Speaker 1: John Madden so legendary. They already have a movie coming
Speaker 1: out about John Madden. You got Nicholas Cage playing Madden,
Speaker 1: and I've seen some pictures of him. He kind of
Speaker 1: looks exactly like Madden. What do they do? Fill them
Speaker 1: up with pillows? I mean, when I might just fill
Speaker 1: myself self up with pillows, I'd be uh in one corner,
Speaker 1: my brother would be in the other corner, and we
Speaker 1: call it zooms, and you just get as big as
Speaker 1: you possibly can and stuff as many pillows as you can,
Speaker 1: and you would run full speed at each other.
Speaker 2: Let me explain something to some people out there. For
Speaker 2: all you people that think like, oh, I got a
Speaker 2: baby Gronk in my house, look at this kids. His
Speaker 2: form of entertainment was running full speed into a wall
Speaker 2: with pillows.
Speaker 1: Okay, into another person, not a wall built different into
Speaker 1: another wall, into another person.
Speaker 2: The form of entertainment was playing hockey downstairs and running
Speaker 2: into each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, back to man. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gronkowski, and this.
Speaker 2: Is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk
Speaker 2: about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 1: And today we're talking about a couple of folk heroes
Speaker 1: from the world of football. What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1: The legend of Mike Alstott.
Speaker 2: He is the perfect four minute back.
Speaker 1: He could play an Anie era Anie era.
Speaker 2: What made John Madden such a great broadcaster? I mean,
Speaker 2: John Madden's at the standard. His name is synonymous with football.
Speaker 1: And also what it's like to be on the cover
Speaker 1: of Madden. You're looking at your boy, you know, to
Speaker 1: be recognized like that, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: An honor EA sports, It's in the game. And then
Speaker 2: we wrap it up by reacting to some of the
Speaker 2: hottest takes in this week's Chillis Dude of the Week,
Speaker 2: presented by cors like stick around to the very very end.
Speaker 1: Let's Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: We're here in Boston, Ron Dudes on Dudes Back in Boston.
Speaker 2: We are back in Boston. And every time we come
Speaker 2: back to Boston does it not feel like home?
Speaker 1: It feels like home every single time, especially when you
Speaker 1: know the flowers are blossoming, the sun is out, it's
Speaker 1: sixty five degrees, it's a beautiful spring day. You know,
Speaker 1: you see just people happy walking the streets. I feel
Speaker 1: like I belong you know that. And that's the best feeling,
Speaker 1: you know, That's when you know it's a home. Is
Speaker 1: when you feel like you just belong here, and we
Speaker 1: both belong here in the city of Boston. It will
Speaker 1: be of home forever, Jules. And it's Memorial Day weekend
Speaker 1: as well. What does that mean? We want to recognize
Speaker 1: how come you wait? First off?
Speaker 2: Explain why you know what this means?
Speaker 1: Yes, I know what Memorial Day weekend is. Because Bill,
Speaker 1: every single time a holiday comes up, he explains what
Speaker 1: the holiday means and what it represents, especially if it
Speaker 1: has something to do with the military. So every single
Speaker 1: time Bill would call up the team meeting we would
Speaker 1: usually have off Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday, which everyone loves.
Speaker 1: You have a four day weekend off of OTA's shut
Speaker 1: up and Bill would bring you, you know, bring you
Speaker 1: up in the team meeting, bring the team together in
Speaker 1: the meeting, the final team meeting of the day on
Speaker 1: Thursday before he lets everyone go for the whole you know,
Speaker 1: four day weekend, and he would explain what Memorial Day
Speaker 1: Weekend is and what it represents, remembering all of the
Speaker 1: veterans that have fallen and sacrificed their lives for our
Speaker 1: country so we can have the freedom that we have
Speaker 1: to this day. And that's what we want to do
Speaker 1: right now before we get started, is recognized and give
Speaker 1: tribute to all the fallen soldiers out there that have paid,
Speaker 1: you know, their duties and did the ultimate sacrifice for
Speaker 1: our families, our country, for their families, for our friends,
Speaker 1: and putting it all on the line. So we thank them,
Speaker 1: We thank their families, and let's give them a quick,
Speaker 1: you know, five seconds of moment of silence right now, Juliah,
Speaker 1: there we go. That was I was touching Rob. I
Speaker 1: was touching some coach Belichuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But we're also a big military podcast. You do a
Speaker 2: lot of have you visited you? Where have you gone?
Speaker 2: You've gone some crazy places.
Speaker 1: Last year, I did like a us O trip, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't technically a true us O trip. I did
Speaker 1: it with Monster because Monster did so many us O trips.
Speaker 1: They always combined, but they kind of separated a little bit.
Speaker 1: So Monster just went off on their own and brought
Speaker 1: me to Poland last year and I visited four different
Speaker 1: military bases United States military bases, and it's just so
Speaker 1: cool and so touching because the people there get excited.
Speaker 1: You know, the troops there get excited because they do
Speaker 1: the same thing every single day. They grind, they you know,
Speaker 1: shoot their tanks. You know, they're replicating, you know, a
Speaker 1: mission and it's kind of the same thing on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. So I got to show up, you know it.
Speaker 1: You know, got to switch up their routine. You know,
Speaker 1: got to meet me. They got to show me all
Speaker 1: the tanks that they get to shoot. I got to
Speaker 1: shoot some tanks, shoot some guns. And it's rewarding to them.
Speaker 1: It's rewarding to me as well. Uh. And it puts
Speaker 1: a smile on their face, which is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And it gets their mind off of what's going on
Speaker 1: on a daily basis with all the war that's going
Speaker 1: on over there, you know, overseas and what they're preparing for.
Speaker 1: So uh, whenever I have a chance, I get to
Speaker 1: you know, I love to do things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went.
Speaker 2: I went out and visited the USS George Washington, uh
Speaker 2: and stayed a night over in Brazil when they were
Speaker 2: on a mission going around the whole continent South America
Speaker 2: while they were on their way up to I can't
Speaker 2: give disclosed locations because you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: piss off Cap. You know he's from Alabama, big Bama
Speaker 2: road Tide guy.
Speaker 1: Cap. I won't say, but it was the captain of
Speaker 1: the ship. Oh okay, captain, Captain, Okay, I gotcha. I capture.
Speaker 2: But I will say, like you said it, it's it
Speaker 2: gives you a perspective when you go into their day
Speaker 2: to day life. We stayed and we visited every part
Speaker 2: of the ship. You know, we fit the fire department,
Speaker 2: we visited the mechanics, We visited the guys that are
Speaker 2: the pilots, the people that got the food ready. Like
Speaker 2: it's a whole community. There's like four thousand people on
Speaker 2: this big ass ship, and the craziest thing to me
Speaker 2: is that the average age was like nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: These are young people that are essentially joining the military
Speaker 2: to allow us to do what we get to do,
Speaker 2: and that's talk stupid shit on this stupid camera in
Speaker 2: this dumb microphone.
Speaker 1: So like, it's because of those people.
Speaker 2: That fight for our freedom, that sacrifice their freedom so
Speaker 2: they can go out and fight for ours. That's class act.
Speaker 2: My grandpa served in the Navy. You have some family
Speaker 2: that served so you know, big military podcast, shout out
Speaker 2: to all the fallen soldiers.
Speaker 1: That's what Memorial Days for.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of the kickoff to summer, you know,
Speaker 2: the Memorial Day is the kickoff to summer. Not summer
Speaker 2: quite yet June twenty first, but it is kick off
Speaker 2: two summer.
Speaker 1: And it's also like when you expect a weather to
Speaker 1: be above seventy degrees every single day, and if it's not, say,
Speaker 1: if it's like fifty and rainy here in the New
Speaker 1: England area, you get pissed. Now, it's fine that it's
Speaker 1: cold like in April beginning of May, but once Memorial
Speaker 1: Day hits and that weather drops, you get angry. It
Speaker 1: needs to be seventy plus every day now. And Sonny,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, it just feels better. It
Speaker 1: feels better. It just pops up here when it's sunny,
Speaker 1: because it's not sunny for about eight months around here,
Speaker 1: seven months. And when it is who it feels like
Speaker 1: Florida during spring break. It does. It does. That's why
Speaker 1: I love it up here at this time.
Speaker 2: So, Robbie, you were I watched on TV on Fox
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis five hundred, one of the you know, our
Speaker 2: favorite race events right in Indianapolis. I think three million people
Speaker 2: go to that thing. It's like the biggest sporting event
Speaker 2: in the United States of America, which people don't really
Speaker 2: realize if you're not a race guy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's actually the biggest sporting event in the whole
Speaker 1: in tell your world, for one given day, there has
Speaker 1: never been a sporting event besides the Indy five hundred
Speaker 1: where there's over three hundred and fifty thousand spectators watching
Speaker 1: the race, and I would probably say over four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people just around because then you got everyone that
Speaker 1: go and tailgate, you know, and then they don't even
Speaker 1: have tickets. So it's the biggest spectacle out there in
Speaker 1: the sporting event world, and it's phenomenal. It was my
Speaker 1: first time there, for I'm telling you, it's amazing, Julian.
Speaker 1: Whenever you get a chance, you should go next year.
