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Speaker 2: Donks, look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, the twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: of June twenty twenty, and it is time, donks for

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, welcome to the show. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I'm one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: You know me from many places Serious XM as well

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Speaker 1: as this one, and you know the gentlemen to the

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Speaker 1: conspiracy to my theory, my friend and yours, the one

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Speaker 1: and only Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian top Oh the morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. I'm the butt to your stuff. I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up.

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Speaker 3: A new week, no limits, Fourth of July holiday week

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Speaker 3: to people like you, Luke, who fought many a desert

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Speaker 1: Yeah except I didn't do that, but okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to wear morning combat gear like

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Speaker 1: a true loser when I do morning combat, wearing the.

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Speaker 1: I just don't care about those rules anymore. I'm forty

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hey, you have a nice weekend.

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Speaker 3: I know you normally have no time for small talk,

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Speaker 3: but how are things going in your life? Week one

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Speaker 3: of that hair cult you're holding up?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it seems I went all right. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if we did anything particularly special, because, you know,

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Speaker 1: the this week's episode of Dissected BC. I have repainted

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Surewin Williams, I like that. Yeah, you know, just

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Speaker 2: Imagine that it will happen at a fight.

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Speaker 3: It will happen with no three foot long Q tips

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Speaker 1: Don't you normally do that for other reasons? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: And what Pourier accomplished here was obviously holding served.

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Speaker 3: We said this was a quasi crossroads fight coming in right,

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Speaker 3: So what I mean when I say he'll get the

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Speaker 2: Offered to him first.

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Speaker 3: And obviously we know this, Luke, We know this one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the reality is there's just too much

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Speaker 3: Like they wouldn't put him back in with Habib this

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Speaker 3: quickly for rematch. You're right, but you could stumble into

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Speaker 1: Noway possible, Yes, it's possible he could do that. And

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Speaker 1: And so if he got another opportunity, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm saying to get to that undisputed title,

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Speaker 1: But I think what's either gonna happen is one if

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Speaker 1: to himself, why would I want to fight Dustin Parier.

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Speaker 1: I already beat the guy at one forty five. Now,

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Speaker 1: It's a different way class, it was a different Connor,

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Speaker 1: It's a different Dustin. Maybe Connor wins today, but it's

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Speaker 1: if Connor doesn't want that, I think the fight to

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Speaker 3: The run Dustin Pourier had been on heading into that

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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine how talented you have to be to

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Speaker 2: Well, said Luke. Well said indeed, and he you know,

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Speaker 2: Of all time. It's just the same. Look, poor poor

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know I love them women's straweights and the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so very quickly, very quilly, because Jay is cracking

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Speaker 2: Up to this point, Luke, look that was a title fight.

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Speaker 3: The women's fight, it was five rounds of fricking fury.

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Speaker 3: Out the jug Jouanna was willing to become an alien

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Speaker 3: There's a part of his style that he's almost too

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Speaker 3: bit more from Volkanovski right, who does the city city

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Speaker 1: He sent me to help, most sent you. He sent

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Speaker 1: you to He sent you to Hades, but he had

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Speaker 3: Here's what he proved to me that he's not a

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Speaker 3: He moved up to face elite competition and got stopped.

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Speaker 3: But I think what this build of this fight was,

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Speaker 3: this man's crazy. He's now gonna have his girlfriend with

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Speaker 3: So I think the greatest victory he did Luke against

434
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 3: you know, a solid out and Mickey Gall was keep

435
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Speaker 3: the train on the tracks. Remind you that even with

436
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: all that craziness, he's still a viable player at welterweight.

437
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 3: I think he's still got a lot of improving to do,

438
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 3: and he mentioned that much, saying I'm looking for the

439
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 3: right team.

440
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's obvious that he's had.

441
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: Problems in the past with management and coaches and trust

442
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 3: and all that, and he, you know, was spoke openly

443
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 3: after the fight about potential irs issues. So maybe part

444
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: of having just his girlfriend in the corner meant you

445
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 3: didn't have to pay those other corner men if he

446
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: had them in there.

447
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: But I think what he showed you.

448
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: Luke is is Look, if he had lost his fight,

449
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: it would have been three in a row.

450
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: He would have been pushed down on the card.

451
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would have cared from a side show standpoint,

452
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: but he's still pretty legit because we thought there were

453
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: areas Mickey Legall could have success against him, and Perry

454
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: was just so much stronger, better, grappler, better experience, stayed calm,

455
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: didn't turn into some crazy brawl. And while we're here,

456
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: shout out to coach Littori, baby want to oh your

457
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: clubhouse leader for Coach of the year. Come on, baby,

458
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 3: you're looking good. You're looking good, baby. That was what

459
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 3: she said to Mike, and you know she was right.

460
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe that's all you need, Luke. Maybe we're

461
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: done with this people daddy pants and you in the

462
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: corner trying to fire you up. Maybe the future is

463
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: you have in your wife on the right, a bueilo

464
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: on the left, daughter on the lap giving you a

465
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 3: massage during MK and letting you know, good point, Luke,

466
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 3: well done.

467
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: I like that. Oh the haircut's not as bad as

468
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Speaker 2: the fans think.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad nowhere to be found. Uh Okay. Here's

470
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: what I would say we learned about this one, which

471
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: is we've learned that Mike Perry is very frustrating. I

472
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: can believe that his girlfriend, who again seems like a

473
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Speaker 1: very nice person in this particular case, may have even

474
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Speaker 1: been like legitimately beneficial, which was I think Mike Perry

475
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: is probably better than Mickey gall even on a bad day.

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he had one, but I'm just

477
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: saying if he did, I think he could probably find

478
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Speaker 1: a way to get the win. I did think Mickey

479
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: gall looked improved in the stand up, but overall he

480
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: jumped to the UFC way too quickly, and I think

481
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: it's really hurting his development. But Mike Perry is very,

482
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: very talented, and maybe just having somebody who could be soothing,

483
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: calming keep a guy like that who is prone to

484
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: excess centered, maybe that's exactly what he needs. And also

485
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: there's argument to be made about how many different hands

486
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: in fighter's pockets there are and how it ends up

487
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: making them broke, and to what extent they could look

488
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: around and say, how do I minimize my life a

489
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: little bit where I still have the things that I need,

490
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: but maybe not too much. Of course, I would say

491
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: that the answer to that problem is really fighter paid

492
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: more generally. But separate discussion for a separate time. But

493
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that Mike Perry is frustrating because he'll go

494
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: and rant about homophobic things and he thinks that having

495
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: a sliver of DNA entitles him to say racial epithets.

496
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, that's bad enough, But what's really kind

497
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: of frustrating is I've actually interacted with Perry in person.

498
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: I found him to be very polite and frankly, quite

499
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: nice and a decent person. He comes obviously from a

500
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: background that made him, you know, sort of a salty

501
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: dog in the way that he is. But if you

502
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: just watch the guy compete, the thing that is frustrating

503
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: to me is that he obviously has a lot of ability,

504
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's gotten even anywhere close to

505
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: maximizing it now. Is that his coach's fault? Maybe is

506
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: that his fault? Maybe? I don't know. I've not been

507
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: close enough to the situation to diagnose. And the good

508
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: news is he's twenty eight years old. If he felt

509
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: like he needed to prove a point with this one fight,

510
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: in the fight that was again relatively speaking, low risk, fine,

511
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: all's well, that ends well. But the reality for Mike

512
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Perry is he still has time to really figure out

513
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: who he is and how far he can go. He

514
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: just has to get the right team around him and

515
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: really center his life. If having this person around in

516
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: the corner in this way for this time was good,

517
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: that's great. But what he really needs in his life

518
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: for people that I think love him and center him

519
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: and balance him and make him happy and bring normalcy

520
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: to his experiences. If they can do that, and he

521
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: can then take that energy from his personal life and

522
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: channel it to his professional life, dude, he might be

523
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: something way more than he's already been, which is a

524
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: pretty good fighter. He might be able to be way

525
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: better than that. He is naturally strong. I think he's

526
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: a born fighter. He's not afraid of contact. He doesn't

527
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: hardly get affected by pain in any kind of way

528
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: that most normal fighters do. I think sometimes he makes

529
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: pretty good decisions, but he just hasn't gotten anywhere close

530
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: to scratching the surface. Look if Mike Perry ends up

531
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: being what he ends up being, which is never a champion, Okay,

532
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: well most UFC fighters aren't. But I honestly think I'm

533
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: not saying he has championship future in front of him.

534
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it will be a shame for someone

535
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: that naturally talented to not ever see how far they

536
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: get by virtue of all these other considerations. To me,

537
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: that would be a bit of a tragedy. And it

538
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be that way. There's still time to

539
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: get it right.

540
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Speaker 3: Well said and you were on the verge of giving

541
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: Jay testicular aneurysms there by taking so long. But I

542
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: did enjoy that. Hey, by the way, from my interview

543
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: with him on the State of Combat podcast last week,

544
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: how about this nugget? John Jones played matchmaker between Mike

545
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: and LATORI set him up at a bar. I said, Mike,

546
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: what was the pickup line that got her? He said, John,

547
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: put our hands together. I scooped her up off the ground.

548
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: I said, Baby, let's get out of here. How cave

549
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: man raw?

550
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Is that?

551
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: Luke?

552
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: All right?

553
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: That's an eighty cinematic?

554
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Would you let John Jones fix you up with anything?

555
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm married, all right, Zoach?

556
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: You mean maybe maybe, like if we got your brother

557
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: together to make those burgers? And what about could your

558
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: brother cook the edibles into the burgers.

559
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: By any check?

560
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, my brother could absolutely do that. Hey,

561
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: very quickly, very quickly. Any other standout performer from Saturday

562
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Speaker 1: you want to give a shout out to? Oh?

563
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was so stand out I forgot her name.

564
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: The women strawweight on the undercard The Rousey Clone. K

565
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: Hansen had a hell of a no Me Now victory

566
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Speaker 3: in her UFC debut, Luke going in there against a

567
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: invicta former champion, even though she was favored coming in.

568
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Speaker 3: I thought it was hella impressive and it was pretty

569
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: badass to see her have had gotten cut right before

570
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: she got the arm bar, to see her walk away

571
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: blood on her face. What nineteen twenty years old, youngest,

572
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: second youngest fighter in the UFC behind Chase Hooper, bright future.

573
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: I had that was a strong win.

574
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the candae Owens fans, which always saddens me.

575
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, she looks pretty talented.

576
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: That was like politics from fighting.

577
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: Please loose. I just I've made a comment on a depth.

578
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: That's fine. She had that was it was a phenomenal

579
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: It was a It was a phenomenal performance. It was

580
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: almost exactly what Dustin Haslett had done to Josh Berkman,

581
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: which is one of the all time great UFC submissions.

582
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: So a very auspicious beginning for her. She looked to

583
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: be the real deal. We'll see how far she can go.

584
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: I think I would also give a shout out to

585
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Speaker 1: Tanner Bosser. You know, I'm not a big fan of

586
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Mullet's ironic or otherwise, but I'm a big fan of

587
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: people who look like Canadian hockey enforcers. But you know,

588
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: got a little bit of smarts on him too. Great

589
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: job by him finding an opening and then finished off

590
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: Felipe Linz from an angle and then you know, doing

591
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: the post by interview missing a front tooth. I mean,

592
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can't love that. BC's that's

593
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: my kind of man right there.

594
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

595
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: I can see that that was of when it was

596
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, it was a bad card on paper, but

597
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: it actually delivered. There were a lot of people that

598
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: went for it, Luke. They went after it right, they

599
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: got they got in that ass.

