Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November three. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: And now a guy who should receive hazard pay for
Speaker 1: working with Masselli, J P. Shad Rick, Maybe who we
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Speaker 1: It's week thirteen. The Jaguars faced the Vikings. We have
Speaker 1: a busy show head a Jaguars Vikings preview. The Jags
Speaker 1: are headed to US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis for a
Speaker 1: one o'clock Eastern time kick against a team that's up
Speaker 1: against it in the NFC playoff picture. They need to
Speaker 1: win to keep hope alive for a wild card. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars are out of the race and the a f C.
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll break down the game coming up a
Speaker 1: little more on the aftermath of the day. Caldwell firing
Speaker 1: after the game. Sunday, Tony Bsselli speaking up, joins us
Speaker 1: at fourth and the Doug Moron Show at five o'clock
Speaker 1: and the head coach will join us from t i
Speaker 1: A A bank Field. Jeff Loghman with us now on
Speaker 1: this Thursday, as he is every week from the home studio.
Speaker 1: And here we are into December logs five weeks left.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we're kind of counting them down, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's ten consecutive losses for this football team. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know you're talking about now draft positioning with the
Speaker 1: general manager being fired. I mean there's not a I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's kind of a somber type gloom I
Speaker 1: guess you could say around this franchise right now, because
Speaker 1: it's not even in the conversation, you know. We mean,
Speaker 1: you were talking just a minute ago about how nice
Speaker 1: it is to get the December and talk about ways
Speaker 1: in which your team can get in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: we're not having that conversation. And that's that's disappointing with
Speaker 1: his football team because and I don't want to say
Speaker 1: we had high expectations. I mean the expectations weren't very
Speaker 1: high to begin with, because it's the young football team
Speaker 1: that uh, the youngest roster in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But but the one thing you want to see is
Speaker 1: at least improvement, and uh, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: if we can say that, we're saying we're seeing improvement.
Speaker 1: I think from early on when this team was getting
Speaker 1: vot raced by quite a few points and are more
Speaker 1: competitive the last couple of weeks, but it's it's not
Speaker 1: the most positive thing JP. And that's the reality. You know,
Speaker 1: I get I get those to your point, I get
Speaker 1: those emails. Now, this is the time of year where
Speaker 1: the league sends out playoff possibilities each week. If if
Speaker 1: this happens, then Team A gets in the playoffs or
Speaker 1: gets this spot in the playoffs. And it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't delete those emails fast enough right now, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with him, just tired of seeing it. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, it's it's not easy, right, but
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: that the fan base wanted to see some type of
Speaker 1: institutional chain. And when I say chain, I mean there's
Speaker 1: got to be some type of angel leadership at the top.
Speaker 1: And after this past game with Dy've called well getting fired,
Speaker 1: I think that's obviously a step that will give the
Speaker 1: fan base hope that this thing can get better with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, because when when you have essentially what was
Speaker 1: seven double digit law season under a general manager out
Speaker 1: of eight seasons in which he presided over, that's not
Speaker 1: very good. And uh, I think most people that are
Speaker 1: on the outside look at it, and I think they're
Speaker 1: very surprised that he was able to hold onto that
Speaker 1: job so long. Peter King wrote about in his Money
Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback and he said, just then, amazing job that
Speaker 1: Dave called was able to hold onto his job. And
Speaker 1: and look, I don't like beating up Dave called Well
Speaker 1: because he got fired. But the reality is this is
Speaker 1: a production based business and when you roll out seven
Speaker 1: double digit law seasons, that that production is not there.
Speaker 1: And uh, and when you when you go into the
Speaker 1: National Football League and you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the National Football League, whether it be as a
Speaker 1: coach or a personnel guy, you better have fixedin and
Speaker 1: you also have the understanding that you could lose your
Speaker 1: job and that job security is not one of the
Speaker 1: greatest attractive parts of working in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: And that's just the reality of it. Track record on
Speaker 1: the draft side as well, not very strong. At the
Speaker 1: top of the draft, of course, the first round draft
Speaker 1: pick history here has not been great, certainly under Dave
Speaker 1: Caldwell's running from to present. In that time, only four
Speaker 1: first round draft picks remain on the roster. The the
Speaker 1: guy has picked the last three years. Brian Allan Henderson,
Speaker 1: Chason the others are gone for different reasons. Jokels out
Speaker 1: of the league like Bordles got paid and then he's
Speaker 1: onto Denver on the league for a while, that's right,
Speaker 1: and then um, so you can go through those that
Speaker 1: those lists of guys. Dante Fowler is not around here anymore,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey got traded last year, and then Leonard forda
Speaker 1: had was cut at the start this season, so he
Speaker 1: had some hits a little later in the draft. But
Speaker 1: you gotta hit on those big guys, the cornerstones of
Speaker 1: your franchise, and that just didn't It didn't work at
Speaker 1: the top of the draft for Dave Caldwell here. No,
Speaker 1: and uh, look it, when you draft, it's not always
Speaker 1: just one guy making the pick. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: it's it's a group effort. You have you know, your
Speaker 1: college director of pro purse or college director of personnel.
Speaker 1: Then you have different scouts at different levels, and so
Speaker 1: it is a little bit of a mix of people
Speaker 1: that come together to make that decision. But a couple
Speaker 1: of surprising things. I mean, first and foremost, typically on
Speaker 1: a first round pick, look that's the general manager's pick.
Speaker 1: And then once you get later in the draft, then
Speaker 1: he has a tendency to rely more on his scouts,
Speaker 1: and that's that's typical because a first round pick, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's your signature pick. General manager is not gonna let
Speaker 1: anybody else make that decision but him. And with the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: when you have a first round pick, that's your highest
Speaker 1: percentage of being able to hit. And for the Jaguars
Speaker 1: that hasn't been a very high percent And for most organizations,
Speaker 1: that's the guy that you typically want to get into
Speaker 1: a second contract. That hasn't happened for the Jaguars, and
Speaker 1: so it's disappointing from from that aspect, and that those
Speaker 1: are the foundational players. You know, the draft is the
Speaker 1: lifeblood of any franchise and if you're not picking well,
Speaker 1: and you're not picking well at the top, which is
Speaker 1: the highest percentage of success rate, then that's a problem.
