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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Boda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's craigcriol.

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Speaker 1: Good news. Oh, you made the team at least the

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Speaker 3: Okay, where's my jersey? JG talks about if you make

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Speaker 3: Okay that you have that I have that. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Where's the paycheck? Like they get paid?

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough?

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Speaker 1: of course, you know the number two overall pick in

436
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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. Xavier Weaver was still able to have over

437
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Speaker 1: nine hundred yards, a handful of touchdowns, sixty plus receptions

438
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Speaker 1: during his time in Colorado with Shador Sanders as his quarterback.

439
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: He showed that ability to stretch the field a little

440
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Speaker 1: bit more and kind of be able to take the

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Speaker 1: top off. And that's something that this coaching staff doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily implement a ton into their scouting reports. Here, because

443
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Speaker 1: if that's the case, you would have seen Xavier Weaver

444
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Speaker 1: a lot more last year. But to have that ability

445
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Speaker 1: to have somebody that's out there. We talk about the size,

446
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Speaker 1: and that's something you and I have talked about off

447
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Speaker 1: air and in different programs about the size of our

448
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers. So many of them are above six feet tall.

449
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Speaker 1: Zavid Weaver is not He's not there. He's not the

450
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the build or the size of Marvin

451
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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior, or a Michael Wilson, or is a Jones.

452
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Speaker 1: He's kind of in his own in his own field. Essentially,

453
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Speaker 1: his his frame is very different.

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Speaker 3: So to have a player that has the ability to

455
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Speaker 3: stretch the field, you want to at least be able

456
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Speaker 3: to have that in your back pocket. Simmy Fajoko remains

457
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Speaker 3: in the building. He's just on the practice squad, he

458
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Speaker 3: said in his video, which I love the transparency from

459
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Speaker 3: some of these players. Michael Carter was very transparent in

460
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Speaker 3: his press conference last week. Simmy Fajoko very transparent about

461
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Speaker 3: the emotions with getting cut. But when you have a

462
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Speaker 3: player that also in the back of their mind knowes, hey,

463
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna still be ending up in that building just

464
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Speaker 3: on their practice squad, and they don't come in with

465
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Speaker 3: that Animi city that that Parashownson Junior was talking about

466
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, that that is invaluable just to

467
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Speaker 3: how they're able to come into the building and make

468
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Speaker 3: an impact still even if they're not on the fifty three.

469
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Speaker 3: Michael Carter discussed he learned it took a little while

470
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Speaker 3: for him to learn that even though you've been released,

471
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Speaker 3: it does not mean you can't play football on Sundays, Mondays,

472
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Speaker 3: Thursdays or whatever it is. It just might not be

473
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Speaker 3: here with this particular team for whatever reason, a numbers crunch,

474
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Speaker 3: financial contracts play a role and who makes the fifty

475
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Speaker 3: three and who doesn't. Who comes back to the practice

476
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Speaker 3: squad And was good to see Michael Carter back on

477
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Speaker 3: the practice field on Wednesday, just as a part of

478
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Speaker 3: the practice squad. By the way, Zave.

479
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Speaker 1: Weaver ran a four four to two forty at the

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Speaker 1: Colorado Pro Day. So again that speed element. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: is tall, but the frame that you mentioned one eighty

482
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Speaker 1: five versus you know, the two fifteen, two twenties of

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Speaker 1: everyone else in that room not named Greg Dory. That again,

484
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: now you have it on the roster, but you got

485
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Speaker 1: to be active on game day, and that's going to

486
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Speaker 1: be something to pay attention to. How often is that

487
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Speaker 1: element actually active on Sundays?

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Speaker 3: And with Zay Weaver, because you mentioned the pro day stats,

489
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Speaker 3: he was coming off of a shoulder surgery, so he

490
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Speaker 3: was still kind of reeling with the effects of that.

491
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if it's closer to a four

492
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Speaker 3: to four zero than a four to four to two.

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Speaker 1: Even the only questions are the only surprises on the

494
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Speaker 1: defensive unless there was some other surprise offensively for you.