600
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: It was a good night of.

601
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: Fights, all right. It takes us to topic number three. BC.

602
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear what you have to say

603
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: about this one because I know this guy from the

604
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: kickboxing world. You probably know him from the boxing world.

605
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Jarrell Miller fails a drug test for the third time

606
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: in a fight, but if you count each individual failure,

607
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: it's his fifth time. He had been signed by Top Rank.

608
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: He was supposed to fight I think Jerry Forrest coming

609
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: up here, and he popped for something that he popped

610
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: for in the lead up. I think in durable is

611
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: the name of it, in durall all or something. It

612
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: was the same thing he had popped for among other ones,

613
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: which was also included HGH and EPO. He was the

614
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: guy who was supposed to fight Anthony Joshua and then

615
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: he pulled out and that's how Andy Ruiz got that fight.

616
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: So Top rank excuse me at the time, Matchroom just

617
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: let him rock and then Top rank picked him up. Okay,

618
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: let's ask he is undefeated as a heavyweight. He was

619
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: a very good kickboxer, by the way, he filled a

620
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: drug test there in twenty fourteen as well. Now I

621
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: have about the most lenient attitudes on this imaginable. But

622
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: if you're gonna cheat, you gotta be good at it.

623
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: He's a terrible, terrible pede user. He has no idea

624
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: like he is literally bad at it is his career

625
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: over BC.

626
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: It should be. It really should be. I hope it is.

627
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: And you gotta do a lot to piss off boxing

628
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: to the level where everybody just wants you gone. People

629
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 3: are on Twitter the last you know, forty eight hours,

630
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 3: from pro fighter to journalist to everyday fan, just like,

631
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: get this guy the hell away from us. Boxing not

632
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: only turns a blind eye to this kind of stuff.

633
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: Normally good God, most of the time boxing embraces awfulness

634
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: and this type of actions.

635
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Only you nailed it.

636
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: The reason why he's getting hate from everybody is not

637
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: only is he a freaking cheater, he's an awful cheater,

638
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: and we can't be naive to believe that, you know,

639
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: to clean sport except for the people that get caught.

640
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: But to see somebody with that much potential, right, unbeaten

641
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: heavyweight contender, a guy that is really kind of being

642
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: sought after as a lower price b side in big

643
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: title fights.

644
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Why because he's an.

645
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: American who can talk, and he throws punches in bunches,

646
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 3: and he's not necessarily a knockout threat. So he's an

647
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: exciting fighter who goes in there big time flurries, brings it.

648
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: But look, you know the problem is he didn't really

649
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: get that much of a handslap when he popped those

650
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: tests against Anthony Joshua. He Yes, he lost the fight,

651
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Speaker 3: he lost the big payday, he didn't get a year

652
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Speaker 3: long suspension. He basically got another job offer from top rank.

653
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: That's what can happen in boxing. You can slip through

654
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: the cracks. People are opportunistic, people don't care as much.

655
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: At this point, everybody's just like, big baby, get the

656
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: hell off of here. You see Dan Rayfield, a longtime

657
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: boxingbscribe outright calling him big dummy on Twitter. Normally I'm

658
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: not with right going at fighters publicly, but in this case,

659
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: it's like, what else can you say about Miller? He

660
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 3: had his opportunity, man, and he blew it multiple times.

661
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if he needs a better scientist. I

662
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: don't know if he needs needs to borrow my urine.

663
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: But at this point you're out of chances.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, it's ridiculous you pop.

665
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Speaker 1: If you pop this many times across two sports, Dude,

666
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Speaker 1: you got serious questions. You've got to start asking yourself

667
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: number one. Number two, here's the funny part about it.

668
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Speaker 1: If you wonder why for folks who are watching, if

669
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Speaker 1: you didn't get public, like why didn't he get super

670
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Speaker 1: in Big trouble in the Anthony Joshua fight. My understanding

671
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: BC is he actually did not have a license at

672
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Speaker 1: the time, so what New York could do was really

673
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Speaker 1: limited in terms of punishment. Now he actually did have

674
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Speaker 1: a license, I think in Nevada, and they might absolutely

675
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Speaker 1: hammer this guy, not just for this particular failure, but

676
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Speaker 1: for the other ones where he kind of skated a

677
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Speaker 1: little bit, so he could be in big trouble. The

678
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Speaker 1: other part here is top rank keeps putting on fights.

679
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: God bless him week after week. I appreciate there trying

680
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Speaker 1: to get back to normalcy. I've said, when you watch

681
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: it visually on ESPNBC, it does look pretty good on

682
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: ESPN and but the quality of the fights is so bad.

683
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: And here you have Drell Miller, who, if you've never

684
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: heard him talk boy, he can sell it. Go and

685
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: find the initial face off he did with Anthony Joshua

686
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: before that fight fell through. It was pushing and shoving,

687
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: he was tearing off the sunglasses. BC there were getting

688
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: it down, and you could see why promoters want to

689
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: book this guy because he's a decent heavyweight. As you mentioned,

690
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: he's American, and he can sell a fight and he

691
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: can do an interview. He's got a big personality, but

692
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: he's also got a big problem. Dude, if I mentioned this,

693
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you shouldn't cheat, But if you're gonna cheat, you have

694
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Speaker 1: a responsibility to yourself to be good at it. Because otherwise, Dude,

695
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: here's the reality about Jerell Miller. It doesn't matter what

696
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: your views on drug testing are. If you get caught right,

697
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna remove you. Here's the point, dude, how can

698
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: anybody sign this guy at this point and think that

699
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Speaker 1: he's gonna make it from training camp to the finish

700
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Speaker 1: line if there's even a modicum of drug testing at

701
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Speaker 1: this point. It's not even like U saw it as

702
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: showing up his door at six am. Some of this

703
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: I think my out of competition, but very minimally. And

704
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: the best part about this pandemic was out of competition

705
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: test PC. We're down ninety percent across the board according

706
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: to many estimates done by researchers because of all the

707
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: different limits about travel and contact and the like, and

708
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: this dude still got caught. It is unbelievable just how

709
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: unreliable he is. Top Rank hasn't released him, but honestly,

710
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: it kind of feels like if it wasn't for the pandemic,

711
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: they definitely would, and I still kind of think that

712
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: they might.

713
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's staying, no doubt, And you mentioned Top Rank.

714
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: This is bad luck.

715
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: That was another main event that would have been good

716
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: to see, and they've had unfortunately, about four or five

717
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: like decent main events over the next two months fall

718
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Speaker 3: apart in like the last week, I mean one of

719
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: those Ivan Branchick against Jose's paid one hundred and forty

720
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: pounds in one of those sneaky good.

721
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Speaker 2: Matchups you want to see.

722
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: It's been people failing COVID tests, their trainers failing it,

723
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: injuries in the like, tough to see boxing like we

724
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: mentioned last week. Like it's on the verse of a

725
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: lot of fights being announced and coming back. Hopefully Luke,

726
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: they can start putting things together. I want to talk

727
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: more boxing. I know some of those MMA diehards are like,

728
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't come here for the boxing.

729
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: I come here for the d jokes and Luke's MMA takes.

730
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: But uh I'll.

731
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Speaker 3: Love me all right? Step one right put who opened

732
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Speaker 3: the box? Step right?

733
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Who was the marine box?

734
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: Who was the former marine who just got COVID, who

735
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a top ranked main inventor. I

736
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: forget his name.

737
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: Uh are you talking about third degree burns?

738
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: Are you talking about No? The African American dude who used.

739
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: To be the marine, who was the man the former.

740
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: No such thing, but he got he got COVID and

741
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: have to pull out the main event. What was his name?

742
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that in front of me. But when

743
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: it comes to the when it comes to the.

744
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: Movie series of the Marine by w W Films, are

745
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: you more of a fan of John Cena in that

746
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: role or the miz given your background?

747
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: No movie franchise?

748
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Jamel Herring. Jamel Herring is the guy I'm talking about.

749
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, the Fighting Marine. Yeah, Jamel Herring. Yeah.

750
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Shout out to them, Shout out to that champ. I

751
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: love that guy.

752
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: That guy he also had to pull out too. But

753
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: don't you find it? It's like amazing. So let me

754
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: ask you, if Jarrell Miller wants to fight in Russia,

755
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: he'll be fine. He'll have a career there as long

756
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: as he wants one, which you know, I don't know

757
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: how many opportunities you get for that before the whole

758
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: side show runs out, but he will get one. How

759
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: many years? How long is Nevada going to suspend this guy?

760
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: You think?

761
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, a year, not eighteen months? I mean,

762
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: it's boxing. He'll he'll fight in Europe, He'll before you

763
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: know it, he'll be back. I don't know. I hope,

764
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: I hope it's true.

765
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: I hope that this guy's got a couple of years

766
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: to figure it out and think about it. But this

767
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: just tarnished his name to the level where it's like,

768
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's more, it's more stupid risk to

769
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: take this guy on for a fight that matters that

770
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: you won't see him for a long time.

771
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: All right. We move on now to point number four, BC,

772
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: which is that UFC commentator Joe Rogan on his podcast,

773
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: I think with Joe shilling, maybe somebody else, but in

774
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: any case, he dropped to hint that the UFC might

775
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: be bringing back the Ultimate Fighter, and if and when

776
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: they do, the coaches would be Israel Atasanya taking on

777
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Speaker 1: Paulo Costa. So the question that we're going to debate

778
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: here is is this a good idea? I have to

779
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: tell you, BC, I don't really mind it. I think,

780
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: and here's what I mean by that from the UFC's perspective,

781
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: which is, I'm not telling you the average consumer needs

782
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: to care. But if I'm thinking about what the UFC

783
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: might be looking for out of this, it's not a

784
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: bad idea. And the reason why is because one, if

785
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: they get to ESPN, which, by the way, their chances

786
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: of getting on linear TV given the dearth of original,

787
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: brand new content across all of sports. I mean, they've

788
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: never seen an environment like this, which makes the chances

789
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: of getting on TV way better than it ever has been.

790
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: But even if they put on an ESPN plus fine,

791
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: you know someone else will be paying for it. Number One,

792
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: it's this kind of content that is weekly, an episodic,

793
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: which means it builds on itself. Number Two, you put

794
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: the Anale's now on ESPN, so then that's more content

795
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: they could get. Number Three, there's no real regional mma.

796
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of at a standstill. They actually have to

797
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: pull fighters off the regional scene and kind of serve

798
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: in that role. We know Contender series is going to

799
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: start back in August, so that's going to serve in

800
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: that role as well. They actually have to kind of

801
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: like prime the pump, so to speak, to get that

802
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: side of the sport going. So I understand that, plus

803
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: all the fighters are sequestered. Now i'd be more complicated

804
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: than that. You have to sequester the crew and everything else,

805
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: given all the COVID nonsense blah blah blah. But it

806
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: just seems like if you're in a position to do

807
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: this kind of thing where you can deliver content week

808
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: after week, you can have a live finale. Maybe the

809
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: fights themselves could go back to being live. I don't

810
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: know if espeople want to do that. Okay whatever, If

811
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: you're the UFC, it actually makes a ton of sense.

812
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Yes, what's your problem with Thomas tell Us?

813
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: So? The the only problem is with all the stars

814
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: sitting out, do we really want to push Atasania versus Costa,

815
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: which could take place. I guess what August or so

816
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: or something like that. Do we want to push that

817
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: back to the end of the year. I don't think

818
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: that we want to do that, So I think that's

819
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: probably the only real downside.