Speaker 1: And uh, too many times this recently, this football team
Speaker 1: hasn't hit. And it's not just Dave Caldwell, I mean
Speaker 1: you go back to the Shack Harris, I mean this,
Speaker 1: this football team has not picked very well at the
Speaker 1: top of the draft, and this team has not been
Speaker 1: able to find a franchise quarterback in the draft. And
Speaker 1: that's you gotta find one. I mean, that's that's Look
Speaker 1: at the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs are sitting pretty and they obviously got a generational
Speaker 1: player and Patrick Mahomes, but they knew the importance of
Speaker 1: the position shinto where when they had Alex Smith, they
Speaker 1: still drafted Patrick my Home. And Alex Smith was a
Speaker 1: really good player and one of the highest rated quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and you still drafted Patrick Mahomes. Well,
Speaker 1: you go back to that same year. The Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: were coming off of a year in which they had
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and they were winning to spite him, and
Speaker 1: so it was a perfect opportunity to do what the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs did. And you didn't even have to
Speaker 1: trade any picks. All you would have to done to
Speaker 1: just just take them, and and you didn't do it,
Speaker 1: And obviously that's a that's a big mistake. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure if the Jaguars did any work on
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that year, because Dave Caldwell was still a big
Speaker 1: believer in Blake Bortles for some reason, coming off of
Speaker 1: the year that he had previously which was terrible. Um,
Speaker 1: and I like Blake. I mean, I think he's a
Speaker 1: good guy, and and he's a tough guy, and he's
Speaker 1: a he's a football player. But you're not trying to
Speaker 1: find football players to play quarterback. You're trying to play
Speaker 1: trying to find quarterbacks to play quarterback. You know, you
Speaker 1: can obviously you have to remember that a couple of
Speaker 1: year window, Tom Coughlin was at the top of the
Speaker 1: football world here as well. So that goes into that
Speaker 1: decision process for that draft. And see, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not going there. I mean, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's kind of been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a crutch. I mean for because you know
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, it's the truth, it's the facts. Well it's
Speaker 1: the fact that he was he was making he had
Speaker 1: the ultimate say so. But but did Tom Coughlin go
Speaker 1: over to personnel and say, okay, I'm remember the personnel department. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin got more involved in coaching than he did
Speaker 1: in personnel. So I don't think Tom Coughlin was was
Speaker 1: in there putting his hands in personnel saying we're picking
Speaker 1: that guy, and we're picking that guy and we're picking
Speaker 1: that guy. I don't care what you think. I don't
Speaker 1: think that was happening, you know, so, Uh, the reality
Speaker 1: is is that, uh, you know, with Tom Coughlin being
Speaker 1: involved for a couple of years. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that ended up buying Dave Colbell from Extra Timer or why.
Speaker 1: But uh, the reality is that he was able to
Speaker 1: stick around longer because of Tom Coffin, because they wanted
Speaker 1: in seventeen and one at the high level. But I
Speaker 1: mean it was Tom Coffin making all the calls and
Speaker 1: draft picks. I mean, look, Tom Coffin is ultimately responsible
Speaker 1: and that he should have been able to say that year,
Speaker 1: hey look what about Patrick Mahomes or what about the
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. I mean, those would have been too great
Speaker 1: statements to make and obviously something that he should explore further.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, I think that Tom, once
Speaker 1: he took the job, his main focal point. At the
Speaker 1: beginning of this transition, when he was as an e
Speaker 1: v P, it was more of a Okay, I know
Speaker 1: what I do best, and that's coaching. I'm gonna help
Speaker 1: Doug assemble coaching staff and then we'll worry about the personnel.
Speaker 1: Stuff later on, and uh, and that obviously hurt. Tom
Speaker 1: should have addressed the personnel side of things right then
Speaker 1: and there and certainly should have addressed it from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of, Look, we don't have a quarterback, we don't
Speaker 1: have a franchise guy, and we're gonna get one, so
Speaker 1: let's look at the ones that we can possibly take
Speaker 1: in the Springs draft. All right now, moving had here,
Speaker 1: five more games to go, a month to play for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars here in Trent Balky is the interim general manager.
Speaker 1: He'll get them through this season in terms of transactions
Speaker 1: and day to day football operations type of things. Transactions
Speaker 1: all that. As we said, Doug Marone and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff are safe through Shod kind of addressed that after
Speaker 1: the game Sunday as well. So for Doug Marone and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, we're gonna have Doug on at five
Speaker 1: o'clock on the Duck Moron Show. Um, this is what
Speaker 1: they have. Five games and then who really knows at
Speaker 1: that point, but you get an idea that there could
Speaker 1: be some some more changes down the line at some point.
Speaker 1: So it's gotta be tough for Doug and those guys.
