WEBVTT - Isolation Play

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbo. I'm that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for Dake Edo steak? Is that woo whoom?

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<v Speaker 2>And Dan and Tie Welcome back to the Solid Verba,

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<v Speaker 2>Boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand here in

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker, whoa by the one and only Dan Rubins

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<v Speaker 2>seen over there in New York City. So how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I don't know what that voice was.

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<v Speaker 2>It just I felt like possessed by a demon or

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<v Speaker 2>a spirit or something. How are you I am?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm tired, but I have energy. I've eaten

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<v Speaker 1>poorly today. I've hung out with the Little Man a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because of an adjusted schedule since both I and

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<v Speaker 1>Jody with and I are working from home. Naturally, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess now as most people hopefully are. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird time for pretty much everybody. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>stand here in the clofice, I am avoiding a plate

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<v Speaker 1>of oranges I handed her earlier in the day. The

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<v Speaker 1>oranges are gone, but the plate remains on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>of the cloth fists. So we're all adjusting here we

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<v Speaker 1>are all hopefully taking measures to be safe and healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and thoughtful. And I assume that many people listening are

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<v Speaker 1>also And this is a tee up for you, TI Isolated.

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<v Speaker 2>Isolated, Well, thank you for that, Dan. Today's show is

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<v Speaker 2>titled Isolation Play. What we are doing is we are

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<v Speaker 2>going back through the twenty nineteen college football season. We

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<v Speaker 2>are examining some black Swan events.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to call the show Taiam Legend, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can make that final decision when you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>Art nineteen metadata lounge, but Taiam Legend is.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good black Swan events, man. Yeah, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to examine did they occur in isolation?

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<v Speaker 1>I e.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably won't happen again, or did they not occur in

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<v Speaker 2>isolation is something we might see moving forward. So we

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<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of responses from the overballer hood out

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<v Speaker 2>there on Twitter and Reddit, which are going to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>Also made up a few of our own, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think are pretty good. I have one that I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>excited to talk about with you. I think generally one

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<v Speaker 2>that is, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm generally the one who starts our Google doc and

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<v Speaker 1>I will come up with topics and whether if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Q and a I will cut and paste all

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<v Speaker 1>their copy paste all of the questions that we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitter or Reddit or Instagram or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you jump in and make adjustments and reorder things and

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<v Speaker 1>ads tract whatever you come in and you Rod Beckett, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>I do really close it out. I do, yeah, and sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also listening to a CDC recently and Hell's

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<v Speaker 1>Bells came on and I started thinking about nineties closers.

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<v Speaker 1>Really a lot of goatee's there.

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<v Speaker 2>As one of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you really took. You spearheaded the effort for

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<v Speaker 1>these isolated incidents of twenty nine And as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to figure out if this twenty nineteen occurrence,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was a single game, a single player, a

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<v Speaker 1>team season, is an isolated experience or if it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we should expect more of moving forward. And for that,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, thanks, Ty, you're a hell of a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, Daniel. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, as you said at the top, we have

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<v Speaker 2>been doing this thing on Instagram. If you are an

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<v Speaker 2>we presume for college football or just weird content, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and so here we are to try and fill that

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be here for probably quite some time,

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<v Speaker 2>many of our responses today are black Swan events are

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<v Speaker 2>taiam legend. Responses came via the subreddit at sOliver with

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<v Speaker 2>our reddit dot com or good friend Peter does a

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<v Speaker 2>marvelous job over there keeping the conversation going long after

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<v Speaker 2>the final bell, Dan, did I miss anything? Or shall

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<v Speaker 2>we dance? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think this makes me a what a loyal, entrusted

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<v Speaker 1>German shepherd? Yes, if it's I, I am legend. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally forgot Troy Percival existed Troy Percival. Yes, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I have A'm looking at a list of career leaders

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<v Speaker 1>and save and he has more than you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start here this one from Josiah on Twitter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation? Did it not occur? In isolation? Alabama missing

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs? Daniel, Let's say you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know how deeply you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into this unless you see a very clear and present

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<v Speaker 1>danger to Alabama's playoff hopes moving forward. They bring in

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<v Speaker 1>the number one quarterback of this class in Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably mac Jones has at least a hold on the

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<v Speaker 1>job for the time being at quarterback, but the talent

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<v Speaker 1>level is still extremely high. They managed to keep Sark,

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<v Speaker 1>who called an all time, all time offense in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of scoring efficiency for the Tide in twenty nineteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not terribly worried about Alabama as a playoff contender,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they fell short this year, especially when Tua

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<v Speaker 1>went down. Of course, was the signal caller against LSU,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was mac Jones who led the offense against

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<v Speaker 1>against Auburn and the Iron Bowl. But no, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a completely isolated phenomenon of Alabama being outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff conversation towards the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get hot takes here for a second?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not usually something I do. I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>not an isolation. I'm gonna say not an isolation. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's why. It's not based on any real, real, you

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<v Speaker 2>know factors. But well, it's a hot take, So what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell? I know? This isn't based on anything other

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<v Speaker 2>than the fact that at some point the run has

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<v Speaker 2>to end. For Nick Saban has to end at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>sooner or later, he's going to retire, right presumably he's

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<v Speaker 2>a normal human with a yah. I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 2>normal retirement planned at some point in time. The SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, is getting better, Certainly on the eastern side

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<v Speaker 2>of the conference. It's elevating its game. What with Georgia Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there are a rising number of threats

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<v Speaker 2>to that crown.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you taking tonight tonight? Are you confident in a

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<v Speaker 1>team beating Alabama from the east in Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I confident?