820
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Speaker 2: Luke, don't speak Raa.

821
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I know just what you're thinking, and I don't need

822
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: your reasons here, Luke. This is their opportunity, as you mentioned,

823
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: within the COVID where look, they're trying to replay anything

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: that can get eyes.

825
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: They can make it.

826
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: At A Sognia into the star he deserves to be.

827
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal interview. He has everything, Luke. He has

828
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: that Anderson Stilla style spectacularness to him with some of

829
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: those John Jones and tangibles with a gift for gab

830
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: that's sort of unique to the guys that we are

831
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: used to, right the characters like a Rampage or the

832
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: talkers like a McGregor or Sonan. He's his own unique

833
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: individual and this is the right time to stick him

834
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: inside of a syringe and inject him on the American public.

835
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: And not only that, you would be hyping up in

836
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: an old school manner, by the way, meaning that you're

837
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: actually using a promotional vehicle right a multi episode TV

838
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: show to hype up this matchup. This is one of

839
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: the best damn matchups on paper you can freaking make.

840
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: This deserves that type of hype up because this is really,

841
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways the ultimate casual fan fight.

842
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: That jacked Brazilian guy who looks like a model against

843
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: this tough talking African guy from New Zealand.

844
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: Who can do I'm like, it's friggin perfection.

845
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: When there's not a scenario in which you can have

846
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: a Uel Romero Atasania type outcome, This is going to

847
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: be a balls to the wall fight that I think

848
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: you would want to prep new fans to get excited

849
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: about while reviving this franchise that Dana loves and sticks

850
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: by and says, well, pride never dies. So that's fine,

851
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: do it now, Yes, let's do it. There's no Luke,

852
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: you don't have a reason outside of I want that

853
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: fight now. Well, this just did as much as we

854
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: crab on Fight Island for the bait and switch of it.

855
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: This summer's already loaded with musty fights, like, we're getting

856
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 3: more than we deserve during this quarantine, given how hard

857
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: it is to put on one of these events with

858
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: people having the potential to fail tests. You have a

859
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: vehicle here where everybody is already sequestered inside a house. Right,

860
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: it's like a reality show. You can't leave anyway. You

861
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: can't talk to the outside world. You can't catch COVID

862
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: that way. Luke, Okay, we don't need masks. Put a

863
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: lock on the outside of the door. Throw those two

864
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: fighters in there. Must see TV. Remember that door that

865
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: rampage Frickin ripped in have. Let's get a few of

866
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: those in there.

867
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

868
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: I think the only question you have to ask yourself

869
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: is do we really believe that tough still serves as

870
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: the kind of promotional vehicle that you're saying it does

871
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: towards the end there. It didn't feel like that on

872
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: FS one, but maybe ESPN is different. I mean, these

873
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: frankly terrible top rent cards are doing, you know a

874
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: Dana White makes fun of it, three hundred thousand plus

875
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: on ESPN. Well, okay, that would be like double some

876
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: of the numbers that Tough was doing at the very

877
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: end of their stretch on FS one. So like, if

878
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: you could do reasonable numbers like that, if you could

879
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: actually promote the fight, I could understand why the UFC

880
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: would do it. But if they just remember ESPN two

881
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: is a higher rated channel than FS one, No, I

882
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: think that's right something like that. So no, sorry, FS

883
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: one is a higher rated channel than ESPN two, whatever

884
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the case being made there, they're roughly equivalent. So they

885
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: just put it on ESPN two. That's not really much

886
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: of an upgrade. You'd have to get the royal treatment

887
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I don't know if I don't know if

888
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: the interested parties want to do that. If you could

889
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: promote it four five hundred thousand viewers at a time,

890
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: maybe go forward with it. But if you're just going

891
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: to be back where you were, you're wasting everyone's time,

892
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: including out a signa, including costa.

893
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

894
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: The point of view argument is if it was a

895
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: year ago, no, it wouldn't be a good idea that

896
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: the look, the must see value of what tough representative

897
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: is gone, long gone, But this is the right time

898
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: to bring it back. This would also be the right

899
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: time to call up the people that produce mtvs. The

900
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: real world and road rules. Get a couple more Junie Brownings,

901
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: throw them in there and just mix that ish up. Luke,

902
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: it's time. The eyeballs would be there. They want, they

903
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: want real foot How many more documentaries can we do?

904
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 3: A freaking documentary on the decision?

905
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, I know I saw that. Whether they

906
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: calling it behind the scenes or backtalk or whatever the

907
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: hell is supposed to be called, I'm like, the don't

908
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: really have to REALI lift people burning Lebron jerseys. Okay, last,

909
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: but not least point number five. This was a really

910
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: weird story that kind of it didn't really go far

911
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: beyond Twitter in the MMA world, but I found it fascinating.

912
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: So it was revealed that if you are a UFC

913
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: rankings panelist that when it comes time to do the rankings,

914
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: I think it happens before the major fights. You get

915
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a cheat sheet. I don't mean cheat

916
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: in the sense of nefariousness, but rather like cliff notes.

917
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: You get a explanation of matchups where people are in

918
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: the division, where they've been in the rankings, what are

919
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: they up against? Here are the stakes, which all seem

920
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: pretty fine to me. But then if you actually read

921
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: the fine print, there's also suggestions about where numerically folks

922
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: should be ranked in the event of a win or

923
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: a loss. And you're like, well, that's interesting. Where do

924
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: these come from? We don't actually know. The people who

925
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: are on the rankings panels say it comes from one

926
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: of the major MMA sites. I don't know what that means.

927
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: And the question is, does one of the major MMA

928
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: sites do it just for their own benefit or are

929
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: they being directed from some other authority to do it?

930
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: The UFC I don't think. I don't want to be

931
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: clear here, as they've not been implicated directly. I'm not

932
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: suggesting that they have been. I'm just saying it's all

933
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of weird. It's really a sort of my point BC. Okay,

934
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: should people who are voting on the rankings, should they care?

935
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: Should we care about this. How big of a story

936
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: is this?

937
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: It depends how you frame it.

938
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: When it was originally framed, it was like, look, UFC

939
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: giving voters the exact way they should vote ahead of this,

940
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: right like heading in, you know, Shane Burgo should be

941
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: out if he loses. And it's like when you hear

942
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: just that, like when you only see the sixty seconds

943
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: of Robert Drysdale ignoring Max Roscoff's you know, saying I

944
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: want out, your natural reaction is to say, what the

945
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: f Then you hear the truth, right, you hear Max

946
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: saying no, I want my coach to push me.

947
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: He was right in this case.

948
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: Look, what they don't want is voters who don't care

949
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: or don't pay attention. So if they're putting out potential

950
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: notes or guides to let you frame, let you have

951
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: a better frame and understanding of what's at stake in

952
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: this fight and how it relates to the rankings. I

953
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: don't think that's a bad thing. Does it look like

954
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: they went too far in it? Yeah, it looks like

955
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: it's telling you exactly who to vote for. But after

956
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: the initial outrage, I did see certain media members on

957
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: Twitter who are part of the rankings crew come out

958
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: and say, look, and my whole time there, UFC's never

959
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: gotten back to me plus or minus one single time

960
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: to tell me that they disagreed or liked my rankings.

961
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 3: So if that's only set there as a template as

962
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: a you know, in case you haven't been watching or whatever,

963
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: then I'm fine with that. Look, I've been a member

964
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: in the past of things look like the Boxing Writers Association,

965
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: which those are fine people there, but you know, I've

966
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: been at the table when they like vote for year

967
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: end awards, and sometimes you're like, is that guy over

968
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: there even watch boxing? So sometimes you got to have

969
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: those things there just to make sure everything sound. With

970
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: all that said, do I really care? No, does anybody

971
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: really respect these UFC rankings?

972
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: No?

973
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: So like much Ado luke about not much.

974
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I'm a little less convinced. I mean,

975
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm not here to say the sky is falling. I

976
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: don't think the sky is falling. I'm not here to

977
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: say this is some major scandal. I don't think it's

978
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: a major scandal. Still, I don't understand the point. It's like,

979
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: first of all, the way in which they do the

980
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: rankings tells me that the people behind the rankings don't

981
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I don't know why this is

982
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: some kind of complicated idea rankings if you're having a

983
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: champion separate from the rest of the pack, so like

984
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: the number one person who is ranked is by definition

985
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: not the champion. The champion is separate from them. The

986
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: way it's always been done through the history of combat

987
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: sports typically is that those rankings serve as a way

988
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: to tell you who is getting going to get the

989
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: next title shot. It is a queue of contenders to

990
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: establish the order in which we are handed this out,

991
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: not just in a general way who I think is

992
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: better or something, which is really quite nebulous and doesn't

993
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: even mean anything. So number one, if you look at

994
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: these suggestions, they don't seem to understand that general way

995
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: of operating, which is really the only coherent way to

996
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: have a ranking system. Number one. Number two, I've seen

997
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: people defend it saying, well, you can just ignore it, right.

998
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: But number one, why are we assuming that there is

999
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: this overarching position coming from some narrator who wrote this, that,

1000
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: by the way, is de facto correct you can or

1001
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: or worth listening to, right, I mean, the whole idea

1002
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: is like, if you're putting it in there, it's that

1003
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be of some kind of value, But

1004
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm already telling you it's not a value, given how

1005
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: wrong the rankings are number two, if the argument is well,

1006
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: they're just supposed to ignore it, right. But does any

1007
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: other ranking system do this, like when they do the

1008
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: ap College Poll, when they do whatever other it might

1009
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: be for the Boxing Writers of Association of America, do

1010
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: they actually give you suggestions on numerical places for people,

1011
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: Because the appearance of impropriety here where it's like we

1012
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: could be favoring this guy, we could be putting this

1013
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: guy down because it doesn't necessarily do a whole lot

1014
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: of good for X, Y and Z reasons. I think

1015
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: it is totally fine to give context. I think context

1016
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: is really important. And if your rankings are in a

1017
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: position where you have to have panelists who don't know Jack,

1018
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: that's a problem for you to figure out. But I

1019
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: think once you start prescribing, whoever ends up doing it.

1020
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Once you start prescribing numerical position, the point of having

1021
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: the rankings in this stage is minimal. You are wagging

1022
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: the dog and people could say what they want about

1023
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: how rankings panelists should ignore it and it's just a suggestion.

1024
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: You don't have to listen to it. The power of

1025
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: suggestion is real. If people are too lazy to do

1026
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: their own homework, which is ostensibly what this is about,

1027
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: then it's going to have a much more profound effect

1028
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: to begin with. I mean, either these people are capable

1029
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: of making judgments or they're not. And if they're not,

1030
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: then you just have to have them off the roster.

1031
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: If that means you don't have enough rankings panelists, well

1032
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: then figure out a different solution to the problem, because

1033
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: just hand holding these guys is just it's not the

1034
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: way to do it. And I know people say, oh,

1035
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: you know the UFC rankings, who cares at this point? Yeah,

1036
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: I know, the UFC will give a title shot to

1037
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: somebody who's not even ranked. Okay, fair enough, I mean,

1038
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a handcuff in that way.

1039
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: They make the title loser the number one contender. Anyone

1040
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: who loses a championship, even if they get knocked out

1041
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: in the first second, remain the number one contender.

1042
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I know, Tyron Woodley. Tyron Woodley was the number one

1043
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: contender for like twenty months and it's like, how on

1044
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: earth could that possibly be? They do it all wrong,

1045
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: but there is still value on occasion and it even

1046
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: takes away but minimal value there is.

