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Speaker 1: fantastic program that you're listening to here, Some even say fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying thank you for being here with us.

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Speaker 1: We have this story in the New York Times, which

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Speaker 1: means that there's something going on here. Why now, Why

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Speaker 1: New York Times writing that, you know, they really messed

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Speaker 1: up on that immigration thing under Biden's administration. They they

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Speaker 1: really and the explanation is essentially that it was a mistake, right.

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Speaker 1: The explanation is that Biden's immigration policy fell victim to

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Speaker 1: other priorities like COVID and the economy. Here is this

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Speaker 1: story how Biden ignored warnings and lost Americans' faith in immigration.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic president and as top advisors rejected recommendations that

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Speaker 1: could have eased the border crisis and help return Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump to the White House. There's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: in this piece, and there's a real I want to

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Speaker 1: also get into not only how they're trying to message

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Speaker 1: this thing, but Clay also how it is or what

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Speaker 1: it is that they're trying to accomplish with this, because

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Speaker 1: they're already thinking forward to twenty twenty six the midterms,

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Speaker 1: and remember, in their minds, if they can just get

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Speaker 1: the House, it effectively pumps the brakes on the Trump agenda.

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Speaker 1: And then we just get into a presidential election cycle

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Speaker 1: and everything, you know, everything changes at some level in

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Speaker 1: So they view the stakes as very high. The stakes

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Speaker 1: if that means throwing some Democrats under the bus. Clay,

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Speaker 1: you go through this part of this is I just

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Speaker 1: want us to take a victory lot. We've always saw immigration,

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Speaker 1: border crime, immigration, border crime. We've been talking about this

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Speaker 1: a huge issue in this last election, which it was.

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Speaker 1: I remember that was one of the lead things, Clay.

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Speaker 1: I was talking on the Bill Maher show right before

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Speaker 1: the election, and even Bill Maher looked at me and

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Speaker 1: he's like, they completely screwed up the immigration thing. He

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Speaker 1: didn't use that word, he's a different word, but he said,

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Speaker 1: they completely mess that up as badly as it could

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Speaker 1: the whole time. They decided to continue to let this happen.

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Speaker 1: People who understood the system. Clay told Biden, Hey, this

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Speaker 1: just so you know, I mean they say chaos then

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Speaker 1: paral year one, that's what they talk about. And the

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Speaker 1: Biden response was to put Kamala Harris in charge as

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Speaker 1: the borders are, which if you wanted something to be

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Speaker 1: completely ineffective, putting Kamala in charge probably a good idea.

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Speaker 1: So you know, in that sense it worked exactly as intended.

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Speaker 1: They talked about changing the root causes. People even forget this.

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Speaker 1: They go through this in the article that Kamala was

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Speaker 1: supposed to address the root causes of migration in Central America. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because Central American countries are poor, dysfunctional,

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Speaker 1: really what this comes down to is that they want

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Speaker 1: Biden made mistakes. They don't want people to realize. No,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly. They wanted ten million plus in legals to

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, and of course not nationalize, naturalize,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why the Supreme Court decision on

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Speaker 2: If you want to know, Kamala Harris. The root cause, Yes,

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Speaker 2: More money if you come to the United States than

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Speaker 2: Have built the best economy that's ever existed in the

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Speaker 1: The number of people who are able to come into

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Speaker 2: In addition to creating the best economy in the history

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Speaker 2: So if you come to the United States, even if

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Speaker 2: They would have to make it going forward, because I

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Speaker 1: Well, also it's illegal to do that. So the hotels,

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Speaker 1: being lied to about all of us all the time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So as long as you are from a poor, predominantly

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Speaker 1: well why are we giving away American americanness, like like

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Speaker 1: it's time that we have a total top down look

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Speaker 1: The porter was absolutely open.

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Speaker 2: It was wide open. It was wide open. It was intentional.

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Speaker 2: And here is the diabolical aspect of all of this.

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Speaker 2: They knew that they were making a generational decision. I

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Speaker 1: like when people assume that Hispanics are like this monolith

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Speaker 1: So we talk about this a moment ago, so I

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Speaker 2: decides that Marjorie Taylor Green, solely based on her feud

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Speaker 2: with Trump, is now worthy of a viewership.

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Speaker 1: And let me also point this out.

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Speaker 2: Sixty Minutes always brags you probably see it too, Buck

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Speaker 2: about how many people watch their news show and how

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Speaker 2: influential they are. It's cause you're on after the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They could put me doing cartwheels in my pool on

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Speaker 2: sixty Minutes as the entire hour long special pool handstands

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Speaker 2: with Clay, and twenty five million people would watch it

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Speaker 2: because everybody was just watching the NFL right before, and

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Speaker 2: so enough people stay that the shoulder programming of the

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Speaker 2: NFL lifts the rising tide lifts all boats.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: This used to go back to do you know what

447
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Speaker 2: the most desired programming opportunity is? If you told me now, Clay,

448
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Speaker 2: you can pick any time to be on television at

449
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Speaker 2: any point in the year. Do you know what the

