1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager and. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with politics. With less than a month 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: until Donald Trump returns to the White House, the President 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: elect is rejecting concerns about the idea of a president 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Elon Musk. More from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: On Sunday, Trump told a conservative audience in Phoenix, he 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: will be president of the US, not Elon Musk. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: No, he's not gonna be president. That I can't tell you, 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: and I'm safe. You know why he can't. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Be He wasn't born in this country. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Ah that Trump would be compelled to address Musk's power 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: as testimony to the unusual influence he's already displayed. Musk 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: was an early and vocal opponent of a budget compromise 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: in Congress last week. Meantime, his appointment to head a 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: cost cutting and deregulation effort has brought can plaints of 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: conflicts of interest in New York. I'm Doug Prisner, Bloomberg Radio. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: All Right, Doug, thank you well. President elect Trump is 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: continuing to fill out his administration He announced at least 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: a dozen appointments over the weekend, including key roles in 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: defense and crypto policy. He's named billionaire Stephen Feinberg and 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Deputy Secretary of Defense. Feinberg is the co founder of 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Cerberus Capital Management, and his companies have held significant defense contracts. 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Trump has also picked Michael Kratzios to lead the Office 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: of Science and Technology Policy. Crazios is the managing director 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: of Scale AI and has been helping to staff up 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency well Karen. 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: President elect Trump's trade threats and diplomatic efforts are causing 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: some global turmoil. The latest aimed at Panama. Trump is 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: claiming the Panama Canal is charging the US exorbitant prices 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: and rates of passage, and he's demanding lower fees or else. 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: The fees being charged by Panama ridiculous, highly unfair, especially 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to Panama. 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: I say, very foolishly by the United States, this complete 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: ripoff of our country will immediately stop. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: The president ellect spoke at a conservative conference in Phoenix 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: over the weekend. In a video statement, Panama's president, Jose 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Rowland Molino rebuffed Trump's threat. 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 5: Every square meter of the Panama Canal and its surroundings 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: belongs to Panama and will continue to be. The sovereignty 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: and the independence of our country are non negotiable. 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: Panamanian President Jose Roland Molino spoke there through an interpreter, 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: writing on truth Social Trump hit back, saying quote, We'll 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: see about that. 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan. The fight over spending in Washington is being 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: put on hold for another three months. President Biden as 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: shinee stop gap bill that keeps the government running until 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: mid March. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer celebrated after the 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: bill passed early Saturday morning by a vote of eighty 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: five eleven. 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 6: This is a good bill. It'll keep the government open 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 6: and funds and helps Americans affected by hurricanes and natural disasters, 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 6: helps our farmers, and avoid harmful cuts. 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: But the new law does not include a suspension of 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: the debt ceiling that President elect Trump demanded. At the 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: last minute, Republicans abandoned an earlier bipartisan deal under pressure 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: from Trump and Elon Musk and the end. Musk came 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: out in support of the final bill. In a post 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: on x he wrote that it went from a bill 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: that weighed pounds to one that weighed ounces. 62 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Certain markets. Now Karen get the latest on a big 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: combination in the auto industry. Japanese carmakers Honda and Nissan 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: have taken their first steps toward creating one of the 65 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: world's largest automakers, signing a basic agreement for merger talks 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: with the goal of combining by twenty twenty six. Makato 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: Uchida is the CEO of Nissan. 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: In order to work together, we need to benefit from 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: the huge synergies. Otherwise it wouldn't be meaningful in the 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: eyes of the stakeholders. So that is why we agreed 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: to start the discussion. That is why we are making 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: this announcement today. 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: That was Nissan CEO Makoto Chieda, speaking through an interpreter. 74 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: Former Nissan chairman Carlos Gone says he sees tough times 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: ahead for the combined company. 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 7: There's no complimentary in the two companies are two Japanese company. 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 7: They are strong in the same fields, they are weak 78 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 7: in the same fields. Both of them have very developed technologies. 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 7: From an industrial point of view, there is duplication everywhere. 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Former Nissan chairman Carlos goone spoke at the Foreign Correspondence 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Club of Japan. Mitsubishi Motors, which is twenty four and 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: a half percent owned by Nissan, also signed the memorandum 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: of understanding and is expected to be part of the 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: combined group. 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: We have more deal news this morning. Nathan Rupert Murdoch's 86 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: News Corp has agreed to sell Foxtowl Group, the sports platform, 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: to zone G Group, a deal that values the Australian 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: pay television and streaming service at two point one billion dollars. 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Is owned back by billionaire A. Len Blavatnik is a 90 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: prominent player in the broadcast of live sports. 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: Here and the US. Karen futures are pointed higher as 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: we kick off the holiday shortened trading week. Major stock 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: indexes are coming off their worst week since mid November 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: after the Fed's decision to be more cautious about cutting 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: interest rates next year. 