1047
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Is your fear that this is a tool to hold

1048
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: down non marketable fighters? Is that your fear that there's

1049
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: that this is like an inside tool of helping those

1050
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: fighters lose their leverage?

1051
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: I guess this is my fear. I guess this is

1052
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: my fear. There is so much pressure on MMA media,

1053
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: whether it's from all the promoters, it's not merely UFC,

1054
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: and again we don't even know if you have is involved.

1055
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: They want to be clear about that, but from sponsors,

1056
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: from managers, from coaches, from fighters to just tell a

1057
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: story that other people want them to tell. And it's

1058
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: constant pressure. It comes in every direction, and they are

1059
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: always trying to get you to say something you don't

1060
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: want to say, and you have to resist that. To

1061
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: have it now as part of the rankings, which is

1062
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: just supposed to be your vote, and a vote in

1063
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: secrecy to a degree to me is just beyond the pale.

1064
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, can we leave media members alone for once?

1065
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: Can we just let them decide for once? Where they

1066
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: want to go here, even if their answers are fucking stupid.

1067
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: I would much rather have a stupid, unsuggested process than

1068
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: this wag the dog nonsense constantly happening to MMA media.

1069
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: Would you rather have to wear John Morgan's blue shirt

1070
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life or have the schmo's haircut?

1071
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take the Schmo's haircut. I like that. I

1072
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: don't mind his haircut at all. It's kind of slept. Yeah,

1073
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'm too old to have I'm too old

1074
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: to have it, but I'd rather have it.

1075
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: By the way, Jay is, do you would think Jay

1076
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: has another job? This guy's so so in your ear

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Speaker 3: role today?

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's crack the whip here as we continue,

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Speaker 1: It's time now for your questions. We also put on

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Speaker 1: Instagram post up the day before the show where you

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Speaker 1: could put your questions in. It's time now for dms

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Speaker 1: from dogs. There we are. There's our animation which we

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Speaker 1: cannot hear. All right, so first up, BC, we'll get

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Speaker 1: right to it. From Suspect Monkey. If all champs coordinated

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Speaker 1: and decided to sit out, could that be enough to

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00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: force the UFC's hand when it comes to offering fighters

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Speaker 1: a greater revenue share. How would the company react?

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00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: Look, it would seem that all champs, so Luke and

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00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: I'll go first because I don't have a producing credit.

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00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 3: It would seem that all the champs would be enough

1091
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: on the surface, because they're very big names. But I

1092
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: do think you'd need a little more than that beca

1093
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 3: because you know, could UFC just create a secondary interim

1094
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: title belt until those champs come back to this side

1095
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 3: of the picket line. Maybe, but I think the whole

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00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 3: point is you would need a group of.

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00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: That would have that much leverage.

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00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: So maybe, you know, not champions don't always have the

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00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 3: most leverage given their star power. If a large group

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00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: with giant leverage that the UFC depended on for pay

1101
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: per view sales and all that got together to try

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00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: to make a little change, right, not to make a union,

1103
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: not to make you know, you know, guaranteed ten million

1104
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: every fight, but at the very least Luke to do

1105
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: things like we talked about in recent weeks, to give

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00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: a higher bonus.

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Speaker 2: For fight of the night. When you do what Pourier

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00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: in Hooker did on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 3: You know you've talked about it in all your other

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00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: shows in twitter of like, you know, the effort by

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00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: Dan Hooker to get whatever he made in that fight,

1112
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: or the effort by Emmett or Burgos or whatever. It's like,

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00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: it's deserving of more so should be the baseline for

1114
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: comin event, main event, title fights, et cetera. Yeah, you

1115
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: would need a group that large, but they would also

1116
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 3: have to be willing to take, you know, whatever whatever

1117
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: would come.

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00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: You know, if UFC stood stood hard, I think there would.

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00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: What you really need is you need small increments of change,

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Speaker 3: and I think it would take a stand that large

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00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: enough just the champions maybe, but you would need to

1122
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: get involved the people like Connor and those who have

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: giant leverage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, first of all, you have to be

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Speaker 1: careful about this too, because independent contractors don't have a

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Speaker 1: right to strike, so they would they could. They could

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00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: technically not take fights, right, so they could do that,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they could legally coordinate to do it.

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Speaker 1: So if they're doing it what they're doing now, which

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00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: is like Joan does it, Jones does it, and then

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: Masodol and then Connor and it's sort of like this

1132
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: unofficial contagion, that's perfectly fine. But they couldn't collude in

1133
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: that way, so that you have to be careful about that. Now,

1134
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: if they decide to have former union and then they

1135
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Speaker 1: get relabeled as employees, well then you can you have

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Speaker 1: a right to do that, So that would be different.

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Speaker 1: So let's say if it was just the champs they

1138
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: wrote coordinated blessed, say they didn't coordinate so they didn't

1139
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: run a foul of the law and then just decided

1140
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Speaker 1: to sit out all at once. Could they do that

1141
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: and what would happen? I think the UFC would still

1142
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: press on because there's always going to be enough scabs

1143
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: right to just cross the picket line. Even if all

1144
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: UFC fighters stopped working all at once, there's gonna be

1145
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: so many hungry regional fighters. They would just like draft

1146
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: the entirety of LFA to put on a card. But

1147
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: at that point, the press, the negative press, would be

1148
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: so overwhelming it would force the negotiation. It would force

1149
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: them to do something else. So just UFC champs probably

1150
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: affects change. But what you really need is the entirety

1151
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: of the workforce in conjunction, like to just stop the

1152
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: trains from leaving. Because if you just think about the

1153
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: UFC benefits from and what they look at flick for

1154
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: and fighters, it's they want to keep the train on

1155
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: the tracks. They want to produce content. I mean they

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00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: the thing that bothered them more about COVID was just

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: they couldn't get the shows out like they're constantly churning content.

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: So if you can interrupt that, yes, it will have

1159
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: an effect. But the way in which you do it

1160
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: and how long you do it, in the manner by

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00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: which you have made a process, they will make a

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Speaker 1: big difference in terms of how the UFC would respond.

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: I think fair all right from c war Man forty

1164
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: one BC this person Rights. I listened to an interview

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Speaker 1: with Helwani and Paige van Zant talking about the main

1166
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: card fighters talking about UFC two fifty one are having

1167
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: to fight at six am in the morning on the

1168
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Fight Island pay per view. And by the way, if

1169
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: you saw the interview, Paige van Zant was like, seriously,

1170
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: are you guys she didn't know? Are you guys surprised

1171
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: this hasn't been talked about more now? BC? I had

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Speaker 1: Amanda Heboss on my show, who is fighting Paige van Zant?

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Speaker 1: She did and she was like, yeah, that's crazy, but

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. What do you think.

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Speaker 3: We got some freaks on Fight Island getting it on

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: and they can't fight until six in the morning, Luke,

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Speaker 3: So what you want to do?

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00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: Look, you know what's most important.

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00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: Here for UFC is primetime viewers on not only ESPN

1180
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: for the undercard, but obviously the pay per views. So

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00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: that's an uphill battle for them that they can't win.

1182
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: It's part of the deal. So yeah, it sucks, of

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00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: course it sucks. But you know, unless the UFC is

1184
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: willing to go on in the afternoon, which wouldn't make

1185
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: sense when there's no other major sport. I mean, okay,

1186
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: I know golf is back, NASCAR is doing some things,

1187
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: but there's no other direct competition sports at the moment.

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00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: You can't miss that window. So it is what it is. Sorry, Paige.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Luke, they are viciously catching her out

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Speaker 3: because this is a fight she can't win.

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00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they are giving her this is what

1192
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: they did to well. When do you remember when Orlowska

1193
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: you got booted from the UFC the first time and

1194
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: they gave him jacob'brien on the prelim card. Now, Jacobrian

1195
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to win that fight, but they were trying

1196
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: to just absolutely bury him, so he had no negotiating value. Afterwards,

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Speaker 1: they're at least putting her on the main card, which

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Speaker 1: will give her some visibility, but it'll probably be visibility

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Speaker 1: en route to a bad stoppage loss. Okay, I would

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Speaker 1: say a couple of things. One, the fighters are always like, what,

1201
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: there's a difficulty in front of me. I'm too tough

1202
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: to succumb to this difficulty, whereas boxers would be like, look, bitch,

1203
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: we're partners in this. You ain't doing shit without my approval.

1204
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: So it's just a really totally different mentality that the

1205
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: fighters have in MMA versus boxing. If there was a

1206
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: fighters union, they would never allow this. And by the way,

1207
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: it should be noted the first couple of times, actually

1208
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: the first the only two times they've gone to Abu Dhabi,

1209
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: they had afternoon fights, the Kabeb fight and then the

1210
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Silva and Maya fight, so they've done in both in

1211
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: the afternoon. But you know, they got some coin to

1212
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: make in terms of all the difficulties they've had with

1213
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: COVID and the loss of the gate. So my thought

1214
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: is if they want to do it at six am.

1215
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, these other like prelim card fighters

1216
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be at four am. Just compensate the fighters

1217
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I don't think they're going to

1218
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: do that. So here's why they're doing it. Because they can. Yeah,

1219
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: it's the short answer, because they can.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to keep going down the road of

1221
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: this bait and switch fight island thing, because again, you.

1222
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: Know, it's just Dabi.

1223
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: But what a what a dictee's from Dana the other

1224
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: day on Instagram putting up a picture that Dan Octagon

1225
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 3: on the beach.

1226
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: We ain't doing that. You're the guy who.

1227
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 3: Made fun of us for believing you that we might

1228
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: do that, So like, just what are you doing?

1229
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I know they're still calling a fight island. Can we

1230
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: still calling it that? It's just Abu Dhabi? That's it,

1231
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: That's all it is, all right? From at DIP three

1232
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: eight eight six. This one is interesting because I did

1233
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: an interview with Submission Radio saying I thought for sure

1234
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: he'd say something after the fight. He did not. What

1235
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: do you make me see of Connor's silence? Excuse me?

1236
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: Following the Poirier and Hooker fight, good question.

1237
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: You don't know, that is a great question, because I

1238
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: do believe when Dana says I haven't talked to him

1239
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: at all, I do believe that. I do believe when

1240
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: Dana says Connor's made so much frickin' whiskey money lately,

1241
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: that there's even more motivation not to come back. But

1242
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: sometimes silence obviously speaks a lot more. We've seen many

1243
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: times Connor, whether he's you know, praising guys or ripping

1244
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 3: them after big fights, trying to steal back that spotlight.

1245
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: We can all imagine him sitting on the couch and

1246
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 3: his underwear with a glass of Witsky, just you know,

1247
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: talking ish. When he doesn't speak, that does lead me

1248
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 3: to believe that maybe things are happening him. Maybe he's

1249
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: in the gym, has his team calling, trying to figure

1250
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: out and I mean, look, the best thing that can

1251
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: happen for the sport here, Luke, let's be honest, is

1252
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: that Connor has the hunger to take a little bit

1253
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: less money either come back. And I say a little

1254
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: bit less because yes, there's no live gait, which is

1255
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: the whole reason why Connor can say I'm retiring and

1256
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: why we're having another whole issue.

1257
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: But let's not.

1258
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: Like discount what Abu Dhabi's presence is in this. Like

1259
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: obviously they're giving a large site fee. That's the reason

1260
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: why UFC's going there. Dana has said this fight these

1261
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: fight cards there are separate from that actual deal that

1262
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: they cut with Abu Dhabi over five years to put

1263
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: on cards there. So, in theory, Luke, even if we

1264
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: can't get people back in the stadiums by February first,

1265
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, as we've argued, you know, could you

1266
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: get a large enough site fee from Abu Dhabi or

1267
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: whomever on the international circuit to do this?