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Speaker 2: number one time slot is? Right after the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: So as soon as the Super Bowl is over, whatever

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Speaker 2: they put on, and once the postgame show is over

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Speaker 2: and everything else gets like fifty million viewers because people

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Speaker 2: are still at their Super Bowl parties, they're still drinking,

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Speaker 2: they're still hanging out. There's lots of frivolity, and they

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Speaker 2: happen to leave their televisions on. You know, sometimes we

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Speaker 2: benefit from this. When I did sports talker radio, we

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Speaker 2: had dominant ratings in LA and many of you listening

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Speaker 2: to us right now you found me in LA. Do

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Speaker 2: you know what we benefited from back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Why that partly occurred. Dodger games were aired on my

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Speaker 2: LA sports talker radio affiliate, So a lot of people

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Speaker 2: would be in their car driving around. They would be

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Speaker 2: going to bed listening to the Dodgers, and when they

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Speaker 2: woke up the next morning, they would still be on

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Speaker 2: the station and they're like Oh, here's this guy.

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Speaker 1: Claike Thravis. I kind of like him.

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Speaker 2: So everybody can benefit in media based on the lead program.

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Speaker 2: I hope Sean Hannity is benefiting from us. We benefit

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Speaker 2: from Glenn Beck in this network. Jesse Kelly benefits from

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Speaker 2: Sean Hannity. It's a rising tide that lifts all boats.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that sixty Minutes is as cocky as

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Speaker 2: they are and that they would make the decision to

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Speaker 2: do this story, I think is illustrative that there are

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Speaker 2: still a lot of people deeply embedded inside of sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes that hate Trump and are going to try to

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Speaker 2: do whatever they can to attack him. And I think

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Speaker 2: Trump sees it. And again, I think this is underlining

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Speaker 2: the decision that's going to have to be made about

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Speaker 2: who ends up owning all of these assets from Warner

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Speaker 2: Brothers were all tied together. What happened to Marjorie Taylor

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Speaker 2: green Clay? You wanted to talk about it? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean no, I mean, I do think the fact

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Speaker 2: that they gave her a platform is a bigger story

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Speaker 2: than what she individually has ended up focused on. I

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Speaker 2: think that this is this is my deep seated psychological analysis.

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Speaker 2: See if you buy into this buck. When Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was in office, there was an existential threat to the country.

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Speaker 2: The borders are wide open, Inflation goes to nine percent,

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Speaker 2: Biden is talking about packing the Supreme Court, war in Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: war in Israel, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. It was

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Speaker 2: all so bad that a lot of people came together

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Speaker 2: and Trump's election eliminated that existential fear of Biden and

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Speaker 2: his government running. And instead of saying, hey, okay, let's

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Speaker 2: all pull together, I think when that existential enemy is eliminated,

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Speaker 2: everybody decided that they were going to start fighting over

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Speaker 2: differences of opinion inside the big tent. And so the

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Speaker 2: result of Trump's victory was the existential threat of the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration is diminished. And so many different people in media,

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Speaker 2: with that existential threat that great evil eliminated, decided to

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Speaker 2: turn on each other. And I'm big and you're big

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Speaker 2: on this. In general, I don't presume that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to agree with everybody inside of what I would call

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Speaker 2: the tint of sanity. We're gonna have all sorts of disagreements,

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Speaker 2: but the tint of insanity is so insane. I don't

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Speaker 2: feel an obligation to have purity tests or fight inside

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Speaker 2: of my own tent when there's people out there telling me, Hey,

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Speaker 2: the best male athlete the best female athletes are men

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Speaker 2: like I want to keep the focus on saying versus insane,

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Speaker 2: not internal disputes over well, how should we handle Israel? Well,

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Speaker 2: what do you think we should do about Ukraine? Small

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Speaker 2: things have I think distracted a lot of people, and

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Speaker 2: they're missing the big enemy.

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Speaker 1: This maybe smaller. I mean sometimes it's small differences. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously on the Ukraine war and on Israel, those can

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Speaker 1: be depending on these specifics of the subject matter, very

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Speaker 1: important topics. But yeah, I don't I don't have a person,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a viewpoint on these things that leads

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Speaker 1: me to want to get into the mud wrestling, So

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Speaker 1: I stay out. But I like the mud wrestling.

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Speaker 2: I just want to mud wrestle with the people that

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Speaker 2: actually have awful ideas, is what I'm seopl who have

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Speaker 2: subtle variations different than me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't want to mud wrestle on our team. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: the mud wrestling thing this is sounded kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the into the muck

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Speaker 1: of things with people who I agree with on ninety

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Speaker 1: percent or ninety five percent of things. So my view

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Speaker 1: of the Marjorie Taylor Green Trump thing is, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing, Marjorie? You know what, what's what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here? I don't. I don't understand, And

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Speaker 1: she's not surprised. I would assume that Trump takes the

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Speaker 1: view that he does. If you take a swing at Trump,

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Speaker 1: he just tends to go thermonuclear in response. That's just

536
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Speaker 1: the verbally, but that's just the way that that's the

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Speaker 1: way that he always has been. So I don't see

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Speaker 1: any of this as really that surprising. But you wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about it, We talked about it.