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Newman in Georgia, Kyle Trask in Florida, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am more confident I think in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh, that's I mean, it's a more proven quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye okay, continue.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also really gonna steer hard this year into the

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<v Speaker 2>whole Scotty Cochrane thing, how he was poached away from Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I call him Scottie, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty Cochrane going over to Georgia. Now, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like, let me just.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it here, like a utility infielder, Scottie Cochrane exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are more threats to that Alabama pedestal

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<v Speaker 2>now than there have been at any point in the

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<v Speaker 2>last five years, and the talent levels absolutely still there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to take the opposite side of the coin,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to say it is not happening in isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>that it is something we will see more of over

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can be pretty easily talked into just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give me some sort of give me some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of tropical cocktail, and I could be talked into

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama with TUA being the second best team in the

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<v Speaker 1>country last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not you know, let's not let the facts

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<v Speaker 2>get away of a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen. I know, so, yeah, I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>disagree early on. We disagree early.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot here, Scottie too hotty. Okay, yeah, this one comes

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<v Speaker 2>to us from a good friend, Dan Over on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh yeah, clobashar.

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<v Speaker 2>He says Minnesota being a top fifteen caliber team in isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>not in isolation. So what I would say to this

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<v Speaker 2>is that the offense is again loaded. They did lose

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Shiraka to Penn State, but otherwise they bring back

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<v Speaker 2>most of their offensive skill talent, which is good. This

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<v Speaker 2>will be a test though for PJ. Fleck, because the

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<v Speaker 2>defense is going to be in rebuild mode, particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>the front seven. The schedule I think is favorable enough

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<v Speaker 2>that they could make another run at being again top

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen caliber. But suffice to say, Minnesota rising up to

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<v Speaker 2>win what eleven games this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was sup. Plus the Bawl, Yeah, was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge story and likely one that we're going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>more about or the prospects about which we'll hear more

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<v Speaker 2>when we enter into the twenty twenty season or get

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<v Speaker 2>closer to that again, assuming areas one. So where do

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<v Speaker 2>you stand on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not looking at this exercise strictly as a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty viewpoint, It's much more big picture to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know your mileage may vary. I am buying

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota as a top fifteen ish team and do not

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<v Speaker 1>think twenty nineteen was an isolated incident. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you why, ty because that's what we're doing here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me why.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how they replaced Kirk Sharaka with Mike Sandford.

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<v Speaker 1>Your guy, Nope, did a very nice job as a

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator at a couple different places. So he's calling the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner Morgan at worst, what the sixth best quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, fifth, seventh somewhere in there. Return him. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose Tyler Johnson, which is a big deal. Defensively, I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked the job Joe Rossi. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Bronuns so that Joe Rossi has done. He took over

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago as an interim and then

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<v Speaker 1>did a nice job with that defense last season. I

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<v Speaker 1>think big picture to me is you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>crossover games in the East, and they're generally going to

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<v Speaker 1>have no more than two really tough games, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how those powers are. I think they missed Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>this year in Ohio State, and I don't know if PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Fleck is going to wear thin at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of raw raw row the boat type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it happening in the short term right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I look at the West, I still see vulnerability,

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<v Speaker 1>don't I mean, don't you oh? I was always always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be good baseline pretty good to good Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska, Northwestern,

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin's always going to be good. But what Minnesota is

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<v Speaker 1>building towards and this is what year one of becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a successful team. And I know people myself, ourselves included,

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<v Speaker 1>pointed to their quarterback opponent luck this year that they've

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<v Speaker 1>played a bunch of backup quarterbacks. They obliterated those teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like if Adrian Martinez were playing for Nebraska

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<v Speaker 1>that week that all of a sudden they're scoring thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five more points. We have evidence that that's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>the case with the twenty nineteen Huskers, as good as

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<v Speaker 1>we want Nebraska to be, and so it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota with I think they snuck by what Purdue, but

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they were murdering teams. So I think that's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible first step. I think PJ flex a good recruiter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to reload enough on defense when

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<v Speaker 1>they lose guys, and they're gonna lose guys early, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose coaches that that all comes to the territory

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<v Speaker 1>like they did with Kirk Sharaka. I'm in. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota is building to something consistent in that nine win range,

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<v Speaker 1>and so with the standard deviation of a win or two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're right there. I think they are. They're

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<v Speaker 1>solidly in that striving territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, I'm there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not sold in Minnesota for most of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking down Auburn in the bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>Took down Auburn in the bowl game. The Penn State

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<v Speaker 2>game obviously is one that I paid pretty close attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got pretty interesting skill talent. You know, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>all in on rash Bateman. Yeah, so, I I am

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<v Speaker 2>inclined to agree with you where I sort of get

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<v Speaker 2>hung up though, as that top fifteen qualification. If you

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<v Speaker 2>told me as a top twenty five team consistently, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say definitely. Not in isolation. I feel very confident

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But top fifteen is a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>bridge too far, So for that reason, For that reason

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<v Speaker 2>only I say isolation. But I don't feel particularly confident

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<v Speaker 2>one way or the other, so I could be swayed.