Speaker 1: Five games to go there already have lost ten in
Speaker 1: a row, blogs, and now you're gonna go out and
Speaker 1: get these guys going for one more month of football,
Speaker 1: knowing that changes likely on the way of some kind. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like like I said before, when when you
Speaker 1: sign up to be a coach or a personnel guy
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, Uh, change is inevitable. And
Speaker 1: so I know the dog and the coaching staff they
Speaker 1: realize that. But it doesn't mean it's it's good, I mean,
Speaker 1: or we're great. I mean it's it's tough. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's tough on families, it's tough on organization. And
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing I definitely feel for anybody
Speaker 1: that works in the National Football League when a team
Speaker 1: is not winning is sometimes the family can hear a
Speaker 1: lot of that noise, whether it be coaches kids, or
Speaker 1: personnel guys kids, or look even employees of the organization kids.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes like the Jaguars suck, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're given a kid a hard time because Okay, somebody's
Speaker 1: dad or mom works for the Jaguars, And I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the way it is sometimes. But
Speaker 1: I think coaches, coaches know that when when they sign
Speaker 1: up to be coaches that there can be change and
Speaker 1: they have to be willing to move. But but it's
Speaker 1: still it's not a great situation. And yeah, JP there
Speaker 1: probably will be some more change and we don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what that entails until the new general manager is
Speaker 1: hired and he looks at the organization and evaluates everything
Speaker 1: and so but it definitely will look different, I think
Speaker 1: when we roll around THEE and this is it's been
Speaker 1: a tough year. I mean tough year for for everybody
Speaker 1: you know from COVID. Two coaches and working remotely and
Speaker 1: you're trying to put together and build a franchise and
Speaker 1: build an organization and build the concept of team, and
Speaker 1: a really challenging one for Doug Moroning his coaching staff
Speaker 1: because of all those things that are different about you know,
Speaker 1: the COVID things that I mentioned and remote learning not
Speaker 1: having the ability and so when you do all this
Speaker 1: and everything is so different. When you have the youngest
Speaker 1: roster in the National Football League and you trade away
Speaker 1: a lot of value, valuable veteran veterans, that makes it
Speaker 1: even harder. And so it's hard to succeed when you're
Speaker 1: in that position in my opinion, Yeah, no doubt, And
Speaker 1: you know, just you gotta of the coaching staff and
Speaker 1: those guys and the players credit. Yeah, I know they
Speaker 1: haven't won. That's the result the end game. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, it has been a little better the last
Speaker 1: few weeks, just not getting that result at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, which is we're not into moral victories here,
Speaker 1: but we've seen other times where a team can can
Speaker 1: kind of give it up towards the end of the year,
Speaker 1: at least so far, that has not happened for this
Speaker 1: team We've got. You know, it's been it's it can happen,
Speaker 1: and it has happened around the league before. Let's come
Speaker 1: back in a moment, logs, let's get into the game
Speaker 1: this Sunday, the Jags and the Vikings. Mike Glennon will
Speaker 1: get another start. We'll see what the Jaguars defensive matchup
Speaker 1: is this week. It's not ideal for the Jags. Will
Speaker 1: break it all down and then at four thirty Tony
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Speaker 1: changing healthcare for good. The time that he's had in
Speaker 1: the National Football League has helped him. And I can
Speaker 1: remember him in college at NC State. You know, I
Speaker 1: think he didn't have a great offensive line, but he's
Speaker 1: always had a great feel for sitting in the pocket,
Speaker 1: wait until the last second, deliver the ball, and he
Speaker 1: will take some hits because of that and possibly throw
Speaker 1: some meryor balls because of that. But he's got a
Speaker 1: great feel for the pocket. Good understanding the game concepts, defenses, protections.
Speaker 1: I think the receivers are everybody liked his UH urgency
Speaker 1: and the huddle communication. All that stuff plays a major
Speaker 1: role of pre snap. I think Mike is probably our
Speaker 1: best option right now, uh post snap. I think all
Speaker 1: three of them doing some great things, and obviously Mike
Speaker 1: showed some flash of being uh really productive force and
Speaker 1: the best option. This week. Jake Gruden, offensive coordinator discussing
Speaker 1: the decision to start Mike Glennan this week by head
Speaker 1: coach Doug Marone against the Vikings and welcome back, Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Jeff Flagman coming up in
Speaker 1: just a few minutes, twelve minutes or so. Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: scheduled at four thirty today, So Mike Glennan gets to
Speaker 1: start again, and you heard him their logs, A lot
Speaker 1: of the pre snap stuff just felt a little I
Speaker 1: guess cleaner, smoother with Glennon in there. He's been in
Speaker 1: the league for a long time. That's a big reason why.
Speaker 1: And what do you think of Glennon last week and
Speaker 1: what can we expect now and around number two for
Speaker 1: the vet, Well, I think you would expect things to
Speaker 1: be cleaner going from a Jake Lewton to Mike Lennon.
Speaker 1: After all, Mike Lennon's got a lot more experience, and
Speaker 1: not necessarily a ton of more game experience, because now
Speaker 1: he's six and I think seventeen as a starter, so
Speaker 1: it's not like he's got ten years of starting under
Speaker 1: his belt, but certainly a lot more than Jake Lewton.
Speaker 1: But he's got Look, he's been around, he's been in
Speaker 1: this system before. And when I say this system, last
Speaker 1: year he was with the Raiders and so he was
Speaker 1: with Jay's brother John, and the systems are very similar,
Speaker 1: and so I think that helps. But the reality is
Speaker 1: is that Mike Lennon is what he is JP and
Speaker 1: that's a journeyman quarterback. And uh, it's nice to have
Speaker 1: him kind of be a steady enforce for an offense.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, there's no excitement associated with
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon being the Jaguars quarterback because you realize that
Speaker 1: he is a journeyman quarterback and the excitement will come,
Speaker 1: hopefully one day when this team finds a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: that can lead them onto big things in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. And so I hope that Mike Glennon plays
Speaker 1: well and I hope he continues to get a little
Speaker 1: bit better because the inactivity that he's had for a
Speaker 1: significant amount of time doesn't help any quarterback. But I
Speaker 1: like the way that he protected the football, but he
Speaker 1: missed some frozen the game that could have been the
Speaker 1: difference in winning and losing. And hopefully he can make
Speaker 1: those throws this week against a Minnesota Vikings team that
Speaker 1: is going to be able to put up a lot
Speaker 1: of points on the board. There's make no mistake about
Speaker 1: the Vikings are gonna score some point. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that matchup against the Jaguars defense. Here a
Speaker 1: little bit, let's hear from Mike Glennan his review of
Speaker 1: last week's game, how he found out he was going
Speaker 1: to start for a second straight week. As far as
Speaker 1: the conversation, the roy wasn't much. H just told me
Speaker 1: we're going to you again this week. I was left
Speaker 1: at that um. As far as a week to week,
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it. It's a performance based industry
Speaker 1: and you know, all those stuff have shown flashes and
Speaker 1: it's about consistency, and yeah, I get it. Yeah. Doug
Speaker 1: Marone earlier this week Logs said that those asked, hey,
Speaker 1: is is this Glennon's gig for the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: He's like, whoa. You know, every position is day to day,
Speaker 1: week to week in the NFL, including the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Down the stretch here, he could have a couple of
Speaker 1: weapons back on the field Outside Connolly and Chart, the
Speaker 1: receivers have both been limited this week on the practice field.
