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Crazy for me. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, but but most people aren't buying 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: into the Seahawks. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this. I've been saying it. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: I said it when when when Sam Donald was in 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: with the Viking. Sam Donald has a black cloud over 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: his head and people will not n ot ever embrace 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: him fully until he gets over the hurdle. And what 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: I mean for him over the hurdle. I expect them 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: to beat the forty nine ers this week. 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: I do. I expect Seattle to beat the forty nine ers. 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: They're on fumes, they're losing players left and right, you 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like at some point that magical 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: mystery carpet ride ends. 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: I will not believe in Sam Donald. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: Until he's it's Super Bowl Sunday and he runs out 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: onto the field with the Seahawks. That's when I'll say, Okay, 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: he scrubbed it away. I remember people trying to scrub 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: it away after they came back and beat the Rams. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Remember down thirty of what was it fourteen or sixteen? Right? 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: See fourteen? I think it was. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, and they came back in when they 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: gave people are all that narrative about said, I guess 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: that's over. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: No it's not. 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: It's not over. They won that game, but it ain't over. 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: And I just don't believe people buy into Sam Donald. 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: I really don't. And for me to embrace him and 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: believe like something has changed here, he'd. 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: Have to get to the Super Bowl. Is that unfair? 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: I think it is unfair, but I don't like I 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: understand where it comes from. If you look at the 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: last two seasons, two different franchises, he's been incredible fourteen 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: and three. If you take out the Rams games, he's 47 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: twenty five and four in the last two seasons with 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: two different franchises. You would think like, okay, fine, he's 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: got on a hot streak with one team in particular, 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: right that happens where Okay, but he's doing stuff that 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: no one else has done and back to back, you know, 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: four thousand yards with two different teams. These records are great, 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: and the top seeds and you know, one of the 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: top one two seeds in the conference. So at some 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: point we have to go, oh, Donald's a good player. 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Now there are levels, as we know, just like there's 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: tiers of things. 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: So is he tier one? 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: No? But the idea that he's no longer good or 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: we just did you know, I can't believe in him. 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: If you're him, you're saying, well, what more do I 62 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: need to do? I mean, I've been good with this team, 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: then you trade me to another team. I'm good with 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: this team, or not trade I get signed to this team. 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm successful. There, you questioned me. If I can win 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: a big game, I beat the Rams in a great comeback, 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: I end up being having the better and win that division, 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: which is one of the better divisions in football. So 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, because even part of me 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: is like and I've been trying to be the most 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: optimistic about Sam Donald, but even I'm like Sam, I 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know. If Sam Donald is able to realize that 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: all he has to do is be a slightly better 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: version of what we want from CJ. Stroud, then he 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: can be set to get to a Rob Parker questions. 76 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: He can mean he got super Bowl, That defense is 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: very good, the running game is pretty good. He's got 78 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: very good weapons, including Yeah. 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: But they were down thirty to fourteen at home on 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 3: the outside, right, I mean that, and he had two 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: picks and and he came back and one. 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: He Caleb William did. We praised him all season for that, 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: and he was able to do. 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: That against But he has a bigger body of work 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: of Douds in big spots. 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: You don't get that by it. 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: And here's my biggest here's my ender that will debunk 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: just the idea that this might be an unfairfair tag. Okay, listen, 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: the teams have done this to him and that's why 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: he is where he is, Rob g. The contract he 91 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: signed with Seattle was a soft, noncommittal contract, the same 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: way that the Vikings stepped off of him, and that 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: and the teams are telling you, right, rob G, this 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: contract he signed, they don't believe in him. If you 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: have a franchise quarterback, Kelvin, what do you do you 96 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: locked that guy up? 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Rob G? Tell us the contract, it's a week contract. 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: It was marketed as a three year, one hundred and 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 5: five million dollar contract with fifty five million guaranteed. The 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: problem is even that fifty five isn't really guaranteed because 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: it doesn't invest until after a certain. 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: Date in the year. 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: So realistically, like what it actually is is a two year, 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: sixty six million dollars. 105 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: But here's where I'll push back with that. 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying from the standpoint of a 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: guy we were coming into you were you were saying 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: you were optimistic about about we fell off. Everybody completely 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: written him off. We were nobody was thinking about him. 