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Speaker 1: not be a hashtag, it fits Friday. We will get

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Speaker 1: Tour begins Sunday. He's focused on one thing and one

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Speaker 1: thing only. And what do the Cardinals have to do

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three O eight, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig grig

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Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to

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Speaker 1: the right, throws near site of fens pot heads into

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to bury the lead here, but

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Speaker 1: I've got to pass along something that I think a

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Speaker 1: this way, MG. It brought me to my attention today

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Speaker 1: September ten, the first time ever that the NFL, MLB, NBA,

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Speaker 1: same day. But it will never happen again, knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: But that's where we are with the Houston Texans and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unusual that you have the NBA

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Speaker 1: But I mean, sports are an outlet, and I always

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Speaker 1: have all arrive at this point, considering bless you, considering

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Speaker 1: for him, you know, if the Cardinals are winning. We

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Speaker 1: know how much he likes Murray. Both Larry and Patrick

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Speaker 1: gave the front office a lot of credit for bringing

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Speaker 1: a lot more talent. He's raising his family here. His

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Speaker 1: wife is a doctor. I'm not saying she can't transfer

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Speaker 1: somewhere else, but you know, I think deep down he

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Speaker 1: probably would like to wear a Cardinals uniform his entire career.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's a business. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I think he mentioned a couple

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Speaker 1: of years back about following in the footsteps of Fits

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Speaker 1: as far as being in one place for your entire

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Speaker 1: career and building that legacy. And it's it's difficult. Every

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Speaker 1: player wants that, but like you said, it's a business,

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Speaker 1: and if the Cardinals decide, hey, you know what, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service, then he's got to move on.

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Speaker 1: But to me, if if he plays like he thinks

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Speaker 1: he will play this season, then he's a top flight cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Those are hard to find, and you would be silly

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Speaker 1: not to try to figure out a way to bring

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Speaker 1: him back, because that is a gigantic hole. Now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden that if he's not there, what do

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Speaker 1: you do. Well, you look around the league, and you know,

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Speaker 1: these guys have every right to, you know, stump their

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Speaker 1: feet like you know. Obviously, Jamal Adams wanted out in

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Speaker 1: New York and then you look at guys like u

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Now those guys are younger, so they don't

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Speaker 1: have that cashier tour. I want to play for one

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Speaker 1: team and get paid. He's already been paid, Okay, but

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Speaker 1: I do in the end, I do think he wants

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Speaker 1: to wear one uniform. And you know, he loves living

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Speaker 1: here with golf. I mean, there's so many, so many

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Speaker 1: factors that we don't talk about. What we just talked about,

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Speaker 1: what's between the lines. And he's a great teammate, well respected,

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Speaker 1: he's a leader. He you know, I'm glad he got

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Speaker 1: the captaincy again. You know, you know he couldn't do

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Speaker 1: it last year just because he let his teammates down.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the Carlo's got have some tough decisions

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Speaker 1: because Chandler Jones would be coming up after next year too,

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Speaker 1: or two seasons from now. Yeah, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: if you had to make a choice pass Rusher. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Uh. Put it this way, I mean, you've you've

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Speaker 1: extended Buddha Baker and DeAndre Hopkins. You've got Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal. So there is a way to

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Speaker 1: kind of the side of the numbers. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs do that already. And again it's it's not wanting

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Speaker 1: to see not good play. There's great players lead because

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Speaker 1: what do you do. You can't find another Patrick Peterson

475
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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals I wouldn't say they were lucky, but

476
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Speaker 1: getting in with the fifth overall pick, he was already

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Speaker 1: elite and he's just maintained that and to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: become even better throughout the course of the years. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing was we've seen him grow up, married children.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's mature, not only on the field but

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Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, and you know he'll he'll go down.

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Speaker 1: As you know. Anius Williams obviously played in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: He made the trip when they're the Phoenix Cardinals, and

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Speaker 1: then obviously he got traded to the Rams. But and

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Speaker 1: then Roger Whorley and Larry Wilson referred the defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're in the Hall of Fame and Nias

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Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame. But you can make

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Speaker 1: the case he's been the best Cardinal corner since Anius Williams.

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Speaker 1: I love how you say corner. I'll add defensive back.

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Speaker 1: Just don't tell Adrian Wilson that I said that because now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we'll have even more of a

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Speaker 1: reason why he won't. I'm on this show here, but

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Speaker 1: let's face it, let's put a resume against resume. That

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Speaker 1: was great, Wilson. I didn't. I don't want to pigeon

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Speaker 1: my hole into some you know, cornerback, defensive back. But

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Speaker 1: I did say corner Yes you did. I'm the one

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Speaker 1: that said defensive back, including the entire secondary. So it's

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Speaker 1: on me, ab. I mean, I mean no disrespect to

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Speaker 1: some of the other guys, but there they've had him

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Speaker 1: a revolving door. You know, guys had one a good

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Speaker 1: year like Cormari Air one good year and DRC was decent.