Speaker 1: They both missed last week's game. Colin Johnson stepped up
Speaker 1: and had a big game for him on the nice
Speaker 1: long touchdown run and took advantage of his opportunity to
Speaker 1: step in there last week, and of course, logs when
Speaker 1: when you have a guy like James Robinson playing as
Speaker 1: well as he is and as reliable as he is,
Speaker 1: that helps everybody on offense, when you can get that
Speaker 1: running game going, and then obviously bring some guys you know,
Speaker 1: moving guys around on the defense, and when you have
Speaker 1: James Robinson doing his thing, that helps everybody else out
Speaker 1: too well. There's no doubt. And James Robinson's coming off
Speaker 1: his career best game as far as total yardage output
Speaker 1: in uh in a ballgame, and and he's a He's
Speaker 1: a great player. I mean, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: The only thing that James Robinson doesn't have is the
Speaker 1: breakaway speed to where he can just run away from
Speaker 1: a pack. But he's got everything else. He's got the
Speaker 1: decision making, the vision, the efficiency and the power, the
Speaker 1: commitment to smarts. He's got everything that you want. And
Speaker 1: on the Colin Johnson touchdown, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: happen to watch Jags Wired last night, JP, but tellustrated
Speaker 1: this play on the board and then gonna be doing
Speaker 1: it again. We're gonna show it again. Tonight on Jaguars
Speaker 1: All Access and on the Colin Johnson touchdown catch. I
Speaker 1: called it the j Robin because the Cleveland Browns were
Speaker 1: up in the box with the safety which makes eight,
Speaker 1: and so you're leaving the corners a little bit out
Speaker 1: on the island with a deep middle safety, and whether
Speaker 1: you play a three deep zone in that situation or
Speaker 1: you decide to match up in man, it's still leaving
Speaker 1: the corners essentially out on an island. And so they
Speaker 1: ran a clearing route by Killian Keelan Cole on the
Speaker 1: left and then Colin Johnson was running a crossing route
Speaker 1: all the way across the field and Browns were in man.
Speaker 1: But there was no safety to help that corner cover
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson, because that's safety was worrying about. James Robinson
Speaker 1: and j Gruden talked about this play I think yesterday,
Speaker 1: which I kind of made me happy because that's the
Speaker 1: play that I picked the draw and like, cool, the
Speaker 1: coordinator picked one that I really like, and uh, and
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see how defenses react to James
Speaker 1: Robinson and they respect him, they respect the running game.
Speaker 1: They brought the eighth guy in the box with the
Speaker 1: play action fate. All of those eight guys were moving
Speaker 1: forward so that none of them were able to recover
Speaker 1: to be a factor on the Colin Johnson catch, and
Speaker 1: it was a touchdown. So one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: that James Robinson is a really good football player, and
Speaker 1: I just hate to think of where this organization, this
Speaker 1: franchise would be without him this year because he's been steady,
Speaker 1: he's been good, and on a football team that has
Speaker 1: really had little else that's been steady and good as
Speaker 1: far as the wide receivers go. It's nice to have
Speaker 1: DJ Chark back, it's nice to have Chris Connley back.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, I also think that Keelan
Speaker 1: Cole is a good football player, especially a good football
Speaker 1: player when he's playing the exposition, which is probably a
Speaker 1: little bit more natural position. And then Chris Conney is
Speaker 1: a good football player too, But I also like Colin Johnson.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to say there's um no drop
Speaker 1: off when these guys played last week, because DJ Charks
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber type player. So there is some
Speaker 1: drop off, but not as much I think is with
Speaker 1: some some teams at that position. That's the one position
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have done a pretty good job personnel wise
Speaker 1: with it is the wide receiver group. One more note
Speaker 1: here on Robinson since we're kind of on the topic here.
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned all that bringing extra guys in
Speaker 1: the box. Now he's facing that a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and he's still producing with with all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: he's still and we had the stat last week he's
Speaker 1: only had eleven negative runs all year. That's still true.
Speaker 1: He didn't have any last week. He just keeps building
Speaker 1: onto it somehow finds a way to always get forward
Speaker 1: even though now, especially this time of year, teams know
Speaker 1: what what he has to offer. That that says something
Speaker 1: about the way he's played this season, which is remarkable
Speaker 1: to see. Well, no doubt, because if you're an opponent,
Speaker 1: you're you're the defensive coordinator, what are you worrying about?
Speaker 1: You're worrying about Gardner Minshew or Mike Lennar or Jake Lewton.
Speaker 1: Hell no, you know you're you're worrying about James Robinson.
Speaker 1: And uh and then just keeping you're saying you're one
Speaker 1: safety back to prevent a big play, you know, So
Speaker 1: give James Robinson a lot of credit. And one of
Speaker 1: the plays that I also tellustrated last night for Jaguar JP.
Speaker 1: You remember when the Jaguars were on the potential game
Speaker 1: tieing drive and they came out and they were throwing
Speaker 1: the ball around a little bit and have some success.
Speaker 1: And I made a comment during the broadcast and say, hey,
Speaker 1: don't forget about James Robinson. Well, the very next play
Speaker 1: they hand the ball off to James Robinson. It was
Speaker 1: kind of like a draw look because Glennon was in
Speaker 1: the shotgun and he reaches over to his right and
Speaker 1: hands the ball to James Robinson. And it was such
Speaker 1: a thing of beauty of what James Robinson did on
Speaker 1: that play. Because the Browns had what essentially was a
Speaker 1: six man box and the Jaguars had their five offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: so you gotta find somebody to block that six guy
Speaker 1: in the box with Tyler Effort was split out and
Speaker 1: he was a little bit detached from the offensive line group,
Speaker 1: so he has to come all the way into the
Speaker 1: formation and block a linebacker and it's a very hard
Speaker 1: block and it requires a little bit of time. So
Speaker 1: when James is hitting this on the draw, he actually
Speaker 1: kind of veers back to the side where Tyler Eiffort
Speaker 1: is at to allow the linebacker to freeze just enough
Speaker 1: to allow Eiffort to get in position. And then also
Speaker 1: that allows Brandon Lendar the center to get a little
Speaker 1: bit better position on the tackle. And then he breaks
Speaker 1: it off to the left side where you have the
Speaker 1: guard in the center or the guard and the left
Speaker 1: tackle kind of crossing blocking an end in linebacker combination.
