WEBVTT - Rosie O'Donnell - part 2 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:15.320 Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. Welcome 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:20.200 back Whipsmarties. Let's dive right back into our fantastic conversation 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:25.680 with Rosie O'Donnell. When you came out in public, I mean, yes, 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.640 all bets were kind of off societally. I think people 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.840 realized so much of what they thought they cared about 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.559 was bullsh after nine to eleven happened, Like what are 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.400 we fighting about? Look what happens in the world. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:37.000 You know. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.839 It's it's that seismic experience of when you have a 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.320 death in the family and then everyone stops fighting. You're like, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.760 I can't believe we waste it all this time. But 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.680 it was still I mean, it was still a risk. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:53.360 Like I remember watching Ellen and she came out and 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.320 her show got canceled, Like I remember those things. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.560 Yes, but I came out because we had a foster 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:05.840 child that we were not allowed to adopt, and because 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:10.000 we were gay. And there were two male nurses, Lofton 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.919 and Cruteau, who had taken AIDS babies during the AIDS 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.960 crisis when the parents had both died of drug addiction, 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.400 taken the HIV positive children and adopt it. Fostered them, 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:28.160 and then some of them zero converted to negative because 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.240 of their care and treatment, and sometimes that happens with babies. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.480 So they went adopt the fourteen year old that had 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.880 Cyril converted as a toddler, and the Florida state government 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:46.360 wouldn't allow them to adopt the child that they raised 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:52.480 because he was now a viable adoption and they didn't 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.320 want gay people to adopt it, so they couldn't even 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.000 adopt the foster child they raised. And that was exactly 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.760 the position I was in. I could not adopt the 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.520 foster child I raised because I'm gay, So my choice 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.360 would be to lie are you now or have you 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.000 ever been? A homosexual? To lie on the court papers. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:16.440 Therefore maybe having strange people try to nullify the adoption, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.720 and it would have been probably nullified because I am 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.880 a lesbian and there's you know, nothing's going to change that. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.640 I mean, I don't expect any changes. But look at 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:30.120 Jojo Siwa, but she is very she's a very young person. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.800 You know, she's finding herself. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.520 She's figuring stuff out. That's what I say. I mean, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.079 every gay woman I know has a dalliance with men 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.760 at some time. I mean, there's very few gold star lesbians, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:43.880 as they call themselves. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.040 Yeah, I know a few, but not a lot. I mean, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.000 I spent a very long time thinking I was just 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.079 a bisexual woman out here. Turns out yeah, I don't 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:52.560 think so. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.280 Yeah. Well, you know, it's hard to telling ourselves, right, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.320 it's hard to figure out. You know. In my show, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.000 I talked about my daughter saying to me, are you 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:07.040 non binary? And I said no? And they said are 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.200 you sure? And I said yes, And they said, then 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.840 what are you? And I said, I'm an og lesbian bitch. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:21.400 Bitch's pejorative, especially for a feminist even years old. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.960 Yeah, You're like, let me have my terms. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.520 Well I was just like, that's a pretty elaborate thought 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.480 process for it. I'm little bit to go to. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.400 But for an eleven year old to know pejorative in 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.520 the first place is already wildly impressive. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:40.600 Well. She has a thing called hyperlexia, which means and echolalia, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.839 two things that a lot of autistic kids have. One 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.920 of them is when there's like a tape recorder in 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:51.120 your brain. This is echolalia, and if you hear something, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.440 your brain records it and then you can recite it. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.320 In the dialect that you heard it. Wow. So she 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.480 was at school and the boy kept calling her psycho. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.520 So I asked the teacher which was the father, and 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.600 they told me. I went over to the father, introduced 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.040 myself and said, why does your kid call my kid 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.760 a psycho? And he goes, listen, it's very upsetting. But 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.800 my son is very sensitive and she tells them scary stories. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.599 I said, really, I've never heard her tell a scary story. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.080 What's the scary story? Says where's waldough? Se where's the 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.159 striped shirt? How scary is Where's Waldo? He goes, that's 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.520 what he tells me. I go home. I say, Clay, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.480 do you have a story? Where's Waldo? She said yeah? 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.880 I tell her at school a lot. Half the kids 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.679 like it, half the kids hate it. Those are pretty 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.560 good odds. I said, yeah, you're right, there's a pretty 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.920 good odds. Can you tell me the story? She says, yeah. