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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going to everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>And it is Thursday here on the show. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that means well, we got a lot to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. No co host today, I'm flying solo.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the final segment of the show, we will

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<v Speaker 1>be joined by our old friend Vinnie Pacifico. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the show today. Actually got to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with him a couple of weeks ago the SOS

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things going on with him and prior

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<v Speaker 1>the second major segment of the show, we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Dynamite show from last night. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>Collision show that is taking place tonight, so we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about the lineup for that show. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, there's a lot going on. We got Collision,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Impact, we got under Siege, we got Smacked Down,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Saturday Night's main event, we got Battleground, we

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<v Speaker 1>got Double or Nothing, we got Raw. That's all between

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<v Speaker 1>now and Monday. And there's also an Arena Mexico show.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, there's Best of the Super Juniors, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to watch everybody, so we'll get into some of that

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<v Speaker 1>here today. And also got an update on Zoe Star.

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<v Speaker 1>We got big news on WrestleMania. We got some notes

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<v Speaker 1>in the New Japan Best of the Super Juniors, and

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<v Speaker 1>In the show Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer A Live,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get going, got a lot to talk about. Soy

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<v Speaker 1>Stark has said thank you to fans for their love

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<v Speaker 1>and support. She said it means more to her than

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<v Speaker 1>they'll ever know. What hurts more than my knee, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>is knowing I won't be able to perform for all

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<v Speaker 1>of you for a while. I love what I do

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm blessed to do this. As the saying goes,

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<v Speaker 1>the comeback is greater than the setback. Love you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no official word on her knee, but the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she says she will not be performing for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, well obviously something went badly wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that means torn acl I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that means she tore everything, but it does appear she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be out of action for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the best to her, and maybe we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>an update. Maybe we won't sting With wrestling nowadays, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they'll tell us what's going on, and sometimes they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the best to her. Now, some big news

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually don't know the extent of this yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will very soon. WWE, as reported by Brnan Thurst,

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<v Speaker 1>obtained he obtained a statement from the Greater New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>Sport Foundation that claims the city will be hosting WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>not next year, but in a quote later unspecified year.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a really big story because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they announced WrestleMania New Orleans, and not only do they

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<v Speaker 1>announce a WrestleMania in New Orleans, but you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the independent groups. I mean, you know, tickets

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<v Speaker 1>or hotels were purchased and buildings were rented, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is more than just WWE, you know, canceling WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. I mean, this is gonna have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>effect on all of the other promotions that had already

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<v Speaker 1>made plans to run New Orleans over WrestleMania weekend. So obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the deal here is they're getting a better deal somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are three places that are being rumored as

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<v Speaker 1>of today, And well, of course they can just cancel

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<v Speaker 1>their plans, but I mean I'm talking like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on what the deal they made with particular buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can they get the entire deposit back, and

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<v Speaker 1>they not. It's one thing with hotels, but it might

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<v Speaker 1>be something different with renting out buildings and everything that

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<v Speaker 1>goes into putting together a series of shows over WrestleMania weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the three rumored locations for WrestleMania next year

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<v Speaker 1>are now London, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. So I see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the chat are presuming it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Saudi Arabia. The thing with Saudi Arabia, Saudi

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<v Speaker 1>Arabia is getting the Royal Rumble, and I suppose they

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<v Speaker 1>could also change the Royal rumble. You know, let's been

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<v Speaker 1>do the Royal Rumble somewhere else and then do WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>in Saudi. But I mean, if you ask me, my

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<v Speaker 1>gut tells me that Saudi is the least likely of

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<v Speaker 1>the three possibilities. I think, very good chance. London. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been talked about for a long time. Obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as aw did a and crowd in Wembley,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew that we was going to want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in and you know, break that record. And the other option,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think, especially because the whole situation with the

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<v Speaker 1>purchase of Triple A. And it's more than just wanting

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<v Speaker 1>a presence in Mexico. They obviously want a big presence

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico, but also they want to be number one

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. They want to beat CMLL. I mean as

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<v Speaker 1>tech stadium for WrestleMania, I don't think is out of