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: So to then go to the Vikings and have a 111 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: fourteen and three year that contract to me matches that 112 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: meaning that was one year. 113 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: Was that a fluke? I don't know? Was it a system? 114 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: Was it? 115 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, to me, that's a safe bet. We believe 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: in you enough to be our guy. 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: No, we don't believe that you're the guy but did 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: still doubt and that that that I bet. 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I bet you he gets one now. No, 120 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: But because that's back to back to you. 121 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: Say that, but if they get blown out and lose 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: to the forty nine ers, he will not He will not. 123 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: Get a deal. 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you he won't if he's bad, because they'll say, 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: we have this defense in place, you just talked about it, 126 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: and if he has a bad game, they will not 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: be embracing him or going, let's sign him to a 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: long term contract because that's where he is as the 129 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: narrative about him. 130 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: We people talk about narratives. This narrative is real. 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: And if you really believe that you lucked in and 132 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: you saw him with the vikings were like, oh my god, 133 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: this guy's available, we know he can play, and we're 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: just gonna we're gonna go with him. You would have 135 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: tried to get a longer deal, even if it wasn't 136 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: for the big money, but a longer deal from the 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: standpoint that we don't want him to blow up and 138 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: have a great year for us and then we have 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: to really pay him in two years. 140 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying? What you're saying, but 141 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: I guess how old Sam Donald is. Sam Donald is 142 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight. He's twenty eight. So you just got this 143 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: deal that just three hundred and sixty five days ago, 144 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: not a single human being, including Sam Donald, thought Sam 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Donald would ever get a deal. He got no here 146 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying. So now you get that money, and 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: now you come back, you bounce back fourteen and three 148 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: again and a beating again. You wanted a very always. 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't think I think I think you're giving him 150 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: way too much credit for the fourteen and three. 151 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he didn't play well. They got 152 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: a hell of a defense. 153 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: They do, Okay, I'm just saying, so when you're looking 154 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: at it and you put the team together, you go, 155 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: he's a big part of it. Can't beat the Rams. 156 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: Had four interceptions with blood two. He had six interceptions 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: and six quarters against the Rams before they came back 158 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: and won that game. So right there, you're like, oh 159 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: my god, we can't get past the Rams. He always 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: wets the bed when they played him, all right, eight 161 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. We don't want to 162 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: chew up all the time. I just say that the 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: teams the way that they've responded to him and not 164 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: rewarding him first the Vikings and then Seattle with a 165 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: soft deal. They gave him a deal, but it is soft, 166 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: and Rob Jeevens said, like the whole fifty five wasn't 167 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: even guaranteed fully. 168 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: Now, you would think he would be at least at 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: what a guy. 170 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: You don't think he's about to get more. No, if 171 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: he has a bad I do not if he has 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: a bad game. 173 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: And what if he has a normal game, I mean, 174 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw four hundre yards. 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm just twenty. It depends on how he plays. If 176 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: he does not have. 177 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: A good game, he's about to get more model. I 178 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: don't think in two seasons four thousand yards they get nice. 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: If they get knocked down and lose at home at 180 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: the top seed to a banged up forty nine ers team, 181 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: you're gonna sign him and he. 182 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Played, I think they will as long as he doesn't. 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he goes out four or five interceptions, 184 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: but I'm saying if take plays suddenly and then they 185 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: lose to a dude, the forty nine ers are a 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: tough out. 187 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: They have been for the last five. 188 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: Six I disagree I think they're supposed to win, and 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: if he does not play well, they're going to question it. 190 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 191 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 192 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 193 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 194 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The Odd 195 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 196 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 197 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 198 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 199 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: That's right, You can now watch The Odd Couple live 200 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: on YouTube every day. 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube. 202 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Again YouTube, Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out 203 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube and subscribe. 204 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: The guy we're gonna be looking at this weekend, of course, 205 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: is Josh Allen. 206 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: We've been looking at him all season. But here's the 207 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: big moment. 208 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: Because we keep talking about it in the AFC, you 209 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: know the big dogs are gone. 210 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, there's no Lamar. 