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Royal markets and in Europe, Nathan, the UK economy failed 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: to grow in the third quarter. GDP was unchanged in 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the three months through September. That's a downgrade from its 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: previous estimate of one to ten percent growth. The figures 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: deliver a further blow to Prime Minister Kiir starmer who 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: came to power promising to boost jobs and living standards. 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And it's time now for a look at some of 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: the other stories making news in New York and around 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the world. And for that we welcome back Michael Barr Michael, 105 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: good morning. 106 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 8: Good morning, Karen. New York City police say they have 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 8: a suspect in custody in the death of a war 108 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 8: after a man set her on fire and watched as 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 8: she burned. Police believed the victim may have fallen asleep 110 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 8: on a subway train before being intentionally lit on fire 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 8: by a man she did not know. Transit police apprehended 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 8: the suspect after receiving a report from three high school 113 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 8: students who had recognized the man they had seen images 114 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 8: of him taken from surveillance and police bodycam video and 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 8: widely distributed by authorities. New York City Police Commissioner Jessica. 116 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Tish, I want to thank the young people who called 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: nine to one one to help. 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 4: They saw something, and they said something, and they did something. 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 8: MTA Chief Security Officer Michael Kemper says cameras now in 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 8: every subway car is a game changer. 121 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: It offered detectives immediately answers to questions that they had 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: what happened. 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 8: Police believed the suspect, who has not been identified, arrived 124 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 8: in the US from Guatemala in twenty eighteen. The range 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 8: meant of the man accused of killing United Healthcare CEO 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 8: Brian Thompson is expected later today now that he's back 127 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 8: in New York. Prosecutors said twenty six year old Luigi 128 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 8: Mangioni's handwritten notes express hostility towards the health insurance industry 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 8: and wealthy executives in particular. Authorities said the notebook describes 130 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 8: and intent to whack the CEO of one of the 131 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 8: insurance companies at its investor conference. There's word a big 132 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 8: report is expected to be released today in Washington. According 133 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 8: to CBS, the House Ethics Committee is expected to release 134 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 8: its report on former Florida Congressman Matt Gates. The investigation 135 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 8: focused on allegations of sexual misconduct and obstruction. Gates has 136 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 8: repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. If you are traveling for the holiday, 137 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 8: expect crowd delays and traffic at LaGuardia Airport. The TSA 138 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 8: expects to screen forty million passengers between December ninetheenth and 139 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 8: January second. The terminals are full. 140 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I've never seen them that full before. 141 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 8: That's a six point two percent high from last year. 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 8: On the roads, Triple A expects ninety percent of the 143 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 8: travelers drive to their destinations. That's about one hundred and 144 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 8: seven million for those taking the train. Amtrak temporarily suspended 145 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 8: their Northeast Corridor line from Philadelphia to New York on 146 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 8: Sunday morning due to down power lines, and there are 147 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 8: still problems. Today. Global News twenty four hours a day 148 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 8: and whenever you want it, it's at the Bloomberg News. Now, 149 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 8: I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Carrot. 150 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 151 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Audie. 152 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: Here's Dan Schwartzman. 153 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 9: Dan, good morning, Good morning, Karrot and Nathan Jane's setting 154 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 9: a franchise record for futility with their tenth loss in 155 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 9: a row. 156 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 10: To give to Robinson to cutback, Robinson bouncing outside, Ronson 157 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 10: keep falling into the inn so to the touchdown. 158 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 9: That's courtesy of Fox Sports. Giants lose to rookie quarterback 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 9: Michael Pennix and the Falcons thirty four to seven in Atlanta, 160 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 9: Drew Locke struggling, throwing for two hundred and ten yards 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 9: with a touchdown in two interceptions, both by the Way 162 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 9: returned by Atlanta for touchdowns. Giants right now hold the 163 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 9: first pick in the NFL draft with a league worst 164 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 9: record of two and thirteen. Meanwhile, the Jets lose their 165 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 9: eleventh game of the season, falling to the Rams at 166 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 9: MetLife nineteen to nine, Los Angeles outscoring the Jets thirteen 167 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 9: to nothing in the fourth quarter. Jets lose despite allowing 168 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 9: just one hundred and ten passing yards to Matthew Stafford. Elsewhere, 169 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 9: the Commander's ending the Eagles ten game winning streak, knocking 170 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 9: off Philly thirty six to thirty three, while the Bills 171 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 9: outlast the Patriots twenty four to twenty one. The Mets 172 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 9: bringing back starter Shawn men Iyah with a three year, 173 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 9: seventy five million dollar deal. The lefty went twelve and 174 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 9: six last year at the Mets with a three point 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 9: four to seven ERA, and the NHL Rangers continue to struggle. 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 9: The fault the Carolina Hurricanes three to one. Elsewhere, the 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 9: Capital is knocking off the Los Angeles Kings three to one, 178 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 9: Tiger Woods and his fifteen year old son Charlie finishing 179 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 9: second and a thrilling PNC championship as Bernhard Longer hit 180 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 9: an eighteen foot eagle putt in a playoff to win 181 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 9: the event with his son Jason for a second straight 182 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 9: year with different sons. Charlie Woods meanwhile hitting his first 183 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 9: hole in one at the par three fourth hole. That's 184 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 9: your Bloomberg Sports Update. I'm Dan Schwartzman, Karen and Nathan. 