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<v Speaker 1>So after if we're talking about top fifteen what before

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<v Speaker 1>conference championship games, is that probably the most accurate measure

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<v Speaker 1>when everybody has the same record. There are one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>three loss teams in the top sixteen, So if we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying top fifteen ish, we're talking about nine to three

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<v Speaker 1>ish team. Yeah, so yeah, I know it's Iowa, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and Auburn. I'll finish the regular season pre conference championship

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<v Speaker 1>week with three losses and finished right there in that

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen ish territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on, Okay, this one comes to us from Brian

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. Trevor Lawrence's down performances in the National Championship

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<v Speaker 2>and against North Carolina, Dan isolation, not isolation.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's a little bit more difficult. So if we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be specific about instead of North Carolina, because

0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Clemson does not play North Carolina every year because they're

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<v Speaker 1>in different ACC divisions, A down Trevor Lawrence conference game

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<v Speaker 1>and a shaky performance against a Nation's elite team.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm kind of there, which means he is

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<v Speaker 1>simply really really really really really really good instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are there in that it did not occur

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there is, and we saw it from

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson each year. And another really really really really

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<v Speaker 1>really really really good quarterback, if not great, which Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence I think is right there between the many realies

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<v Speaker 1>and great. I think when you look at the ACC

0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.000
<v Speaker 1>trending in an upwards direction, I like the Boston College higher,

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<v Speaker 1>I like what Louisville's doing. I certainly like what North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's doing. Miami should have a good defense should Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>crossover with them. I don't have the Clemson schedule in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. Maybe you can pull it up as

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<v Speaker 1>I as I babble, this was it Lageria. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think most quarterbacks toss in a clunker, and most

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks have a really tough time against defenses peaking like

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<v Speaker 1>LSUS and Ohio States were in the championship game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Trevor Lawrence is bulletproof.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. This year's schedule has road

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<v Speaker 2>games at Florida State and at Notre Dame, which you

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<v Speaker 2>know interesting. Florida State will have to wait and see,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Notre Dame one first week of November should

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<v Speaker 2>be intriguing. Sure, the other games are at home. Mostly

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<v Speaker 2>the other games are at home, so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>favorable schedule. Again, I think for the most part. For

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence. You brought up an interesting point though, and

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<v Speaker 2>how many guys are truly infallible. Joe Burrow this year

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<v Speaker 2>may have had the best season of a quarterback of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. He was virtually infallible this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>And still had stretches against Auburn that weren't great.

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<v Speaker 2>Had stretches. By the way, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow and LSU as a whole, whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>that was an isolation. But you know, like I look

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<v Speaker 2>at those games and sure Clemson didn't blow the doors

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<v Speaker 2>off UNC. They won the game by one, But Trevor

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence did not thrown in that game. He didn't throw

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<v Speaker 2>an interception in the championship game either. He didn't look himself.

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.639
<v Speaker 2>He was certainly a bit off climbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the gate against Louisville, but then was amazing thereafter.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we're so used to seeing Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 2>play to extraordinary heights that to see him not get

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<v Speaker 2>to that same level on the grandest of college football

0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>stages is a bit underwhelming. Like you probably would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken that performance if you were most other teams, even

0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.400
<v Speaker 2>though it was an electric you still would have taken that.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't go out there, he didn't lose the game

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<v Speaker 2>for his teams. In the LSU game and the title,

0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.919
<v Speaker 2>they were down, he had a throw right. There was

0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 2>only so much he could do. The North Carolina one

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.480
<v Speaker 2>was just they were stuck in the mud. Maybe looking ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, But I am willing to kind of grant

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 2>him those two performances in isolation and say that I

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<v Speaker 2>still think he's the number one overall pick in the

0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one NFL Draft. He's still the best quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>college football, and I don't read too deeply into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Next item, Next topic. We've got a fun one here

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<v Speaker 2>for the Pac twelve fans out there. Washington State versus

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA the Black Swan event of Black Swan events in

0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.080
<v Speaker 2>college football. So remember at the time that this game

0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.480
<v Speaker 2>took place, UCLA was very down on its luck. It

0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.879
<v Speaker 2>was not seeming as if things were going to go

0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.919
<v Speaker 2>in Chip Kelly's direction, and a large part they didn't.

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.439
<v Speaker 2>But this game kind of came out of left field

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<v Speaker 2>in that UCLA put up sixty seven points won a

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:38.920
<v Speaker 2>wild shootout game sixty seven to sixty three over Wazoo Dan. Yes,

0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>this one comes to us from Max on Twitter. So, look,

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<v Speaker 2>anytime you've got a game with the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty total points, I think that's sort of in isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>like that is not something that I see. Oh thank

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<v Speaker 2>you that we see a whole lot of But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess UCLA is scoring sixty seven points. Is that that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that occurs in isolation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Actually, I wasn't even thinking about it like that.

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it in terms of could these

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 1>defenses be similarly awful in twenty twenty and beyond. My

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>answer to that is yes, yes, So I would say

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that it's not isolated that degree of points though, Yeah,

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it does hinge on UCLA's offense, which I think will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to improve. So I'm going to say not isolated

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the wild variance of a season. UCLA

0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>should have it once again, they finished the year keeping

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<v Speaker 1>cal under thirty, allowing fifty two and forty nine on

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the road to USC in Utah. They randomly, I mean,

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess Stanford was down, so they had random okay

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.200
<v Speaker 1>performances on defense against not great teams in the PAC twelve.

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>But you look at what Hawaii was able to do

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<v Speaker 1>on defense last year under Nick Rolovich, well he was

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach, but it wasn't much. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I expect. I don't think anybody really expects in Pullman

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that the Washington State defense is going to take an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous leap forward with what should be another very efficient

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and probably more balanced offense under Nick Rolovich. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's much reason to believe in any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of grand improvement on defense for UCLA moving forward. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say there is a very good chance

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<v Speaker 1>that if we see an absolutely Bonker's late night Pack

0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.879
<v Speaker 1>twelve game with one hundred plus total points scored, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that it involves either or both

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<v Speaker 1>of UCILA in Washington State.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't have a strong point to counter yours,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just going to say I agree. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to move on Okay, let's go over to Reddit. This

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<v Speaker 2>one comes to us about our boy Michael Cunningham from Woolville,

0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 2>about Scott Saderfeld. The text of this post here Satterfield,

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<v Speaker 2>as it were, what did I say?