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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't like to tackle, but he provided

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Speaker 1: some speed on defense. Gerard Powers was a good player.

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Speaker 1: But they don't. They don't compare to Patrick Peterson. No,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Hey, subscribe airs on a Cardinals podcast on

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Music, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to

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Speaker 1: your paper shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, The

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Speaker 1: Big Red Raids, The Cardinals Red c Report, and of

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Speaker 1: course this show Cardinals Cover two. Is it easy? Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com Slash Podcast for more information. All right, I'm Jake.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a new job here. You

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Speaker 1: are the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals, and your

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Speaker 1: job is to figure out a way where George Kittle

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Speaker 1: does not run roughshot on this Cardinals defense on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What do you do well, First of all, you got

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Speaker 1: us contain the run, because they're gonna run the football.

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Speaker 1: They're a very successful last year. Cardinals may catch a

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Speaker 1: break with Deebo Samuel and Brian Brandon Ayuk. Now he

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Speaker 1: was limited today, but you're talking about a guy that's

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Speaker 1: been nursing an injury and they went out and we

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Speaker 1: haven't talked about him all week. Is they went out

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Speaker 1: and got Jordan Reid. Now, Jordan Reid has suffered from

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Speaker 1: massive conscussions. When healthy are good players. So they got

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Speaker 1: a good one two punch there. Just like I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams and Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett. I think

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Speaker 1: you can build a case for the Seahawks and Will

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Speaker 1: Disley and then throwing Greg Olsen now, but I think

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You know you're not going to shut him down.

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Speaker 1: He's really good in the run game. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to blocking but I think they have three options. And

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Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are in their in their base defense,

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Speaker 1: that means maybe Buyer or Murphy won't be on the field.

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Speaker 1: But when they go eleven or twelve personnel, they could

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Speaker 1: go two tight ends here because they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: cut somehow it gets the chunk of yards down the field.

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Speaker 1: So either have Biber or Murphy. I think the guy

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Speaker 1: that's going to get the probably the most opportunities is Campbell.

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Speaker 1: And then you also have Bruda Baker, So that's the

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Speaker 1: way I'm going to try to contain him. It goes

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Speaker 1: a long way if you could put pressure on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback up the middle. Okay, that means maybe Jordan Hickson

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Speaker 1: of Isaiah Simmons in the game, they can shoot the gap.

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Speaker 1: They'd love to get pressure off the outside to force

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo to get rid of the ball. But you know,

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Speaker 1: they got their work cut out. And there's a reason

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Speaker 1: why he's one of the highest pay you know, tight

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Speaker 1: ends in football. He's in that same conversation as Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and you know obviously Ralb Gronkowski when he was healthy.

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Speaker 1: But um yeah, I mean to me, I think they

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Speaker 1: catch a break though, because Deebo Sam. He was kind

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Speaker 1: of a running back wide receiver rounded me in a

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Speaker 1: kind of ant Kum bolden Um. They've had, you know,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, he decided to leave free agency, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe haven't touched on this, and they just you know,

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Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner decided to move on. But they have so

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Speaker 1: much step on that front. Sou from an offensive standpoint

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Speaker 1: for the for the forty nine ers, I think the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals got their work cut out. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's going to be the deciding factor. You know,

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Speaker 1: who's the X factor is one of those running backs.

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Speaker 1: Could it be one of those young wide receivers that

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Speaker 1: steps up because they're gonna have to. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna come away from that game throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: fifteen times. I mean they're they're gonna be somewhat balanced.

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Speaker 1: But I like the Cardinals opportunities. Again, you just hope

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Speaker 1: to contain him. Now they're down red zone. Better make

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Speaker 1: sure you had a head on him, because he can

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Speaker 1: be really dangerous. He's a great safety net for Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talk all about the tight end and George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: but let's not forget that this forty nine ers offense

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Speaker 1: number two in the league last year, and rushing the football,

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Speaker 1: and it's a combination. Whether it's going to be Raheem Mostert,

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Speaker 1: Keevin Coleman, Jered McKinnon is finally healthy after two years

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and Jordan Hicks brought it up. Bans

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Speaker 1: Joseph brought it up earlier today even with George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: and you said it, you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: stop the run, so that becomes the primary focus. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans will look to what

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Speaker 1: this team did in the off season beforeeing Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Davandre Campbell, let's go back to what he said in

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Speaker 1: his introductory video call with the media back twenty first

