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Speaker 1: Okay, into another person, not a wall built different into

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Speaker 1: Okay, back to man. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gronkowski, and this.

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Speaker 2: Is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk

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Speaker 2: about their favorite dudes.

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Speaker 1: And today we're talking about a couple of folk heroes

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Speaker 1: The legend of Mike Alstott.

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Speaker 1: He could play an Anie era Anie era.

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Speaker 2: What made John Madden such a great broadcaster? I mean,

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Speaker 1: And also what it's like to be on the cover

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Speaker 2: hottest takes in this week's Chillis Dude of the Week,

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Speaker 1: Let's Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We're here in Boston, Ron Dudes on Dudes Back in Boston.

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Speaker 2: We are back in Boston. And every time we come

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Speaker 1: It feels like home every single time, especially when you

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Speaker 1: be of home forever, Jules. And it's Memorial Day weekend

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Speaker 2: Everyone just erupted. It was it was so everyone was erupting.

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Speaker 1: I heard they boot him? They boot him, they boot them,

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Speaker 2: It was his standard event? Uh saw Kelsey, trav was there,

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Speaker 2: he made an appearance. Patrick was there, clearly. I saw

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Speaker 1: Shipley was there or he's awesome Shipley Man. I played

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Speaker 2: We found out, like I never really met him, but

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Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday month to you, Juels to myself and

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Speaker 2: A q Shipley, awesome dude, there, you know there was

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Speaker 2: there was a bunch of dudes. There is standard golf event,

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Speaker 2: Shadow Creek in Vegas, spectacular course. Like everyone keeps on

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Speaker 2: it was fun and it was for a great cause.

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Speaker 2: Fifteenth fifteen in Mahomies. I think he helps a bunch

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Speaker 2: to what.

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Speaker 2: Who was in your court show with I golfed with

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Speaker 1: You know money, you know, they all got all them

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Speaker 2: You know that's the same chick from Varsity Blues.

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Speaker 2: Well, if Billy Bob was there, I would have been

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Speaker 2: see look at this Billy Thorn was I love, he's

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Speaker 2: fucking Jack Sparrow. He got a done with the hat

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Speaker 2: Before we get into our guys, we also, should you know,

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Speaker 2: dad when his dad passed. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of beef between our organizations, but you know we respect

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Speaker 2: the hell out of Yes, you know, the Colts and

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Speaker 2: I remember him always being heavily involved in you know,

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Speaker 2: about Jim irsay, with whatever craziness you love, it's all love.

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Speaker 2: I mean McAfee went like an hour two hours of

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Speaker 2: to Jim mersaying, you know, we lost one and he

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Speaker 1: So estressing peace Jim RP for everything that you have

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Speaker 2: Should we get into some dudes, yes we shall, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Standing six foot one inch tall, weighing two hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty eight pounds, this bruising fullback was selected thirty fifth

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Speaker 1: overall in the second round of the nineteen ninety six

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. He grew up in Jodiette, Illinois, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: on Mike all Stop, Oh my god, and Jules, what's

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Speaker 1: the first thing that you think of when you hear

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Speaker 1: real quick before you like, I believe that he was

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Speaker 1: bigger than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization. He was the

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Speaker 1: that's what you know. The first thing that comes to

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Speaker 1: my memory is that he's a Tampa Bay buccaneer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, first of you for me, neck roll, first thing,

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Speaker 2: I like that, and then freaking boomer just going.

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Speaker 1: Remember on all his highlights ego like this gid.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a bruiser, and I just remember like

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Speaker 2: I just always remember that they loved Mike Alstock because

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he gave so much hope

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. Was he like a super superstar in college?

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Speaker 1: I know only about him when he was on the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But did he actually like get handoffs

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Speaker 1: never knew his.

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Speaker 2: College feen touchdowns back to back over one thousand yards

435
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: years his junior year and senior year, eight hundred yards

436
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: his sophomore year, and as a freshman he had like

437
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: two hundred yards. So that's what got him drafted in

438
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Speaker 2: the second round as well, because he was showing the

439
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: ability that he could run the ball as well. His

440
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: rookie year he had sixty five catches. I mean, he

441
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: was a great out of the backfield. He was great

442
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: out of the Tom Rathman esque.

443
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Speaker 1: Just overall, just a great back, including being a full

444
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Speaker 1: and a running back. He's a back, yeah, He's just

445
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Speaker 1: a back. He could play in any era.