Speaker 1: And this year was the first time that Fox was
Speaker 1: airing the Indy five hundred, so I got to be
Speaker 1: a part of it because obviously I'm with Fox, so
Speaker 1: they put me up to some duties. I got to
Speaker 1: be the Grand Marshal the snake pit, and I had
Speaker 1: absolutely no clue what I was getting into. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to go, You're going to be part of
Speaker 1: the snake Pit. Then week a week later, it's news
Speaker 1: all over the place that I'm a Grand Marshal of
Speaker 1: the Snake Pit, and everyone's hitting me up. They're like, bro,
Speaker 1: do you understand what you're getting into. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like what's that festival and like the Woodstock, kind of
Speaker 1: like Woodstock, but it's in the middle of the lawn,
Speaker 1: you know, in between you know, in you know, inside
Speaker 1: the racetrack, and there's gonna be over thirty thousand people
Speaker 1: there just going absolute bonkers. And that's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Fox put me in a
Speaker 1: situation for me to thrive and succeed, and I sure did, baby,
Speaker 1: I sure.
Speaker 2: You know that's that's that's good leadership by Fox. I
Speaker 2: mean I I saw the coverage. You were there, I
Speaker 2: saw Jeter was there, I saw was there. It was
Speaker 2: Big Poppy there.
Speaker 1: No, Big Poppy was yes, Tom Tom, Tom was there.
Speaker 1: So Fox assigned us all to different duties, and clearly
Speaker 1: me being me, they signed me to the Grand Marshal
Speaker 1: of the snake Pit, which made so much sense without
Speaker 1: the hell yeah, and then you had Strahan there sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy can break down any situation at
Speaker 1: any given time, whatever it is, So they probably had
Speaker 1: him doing everything, breaking down the race because his knowledge
Speaker 1: of every race race, he can break down any situation.
Speaker 1: You can go from.
Speaker 2: Pop singer to scandal to NASCAR to INDYE to football
Speaker 2: to uh bts like this guy knows how.
Speaker 1: Interviewing Bill Belichick interviewing Bill at his hottest moment last week.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can do it all. That's our guy.
Speaker 1: So not sure what his real duties were because I
Speaker 1: was busy being the grand marsh of the snakefit. When
Speaker 1: you're when you're doing that jewels, you don't really know
Speaker 1: what else is going on. Uh. But Tom was there
Speaker 1: as well. I think he did a hot lap before
Speaker 1: the race.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Not sure what Jeter's duties were, but I heard him
Speaker 1: get announced. He got a big round of applause. A
Speaker 1: Rod was there as well. I'm sure they were on
Speaker 1: TV breaking down some of the races and all that,
Speaker 1: you know, talking to some of the drivers while I
Speaker 1: was doing my duties at the snake pit. Once again,
Speaker 1: I can't stop talking about it. You know, I was
Speaker 1: raging with the DJs getting the crowd hyped. I was
Speaker 1: in the microphone thirty thousand people, ladies and gentlemen, and
Speaker 1: welcome through this snake bit.
Speaker 2: Everyone just erupted. It was it was so everyone was erupting.
Speaker 2: What did they do in Tom's name?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 1: I heard they boot him? They boot him, they boot them,
Speaker 1: which is rude.
Speaker 2: Which is rude, but it's it's honestly predictable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, understand, I understand that.
Speaker 2: PLI they couldn't beat him for freaking thirty years.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, that was one of my points I made
Speaker 1: when I was, you know, live in the snake pit.
Speaker 1: I said, I feel like I'm at home right now
Speaker 1: because I've owned the Colts my whole entire career when
Speaker 1: I was on the Patriots, and when you own a
Speaker 1: team for so long, you feel like you're at home
Speaker 1: when you're in this city. And I hit them with that.
Speaker 1: But then I evened it out because I was like, well,
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks beat my Boston Ceth Dicks, and
Speaker 1: the Pacers are playing the New York Knicks right now,
Speaker 1: so go Pacers. So even it out so they like
Speaker 1: me again. I'm a genius.
Speaker 2: That's crowd work. That's how to work a fucking crowd
Speaker 2: right there. And you know, Robbie Gs, No, do you
Speaker 2: remember we went to the Super Bowl and what was
Speaker 2: it eleven?
Speaker 1: We were?
Speaker 2: We played in Indye, didn't we have? We had like
Speaker 2: a family event at the Indianapolis five hundred which was fun.
Speaker 2: That was like our only taste of the Indie five hundred.
Speaker 2: Awesome that you got to go.
Speaker 1: Talking about myself what I did over the week and
Speaker 1: I saw that you were at Patrick Mahomes golf event. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: what what's the charity name? Fifteen for Mahomes the home Mahomies, Mahomies,
Speaker 1: fifteen for Mahomies, Mahomies. Yes, that's really that's a pretty
Speaker 1: cool name, that is. It's clever. Mahomies. I love, you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to some people sometimes and they're like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Instead of saying Mahomes, they
Speaker 1: say Mahomies. I've heard that before and I just started
Speaker 1: to laugh. I think it's really good. It's really clever,
Speaker 1: and he should like amp up that nickname a little
Speaker 1: bit more. He should take it in. Mahomies is just great,
Speaker 1: you know, it really is. So how was that golf event?
Speaker 1: Dual spill the beans? Who was there? Who did you
Speaker 1: golf with? I heard Dola was there as well. What
Speaker 1: was Dola doing there? I know he's a golfer as well.
Speaker 1: I know like he belongs there, but I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: was he doing there? Was he having a good time?
Speaker 1: Spill all the beans? Jewels?
Speaker 2: It was his standard event? Uh saw Kelsey, trav was there,
Speaker 2: he made an appearance. Patrick was there, clearly. I saw
Speaker 2: mister Mahomes tapped him up. I said, hey, man, I'm
Speaker 2: with you over there. I saw the fight against Crook
Speaker 2: or whatever that one dude in Brocker and then, uh, I.
Speaker 1: Wanted to see that fight go down. I wanted. I
Speaker 1: think he made too.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well we listened not to get into that,
Speaker 2: but also, uh, Dola, he you know, Dola was just
Speaker 2: dolaing around a Q.
Speaker 1: Shipley was there or he's awesome Shipley Man. I played
Speaker 1: with him for a year or two and Tampa.
Speaker 2: We found out, like I never really met him, but
Speaker 2: I watched him on the McAfee show, and I love
Speaker 2: his segments where they were always breaking down the offensive
Speaker 2: line play and ship and it was cool to connect
Speaker 2: with him. He's who I talked to probably the most.
Speaker 2: H we have the same birthday, born the same year,
Speaker 2: same birthday, so pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday month to you, Juels to myself and
Speaker 1: a q Shipley baby.
Speaker 2: A q Shipley, awesome dude, there, you know there was
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of dudes. There is standard golf event,
Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of people with a lot of money,
Speaker 2: uh paid a play golf and it was a scramble
Speaker 2: Shadow Creek in Vegas, spectacular course. Like everyone keeps on
Speaker 2: always saying Augusto. I don't know, I heard that like
Speaker 2: a million times, like, hey, this isn't this remind you
Speaker 2: kind of Augusta? I Like, I'm not that smart, but
Speaker 2: I heard it like five times. People they were what
Speaker 2: is it called comparing They were that's a hard word.
Speaker 2: They were comparing to Augusta. But uh, nothing like you know,
Speaker 2: it was fun and it was for a great cause.
Speaker 2: Fifteenth fifteen in Mahomies. I think he helps a bunch
Speaker 2: of kids that you know, mentoring and sports need, sports equipment.
Speaker 2: Very awesome thing. And I know they raised a bunch
Speaker 2: of money. Always great to see that. Let's shift over
Speaker 2: to what.
Speaker 1: Did you golf with? First?
Speaker 2: Who was in your court show with I golfed with
Speaker 2: this these oil traders.
Speaker 1: You know money, you know, they all got all them
Speaker 1: Texas guys.
Speaker 2: You know they're talking about that oil. I had no clue.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I'm a California tech guy. They said, yeah, buddy,
Speaker 2: you got to get into that liquid gold. I said,
Speaker 2: what's the liquid gold? They said that oil.
Speaker 1: I think oil is more than liquid gold. It's probably
Speaker 1: liquid with liquid platinum. Yeah, there we go. Now we gotten.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they were cool dudes. One of them was
Speaker 2: from New Hampshire. They were all lived in Texas and
Speaker 2: they were all oil traders. It was a cool event, great.
Speaker 1: Food, well talking about you know, the golfing and and
Speaker 1: the oil guys and being from Texas. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite shows right now is Lamb Man with Billy Bob
Speaker 1: thorin Funny was he there? Did you get the golf
Speaker 1: any chance?
Speaker 2: Dang it?
Speaker 1: You know he loves Billy Bob Thorn. I love of
Speaker 1: his wife as well, while his ex wife and Lamb
Speaker 1: Man as well.
Speaker 2: You know that's the same chick from Varsity Blues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one that put the whipped cream all over
Speaker 1: that's like school as a bikini. Who doesn't know that.
Speaker 2: Well, if Billy Bob was there, I would have been
Speaker 2: infatuated to see what he would have been wearing, because
Speaker 2: I've seen this guy doing the press tours. You see
Speaker 2: he looks like Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbeane.
Speaker 2: Ive seen him with some hats and scarfs and shit,
Speaker 2: and he plays like these like po dunk dudes. But
Speaker 2: then he comes out when.
Speaker 1: He does all this media and he's like super.