Speaker 1: It was a thing of beauty. I mean an absolute
Speaker 1: thing of beauty where James set this up. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've watched Jaguars running backs for a long time, ever
Speaker 1: since this team came in existence, from Fred Taylor to
Speaker 1: Maury's Jones Drew, and Fred was an unbelievable talent of
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber back and Mary Jones Drew a
Speaker 1: special back. And and I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: they never did anything like that, but they didn't quite
Speaker 1: have that knack for setting up things because they just
Speaker 1: had great speed. They just go, you know, and they
Speaker 1: beat people from the steed and power. Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: James can't do that. He's not a guy that's just
Speaker 1: gonna outrun anybody, but he's gonna out efficient people, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna outsmart people. And that that play JP was
Speaker 1: an absolute thing of beauty, and if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: hopefully the Jaguars put it up on Twitter because it's
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to, you know, pump myself up here.
Speaker 1: This is about James Robinson and the play that and
Speaker 1: the job that he did on this particular play. Everybody
Speaker 1: watched the Jeff Logavan segment on Twitter. Coming up a
Speaker 1: little bit later. I'm kidding, of course, Uh not, it
Speaker 1: will be soon. We're back in a moment, though, j Ohn.
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Speaker 1: we'll find out. Let's take a time out. It might
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Speaker 1: dot com. You know, everything in this league is day
Speaker 1: to day, a week to week, you know, and I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when we're having a season, you know
Speaker 1: that we're having right now and we're trying to get
Speaker 1: ourselves focused on Minnesota, you know, for a wind. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think i'd be it'd be it'd be
Speaker 1: naive of me to say, you know, um that every
Speaker 1: every position you know what I'm saying, has to play well,
Speaker 1: you know, from week to week, and if we feel
Speaker 1: like someone else behind them can produce better or give
Speaker 1: us a better chance to win, and I think, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go ahead and make that move. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to put it just on the one position.
Speaker 1: It's really all positions that we're looking at, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to do that. Head coach Doug Morone earlier
Speaker 1: this week. That was his answer to the question if
Speaker 1: Glennon had had the job the rest of the year
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and they put it on all positions, and
Speaker 1: that's where the Jaguars all right now ten consecutive losses.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman.
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli joins us now on the program. Tony, good afternoon.
Speaker 1: First of all, good to see it. How we're hanging
Speaker 1: in there, Tony, How are you doing? I'm doing outstanding?
Speaker 1: J P. Chili for me it I'm doing good. It's
Speaker 1: like seven degrees outside this absolutely, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I'm so a long time. It's like it's like a
Speaker 1: warm day out there today. It's really you can see
Speaker 1: I got my as what's it called on my hoodie?
Speaker 1: I see that, yes, inside that. You know, you can
Speaker 1: turn on the heat indoors to Let's get to the
Speaker 1: big news of the week though we we we obviously
Speaker 1: have discussed this on Monday with you, Tony, but a
Speaker 1: few days have gone by now since the Dave Caldwell firing. Um,
Speaker 1: anything new at least in your mindset about that. And
Speaker 1: you know now you just know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: That's there's going to be change, and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: an interesting first week of January. It feels like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all sense it was coming.
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess we didn't know the timing, but
Speaker 1: we knew it was coming and that it was probably
Speaker 1: inevitable based on the record and kind of how the
Speaker 1: season was going. And um, and that's where we ended up,
Speaker 1: and that's where we are now, and that's where it's
Speaker 1: going to be. I don't know if there's ever I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever the right time to do anything,
Speaker 1: but but I do know this. When you have three
Speaker 1: other organizations in the National Football League that already had
Speaker 1: relieved their general managers of duties and if you want
Speaker 1: to be I don't want to say in the race,
Speaker 1: but if you want to be in the conversation with
Speaker 1: certain people, because even though around the league it's it's
Speaker 1: it's expected that you wait until the season to finish
Speaker 1: before you start talking to people, the reality is that
Speaker 1: those conversations happen all the time before seasons end. And
Speaker 1: so if you want to be able to I don't
Speaker 1: want to say be first in line, but be in
Speaker 1: the mix. You know, you've got to go ahead and
Speaker 1: and start having those conversations because I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at the number of jobs that already opened yet Houston open,
Speaker 1: you have Atlanta opened, and then Detroit Fire fired their
Speaker 1: GM the week before, so it's and you have head coaches.
Speaker 1: I think there's could be as many as seven or
Speaker 1: eight jobs open this year. So um, we're still waiting
Speaker 1: to see if it happened Doug your own. But uh,
Speaker 1: if you want to have your GM in place to
Speaker 1: allow and to work with that individual to pick your
Speaker 1: head coach, I imagine you want it done before that,
Speaker 1: you know pretty quickly once the season ends, because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a mad rush. I think for head coaching.
Speaker 1: Part of that too, is that you can't talk to
Speaker 1: GM candidates who are still have a season going on, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to wait until all that's what
Speaker 1: if that's something that you can talk to their the rules,
Speaker 1: no JP that those conversations happened. I'm looking at what
Speaker 1: would be wrong if somebody that was aligned with ownership
Speaker 1: decided to call an agent and say, hey, look, you know,
Speaker 1: we really like your guy and just want to let
Speaker 1: you know that we understand that we can't have a
Speaker 1: conversation with your guy. He's got a job right now,
Speaker 1: but we just want to let you know that, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to talk to him at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. And here's kind of the parameters what we
Speaker 1: were thinking about the job description or you know, page
Speaker 1: probably gonna be somewhere around this, but you know, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we don't want to talk to your client. We just
Speaker 1: want to give you an idea of what the parameters are.
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is that that happened, and uh
Speaker 1: and if if the league continues to I don't want
Speaker 1: to say turn a blind eye to it and not
Speaker 1: admit it, because they it's not like they're addressing it.
Speaker 1: But the reality is that those things happen. So there
Speaker 1: you have it. The let's get back to this game now. Well,
Speaker 1: we got plenty of time obviously talking about the the
Speaker 1: GM roll and everything moving ahead, and we'll have, as
Speaker 1: we said, an interesting first week of January. This week,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting week for the Jaguars defense against the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings team that all of a sudden is getting warm,
Speaker 1: especially in the offensive side. Kirk Cousins with a rating
Speaker 1: or better the last five weeks or four and one
Speaker 1: in that span. Feeland is off the COVID list this week.
Speaker 1: Jefferson is in the running for Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: at receiver. They've got the running back Dalvin Cook second
Speaker 1: in the league in attempts and yardage, and Tony They've
Speaker 1: got it going really well. And the matchup against this
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, I must say, is not ideal. Let's put
Speaker 1: it that way. Well, is there an ideal matchup right
Speaker 1: now for the Jacks defense based on all the injuries
Speaker 1: they've had, Probably all that's going on. Probably, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the Jets would be a good one. I
Speaker 1: mean a team that hasn't won a football game this year.