211 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 5: There's no Patrick Mahome, Mahomes Joe Burrow. I don't think 212 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: it's overstated. Any you guys would agree that coming into 213 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 5: the postseason, we could go today now. The biggest story was, 214 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 5: without a doubt, is Josh Allen gonna break through? Finally? 215 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: Is there anybody under more pressure right now than Josh Allen? 216 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 5: For all the reasons you mentioned, Mahomes is gone, Lamar 217 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: didn't make it, Burrow was an afterthought. The AFC race 218 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: came down to Josh Allen, a forty two year old 219 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, and a bunch of unproving cats, and the 220 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 5: consensus seemed to be, if not now, then when right. 221 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, even though he hasn't actually got to the 222 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, has been historically great in the playoffs right. 223 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: He averages three hundred and ten total yards per game 224 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: in the postseason. That's the most by any quarterback in 225 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: NFL playoff history. Last week, in a dominant win or 226 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: performance by him over Jacksonville on the road, three hundred 227 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: and six total yards, three total touchdowns. 228 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: And if it wasn't for the last minute whatever, they 229 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: would have lost that game. I mean they needed him 230 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: to joy. 231 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had to go full MVP Josh Allen to 232 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 5: get that win, so much so that an anonymous executive 233 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: told The Athletic that after that game, his first thought 234 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: was Superman is out. 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: But here's the caveat guys. 236 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: He also added, but the Bills have too many injuries 237 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: to overcome at this point. 238 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Dude, they've lost they already. Let's just call it. Keep 239 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: it real. They weren't that great prior to injuries, right, 240 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: they were good, Josh Allen's great. They didn't have the 241 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: best receiving Think about when. 242 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: The season started and they gave up a forty piece 243 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: in the opener, Yeah, against the Ravens. 244 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Remember that that was to start the season in Buffalo. 245 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: And McDermott's supposed to be a defensive minded coach. And again, 246 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: they're not horrible, but they're never great. You don't walk 247 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: out and go all that Bill's defense is about to 248 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: shut it down. They had a few I would have 249 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe they had a couple of years in his tenure 250 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: with them where you thought that, but it hasn't been 251 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: the case the last couple the receiving corps was weak. 252 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about injuries, guys tearing up acls. Two 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: guys in the same game. Now they're decimated. They got 254 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: to bring guys in the game who'll begin dnps just 255 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: because the coach doesn't want to play because you know 256 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Kean cole so Coleman. So this team, to me is 257 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: the opposite of what we talked about last hour. Rob, 258 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: you look at Sam Darnold, we talked about it the 259 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: last earlier in the week. You look at ce Strout. 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: What do you say, Just don't hurt us, Just don't 261 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: hurt us. This is the opposite. Josh is saying, just 262 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: show up, just help me. And he's trying to treat 263 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: this like the two thousand and seven Cavaliers where Lebron 264 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: was twenty two and he dragged his CAF teams with 265 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: Boobie Gibson starting. 266 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: They won sixty games doing the regular years right. 267 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Because Lebron was that great. And so that's what Josh Allen, 268 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: who's that great? And Rob My point is it, I 269 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: don't think you can do that in the NFL. You 270 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: have to have a couple of the facets locked in. 271 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: You don't have to have all three. You can have 272 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: a great special teams and a great defense in an 273 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: offense that's solid. 274 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: The Bills actually, Josh, because you rely on him and 275 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: you can't win that way. And I'm highlighting it, and 276 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: it's like over the bag exactly, and you're allowing him 277 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, yeah, he can do that, but 278 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: ultimately you won't get where you need. 279 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: To go because you're who relying on him doing this stuff. 280 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Where if somebody, if you could get somebody else and 281 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: he didn't have to score three touchdowns every week, you 282 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: know you can win. And I think that that's an 283 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: issue and you might wind up looking up one day 284 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: and saying, Josh Allen, oh, yeah, he was a great player. 285 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: Never got there, like like never got there. 286 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: And to me, I think, looking at like, he's the 287 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: best player left. If you if I'm not, unless i'm 288 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean Matthew Stafford maybe raises his hand and say, well, 289 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: don't forget me. But I think Josh Allen is the 290 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: best player left. But he's also the guy that's so great. 291 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: None of us talk about you talk about man, the Rams, 292 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are the favorites. 293 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 4: No, I don't even think they should win. I think 294 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: the Rams are better than people. 295 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: Look that team with the with the they're banged up, 296 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: you know, like they if they win and get to 297 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: the super Bowl, it's gonna be a miracle. 298 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: But we we'd even prior to these last couple of injuries. 