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<v Speaker 1>the question. So I presume we're going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>fairly soon where WrestleMania is going to be next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is not going to be in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, whether it's in London or whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. I mean, there's a reason for this, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is either we're going after a w or we're

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<v Speaker 1>going after CMLL. So we'll find out who's top of

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<v Speaker 1>the list for this coming year. So that's the update

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<v Speaker 1>on that. If you if you made plans for New Orleans, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can still go to New Orleans. It's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but you ain't gonna see WrestleMania there. All right. We've

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<v Speaker 1>also got to talk some ratings notes. I know people

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to talk about ratings, but I'll make it quick.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, at XT six hundred and ninety seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>viewers and a point thirteen, so viewership was up and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to forty nine was down. So just basically more

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<v Speaker 1>old people were watching the show. Nothing really to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about there is what is notable here is RAW. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. And this applies to a WWE and AW,

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<v Speaker 1>it applies to Raw, and it applies to Max. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any idea how these shows are doing. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Max doesn't give any information at all. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly Tony a AW, they can't even get any information

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<v Speaker 1>about how many people are watching on Max other than

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing well whatever that means. And you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>Raw on Netflix, Netflix announces numbers and then everybody tries

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<v Speaker 1>to do math to find out, well, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>were were actually watching. So according to Netflix, the April twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>Raw did five point one million viewing hours and two

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million global viewers. So this would mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>RAW did one point one five six million viewers over

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<v Speaker 1>seven days, and like the same day viewership of RAW

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<v Speaker 1>would allegedly be nine hundred and eighty three thousand viewers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and eighty three thousand viewers. Now, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this a little bit yesterday. I don't buy this

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I don't think there's any way that only

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and eighty thousand people are watching raw on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday nights. I don't know. Like with Nielsen, the way

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<v Speaker 1>they get the viewership as well. You know there's this

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<v Speaker 1>number of households. In each household, there's X number of viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if maybe Netflix just says if it's

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<v Speaker 1>on in the house, it's one viewer. I mean, people

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<v Speaker 1>are are gonna go nuts in the chat, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is reality, everybody, Okay, we know that a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of the aw viewership is watching on Max. I

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<v Speaker 1>know people like to say it's there's nobody watching whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are Okay. I've always estimated between one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty and two hundred and fifty thousand people are

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<v Speaker 1>watching on Max. I don't think it's a half million

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<v Speaker 1>people watching on Max. I don't think it's a million people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think on a good week it's probably near two fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>On a bad week, it's maybe closer to one fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking like between one hundred and fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand people. And people can deny

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<v Speaker 1>it all they want, but like every time we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it on the chat, you know, on the YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>chat you can ask anybody, lots of people are watching

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<v Speaker 1>on Max. I quit watching, like I only watch on

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<v Speaker 1>Max all the shows. I don't think it's crazy that

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand people are watching AW on Max.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is what? I find it hard to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that if you add in TBS and TNT the viewership

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<v Speaker 1>of Dynamite Collision, especially Dynamite, and you add in the

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<v Speaker 1>Max viewership, what this would be saying is that Raw

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<v Speaker 1>and Dynamite are basically neck and neck. And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy that just from looking at what are these shows

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<v Speaker 1>drawing to the buildings, How many people are showing up

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<v Speaker 1>for the shows? You know, what are they drawing for television?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they drawing when they go on the road?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how are they doing in terms of big shows?

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<v Speaker 1>How are they doing in terms like every aspect of business.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe that Raw on Monday Night and Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday are essentially doing the same viewership. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, but I think something is really weird with

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<v Speaker 1>these Netflix numbers. I can't buy that Raw on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago did nine hundred and eighty three thousand viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense, but that's that's allegedly the number.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it was easy in the old days

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<v Speaker 1>when everybody, like, whatever you think about Nielsen ratings, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're accurate or not, at least like they

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<v Speaker 1>were all Nielsen ratings, So whether they were accutate or not,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all you could compare them all. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Netflix has this wacky number and whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Max has who knows, I mean, we don't know. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tony Kahn's doing a media call right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he just said he said Max is still

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<v Speaker 1>building pay per view capability. I remember I said that

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<v Speaker 1>like six eight months ago, and we had these fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>one in particular, who said, you're wrong. They could do

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view if they wanted, they should hire me.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have it set up and actually said that

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<v Speaker 1>if they hired me, I'd have it set up immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they're still building.