1268
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you could.

1269
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: So the best thing for the sport, would Connor looking

1270
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: at this, going okay, Poria looks really good right now.

1271
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: I can't fight Kabib right now, So I'm gonna fight

1272
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: Dustin in a rematch for the damn interim title. I've

1273
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: knocked him out before, I'm gonna come out there and

1274
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: do it again. That's to be the best damn thing

1275
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: that could happen for the sport. I don't necessarily believe

1276
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: that's happening, but I do wonder if the wheels are

1277
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: turning and we're not seeing it of just coming back

1278
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: in general and trying to figure out if and how

1279
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: it's possible, because does he want or need another like

1280
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: year off?

1281
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: No?

1282
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: He I don't you know, he's already done that.

1283
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: He's already taken the large gaps off to make money

1284
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: or rest or or let you know, create leverage.

1285
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: Like that's over.

1286
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Speaker 3: He's got to start getting busy if he's gonna be

1287
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: serious again, Luke about actually being a champion.

1288
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta tell you, like, would Connor want to

1289
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: go to Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia given some of

1290
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: the things he said about Kobeb and his wife? I

1291
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: don't know how safe that is, to be honest with you,

1292
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean Abu Dhabi is.

1293
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: Call Kenahan, call Daniel Kenahan.

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean Abu dab is from a government standpoint,

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00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: quite repressive, but socially a lot more open. So maybe

1296
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: that would be better. On Saday Arabia would be completely

1297
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: not possible. I don't know if I was him, that

1298
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: would be something I would explore. I cannot imagine that

1299
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: there would be no security implication from saying some of

1300
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: the things that he said. Number one, number two, the

1301
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: other component here is. I got to tell you, if

1302
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: you saw the news I think last week, it did

1303
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: not get shared a bunch. But remember, Irish press cannot

1304
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: name people who have not been They've only been, if

1305
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: not been formally charged with a crime. They're just in

1306
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: sort of an investigating investigation standpoint. We're even convicted, I think.

1307
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: But there were reports that the famous Irish sports star

1308
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: was not going to be charged with rape, and it's

1309
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: all sort of believed that that is around Connor McGregor,

1310
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: So we can't really say for sure what that is,

1311
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: but it looks like that might be passed him, which

1312
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: if it is, and he's really free and clear to

1313
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: just pursue his professional and personal life as he sees fit.

1314
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: The fact that he did not tweet about this, I

1315
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, kind of bums me out because it

1316
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: might actually mean he just was bored by it and

1317
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: he just wasn't interested in it, which means there's nothing

1318
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: about it.

1319
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: That's not possible.

1320
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: Though that's okay, listen, we're all I mean, your mind

1321
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: reading is no better than mine on this one. I'm

1322
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: just saying, usually, if he's got an axe to grind,

1323
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: or there's something that really want to make him insert

1324
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: himself into the conversation. He will. He didn't even insert

1325
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: himself into the conversation on his own terms. It was

1326
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: as if nothing happened. Is that is unusual?

1327
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a chance he watched how great

1328
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: Pourier looked and he's like, well, I don't see a

1329
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 3: weakness there right now, and I'm not willing to get

1330
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: into one of those freakin wars.

1331
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: Do you think there's that chance.

1332
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: This is a guy who, when he is in the zone,

1333
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: thinks he can beat all of them. He thinks he's

1334
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: what he thinks, he's the goat on par with Anderson

1335
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: Silva despite his losses. Like, no, I don't think he

1336
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: saw that at all. I think he's bored by it,

1337
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: or at least unmoved, I should say, by it, And

1338
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: that to me is bigger problem.

1339
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: Let's say I create a scenario which I told you

1340
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: he is willing to come back, and the money would

1341
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: be there somehow. What are the fights do you think

1342
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: he would accept right now?

1343
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so kabebe obviously justin for the interim title. Uh, Anderson,

1344
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this without knowing I'm gonna say Jorge

1345
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: maswital I'm gonna say, Jorgey Maswitell, Nate Nate, I don't know, Nick, Yeah, Nick,

1346
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: Do we think he out of soign? Yeah? That's I mean,

1347
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But I'm saying, if they offered it, he'd

1348
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: take it, Uh, Mike, Mike Perry, No, No, he's not

1349
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: coming back from Mike Perry saw something like that, something

1350
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: like that, A big ass b side.

1351
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: Right if I'm him, I'm sliding into the toy's d

1352
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: MS coach, sorry, coach Littori.

1353
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm stirring this pot up because that's.

1354
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: A that's a that's a fun little fight there to

1355
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: stay busy with Luke pay per vieway and event, I

1356
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: don't know.

1357
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say it was weird. It was weird here.

1358
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: I thought for sure he'd have something to say. Nope,

1359
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: all right, this is an interesting one at Rodriguez works

1360
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: with a z B. See did you tilt your phone

1361
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: away from your wife when looking at the new Gina

1362
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Carano Instagram pic? Or did you just share because you're

1363
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: all out of f's to give? What do you think?

1364
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: What did you do?

1365
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Luke? As I sit here with my HEMP infused KLO Seltzer.

1366
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: Can I pour one out for the goat Gina cart Wow,

1367
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't even know we can show that, Luke.

1368
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: More to come, not from her, Luke.

1369
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: This was a seminal, seminoal the right word Instagram moment.

1370
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: I take, Luke.

1371
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think a bunch of you

1372
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: guys are like horned up thirteen year olds, which is

1373
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: to say the following. I am not here to say

1374
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: that this pick is anything less than a ten out

1375
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: of ten. It's ten out of ten. She's a ten

1376
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: out of ten. She was great in the Mandalorian, by

1377
01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: the way, which is Pomdalorian. Yes, I'm not here to

1378
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: poopoo this at all. I'm just saying, if what you're

1379
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: after on Instagram is tn a dude, the rabbit hole

1380
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: goes a lot deeper than this.

1381
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: You know you're missing it. You're missing it's it would be.

1382
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 3: This goes back to the Showgirls discussion. Why would I

1383
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 3: get a group of thirty horned up dudes and fake

1384
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: IDs even on some of them, to go to first

1385
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: showing Friday Night of show Girls?

1386
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: Because it's Jesse Spano, this is Gina Corrado.

1387
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: Come on, Luke, it's not like, oh well, if you've

1388
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: got a cell phone and you're looking on it, you

1389
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 3: could be seeing much better ish than this. No, Luke,

1390
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: there's certain protected species in this world.

1391
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I go, I get it. I gotta tell you

1392
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: if it listen, I'm not here. It sounds it sounds.

1393
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like I'm bagging on it.

1394
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm not bagging on it. I'm just here to say, dude, like,

1395
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: this is great. But if you like this sort of thing,

1396
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: let me show you. I don't No. If you've seen

1397
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: Orengutang on Instagram, I mean he's got like eight million followers.

1398
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: All he does is shoot pictures of women who've lost

1399
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: dental floss up their rear end or Victoria Lombana or

1400
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Miss Dolly Castro or I mean, I could go on.

1401
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: Do you show up at Do you show up at

1402
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: Peter Luger's Steakhouse and be like, well, you know that

1403
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 3: gas station on the corners got beef too. It's you know,

1404
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: if you're looking for beef, if all you want is beef, right,

1405
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: I got I'll find you a couple of taco shells

1406
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: to hold that beef.

1407
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: Right. I think it's the other way around. I think

1408
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: this is you showing up at i don't know, like

1409
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: a nice sort of outback and then me being like,

1410
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: I got Peter Luger's over here. If that's what you know,

1411
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: if that's what you're into, I'm not above an outback.

1412
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm just not saying this. I'm just not saying the

1413
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: buck doesn't stop it out back, Luke.

1414
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: This is one of those times like did you think

1415
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: you were gonna wake up yesterday and this would happen?

1416
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: Like Gina Crown is just going to decide, you know what.

1417
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm called for today?

1418
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: No, this this is a seminal moment for a reason.

1419
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so back all, is it seemenal? Is that what

1420
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: it is?

1421
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: Look? Get out of here? Okay, I mean, let people

1422
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: enjoy their lives. By the way, I'm not just fantastic, I'm.

1423
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: Not backing on it. Listen, this will make you take

1424
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: your pants off and go touch yourself inappropriately and use

1425
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: the bottom half of your you know, your your body

1426
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: as an amusement park at the bus stop. Listen, that's

1427
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: between you and the local authorities. I'm the here to

1428
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: stop it.

1429
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Look, there's something about the way the

1430
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: hair falls in her face. All right, listen, I'm the

1431
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: lip biting thing is great for most of you, didn't

1432
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: work for me. You know that my weakness is Latin

1433
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: American women. Uh, you know, I just respond to a

1434
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 3: different incentive incentives. But listen, she's a ten out of ten.

1435
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: This is an amazing pick. And I'm looking forward the

1436
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: season two of The Mandalorian. So in the TNA debate,

1437
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: you just took a apparently that's fine.

1438
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's fine.

1439
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: I guess by default I kind of did.

1440
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 3: All right, I mean, and then last, but please please

1441
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: leave your man card in that lumberjack shirt on.

1442
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: The way on your way out.

1443
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: All right, listen, I will show you ways of Instagram

1444
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: and you will regret all of these points you are making.

1445
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, Luke, there's still Look it's like, yeah, yeah,

1446
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: I can go and I can go in the woods

1447
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: and find a deer, or I can go to the

1448
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: zoo and see this. You know, there's only twenty two

1449
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: left of these species in the world, and it's got

1450
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: a green tail.

1451
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: Like, come on, Luke, you know what I'm saying.

1452
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: You're overstate. You're overstating how exotic it is. It's more like,

1453
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, tigers are cool to see, but Joe Exotic

1454
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: had a bunch of them. All right, Uh id.

1455
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: Be Maldonado Line one for you, Luke, if that's the

1456
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: direction you're going on this all right?

1457
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: IVP Underscore three says, how do you tell your parents

1458
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: that you are in a boy band? I don't understand

1459
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: this question.

1460
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: I think they're they're referenced. Jad. You have that picture, handy.

1461
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure you do. Of Jay's no escape band that

1462
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: he tried.

1463
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: You guys have to understand we love Jay, well, there's

1464
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: a love hate.

1465
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: It's a love hate.

1466
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: Oh Jay, all of a sudden misplaced the asset.

1467
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: Jay has a shameless pursuit of fame. And I give

1468
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: him credit. He's got a great documentary about back to

1469
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: the future, well back in time.

1470
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: Check it out.

1471
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: But uh, Jay, maybe this is where Jay needs a

1472
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 3: live mic. I need to Jay, when you told your

1473
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: parents Lou I got little uncle Lou has has put

1474
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 3: me in the back of the camper. Uh, Michael's back there.

1475
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: There's a Lama back there too, and uh you know

1476
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 3: he says we can make it in this world.

1477
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Jay? You have a live micro?

1478
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: Is that illegal.

1479
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, all right, Yeah, your parents

1480
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: were not into it. I get it, I get it,

1481
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1482
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you tell your parents that you're in

1483
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: a boy band? Boy? That is right up there with uh,

1484
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm dropping out of college to join a hippie commune.

1485
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: That is boy, that is so I mean, that's just

1486
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: see if you you know, that's when you have to

1487
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: look at your parents and tell them I have failed you,

1488
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: and then they have to look at you fail them.