495
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Speaker 1: As far as who's in who's not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the the two main ones were

497
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Speaker 3: those because you knew that you weren't going to be

498
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Speaker 3: keeping Clayton Tune at least you kind of expected that

499
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: you were going to be keeping two quarterbacks on the roster,

500
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: Clayton Tune actually going to Green Bay to join their

501
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Speaker 3: practice squad. So happy to see that the former Cardinals

502
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: still getting an opportunity in the league. You always wish

503
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: those kind of guys the best. But beyond that, though,

504
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: everything is kind of as plain.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals do have at least as we speak here

506
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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, I'm gonna reiterate this as we speak

507
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday. The Cardinals do have seven defensive

508
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: linemen in the room. I say that because one, it's

509
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: not a surprise that it's seven. The question comes is

510
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Justin Jones, who was not seen during the open portion

511
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Speaker 1: of practice on Wednesday. He has not practiced for several

512
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: weeks now, and if you looked at the fifty three

513
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: man roster, you notice a big hole in that roster.

514
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: Cardinals currently do not have a long snapper. Yeah. Now

515
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: that is going to change quickly, maybe even by the

516
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Speaker 1: time you listen to this bird gang. But the Cardinals

517
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Speaker 1: will have a long snapper. It will be Aaron Brewer.

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Speaker 1: This is not the first time the Cardinals have played

519
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: this roster gymnastics with Aaron. It's in it's the ability

520
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: to get someone hurt, someone that maybe is not quite

521
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: ready to play week one on IR but designated to

522
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Speaker 1: return because the rules allow only two of those players

523
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Speaker 1: during an initial and those two players are Hayden Connor

524
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: and Christian Jones. Justin Jones, because we haven't seen him,

525
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: would appear to be the guy that makes the initial roster.

526
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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the next day gets placed

527
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Speaker 1: on ir designated to return, opens up his spot. Hey, Aaron,

528
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: welcome back. He never left. Cardinals had their long snapper

529
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Speaker 1: and six defensive linemen, same number they kept a year ago.

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Speaker 3: This is the time for us to ask Jeff Rodgers

531
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Speaker 3: who is the emergency long snapper?

532
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Speaker 1: He does have one, but he's never answered that question.

533
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Speaker 3: This might have I'm won media availability right now while

534
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: that question's fresh. But look, it doesn't even matter because

535
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Speaker 3: by the time we do speak with Jeff Rodgers, Aaron

536
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Speaker 3: Brewer is likely going to be back in the building.

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Speaker 3: And I know I was asked by somebody, why would

538
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Speaker 3: they potentially even dangle giving a consistent or bringing or

539
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Speaker 3: putting out a consistent long snapper like Aaron Brewer, one

540
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Speaker 3: of the best in the game, still with over a

541
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Speaker 3: decade plus of experience. Why would they put somebody like

542
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Speaker 3: that out on the free agency market? And the answer

543
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: is pretty simple, because it's a two way street when

544
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Speaker 3: you sign this contract, and Aaron Brewer is not signing

545
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: anywhere else he would I think that with somebody of

546
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: his tenure in the league, they're closer to retirement, they're

547
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: wanting to pick up and move to a completely new city.

548
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: And restructure absolutely everything that's not needed. And Aaron Brewer.

549
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Speaker 3: In the recent handful of years, they've brought in different

550
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Speaker 3: long snappers to compete with Aaron Brewer, and he has

551
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: always beat them out. This is just the game of

552
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: roster gymnastics that every general manager is being tabbed with

553
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: playing right now. With Justin Jones case, you suspect that

554
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Speaker 3: it could potentially be him that lands on on injured

555
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: reserve with the designation to return. At some point, you

556
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: knew that if you let go of Hayden Connor, or

557
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: of or even if you put one of those guys

558
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: on the roster, you're potentially giving up Josh Fryer to

559
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: the market. So it is a completely different game of

560
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: roster gymnastics. The waiver wire is a funky game that

561
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: a lot of these general managers need to master. But

562
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Speaker 3: if Justin Jones does land on injured reserve, that is

563
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Speaker 3: also why you have guys like PJ. Musta for that

564
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: are gonna be on the fifty three that are on

565
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Speaker 3: the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: The disappointment when you're talking about the defensive line room

567
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: is seeing Walter Nolan remaining on pup and again now

568
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: he's got to miss four weeks four games in the

569
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Speaker 1: regular season before he can even step on the practice field.