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<v Speaker 9>It, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, All right, we got to talk about this this

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamite show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very good go home show for the

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<v Speaker 1>show this weekend, and we still have Collision coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a Hangman Will Osprey face to face,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was excellent. Two baby faces. They both

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<v Speaker 1>really want the title for their own reasons. They both

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<v Speaker 1>there was no physicality, nothing, They just both stated their

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<v Speaker 1>case and to be honest, I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do a turn or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>of the two, you know, Osprey was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had the edge there at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the heel edge and he said that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to he was gonna take out hang Man. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do about it? Wrap a chair around my skull?

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<v Speaker 1>Beat me so bad I have to retire, like Chris Daniels.

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman was very upset about that, and they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>drinking together and it was excellent. Like if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see a great go home section for a match,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. And when it was over, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Osprey is asked for the main event slot at

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<v Speaker 1>the pay per view. It definitely feels like the most

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<v Speaker 1>important match on the show because it does seem like

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<v Speaker 1>the winner of this match is going to all in

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<v Speaker 1>and winning that title from John Moxley. Seems like a very,

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<v Speaker 1>very very important match. But man, I'm not sure about

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<v Speaker 1>following that anarchy in an arena. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I'd do that, but that's what he wanted. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we had Moxley and the Young Bucks versus Joe, Swerve

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<v Speaker 1>and Hobbs. Party match. Excellent match, great heat. The finish

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<v Speaker 1>was Joe choking out Nick pin Matt Clean with a cradle,

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<v Speaker 1>which was revenge for I think about a week ago

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<v Speaker 1>when Matt pinned him with a small package. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the Death Writers came out and we had Shabbada, Marina Willow,

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Kenny oh Omega, everybody running wild and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing because like they did a challenge afterwards with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe say, we're gonna beat you guys up tonight. Why

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<v Speaker 1>wait for Sunday? But I will say, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in the show, we still didn't know who

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<v Speaker 1>was in the anarchy in the arena match, and honestly, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>right now we still don't really know. They've announced a

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<v Speaker 1>match and it was Simojo Shabata, Swerve, Hobbes, Omega and

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<v Speaker 1>Willow against Moxley, Claudio Wheeler, Young Bucks and Marina. So

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<v Speaker 1>six on six, but they announced this before they did

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<v Speaker 1>the main event segment, which saw the return of Gabe

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<v Speaker 1>Kid to uneven the odds in favor of the Heels

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<v Speaker 1>and so like. Officially at this point it's six on six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be seven on seven and Gabe

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<v Speaker 1>Kid will be added and probably the return of Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston on the Babyface side, but again we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall I guess find out on Sunday or maybe tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably Sunday. We had the Hurt Syndicate segment and

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP MJF contract signing, and this was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things. You know, we had a guy

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<v Speaker 1>call say, you know what what what names some storylines

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>that were like really really great, but the payoff was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of whatever. And granted this wasn't the full payoff,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure there's more to come. But last week

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<v Speaker 1>MJF was accepted into the Hurt Syndicate, but they said

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<v Speaker 1>next week you must sign the contract, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think myself and everybody on the planet figured, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>something's going down next week. Ain't gonna be good for MJF.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead what they did is MJF signed the contract,

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<v Speaker 1>the other guys signed the contract, and then Dustin Rhodes

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<v Speaker 1>and Sammy just came out and cut a promo for

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<v Speaker 1>the tag match. There was no angle, there was no surprise, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They just I don't even know why we needed to

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<v Speaker 1>extend it another week after they accepted him last week.