299 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: We weren't really talking about them, and I think that 300 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: that at some point Josh has to be like, hey, y'all, 301 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm literally giving you all like like blood, sweat, tears 302 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: and every thing. What do we need to do to 303 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl? Because we said it, 304 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: the three fourths of the four horsemen aren't here. We 305 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: thought this would be a shoeing. Now we went from 306 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: a shoeing for Josh Allen to get the super Bowl too. 307 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: We'd be shocked if he was actually to get to 308 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the super Bowl because Patriots are more complete team that 309 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Broncos defense he's about to face. We've been talking about 310 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: all season long, how we got a super Bowl defense? 311 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: What did the Texans have? 312 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: Hey? 313 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: What super Bowl defense? And so it's gonna be he 314 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: struggles against the Texans. So it's just one of those 315 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: things where I know he has to be like, finally 316 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: is my year and our team is decimated with injuries. 317 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: We're not that great anyway. We don't have a lot 318 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: a roster full of talent. James Cook is good, but 319 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: he never cooks when you need him to. 320 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: He's cooked. 321 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: He might be cooked, and they might be cooked if 322 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: they don't find a way. So somebody else on that 323 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: team is gonna have to make some place for him. 324 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Somebody else on that team another facet special teams defense 325 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: is gonna have to say, you know what, we owe 326 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: him one. We let's go make let's go allow him 327 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: to be solid to average and we can still win 328 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: a game. 329 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 330 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: The only problem is that it's too late in the 331 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: in the you know, season to really like try to 332 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: focus on somebody else. Like, I just think they're so 333 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: relying on him for him to change it up this, 334 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: you know, and then they'll be like, well, why weren't 335 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: you running? Why didn't you you know what I mean, Like, 336 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think they would be ready for that. 337 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: I think he has to try to do whatever he can. 338 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: And that's why teams are the anonymous gms, and people 339 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: just don't think that there's enough there. 340 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: I just I can't do that in football. 341 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: It's like even the forty nine ers, Okay, you've been escaping, 342 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: you've been doing all this. And and the thing that 343 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: I think people don't always look at because they won 344 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: the game, and winning a. 345 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: Race is everything. Philadelphia was first intended to twenty yard line. 346 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: You know in that game, they were right there to 347 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: win that game and go on, and the forty nine 348 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: ers would have said, oh they banged up, they lost kid, 349 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: all right, you know what I mean? And you would 350 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: have been able to just kind of but they wind 351 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: up winning the game. If they can do that against 352 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: Seattle on the road, but. 353 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: That would be that wouldn't be. 354 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I would be less shocked forty nineers beat Seattle, oh wow, 355 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: than the Bills. Not necessarily just the singular game coming up, 356 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: but like if you told me the Bills made it 357 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. 358 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: No, I would be to beat New England. Yeah, that's 359 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: the possibility. 360 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: But then just saying, like, what would be more shocking 361 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers getting more forty nine. 362 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: Ers just out for the opposite. 363 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: For me, I just think there's so many just because 364 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: they have the history of they've been doing this now 365 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: four five six years. 366 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: Who's up? All right, who's out? Who's up? 367 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: What quarterback Matt Jones, who Mac Jones? Like they've been 368 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: doing They they have a system where they've been able 369 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: to do that. 370 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: Bob G where are you on on these two y'all? 371 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: I think y'all are crazy, right, I think was crazy 372 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: because when you get to postseason football, it really comes 373 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: down to what aspect of my team can I trust? 374 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: And as good as the Texans defense is overall, as 375 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: ferocious as the Broncos pass rush is, there is not 376 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: a single unit that I trust more in the postseason 377 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: than Josh allen by himself. 378 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: Because because because his residents one AFC Championship game, he 379 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: balls out every time he plays out the fall that 380 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: they lose. 381 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that's not the question. 382 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: So what I'm saying is Okay, Denver and Houston because 383 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: it seems like nobody is really buying into the Patriots 384 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: because they didn't play a good. 385 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: The Giants more teams over five riders, so they don't 386 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: tell you. 387 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: You don't seem to be getting the kind of schools 388 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: that you would expect with the team with the MVP 389 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: caliber guy, Right, They're kind of almost an afterthought. It's like, hey, 390 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: Denver's the one seed that defense uh most Saxons in 391 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: like fifty years, right, and then you got the Texans defense, 392 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: which has just been gnarly all season. Living in in 393 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: l A, Kelvin knows this. There was not a Lebrons. No, 394 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: you know, you got some years. 395 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: Get over there. I got about five years on your 396 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 4: talking about you've been here fifteen years. Yeah, I seen 397 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: him say bomped in one time. Made young. 