1489
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: In hindsight of the great you know, late nineties two thousands,

1490
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 3: not not discounting new kids on the block, but the

1491
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: late nineties early two thousand boy band TRL era. Is

1492
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: there any band that was redeemable, any anyone inside any

1493
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: of those bands that you're like, that guy was cool,

1494
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: but the rest of those guys they were they were

1495
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: living Because I'll stand by ninety eight degrees. I'd hang

1496
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: out with those guys.

1497
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: See, people always say justin Timberlake, But I've always been

1498
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: a believer he's an overrated sack of shit who has

1499
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: just leaned on the black artists he borrowed from from

1500
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: day one.

1501
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got a great artist on our show

1502
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: named Minietsche. Who's who's about to take Timberlake down?

1503
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Thank you so to me, he sucks and he's

1504
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: also kind of flagging, although he is. Here's another one.

1505
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: Isn't he married to Jessica Biel for now? Like you know,

1506
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: can't can't hate on him too much? Is there a

1507
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: one that's redeemable? I don't know.

1508
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm agree those guys were all right, Come on.

1509
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: The question is who made money and didn't blow it

1510
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: in the end? Did Nick Lache make cash and then

1511
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: like hold on to it or he did he end

1512
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: up being like a B list? Like, oh help him

1513
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: a celebrity and I'm trapped in what I.

1514
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: Want to hear about the tail?

1515
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a B list? Yeah, I see, here's a problem.

1516
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, Jessica Simpson got all the cash on

1517
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 1: that one. See, if you were able to make the

1518
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: problem with those boy band deals is that they took

1519
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: all their money up front. They were always bad deals.

1520
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: So now they got a tour in their late thirties

1521
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: and forties to make the cash off sentimentality that then

1522
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: they had never made back when they were you know,

1523
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: prime targets in their twenties. In the general number.

1524
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: Four thousand and eighty Luke Right Record Company.

1525
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: People are shady, Yeah, are still on tour.

1526
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: Uh, that's why Backstreet's back all right because they need

1527
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: to be okay, thank you.

1528
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: They have no other they have no other job.

1529
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: Or let me ask you this.

1530
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: What's what's a bigger town? Old town could hang?

1531
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: What's a bigger failure being in a boy band or

1532
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: getting a face tattoo? What do you think?

1533
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: You know?

1534
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 4: Why?

1535
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 3: I want to ask Mike Perry in December? Actually I said,

1536
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: how you know you got a lot of tats? How

1537
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 3: bad do the face once hurt? And you know relative

1538
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: to pain that you suffer an mma? His response was,

1539
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't had feeling in my face

1540
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 3: in years.

1541
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: Dude, he's a hard charger man. People clown Mike Perry

1542
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: because he says, you know, crazy things, But that dude

1543
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: is another level of tough bro. He is. He is

1544
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: out there. I'll say, uh, I'll say, getting a face

1545
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: tattoo is less reprehensible than Jay's rue hipnol infused boy

1546
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: band you Know No Escape, which is really just sort

1547
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: of ominous and weird for a name.

1548
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: He had no master tapes of their recordings.

1549
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: Too.

1550
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 3: I bet you there were no recordings. I bet you, yeah,

1551
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: yeah it was you know this may have yeah. Okay,

1552
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: all right, let's keep rolling here before before it gets grossed.

1553
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: All right, with that in mind, b see steer the show,

1554
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: good sirt your chance.

1555
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: Oh hey, hey hey, look you know what we do here?

1556
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 2: Play the intro there, Jake, go ahead.

1557
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 3: Yes, we scour the globe for the highs and lows,

1558
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,839
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, and the ugly, and combat sports

1559
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: and beyond.

1560
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: It's have you seen this ship this ish, Luke?

1561
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: We always start out with legitimate combat sports and legitimate

1562
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: one way tickets to hell, Luke, have you.

1563
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: Seen this ish? From a leg lock?

1564
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what country is this happening here, but

1565
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: we got a backfish ko from the man being leg locked.

1566
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: Vallely Vadim Rolic is the man who could submit here,

1567
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: Ivan Buktoriev has him in there. Luke, it's tap time,

1568
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: no go to sleep, leave your soul.

1569
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: And that was terrible. That was it. It wasn't a

1570
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: heel hook. That was a terrible straight ankle lock, which

1571
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: is just it's just it doesn't it's just a pain submission.

1572
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually break anything.

1573
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 2: See in pro wrestling.

1574
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: If you're getting figure forward leg lock, all you have

1575
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 3: to do is roll over, and that reverses the pain

1576
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: on them. He decided, Luke, I'll just backfist him. I

1577
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: mean that was kind of a weak ko.

1578
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Right, that's super weak. But dude, but hey, listen, if

1579
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: it works, it works. That is wild man. Oh acb.

1580
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,959
Speaker 1: Of course it's somewhere in uh in eastern Europe.

1581
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Baltic region. Maybe, all right, let's roll on here,

1582
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 3: let's go kickboxing.

1583
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: They they the.

1584
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: Baltic states are Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

1585
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: Well that's where that's where my people are from. This

1586
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: is a sipmon Chai. He got need in the balls

1587
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 3: and his response, Luke, was to chop down the tree.

1588
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: How vicious are these leg kicks, Luke?

1589
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, those are the Rob came in across both thighs.

1590
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: Remember Rob came in when he was training Brandon Vera.

1591
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: So watch this. It's in front of both thighs like

1592
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: that one.

1593
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, I was gonna say he's gonna have to

1594
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: squat to pee the rest of his life, but he

1595
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: ain't squatting with those injuries.

1596
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: Luke. Oh dude, that is You can see the back

1597
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: of the white dude's leg too. He was getting You

1598
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: know what do they call him Thailand for wrong? They

1599
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: call the white outsiders for wrong taiwan on.

1600
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1601
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: All right, well this wasn't the fight of the lead

1602
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 3: the week, Luke. The fight of the week took place

1603
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: on a street corner. Somebody call him hack saw Jim

1604
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: duggan Ho. Hey, what the hell is this? Is this

1605
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: in on the list? Oh sorry, Luke, this is a

1606
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: somebody's freestyling here.

1607
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: What's happening here?

1608
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens. All right, someone's trying his elbow.

1609
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's Mo Thai double ko.

1610
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: Look at the referee, double county, look at him. He's

1611
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: look is that guy a referee or is he conducting

1612
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: a symphony.

1613
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: We have a rule on this show. If there's a

1614
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: double knockdown or a double ko, you make the show.

1615
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: I forgot I have this on there, mouy Thai in

1616
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: the house. Look at this, and this is great.

1617
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: The white guy has an elbow, he throws, and then

1618
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,959
Speaker 1: the black dude just has a punch. Oh that is brilliant.

1619
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: Look at this. This is great. Bloom watch. This is

1620
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: where the clarinets come in and now the old bo.

1621
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: I think if you stand up, you win. That's how

1622
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: that works. Yeah.

1623
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: By the way, you and I were both cage side

1624
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 3: for Bellator MSG. You do remember, I'm sorry, belt or NYC.

1625
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: You do remember Mitri and Fador.

1626
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: That was a moment, Luke, that was a moment in time.

1627
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,879
Speaker 1: Bro. All right, Yes I was not kside for Bellator

1628
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: Mono sodium glutamate, but yes, I will thank you.

1629
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: It's my favorite additive. All right, let's go to the

1630
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: street corner. This is your fight of the week.

1631
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: Luke.

1632
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh did you see this?

1633
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: Ish?

1634
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 3: There's two uh well, at least one bum, at least

1635
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: one vagabond, and we're we got it, we got it.

1636
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: Yes, the white guy does it. All lives matter, don't

1637
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: it's two by.

1638
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: Four top for that partition, Luke.

1639
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: Oh god, convenience score guy walking him down with the

1640
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 3: two by four.

1641
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

1642
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's like all as matter bottom.

1643
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 3: Oh oh god, it looks like it looks very Philadelphia.

1644
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: Like to me. I don't know.

1645
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 1: Oh that is just great.

1646
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: That's actually your street, Luke.

1647
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 1: That's great.

1648
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: I can watch this all day. Hey, let's go to

1649
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: the tailgate. Hey, look, you ever been partying at the

1650
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: tailgate before a game. You know, you're you're blowing bubbles,

1651
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 3: you're doing shots, and then a fan man flies in

1652
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 3: on nowhere, it hits the back of the bumper.

1653
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: What the hell's going on here?

1654
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: Dude? What the fuck this is in Russia? I don't know.

1655
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: Look at the account is Look at this Russian?

1656
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Wow, there were kids on hand there, Luke. That's uh.

1657
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: He set off the alarm too, That's that's fantastic, Luke.

1658
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: It does bring to mind a classic moment in combat

1659
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: sports history. You know where I'm going here right? Oh,

1660
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: with the Galada fight no Riddick Bow Evander Holyfield part duh?

1661
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: Do we have do we have footage of that?

1662
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: You remember when what was the guy's name?

1663
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: When he just he just parachuted in Oh yeah, when

1664
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: fan man landed and then got the ish beaten out

1665
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: of him by Riddick Bow's extended team.

1666
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: You got.

1667
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean, in hindsight, Luke, boxing's bizarre enough, this was

1668
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: like the biggest, most important fight of the year. I mean,

1669
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 3: this is like the rematch for the heavyweight championship between

1670
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 3: two Hall of famers, and this guy's like, no, let

1671
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: me just fly in, let me just let me just

1672
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: interrupt this and then looke.

1673
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: They beat them. They beat the dog out of him,

1674
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: They beat the tar out of this man.

1675
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is uh again. I'm gonna say I'm

1676
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: tougher than RIDDICKBC because he lasted one week at Marine

1677
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: Corps boot camp. I lasted thirteen. So it's one point

1678
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: that out.

1679
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: Wow, he would fight you for very little money if

1680
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: you really want to test that in the ring. I

1681
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: remember he had that really sad kickboxing video.

1682
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: By the way. I remember news.

1683
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: Reports after this they were like, no one was injured

1684
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: in the fan man incident except for the fan man himself.

1685
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 2: He was badly beaten and hospitalized.

1686
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, who took an epic beating.

1687
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: Yes all right, Hey, shout out to people, Luke, like

1688
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: people I respect, like Showtimes Brian Custer, who got me

1689
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 3: to finally man up last year right when I turned

1690
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: forty turned forty one and get that prostate exam.

1691
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1692
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: So, Luke, friends, don't let friends miss out on prostate exams,

1693
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: because it's important, including this friend. In our next video, Jay,

1694
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: if you can hit that button already, there there you go,

1695
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 3: there you go. I don't know what's going on or

1696
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 3: where it's happening, but we think we got an oil

1697
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: change here online one.

1698
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look what is happening there? At least

1699
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: at least loop them up.

1700
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: First, Luke, Is this the dude that like, what's the

1701
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: wine glasses in front of his dong? No?

1702
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: I love that guy though.

1703
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 3: That guy is a regular on this show, but uh, yikes,

1704
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 3: that is a surprised Luke. Surprised yep, Okay, he's not

1705
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: happy too. He's going after him. Luke, what what what

1706
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 3: would you do with a friend that did that to you?

1707
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, BC. Have you tried and I don't

1708
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: know about it or something? Or maybe I don't. I don't.

1709
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm not really into that stuff, Luke. I'm more of

1710
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: an Instagram.

1711
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: You literally started the show by saying you were the

1712
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: butt to my stuff. You are quite obviously into it.

1713
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: I get mislabeled often on the show. Looke, believe me,

1714
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: believe me.