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<v Speaker 1>So it felt like, well, maybe there was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>something that happened, but so many people were figuring it

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<v Speaker 1>out that they just shifted and they'll do the turn later.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it was weird. I mean, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>weird one. So then we had Rikoshet and Anthony Bowens

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Bones came out kind of had the

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<v Speaker 1>booboo face, got beat when Billy Gunn did something stupid

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<v Speaker 1>for reasons unknown, and Ricochet jabbed him with the scissors,

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<v Speaker 1>pinned him, and then Bones was out of there and

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<v Speaker 1>they did an angle with Mark Briscoe and Ricochet, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know they do they do wins and

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<v Speaker 1>losses and everything, and you know they don't do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of screw job finishes, but man, they this felt.

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<v Speaker 1>This felt like when you used to watch we and

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<v Speaker 1>you know a guy would get a push for three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and then you know Vince would give up on him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this felt like here. So we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>the future is for Anthony Bowens. We had Renee interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes and Jamie. I thought it was pretty good. Not

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as good as the segment with will Ospray and

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<v Speaker 1>hang Man, but it was fine and ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>a brawl unlike the opening segment, and Jamie later out

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<v Speaker 1>with eight or eight. So the way they pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>everybody books, I think it's pretty clear we're getting Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>and Tony at all in and the main event. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a very interesting to look at the quarters here,

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<v Speaker 1>because yes, I realized that Joe said, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>this anarchy in the arena is going to start tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said that like an hour and a half earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though I saw it an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half later, there'd been no mention of it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Mina Shirakaw and Julia Hart and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the main event. This is it. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not have done this for a main event, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was fine. Mina Shirakaw was awesome. Julia hard

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<v Speaker 1>could very much do with a tour of Japan do

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of indie dates. I mean, she is one

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<v Speaker 1>of many in aw that you know, they're basically where

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<v Speaker 1>they were five years ago, and it's just not enough reps.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't improve doing a show a month or less,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you've been injured. So it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>huge gulf in like the ability of these two women.

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<v Speaker 1>Mina was incredible and she won obviously, and then Julie went. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>sky Blue hit the ring, Tony Storm hit the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>had a big brawl, and then like I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was good. You know, they did the face to face

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<v Speaker 1>with will Ospray and Hangman. They didn't any physicality, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this one needed any either, But Mina

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<v Speaker 1>attacked Tony put her in the figure four around the post.

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Tony sold it big, and this one to me felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think we needed this one. I think

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it was just fine to do the match, do the angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus there's gonna be a bunch of as we found

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<v Speaker 1>out afterwards, physicality afterwards with the Anarchy and the arena crew.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bucks go to leave Matt in a cocky manner,

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>says this. Joe said he was gonna attack us before

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>we left, but we're leaving and he did an attack us,

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>so he is a pathological liar, and he winks and

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>goes to leave, and of course here comes Joe and

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<v Speaker 1>we have the wild brawl, and you know, the Babyfaces

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>are are doing well. But then Gabe Kid shows up

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and they did the record scratch with the music they

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>had playing, and the Heels took over Omegan Swerve got

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>put through tables by the Bucks and the Heels stood

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a tall. So we'll see what they do on Sunday.

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the Death Writers lost the Trios titles.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first crack in the armor. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that maybe the best course of action is for

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Moxley to get the pin in Anarchy in the arena

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>because he should be very strong going into the championship

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<v Speaker 1>match against the Swerve Hangman or the Hangman and Osprey

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<v Speaker 1>winner at the pay per view. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he should get the win in that match,

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<v Speaker 1>and then whoever ends up winning, that's your big match

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>coming up at all in So, that was dynamite. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a very good go home show, and

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>then tonight we have got the Collision Show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was told in terms of like wrestling, good show, but

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like they did a whole bunch of angles.

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<v Speaker 1>The big heavy angle show for the pay per view

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was Dynamite, So we've got Commander and Speedball versus Rush

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and Realistico. Mercedes Monet defends the TBS title against Reyna Isis.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea why this is a championship match.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had the video package, that's all great

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and good, but this is another one of those. They've

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<v Speaker 1>done this before too. It's like Mercedes has a big

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>match coming up at the pay per view, why is

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>she in a random title match on the Collision before

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the pay per view. I think it's ridiculous, but that's

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>what they did. FTR and Daniel Garcia and Nigel McGinnis

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>will do the contract signing. Kyle Fletcher versus Jay Lethal.