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Speaker 2: I do think do you agree with me that if

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Speaker 2: Kamala had one, I think there's a zero percent chance

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Speaker 2: that by and large, fighting on the right would have happened,

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Speaker 2: because Kamala would have been such a disaster.

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Speaker 1: There would have been a unity of opposition. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this all along a lot of the right on

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Speaker 1: right stuff you see happening right now, where people are

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Speaker 1: going after other people who are conservative or who are

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Speaker 1: on the right, and you know, a lot of it

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Speaker 1: has to do with support for Israel stuff or whatever

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Speaker 1: it may be, or people on there's some conspiracy stuff

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Speaker 1: out there too, but that would not be happening if

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Speaker 1: we had a Democrat in office right now. Part of

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Speaker 1: what you see going on, Clay is we are actually

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Speaker 1: getting the right is. So it's so new to us

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Speaker 1: to have wins stacked up on wins by an administration

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Speaker 1: that I think people feel they have the time and

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Speaker 1: the luxury to eat their own a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening. You wouldn't normally have this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We will all trust me every everything right now. A

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Speaker 1: lot of them, a lot of people probably aren't even

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Speaker 1: aware of it. You have to be very online. You

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Speaker 1: have to be very online, meaning you know, involved in

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Speaker 1: the digital space. So if you're a talk radio listener,

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Speaker 1: you're probably thinking, what are these guys even talking about

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Speaker 1: because there's not very much of it. Certainly we don't

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Speaker 1: do it. You know, the big talk radio shows aren't

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Speaker 1: really getting into this stuff. They're focused on our show,

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Speaker 1: Sean's show, Glenn's show. It's a it's a online thing,

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Speaker 1: an x you know, YouTube rumble. That's where you have

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Speaker 1: we try to we try to stay out of it

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 2: through uh the program here and uh, there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of different stories that we have been tracking so far.

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Speaker 2: I did want to mention this presidential power case. I

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Speaker 2: actually think it's flying under the radar a little bit

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Speaker 2: given the fact that, uh, there's a lot of different

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Speaker 2: stories to follow. This is huge, Buck, and basically what

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Speaker 2: it's going to be determined is and this will be

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Speaker 2: for president and it's long into the future. Because everybody says,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, President of the United States, this is

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court bending.

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Speaker 1: To his will. Trump's got three more years.

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Speaker 2: The odds of even there being that many Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: cases that come up for Trump in front of the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court in the next two years are increasingly less

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Speaker 2: substantial because it takes so long to get cases of

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court to decide them.

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Speaker 1: All these things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the president, in my opinion, has to be able

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Speaker 2: to fire all of these people that are being propped

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Speaker 2: up inside of the governmental bureaucracy. And if we have

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Speaker 2: true separation of powers, what we have effectively allowed is

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Speaker 2: these agencies to sweep in between Congress and the president

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Speaker 2: and take up so much power that whether you like

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Speaker 2: Trump or don't like Trump, what is the purpose of

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Speaker 2: an executive and how is the executive authority circumscribed to

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Speaker 2: what extent at all by the rise of these agencies

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Speaker 2: and the ability to hire fire. It's a huge story,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to exist long after Trump is gone.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to have a president who controls all

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Speaker 2: these aspects of his presidency or are we going to

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Speaker 2: have unelected bureaucrats that are allowed to serve for generations

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Speaker 2: that don't have to be at the beck and call

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Speaker 2: of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Think about what happened even during the government shutdown there

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Speaker 1: were people who were fired from I know, from within

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Speaker 1: the intelligence agencies who were told thank you, but your

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Speaker 1: services are no longer needed. And then a judge came in,

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Speaker 1: a federal judge, and said, yes, you have to rehire

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Speaker 1: these people. They were terminated and now they have to

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Speaker 1: Could you can you imagine that job? Hey, Bill? Turns

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Speaker 1: out we kind of need you, Hey John, could you

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Speaker 1: actually show up and bring your stuff with you?

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Speaker 2: Crazy that when we had the government shut down, everybody

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Speaker 2: eventually ended up getting paid. A lot of people focused,

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Speaker 2: as we should, on air traffic controllers. There's also a

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Speaker 2: huge discussion I think they could be had about how

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Speaker 2: many of those guys in gals didn't have jobs and

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Speaker 2: it didn't even matter that they weren't there for a

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Speaker 2: month and the change because there was no impact to

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Speaker 2: them being gone. I'm willing to die on the hill

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Speaker 2: of we could fire seventy five percent of federal employees

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Speaker 2: and the overall effectiveness of government wouldn't budget all. I mean, heck,

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Speaker 2: I think you can see even inside of a for

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Speaker 2: profit business. Elon came in and fired what was it like,

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Speaker 2: seventy percent of all the Twitter employees, and the overall

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Speaker 2: success of Twitter didn't change at all. In fact, arguably

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Speaker 2: it got better. We come back top of the next hour.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into that Supreme Court case and Australia banned

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Speaker 2: sixteen and unders on social media.

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Speaker 1: What do y'all think about that