Speaker 2: Creative and like fucking pirate e and shit, like let's
Speaker 2: see look at this Billy Thorn was I love, he's
Speaker 2: fucking Jack Sparrow. He got a done with the hat
Speaker 2: and all this shit. Dude, he but you gotta be
Speaker 2: a cool dude to be dressing like that, and he's
Speaker 2: a cool motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And to be able to just change character like that
Speaker 1: at all times, like the character that he as a
Speaker 1: landman does not represent him at all the way that
Speaker 1: he is dressed there. That's when you wrong you are
Speaker 1: a legit actor as well, when you're the best of
Speaker 1: the best out there is when you can just be
Speaker 1: one guy one day than just another guy another day.
Speaker 2: Before we get into our guys, we also, should you know,
Speaker 2: give a shout out to Jim Rsay. You know, he
Speaker 2: was a I think he was one of the longest
Speaker 2: standing owners for the league. Took it over from his
Speaker 2: dad when his dad passed. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of beef between our organizations, but you know we respect
Speaker 2: the hell out of Yes, you know, the Colts and
Speaker 2: and mister Ersay. He did a lot for this this league.
Speaker 2: I remember him always being heavily involved in you know,
Speaker 2: lockout stuff, and whenever you hear a cult player talk
Speaker 2: about Jim irsay, with whatever craziness you love, it's all love.
Speaker 2: I mean McAfee went like an hour two hours of
Speaker 2: his show just telling stories. That's how big of an
Speaker 2: impact he had on a McAfee. I mean, he just
Speaker 2: seemed like a guy that people loved. The guitar collection,
Speaker 2: he had a bunch of talents, weightlifter. So shout out
Speaker 2: to Jim mersaying, you know, we lost one and he
Speaker 2: was a big, key pivotal guy for our league into
Speaker 2: where it's going.
Speaker 1: So estressing peace Jim RP for everything that you have
Speaker 1: done for the NFL. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Should we get into some dudes, yes we shall, all right, Well,
Speaker 2: let's give us the AI summary. All right, our first dude.
Speaker 1: Standing six foot one inch tall, weighing two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty eight pounds, this bruising fullback was selected thirty fifth
Speaker 1: overall in the second round of the nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. He grew up in Jodiette, Illinois, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: starred at Purdue University. In the NFL. He was known
Speaker 1: for his punishing runnings and versatility. He earned six Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl selections, a Super Bowl ring, and remains the all
Speaker 1: time touchdown leader in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history. Let's get
Speaker 1: on Mike all Stop, Oh my god, and Jules, what's
Speaker 1: the first thing that you think of when you hear
Speaker 1: the name Mike all Stop? For me? For me though,
Speaker 1: real quick before you like, I believe that he was
Speaker 1: bigger than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization. He was the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization at that time, you know, that
Speaker 1: era when I was growing up and watching him, and
Speaker 1: that's what you know. The first thing that comes to
Speaker 1: my memory is that he's a Tampa Bay buccaneer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, first of you for me, neck roll, first thing,
Speaker 2: I like that, and then freaking boomer just going.
Speaker 1: Remember on all his highlights ego like this gid.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a bruiser, and I just remember like
Speaker 2: he started I as his full back and then he
Speaker 2: was getting tailback touches and he was producing crazy amounts
Speaker 2: of yards. If you like the most north and south
Speaker 2: guy you can ever think of, and if you were
Speaker 2: a white guy that was a lineman, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, White linemen that were like in high school.
Speaker 2: I just always remember that they loved Mike Alstock because
Speaker 2: he was like the epiphany that maybe this is what
Speaker 2: it would look like if I got the ball, and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he gave so much hope
Speaker 2: to every freaking little white lineman that was like six
Speaker 2: foot two point forty in high school that played fucking
Speaker 2: guard center or anything, like, you know what, if I
Speaker 2: hit a gross spurt, I could potentially be Mike alstot
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's the truth. Was he like a super superstar in college?
Speaker 1: I know only about him when he was on the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But did he actually like get handoffs
Speaker 1: in college or in as well, or did that start
Speaker 1: once you got in the second round? I know, because
Speaker 1: he was that beastly of a full back. Like what
Speaker 1: was his style in college as well? Like, what was
Speaker 1: his stats? All right, so he played a one hundred
Speaker 1: uh no, that's his NFL stats. What was his college stats?
Speaker 1: That got him drafted in the second round because being
Speaker 1: that beastly at the full back position, he at least
Speaker 1: had to show some skill set that he could still
Speaker 1: run the ball as well, you know, at that full
Speaker 1: back position.
Speaker 2: I mean he had three yards. He had three seasons
Speaker 2: over twelve hundred yards month.
Speaker 1: So that's why absolute savage in college as well. I
Speaker 1: never knew his.
Speaker 2: College feen touchdowns back to back over one thousand yards
Speaker 2: years his junior year and senior year, eight hundred yards
Speaker 2: his sophomore year, and as a freshman he had like
Speaker 2: two hundred yards. So that's what got him drafted in
Speaker 2: the second round as well, because he was showing the
Speaker 2: ability that he could run the ball as well. His
Speaker 2: rookie year he had sixty five catches. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was a great out of the backfield. He was great
Speaker 2: out of the Tom Rathman esque.
Speaker 1: Just overall, just a great back, including being a full
Speaker 1: and a running back. He's a back, yeah, He's just
Speaker 1: a back. He could play in any era.
Speaker 2: He could play it in the area. He could play
Speaker 2: right now. He'd be great.
Speaker 1: Right now, he would be It would bring back that
Speaker 1: old school mentality. Imagine him on the Baltimore Ravens right
Speaker 1: now with Lamar Jackson Henry what is the full back
Speaker 1: and then he also has the I have a bit
Speaker 1: handed off to him too. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Fullback? Ravens big boy. He's the old
Speaker 2: defensive lineman number. He's like two hundred ninety pounds. Recard, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Recards a fucking monster too.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He's but he gets a couple here and there in
Speaker 2: the little yeah waggles. Do you look at him just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get right into it. Do you look at
Speaker 2: him as the best fullback of all time? I think
Speaker 2: he's probably the best hybrid fullback of all time because
Speaker 2: you look at Neil uh that guy. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was the fullback for like four rushing champs. Uh you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Uh? So Mike ousatt sto best fullback of all time as.
Speaker 2: The running full back complete, I think he's the best
Speaker 2: running fullback of all time. Okay, and I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to downplay his blocking because war Done had some fucking
Speaker 2: yards with him as well. But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 2: Riggins was insane. There's a bunch of guys that the
Speaker 2: fullback position. What he did is he revolutionized the fullback position.
Speaker 2: It used to be the fullback usually used to just
Speaker 2: get a concussion every day because he had to hit
Speaker 2: a linebacker ten times in a row full speed, or
Speaker 2: the detackle on a wam or a you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, He's just getting concussions. He, as in Mike Alstott,
Speaker 2: literally revolutionized it. We're like, hey, maybe we should give
Speaker 2: this big ass dude the ball on a short yardage play.
Speaker 2: Started doing that, and then all of a sudden, he
Speaker 2: starts running for fucking fifty five yards, jumping over dude,
Speaker 2: blowing people up, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 2: hard to say he's the best of all time because
Speaker 2: the guys before I don't think they got the opportunity
Speaker 2: like him, which he earned that opportunity because he showed
Speaker 2: it in practice. He showed that he had the speed
Speaker 2: and everything to be able to do it. But he's
Speaker 2: definitely up there. He's the best running fullback of all time.
Speaker 1: I believe. M hm. We'll be right back after this
Speaker 1: quick break. What I love about Mike Allstudy is that
Speaker 1: he just represents a football player. Well, let me see,
Speaker 1: this guy was a football player. Like if you had
Speaker 1: to describe a football player, what a football player does,
Speaker 1: that's Mike Allstart, just the way he had no fear.
Speaker 1: And I don't envy these fullbacks. I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: right now. I love blocking Jewels, but I love blocking
Speaker 1: a guy that's, you know, his hands down right in
Speaker 1: front of me, right on the line of screams. I'm talking.
Speaker 1: These guys are tapped. Bro. I got two brothers that
Speaker 1: are full back. I know one play three years, the
Speaker 1: other one played about two years in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: the way that they just line up in the backfield
Speaker 1: run five yards at a linebacker that has a full
Speaker 1: head of steam running five yards as well and just
Speaker 1: has that big, huge collision. It's like a car crash
Speaker 1: on a daily ba. I don't envy that they're tapped
Speaker 1: to another level. They're special. It's wild that gene that
Speaker 1: they have that they want to do that. Like James Devlin,
Speaker 1: absolute savage as well. I just tried to call James.
Speaker 1: Probably need them pick up, James. We're trying to call you,
Speaker 1: trying to call him because he's a neck roll guy too.
Speaker 1: Neck roll.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what you think of when you think
Speaker 2: of fullback.
Speaker 1: Neck roll.
Speaker 2: Darryl Johnson don't forget him so well. People don't realize
Speaker 2: the fullback. Throughout the week Wednesday Thursday, which are the
Speaker 2: two hitting days, we have these nine on seven practice
Speaker 2: drills where it's like you're it's just run game inside
Speaker 2: run game. And I remember watching this and every freaking
Speaker 2: play it's just Dantae high Tower going full speed at
Speaker 2: James Devlin, head to head combat every single play. These
Speaker 2: dudes are fucking calcified. Their heads are that's what they do.
Speaker 2: They hit, they fucking their bricks. I wonder how he
Speaker 2: was in the weight room, because I bet you he
Speaker 2: was just a fucking like every fullback, they have dedicated
Speaker 2: weight room time. Well, you know, like whenever the fullback
Speaker 2: is in the weight room, it's like his weight room.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's like a box of smelling salts there.