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>The Paragon will face the Grizzled Young Vets. They've built

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that up for several weeks. Josh Alexander faces aar Fox,

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>the much maligned ar Fox, Mistico Templorio and Mascriderada versus

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<v Speaker 1>Volador Junior Magnus and Ruhido, which sounds awesome, and Takeushta

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and rapung Device versus Bandido and the Outrunners, and it

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was essentially told good wrestling. You know, you can probably

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<v Speaker 1>figure out the finishes to nearly all the matches even

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>without and I don't know the finishes, guys, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no spoilers for you. But that's uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Collision tonight. And also tonight is Impact with Joe Here

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and Elijah versus Moose and Brian Myers, AJ Francis and

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Navarro versus Santana and Sammy Callahan mister Stone and

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Santino will have an inn ring debate, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of all le versus Ace Austin back in

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<v Speaker 1>Vinnie Pacifico is joining us here today. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about, Vinnie. What's going on? Brian?

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<v Speaker 11>How are you? Thank you for having me?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. How are you feeling after Well? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably been a few weekends. But saw a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weekends ago. So os we partied in Seattle, didn't we?

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<v Speaker 11>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about partying but we hung out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. How was the show? What'd you think?

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<v Speaker 11>I loved it. I always loved wrestling out west on

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 11>the West Coast, especially the SITH Northwest because honestly some

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 11>of the best talent, best locker rooms that I've ever

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<v Speaker 11>been in, So I always enjoyed going out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is such a change from back in

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, all of these great promotions and shows and

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<v Speaker 1>locker rooms. I mean, how often do you get out

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<v Speaker 1>to SOS So It.

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<v Speaker 11>Used to be a lot more often. I would get

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 11>a lot of loops out there, but this year it

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 11>hasn't been as much as I like because I just

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 11>have a lot going on with movies, TV stuff like that.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm kind of like struggling a lot of different things

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 11>at once. But I try to get out to the

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 11>West Coast whenever I can, really because I love it

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 11>out there. I really actually enjoyed my time this there,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 11>this week, I mean last week, because the crowds were

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 11>just erupting singing my entrance songs. That's up than that,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 11>you know, the feeling you can't be that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a hot crowd phenomenal now, you you know.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised. This is actually the first time we

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>ever met in person at that show, and I don't know,

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about it, but I was surprised to

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 1>learn you're only twenty five. Yeah, God, you're like a child.

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>You were born in the year two thousand.

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<v Speaker 11>No twenty six, men in twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're about turn twenty six.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, so you're born yeah April thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you were born in the nineties. Yeah, that's

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>not so bad. There's a very tail end. But well,

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you, you know, you're very young

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh, but you're already kind of moving into uh

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at way movies and television slots. I mean, is

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>are you looking at like? Man? You know, how long

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>can I do this at twenty six? Or what are

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you thinking?

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<v Speaker 11>So for me, it's just I believe make the most

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 11>of every opportunity given right, and I love wrestling. I

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 11>will never stop wrestling until my body tells me stop.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 11>But I think, why not venture out into other things

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 11>and become more valuable in wrestling? Right? I think so

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 11>many wrestlers that you could your name went to Hollywood,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 11>went to acting, and they became biggert. So I feel

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 11>as if why not do the same, why not try

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 11>and grow in other ways? And so I have been

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 11>very lucky. I've gotten to do a few movies already

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 11>and a TVs here is that's coming up very soon.

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 11>And it's been really rewarding, you know, getting to learn

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 11>different things, be in different places, meet different people, and

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 11>just become more well rounded. And I believe it will

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 11>help me in the long one in parrestling, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Around your age, I also was kind of interested in

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>doing some acting. And what I did was like around here,

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>we got the Seattle Film Institute, and there's a lot

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of stuff that film's around here, and I just started

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>going all of these different auditions, and you know, I

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>got some little things here and there, some commercials and

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<v Speaker 1>some student films, and then you kind of put a

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>resume together and then you go to auditions. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what you did?