570
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: So when he does step on the practice field, and

571
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Speaker 1: considering he hasn't done any football activities before the start

572
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: of training camp, it's gonna be probably at least two weeks,

573
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Speaker 1: maybe even three weeks of practice time before you see

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Speaker 1: Walt on the field, so you're looking at maybe week

575
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Speaker 1: six or week seven. That was the one disappointment because

576
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Speaker 1: I think the thought process was in order to get

577
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Speaker 1: well on the practice field, take him off pup, let

578
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Speaker 1: him practice for a couple of weeks. He misses a

579
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Speaker 1: couple of games, be wridy week three, week four. Obviously,

580
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Speaker 1: this is a long term play with a first round

581
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: pick dealing with a calf injury, and considering the Cardinals

582
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: were in this position a year ago with Darius Robinson differences.

583
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Speaker 1: D rob did have a full training camp and preseason,

584
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: so he was participating in football activities. But if you

585
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Speaker 1: invest a first round pick in someone like well, now,

586
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's okay, we expect you to

587
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: be around seven, eight, nine, ten plus years. If you're

588
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna miss a third of the season your first year

589
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: in the league, that's okay, because we're looking this as

590
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: a long term relationship, not just something that's gonna be

591
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: three years and out the door.

592
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Speaker 3: And with the big guys too, you have to navigate

593
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: it a little bit more carefully. Whoever helped Will Hernandez

594
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: with his recovery, you have to help that, even though

595
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: it's not the same injury, but they go they give

596
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: him all the tap on the shoulder and say, hey,

597
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: help out our first round rookie as well. In Walt's case,

598
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 3: it's definitely a shame because he is a player that

599
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: so much was made about his love of football and

600
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: if he actually loves the game or not. During the

601
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: pre draft process, I know that was something that even

602
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Speaker 3: a legendary coach like Nick Saban discussed when talking about

603
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Speaker 3: Walter Nolan, just about the passion that he might have

604
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Speaker 3: or might not have for it.

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Speaker 1: And in a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: That we were able to watch Walt practice, you could

607
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: see that passion. You could see how much he genuinely

608
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: does love the game. So you feel for a guy

609
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: that gets an injury just days before training camp begins,

610
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Speaker 3: at least from what we've been or at least what

611
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: has been reported and speculated in Walt's case, so you

612
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: hope that you get him out there soon. You don't

613
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: want to have any setbacks, though, you want to be

614
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: careful with this. The calves are a very tender, sensitive

615
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: part of the body and that's something that they saw

616
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Speaker 3: with Darius Robinson last year. And I understand that there's

617
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: a lot of fear about Walt because Darius Robinson did

618
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: not get out on the field until week twelve or

619
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Speaker 3: week thirteen when they went to go play the Minnesota Vikings.

620
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Speaker 3: It's a very different situation. Darius was right before the

621
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Speaker 3: season began and he had a lot of other situations

622
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Speaker 3: that were happening into his life. Walt, I do expect

623
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Speaker 3: kind of maybe you're right around. The bye week is

624
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: when we could really start to see what Walter Nolan

625
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: brings to the table.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point I forgot about the bye week

627
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: in where lands that could actually benefit Walt as far

628
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: as his recovery and an extra week of practice before

629
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Speaker 1: you have to make that decision, and if you don't,

630
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: then he is done for the season.

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Speaker 3: Joanah Williams was the player last year that came off

632
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: injured reserve, had the bye week and then his first

633
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: game back was when they went to Seattle. So the

634
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: bye week is definitely something that I think when you're

635
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: looking at the ramp up there, Walter Nolan the third

636
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: cannot practice until after the Seattle Seahawks game going into

637
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: Week five against the Tennessee Titans, if I'm not mistaken,

638
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: that's when you could start to work out and start

639
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: to rejoin the team if he's able to, if he's

640
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: healthy enough at that point. And with that happening, you

641
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: expect maybe he misses that first game against Tannessee because

642
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: you want him to start to work his way back

643
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: into getting into football shape and game better to put

644
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: him on the pads for the first time. He hasn't

645
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: put on the pad since he was at ol Miss,

646
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: and so I think potentially around maybe even after the

647
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: bye week going into Dallas. I wouldn't surprise me if

648
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: that's his first game. Another that speculation too, Oh yeah, speculations,

649
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: that's what we do here. I mean, we are informative speculators, yes,

650
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: but we were not inforformed about Walt's injury that we're

651
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: solely speculating on. Hey, all you have to know is

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Speaker 3: that we think we're in the note, yet Bam Knight

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Speaker 3: made the team and no one, no one let me

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Speaker 3: say that again.