Speaker 1: So no, it's tough and they've got good players and
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins coming off the um uh NFC Player of
Speaker 1: the Week UM last week after a really good game
Speaker 1: over three yards three touchdowns, UM played out standing footba
Speaker 1: all brought their team back late against the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: So you know, we know about Dalvin Cook. He is
Speaker 1: a little beat up UM. I think the one good
Speaker 1: thing is it's not a real physical offensive line and
Speaker 1: so maybe you can get after that a little bit.
Speaker 1: But they got some good, really good skilled players, really
Speaker 1: good skilled players, and including the tight end group, even
Speaker 1: though IRV Smith is is dinged up and didn't practice
Speaker 1: yesterday and today. The Rudolph's a good player and two
Speaker 1: good receivers and pretty interesting. I know Tony is a
Speaker 1: big subscriber to PFF, but he's like the highest rated
Speaker 1: receiver according to PFF that there is a National Football League, which,
Speaker 1: like I know that a lot of times you can
Speaker 1: take some of that stuff and throw it out the window,
Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to offensive linement. But for the
Speaker 1: skill players, some of that stuff I think is definitely
Speaker 1: applicable and can be used. But to have the highest
Speaker 1: rating of a wide receiver by PFF, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: pretty strong accomplishment. And if you look at him as
Speaker 1: far as yardage, I think he's eight, but in receptions
Speaker 1: he's twenty four. And so that I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: every time he touches the ball, he's getting a lot
Speaker 1: of r good player, I guess there's yeah, good player.
Speaker 1: And how about the Jaguars secondary of this week? Curious
Speaker 1: to see who's back. Sydney Jones sniffing around there he
Speaker 1: could be back. Could Josh Jones be back in the
Speaker 1: back end? They need all the help they can get.
Speaker 1: Certainly this week likes Yeah, they need Sydney Jones. I
Speaker 1: would think more than anybody. And I know that Josh
Speaker 1: Jones could be back, but he's more of think of
Speaker 1: a box type of safety. If he were more of
Speaker 1: a free type of safety, then I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great, great to get him back. But Sydney Jones,
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, he's he's your your best corner.
Speaker 1: He was your best corner either when when you had C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson that was out there on the field. He's been consistent.
Speaker 1: I think he ended up starting about five games. This
Speaker 1: will be number six if he's able to play. And
Speaker 1: it looks like he's practicing now, so that's a positive sign.
Speaker 1: But the issue is is that they have two really
Speaker 1: good receivers, So Ken Trey Herndon, if he's going to
Speaker 1: be the starter on the opposite side, can he handle
Speaker 1: at and then what would you do at the nickel spot?
Speaker 1: To Scott still played the nickel and he struggled a
Speaker 1: little bit against Landry who was not exactly a speedy
Speaker 1: guy in the Cleveland Browns. Or would Barkoo be a
Speaker 1: potential nickel guy? I don't see that happening, But this
Speaker 1: is secondary has a lot of challenges, Jeff, I don't
Speaker 1: think Barkoo is a short, short area guy that you
Speaker 1: need to be in nickel and he's definitely he's an
Speaker 1: outside guy. Who else do you play? You know, do
Speaker 1: you have any other guys that you can play? I
Speaker 1: mean you've got Gregg Mayben and he's been with the
Speaker 1: Jaguars I think for two days of practice prior to
Speaker 1: the game last week, and can can he get up
Speaker 1: to speed on what the Jaguars are doing to be
Speaker 1: a player in the reality is anytime you climb a
Speaker 1: player off of waivers, I mean, what type of quality
Speaker 1: player are you talking about? I mean, he's probably a
Speaker 1: journeyman type of player because that's how you got him.
Speaker 1: So the other question I think that is in my
Speaker 1: mind is that you know you lose Von Hamilton's because
Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost, you gotta stop Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have Von Hamilton's, what do you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, who who's gonna play the nose? Then who's
Speaker 1: gonna play the three? And and can constant play the nose?
Speaker 1: And if he plays the nose, who's gonna play the
Speaker 1: three technique? And it's not like there's a plethora of
Speaker 1: defensive lineman on this roster or on the practice squad. Right,
Speaker 1: the depth is certainly an issue there on the defensive
Speaker 1: line now, and that's where it starts on the defensive side,
Speaker 1: certainly against Cook. You know he Dalvin is one of
Speaker 1: the most explosive backs in the league. We know about Henry,
Speaker 1: but the way this guy runs, uh Tony is just
Speaker 1: he can break it at any moment and superstar speed
Speaker 1: for Cook, Well, he's so elusive, JP your point, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a guy who is shift. He's great in the
Speaker 1: open field, he's a good receiver, great the screen game. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, He's not a powerful guy, but sneaky power.
Speaker 1: He will run through arm tackles. Um, I mean I thought,
Speaker 1: and Jeff, I mean you remember I thought he was
Speaker 1: one of the best backs coming out of the draft
Speaker 1: and it was the Weather Boda and McCaffrey draft. I
Speaker 1: thought he was just dynamic watching him with Borida State. So, um,
Speaker 1: he's proved you thought he was the best of the
Speaker 1: munch I did. I mean, I think he just has
Speaker 1: stud Now. Obviously mcrat McCaffrey's probably end up being the
Speaker 1: best of the bunch, no doubt about that. Um, but
Speaker 1: he is super impressive. Had that early knee injury in
Speaker 1: his career, but has certainly bounced back from that. Let's
Speaker 1: come back In a Moment one final segment, Jared Wilson
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Speaker 1: how the guys went out there and competed in this
Speaker 1: adverse situation. And uh, you know, obviously we fell short
Speaker 1: and that's not what our goal is UM, But but
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of credit to our players
Speaker 1: through this transition this past week. Todd washed defensive coordinator today.
Speaker 1: He missed last week's game and had to watch it
Speaker 1: from a hotel room where he was quarantined for ten
Speaker 1: straight days. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick
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Speaker 1: coming up, and the coaching staff kind of getting back together.