1715
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, let's go from here. Check out out Buolo

1716
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 3: this week, Luke. I know there's a lot of stuff

1717
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 3: going on with COVID. Should we wear masks? Blelo trying

1718
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: to get into this Florida Walmart. They no mask and

1719
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: they are not having it all. God, somebody, so can

1720
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 3: we get a porter to iole want to scoop up

1721
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: the old guy?

1722
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: Luke, he is not happy.

1723
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,959
Speaker 1: That's it. He's just throw on his face one time.

1724
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: And they are still telling him, sir, you need you

1725
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: need to wear a mask. I'm sorry that that the

1726
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 3: COVID cases are rising. Luke Thomas is out of his mind. Sir,

1727
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sorry.

1728
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to.

1729
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure out of I'm sure I'm out of my

1730
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: mind with COVID now worse of an outbreak as it

1731
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: was before in eighties.

1732
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: Like I just my laxatives. Look at a boila, go

1733
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:20,879
Speaker 3: after it right now, Luke.

1734
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 2: You okay with this?

1735
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: Bro? This is just an example of how fucking stupid

1736
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: some Americans are, that this is so hard for them, unbelievable.

1737
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: But this isn't even the best one. You missed, like

1738
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: the best, like anti mask loser moron. Well yeah, a

1739
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: lot of Karen videos of ladies, you know, screaming and

1740
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: shouting about their breathing problems when they're they're major problem

1741
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: is either a stupid or be morbidly obese.

1742
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: Well yeah, we don't often get into politics on this show.

1743
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: Luke. You it's the best BC. That's the best part.

1744
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: It's not really political. Just wear your fucking mask. It's

1745
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: not that hard.

1746
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm I'm Luke.

1747
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm generally I don't believe the left or the right,

1748
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: you know me. I'm a political So when you see

1749
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: the Clay Travis types on the other side of you, Luke,

1750
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: who are saying like.

1751
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: This is just misreported. Yes the numbers are up, but

1752
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: they're all young people.

1753
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: The death Lay Travis also thought there would be only

1754
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand deaths total in back in March.

1755
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: Not a gentleman I would listen to if I were you.

1756
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: I the answer is what I'm saying is in the middle,

1757
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 3: somewhere between Clay and Luke.

1758
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: Right in the middle. Okay, that's where.

1759
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm not the I'm not the opposite of Clay. I

1760
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: know you'd like to believe I adopt some kind of

1761
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: extreme position here. I don't. I operate the position that

1762
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: the epidemiologists operate, which is this shit's gonna be with

1763
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: us for a long time. If fucking morons like this

1764
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: just don't mask up, all you gotta do is mask up, bro,

1765
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: super simple solution. We can all go back to normal.

1766
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: Okay, call up, Call up, you're a buelo, mask him up.

1767
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's roll on. Let's go to the MMA cage.

1768
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get an aggressive referee looking to save people's lives,

1769
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: but sometimes they jump in, Luke a little bit too late.

1770
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 2: Hey, a nice idea of there, guy, but we're not

1771
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna be needed here. What is this, Luke?

1772
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: What come on.

1773
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: Dude, the referee needs saving from the guy who knocked

1774
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: out the other guy.

1775
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, look at the guy with a knockout.

1776
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, all right, let's yep, the fight's over,

1777
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: thank you Jesus Christ.

1778
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, hey, let's I think he's trying to say.

1779
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 3: He's trying to stop further punishment from Dan Henderson, like

1780
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: UFC one hundred shots, you know.

1781
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough?

1782
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Luke, let's let's mix the two

1783
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 3: of your favorite things to mix together, parenting and alcohol.

1784
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't always go right here, Luke, here's a toast.

1785
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh come on guy, come on, dad, this

1786
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: is I mean, we're gonna shotgun some beers.

1787
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: While uh ue is child abuse? What is he? Yeah?

1788
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that your brother? Oh my god, yeah, Matt?

1789
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to Matt Thomas? All right, I'm gonna

1790
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: get him on this show. I'm going to get some answer.

1791
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: No, you, you absolutely will not get him on the show.

1792
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: He will not listen to you if you think if

1793
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: you think I'm ornery? Whoa?

1794
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay?

1795
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: Uh so uh you know dad with the papoose here

1796
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 3: not a good idea. But how about there's other ways

1797
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 3: to carry around your children, Luke, check out this guy.

1798
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: You know you finish an eighteen pack? You got an

1799
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 2: empty box? Why not? Just all right? We're we're all

1800
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: out of order here, We're a lot of order.

1801
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: All right.

1802
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, hey this was a uh look, this was.

1803
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, this was a different one altogether here, Luke,

1804
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: you gotta be careful.

1805
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: You know this is the new trend.

1806
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: You just you just bounce the basketball with alcohol on top.

1807
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: What's the goal? The goal is to catch it and

1808
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 2: drink it?

1809
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 3: Right?

1810
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a partial birth abortion? We just

1811
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: watched what it was.

1812
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 3: Let's say you might have around and get pregnant doing this.

1813
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 3: But maybe you're right, maybe it's the other way. Luke,

1814
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 3: Oh wow, is.

1815
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: This like is this like a backwoods planned parenthood? What

1816
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: are we looking at here?

1817
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: That that's got our that's assault brother, Yes, that's.

1818
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: Yea. And look at look at Amy Schumer's hair here?

1819
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: What is she? Fu?

1820
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you doing here?

1821
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1822
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if we have that other one here?

1823
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: I should have checked these. Let's just keep rolling here.

1824
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: We love drunk chicks. Drunk chicks make it on this

1825
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: show a lot, Luke. Wait, let me not set this up.

1826
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: You know what the worst combination is drunk chicken in

1827
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 3: action is Luke, let.

1828
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: Me ask you a question. You're cant a hangout during that?

1829
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: Dude? What the fuck? Wow?

1830
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: You got to be careful.

1831
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: There have you done? Have you done the axe throwing thing?

1832
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: I have not. There's a lot of things I've done drunk,

1833
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: but I'm a little nervous of that, Luke.

1834
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: So they opened up one right before the old pandemic hit,

1835
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: so I never got a chance to go. Uh. It

1836
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: was this ship that I was afraid of. Oh you

1837
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me.

1838
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's bad. That is really bad. All right,

1839
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: let's try to stay on track here. I don't know

1840
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: where we are in this list.

1841
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's let just look you ever hear of

1842
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: a remember in the nineties when they had drive through

1843
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: package stores that got really exciting?

1844
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: How about I drive through bar Luke, you into.

1845
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: This Hell, yeah, dude, this guy is my hero.

1846
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: Ah, I thought this huge look at the founcer chasing

1847
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: him out.

1848
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh, this guy is the man.

1849
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: Not only does this remind you of that scene in

1850
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 3: Ferris Bueller at the end when he's trying to run

1851
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: home right and he cuts through the house, But Luke,

1852
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: when I lived in my my wacky twenties, I lived

1853
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 3: in my home, my home, factory town over the town Green.

1854
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I had a third floor apartment over it.

1855
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 3: Luke, we had this massive it's almost like like a

1856
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: park in the center of the town. There's like war statues,

1857
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 3: there's fountains, there's gazebos, like it's giant. Many times, Luke,

1858
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: many times I've looked out that third floor window and said,

1859
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: I think I can drive my car directly across the Green.

1860
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 1: H Did you live in Hartford?

1861
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I lived I live. I

1862
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: live in Naugatuck, Connecticut.

1863
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: Back in the day, So, Luke, there were many times

1864
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 3: that I never had the balls to do it, but

1865
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: there were many times that I was like, you know,

1866
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 3: that would be the ultimate. Can you drive across the

1867
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 3: town green without getting arrested?

1868
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: And look at how sad this bar is? I mean,

1869
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: can you imagine trying to pick up the barflies at

1870
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 1: the end of the shift at this joint. Wow.

1871
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 3: The reason why I never pulled it off, Luke, is

1872
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: one time I took a wrong turn in New Haven

1873
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: after a night out and I accidentally drove across the

1874
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: quad at Yale, across the center of campus on a sidewalk.

1875
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I went streaking at UVA in my twenties.

1876
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice, I did that?

1877
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 2: You go to bed, bath and beyond the next morning?

1878
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: What's it? Hits the lips, Luke? You know what I'm saying.

1879
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: It tastes so good.

1880
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but okay.

1881
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm very old school.

1882
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna roll on here, Luke, it's Manziell

1883
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: Mafia time. Shout out to this Browns fan for the backflip.

1884
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: Looking he got ko and it's over?

1885
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: Uh Is this is this what the kids calling rko pc? Uh?

1886
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: No, this is what the kids call a metaphor for

1887
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel's professional career. Look at the people on the

1888
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 3: side just watching it. No, this is a shooting star

1889
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 3: press is what you would call this in pro wrestling.

1890
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: If you did this off the top of this fucking day.

1891
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: This is great. This is a ya dude, you gotta

1892
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: start putting more Darwin Awards on this fucking thing. This

1893
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: is this is my Watching idiots get their come up

1894
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: and from being idiots is my favorite shit ever.

1895
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Look, you've never driven across something, you never had the

1896
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 3: urge to, like, you know what if I could I

1897
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 3: pull this off? Now you're always like, you don't want

1898
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 3: to do it drunk because it's illegal and dangerous, Luke,

1899
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 3: But you need the balls to pull it off, right?

1900
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Nothing?

1901
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Nothing cool. I one time ran over someone's uh when

1902
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, I ran over someone's yard and then

1903
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: I backed up and then as I did it, tore

1904
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 1: out all all the grass and then they chase meat.

1905
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: But that was it?

1906
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's great, that's great. Okay, Hey,

1907
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: well we'll roll on from this, Luke.

1908
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: I know grip to grip is becoming a thing, but

1909
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: don't come out tip to tip or more importantly flying

1910
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: tip tip tip. We've seen this before, Luke, but I

1911
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: will never not put this on the show. Look at

1912
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: the dedication, Look at the friendship, Luke.

1913
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: That's kind of hurt.

1914
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Luke.

1915
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: One hundred subs? Would you do that for one hundred

1916
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 2: thousand subs? Would you?

1917
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I would there cissoring.

1918
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that is just yes, yes black ah, all right,

1919
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 4: all right, Speaking of Grip to Grip, Luke, we have

1920
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: a submission this week's shout out to our viewer on

1921
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 4: the show.

1922
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 3: At Release the Dogs. On Twitter, he goes by the

1923
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 3: name Grandpa Unofficial. Ask how I ask? Now, it's Sherwin

1924
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Williams And we got a grip to grip in the

1925
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: back room, Luke. You after this, they swirled the paint

1926
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 3: with their sticks.

1927
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Speaker 2: Luca was great, dude.

1928
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Look at the look at these two heterosexuals right here.

1929
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, two different high school prom kings. If I've

1930
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: ever laid my eyes on.

1931
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: A pair, their dedication to our movement and our show, Luke,

1932
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: is fantastic.

1933
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: It's not giving me the movement, but it's fantastic.

1934
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: If they didn't do this in real life, they'd be

1935
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: metaphorically doing it on fortune.

1936
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: I stop that.

1937
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: Stop. Look at.

1938
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Is that Bob and Neil? Or is that what they do?

1939
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: Look at which guy do you think initiated it? The

1940
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 3: other guy's like, I don't know if I'm really into this.

1941
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 3: They're like, no, they look at on the show.

1942
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. The gentleman on the left looks

1943
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: a little bit more like he's got that come hither look,

1944
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: doesn't he? You know?

1945
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1946
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: But the guy in the right looks got a bit

1947
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: more of that Stockholm syndrome.