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Speaker 1: No one saw that one coming. Even with Simmy Fayoko.

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Speaker 3: We had an articles Darren's aftermath and he wrote a

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Speaker 3: sentence and they're like, Simmy will be.

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Speaker 1: On this team. We all anticipated that.

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Speaker 3: And that's not to say don't trust us. We still

660
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Speaker 3: know things, but we don't know everything.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a surprise at least reading some

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Speaker 1: assessments of the Cardinals fifty three man roster and the

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Speaker 1: fact that six cornerbacks, five safeties eleven total dbs, five

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Speaker 1: safety is not a surprise because of the special teams element.

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Speaker 1: You know about Buddha, JT and Rabbit, but Joey Blunt

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Speaker 1: is an impact player on special teams and Keaton Crawford

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Speaker 1: has over a thousand snaps on special teams in college.

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Speaker 1: So it didn't surprise me that you kept five six cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's a young cornerback room after Garrett Max and Will

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Speaker 1: Johnson as far as your top three, but Key Trell

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Speaker 1: Clark makes the team, Elijah Jones in year two makes

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Speaker 1: the team over though year one was a wash. And

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Speaker 1: then Denzel Burke, your fifth round pick, out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Your favorite school makes the team as well, so those

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Speaker 1: are your six. Garrett's the quote veteran in that room.

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Speaker 1: So again you know your first three and you'll see

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Speaker 1: who's active on game day based off their special teams play.

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Speaker 3: Fortunately for the Cardinals now it's not nearly as much

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Speaker 3: NFL experience outside of a guy like Kee Troll Clark,

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Speaker 3: but the back end has a lot of football experience.

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Speaker 3: Denzel Burke at Ohio State for the five years, Elijah

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Speaker 3: Jones at Boston College as a He had a red

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Speaker 3: shirt season as well, so I'm pretty sure he was

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Speaker 3: at Boston College for either five or six seasons if

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. So yes, he did lose that his

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Speaker 3: rookie season with the Cardinals. Still, though, he comes in

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Speaker 3: with a lot of football experience.

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Speaker 1: When you're on an.

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Speaker 3: Island like the way that these cornerbacks are and on

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Speaker 3: a highway, as Nick Rollis likes to describe it, you're

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Speaker 3: you cannot get better outside of just getting reps. So

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Speaker 3: that's a little bit tough for these players a Denzel

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Speaker 3: Burke and Elijah Jones who don't have the NFL experience,

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Speaker 3: but soon enough and a highway is a highway, regardless

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Speaker 3: of how it's described. Just the talent on the other side,

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Speaker 3: whoever your wide receiver is that you're guarding, and whoever

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Speaker 3: the quarterback is that could potentially exploit it. That's the

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Speaker 3: main difference. And those are huge differences, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: But it's still good to know that these players do

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Speaker 3: have that experience. And Kee Troll Clark was a starter

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Speaker 3: for majority of his rookie season. Things changed last year.

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Speaker 3: They had Starling Thomas going into his second year and

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Speaker 3: Max Mountain starting to find a way for his own,

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Speaker 3: and you also had Searan Murphy Bunting. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: surprised though, to see a little bit of Kee Troll

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Speaker 3: Klark out there.

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Speaker 1: Just because of Elijah Jones. Is he ready? He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of practice time, let alone game reps

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Speaker 1: because last season he didn't see the field at all.

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Speaker 1: But someone as a former third round pick, it's a

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Speaker 1: high draft pick. You don't want to cut ties after

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Speaker 1: just one season. Can he be more of the roster

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Speaker 1: being used as developmental keeping someone that okay, you have

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Speaker 1: you see something in the future, whether that's week eight,

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Speaker 1: Week twelve, or next season, but you know that if

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Speaker 1: you expose him to the waiver wire, chances are you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get them back to the practice squad

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Speaker 1: because of the talent that they had coming out of college.