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Speaker 1: believes he can quote successfully cover any tight end in

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Speaker 1: the league and quote, I think he's gonna get the

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Speaker 1: first opportunity and the Cardinals will just from because you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna stop Kittle. Maybe you can limit him, just

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Speaker 1: make sure that he is not the one doing all

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Speaker 1: of the damage. And if he does catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: like you know, maybe Garppel's going through his progressions and

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Speaker 1: he sees these wide open. I always think it's an

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Speaker 1: easy throw. Especially for quarterback six feet or over to

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Speaker 1: throw over the middle of field. I mean sometimes like

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Speaker 1: Carlos Dansby would kind of squat down. Hopefully Simmons learns

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Speaker 1: this and then you can try to get the pick,

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Speaker 1: but it's yards after catch. He's a beast. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he can break tackles, so you can't arm tackle him.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go low obviously above the knees, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he's had some injuries last year, so but he's

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Speaker 1: just he's just he's just a freak athlete. You can

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Speaker 1: just see how much he means to that offense, and

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Speaker 1: you can see he's got a great relationship with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So when you got a good relationship with the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna tend to look her way because good things

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Speaker 1: happen when he's thrown at George Kittle. I think Jordan

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Speaker 1: Reid is going to be an issue too, though it's

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Speaker 1: just because he's tall, just hasn't staying healthy, but he's

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Speaker 1: very productive. It's kind of like a wide receiver playing

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Speaker 1: tight end. And I do think we're going to see

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Speaker 1: a lot of two tight end sets because maybe they

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Speaker 1: think they can, you know, wear the Cardinals down and

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Speaker 1: then take some shots down the field, well where the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense most vulnerable until they can show that they

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Speaker 1: can stop the tight end. And you keep doing that.

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Speaker 1: The one tight end we haven't referenced, Ross Dwelly. He

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Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns in that second game against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He had more touchdowns than George Kittle last season against

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Kittle only caught one. Of course, we know overall,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals allowed sixteen touchdowns passing touchdowns to opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 1: So that, I mean, you're talking about a nice one

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Speaker 1: two punch. And Jordan Reid did a lot of his

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Speaker 1: work with Washington and now coming back to the West Coast.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Ross dwell he might be the third

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Speaker 1: guy on the depth chart, but the Cardinals are very

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Speaker 1: familiar with him. You know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I'll live with that, just like what was it Nick

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Speaker 1: Boyle and Baltimore because they had Mark Andrews and they

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Speaker 1: had a ton of tight ends and Nick Boyle got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody's got to be open. I guess. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna focus on those guys, but yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Niners feel like, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the addition of Trent Williams and Mike mcclinchy, and it

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Speaker 1: kind of I do think they're vulnerable, Craig in the interior,

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Speaker 1: I think they're vulnerable. And it's not like they got

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Speaker 1: all pro players and Pro Bowl players in there, so

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where that an interior of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And we think Jordan Phillips can push the pile. We

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Speaker 1: think Corey Peters can you know, hold containment at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You're bringing us a couple of run stuffers.

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Speaker 1: And then Zach Allen, I mean, I'm really excited to

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Speaker 1: see him. He's stronger, he's more confident, and nobody's talking

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Speaker 1: about him on that line everything. And when you signed

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Speaker 1: to Jordan Phillips and then you know Van's heads in

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Speaker 1: telling at nine and a half, Sex get you get

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Speaker 1: excited about those guys. But Zach Allen, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great matchup, like strength versus strength with

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Speaker 1: him and Mike mcclinch on the right side. You know,

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Speaker 1: just see exactly how much stronger Zach has gotten and

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Speaker 1: then just how much better he feels at this pro level.

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Speaker 1: Remember he was only on the field for a handful

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Speaker 1: of games before landing on injured reserve. One note on

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers interior starting center at Ben Garland

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Speaker 1: once again limited in practice on Thursday with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: So that's back to back days. And I know offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: they don't move around a lot, but they do have

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Speaker 1: to have good footwork. And if your ankles are bothering

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Speaker 1: you at all, all of a sudden, that puts you

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Speaker 1: a half step, maybe a full step behind, whether that's

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Speaker 1: a Jordan Phillips or Corey Peters or maybe even as

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen trying to rush the mill at disrupt what

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers want to do offensively well also

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Speaker 1: making the line calls. Now, I'm sure they've got experience

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Speaker 1: that possibly the guard spots where they can help. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're going to go onto silent count, but

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Speaker 1: that unit. You want to make sure who's going to

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Speaker 1: play on Monday or Tuesday. Now, you know teams obviously

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Speaker 1: are off over the weekend, but it's important whoever's going

