year. I want to know if it
Speaker 2: happened in isolation that it became the go to quarterback
Speaker 2: comparison or not in isolation and by that. I mean
Speaker 2: it will be supplanted by quarterbacks who are now compared
Speaker 2: to Patrick Mahomes being so you know, super Bowl winning
Speaker 2: quarterback MVP. Will there be more quarterbacks that have a
Speaker 2: little bit of Pat Mahomes in them, or more quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that have a little bit of Kyler Murray in them,
Speaker 2: or maybe even Tim Tebow for a throwback. What do
Speaker 2: you think will be the go to quarterback comparison? Will
Speaker 2: it be Baker Mayfield still or will it slowly shift
Speaker 2: to someone like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it'll be Baker Mayfield because that
Speaker 1: was coming on the heels of him having a Heisman
Speaker 1: year and then a really promise saying rookie year in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, then he didn't play as well this
Speaker 1: past year?
Speaker 2: Right, No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: What about what about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: I think you could see comparisons to the the sort
Speaker 1: of path Joe Burrow took where like it didn't work
Speaker 1: out at his original backup school, at school where he
Speaker 1: was a backup and then maybe a school hired a
Speaker 1: new coach and they I don't think Joe Burrow has
Speaker 1: that same sort of because Baker Mayfield was a known
Speaker 1: high quality quarterback in college for so long that people
Speaker 1: became aware of him as both a quarterback and as
Speaker 1: a personality. And you know, he's fiery and frisky whatever,
Speaker 1: planting the flag that you know his teammates rally around him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a specific all encompassing
Speaker 1: quarterback that is going to get Baker Mayfield esque comparisons,
Speaker 1: like not Kyler Murray, not you know, as Tim Tebow
Speaker 1: did in years past. Patrick Mahomes. Maybe if a guy
Speaker 1: is sort of scrambling to buy time and has an
Speaker 1: hop salute cannon for an arm, but even still, Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is a pretty subdued guy, right right, sort of
Speaker 1: happy and uh, it seems pretty chill personality wise, So
Speaker 1: I don't know who that would be. Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: just sort of on an even keel. Tua didn't have
Speaker 1: a huge personality on the field celebrating, but nothing crazy
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield. So I don't know who that who
Speaker 1: that that you know that flag is that that has
Speaker 1: been planted that this is the next type of guy,
Speaker 1: This is the next guy to be this type of
Speaker 1: guy on the football field, grabbing his crotch, planting flags,
Speaker 1: doing what playing in an intramural game, just that type
Speaker 1: of over the topness. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1: Who is it? I don't know who are the returning
Speaker 1: really impressive quarterbacks or that are just leaving quarterbacks. Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert's not that Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have a little bit of Sam Howell.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's quite got it, not yet
Speaker 2: the heights of Baker Mayfield. But Sam Howell has been interesting.
Speaker 2: He was a freshman, he had a great campaign. It's
Speaker 2: got a little bit of Jordan Loved, a little bit
Speaker 2: of Yeah, exactly, Like it's really tough to find that guy,
Speaker 2: which is why I asked the question, has anyone supplanted
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. I think we've heard about Patrick Mahomes, and
Speaker 2: we've heard about others in the past. I actually think
Speaker 2: the comparison, if we're gonna stick with that particular formula,
Speaker 2: is Okay, we're gonna hear less about a little bit
Speaker 2: of Baker Mayfield, and we're gonna hear more about a
Speaker 2: little bit of Joe Brady as it relates to rising
Speaker 2: highly thought of assistant coaches. That's what we're gonna hear
Speaker 2: more of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I am. I'm on that same page
Speaker 1: because I'm looking right now at the most efficient quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and they're either good, but we don't have a sense
Speaker 1: for their personality. Nationally. We saw Baker Mayfield in the playoff.
Speaker 1: We saw Baker Mayfield against Ohio State a couple times.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see that type of insta fame
Speaker 1: and personality recognition from these names. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good off season for a
Speaker 1: little bit kind of thing. Fair enough, So isolated, Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield is his own energy source.
Speaker 2: I think that's right.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I think that's what we're saying. Yeah, Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 2: cold fusion. There it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well this has been fun. No, that's
Speaker 1: all I got. That's all I got for now. Okay,
Speaker 1: right into solid Verbo at gmail dot com. Let us
Speaker 1: know your isolation not isolation plays. We'd love to talk
Speaker 1: more about these.
Speaker 2: I think this is a fun topic, and certainly, as
Speaker 2: we're going to remain in isolation forever more, it is
Speaker 2: something we could revisit as part of a volume two.
Speaker 2: If you're open, have you.
Speaker 1: Been working out me? No? Yeah, going for runs or
Speaker 1: some sort of.
Speaker 2: I know it looks and I know the video that
Speaker 2: we've I know it looks at but just it's not
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not the case I have on and off.
Speaker 1: I'm not nearly as good as I should be.
Speaker 2: I would like to. I need to do more of it,
Speaker 2: but I just you know I haven't been able.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with this tie please before you
Speaker 1: go on to probably more important things. For the first
Speaker 1: time in my life, I am tasked with the sole
Speaker 1: responsibility of a very small human. Normally we have childcare
Speaker 1: for the solid baby, solid toddler, but we don't because
Speaker 1: of the quarantine isolation.
Speaker 2: See now, the solid toddler, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what I mean. A toddler toddles and sort
Speaker 1: of walks along and walks around, whereas the solid sun
Speaker 1: only does that with furniture.
Speaker 2: Right. So he's one, right, he's a little bit over one,
Speaker 2: a little older than one. So okay, all I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say is nothing makes you feel like what you do,
Speaker 2: what I do, what most people do, is less important
Speaker 2: than we thought than having to raise a child solo
Speaker 2: and not being able to go outside or to go
Speaker 2: to classes of the park or anything like that especially
Speaker 2: for any extended period of time.
Speaker 1: I know there have been talks of stimuli. Stimulus is stimuli.
Speaker 1: I My personal belief and this isn't because I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: is that anybody who is a stay at home childcare
Speaker 1: provider should be a no doubt millionaire because it is
Speaker 1: so impressive and tiring and incredible and demanding that whether
Speaker 1: you're a teacher, whether you're a childcare professional, whether you
Speaker 1: just take care of your kids all day and that's
Speaker 1: your job. Holy hell, are you the best of us?
Speaker 1: Holy hell? That's all. That's all And it's been three days.
Speaker 2: So this is your d this is your Jordan flu
Speaker 2: podcast is what this is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I essentially that, But also you know that there's
Speaker 1: like a meme where it's like watches movie once and
Speaker 1: then is suddenly fully that's how I am now with
Speaker 1: with parenting all day at home, where it's just like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you normally do when you're not taking care
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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's very fitting because a lot of folks
Speaker 2: find themselves in that situation now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at home.
Speaker 2: I don't want to stay stuck at home, but.
Speaker 1: No, but homeschooling obviously, kids are home from school.
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