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Speaker 3: The top one hundred guys mal Kai Corley, a wide

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Speaker 3: receiver who was with the Jets, was a third round

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Speaker 3: pick from last year, was way and the leveland Browns,

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Speaker 3: who are at the top of the waiver wire right

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Speaker 3: away put a claim in for him. That would happen

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Speaker 3: with Elijah Jones if they let him out the building,

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Speaker 3: because he is still a top one hundred guy, and

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Speaker 3: you don't just let guys like that walk out the

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Speaker 3: door unless there is a sincere reason for them to

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Speaker 3: walk out the door. In Elijah's case, he just needs

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Speaker 3: that development. They praise him a ton for his knowledge

730
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Speaker 3: and understanding of the playbook, and that in Nick Rolis,

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Speaker 3: the scheme should not be understated enough, like it is

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Speaker 3: something that is super important to this organization. Now it's

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Speaker 3: just a matter of the game reps. The development with

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Speaker 3: Xavier Weaver, that's kind of the way I look at

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Speaker 3: it close enough, because you had a guy that you

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Speaker 3: didn't want to let out the building, but you kept

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Speaker 3: him in the building. To be a developmental guy, somebody

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Speaker 3: that could be kind of that hybrid between a scout guy,

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Speaker 3: but also you know you have a potential role for

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Speaker 3: them if it's potentially possible. Elijah Jones case I with

741
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Speaker 3: the amount that this organization, in this football staff is

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Speaker 3: going to start using nickel packages and die packages as

743
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Speaker 3: frequently as you and I discussed them using soon enough,

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Speaker 3: there is a role potentially if somebody gets injured. You

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Speaker 3: need to have confidence in those players. Denzel Burke wouldn't

746
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Speaker 3: surprise me if you signed him into a Garrett Williams

747
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Speaker 3: kind of role, or you elevate a guy like Darren

748
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Speaker 3: Hall to play that nickel cornerback spot, or you need

749
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Speaker 3: somebody on the outside. That's when Elijah Jones comes in.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the cornerback room. The Cardinals did have one

751
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Speaker 1: player claimed off waivers that they had released, and that

752
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Speaker 1: is Jalen Jones claimed by the Bears. The Cardinals were

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Speaker 1: not awarded any players off the wave wide. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if they put in a claim to anyone.

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Speaker 1: But as far as losing players and hoping that you

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Speaker 1: can slide someone onto the practice squad, we talk about

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Speaker 1: it every year going into those final cuts, Oh you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get claimed, and there's a big fear. And then

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Speaker 1: you see the number of waiver claims. At least that

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Speaker 1: we saw on Wednesday, I think there was one running

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Speaker 1: back claimed, two or three wide receivers one. So everyone

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Speaker 1: wants to keep their own players because they have the

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Speaker 1: investment in those players, they know the most about those players.

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Speaker 1: And because of that, the stress level of potentially losing

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Speaker 1: someone if you exposed into waivers, I don't think is

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Speaker 1: nearly as high as maybe it was once upon a time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day, the waiver wire was viewed

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Speaker 3: totally different. And now with the roster gymnastics that we

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Speaker 3: spent the first portion of Cardinals cover too, talking about

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Speaker 3: it drastically changes. I still think even we were at

771
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Speaker 3: fault last year, we all expected Michael Carter to be

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Speaker 3: out the building when we saw that he was not

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Speaker 3: going to be there, a guy like Chris Barnes as well.

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Speaker 3: Last year, you expect for these players to be claimed,

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Speaker 3: and the staffs they when they don't have as much

776
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Speaker 3: familiarity with them. With some of these players, Jalen Jones

777
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Speaker 3: goes back to Chicago. He spent time in Chicago, so

778
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Speaker 3: they're claiming a guy that they were familiar with, that

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Speaker 3: they did not see, that they did not sign during

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Speaker 3: free agency. Now they're just able to claim him and

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Speaker 3: continue on from his contract. You don't want to let

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Speaker 3: the guys that you like walk out the door A

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Speaker 3: and B. In most cases, the guys you do like already.

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Speaker 1: In the building. Is just a matter of how can

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Speaker 1: you keep them in the building. Twenty one of the

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Speaker 1: fifty three players on the initial fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: twenty one are Monty austin Ford draft picks, so twenty

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Speaker 1: one of his twenty eight selections as general manager are

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Speaker 1: on the fifty three. Now twenty six are still in

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Speaker 1: the building, whether on ir or practice squad. The only

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Speaker 1: two players who are no longer in the building Clayton

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Speaker 1: Tune and Jaydeen Davis. Those are the only two draft

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Speaker 1: picks that are no longer in the building. And then

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Speaker 1: it speaks to again the visual one, the scouting and

795
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Speaker 1: then the selection process, and then going back to our

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Speaker 1: point about the waiver claims, you make an investment in

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Speaker 1: these young individuals. You want to give him a chance

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Speaker 1: to succeed and prove that they belong. And I think

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Speaker 1: that speaks a lot that twenty six of the twenty

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Speaker 1: eight still remain here in the in the building.