Speaker 1: Todd washback in the practice field this week. Jason Rebovich
Speaker 1: is back. Stukes is still away from the team. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of moving parts last week for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars on defense on the practice field and then
Speaker 1: on the game field as well. Joe Dana had to
Speaker 1: call the plays on defense a week ago, and I
Speaker 1: think Todd's glad to be out of that hotel room. Logs.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, Yeah, I mean, do you think, uh
Speaker 1: like I don't think they like locked him up or anything,
Speaker 1: and said, you can't go anywhere. But uh, and look,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk a whole lot about the
Speaker 1: COVID situation, but a tough situation to be in. And uh,
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Speaker 1: able to be involved actively all week long in the
Speaker 1: game plan and and Doug Brone talked about it later
Speaker 1: in a week he said, look, you know, we didn't
Speaker 1: have our guys which was essentially for about two hours
Speaker 1: a day, which was a practice, he said, but everywhere
Speaker 1: else they were involved. And so glad, I mean, what
Speaker 1: a tough situation to be in, and that you have
Speaker 1: an extremely young defense and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're hit with four significant injuries to where four guys
Speaker 1: have to go on i R. And you start to
Speaker 1: play guys that haven't played and their rookies, and now
Speaker 1: you've got to get them ready to play. But yet
Speaker 1: your coaches can't be there to instruct them and to
Speaker 1: encourage them. And as a player, that's got to be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lonely feeling. But that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is in this COVID world we live in.
Speaker 1: That's for sure, no doubt. Avery Jones was out there
Speaker 1: running defensive line drills last week for a little while, Tony.
Speaker 1: But it was tough sliding and give the guys credit
Speaker 1: because they worked hard and they figured out a way
Speaker 1: to get around it. Um. It was less an ideal Listen,
Speaker 1: none of us are living an ideal world right now. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's tough and it's and you hated for the
Speaker 1: coaching staff to have to go through that. But I
Speaker 1: give the players a lot of credit because it came
Speaker 1: out and fought that played hard. It's one thing that
Speaker 1: this team has done, has done instantly, and I feel
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be the case down the stretch to
Speaker 1: the five to go. On defense, the Jaguars have veteran
Speaker 1: safety Jared Wilson on the team. He missed some time
Speaker 1: earlier in the year on i R, but he's been
Speaker 1: back out there and the Jaguars have nominated Wilson for
Speaker 1: the Athletes and Action Bart Starr Award. This is the
Speaker 1: award that Calais Campbell won a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and uh it's for the NFL player who best exemplifies
Speaker 1: outstanding character and leadership in the home, on the field
Speaker 1: and in the community. So congratulations to Jared Wilson for
Speaker 1: the nomination and well deserving longs. Yeah, he's uh. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if you guys have had a chance
Speaker 1: to talk with him at any extended a period of time.
Speaker 1: But when when we were up in Minnesota with the
Speaker 1: practices with the Minnesota Vikings, what was that a year ago?
Speaker 1: I guess it was. I had the chance to talk
Speaker 1: with him and visit with him a couple of different times.
Speaker 1: And he's one of the most fun guys and interesting
Speaker 1: guys who talked to, extremely intelligent his ball. Uh, definitely
Speaker 1: have great conversations with him about football, but also a
Speaker 1: lot of other things. And and Todd washed his clothes
Speaker 1: about him. Todd Washed talked today extensively about Jared Wilson
Speaker 1: about how much of a leader he is and how
Speaker 1: he commands the room and how guys respect him, and
Speaker 1: that's a lot. I mean, that's a tremendous saying about him.
Speaker 1: And one thing that we notice, I think is is
Speaker 1: just football fans and obviously analysts for for the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: is that how much better the Jaguars secondary plays when
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson is back there versus when he's not back
Speaker 1: there as a group, and I think that's the most
Speaker 1: significant compliment you can give anybody, and that boy, the
Speaker 1: team just plays better when they've got him, and everybody
Speaker 1: else plays better around him because of him. And so
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say enough positive things
Speaker 1: about a Jared Wilson. He had to buy this time
Speaker 1: around here, Tony and kind of back up those guys
Speaker 1: from that team, and he's kind of hung around and
Speaker 1: now he got his opportunity in the in the secondary
Speaker 1: here Tony. Oh yeah. He started off as a best
Speaker 1: teams guy and he worked his tale off and you
Speaker 1: know it was a guy that you know, was had
Speaker 1: to fight every year. And uh, I think he showed
Speaker 1: glimpse early that like, hey, this is a guy who's
Speaker 1: gonna um work his tail off and on special teams.
Speaker 1: And when he got in there, he looked like he
Speaker 1: could do some nice things. You know, you know who
Speaker 1: else is like that a little bit this year and
Speaker 1: a smaller sample size Daniel Thomas. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at you talk to the coaches, he kind of
Speaker 1: set the tone on um, how he how he performed
Speaker 1: on special teams, and I think that earned the trust
Speaker 1: that when he went out there, he'd be okay. And
Speaker 1: I think Jerald wi wasn't did the same thing over
Speaker 1: a longer period of time obviously because he had guys
Speaker 1: who were established starters in front of him. Um and
Speaker 1: so good for him. So now the next trick is
Speaker 1: to see if we can get James Robinson a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Not there won't be a game this year, of course,
Speaker 1: but there still will be a Pro Bowl team picked,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's got a shot. It's a tough
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit of a long shot though,
Speaker 1: considering the record everything going on. But if he keeps
Speaker 1: putting up numbers, you never know, Right, guys, James Robinson
Speaker 1: could get there. I think so, I mean it's gonna
Speaker 1: be I mean, I think he deserves it. But at
Speaker 1: the same token, will he get there JP, That's a
Speaker 1: that's a tough ask because playing on a one and
Speaker 1: ten small market football team that hasn't been very good lately,
Speaker 1: and that's that's hard to accomplish. The reality is, though,
Speaker 1: that he deserves to be on a Pro Bowl. A
Speaker 1: f C squad. How many tailbacks do they take? I
Speaker 1: mean they take like two or three guys, right, and
Speaker 1: that right, That's right. Yeah, I just think it's tough.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's really tough. I mean
Speaker 1: you look at the a f C and you look
Speaker 1: at running backs, and you have to start looking at
Speaker 1: the guys who are on you know, kind of established teams.