398 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey he's sposed. You ain't got to say 399 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: what's understood, you know. 400 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 5: But I think we can all agree that there was 401 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 5: a three to five year span where it was unquestioned 402 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 5: that Aaron Donald was the best player in football. No 403 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: matter who is out there, every team with aby roster 404 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 5: out there, Aaron Donald is the best player. 405 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: He can wreck a game, right. 406 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 5: How many times do we go into a playoff game 407 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: with the RAM and say, man, I can't believe they 408 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: lost that game. Aaron Donald had one sack, had one tackle, 409 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: and one and a half, like he didn't feel the impact. 410 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 5: Because Josh Allen is the quarterback, He's gonna have an 411 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 5: impact on the game every single time. And that doesn't 412 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: always apply to a great defense or a pass rusher 413 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: or whatever. 414 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: But it also even with what you're talking about, they 415 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: haven't to me won enough. And they are those games 416 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: where despite him playing like Superman, they still don't win, 417 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: even as well as great as he plays. And I 418 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: hear what you're saying with Aaron Donald and you're right, 419 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: I've seen that and you're right where he was could 420 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: be a non Well. 421 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl, I saw them win. Did you see 422 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: who made those last couple of games. 423 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 4: Out that he didn't do it? 424 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: But there will be in enough games where you say, hey, MIKEL. 425 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 5: Parson didn't do anything in that game? 426 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: How was that? With files? Garrett had one zack in 427 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: his game revisions. The quarterback Aaron. 428 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers would probably say, hey, I've had some games where 429 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: I should have won and I didn't. Should have made 430 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: it too short run? John Hamaway made it to the 431 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl a few times. Like, what more do you 432 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: want from me? I mean, so this happens. Lamar Jackson 433 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: has had a couple of games where he said the 434 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: same thing. So to me, I just think I would 435 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: rather ride with all time or at least a top top, 436 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: top tier defense. We've seen that win super Bowls before 437 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: with the Ravens, with the Bucks, with the Ravens again, 438 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: like we've seen that happen. 439 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 440 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 441 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 442 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: listen live. 443 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: Rob, Do you got any odd mob up? Don't forget 444 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: Lamar Mitchell's coming up in about twenty eight minutes. Anybody 445 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: have a problem with me having a blank ballot or not. 446 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: I'm just curious. 447 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: You've got you got people that are arguing with one 448 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 5: other person like going back and forth, trying to make 449 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: the case here but undecided says King Felix should be 450 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame. Pitch the perfect game one 451 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 5: to say young wasn't his fault. He didn't get any 452 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: run support with the Mariners, Okay, and that's fair. 453 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, King Phyllis was good. He just won the Hall 454 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 4: of Fame. And this is my favorite one. Let me 455 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: read this here. 456 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 5: Z Maine says, by Rob's logic, that means ELI should 457 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: be in the Hall of very good. 458 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: May your your football standards are different than your baseball. 459 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: ELI beat the eighteen and old Patriot. 460 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: He won two Super Bowl stuff talk about not one 461 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: he didn't luck into one. 462 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: He didn't he won last. 463 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: One easy, thirty eight to ninety four, says Andrew Jones 464 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: should be in the Hall of Fame. 465 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: Great defense, great. 466 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: Hit, That's what I say. Those are the two all right, 467 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: Rob too. I'm not even gonna look. I want you 468 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: to look up Andrew Joel's lifetime batting aver you just say, actually, 469 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: he said, great hitter, look up his lifetime batting app 470 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. 471 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: Have it up already, you're ready. Two fifty four. There 472 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 4: you go. And I knew that that's a hall of 473 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: two fifty four is a Hall of famer. 474 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Twenty hey, I'll tell you the twenty twenties is about 475 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: to be. I'll tell you ain't for real in the 476 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenties. 477 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: It's gonna be. So you're gonna be voting at eighty 478 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: eight years old, it's gonna be. 479 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: He added to thirty six. Yeah, his war and his 480 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: vour was incredible. Strikeouts, don't nobody care about them. 481 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: Don't worry about how many strikeouts he had trying to 482 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: pay two fifty four, Like, you're some hall of fame. 483 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: You should be next to Hank Aaron or Willie Mays. 484 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: Can we stop you? You know what? You misstop most blanketness? 485 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: That's fine. Guess what? 486 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: Guess what that was? Then Aaron Judge by the three 487 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: thirty one this passion and Aaron Judges thirty three thirty 488 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: one like The next guy voting in is Clayton Kersh. 