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Speaker 3: And it gets into the thirties when you start to

802
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Speaker 3: look at the free agency acquisitions that they that they

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Speaker 3: brought in, and that's something that Mani has his fingerprints

804
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Speaker 3: all over, and his scouting department, the pro scouting departments

805
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Speaker 3: have their blue have their fingerprints all over because they

806
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Speaker 3: had a vision, a blueprint of what they wanted this

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Speaker 3: team to be like. And when a guy, when an organization,

808
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Speaker 3: a regime comes into an organization they try to take over,

809
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Speaker 3: you still have a lot you have to completely revamp it.

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Speaker 3: And it's been impressive to see how Jonathan Gannon and

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Speaker 3: Mani Austin Fort have been able to instill their ideologies

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Speaker 3: on this team in such a short amount of time,

813
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Speaker 3: because three years in the league seems like a lifetime,

814
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Speaker 3: but in reality that with the hundreds of players and

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Speaker 3: hundreds of contracts that they have tona Gate, it's impressive

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Speaker 3: to see how much they've been able to do in

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Speaker 3: such little amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Anything else roster wise, that was weighing heavily on your

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Speaker 1: mind that you want to get out here.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily, I'm just I'm just think we to be

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Speaker 3: very interested to see what Justin Jones' status is going

822
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Speaker 3: to be and what that could potentially do for players

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Speaker 3: like Elijah Simmons or if they end up bringing different

824
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Speaker 3: players in. You know that you're gonna be signing Aaron

825
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Speaker 3: Brewer and that's going to fill out the fifty three.

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Speaker 3: But the Cardinals also have three practice squad spots still available.

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Speaker 3: You have the only two quarterbacks in the building, and

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Speaker 3: we know the staff likes to have three. Clayton Tune

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Speaker 3: is now on Green Bay's practice squad. Who do the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals bring in? Because they will be bringing in a

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Speaker 3: quarterback to have on the scout team. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: very interested to see who that will end up being.

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Speaker 1: We go first full circle here on Cardinals cover to

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Speaker 1: very fluid the roster, not only the fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: but the practice squad as well. A day of practice

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Speaker 1: on Thursday at bonus practice on Monday, which is Labor Day,

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Speaker 1: and then Wednesday is kind of when rell of things

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Speaker 1: really kick into gear as far as you get into

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Speaker 1: your routine of three days of practice, walk through slash

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Speaker 1: travel or a home game to get ready for and

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Speaker 1: then we are there, and we are a week from Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Week one in New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: The clock is starting to tick down and we're starting

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Speaker 3: to get very close to its New Orleans announcements.

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Speaker 1: Starting quarterback. That's that's true.

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Speaker 3: Rattler, Arizona, the Pride a Pinnacle Prep. If I'm not mistaken, correct,

847
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Speaker 3: well done. I watched his I watched him on the

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Speaker 3: Netflix series. That's how I knew who Censor Ratler was before.

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Speaker 1: Either way, whichever quarterback it was gonna be, it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be an Arizona Prep.

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Speaker 3: Either you're gonna have a Chandler guy or a Pinnacle

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Speaker 3: Prep guy, and it's it's gonna be interesting. He's owing

853
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Speaker 3: six as a starter in the NFL. The Cardinals hope

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Speaker 3: to make that one seven. Now. You don't want to

855
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Speaker 3: beat up the Arizona kid too much, but I hope

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Speaker 3: that the Cardinals beat up the Arizona Kid.

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Speaker 1: A little bit on the field. We'll have plenty of

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Speaker 1: time to discuss the New Orleans Saints and Spencer Ratler

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Speaker 1: and the days to come. I usually say days and

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Speaker 1: weeks to come, but it's no longer weeks. It is here.

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Speaker 1: It is just nowadays a week from Sunday, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: will be in New Orleans, and of course we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about it all on Azycardinals dot com and right

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two. That's place to get it.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud

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