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 11>Pretty much? Know, someone from of my family kind of

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 11>had a spot open for the first time on a

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 11>movie called Frequency of Miracles, and uh, but me for it.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 11>I did it. I made tons of connections at that

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 11>screen at that doming and it turned into another film.

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 11>Actually I just filmed last Wednesday. I can't get into

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 11>much detail about it, but it's gonna be a really

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 11>really awesome movie. Uh peep up. The cast is insane

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 11>and yeah, so it just a lot of things steamroll

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 11>when you when you make one thing happen, more and

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 11>more things happen, and when you make yourself available for

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 11>these things to happen, it really can take off. So yeah,

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:35.919
<v Speaker 11>kind of just I'm kind of going with the flow,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 11>wrestling every single week and then taking whatever comes. But

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 11>I feel as if I'm enjoying getting more and more

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 11>opportunities and being more and more busy because why not.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, how does it work in terms of let's say

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you get some role and you're gonna you're gonna do

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 1>something for a film, and you know how normally works

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>is they they film everything and then you know, once

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>everything is wrapped, sometimes they'll need you again for okay,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>well we need to redo this thing here, or we

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>need to you know, you got a voice over something

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>here or whatever. Has Has this ever gotten in the

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>way of a wrestling booking?

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 11>No, so luckily they've been very lenient. Or to be honest,

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 11>every time that I've been needed something's always a weekday,

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 11>I believe, or weekend I'm not even wrestling, so it's

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 11>pretty It's been pretty good. I haven't acually had to

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 11>pull off honey rows before of it. So I filmed

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 11>this upcoming wrestling TV theory is called Mister Reset, and

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 11>I've had to go back and film a few things

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 11>over and over again. But they're very lenient. They know

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 11>wrestling the weekend, so they kind of booked everything during

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 11>the week which is awesome and I'd love it to

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 11>do that for us.

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>What have you learned from your time doing acting and

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>television and film and such that you have brought to wrestling.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 11>Wow, it's a great question. Uh, pretty much. Ways to

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 11>deal with pressure, because being on a camera is just

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 11>I've done it for so many years wrestling, and I

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 11>feel as if it's it's very similar in some ways.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 11>You know, wrestling is kind of no retries, No you

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 11>have one take, so but I would tell you the

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 11>way I deal with pressure in the way that the

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 11>pressure is applied is different. But I guess it's good

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 11>practice to be mentally under pressure so that I just

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 11>been able to adapt to these things, you know what

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 11>I'm saying, or able to be in the situations so

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 11>that I can learn and be malleable for any type

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 11>of situation I'm going to be in.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So the flip side, it's a mental thing. And the

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>flip side is what have you taken from wrestling and

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>that you have applied to your versioning film career a lot.

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 11>So I've I'm very good to improv. So I'm from

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 11>wrestling of course, all these years promos or on the cuffs,

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 11>you know, in ring promos or backstage interviews, and I

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 11>view that and it's got me got me pretty good,

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 11>so success so far. So I would say wrestling has

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 11>given me such a tremendous uh skill at being able

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 11>to improv and being able to work under pressure and

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 11>be able to just take a step back and perform

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 11>my best. And you know, it's amazing how how wrestling

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 11>has taught me that and gotten me to where I

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 11>am now.

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>So obviously, when when you are a wrestler who then

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>transitions to TV or film, I mean there's there's various

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>characters that you can play. And obviously, if your character

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>in a movie or film is a big, bombastic, you know,

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>pro wrestling style character, well it's easy to just be

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a pro wrestler. But if your if your role is

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to be more of a normal person, not a big,

0:38:58.640 --> 0:38:59.720
<v Speaker 1>bombastic character.

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It's actually very different from wrestling because in wrestling you

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be big, and you don't necessarily want to

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>be that big when you're playing a role for film.