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<v Speaker 1>Felt? I like that though your mind's on the organ

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<v Speaker 1>strength and conditioning program continue.

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<v Speaker 2>What an incredible turnaround in one season from a program

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<v Speaker 2>in the dumps. Satterfield and Cunningham could be really special

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>together in a totally vulnerable conference minus the big Orange Tiger. So, okay,

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.159
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about Louisville. We're talking about their seven and

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 2>five season. We're talking about whether or not it happened

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, let's break down what this means.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's try to figure this out. Is this something

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<v Speaker 2>that you felt was a fluke? I guess is how

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<v Speaker 2>I'll phrase it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, what I suppose Louisville is hoping for Louisville noll

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a more southern Minnesota with Southern Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota in that I don't have Louisville schedule in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. But whoever submitted this says and claims

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<v Speaker 1>there are only two definite losses.

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<v Speaker 2>There are only two yeah, that's me. Two definite losses.

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked at the schedule and it I think

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty favorable for Louisville. The two losses that I

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<v Speaker 2>am just giving them right out of the shoot are

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 2>at Clemson's second week of the year. They'll fight them.

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<v Speaker 2>But at Clemson second week of the year, I think

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a loss. And I think at Notre Dame second

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 2>to last week of the year. But otherwise, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the schedule isn't easy, but it's not the kind

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 2>that jumps out at me and says, wow, this is impossible.

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Like you can win on the road at Syracuse and

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 2>at Boston College. You can win at home against Florida

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>State because Florida State's in transition. Virginia Tech at home

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>is a tough game, but it is at home, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's doable. At Virginia who knows, Lake Forest,

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 2>you can win that game. Can you beat Kentucky at home?

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Had a rough time with the Cats last year, Tyler

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>had a rough time last year, But can you beat

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky at home? Yay, you could beat Kentucky at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like, it's not an impossible schedule, so it's

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>there for him. Again, I am going.

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<v Speaker 1>To say that until proven otherwise, I think Louisville is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to stay around where they are. And that

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this was intended. It has notnything to do with Michael

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Cunningham and Scott Saderfield. I think as a combination the

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 1>fireworks between them and what that offense could be was

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<v Speaker 1>not an isolated incident in twenty nineteen. I think we

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>should see more of that over the next year or

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>two years, hopefully if we get that much from Michael Cunningham.

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 1>What I'm worried about is that defense was god awful

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>last year. Now it's your one or year zero as

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it were, with how low they fell under Bobby Patrino.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Saderfield always had a very good eye and had

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a very good plan and idea for what he wanted

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>from his app state defenses, and he had a good

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>eye for coordinators. And I think the Louisville defensive staff

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Louisville is capable of turning this into an above average

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.239
<v Speaker 1>defense and in that case seven and five becomes an

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>isolated twenty nineteen incident. But Mikhail Cunningham is down. I

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>believe both of his full time starting tackles. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what I assume to be open position battles

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>whenever we get to see football again on defense, because

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens when your defense is probably one of

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the worst I don't know, thirty thirty five in the country.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say not. I'm gonna say not isolated.

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I think there is a lot of room for growth,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 1>but there's no reason to believe that they are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a nine to three, ten and two type program, big

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<v Speaker 1>picture right now?

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Interesting?

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, love mcaale, love mckill. Yeah, or he's my boy,

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh now he is. Yeah, he's always been, Okay, just

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>making sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was an isolated incident. I think

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 2>that seven and five. I think the point of the

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>question is not seven and five. I think the point

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of the question is that Louisville had a much much

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 2>better gear in twenty nineteen than anyone expected. And he's

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 2>asking like, was that a fluke or should we expect

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>more good years? I mean relatives to what you believe

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>good is for Louisville, relative to what you believe good is. Yeah,

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I do not think it was an isolated incident. I've

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 2>always believed in Scott Satterfield, Satterfeld, whatever, whatever nomenclich you'd

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like to use, I've always believed in him. I think

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they've got something with Michail Cunningham now now that he's

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>changed his name and feeling more comfortable with himself as

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 2>a human. Yeah, I think they got something there. I

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 2>know the defense is a bit of an issue, but

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he knows it. Scott Saderfeld, I think he knows.

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Just think about Fieldy from corn Ty. I'm just going

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to mix these up all year, now, aren't I?

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Were they finished one hundred and thirteenth in rushing

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>sp plus and ninetieth in passing sp plus they allowed,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>They were one hundred and third and big explosive plays allowed,

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and finished overall one hundredth in defensive sp plus. I

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>anticipate that going into the probably sixties seventies this year

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bare minimum. So I'm confident as a program, I think

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 1>will I think they are going in a good direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I would expect more winning campaigns.

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<v Speaker 1>Next item.

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<v Speaker 2>Next item, Kyle Trask quietly being one of the best

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in the SEC. The respondent here from Reddit says

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't care less about the arm strength, but Florida's

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>offensive staff was great at creating mismatches before the snap.

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Trask was great at idfying and exploiting them. I would

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>also add dan he threw for twenty five touchdown passes.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 2>He had the second best yards per game metric in

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>terms of SEC quarterbacks. That is behind one Joseph Burrow,

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>who threw sixty touchdown passes and won the Heisman Trophy

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>in addition to the National championship.

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Wait, Kyle Trask had more yards per game than Tua?