Speaker 2: His knees are wrapped, the elbows are wrapped. And I'm
Speaker 2: just talking off of like James Devlin and the guys
Speaker 2: that I play with. But I can only imagine it's
Speaker 2: the same way everywhere. There's usually like a bottle of
Speaker 2: n explode right before, like right next to him, so
Speaker 2: they could take a shot every time they're about to
Speaker 2: hit the squats.
Speaker 1: Like that's what the fullback energy is. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy trained by pushing a car one hundred yards, that's
Speaker 1: full back energy as well.
Speaker 2: Right car though, uh jeep O there is I remember
Speaker 2: that energy.
Speaker 1: Jeep ain't easy. The push man. A jeep is an
Speaker 1: off roading machine. No like that thing, you know, it's
Speaker 1: technically a decent sized car. So that's kind of describes
Speaker 1: Mike Austin as well. He's like the off road jeep
Speaker 1: you know that could also you know, have some talent
Speaker 1: to maneuver on the highway and juke some dudes and
Speaker 1: all start was the guy like had the neck roll.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that looked like he could never duke
Speaker 1: a defender ever, like he's just gonna run over an opponent,
Speaker 1: which he did on a daily basis. But then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, out of nowhere, this guy had footwork
Speaker 1: that looked like a running back and he would juke
Speaker 1: a safety, a defensive back or a linebacker in the
Speaker 1: open field and go for an extra fifteen. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: where did that footwork come from? Like unbelievable that he
Speaker 1: had that in him. And that's what made him so
Speaker 1: great as a ball carrier as well. And then also
Speaker 1: what made him great too. I feel like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: had those jukes, but when he was running over guys
Speaker 1: and blocking guys, this guy kept his feet moving. And
Speaker 1: they always emphasized that great coaches, offensive line coaches, you know,
Speaker 1: tight end coaches, when you're in the blocking game, or
Speaker 1: when you're running at someone or trying to get when
Speaker 1: someone's trying to tackle, you keep your feet moving, keep
Speaker 1: the high knees going. And Mike Alstott was the perfect
Speaker 1: example of that. If you watch his highlight film, but Boom,
Speaker 1: his feet were always rolling. He never stopped him. And
Speaker 1: that's what makes you great. That momentum never stops and
Speaker 1: you just keep trucking over mofos. And that's what he did.
Speaker 1: You know what, and hold on, let me finish on
Speaker 1: michaelstar Qui. The greatest thing about him. If you want
Speaker 1: to get the chills, if you want to see what
Speaker 1: a true football player is, you want to get amped up,
Speaker 1: you watch one of the greatest highlight films of all time,
Speaker 1: and that's Mike Alstein.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It'll, it'll get the hair, It'll get the hair on
Speaker 1: the back lifted. Now.
Speaker 2: I just had a thought in my head if Mike
Speaker 2: Olstalt was a car. You know, he reminds me of
Speaker 2: He reminds me of the New Escalade with the Z
Speaker 2: six engine in it.
Speaker 1: Where that thing?
Speaker 2: Have you heard those fucking cars? It's the Corvette engine
Speaker 2: in the Escalade. So it's got giddy up, but it's
Speaker 2: a big fucking piece of mass. And that's what he was.
Speaker 1: He was the Escalade, the New Escalade with fucking it's
Speaker 1: a big piece. It's a big car. Look at the
Speaker 1: horse he's under it.
Speaker 2: Look at look at look at the engine, and I
Speaker 2: think it's a six point three supercharged Corvette engine. These
Speaker 2: things are fucking fast. My buddy got one. I don't
Speaker 2: even have a fucking escalator anything. This isn't an ad
Speaker 2: or anything. This is just literally what I thought. Supercharged
Speaker 2: super charge fucking six point three. That's that's Mike Alstott.
Speaker 2: Supercharge escalator.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit too, like you gotta switch it up,
Speaker 1: maybe add some tires to it or something.
Speaker 2: That's still America. I'll about put some.
Speaker 1: Like you know, like key the katy, escalate a little back,
Speaker 1: put some bruises on it, some scars.
Speaker 2: Well, you just change the tires. You're not gonna have
Speaker 2: rims on it.
Speaker 1: Once it gets dirty, never washed it either. That was uh,
Speaker 1: you know represent I'm talking and more to Zach you
Speaker 1: know t But okay, performance wise makes sense. I remember
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Go back the two touchdowns in the Division round versus
Speaker 2: the Niners in two thousand and two, seventeen carries eighty
Speaker 2: seven yards, two touchdowns, Bunks Bucks stomped the Niners thirty
Speaker 2: one to six en route to the NFC championship.
Speaker 1: Was that what Jeff Garcia?
Speaker 2: He'd have like only eighty seven yards, But you didn't
Speaker 2: see the third and four or the third and two
Speaker 2: where he like just blew up four dudes and he'd
Speaker 2: have such great situational runs like he was. He is
Speaker 2: the perfect four minute back four minute being like the
Speaker 2: last four minute. It's a situation that we all play
Speaker 2: out in our head when you play football, the last
Speaker 2: four minutes of the game. How if you have a lead,
Speaker 2: how do you sustain the time and take the time
Speaker 2: off the clock. You have to have long sustaining drives,
Speaker 2: but you also have to keep the clock running. A
Speaker 2: guy like him would be a four minute fucking running
Speaker 2: backs wet dream.
Speaker 1: And another trait that he had which never's really been
Speaker 1: talked about because as a full back you usually don't
Speaker 1: have patients. You're ready just to rip someone's head off
Speaker 1: and you're just ready to run with a full set
Speaker 1: of you know, full head of steam and just go
Speaker 1: take somebody out. And there's no patience. This guy had
Speaker 1: patients has a full back, and that's rare because, like
Speaker 1: I just said, you're trying to run just full speed
Speaker 1: to just level someone. But with the ball in his hands,
Speaker 1: he let the play develop. You know, he was patients,
Speaker 1: you know, with the way that he ran north and
Speaker 1: south patience, good jump cut, yes, great jump up. He
Speaker 1: was more north and south, but he just had that
Speaker 1: it feeling for the game of football at the full
Speaker 1: back position as well.
Speaker 2: You know what, And people who don't realize that he
Speaker 2: was great out out of the backfield catching the ball.
Speaker 1: I remember him.
Speaker 2: I remember watching him catch the ball a bunch too
Speaker 2: on those little wide routes him and work done on
Speaker 2: those double wide routes. Him and work Done together were
Speaker 2: a great little combo. Work Done was one of my
Speaker 2: favorite little running backs too. And they Rendez Barbara on
Speaker 2: the other side, Derek Brooks. This was a fucking legendary team.
Speaker 2: John Lynch shout out, fucking break your neck over the middle,
Speaker 2: like this was up these teams.
Speaker 1: I'm glad Lynch didn't play when I was playing, dude.
Speaker 1: He so my rookie year, I would have been knocked
Speaker 1: out like four more times up that scene. And Tom
Speaker 1: when I f cared, he would have still thrown me
Speaker 1: the ball, like, oh, that's Ghan Lench. I'll let Rob
Speaker 1: get you know, leveled. John Lynch was. He used to
Speaker 1: murder people, murder I remember I did.
Speaker 2: A thing with what's the sporting goods store out here, Modell's.
Speaker 2: I did a thing with Modell's and on the clearance
Speaker 2: track it was like my rookie year. There was a
Speaker 2: bunch of John Lynch Patriots jerseys because he was on
Speaker 2: the team for like a camp, and so they probably
Speaker 2: ordered a bunch of jerseys. I saw some can come
Speaker 2: pick it up.
Speaker 1: And another thing that as you know, had in his
Speaker 1: tools is that which is actually the most important thing
Speaker 1: I feel like his leverage. He knew that the game
Speaker 1: of football was dependent on leverage. Perfect size to get
Speaker 1: that leverage, so he can blow up whatever defender he
Speaker 1: needed to or break a tackle and like to get
Speaker 1: low like that and underneath someone else's paths. He was
Speaker 1: the master Adam and that's kind of what made him so.
Speaker 2: Like when you were in Tampa for that year a
Speaker 2: couple of years, was there like an all Stot aura
Speaker 2: in there? Could you know? Did you know he was
Speaker 2: part of the organization?
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever he came around, you had that.
Speaker 2: He came around a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm not a lot, you know, michae Alstott. I know
Speaker 1: he's big in the community, but you know he came
Speaker 1: around every once in a while. But whenever he came
Speaker 1: around and I got to meet him, I was kind
Speaker 1: of in awe because, like I said, allstart one of
Speaker 1: the baddest ass football players to ever live. You know,
Speaker 1: you got to show respect to the ones that were
Speaker 1: before you as well. And he kind of is similar
Speaker 1: with the style I play, but I would say that
Speaker 1: he's even a notch above me, and he did it
Speaker 1: at a higher level than me. Of that aggressiveness and
Speaker 1: playing the game of football, especially at the fallback position,
Speaker 1: which takes a lot more to do. But you feel
Speaker 1: that presence when he's around, and you appreciate it and
Speaker 1: you respect it to the highest level.
Speaker 2: Now, well, who's a mount rushmore of power runners? Let's
Speaker 2: get it, give us a let's see what the power
Speaker 2: runners are, because I think he'd be in there. Riggins
Speaker 2: would be in the who else Kazanka Larry zaka Larry's
Speaker 2: power runner?