1948
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, that's hard. I respect these men.

1949
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: They are people, Luke, These are our listeners, these are

1950
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 2: our viewers.

1951
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Okay, this is awesome. I'm teasing them because that's what

1952
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: we do here. But this is fantastic.

1953
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, gentlemen. One day, one day, let's get that

1954
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 3: guy outfitted. But you know, shout out to Sherwin Williams.

1955
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a future sponsor.

1956
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: Luke, never know, you never I need. So I've had

1957
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: to paint my whole goddamn STUDIOSO.

1958
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 3: You'll dip in the paint for them, right, maybe the

1959
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 3: taint too, right, Yeah.

1960
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Something like that. Well, there you go. Is that it?

1961
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: And that's We're good. No dogs today.

1962
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: You've seen that. Yeah, you see any of that shit?

1963
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh BC. We have been running a long so

1964
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: why don't you give me your odds and ends?

1965
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: Good sir, shout out to the UFC card over the

1966
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: weekend and heavyweight Dad Bottler John Volante has given up.

1967
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: Luke.

1968
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: We've known him at two five many a times and

1969
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 3: wins and losses. This wasn't his heavyweight debut as a pro,

1970
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: of course. Let's not forget. He was an alternate on

1971
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix back in the day. But

1972
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: he moved up and he came in at two fifty five.

1973
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: That is him back in the day at light heavyweight.

1974
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 3: The quarantine was rough on our man, Luke. I don't

1975
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: know if we have the actual picture of him. Apparently

1976
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: not all right, well, Luke, he came in with yeah,

1977
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 3: there it is Dad bod one on one and then

1978
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 3: we saw a disastrous loss. It was like Silva Son

1979
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 3: and One, only with a lot more girth and sweat.

1980
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Luke.

1981
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 3: He had knocked down Maurice Green. He was on the

1982
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: verge of victory and then he basically just fell asleep

1983
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: in the guard Luke and fell into the man's what's

1984
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: that uh, not an armpit, but that gap between your

1985
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 3: forearm and bicep.

1986
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: Luke, what do you call that? The back of elbow? Yeah,

1987
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 2: the arie elbow? Is that what you called it? The

1988
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: man with two areolas fell into that and it was

1989
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: good night, Luke.

1990
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 3: I would like to praise Maurice Green's toughness, but not

1991
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 3: his submission ability. John Valonte, dad bought and all. He

1992
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 3: shot his load, Luke.

1993
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was quarantine. Volante there a little bit, not

1994
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: not great by the way, I think it was. If

1995
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: you look closely, he was. Valante was like tucked in,

1996
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: his face was covered here. I don't think the head

1997
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: and arm triangle was strong enough to do that. A

1998
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: heading arm triangle from underneath. Dude, you have to be

1999
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: like I cannot explain to you how strong you have

2000
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: to be. You have to be very strong, and it

2001
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: has to be like really on there. I don't buy

2002
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that that's what it was. I think he just pulled him.

2003
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: He basically just took him and then shoved him into

2004
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: his chest and then held him there and like a

2005
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: pillow on like an old person in a hospital. That's

2006
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of what it was like.

2007
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 3: You know, if Poorier and Hooker was peak MMA, and

2008
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 3: it was in so many ways, Lucas, It's one of

2009
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: the best fights you've ever seen.

2010
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: It might be the second best fight of the year.

2011
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 3: This was the bottom of the food chain, Luke, Yeah,

2012
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 3: not right, speaking of the bottom of the food chain

2013
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 3: other odds and ends. Forty seven year old Oscar de

2014
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: la Hoya, he has announced to come back kind of

2015
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 3: on an interview on his Golden Boy owned RINGTV network

2016
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: said or ringtv dot com said, I want to come back,

2017
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: but I want it like my whole career.

2018
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: I want to face the very best.

2019
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 3: So any top junior middleweights, middleweights, how about any top

2020
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 3: welterweights who want to move up?

2021
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: And wait.

2022
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: So when you hear that, Luke, You're like, come on, guy,

2023
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: you know you want to come back and fight old Trinidad. Yes,

2024
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 3: you want to come back and fight McGregor maybe, but

2025
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 3: stop with the I'll fight anyone about this, Luke, I

2026
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: got a Monday matchup for you.

2027
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: Sergio Martinez is.

2028
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: Trying to ill advisedly come back at like age forty five,

2029
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 3: former Betaway champion. How about we do Oscar against Sergio.

2030
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 3: We put it on day's end.

2031
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: Are you down?

2032
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 2: I'll be down.

2033
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: Wasn't Sergio Martinez his knee completely shredded by the time

2034
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: his career was over.

2035
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but he has he has rehabbit it, he got

2036
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 2: better surgeries.

2037
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 3: He claims he can move again. He claims you can

2038
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 3: punch now too. Excis this all this punch?

2039
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: All this tells you is Yes, there's a market for this.

2040
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how big it is, but there's a

2041
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: market for it. And the reason why there's renewed attention

2042
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: on it is one because sort of Mike Tyson and

2043
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,919
Speaker 1: Evander Holifield have been sort of you know, rattling the cage,

2044
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: but also because they can't get actually big time po

2045
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: boxers back in the ring right now, so they're just

2046
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: trying to find a way to get fights with no

2047
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: names into the ring. And this is what we're left with.

2048
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: It is not particularly all inspiring. I have to tell you.

2049
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: Funny though, Cynthia Conti, who did the inner if you

2050
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 3: asked him when he was like, I'll fight any of

2051
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 3: the top guys. That's what I've always done. She's like,

2052
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 3: how about Canelo? Would you fight him? And he's like no, no, no, no.

2053
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 3: But for a second you saw the glimmer in his eye. Look,

2054
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 3: you know he was you know, the old Oscar still

2055
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 3: in there. Okay, he's still in there.

2056
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: Canelo would do very bad things to Oscar de la Hoya. Okay,

2057
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: for my odds and ends, it's not bad news. It's

2058
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: not good news. It's something in between. And the reason

2059
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: why I'll say that is because the bad part of

2060
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: it is that Roberto Duran Amnos de Piedra has been

2061
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: hospitalized with COVID. Now, the hospitalization was only preventative. His

2062
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: son took to Instagram to explain the only symptoms he's

2063
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: really had. Roberto Duran, by the way, sixty nine years old,

2064
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: so he was kind of in that cohort where COVID

2065
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: can get pretty serious. Has only had sort of mild

2066
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: cold symptoms. But they did it preventatively because in two

2067
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: thousand and one he had an accident that affected his

2068
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: ability to breathe and damaged pretty badly one of his

2069
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: lung So they were like, you know what't sixty nine

2070
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: you got COVID, Let's just let's just take it to

2071
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: the head of the hospital BC. So, first of all,

2072
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: here in a morning combat. Well, it's not great news.

2073
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: It turns out all that bad just yet knock on wood.

2074
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll be fine and he'll go back to his

2075
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: normal life. B See speaking of his normal life. I

2076
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: have been to Panama City in Panama and I have

2077
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: been to his bar. It is called Duran's. You can

2078
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: go there, and he has basically built a monument to himself.

2079
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. He has TVs everywhere and they're all

2080
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: showing his famous fights, all of his wins, all of

2081
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: his belts are all over the place, all of the

2082
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 1: newspaper headlines, all of the trunks he wore, all of

2083
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: his shoes, and he is in the back. And this

2084
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: is true. You can go up there and see him

2085
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: yourself singing karaoke. He loves it. He's a man of

2086
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: the people that he was terrible. It was some of

2087
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: the worst food I've ever had. And the waiters I

2088
01:33:54,880 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: ordered a fried chicken sandwich and yeah, I was like, marah,

2089
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't eat this. And the fries

2090
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: were terrible. But Roberto Duran, Roberto Duran will belt a

2091
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: tune with you for like five bucks. It's great.

2092
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's first of all, that's worth it. Number two,

2093
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 3: what'd you get on tap there, Luke?

2094
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: Or did you get some weird What did I get? No,

2095
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: I got a I got it. So in Latin America

2096
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: they don't do that really here. But in Latin America,

2097
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: when you go to a bar, you don't order a cocktail.

2098
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean you can do that, but they don't. It's

2099
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: not really a thing there. For the most part. That's changing.

2100
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: But what it is really what you do is you

2101
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: go to you just buy a bottle. Everyone just buys

2102
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: a bottle and then they split it. So we bought

2103
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: a bottle of Johnny Walker blue, and then my table

2104
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: and I we just we just housed it. It was great.

2105
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: All right, don't drink the water, Luke, there's blood in

2106
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 2: the water, don't know Panama.

2107
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: You can drink the water. It's fine, don't worry about it.

2108
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a nineties reference. Jay wasn't a political commentary.

2109
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. All right. Okay, So I think

2110
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: that's it, which means we have to remind everyone. You

2111
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: gotta give the video a thumbs up, you gotta subscribe

2112
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: to the channel, and you got to check us out

2113
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 1: on social media. BC has an Instagram and a Twitter.

2114
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I have an Instagram and a Twitter. You can see

2115
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: the information there below and you can see on Morning

2116
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: Combat if you want to get in on DMS for donks.

2117
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Every Sunday we post a.

2118
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: I want to hear from you.

2119
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: We want to hear what you have to say. BC

2120
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:23,919
Speaker 1: and yeah, Luke.

2121
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

2122
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 1: Good. Now what are you gonna say?

2123
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, look what I found. If you

2124
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: had to pick one, Luke, which direction are you going here?

2125
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: I can see the NHL one, I can't see the

2126
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: other one, Techmo.

2127
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or NHL ninety four.

2128
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Techmo super Bowl. I'm gonna go Techno

2129
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 1: super Bowl.

2130
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 2: This is the real Jeremy Ronick right, super Fan ninety nine.

2131
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 2: Everyone knows this is the real.

2132
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: Yes, please subscribe like all that stuff, Luke, I've said

2133
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 3: it before, got big plans, we got I mean this,

2134
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 3: if people could have access to the whispers, to the plans,

2135
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 3: to the to the destination of this rocket ship, right,

2136
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 3: maybe you know, pretty badass, Luke, pretty badass. If this

2137
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 3: was hockey, we would give our three Stars of the week, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Dustin Pourier Star number one, Thank you, Gina Corano, Star

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Speaker 1: All Right, I won't argue too much with that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: try it for thirty days. I think there are still

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Speaker 1: some episodes left, by the way ABC of Morning Combat

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Speaker 1: Strike Force Classics, they did best Submissions last week. I

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Speaker 1: think there's one more airing this weekend than one after

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Speaker 1: that as well. So yeah, knockouts, right, yep, knockouts. You

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Speaker 1: could check that out as well, with a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 2: You can get Ben if you don't like it.

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Speaker 3: All right, So look what was your go to team

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Speaker 3: on NHL ninety four. This is this is the real talk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh I don't remember. I don't know. It's been

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Speaker 1: so long since I played.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was a big Boston Bruins guy, right, you know

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Speaker 3: Oates Neely right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's fine. I probably played with the Capitals,

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Speaker 1: but I don't really remember. Ray Bory that I have

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Speaker 1: to get out of here. BC. All right, I have

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with a huge UFC two

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Speaker 1: Be cool, be smart, mask up, don't be a dunk.

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Speaker 1: Just put it on your dumb face wherever you're going,

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Speaker 1: and then we can all get back to our normal

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Speaker 1: lives as we all wish to do, and then we

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Speaker 1: For Brian Campbell and everyone at Malka and Showtime. I'm

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. Until next time, May all of your games

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Speaker 1: be loyal