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 11>Interesting, Okay, I mean I have not played anything that

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 11>outlandish yet, but I'm looking forward to learning, you know

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 11>what I mean. I actually I'm in talk to some

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 11>films in South America. It's fun yesterday, you know. So

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 11>I don't know what to respect, but I'm obviously gonna

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 11>give to get my all, of course, with everything that

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 11>I'm given. But the TV series Mister Reset, I'm playing

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 11>myself Viny Power punch s Pacifico. So it's kind of easy, yeah,

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 11>to do that because it's my wrestling character. But a

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 11>lot of the other films that I've done have been

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 11>very an interview based for the most part also, so

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 11>it's kinds of just me peeling back, you know, the

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 11>curtain a little bit of my life and just talking

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 11>about getting Bully going off and just being somebody who

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 11>wants to inspire. And so I would say that like

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 11>it's film, I hadn't really had to act.

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>For those couple of movies I just did, sure.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 11>But it's actually expanded me to mental health and uh like, So,

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 11>for example, does a TV show coming out very soon

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 11>called Men Speaking? Is that it's at the roundtable. Four

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 11>people sit in a chair and talk about mental health,

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 11>self love, dealing with life's hardest obstacles. And I got

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 11>chance for it. So one thing leads to the other,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 11>leads to the other, leads to the other. So and

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 11>they all see each other and they're all positive things.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 11>So I'm very, very grateful for all these things.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So did you have you had issues in your life

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>with mental health or or what was your role in this?

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 11>Yeah? So growing up, you know, I got bullied in

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 11>school for like and wrestling, you know, and it really

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 11>wasn't fun. I've always told you can't. You don't deserve this,

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 11>you don't deserve that. Like I was like playing football

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 11>and I got terrible bully just for wearing a John

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 11>sena shirt, even with the un football team as the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>So I had to do a lot of bullying going up,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 11>and self esteem issues and kinds of I never really

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 11>thought of my had self love, right, but I through

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 11>my marriage and through finding my wife, I've developed self

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<v Speaker 11>love through her, which is amazing. She's helped me learn

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<v Speaker 11>to love myself and now I try to just you know,

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<v Speaker 11>express self love and try to you know, inspire people

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<v Speaker 11>to learn to love themselves and to believe in themselves

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<v Speaker 11>and take a step forward and take a chance on

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<v Speaker 11>themselves to believe that they could do anything they want

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<v Speaker 11>to do. And that's kind of been my really, my

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 11>my thing is like I want people to be able

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<v Speaker 11>to love themselves enough to believe in themselves to do

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 11>the thing that they're scared to do. But hey, if

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 11>they want to. Like, for example, there are people who

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 11>want to wrestle but don't don't They don't believe they

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 11>could do it. They don't think they they don't think

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 11>they have whatever it takes to do it. I think,

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 11>screw that. Love yourself enough and believe yourself enough to

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<v Speaker 11>do it and try to try the goals that you

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 11>have in life because you only live once.

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<v Speaker 1>So so essentially this is this is very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>work into a babyface character.

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<v Speaker 11>I guess. So, I mean that's true, yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 11>all legit. You know, I've dealt with this the whole life,

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 11>and you know, I've had to look in the mirror

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 11>and learn to love who I am. And and I'm

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<v Speaker 11>very grateful that I have an amazing woman by my

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<v Speaker 11>side who teaches me that and taught me how to

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<v Speaker 11>love myself. So I try and always in buy other

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 11>people to take those steps forward, to create self love

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 11>and to work on themselves because you live in your mind.