Speaker 1: Oh what about the guy and the Giants back in
Speaker 1: the day when we were kids. Oh loved Bran and Jacobs,
Speaker 1: Brandon Jacobs man?
Speaker 2: Or what about Peyton hillis for that one year?
Speaker 1: Oh Payton Hellis, Yeah, He's definitely up there. He was
Speaker 1: on the cover of Madden for a year.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Brown was a fucking power runner. If
Speaker 2: you watch him like he was the biggest fastest man
Speaker 2: on the god damn field, like no one can I
Speaker 2: remember him punishing people like Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry definitely. Steve Ridley had it in him too.
Speaker 1: I loved when d was at full strength. That's why
Speaker 1: it was his second year. He went over four thousand yards,
Speaker 1: but Red ran over a couple of fools as well,
Speaker 1: remember the game in London, Yeah, versus at the time
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams just put his freaking shoulder down,
Speaker 1: just plaster plastered him.
Speaker 2: Earl Campbell, he was a physical runner. Remember those four
Speaker 2: arm shots he would give guys trying to take them down.
Speaker 2: I would go mount rushmore of power runners. Well, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be this is gonna be going hot in
Speaker 2: the comments section probably.
Speaker 1: But you're you're putting running backs in there as well.
Speaker 1: Mike Alstat was a full back. But we're just gonna
Speaker 1: combine them all. Such a power of a powerhouse of
Speaker 1: a runner.
Speaker 2: You gotta go all right this I'm gonna put I'll
Speaker 2: start one. I'm gonna go John Riggans to you. There's
Speaker 2: only four spots you got to.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna put Mike Alstart up there that you.
Speaker 2: Could take All Star three. I'm going to old Campbell.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: I fucking loved Darryl Campbell as an oil oiler. I
Speaker 2: didn't love him, I just remember watching his highlights kidneys.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with for the one year just overall.
Speaker 1: Actually no, no, my mind just changed. Last one. I
Speaker 1: was gonna give it to pay in hell. It's just
Speaker 1: for the one year two years they had in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: because it was absolutely absurd what he was doing. He
Speaker 1: was running cover, he was he was on the man cover.
Speaker 1: That's how good of a year that he had. And
Speaker 1: he was running over Archerynnis Marshall Lynch. I'm going with
Speaker 1: Jerome Bennis the bus, the bus. How can I not
Speaker 1: go with the bus? Like That's all the guy did
Speaker 1: was run with power. Marshaun Lynch was fucking powerful, especially
Speaker 1: so many good ones. It's hard to have a mount
Speaker 1: rushmore of power runners, jewels who created this like this.
Speaker 1: This is a stupid because they're all great.
Speaker 2: What a rookie card on a on a heart?
Speaker 1: What is it? A Harley? That's when you know you're badass.
Speaker 1: You're on the motorcycle looking like a stud, you know,
Speaker 1: filling out your chin, just actually eyeing down all the cheerleaders,
Speaker 1: just you know, during your photo shoot.
Speaker 2: Guy absolutes those look like twenty two inch arms too,
Speaker 2: dog those arms and look at his forearms. I bet
Speaker 2: you he could hit a baseball. Looks like an actor
Speaker 2: there he does. He looks like a beefy fucking looks
Speaker 2: like in top Gun. Yeah, you know what, he's a pilot.
Speaker 2: I don't, dude, he may be too big to be
Speaker 2: a pilot. Definitely, those little cockpits.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Man did he?
Speaker 2: I mean that was fucking the late late nineties, early
Speaker 2: two thousands, everyone did. I mean, Errique Iglaci has brought
Speaker 2: that ship out. Remember that we all had this, the
Speaker 2: little spice tips.
Speaker 1: Actually, I've never messed with my hair ever before. I
Speaker 1: wish I had spice.
Speaker 2: I went to private school, so we'd put like, spray
Speaker 2: the ship in your hair and get in trouble.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: What kind of dude is Mike all Stock?
Speaker 1: I mean he's everything.
Speaker 2: He's got dog tendencies. He's definitely probably was he did.
Speaker 2: He have dude dudes kind of vibes.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're blocking your face off like that
Speaker 1: for your tears. Always a dude's always a dude, no
Speaker 1: matter what, no matter what, whiz.
Speaker 2: He's kind of whiz. He innovated a fullback to be
Speaker 2: a tailback. There would be no Peyton Hillis if there
Speaker 2: was no fucking Mike Alstott.
Speaker 1: Freak of nature.
Speaker 2: He's definitely, I mean, he's absolutely too sick. He's also
Speaker 2: stud though. You see that, you see that rookie photo
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought. I said, what kind of
Speaker 2: fucking guy has a rookie photo on a Harley with
Speaker 2: this goddamn forearms that are eighteen inches, his biceps are
Speaker 2: twenty two.
Speaker 1: That's that's Studeley. It really is.
Speaker 2: On three one two three stove.
Speaker 1: He really is. I mean, that's all rounded us. He
Speaker 1: was also the face of a team.
Speaker 2: There's no like dogs aren't usually face you can be
Speaker 2: a face of a team, face off a team that
Speaker 2: didn't even get much attention, but then went out and
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl with yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and he was a huge part of it. Can't can't
Speaker 2: forget Warren Sapp and the Darek Brooks and that great
Speaker 2: defense Ronde Barber Kiffin fucking calling like they had some
Speaker 2: Those were some great teams. But everyone knew Mike Alsto.
Speaker 2: You know, we were on the West coast and that
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. Mike hal Stock, Yes, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get in the next guy. Let's do it. Got
Speaker 1: the AI summary right here in my hands. Standing feet
Speaker 1: four inches tall and weighing around two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: pounds during his playing days, he grew up in Daily City, California,
Speaker 1: and played and played college football at cal Poly sam
Speaker 1: Lewis oh Abispo Obispo as an offensive tackle. He was
Speaker 1: drafted in the twenty first round of the nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: eight NFL Draft by the Philadelphia Goes. My mind was
Speaker 1: just blown because I just learned something. Juliant. There was
Speaker 1: that many rounds in the NFL draft back then. He
Speaker 1: took twenty first round. How many rounds were there? Total?
Speaker 1: Thirty rounds total? Yeah, that's absurd when we started. I'm
Speaker 1: glad they knocked it down a little bit that that
Speaker 1: would be way too much. If there was thirty round
Speaker 1: it won't even make sense, won't even make sense. You'd
Speaker 1: have better have lower drosters. But was there less teams?
Speaker 1: Was there only like ten teams? Is that why there
Speaker 1: was thirty rounds? They're just throwing out there. It's like
Speaker 1: kind of getting drafted to go to the military, and
Speaker 1: if someone showed up, they showed up, then great kind
Speaker 1: But if they didn't show up, well, he didn't show up.
Speaker 1: That's why we drafted fifty players. Story to the military.
Speaker 1: That's when we know they just didn't have it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna draft fifty guys back then and the ones that
Speaker 1: don't show, we already know they don't have it, more
Speaker 1: like baseball in that military. But yeah, will take it.
Speaker 1: And he went on to become one of the most
Speaker 1: successful head coaches in NFL history, winning over one hundred
Speaker 1: games and securing a Super Bowl title in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: After his playing and coaching days were over, his football
Speaker 1: intellect and natural charisma helped him become a legendary broadcaster,
Speaker 1: pitch man, video game pioneer, and cultural icon. Let's get
Speaker 1: on John Madden. Madden and Jules. What's the first thing
Speaker 1: that you think of when you hear the name John Madden?
Speaker 2: The tur ducan?
Speaker 1: Oh tur duck.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't think of the turduckan. This guy used to
Speaker 2: cut the damn turduckan with his fingers. Those big ass
Speaker 2: offensive line sausages that he had. He cut the tur
Speaker 2: ducan on Thanksgiving and he would reward the MVP of
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day with the turduck and turkey, leg chicken, whatever
Speaker 2: the thing is, whatever it is, he would give it
Speaker 2: to him. We all know about it because of John Madden. Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: John Madden Football. When you watch it John Madden, if
Speaker 2: you're a kid that's in his thirties or lower forties,
Speaker 2: maybe even early fifties, taught you the game of football
Speaker 2: through his video game. John Madden is one of the
Speaker 2: most important names for the NFL, one of the most
Speaker 2: important names for the National Football League. I mean, you
Speaker 2: got kids out in Tokyo and Africa and India playing
Speaker 2: American football because of John Madden video game. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's actually true. I know it's the highest
Speaker 2: grossing American video game of all time. But you know,
Speaker 2: it sounded good. It sounded good. That's all matters, that's all.
Speaker 2: But you know, he Daily City. I love John Madden
Speaker 2: because he's a fellow college of Sam Matteo m Go
Speaker 2: Bulldogs went to CSM, the same Juco that I went to.
Speaker 2: He was born and raised in Daily City, so he
Speaker 2: had a huge Bay Area Bay Area influence. And then
Speaker 2: he also coached the Raiders. Legendary got them their first
Speaker 2: was it their first super Bowl? Got them their first
Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Al Davis, with that corner stone organization
Speaker 2: and the history of that organization. To be the guy
Speaker 2: that brings them their first I mean, he's just he's
Speaker 2: an absolute legend. His name is synonymous with football.
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you, being a California guy. How
Speaker 1: did being a NorCal guy shape his approach to the game.