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 8: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM, 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 8: and around the world on Bloomberg dot com and the 187 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Business app. 188 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. After 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: last week's drama over government spending in Washington, d C. 190 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: And the shutdown averted, President like Donald Trump is hitting 191 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: back at what he calls the latest political hoax against him. 192 00:10:53,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: President Trump has seeded the president's he to Elon Musk. No, no, oh, 193 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: that's that happening. 194 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: The President elect spoke at a conservative turning Point conference 195 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: in Phoenix, Arizona, over the weekend after his last minute 196 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: bid to lift the debt ceiling as part of a 197 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: stop gap spending bill backed by himself and Elon Musk 198 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: also turned out to be not happening. For more, we're 199 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: joined by Terry Haynes, the founder of Pangaea Policy. Terry, 200 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: good morning. What does it tell you that the president 201 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: elect even has to address this subject, the idea that 202 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: Elon Musk has so much influence over his incoming administration 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: that he might as well be president himself? 204 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan, And yeah, I think it's 205 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 10: it's something he'd rather not be talking about. Trump has 206 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 10: this habit, and one of the habits is letting people 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 10: run unsupervised for a while and maybe a little bit 208 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 10: too long, and he ends up reeling them back in 209 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 10: as he's done. But the damage is done, and the 210 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 10: damage here is not small, frankly, because he's fractured. Musk 211 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 10: has trastured Trump's relations with congressional Republicans and frankly, some 212 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 10: Democrats who might support Trump on taxes, spending, and nominees 213 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 10: even before he's taken office. That's about the least productive 214 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 10: thing Musk could have done. 215 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: So do you expect Elon Musk to continue to have 216 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: the kind of influence that he's had during the transition 217 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: after President Trump takes office. 218 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 10: My instinct is that Busk and Ramaswami will continue through 219 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 10: the Doge initiative to be out there and around. But 220 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 10: I do expect his influence, his external influence, to be 221 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 10: somewhat circumscribed. You know, there's famous people, rich people, rich 222 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 10: and famous people tend to think that sometimes that they're 223 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 10: every utterance is important, and it's not. And this is 224 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 10: a lesson that I think Musk is learning to some extent, 225 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 10: and to some extent, I think Trump's probably imposing that 226 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 10: lesson upon him. So I don't expect him to be 227 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 10: to be any less out there. I do expect him 228 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 10: to be somewhat less influential and frankly, stay in his 229 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 10: own lane a little bit more. 230 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Although interestingly, the utterances that we're hearing now from Elon 231 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: Musk include a new post on X this morning going 232 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: after staffing at the Federal Reserve. I wonder what you 233 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: make of that, Whether we could see threats to FED 234 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: independence under an Income Trump administration. 235 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 10: Well, you know, markets, I'll see that all the time, 236 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 10: and I spend a lot of time talking about it 237 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 10: with you and others, And you know, the administration does 238 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 10: not understand frankly that the FED is not a fourth 239 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 10: branch of government, and the FED is not part of 240 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 10: the White House. The FED is a creation of Congress. 241 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 10: It exercises Congressional power over the over the monetary supply 242 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 10: and regulation around it. And you know, frankly, it's not 243 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 10: up to the President and certainly not up to mister 244 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 10: Musk's dosee initiative to suggest staffing levels at an agency that, 245 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 10: frankly is Congress is not the president's. I expect he'll 246 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 10: learn that down the road. 247 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: And I wonder what you make as well of the president, 248 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: like going after Panamon now, the fees at the Panama Canal, 249 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: and even this morning reviving the idea of the United 250 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: States buying Greenland. A lot of talk about global policy 251 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: with less than a month to go until Donald Trump 252 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: retakes the White. 253 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 10: House, I spend a lot of time with markets talking 254 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 10: about geopolitics and geopolitical risk. And the one thing you 255 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 10: should take from all that, and you summarized it very well, 256 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 10: is that is that defense spending, defense posture, geopolitical risk 257 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 10: is going to be much more part of the Trump 258 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 10: administration than I think markets appreciate right now. What the 259 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 10: Panama and Greenland initiatives have in common, frankly, is that 260 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 10: what we're talking about really is a defense perimeter for 261 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 10: the United States and in both the Atlantic and the Pacific, 262 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 10: and in particular warning the Chinese off controlling the Panama Canals. 263 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 10: There's some sort of friendly arrangement with Panama, and so 264 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 10: that is a precursor, I think to a much more 265 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 10: aggressive defense posture in a way that might discomfit markets 266 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 10: a little bit. 267 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 268 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 269 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 270 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 271 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 272 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in Washington, 274 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious 275 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: XM Channel one twenty one. 276 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 277 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: now with Apple CarPlay and Android Atto interfaces. 278 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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