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes he did.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Is that what I'm saying? Okay, I will go back

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and double check that, but okay, I believe that's accurate.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So it is. Yeah, maybe because Tua was not eligible,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what it appears to problem Tomatoes model.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are your thoughts here on Kyle Trask? I

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 2>will add a little bit more context and say he

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 2>is a guy that we definitely dogged because of the

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>arm strength.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it had nothing to do with his actual production,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>no ability. It was just tom throw Kyle.

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But it became evident as the year war on that

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>the coaching staff knew how to coach him. Yeah, they

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 2>knew how to use him, they knew what he was

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>good at, and they put him in I think, a

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 2>really good position to succeed. Completed something like sixty six

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>percent of his passes, which as a first year started

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>quarterback is pretty damn good. Yeah, and you know, Felipe

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Franks is transferring, which tells you a lot about where

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the state of the quarterback position is headed in twenty

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty for Florida. So they certainly believe in him. Felipe

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Franks obviously believes in him, and the numbers are there

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to support him as being a very good quarterback in

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm to try to interpret this correctly, the

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>isolated part of the Kyle Trask twenty nineteen is that

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it was very quiet and Tua did finish with I

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>think sixty more yards per game, but was just not

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 1>eligible because he only played in I think nine games.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>So even still, it's fine, Kyle Trask had a good year.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>He's full on good. I don't think Kyle Trask is

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>going to take any but he by surprise in twenty

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty and beyond. I do not think Kyle Trask's success

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>was isolated to twenty nineteen. So I'm gonna say not isolated,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>because especially with the landscape of quarterbacks and proven success

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in the conference, Dan says, referencing Jamie Newman without saying

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Newman's name, I Kyle Trask might is he the

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>best returning quarterback in the SEC?

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I think so?

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean Mac Jones, Jamie Newman will see what

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>happens in that Georgia system. I don't think it's anybody

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>else in the East. I think Kelen Mond is fine.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Alabama fans always seem to be a little bit scared

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of him. But yeah, I'm I don't think there's anything

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>underrated about Kyle Trask anymore. No, I not isolated.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree. I don't think it's in isolation either.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's properly rated.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, earlier in the year, I would have said isolation.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>This is a fluke, this is a black swan. But no,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anymore. I think Dann Mollen knows how

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to coach the quarterback position. He just does, and he

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>will find a way to coach him up, continue putting

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>him in positions to succeed. Next item, final Reddit item

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>here before we move to a couple that I came

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>up with on my own. Yep, LSU having possibly the

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>best season ever in all of college football in twenty nineteen.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>That is what That is what our topic is here.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I assume the intention of this is not, well, LSU

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>just continue to one up itself and have the greatest

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>season every year over year over year.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, correct? Correct. The respondent adds a little bit

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of his or her own context, saying they won't ever

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 2>do it again. Are back, almost all new coaches, still

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>the same competition. They're going to go eight and four.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>The fan base is going to enter a deep depression

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and honestly, that's about what they should do. Okay, So,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>like eight and four in the SEC West is obviously

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>not LSU standards at this point, given the fact that

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>they had such an incredible run, I think totally understandable,

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>given the fact that there is so much turnover, especially

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>losing one Joseph Burrow, Joe Dirt, Joe Brady, who guys

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>are gone. But is LSU back? Let me rephrase the

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>question as such, are they back? So?

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what we're saying was twenty nineteen with LSU

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>as obviously the elite of the elite. Was that limited

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to twenty nineteen or is this conversation we should be

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>having about LSU. Yes, these next thirty years of ed

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ours run coaching the Tigers, right, I'm gonna say it's

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>not isolated. I'm not saying they're having, you know, the

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>most incredible season after the most incredible season and so forth.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to say that he is going

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to keep finding thirty year old wounder kind.

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>That's that's German time, authentic German.

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, passing game coordinators to pair with Steve Ensminger

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to really take the offense to a new level, because

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>he just hired Scott Linehan to help run the offense.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So that worries me a little bit. But my argument

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of LSU being back to LSU, or at least the

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>hopes and dreams of LSU fan fans, the argument is

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't win a national championship without knowing what you're doing.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't stumble into a national championship. I trust ed

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Orjeron to coach LSU two more playoff appearances because of

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure, the staff, the ability to convince those above

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>him to pay for X, Y and Z, the ability

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to recruit at a top five to seven level nationally.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps some of the change in the SEC and the

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>SEC West specifically LSU is we'll see with quarterback, but

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to keep finding skill talent like

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they are always able to do, even when the offense struggles.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>They return the Bolitni cow forward winning receiver and Jamar

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Chase this year for I assume Miles Brennan, but we'll

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>see they have two blue chip backups behind him last

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I checked. And there is so much about an ability

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to hire, to maintain, to sort of install and maintain

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a culture that I think at Orizron has done at LSU.

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>It would surprise me if we're not talking about LSU

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>as a playoff contender deep into November most years.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The interesting I think transformation on the LSU side

0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>came from ed or Jeron recognizing that he needed to

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>fix the offense and being savvy enough to go out

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and find a way to do it. Sure you know,

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>like we've heard that same line year in and year out.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>It's part of the reason we both were very skeptical

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 2>about this past season being LSU's year. Clearly edwards Ron

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>figured something out. Clearly he spotted a deficiency, he knew

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 2>enough to go out there and fix it till the void.

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So at least in that sense, I think he grew

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>as a coach, and that should make LSU fans very excited.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>What they saw this past year was to some extent

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>an anomaly. I don't know if you're ever going to

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 2>have another quarterback put in the kind of season that

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow did. That might be an isolation. That was

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>truly one of the great seasons in college football history.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just not a reasonable expectation year in and year out.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And if you gave anybody in the LSU facility truth sarum,

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>there is not one person who said, oh, yeah, that's

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>something that we expected of Joe Burrow.