Speaker 1: That's a question I did about you. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not even just John Madden. How is just being
Speaker 1: a NorCal guy overall? I mean John Madden set the standard,
Speaker 1: but like, how did that change the approach or how
Speaker 1: did he see it, you know, approaching the game, you know,
Speaker 1: just being from California.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at him on and how he
Speaker 2: was on TV, very approachable, very like there's always the
Speaker 2: stories of how John Madden took the bus everywhere and
Speaker 2: was always big in the community that he was visiting,
Speaker 2: would go up to people he was like the most
Speaker 2: famous guy in football, and he would go hang out
Speaker 2: at like the local restaurant. And I think maybe, and
Speaker 2: that's what the Knower Colnis he has is being able
Speaker 2: to be a very intellectual dude but be able to
Speaker 2: break it down to simple for everyone to understand. Kind
Speaker 2: of techie, kind of techy. I mean, he's C plus
Speaker 2: plus and ship.
Speaker 1: There we go. That's the answer that we're looking for.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, he's are from He's.
Speaker 2: Shipped for you to understand the coding football the regular
Speaker 2: viewer to understand. I mean, I mean, Daily City, the
Speaker 2: freaking cloudiest place in the world, but awesome right by
Speaker 2: the SFO.
Speaker 1: Literally, it's the It's why their geniuses. They don't go
Speaker 1: outside of the cloudy cloudy. What's the point of going
Speaker 1: outside there's no sun. You will stay inside. You become
Speaker 1: a tech master, tech master.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he was. Well in the
Speaker 2: Bay Area that you have this mountain range that is
Speaker 2: along the whole coast, and it funnels all that fog
Speaker 2: right from both north and south right into like Daily City,
Speaker 2: and so Daily City always freaking foggy. Shout out. Ceremony, Uh,
Speaker 2: that's over there. Ceremony was this mall where everyone would
Speaker 2: go get their Air Force ones. It was in Daily City,
Speaker 2: shout out? Is he the best greatest broadcaster of all time?
Speaker 1: Greatest broadcaster of all time? He was definitely one of
Speaker 1: the best broadcasters of all time. There's so many good
Speaker 1: broadcasters now, no doubt about it. I would say, in
Speaker 1: that era and being that consistent for that long of
Speaker 1: a time, yes, you got to give it to him,
Speaker 1: I would say, right, who'd be up there in that competition?
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of great ones. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know John Mann is the guy, but he is
Speaker 1: just the guy. And that's why he got the video
Speaker 1: game cover. Hey, I like wop. I want to say
Speaker 1: wop wop. Just the way that he broke down plays too.
Speaker 1: He like you said, he invented the illustrator. That that's
Speaker 1: why he is who he is, because you said it.
Speaker 1: He made the game simple, and the game of football
Speaker 1: is not simple. There's a lot going on, especially for
Speaker 1: you the quarterback. You got to know fifteen things going
Speaker 1: on in a matter of a split two seconds. You
Speaker 1: got to know where the safeties are, who's blitzing off,
Speaker 1: what the defensive lineman's doing, what your wide receivers are doing,
Speaker 1: what are the calls at the offensive line position. And
Speaker 1: then when he broke it down, when John Madden broke
Speaker 1: it down on that little you know, chalk board or whatever,
Speaker 1: he desjoyed. Yeah, he's the one who started that type
Speaker 1: of shit too. To break it down with the fans.
Speaker 1: He made it simple for fans to understand the game
Speaker 1: of football for people that don't play the game of football,
Speaker 1: because it's hard to understand the game of football if
Speaker 1: you don't play it. And if you can break it
Speaker 1: down easy, it gets the fans more involved. And that's
Speaker 1: also what made him so iconic, is he got so
Speaker 1: many fans involved in understanding the game of football because
Speaker 1: he broke it down so easily. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I am too. I appreciate when it's simple. Jeles
Speaker 1: when McDaniels was calling fifty calls at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: you got to do that when the butcher's I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's a lot for me. You gotta think. I like
Speaker 1: when it's simple. And McDaniels found that out too, as
Speaker 1: I also recorded, and he's like, I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 1: it simple for rock and that's when you thrive the most.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate John Madden for keeping it simple. You
Speaker 1: understand it and you can just go out there and
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2: They call that kiss keep it simple, silly, My dad
Speaker 2: used to say, stupid. Though you ever meet John Madden,
Speaker 2: I didn't get to meet John men. I never have either,
Speaker 2: but it feels like I feel like I know we
Speaker 2: ever did meet. Hi. Yeah, It's like you feel like
Speaker 2: you're you're a good friend. You know what he also did,
Speaker 2: like he brought in the telestrator.
Speaker 1: He brought in.
Speaker 2: You know, Madden. I remember hearing stories that they originally
Speaker 2: wanted to make it eight verse eight because they didn't
Speaker 2: have the technology to do eleven verse eleven. He and
Speaker 2: he was like, hard, no, if we're going to teach football,
Speaker 2: we're gonna teach it correctly. He taught football to the viewer,
Speaker 2: the telestrater. What that did and what that showed was
Speaker 2: that gave an inside look of how a coach coaches
Speaker 2: a player. You know, the great telestrator coaches that we had.
Speaker 2: I had Scotti O'Brien where these guys would sit up
Speaker 2: there for twenty minutes and they'd be doing John Madden shit.
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, He'd draw like a butt here,
Speaker 2: a butt here, you gotta get up there and go.
Speaker 2: And these guys get on these telestrators and they think
Speaker 2: they're fucking Picasso or something, and you know, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, it brought the best out of it.
Speaker 1: It brought the best and it was a form of
Speaker 1: entertainment and it was and it it broke it down
Speaker 1: simpler as well.
Speaker 2: And made it simple. And he was the first John
Speaker 2: Mann was the first to show people. That's how we
Speaker 2: broke down film. That's how like probably in those days
Speaker 2: they had overhead projectors where they would show all, right, guys,
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing, and like that that little
Speaker 2: thing right there is so huge. And now you look
Speaker 2: at like how they show games now everyone every network
Speaker 2: is always trying to look for that new thing. That's
Speaker 2: like the telestrator with all the different camera angles, the
Speaker 2: fucking hammer that goes in behind and everything, like all
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: You could.
Speaker 2: He's a pioneer a lot of that shit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. The Madden game. I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: John Madden so legendary. They already have a movie coming
Speaker 2: out about John Madden. You got Nicholas Cage playing Madden,
Speaker 2: and I've seen some pictures of him.
Speaker 1: He kind of looks exactly like Madden. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they do that. Nicholas Cage is a skinnier guy,
Speaker 1: and like, what do they do? Fill them up with pillows? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean when I might just fill myself self up
Speaker 1: with pillows, I'd be uh in one corner, my brother
Speaker 1: would be in the other corner, and we call it
Speaker 1: zooms and you just get as big as you possibly
Speaker 1: can and stuff as many pillows as you can, and
Speaker 1: you would run full speed at each other and just
Speaker 1: crash right into each other, kind of like Mark Allstop
Speaker 1: versus any linebacker, and you would meet at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then we would just go flying backwards.
Speaker 1: But our protection was the pillows. So that's what I
Speaker 1: guess Nicholas Cage is doing right now.
Speaker 2: Let me explain something to some people out there. For
Speaker 2: all you people that think, like, oh, I got a
Speaker 2: baby gronk in my house, look at this kid's His
Speaker 2: form of entertainment was running full speed into a wall
Speaker 2: with pillows.
Speaker 1: Into another person built different into another wall, into another person. Ship.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: He literally the former entertainment was playing hockey downstairs and
Speaker 2: fucking running into each other. That looks like Madden.
Speaker 1: That's Nicholas Cage. Holy ship. They got his titties and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching the movie.
Speaker 2: Remember he used to have man boobs. We all love
Speaker 2: Madden's man boobs.
Speaker 1: Would you have rather played for John Madden, as you know,
Speaker 1: with him being the head coach, or would you rather
Speaker 1: have been his broadcast partner?
Speaker 2: I'd rather play with him, played for him. I heard
Speaker 2: he was an awesome players coach. I took a picture
Speaker 2: recently in a bathroom I forgot where I was, and
Speaker 2: it was a quote of John Madden. He goes, guys,
Speaker 2: what was it? I think it was like, you can't
Speaker 2: break if you don't make a lot of rules, guys
Speaker 2: can't break them. It was something like along that line.
Speaker 2: Didn't I send it to you guys?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The fewer, the fewer rules the coach has, the fewer
Speaker 2: rules there are for players to break.
Speaker 1: Keeps it simple, keeps his the rules that he has
Speaker 1: probably get fouled so well because there's not so many rules.
Speaker 1: And I think he did only have three rules. What
Speaker 1: were they? They were simple, beyond time, pay attention. This
Speaker 1: is like Kindergarten. I love it. Yeah, I could have thrived.
Speaker 1: That could have gotten an a you know, playing for
Speaker 1: John Madden back in the day, and play hard when
Speaker 1: I tell you. I like that. So what if he
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you to play hard? You don't have to
Speaker 1: play hard. You're probably just playing your game. But then
Speaker 1: like when he really needs like that team to step up,
Speaker 1: his team to step up to another.
Speaker 4: Level, brings him in the huddel Hey, motherfuckers. I need
Speaker 4: you guys to play hard right now and whoop the
Speaker 4: motherfucking asses and then they go out there and play hard.
Speaker 1: I bet you he had.