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Speaker 1: to be the starter's If it's not Ben Garland, then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden that that person needs to get

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Speaker 1: the reps and so but when you look at a

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Speaker 1: starter verse a backup. That should be an advantage for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals bottom line. Though France Joseph it was the

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Speaker 1: second question posed to him about the tight end, he

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Speaker 1: knew it was coming, and he mentioned that having a

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Speaker 1: plan against Kittle is quote going to be vital to

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Speaker 1: our defense end quote but you can't stop everyone. But

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Speaker 1: I think what would make Cardinal fans much happier is

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Speaker 1: if it was someone else and not Hey, here we

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Speaker 1: go again, same old, same old. Can't cover a tight end. Now,

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Speaker 1: with that said, this is, if not one of the

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Speaker 1: best the best tight ends and the league. And if

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Speaker 1: he goes off, well maybe that's just because it's George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: and then we see what happens the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: But I think we would all feel much better if

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Speaker 1: that was shored up a little bit and it didn't

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Speaker 1: look as bad as it did at times last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again, I'm gonna keep, you know, banging this drum

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Speaker 1: just because of their wide receiver situation. Now he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get targeted seven to nine times. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: hoping to keep him the four or five catches it

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Speaker 1: could be for fifty yards. But what you don't want

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Speaker 1: is that one catch for like sixty seven yards because

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Speaker 1: those our backbreakers, and he's done everything you possibly can

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Speaker 1: to keep him, you know, because sometimes you get safety help.

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Speaker 1: But in this situation with Campbell, he's going to cover

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Speaker 1: on one on one And we watched Sound Roddick try

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Speaker 1: to cover tight ends. We watched Joe Walker. They just

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Speaker 1: didn't have the height to do it. Campbell's you know,

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Speaker 1: when you look at him, he's pretty tall on defense

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Speaker 1: and he's done before. So I would agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the first option there. But just don't

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Speaker 1: give up that big play like they're gonna get first dounds,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get in the red zone. But you just can't,

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Speaker 1: like if it's a twenty intermediate route or you run

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Speaker 1: across the field, you just can't give up a forty

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown like that because not that they're going to

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Speaker 1: do it, but all of us will go here we

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Speaker 1: go again. And that's what Simmons It got Fuaker and Campbell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joseph was bringing that up as far as the matchup

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Speaker 1: issues that tight ends have the advantage of it. Not

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Speaker 1: just George Kittle, but you're up against a slower linebacker,

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Speaker 1: a smaller safety, and that's where maybe Campbell is different.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's Isaiah Simmons is different. And we know Buddha

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Speaker 1: Baker is gonna want to crack and get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: as well. Those two battled well last season, each getting

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Speaker 1: that upper hand over the other. Of course, the only

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Speaker 1: one highlight is Kittle kind of tossing Buddha Baker to

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Speaker 1: the side. But those two have great respect one another,

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Speaker 1: not too you saw this earlier today, MJ. But Matt

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Speaker 1: Maoka from NBC Sports Bay Area tweeted out. Kittle speaking

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Speaker 1: to the media, said that Buddha reached out to him

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Speaker 1: after Kittle received his contract extension, and then Kittle did

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Speaker 1: the same when Baker got his new deal. So mutual admiration,

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Speaker 1: mutual respect when you have players on opposite teams. But

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Speaker 1: great players recognize the talent of other great players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, once you get in the NFL, you know,

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Speaker 1: we know these guys have played in different conferences, teammates,

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Speaker 1: and I always think, you know the class you come in,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of attached for life. But he's been to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl with Kittle. Well, Kittle, I guess wasn't

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Speaker 1: there because he's in the Super Bowl. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at all pro lists, he's been on the same list.

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Speaker 1: So it's nice to see guys recognize. But really, the

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Speaker 1: NFL's a fraternity, even though on Sunday you're trying to

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Speaker 1: beat your opponent. All Right, Before we head on out

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Speaker 1: of here, I'm jay, I'm going to give you a

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Speaker 1: homework assignment. You're task tomorrow. Give Cardinal fans three keys

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Speaker 1: to a victory Week one against the reigning NFC champions.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, so I can't use kitto for the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: to win. For the Cardinals to win, what is it

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Speaker 1: going to take for the Cardinals to win? If they

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Speaker 1: do one, two, and three? You like their chances or

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Speaker 1: maybe even better like their chances that they can go

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Speaker 1: and steal one on the road at Levi's Stadium. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch the game and I'll start writing

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Speaker 1: things down. Sounds good. On that note, we will put

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Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cards Covered two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday Partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special

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Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer, Jim Amandro or Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: I'm praig Rio Loup. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on cards, Cover two,