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>No e.

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>When he transferred here, we saw that potential. Nobody saw

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>feeling Hey, nobody saw that. You didn't even see it.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>After the twenty eighteen season, for sure, we saw a

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and Joe Burrow who was very good in big spots,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>but wasn't nearly the caliber quarterback we saw in twenty nineteen.

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>He's going to be the first pick in the twenty

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty draft. So like nobody in their right mind expects

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>that that's going to not be an isolation moving forward.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 2>But LSU as a contender is interesting. You know, if

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be consistent, remember I answered at the

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>top that it wasn't in isolation that Alabama missed the playoffs.

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's an isolation either that ls is

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>going to remain a contender because I trust an ed

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>O just like you do, and I trust in the

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>talent coming into Baton Rouge. I think he's sort of

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>figured things out. Now. That's the kind of coach who's

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be at LSU until they drag him out

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of there, until he he's like no longer vertical. He

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>loves that job, he loves that place. And if you're

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 2>an LYSC fan, you gotta be pretty excited about we

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>saw so yeah, I'm with you.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Something also important to remember when you know it's easy

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk about LSU's struggles attracting and developing top flight quarterbacks,

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>nobody does it until they do. Exactly, Alabama wasn't rolling

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>killers out there until they did, until they found TUA.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>And listen and listen, listen. Greg mccrroy a, Jim Mccaerroon

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Blake Sims, Jake Koker all fine. I think many, if

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>not all of them Blake Sims didn't won national championships.

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You look at Ohio State quarterbacks, they didn't have killers

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>until they did. You look at Clemson quarterbacks, they didn't

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>have killers until they did. LSU didn't. I mean, I

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like Zach Mettenberger, I do, but they didn't have a

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>true killer until they did. And what's going to happen

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.919
<v Speaker 1>now is hi school freshman, high school sophomore? Is high

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>school juniors? Watch what the position that Joe Burrow was

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>put in in baton rouge and they think to themselves,

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>huh huh. I could see myself having some fun there.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I could see that in the same way Trevor Lawrence

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>saw Deshaun Watson do it, in the same way Bryce

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Young Sawtua Tongue of Iloa do it. You don't have

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a killer until you do.

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>That is a perfect segue into maybe my favorite question

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that I've ever asked on the show. Part of the

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>reason why I think we've got the top college football

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 2>podcast across all the podcastings.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>We definitely are eligible to be named that, Daniel.

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 2>As you know, LSU want its national championship playing in

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans. It was effectively a home field advantage for

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the Bayou Bangals, right.

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite places in the world. Not effectively, it.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Was very rarely does that happen where you've got sort

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of a home field advantage for a team playing in

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a championship game?

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Right? True?

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Is this something that occurred in isolation or something that

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>looking out at the next four years of college Football

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Playoff championship games you could see happening again? So LSU

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>played again virtual home game in New Orleans. The next

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>four College Football Playoff National Championship games are in South

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Florida in twenty twenty one, in Indianapolis in twenty twenty two.

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>We can talk about that, in LA in twenty twenty three,

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and Houston, Texas in twenty twenty four. Okay, so I

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>guess the larger question is will there be a participant

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>from one of those states playing in effect a home

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>game in the College Football Playoff National champion chip Or

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>was what we saw out of LSU this year truly

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 2>in isolation?

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Well? First of all, the last item tweeted by a

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>confirmed person on Twitter was January thirteenth. I looked up

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>quote virtual home game end quote, and it is about LSA,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you used that phrasing.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>So twenty twenty one South Florida, so the virtual home

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>games involved there would be I guess the three big

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Florida schools, Miami, Florida, Florida State.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Miami and Florida State are not making the

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Tuttle Game. So this one's all on the Gators.

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's all on the Gators, and by South Florida. I

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>assume the game is in Miami. It's not in my

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>necessarily that close to Gainesville, right, but I guess relatively speaking,

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say, so this is twenty twenty one

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>for the twenty twenty season, yeah right, right, Okay, so

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.479
<v Speaker 1>this is early January twenty twenty one, not the twenty

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty one season itself. Correct, I'm going to say no

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty one. Indianapolis twenty twenty two. I'll defer

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to you since I suppose, and I know some Midwestern

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>cities are closer than we realize to each other. But

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Notre Dame, Perdue and Indiana State.

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Be Notre Dame.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>It would be Notre Dame most likely. Yes, twenty twenty

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>three Los Angeles UCLA USC. Yeah, I don't think you

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>can call Bay Area schools virtual home game, and neither

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Bay Area major schools are going to go.

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Arizona schools are closer than you realize,

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I suppose, but no, twenty twenty.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Four in Houston is the one that I'm I'm building to.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Will Texas be back in the twenty twenty three? It's

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M. Well, Texas A and M is

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>truly the home game, that's the home game of all

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>home games.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 1>The distance from Baton Rouge to Houston, tie, I think

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you are. So it's two hundred and sixty eight miles, okay,

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>four hour drive. The distance from Austin to Houston. I

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine it's shorter, but I don't think it's that much shorter.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and sixty two miles about one hundred miles closer,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>So certainly closer Baton Rouge, I think than Dallas, right

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>for TCU SMU Okay, so Dallas to Houston is two

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine so it's right around the same as Baton Rouge.