Speaker 2: He probably had some great like pregame speeches.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy knows how to talk, savvy, savvy, clever,
Speaker 1: and it was like always like entertaining talk like the booms,
Speaker 1: and you know, he would come up with names and
Speaker 1: he would like he analogized the regular man shit to
Speaker 1: like I really look up to people like John Madden
Speaker 1: that just have that wittiness to them. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people like that. Greg Olsen has a stray hand
Speaker 1: has it, you know, Terry Bradshaw has it. Like you
Speaker 1: put him in any situation and they can just be
Speaker 1: witty with whatever's going on or figure out a way
Speaker 1: to explain what's going on or a way to ask
Speaker 1: a question of what's being evaluated right there. John Madden
Speaker 1: had that, the words he would come up with, the
Speaker 1: way he would explain things. You gotta be born with
Speaker 1: that trait. I mean you can develop it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I got it in a way, like, but they have
Speaker 1: it to a whole another level and it's like I
Speaker 1: envy it. I love it. I love what they just do.
Speaker 1: And John Madden had that and that's what made him
Speaker 1: so great rate as well. And that's what made him
Speaker 1: such a great speaker and a guy to explain the
Speaker 1: game and broadcaster and coach, because you can relate to
Speaker 1: people when you can, you know, speak like that. And
Speaker 1: I I I loved I love people like that. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: He's he's one of the only he's the only broadcaster
Speaker 2: to go on the four big networks NBC, CBS, ABC
Speaker 2: and then go into Fox.
Speaker 1: He did all four. He did the Big Four.
Speaker 2: That's when you know you're good hearing old stories from Shanks,
Speaker 2: one of our bosses at Fox. He used to say that,
Speaker 2: like John basically gave the template of how we're gonna
Speaker 2: call the game like and it was basically like a
Speaker 2: playsheet of like how they you would prepare for a game,
Speaker 2: like the information groups, like building a scouting system.
Speaker 1: There's he taught the people on like.
Speaker 2: What information he wanted to see, like what the coach's
Speaker 2: request for all the film guys for when they're breaking
Speaker 2: down an opponent. I heard like he was a huge
Speaker 2: part of all that. I could be completely wrong and
Speaker 2: may have just thought that through my brain. But I
Speaker 2: remember Shank's talking about a lot about Madden.
Speaker 1: No, definitely.
Speaker 2: He was one of the first guys that brought into
Speaker 2: interviewing with the players the night before.
Speaker 1: Whenever you hear like, oh, were you talking to this guy?
Speaker 2: You know, like that was John Madden.
Speaker 1: And that's a true inside perspective into the game. Is
Speaker 1: when you get inside the heads of a player. And
Speaker 1: John Madden started that, like you said, and that helps
Speaker 1: you out in the booth as well, and it gives
Speaker 1: you know, a better perspective to the fans in the sports.
Speaker 1: It's in the game all right, before we get on
Speaker 1: though and figure out what type of guy he is. Jules,
Speaker 1: I got a question, what was your best Madden rating?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, you do know, I really don't.
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't know.
Speaker 2: It was in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine. You were a ninety nine club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a ninety nine club or babe. That's why
Speaker 1: I asked you that. So boost my ego up a
Speaker 1: little bit. Ninety nine club a couple of times as well.
Speaker 1: What was that? I don't think I really deserved it,
Speaker 1: like one of the years, but I was a ninety
Speaker 1: nine er a few times my best?
Speaker 2: What was my best? Ninety five?
Speaker 1: Ninety five that's not bad. Ninety five is really good overall.
Speaker 1: It must have been your speed that knocked you down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your quickness is definitely ninety nine should be elite. What's
Speaker 1: your speed? What was your forty? By the way, four eight?
Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad. Actually I won. Yeah, but your
Speaker 1: quickness is just through the roof, through the roof.
Speaker 2: Jewels ninety five. Overall, that's not bad. You run the cover?
Speaker 2: What year twelve? I think it was you run the cover? Man?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, jeles so much cool shit I forget. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: thanks man, I appreciate it. It was really cool man.
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: You didn't get hurt after the curse was gone. It
Speaker 2: was it was gone. I forgot the guy before me
Speaker 2: broke it who was on it the year before?
Speaker 1: Remember that? But yeah, I was grind spiking on the cover.
Speaker 1: I mean it was special, dude. It was really special
Speaker 1: to be on the cover of Madden. So I just
Speaker 1: want to give a big shout up to John Madden
Speaker 1: for creating Madden and giving me the opportunity to be
Speaker 1: on the cover. And it was special, dude. It really
Speaker 1: was just just you know, it's an honor be in
Speaker 1: that category, you know, to be recognized like that. You know,
Speaker 1: that was one of the coolest things that happened to
Speaker 1: me while I was playing, you know, in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It really was hell yeah, I mean that's a huge honnor.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know my score, but like I remember,
Speaker 2: back when we were playing, we all looked at our score.
Speaker 2: I knew I was on a high ninety of some
Speaker 2: sort at my best, but like, that was a huge
Speaker 2: thing in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got guys that like that's all they
Speaker 1: care about. Now, that's all they care about, is God damn.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was it the New York Giants they
Speaker 1: were or was it the Jets? They were cutting guys
Speaker 1: based on their Madden score.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what they said. I mean in the
Speaker 2: Grand was running it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that just shows how influential, yeah, influential,
Speaker 1: and how legit Madden is. Let's get ado, what kind
Speaker 1: of dude is John Madden. I think this one's easy easy.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's definitely a stud drafted in the
Speaker 2: twentieth round, maybe a freak we all see the man
Speaker 2: boobs that's out of love. Uh definitely had some dogging
Speaker 2: him because I've seen a mother f some people. You
Speaker 2: see a mother f in the old footages. He used
Speaker 2: to yell and he used to remember he used to
Speaker 2: have all those great commercials. He used to have a
Speaker 2: lot of great commercials. He's definitely a dude's dude. But
Speaker 2: I think it's easy what he is. It is on
Speaker 2: three one two, three whiz. Why do you think he's
Speaker 2: a whiz.
Speaker 1: He's a whiz. I mean, like you said, he broadcasted
Speaker 1: for all you know, four of the major stations. He
Speaker 1: was a head coach. He was a player in just
Speaker 1: the way he broke down games. You gotta be a
Speaker 1: smart and intellectual guy in order to do that. And
Speaker 1: I would say that's his number one aspect of who
Speaker 1: he was was just his knowledge. And when you got
Speaker 1: that knowledge, you're a whiz.
Speaker 2: He literally got inside the game, as EA would say,
Speaker 2: because of John Matten.
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Speaker 1: of your hottest sports takes. Let everyone to it.
Speaker 3: Let's go Jules Gronk Sam from Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: My hottest sports take is this.
Speaker 3: The Ken State Golden Flashes football program is a million
Speaker 3: times better than the Arizona Tended Kittens football program, past,
Speaker 3: present and future. Hey, Gronk, Wildcats more like the Mildcats.
Speaker 2: You know what, I can't argue.
Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna argue, and I know you
Speaker 1: think that's freaking bet. I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: worst takes of all time going and Flashes can't even
Speaker 1: beat the Buffalo Bulls where I grew up right down
Speaker 1: the street. When when when my friend. When I got
Speaker 1: to Arizona, my friend Pete Binner was off into Lineman
Speaker 1: and he won the mac. Kent State was nowhere to
Speaker 1: be found, and that was in like, oh wait, you
Speaker 1: got that James Stark as a running back. The only
Speaker 1: reason why I knew about Kent State was well, once
Speaker 1: I got to meet you, you put Ken State on
Speaker 1: the map. And because that was just a team, the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bulls ran over I got. I gotta give you credits.
Speaker 1: Fucking hot takes pretty funny. You know a comedian thinks
Speaker 1: he's funny. Peanut Gallery, Arizona, Timid Kittens. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're talking about the sority girls, and yes, he's right.
Speaker 1: He must have visited there and saw what it was
Speaker 1: all about and got caught up in that and forgot
Speaker 1: that we have an all right football program. He's kind
Speaker 1: of right in that our football program very mild. I
Speaker 1: think this is what he's trying to explain. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: If what about our basketball program? Though? What about ours?
Speaker 1: We've been doing a leite eate. I mean we were
Speaker 1: in sixteen the last four years.
Speaker 2: Eight in two thousand and one, maybe three with Antonio Gates.
Speaker 1: But this is what he's trying to get. This is okay,
Speaker 1: I know I know what you Kent State in the mac.
Speaker 1: Have you been in Kent State? Never have? All Right,
Speaker 1: he's been to Miami, Ohio. We did great school, great school,
Speaker 1: love it. Bridge can shut out the brick street, drank
Speaker 1: plenty of these cors lights there, and I have my
Speaker 1: jersey hanging up.
Speaker 2: Miami, Ohio is in South Ohio. We're Northeast Ohio. So
Speaker 2: you're right by a big ass lake called Lake Erie. Okay,
Speaker 2: well we just talked about Like Erie too. We just
Speaker 2: talked about daily City being damn gladly. Kent is probably
Speaker 2: cloudy here, Okay. If Kent was in the beautiful desert
Speaker 2: with a lot of kittens running around like you talked about,
Speaker 2: I think that our team would be better. So that's
Speaker 2: what he's trying to say. With all your facilities, the
Speaker 2: beauty of your campuses, the great weather that you have,
Speaker 2: he's basically saying, you guys have a dogshit program, because
Speaker 2: that if you guys were to ever come and set
Speaker 2: foot in Northeast Ohio, you guys should be ten times
Speaker 2: worse than us.