Speaker 1: I mean you have you have two backs in in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and both Kareem Hunt and one of them for
Speaker 1: sure possibly both of those guys could end up going.
Speaker 1: You have Derek Henry obviously he's in there. That leaves
Speaker 1: one spot. Um, and if you go through it, I
Speaker 1: mean it becomes really difficult for a guy. Is Jeff said,
Speaker 1: you know, no one's paying attention to the Jaguars have
Speaker 1: lost ten straight, small market undrafted guy. So um, I
Speaker 1: think you do. I think he deserves a shot absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think in JP we talked about if this was
Speaker 1: a normal year where they actually played the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a bunch of alternates. I think
Speaker 1: he for sure ends up in Orlando or wherever the
Speaker 1: heck they were going the game this year. So um,
Speaker 1: I mean, he he has he has been remarkable. I
Speaker 1: don't care if he makes a Pro Bowl or not.
Speaker 1: He has had a remarkable year. Jeff has said at
Speaker 1: multiple times on the broadcast, where would this team be
Speaker 1: without him? Wouldn't be good question? No, Josh Jacobs another guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, another guy, good JP. But I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs also has a team that's been pretty competitive.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars have one win and and I
Speaker 1: think Jay Gruden said it last week he said, can
Speaker 1: you imagine what James Robinson's output would be if the
Speaker 1: Jaguars were able to play with a lead occasionally towards
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game and where you can
Speaker 1: handle ball off to James Robinson, allow him to kill
Speaker 1: the clock and get more touches. I mean that it
Speaker 1: would be tremendous. But but nonetheless, I think I think
Speaker 1: the people in the National Football League that watched film
Speaker 1: and and watch it, I think they appreciate James Robinson.
Speaker 1: And every week that the Jaguars getting ready to face
Speaker 1: somebody from Mike Tomlin on down every other coach that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have base, one of the first name out
Speaker 1: of their mouths has been James Robinson. The fan base,
Speaker 1: I think, and I say the fan base, the NFL
Speaker 1: fan base, There may be a lot of them that
Speaker 1: still don't even know who the hell James Robinson is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the reality. Like Tony said, he
Speaker 1: was undrafted, and when you come in and you're undrafted,
Speaker 1: nobody knows who you are, so that all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they keep seeing a name. The one thing I
Speaker 1: think that has helped j Robinson, I think it's helped
Speaker 1: every NFL player is the fantasy output, because James has
Speaker 1: continued to be a pretty good fantasy player. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's some people out there in the draft and
Speaker 1: are really late and we're very happy to have him.
Speaker 1: But fantasy certainly helps the exposure for a guy like
Speaker 1: James Robinson certainly does. Final thoughts about the game coming
Speaker 1: up Sunday, the Jaguars and the Vikings. The Jags that
Speaker 1: want to tend the Vikings need the game certainly to
Speaker 1: keep pace in the NFC playoff picture. The offense is
Speaker 1: playing well up there historically obviously a tough place to play,
Speaker 1: but the fans will not be an issue this week. Tony,
Speaker 1: what is your feeling on Thursday going into Sunday's game. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's tough for all things we talked about. They got
Speaker 1: really good skill set, of skill positions, and uh, this
Speaker 1: is a team that's beat up defensively. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not great defensively than theirselves. So maybe you can
Speaker 1: get something going and score some points. And we talked
Speaker 1: about James Robinson, but going up to Minnesota with the
Speaker 1: plan of team that's fighting to stay in the playoff
Speaker 1: fount you bought tennant Row, I think it's tough. It's
Speaker 1: tough task. Yeah, definitely a tough task. Of the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings are a little bit on a roll. They won
Speaker 1: four out of their last five. They can score some points.
Speaker 1: Their defense is young, though, and so if if Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon can get a little hot, get a little bit
Speaker 1: better than what he was his past game, and the
Speaker 1: receivers can have significant games against a very young secondary,
Speaker 1: then they got a chance. You know. And this football team,
Speaker 1: I'm not counting them out. I mean Doug Brown has
Speaker 1: been I thinkin over the last number of weeks, has
Speaker 1: gotten this team to play extremely hard and to be
Speaker 1: extremely competitive. And the reality is, I think that that's
Speaker 1: a job. I think that's been done with some players
Speaker 1: that aren't exactly the best in the world. So, uh,
Speaker 1: if they can do it again against the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: and kudos to them. It would be a nice, nice
Speaker 1: day at the office of the Jacks. Can get something done,
Speaker 1: certainly this week at us Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. Tony,
Speaker 1: thank you for the time. We will talk to you
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Always great to be with you, guys.
Speaker 1: Tony Baselly is out of here. Pride of the Jaguars
Speaker 1: Left Tackle Final thoughts logs All Access tonight. When you
Speaker 1: go out on All Access, we got me Brand Martineau
Speaker 1: and n J P. I talked about the James Robinson
Speaker 1: effect earlier in the show, and tonight we're actually gonna
Speaker 1: draw it up and show you how the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: reacted to a James Robinson and how it cleared the
Speaker 1: path and opened it up for Colin Johnson's touchdown. Kept
Speaker 1: so tune in for that. We also have Josh Alan
Speaker 1: going to talk to him a little bit and see
Speaker 1: how he's doing. And of course the ever lovable Brent Martineau,
Speaker 1: which I know you're a big fan is and you'll
Speaker 1: tune in just to watch him. That's right, must see
Speaker 1: TV tonight, All Access, Fox Dirty at the seven o'clock
Speaker 1: and that will come up in just a little bit
Speaker 1: before we get to that, though. The Doug Moron Show
Speaker 1: is coming up in just a few minutes. We'll hear
Speaker 1: from the Jaguars head coach from his office at t
Speaker 1: I A. Bank Fields. The Jaguars head into this week
Speaker 1: thirt team matchup against the Minnesota Vikings, trying to snap
Speaker 1: this ten game skid. They'll try to do it on
Speaker 1: the road. Mike Glenn getting the start at quarterback for
Speaker 1: the second straight week, and we'll see if the defense
Speaker 1: can get some guys back back on the on the
Speaker 1: field this Sunday to match up against his Vikings offense.
Speaker 1: That's all coming up the Doug Moron Show right around
Speaker 1: the corner. Thanks to Tony Vaselli for Jeff Logman. I'm
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the
Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network.