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say because of the number of

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana and New Orleans transplants that currently live in Houston.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I am saying that an LSU national

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>championship and appearance in Houston is a virtual home game. Okay,

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>so between LSU A and M and Texas, three teams

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that recruit at a high level. Yeah, I'm going to

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>say that's not likely, but it's in the realm of possibility.

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I think it happened. In isolation, This is so

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 2>hard to do, so hard to do. How many Super

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Bowls have we looked at and said, wow, we could

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>see it happening where it's a home game, and it

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>never is.

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>This is Isn't it going to happen for Tampa tom

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this year in the NFL?

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>No, they have no defense. No defense. Yeah, okay, so

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like so hard of a thing to have happened.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I just I on paper now, a couple years in

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the future. Sure it's a possibility, but this almost never happens.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I say, in isolation, I would love to go out

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to LA in twenty twenty three and Houston in twenty

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, and I have no interest in probably going

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 2>to the games, but eating and doing shows from there.

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a live show or two. Yeah, Okay, so I'm

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 2>still enthusiastic about the possibility. I have two more here, Dan,

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's do them simply Baylor's eleven win season.

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Baylor is going to remain a pretty successful program.

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I think twenty nineteen was a very specific culmination of

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the Matt Rule era that coincided with a lot of

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>change in the Big Twelve and the Bears coming into

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>their own. I'm going to say isolated doesn't mean I

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think they could be an eight to nine win

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 1>program under Dave Randa. I just I think Matt Rule

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 1>is special. I was bummed when Oregon didn't get him.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I know at the last second he decided to go

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with Baylor over the Ducks. And so I'm going to

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>say isolated twenty nineteen with as much as they're replacing

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, with as much as or just the idea

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that I don't see an obvious stud quarterback at Baylor

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>for Larry Fedora right now open to change, I'm going

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to say that was isolated.

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's isolated in that it was an eleven

0:43:55.680 --> 0:44:02.240
<v Speaker 2>win season, but as a comfortable Bowl team moving forward,

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that is not an isolation. I think Baylor will be

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>just fine. I like Dave Randa's hires.

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I like super striving if we're gonna use our yeah,

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>super distriving.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure. I like the infrastructure that he's put in place.

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Matt Rule did a good job building that

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>program back up, I.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Mean, we'll see.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 2>We don't know, yeah, and I we will see. I

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>do think if Dave Randa can continue building a top

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 2>flight defense, especially in the Big Twelve, that could serve

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>as a competitive advantage. It's still like there are programs

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 2>around the Big Twelve that have gotten better defensively, but

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it still is not the calling card you think of

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, you think of high powered offense. If he can,

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 2>in fact build a tough, gritty defense the way Matt

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Rule was building at Baylor, that that can serve as

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>a real advantage.

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So first of all, you mean the Phil Snow advisory,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the Phil Snow advisory, of course, yeah, I mean Dave

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>rand is gonna have a lot more than just the

0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>defense to look over, as you.

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Know he will. He will, but he's gone out. He's

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>hired a defensive coordinator who is very much like minded,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>but actually here on a mentor. Right, So I'm I'm

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>bullish on Baylor remaining at a very high bull eligible

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>level eight and four, nine and three level. I don't

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 2>know about eleven wins though, eleven wins is tough to replicate.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, late November Thanksgiving playoff conversation, I think we're going

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to have to postpone about Baylor.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 2>Final one here as we talk about Big twelve. Yeah, Dan,

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 2>as you know, we had a very popular Fantasy Things item.

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>You had it actually this past year. Guys being labeled

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 2>as having a little bit of Baker Mayfield in.

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Them, guys being dudes.

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Bill Barnwall, I believe he used it in

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 2>one of his recent columns in the I just saw

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Bill he visited the quarantine. Did he do that on purpose?

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, Oh, the little bit of Baker

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 2>may probably did right. I didn't plant that. So either

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 2>he listened to a Fantasy Things show and enjoyed it.

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Are just as a pulse for the football conversation. So

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to know as this particular comparison rose to

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 2>prominence this past year. I want to know if it

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>happened in isolation that it became the go to quarterback

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 2>comparison or not in isolation and by that. I mean

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 2>it will be supplanted by quarterbacks who are now compared

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to Patrick Mahomes being so you know, super Bowl winning

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>quarterback MVP. Will there be more quarterbacks that have a

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit of Pat Mahomes in them, or more quarterbacks

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>that have a little bit of Kyler Murray in them,

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>or maybe even Tim Tebow for a throwback. What do

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you think will be the go to quarterback comparison? Will

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it be Baker Mayfield still or will it slowly shift

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>to someone like Patrick Mahomes.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it'll be Baker Mayfield because that

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>was coming on the heels of him having a Heisman

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>year and then a really promise saying rookie year in

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Okay, then he didn't play as well this

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>past year?

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Right, No?

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>What about what about Joe Burrow?

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you could see comparisons to the the sort

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of path Joe Burrow took where like it didn't work

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>out at his original backup school, at school where he

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 1>was a backup and then maybe a school hired a

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 1>new coach and they I don't think Joe Burrow has

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that same sort of because Baker Mayfield was a known

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>high quality quarterback in college for so long that people

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>became aware of him as both a quarterback and as

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a personality. And you know, he's fiery and frisky whatever,

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>planting the flag that you know his teammates rally around him.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there is a specific all encompassing

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that is going to get Baker Mayfield esque comparisons,

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like not Kyler Murray, not you know, as Tim Tebow

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>did in years past. Patrick Mahomes. Maybe if a guy

0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 1>is sort of scrambling to buy time and has an

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>hop salute cannon for an arm, but even still, Patrick

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes is a pretty subdued guy, right right, sort of

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>happy and uh, it seems pretty chill personality wise, So

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who that would be. Trevor Lawrence is

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 1>just sort of on an even keel. Tua didn't have

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge personality on the field celebrating, but nothing crazy

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>like Baker Mayfield. So I don't know who that who

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that that you know that flag is that that has

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>been planted that this is the next type of guy,

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>This is the next guy to be this type of

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>guy on the football field, grabbing his crotch, planting flags,

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>doing what playing in an intramural game, just that type

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of over the topness. I don't know who that is.