489 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now. 490 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 5: I looked at the ballot next six years, not that 491 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 5: saying that's the only one. 492 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: He's gonna want five years from now. You know what 493 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: I mean, when he gets on. 494 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 5: The ballot, I'm saying, like between now and then, no, 495 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: you're not gonna get a lot of No. 496 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: We don't doubt slam duncial, We don't. We don't know. 497 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: I don't know who's next, you know what I mean, 498 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: you have to wait out five years, so I don't 499 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: know who's coming this year. I just didn't see anybody 500 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: who was really could not vote for Beltram, so once 501 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: he's the only one that once I don't vote for you, 502 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: I never vote for you because your stats don't change. 503 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: And once I vote for you, I always vote. Is 504 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: there so I know you got to never there is 505 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: there a casual whether we're doing this or bar barbershop conversation, 506 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: maybe one point of view you didn't think of me 507 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: and somebody said no. 508 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: By the time I do that, by the time I 509 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: do it, I've given it a thought, you know what 510 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: I mean, Like you. 511 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: Know, and I wonder if there's like a narrative like 512 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: a consider this per his peers, blah blah blah, that. 513 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: Could even as simple as this is way change is it? Well, 514 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: we let Chase Utley in. So I'm not the guy's 515 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 5: numbers were much better than his. I'm not in that 516 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: camp because most of the people rob g that. People 517 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: question and say, well, he's Harold Baines is in. 518 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame? Right, how was Gary Sheffield? Not exactly? 519 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: So you look at that. 520 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: The problem is the writers didn't vote Harold Baines in. 521 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: He came in through the back door the Veterans Committee. 522 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: So from the writer's standpoint, I look at my right 523 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: as the writers. So there are people in the Hall 524 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: of Fame who you question, and most of them except 525 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: Scott Rowland is one that the writers put in that 526 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: I highly questioned. But most of the questionable Hall of 527 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: Famers came in through the back door after the writers 528 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: didn't vote them, and they got voted in by the 529 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: Veterans Committee or they're you know, they renamed it. But 530 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: that's made up a former executives of general managers of managers, right, 531 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: and maybe two or three writers, but not the writers. 532 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: So that's it, all right, I'm gonna throw out some 533 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: names real quick, because now we're having fun. We're here 534 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: now two rob G's and our point. I'm just gonna 535 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: throw out some people kind of this era who eventually 536 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: would obviously retiring and eventually be You tell me, like, 537 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: I'll just I'm Freddy Freeman. 538 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Freddy Freeman. I mean, without even I think he'll 539 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: be there, Okay, I mean I think Mookie, Yeah, yeah, 540 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 3: Mookie's won four World Series? 541 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: How many he's won? Is it four now with the 542 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 4: Red Sox. 543 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: Three with the Dodgers? Yeah, with twenty eighteen with the 544 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: Dinner and he won m VP sureser Yes, let's say 545 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Erlander Yep, Kershaw yep, Washington, Roggie old tiny. 546 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: No, not yet, not yet. He's only played eight years. 547 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: Not what? No, not yet. Boy. If that boy stopped 548 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: playing baseball. 549 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, he ain't in the Hall of Fame. If he 550 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: stopped tomorrow, eight years not enough. I'm telling what. He 551 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: don't even have a lifetime. 552 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: Three hundred batting average? Does he have to have that? 553 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: Asking you do it? Does it? He does not? Without looking? 554 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: I mean he might be like two eighty eight. You 555 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: don't have a lifetime three hundred batting average. 556 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: If show said to ride my family fifty to fifty, 557 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: multiple MVP not good enough. 558 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: Multiple World Series played eight years coming, it's. 559 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: The minimum year that I gotta play eight years. I'm 560 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: saying more than that. For eight years I was insane. 561 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Why do I got to play more? 562 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Aaron played twenty how many years he played? 563 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: He played twenty years of consistency? Eight year career? Is 564 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: not gonna let me follow this up? Aaron Judge retired today? No, yeah, right, 565 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: you know we're gonna see your vote. Right? How many years? 566 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 4: But he's got how many years? The person believes that 567 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: you got ten years? I think almost. Ken Rosenthal, h R. 568 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: You give me a copy of Rob's ballot, please you 569 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: hear me? Got him? I guarantee you won't post that 570 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: ballot I'm talking about. 571 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. 572 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: No, I make my ballot very You would not if 573 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: you know I've done enough, I've tried my best. I'm tired. 574 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: I want to go home. Aaron Judge's first ballot might 575 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: not you know what, I know he's not eligible. So 576 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: thirty two, what's vote m in now? He's already man. 577 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: If you don't, I might not even be eligible to 578 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: vote by that time, because no, it's five years after 579 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: he retire, so I might be retired and depending on 580 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: where I am in my career, my baseball writers card, 581 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: you get a card, but if you don't go to 582 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 3: enough ball games and stuff after you, you know, you don't. 583 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: Get a vote anymore. 