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. I got no more next call.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go to Arizona for the football program. Buddy,
Speaker 1: just put it that way, You're like, like, we were
Speaker 1: three and ten. The year I committed to Arizona. It
Speaker 1: offers the Ohio State collap They were all top two
Speaker 1: in the world in college football. I went to Arizona
Speaker 1: not because the football program was, you know, ranked top
Speaker 1: ten every year. Well, I went to Kiss forty guys.
Speaker 1: We invented the plasma TV. Well, we have a very
Speaker 1: good NASA program. We send a lot of rockets to space.
Speaker 1: We're top five in fashion programs. We have a top
Speaker 1: twenty five business school that I was in. Then I
Speaker 1: dropped out because my brother was in and it looked
Speaker 1: really hard, so I dropped out to marketing and science.
Speaker 2: Well you're not going to beat this one. Yeah, Kent
Speaker 2: State on my official visit, told me we have a
Speaker 2: top two tasting tap water in America.
Speaker 1: While talking about top two tasting things, I learned what
Speaker 1: jungle juice was because of the University of Arizona, and
Speaker 1: that's a top tasting drink. Can't beat that. Next call,
Speaker 1: All right, I knew Arizona was.
Speaker 3: Better this season. Drake may will be a top five
Speaker 3: MVP candidates.
Speaker 1: Oh man, these are some hot takes. That last take
Speaker 1: was hot. This one's even hotter breaks the breaks. Drake
Speaker 1: may is a great quarterback, has a good team around him. Now.
Speaker 1: I can see him being a top five candidate for
Speaker 1: MVP in the future, maybe year three, four, five or
Speaker 1: something along those lines. But he's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: top five candidate this year. I mean, Stefan Diggs a
Speaker 1: great you know. Addition, we still don't know how he's
Speaker 1: gonna be coming off the ACL so just sure looks
Speaker 1: great and all right now coming off the worst line
Speaker 1: last year. You know, new head coach with Vrabel, obviously,
Speaker 1: everything looks great, but to be a top five candidate
Speaker 1: in MVP pumped up breaks too soon, a little too soon.
Speaker 2: He's well on his way to becoming a good football player,
Speaker 2: a good quarterback. You can't throw him great yet, no,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just there's too many variables
Speaker 2: in this sport.
Speaker 1: Yes, to just have that crazy e elise.
Speaker 2: New offensive coordinators, so he's gonna be juggling new protections,
Speaker 2: new calls, new language.
Speaker 1: New players to get used to.
Speaker 2: Now, you expect Drake to be a lot better this
Speaker 2: year because he's got a year under his belt. He knows,
Speaker 2: he knows the area, he knows the team. He's a
Speaker 2: little more comfortable. Now it's up to him to go
Speaker 2: out and he has to learn again. He's got to
Speaker 2: learn a new system again, he's got to learn a
Speaker 2: new this again. He's got to learn the new players again.
Speaker 2: So this is all part of the process of building
Speaker 2: this kid. But you know, let's pump the brakes. Let's
Speaker 2: just try to make the playoffs before we talk about MVP.
Speaker 2: Next question. I think the addition of George Pickens to
Speaker 2: the Cowboys team is See what handedly the reason the
Speaker 2: Cowboys will win the Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 1: This guy has definitely drank way too many Corus lives.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's out of his mind. He's probably twenty
Speaker 1: five beers deep. He's got to be if just the
Speaker 1: addition of George Pickens, I mean, there's so many other
Speaker 1: things that the Cowboys had to address, and they had
Speaker 1: one of the worst offseasons of all time this year
Speaker 1: that they're saying, I mean, just because you add a
Speaker 1: talented player doesn't mean you're gonna be that much better.
Speaker 1: They had a great wide receiver group last year and
Speaker 1: they didn't even make the playoffs. They got worse from
Speaker 1: the year before. But no, I don't think that makes
Speaker 1: that a super Bowl team this year. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: The best you've gotten out of Dak Prescott is when
Speaker 2: he's had a really good running back and he could
Speaker 2: be a play action quarterback. I think George Pickens's gonna help.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be helped, you know, on the X he's
Speaker 2: gonna help Ceedee Lamb who can break the intermediate part
Speaker 2: of that coverage and you got pickings going down deep.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be able to make fifty to fifty balls.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be able to make those back shoulder catches.
Speaker 2: But you know, when they're trying to win a game
Speaker 2: four min an offense, they don't have a Zekiel Elliott.
Speaker 2: They don't got one of those guys that they can
Speaker 2: give the ball to with their new fresh offense, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But that's when these guys were
Speaker 2: really good and they had Zeke and they had who
Speaker 2: was the guy Paullard who was playing. He really will
Speaker 2: when they've had a really good running back, that's when
Speaker 2: the Cowboys have been really good, and that's when Dak
Speaker 2: has been really good.
Speaker 1: Amen to that. So I like the addition and Joel's
Speaker 1: Madden right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think, I think, I think Dak
Speaker 2: will be able to Dak's got the personality to be
Speaker 2: able to handle both pickings and CD because those guys,
Speaker 2: you know, those those are some those guys want the ball.
Speaker 2: You know, it's tough for a quarterback. But I think
Speaker 2: if they get it, they got to get a running back.
Speaker 2: So let's pump the brakes on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Last one. Here we go, let's here. I love these
Speaker 1: hot takes.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers may not want to come down here. I
Speaker 3: don't want your ass anyway, Pale.
Speaker 2: Whatever quarterbacks starting for the Saints throwing a thousand more
Speaker 2: yards than his ass, you could print.
Speaker 1: That all right. Well, first off, you said Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: may not want to come down here. While he doesn't,
Speaker 1: it's not may. There's not even like our question is
Speaker 1: he gonna possibly come out. He's not coming down the state.
Speaker 1: He's too old to live in Louisiana and he's too
Speaker 1: old to play for the saying and your hot take,
Speaker 1: whatever quarterback is starting for the Saints, if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: does even play this year, if he does, he may retire.
Speaker 1: That's why he hasn't signed with a team. He's still contemplating.
Speaker 1: I mean for him. I mean, the guy deserves it.
Speaker 1: He's in his forties, played this long, that start of
Speaker 1: a player. He can do whatever he wants, take a
Speaker 1: however long you want to take. But if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: does sign with an NFL team, probably the Pittsburgh Steelers, preferably,
Speaker 1: I prefer that as well, because it would make the
Speaker 1: NFL that that much better and it would make that
Speaker 1: fuss fun as well. He he will not throw for
Speaker 1: a thousand yards less than the New Orleans Saints quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's more. Whoever, who's the d is the Saints quarterback?
Speaker 1: You don't even have a quarterback. That's why you're mad.
Speaker 1: Tyler Swang. The guy will be too busy playing with
Speaker 1: his dingling because that's his name.
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, Can he get him right? I mean this look,
Speaker 2: you can say what you want to say about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: He was looking pretty good at the back eight of
Speaker 2: last year when his achilles started to feel good, you know,
Speaker 2: so I'm not saying any of those.
Speaker 1: No chance, No chance, And Rodgers is going to throw
Speaker 1: for more yards than the New Orleans Saints quarterback if
Speaker 1: he plays. If he decides that he wants to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think so. I think so too.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I really do. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes it better. Even though he even though the Jets
Speaker 1: had the worst year, it made the Jets that much
Speaker 1: better to talk about, to watch, even make it watchable.
Speaker 1: You who have ever watched the Jets knowing it made
Speaker 1: it watchable. All the Patriots are playing the Jets. It's
Speaker 1: Rogers quarterback. Let's watch the Patriots or Jets. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has that, he has that it factor to bring in
Speaker 1: the fans, bring in the crowd, be talked about. And
Speaker 1: if imagine just him on the Steelers, I mean, Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: gonna be involved big time. Everyone. All the eyes are
Speaker 1: going to be on him in Pittsburgh. Everyone's gonna be
Speaker 1: a static there. The whole outside world too, is going
Speaker 1: to be watched.
Speaker 2: And every Pittsburgh fans bitching and moaning about it. Once
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers goes there, and they may start like two
Speaker 2: three and oh, they're gonna love him. If you win
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, they love you. It don't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter what you do off the field,
Speaker 1: in the locker room, what you're doing while you're taking
Speaker 1: a dumb If you win, you're loved in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh loves you. Yeah, that's that's the goddamn truth.
Speaker 1: Kind of like an NFL city.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's like another yeah, pittsmother level. Pittsburgh loves football. Man.
Speaker 1: All the freaking Pittsburgh people went to Kent State. So
Speaker 1: I saw him. Oh I was, I was? Where was
Speaker 1: I at the inndy five hundred? Yes, Jay, some Pittsburgh fans, Oh,
Speaker 1: go Steelers. I said I'm made of more steel than
Speaker 1: your old city. And they loved that, you know, I
Speaker 1: was just the way I said it. And then they
Speaker 1: looked at me, like, you're right, you dominated us, you
Speaker 1: were made of more ste Like that's right, body, I
Speaker 1: got him, got.
Speaker 2: The most lovable guy. Yeah, goes and talk shit to Steelers.
Speaker 1: Yep, Rob, you're right. You're right. Guy. Didn't argue anymore then, are?
Speaker 1: You told them I'm manute more steel than this whole city.
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