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Who is it? I don't know who are the returning

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>really impressive quarterbacks or that are just leaving quarterbacks. Justin

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Herbert's not that Justin Herbert.

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could have a little bit of Sam Howell.

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's quite got it, not yet

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the heights of Baker Mayfield. But Sam Howell has been interesting.

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>He was a freshman, he had a great campaign. It's

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit of Jordan Loved, a little bit

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>of Yeah, exactly, Like it's really tough to find that guy,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 2>which is why I asked the question, has anyone supplanted

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield. I think we've heard about Patrick Mahomes, and

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 2>we've heard about others in the past. I actually think

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the comparison, if we're gonna stick with that particular formula,

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is Okay, we're gonna hear less about a little bit

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of Baker Mayfield, and we're gonna hear more about a

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit of Joe Brady as it relates to rising

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>highly thought of assistant coaches. That's what we're gonna hear

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 2>more of.

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I am. I'm on that same page

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm looking right now at the most efficient quarterbacks

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're either good, but we don't have a sense

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>for their personality. Nationally. We saw Baker Mayfield in the playoff.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>We saw Baker Mayfield against Ohio State a couple times.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't see that type of insta fame

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:08.879
<v Speaker 1>and personality recognition from these names. So I don't think

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a good off season for a

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit kind of thing. Fair enough, So isolated, Baker

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Mayfield is his own energy source.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right.

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what we're saying. Yeah, Baker Mayfield is

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 2>cold fusion. There it is.

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Well this has been fun. No, that's

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>all I got. That's all I got for now. Okay,

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>right into solid Verbo at gmail dot com. Let us

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>know your isolation not isolation plays. We'd love to talk

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>more about these.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a fun topic, and certainly, as

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 2>we're going to remain in isolation forever more, it is

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:45.839
<v Speaker 2>something we could revisit as part of a volume two.

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>If you're open, have you.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Been working out me? No? Yeah, going for runs or

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:52.359
<v Speaker 1>some sort of.

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I know it looks and I know the video that

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 2>we've I know it looks at but just it's not

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:57.479
<v Speaker 2>the case.

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, not the case I have on and off.

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not nearly as good as I should be.

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I would like to. I need to do more of it,

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 2>but I just you know I haven't been able.

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave you with this tie please before you

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>go on to probably more important things. For the first

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 1>time in my life, I am tasked with the sole

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>responsibility of a very small human. Normally we have childcare

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>for the solid baby, solid toddler, but we don't because

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of the quarantine isolation.

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 2>See now, the solid toddler, I.

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't know what I mean. A toddler toddles and sort

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of walks along and walks around, whereas the solid sun

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>only does that with furniture.

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Right. So he's one, right, he's a little bit over one,

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>a little older than one. So okay, all I'm gonna

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 2>say is nothing makes you feel like what you do,

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>what I do, what most people do, is less important

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 2>than we thought than having to raise a child solo

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 2>and not being able to go outside or to go

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to classes of the park or anything like that especially

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 2>for any extended period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there have been talks of stimuli. Stimulus is stimuli.

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<v Speaker 1>I My personal belief and this isn't because I'm doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>is that anybody who is a stay at home childcare

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<v Speaker 1>provider should be a no doubt millionaire because it is

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<v Speaker 1>so impressive and tiring and incredible and demanding that whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're a teacher, whether you're a childcare professional, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>just take care of your kids all day and that's

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<v Speaker 1>your job. Holy hell, are you the best of us?

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<v Speaker 1>Holy hell? That's all. That's all And it's been three days.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is your d this is your Jordan flu

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<v Speaker 2>podcast is what this is?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I essentially that, But also you know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a meme where it's like watches movie once and

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<v Speaker 1>then is suddenly fully that's how I am now with

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<v Speaker 1>with parenting all day at home, where it's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you normally do when you're not taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of your kid? Like digital marketing? Like okay, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't not that doesn't do anything? Childcare tie these

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<v Speaker 1>are our heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's very fitting because a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 2>find themselves in that situation now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to stay stuck at home, but.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but homeschooling obviously, kids are home from school.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at home, You're with the family, you're with the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>with the pup, whatever it's it's definitely an interesting time

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<v Speaker 2>to be live. We appreciate that you spent an hour

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<v Speaker 2>with us talking college football, listening to our madness. We

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<v Speaker 2>would encourage you. Please right on insolverable at gmail dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>follow us on our social channels, stay tuned nightly. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing dispatches from our respective bunkers here

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<v Speaker 2>as we see through this whole upside hope everyone's doing okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do wash your hands, Please do stay safe. Please

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<v Speaker 2>do not hoard all the toilet paper. It's still important

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<v Speaker 2>that we have someone with I'm good for now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Same, Yeah, I'm good for now. But just

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<v Speaker 2>stay safe out there. Come on back tomorrow, come on

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<v Speaker 2>back in a week. We'll talk more college football, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>keep you distracted from the ways of the world. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, for that guy over there, my good

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<v Speaker 2>friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself Tie Hill in the brand,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk to you soon. In the meantime, enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of your week, all your weekend, and again

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<v Speaker 2>wash your hands and stay

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, oh, get some sleep, eat vitamin, see things and