584 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 6: They take away writers who are not active who might 585 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: have what's called they take their cards their votes away, 586 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 6: So you don't you know, it's not automatic that Aaron 587 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 6: Judge got seven eight more years, right, I retire in 588 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 6: five and then it's five more years. 589 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: Before he's on the ballot. 590 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: Right, all right, let's get let's get to the Chicago Bears, 591 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: Rob g coaches and executives and Caleb Williams. There are 592 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people who doubted this guy, am I right? 593 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: Yep? 594 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: They're calling this the odd Couple Bowl too. That's what 595 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: I heard on the streets. Caleb Williams and the Bears, 596 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford in the Rams. For some reason, the battle 597 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: lines have been drawn. 598 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: They think that. 599 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 5: Rob is a Caleb guy, so obviously they're going head 600 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: to head. Now, who won the last Bowl? 601 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: Right? Wait? Did you? Yeah? Yeah? 602 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that one? So well, dangd I I'll 603 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: roll with this one. Shout out to that mile. 604 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: I'm with it. Let's do it. 605 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams on the season is rally the Bears to 606 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: seven wins after trailing in the final two minutes of regulations, 607 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: most any team since nineteen seventy this season. 608 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: Here's more context, three and three. 609 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 5: Three and three went trailing by ten or more points 610 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 5: in the final five minutes of a game. For context, 611 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: the rest of the NFL three and one fifty one. 612 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's a crazy stat is a real thing, right. 613 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 5: The only problem is the Athletics surveyed eleven anonymous executive 614 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: and coaches around the NFL to get their thoughts for 615 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 5: this game Bears Rams. Nine of them pick the Rams 616 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: rather easily. They think they're just a much better team 617 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: and the magic is gonna wear off this weekend. 618 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 4: Do you agree, Rob? 619 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: I disagree. And they didn't see the forecast in Chicago either. 620 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: That has me shook it more than anything, Rob G. 621 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 3: Have you seen the pictures? 622 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 4: Man? Not a pretty picture in Chicago in January? It 623 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: is bad. 624 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: I think it's easy to just automatically pick the Rams 625 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 3: and think that they're going to win. 626 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: Why though, Because they already record. 627 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 3: No, they already won a championship, and so you just 628 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: believe that they always have an advantage. 629 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: The Bears are head of schedule. 630 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: Nobody believed that when Ben Johnson took over Week two, 631 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: Rob g they gave up fifty two points to the 632 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: lines and got their asses kick. Okay, you go back 633 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: to remembering that going on. It's gonna be a long season. 634 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: The Bears aren't ready, They're they're terrible to where they are. 635 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: So I'm saying it's logical to take the proven commodity 636 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: to thing that you already have seen one, right, even 637 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: though they are different players and different things. 638 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: But McVeigh is still there. 639 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 3: Uh, and all that they got Davante Adams, there's no 640 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: reason to think that they can't win. But if you 641 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: they were ten and a half point favorites against the Panthers, 642 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: there was a struggle to win that game. 643 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't that was a disrespectful spread though I said 644 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: that in real time, which I'm like, whoa that you take? 645 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: You take the what you take? 646 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Picked the Panthers because I said. 647 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: That they would win the Rams. Remember I said, but 648 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: that Panthers will cover ten. 649 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: That's from a team that beats you already and they're 650 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: playing quality football. The Panthers not like they're a horrible 651 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: team that was that was perplexing. You can there are 652 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: horrible teams that don't get that kind of spread, not 653 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: a playoff team that was really bad. 654 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what was going on. 655 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: But uh, I think this will be a different game 656 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: in that they won't have to come from behind, like 657 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: like there comes this point where you've done that. Every 658 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: game doesn't have to be that way, and I think 659 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: that this could be that game where they get it going. 660 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: Ben Jonson is not going on it going for fourth 661 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: down all the time and playing mad. Coaches have lost 662 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: because they put him in a bad spot. They could 663 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: have taken a field goal early like like this stuff, 664 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: what's a goal? 665 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: You know? 666 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: But you get my point, like like you got now 667 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: this is for this is a chance to get to 668 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game. And that's why, you know, with 669 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: the Lions and that like that is what made Dan 670 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: gamble so bad because they had a chance to go 671 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: to Super Bowl. 672 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: They really like they really really did want me to 673 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: jump over this table. 674 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: It's like, know what I'm saying, Keep bringing that up. Well, 675 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 4: I was watching that in real time. They were buying 676 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: tickets on Spirit. David Russell, I'm calling you and your pops. No, no, 677 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: it's cool. This is what we do. We go for it. 678 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: I said, hey, why would we not take the three? 