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.400 She takes a breath. She goes, it was a dark 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.599 and dreamy night in the bowels of the kingdom. The 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.240 dungeons were full of stink from rets and fitting. I 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.440 said to a stop, stop, what are you doing? She said, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.840 that's that's the story of of where it's Waldo. That's 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.720 how it begins, and she can recite the entire thing 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.479 that's called echolalia. And then she has hyperlexia. When she 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.400 was in second grade, the teacher said, we have to 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.680 test her vocabulary. They give kids in second grade one 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.960 hundred words, and she got ninety nine right and the 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.400 only word she got wrong was broom and that's because 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.400 she said a sweeper because she used to watch pepper 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.600 Pig and that's what they called on pepper Pig. And 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.919 when she was two to four and a half, she 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:37.680 spoke with a British accent where people would say, we'd 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.599 be at the park and she'd say, Mommy, might I 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.040 have a spot of tea? And the woman would say, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.800 you adopted from London. I said, no, she's from Texas. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.680 She has autism, echalia and hyperlexia. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.280 Wow. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.760 So she's like this little. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.839 She's like a little linguistic prodigy. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:05.080 Yes, incredible, and she has you know, she has moderate autism. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.719 You know, not people say hers is very light. I'm 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.520 like their's is very light. I'm like, no, it's actually moderate. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.400 And you know, I just don't always discuss the more 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.719 difficult stuff because I feel as though, you know, that's 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.279 her business. The light that I show her in is 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.360 the brilliance of her. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.440 Yeah. Of course, is it an interesting thing to have 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:36.960 a young one with neuro difference because one of the 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.720 things that fascinates me even learning about my own where 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.280 I'm like, oh, it's not just me, Like these are interesting, Okay, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.360 nothing like being an overachiever who gets diagnosed in your forties. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.320 That's a fun journey. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:49.920 Yes, exactly. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.320 I think about what it must be like to be 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.200 a kid learning how your brain works. Now because there's 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.880 so much research. I mean, even like a few months ago, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:06.120 researchers believe that they've proven that ADHD is a developmental advantage, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.800 and they sort of went through the whole reasoning of 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.600 this and what it offers in terms of creative problem 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.200 solving and how ADHD brains helped us survive crazier times 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.880 when there weren't guaranteed resources, and like, I wish I'd 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:20.360 known this. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.280 I completely believe that. Wow. Yeah, I always tell people, 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.240 you know, add has really worked for me. Yea, So 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.600 you know, I don't know what to tell you. But 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.120 when I was on my show the University of Seattle, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.240 I believe It was a Bill Gates study was doing 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.160 all this autism research, and they called and sent a letter. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.640 They wanted to test me for autism because of my 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:51.800 ability to retain lyrics and ingles and songs, and they said, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.840 it's really not normal what you're able to do. And 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.760 I was like, Wow, that's exciting, but I have a 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.600 kid and I can't I'm doing a show. I can't 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.760 really to be tested for three days and in case 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.920 I might have autism, which at the time, you know, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.880 I didn't think twice about it, But now that I've 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.440 been raising this child, I go, I see. You know, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.600 I used to think all my friends who had kids 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.120 who were autistic, I thought I should be the one 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.560 to get an autistic kid. I would understand. And I 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.560 think I do the way that you have to if 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:32.080 you're an autism parent, and you learn your own language 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.360 and routines with them that are often misunderstood by people 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.600 who love you and love the child. Yes, you know, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.080 like my child sleeps in the bed with me still 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:49.360 and they're thirteen, and it's exhausting. It's exhausting to not, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.600 you know, to be hit with, you know, a kid, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.079 you know, not in a violent way. Just sleeping. Sleeping. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.800 Kids are very active. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.160 Very active, and you know a lot of people have 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.720 judgment in my world and say, you know, you have 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.680 to do this, you have to do that. And I 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.040 thought she was out now she was out for about 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.520 six months, and then I went away to Australia to 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.200 work for three weeks. And when I came back back 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.560 in the bed right. So everyone that I talk to, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:25.000 all of our helpers, everyone says, when they're ready, they 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.280 will go, I'll go, and then that will be that. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.280 Don't worry, this is not going to be you know, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.320 they're going to end up their whole life doing this. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.920 You know, right, what a gift though to be in 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.680 this time. You know that your kid gets to be 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.680 raised by you, because if if you were your kid's 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.400 age with your parents, you might not have been given 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.360 the patience, no, no, to develop in the way you 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.080 needed to. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.040 Yeah, everyone thought that you have to be stricter with 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.800 these kids. My kids think that too, They're like, you 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.240 have to be stricter with them. I'm like, listen, you guys, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.320 this is a different situation. You guys didn't sleep with me. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.160 Remember what do you think I changed as a mom? 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.320 Or did the kid change what's and there's a diagnosis 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.480 you know, yeah, there's a doctor's diagnosis of this. This 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:25.440 is someone who does not have Apple software. They have 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.559 some strange computer that you have to figure out how 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.760 to use, and it's not one you've ever seen before, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.280 and you're not good at coding, and you don't know 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.200 the lab and you just keep freaking hitting the keys 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.920 and trying this and trying that, and you know, and 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:50.960 mostly their self esteem. Now, if I were to send 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.240 you pictures of how they just went out, We're here 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.280 in the Jersey Shore and we are doing a family 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:02.560 two weeks hang out at the Jersey Shore, and my 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.880 son who just had a baby, and his wife are 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.160 coming with the baby who's three months old. So that's unbelievable. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.240 But we were at the Jersey Shore and she had 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:19.280 on a green wig, she's thirteen goggles and leather gloves 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.240 it's eighty five degrees and a skirt and boots, different 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.839 kinds of she addresses like Cyndi Lauper in nineteen eighty. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.440 I was going to say this, this feels very Betsy Johnson 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.120 Cyndy Lauper. Yes, yes, yes. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.920 Nineteen eighty so cool. Yeah, so many artists I know 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.320 have ADHD autism spectrum, they have something, they have some 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.600 four letter three little ditty. And you know, figuring out 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.200 yourself is a life journey. You know, it's not like you. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.439 Oh well, that's what I am. So therefore I stop 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.079 growing and I just stay in this one definition of 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.960 who I am. But moving to Ireland really forced me 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.120 to step back out of my comfort zone. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.720 You know, I was going to ask if some of 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:08.160 this feels related to getting so far outside the system 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.520 you've been used to, because a different brain is, to 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.040 your point, a different operating system. And I'm so curious 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:19.760 what it's been like to live overseas and outside of 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.280 this sort of American ness we're all so steeped in. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.840 Well, you know the greatest thing about it is the 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:34.920 lack of celebrity culture in Ireland, because you know, people 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.480 would say to us, welcome Clay, welcome Rosie, you belong 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.679 here in Ireland. Never can I have a picture? Can 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.200 I have? So Clay and I go to this place 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.160 and where it's an outdoor place, we can get a 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.480 burger and couple next to us with a little baby 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.440 and Clay's playing with the baby and me and the 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.440 couple are talking. So it turns out we sort of 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.000 had dinner together, but not at the same tabe really close. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.839 And yeah, after about two hours they said, thank you 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.040 for talking to us, Rosie and I just want to 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.760 let you know we're both big fans. And I said, oh, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.320 you just thought you'd bring it up here at the 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.200 end of the dinner. And he goes, well, it's not 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.320 the most important thing, no, is it? And I was 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.120 like a sentence never heard in America. Wow. And so 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.680 there's a lack of celebrity culture which allows you to 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.000 be seen and live as a full, completely integrated person, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:35.400 you know, with no none of the tendrils of fame 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.440 right right. It drags behind you sometimes, and you know, 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.959 it's very hard to talk about because in America it's 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.360 held up as the be all, end all. So if 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.040 you say anything about it that you know, people are 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:48.720 getting mad. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.880 You know, God forbids you complain. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.679 You're ruining my dream of what it is. Just be 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.800 quiet and be happy you're there, you know. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.800 Yeah, and now a word from our sponsors who make 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:12.840 this show possible. That thing that you said, you know, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.000 to be able to really be a full, an integrated human, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.440 what I think people don't understand is that the box 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.600 like it clamps around you and then it squeezes, you know, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.040 like like one of those Indiana Jones kind of scenes 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.160 where the rocks are getting closer. And doesn't mean you 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.840 don't love what you do. It means you love it 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.000 so much that you put up with the weirdness of 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.920 people not treating you like a person anymore. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.760 But sometimes it's gone before you know it. Right now, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.760 it can be gone in a flash, like mine was 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.600 gone after the first day of my show. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.920 Wow, really just overnight. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.720 Overnight. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.000 Holy Now. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.520 I had done a bunch of movies I had, you know. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.640 So it was different. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:01.520 I was not known, but to be superno and in 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:06.760 the category with someone as powerful and meteor aesque as 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:14.200 Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, oh, I mean that's a pretty powerful soul. Yes, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.120 in every way that you can measure it. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.240 You know, when you think about getting some of your 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.600 personhood back over there in a way, do you think 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.680 the space Ireland gave you is why you're ready to 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.160 come back and do your next show. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:38.680 I think the space Ireland gave me made me want 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.760 to come back and see my son's baby. And I 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:48.320 had been doing it in Australia, in Scotland, and I 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.600 had been doing it in Europe, so I've done about 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.200 fifty or sixty show performances of it already. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.880 My god, I didn't realize. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.640 Yeah. So then when I'm going to be in America 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.640 to see my son's baby, I said, can we just 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.280 do like, you know, four, like twelve shows, maybe four 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.640 a week and in a little theater. Daryl Roth, who's 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.440 a big Broadway producer I've worked with before and I 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.840 really enjoy her. She's just one another Tony and so 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.200 she said, you know, let me present it and we'll 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.080 do twelve shows. What do you say? And you know, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:27.920 so we're going to do that, and you know, I 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.840 wanted to see with the changes that I've made because 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:36.600 the play is essentially a love letter to Ireland, it 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.400 really is, and so I had to take out a 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.920 lot of the Irish stuff. The second part of the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:48.000 show is really much more about all the Irish stuff, right, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.560 And it starts with the day my mother died and 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.160 it ends with the last day I saw her. So 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.200 there are very sad parts in it as well, and 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.920 sometimes people in the audience cry, you know, and where 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.720 they're very startled at the beginning when that's how it starts. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.840 They're like, right, wa, wait a minute, isn't it supposed to 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:07.840 be a comedy. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.760 Show, right, They're like, wait, Rosie, you're. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.880 So where's the trump jokes? Right? Right? 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.720 Right? We thought we thought you were gonna call him patty. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.680 Little bit exactly, come on, do it? Do it? 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:27.399 Yeah? Wow? Well, so you kick off next week in 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.680 New York Wednesday, the twenty second. What do you think 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.199 it's going to feel like to be back in New 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.960 York for you? Because like this, I know, Ireland's home, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.440 but like this is home too, right. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.760 Yeah, this is definitely home. You know. It feels good 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.240 and familiar. It also feels very loud. I feel a 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.600 little bit more anxiety, just you know, in New York. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.320 Sometimes the day's New York wins. You know. New York 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.640 is is a beast, right And that's where I'm staying 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.400 and where I'm doing the show, And you know, I'm 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.199 I'm home. I sold everything before I left, and so 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.280 I'm hoping to get like a place in New Jersey 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.000 near my kids so that I could when i'm home, 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.800 we can have a home base here as well. You know. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.240 So I'm planning on doing that, and you know, I 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.199 don't know how long we'll stay there. I think it 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.040 really does depend on what happens politically in the country 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:25.320 and if I feel mentally healthy enough to you know, 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.439 battle those those demons. And some days I do. Some 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.080 days I feel very strong, and other days I feel like, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.640 oh boy, this is a lot. You know. Yeah, he's 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.520 like bombards you. It's always he's doing something. You can't 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:45.080 even watch the soccer game or you know, he ruins everything. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.800 In Really like dealing with him is like a very 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.200 horrible version of the Tomato festival that happens in Italy 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:57.800 every summer. Well, just getting compelted in the face all 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:58.240 the time. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.399 It's like stop, you know. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.080 And I know that's their whole thing. Like him and Bannon, 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.359 they're like flood the zone wich shit and they won't 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.840 know what to But it's like nobody wants to be 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.720 on the receiving end of a fire hose of shit, 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.120 and that that's your goal, just like says so much 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.119 about you, So I get it. There are days like 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.080 I got asked this morning if I'd seen something horrible, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.919 and I was like no, I just like sometimes I 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.919 need a day where I don't look at the news. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.920 But then because I'm such a communicator of the news 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.159 to people, I get yelled at if I haven't communicated 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.720 about the most recent and I'm like, I don't know 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.399 what to tell you, guys. I'm just one person, and 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:36.800 sometimes I got to turn off. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.000 Yeah, but I gotta tell you, I took all of 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.879 the American news channels off of my TV and I 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:48.880 only watch Irish and English Now and sometimes wash Al 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.639 Jazeera just to see what's happening over there. And I 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.240 have so much commer for it. I can't tell you 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.720 the difference that it makes in my mental health and 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.840 my happines this level, you know, to experience joy still, 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:09.800 and because it's very, very hard to experience joy when 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:16.120 you're in the thick of the Epstein Library, Yes, when 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.840 you're in the thick of that young boy that was 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:21.000 left on the island. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.560 My friends, it's so awful. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.159 That you can't believe what the Supreme Court is doing, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:34.199 and doing boldly in front of everyone. And is he 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.639 going to let us have elections? That's my big question. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.280 Is he going to let us or is he going to, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.240 you know, make some sort of tragic event occur and 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.320 then declare that it's too dangerous and this is a 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.280 time of war and we can't all vote, right, so 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.960 you know, I think it's scary. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:21:04.280 Yeah, and now a word from our sponsors. Part of 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.720 the practice for me, because I can really get sucked 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.280 under with it all, you know. And then I'm not 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.520 sleeping and then it's like two o'clock and I haven't 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.439 eaten anything, and I'm just like, oh, this is not 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.720 a good I'm not treating my body kindly like I 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.960 would never treat my kid this way? What am I doing? 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:24.600 And I think about it and I come back a lot. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:29.280 There's a poem I love by a poet, Jack Gilbert, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.480 and he it's called a Brief for the Defense. After 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.880 our show, I'm going to send it to you, but 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.879 the sort of thesis of it, and he talks about how, 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.080 no matter what, you could essentially be having the most 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.320 glorious day, and then you look over there and somebody's 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.119 suffering in the most hideous way. And the thesis of 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.399 the point when of the poem, when he really drills 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.600 it down, is there's all sorts of things we can't 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:59.840 live without, even hope sometimes, but we cannot survive without delight, 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.720 Like the human spirit has to have delight, and so 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.320 when you when you claim it, you keep it alive 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.040 for everyone else who can't touch it in the moment. 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.400 And it's kind of my reminder, you know, if I've 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:20.040 spent all day calling representatives or on forty six zooms 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.040 and then raging about a thing, and I'm writing an 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.879 op ed, I go, I gotta like get outside and 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.879 listen to the kid's laugh exactly because I have to 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:31.600 remember what I'm fighting for, Like I have to have 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:32.320 that exactly. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.760 You have to do it, and you know, and that's 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.080 what I'm you know, I'm fighting for peace of mind 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:45.879 and my own mental health, and I know enough to 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.159 take it seriously. Some people don't survive, people I know 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.520 in love, you know, ye I lost family members and 0:22:55.240 --> 0:23:00.280 loved ones, and you know, nobody gets out of this unscathed, right. 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:05.320 Yeah, Well, but I hear delight even when you talk 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.760 about the show, when you talk about going to host 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.080 Jimmy Kimmel, like. 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.119 Fine, grand baby, I have pure delight being here on 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.159 the Jersey Shore. Even though there was a horrible storm 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.320 last night and the lightning hit so close to the 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.840 house that the fire alarm went off and kept saying 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:28.840 fire fire. Every time strike the alarm went off and 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.320 screamed fire fire, which was not good for anyone. I 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.520 don't think, wow, but there was no fire. 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.399 Knock woodna, I'll knock on my wood too, thank god. 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:44.399