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<v Speaker 11>You live in your mind, and no one else knows

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 11>what you're going through. So I just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>you have to take care of mental health first.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>make light of mental health or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>this this very much reminds me of John Cena, where

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he was a babyface. It was always never give up,

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and if you go on on his Twitter social media,

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like every day he had some new motivational quote and yeah,

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and so then he turned heel. Okay, And when he

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>turned heel, I had all of these great ideas, like

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>this guy needs to do his motivational quotes, but they

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>should be like just quit or don't get out of

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.439
<v Speaker 1>bed today. I thought there were like all these things

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that he could do to like make this character like,

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, play off the anti John Cena, But instead

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>he just did the same John Cene. He's just a

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.919
<v Speaker 1>bad guy now yelling at people. So have you ever

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>have you ever played the heel role. I've only seen

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you doing babyface stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, I've played the heel role plenty of times. I

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 11>love being a heel because it's literally me, like at

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 11>the opposite of me. You know, I'm an annoying version

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 11>of myself. I'm more dislikable. And yeah, I love playing Neil,

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 11>but I've often a face. But when I get to

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 11>be a heel, I really sit back and I enjoy it,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 11>you know, because these fans get really rowdy and they

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 11>give the middle finger and they curse at you, and

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 11>it's it's really cool to have different tyes, of different

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 11>sides of the coin. You know, when they come out

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 11>and they love you, and then you know, you go

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 11>to a different town, you come out and they just

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 11>get in your face, give you your real finger, tell

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 11>you to goes through yourself. You know, it's fun.

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So so do you make do you make the call? Like,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>let's say you're going to a town you've never been

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to before, do you make the call going in or

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>are you? Are you and your opponents sort of like,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever, However, they react to me like that's

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 1>the way we're going here.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 11>Usually I'm brought into baby face for the most most part.

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 11>You know, even in Europe, I was brought in a

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 11>baby's face. But if I get told otherwise, they want

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 11>me to be a heel. They want me to they

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 11>want to challenge me and say, oh, Vinny, you know,

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 11>I want to see a deal. Can I have no

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:43.760
<v Speaker 11>problem doing it. And it's literally just the same character,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 11>just switch to a different uh detective. You know. So

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 11>it's like, as opposed to me drinking and edgy drink

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 11>poking up, how about drink anergy drink and spew it

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 11>into your opponent's face, in your eyes and they can't see.

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 11>And then that could combined.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 11>So it's kind of two sides of the you know

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 11>coin where it's like, you know, come out energize. I'm

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 11>not ready to go. I could still be energized as

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 11>a bad guy, but I just do it in a

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 11>really more annoying way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well hold that thought back in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simpervv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back of the show, Brain Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Vinnie Pacifico is joining us here today. I love saying

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that name, and Vinnie, what do you got? Coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot?

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<v Speaker 11>A lot so in private screening fore of my films

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<v Speaker 11>on this Monday, this Sunday, I wrestle in Connecticut for

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 11>for Wrestling, Magic and Taiju. I will be heading to

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 11>Florida very shortly in the next couple of weeks to

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 11>do CCW in Kissing Me and CCW in Port Saint

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 11>Lucy in Game of War, their biggest OH of the year.

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 11>And a lot going on. You know, I got some

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 11>West Coast. I got March thirty first, I come back

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 11>to Seattle or not Northwest Pro March or May for

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 11>the title?

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>What's up May thirty first?

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<v Speaker 11>Yep? May thirty first?

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, you said March? All right, May thirty first?

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<v Speaker 10>Maybe?

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 11>Oh right, my bed May thirty first. So yeah, a

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 11>lot going on. I'm very grateful for everything, and I

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 11>just I'm ready for it.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 9>All.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we got ten seconds here. What's your favorite state

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<v Speaker 1>to wrestle in?

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 9>Wow?

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<v Speaker 11>Favorite states of wrestling? I will have to say.

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Oregon really Oregon.

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Oregon or Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would not have expected that. Nothing against Oregon

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>or anything. It's beautiful, but uh man, you got the

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>whole country here. You got lots of sun over there

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>on the east coast Florida.

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<v Speaker 11>So interesting, No, I know, but I do love. I

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 11>do love the crowds, and I'm northwest Northwest. They've been

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 11>amazing to me for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to thank you so much for doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. Best of lug where everything. We'll do

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>this again soon. Maybe I'll try and head out May

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<v Speaker 1>thirty first if I can, and and all the best,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck with everything.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 11>He remember, friend appreciates you, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course thanks everybody for listening. We're out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll talk to you on Friday. Wrestling Observer Live.

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