679 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: It's still be up to three score. That's what we do. 680 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: But we're good, were good? No, I was, no, game, 681 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: can't getting tired. And that's said, you know what you're 682 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: doing by doing that? The reason, well he should have 683 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: caught that fourth and two. No, no, it feels the 684 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: pressure now we gotta have this. You feel the momentium 685 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: of the forty now. I kept telling you, I don't 686 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: know what NFL teams are doing this. Now I'm like, 687 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: do you not see why not take the point? And 688 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I text you will be in our group, text like 689 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: why aren't teams taking it three? It's the weirdest thing 690 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: now but here, So my only my only thing is 691 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things is this And I said it 692 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: as we've talked about the Bears, and I said it 693 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: just a moment ago, jokingly, but I'm really asking, like 694 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: why you don't believe they will be but why have 695 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: they Why do we always have to be down? 696 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 697 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: And Caleb talked about the interview, He's like, you know, 698 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of basically, I finally get my mojo going late. 699 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: That's when I operate my best. I'm kind of like, 700 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm okay with you having first three quarters playing the 701 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: best too. 702 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, and you're very close to 703 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: this example because the two thousand and four pieces that 704 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: won the championship used to do the same exact thing. 705 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: And what was the famous quote from Chauncey Billups about 706 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: the switch one. 707 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 4: For a rough. 708 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what because people used to say, why 709 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: you always put yourself in these kind of situations and 710 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: they wanted they beat the Lakers to shock Kobe Lakers, okay, 711 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: and people. 712 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: Rob g always hates because that was the game when 713 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: you had Shack and Kobe buff only had eleven points. 714 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. No, it was. 715 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: It was one of the all times beat them down. 716 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: But you get my point, and that was that team. 717 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why it's different. At least in basketball, 718 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: I have seven cracks at it. Potentially football, no, but done. 719 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying there teams like that, sometimes 720 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: you can't live like that all the time there for 721 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: the rest of his career. 722 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: But this might be the year, just like the Pacers 723 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 4: stay in football. I'll give you and I want talk 724 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: about this at work. 725 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of New York guys at the 726 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: job at Spectrum and I said, where, I'll give you. 727 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 4: This is football. 728 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: It's not like the NBA, where ninety five percent of 729 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: time the best team wins. We all kind of go 730 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: all right, that was the best team. And football, you 731 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: get hot at the right moment, a couple of things 732 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: break your way. 733 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: Steelers have done that, Giants did it twice. Where you 734 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 4: weren't the best team was the sixteen when the Rodgers 735 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: won in Super Bowl six. 736 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: There are times where we just got hot, the right 737 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: thing happened. The weather was tough, made it hard for 738 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: the Rams, and it can happen. So but my only thing, 739 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: if I'm Ben Johnson, I'm saying I don't against this 740 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: team and that poton offense. I don't want us to 741 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: get in that position. You said, you know we're down 742 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: fourteen seventeen. We can do it again. I just don't 743 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: want so if they win this game and they come back, 744 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what would that say? To you, Well, 745 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: tell me the level of a coming, meaning forty coming. 746 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: That's different than when twenty one three and a half time. 747 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: You don't want to be down twenty one three. They're 748 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: not coming back twenty one three. That's what I'm saying. 749 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh you sure, because because Seattle came back from down 750 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: sixteen points. John McVay ain't doing that in sixteen points 751 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, not the second half, in the 752 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. So they've already hooked a choke game on 753 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: the ramp again. 754 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Anglo was in the postseason up twenty one three, 755 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: not to this, not to a Bear team that's ahead 756 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: of schedule, and this was twenty fifteen Patriots or something. 757 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Tom bradyn't been there. This is what he do. 758 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: This is what he does, even a Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick, 759 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: when he was in his bag, you know, a couple 760 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: of years ago, that wasn't crazy to imagine, all right. 761 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: Eight seven seven, got another hot couple of ball ninety 762 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six. Yeah, 763 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: we can put wings on it, yep, wings on it. Wings? Yeah, 764 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: rob Ge another another bet bight, Like some guys need 765 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: to go to gambler's anonymous. 766 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't learn I have killed it this football season 767 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: and he's still rob you know, speaking of that, you 768 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: know what's worse is we got a guy who's on 769 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: a crusade against prop bets and gambling and whatever, does 770 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: a nightly segment called Shekel City. 771 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: Where's his three best bets of the night? Hey, but 772 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 4: I ain't telling you who to. There's my disclaimer. There's 773 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: my disclaimer.