446
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: He could play it in the area. He could play

447
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: right now. He'd be great.

448
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: Right now, he would be It would bring back that

449
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: old school mentality. Imagine him on the Baltimore Ravens right

450
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: now with Lamar Jackson Henry what is the full back

451
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: and then he also has the I have a bit

452
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: handed off to him too. Yeah, they do.

453
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Speaker 2: What's his name? Fullback? Ravens big boy. He's the old

454
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: defensive lineman number. He's like two hundred ninety pounds. Recard, Yeah,

455
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Speaker 2: Recards a fucking monster too.

456
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Speaker 1: He is.

457
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Speaker 2: He's but he gets a couple here and there in

458
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: the little yeah waggles. Do you look at him just

459
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get right into it. Do you look at

460
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Speaker 2: him as the best fullback of all time? I think

461
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: he's probably the best hybrid fullback of all time because

462
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: you look at Neil uh that guy. I mean, he

463
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: was the fullback for like four rushing champs. Uh you

464
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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Uh? So Mike ousatt sto best fullback of all time as.

466
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Speaker 2: The running full back complete, I think he's the best

467
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: running fullback of all time. Okay, and I'm not trying

468
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: to downplay his blocking because war Done had some fucking

469
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: yards with him as well. But I'm just saying, like

470
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Riggins was insane. There's a bunch of guys that the

471
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Speaker 2: fullback position. What he did is he revolutionized the fullback position.

472
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: It used to be the fullback usually used to just

473
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Speaker 2: get a concussion every day because he had to hit

474
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Speaker 2: a linebacker ten times in a row full speed, or

475
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: the detackle on a wam or a you know what

476
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean, He's just getting concussions. He, as in Mike Alstott,

477
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 2: literally revolutionized it. We're like, hey, maybe we should give

478
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: this big ass dude the ball on a short yardage play.

479
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: Started doing that, and then all of a sudden, he

480
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: starts running for fucking fifty five yards, jumping over dude,

481
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: blowing people up, you know what I mean. So it's

482
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Speaker 2: hard to say he's the best of all time because

483
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: the guys before I don't think they got the opportunity

484
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: like him, which he earned that opportunity because he showed

485
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: it in practice. He showed that he had the speed

486
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: and everything to be able to do it. But he's

487
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: definitely up there. He's the best running fullback of all time.

488
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Speaker 1: I believe. M hm. We'll be right back after this

489
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Speaker 1: quick break. What I love about Mike Allstudy is that

490
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: he just represents a football player. Well, let me see,

491
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: this guy was a football player. Like if you had

492
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Speaker 1: to describe a football player, what a football player does,

493
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: that's Mike Allstart, just the way he had no fear.

494
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: And I don't envy these fullbacks. I'm telling you that

495
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: right now. I love blocking Jewels, but I love blocking

496
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: a guy that's, you know, his hands down right in

497
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Speaker 1: front of me, right on the line of screams. I'm talking.

498
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: These guys are tapped. Bro. I got two brothers that

499
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Speaker 1: are full back. I know one play three years, the

500
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: other one played about two years in the NFL. And

501
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: the way that they just line up in the backfield

502
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: run five yards at a linebacker that has a full

503
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: head of steam running five yards as well and just

504
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: has that big, huge collision. It's like a car crash

505
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: on a daily ba. I don't envy that they're tapped

506
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: to another level. They're special. It's wild that gene that

507
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: they have that they want to do that. Like James Devlin,

508
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: absolute savage as well. I just tried to call James.

509
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Probably need them pick up, James. We're trying to call you,

510
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: trying to call him because he's a neck roll guy too.

511
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Neck roll.

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Speaker 2: That's what that's what you think of when you think

513
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Speaker 2: of fullback.

514
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Neck roll.

515
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: Darryl Johnson don't forget him so well. People don't realize

516
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: the fullback. Throughout the week Wednesday Thursday, which are the

517
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: two hitting days, we have these nine on seven practice

518
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: drills where it's like you're it's just run game inside

519
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: run game. And I remember watching this and every freaking

520
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: play it's just Dantae high Tower going full speed at

521
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: James Devlin, head to head combat every single play. These

522
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: dudes are fucking calcified. Their heads are that's what they do.

523
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 2: They hit, they fucking their bricks. I wonder how he

524
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Speaker 2: was in the weight room, because I bet you he

525
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: was just a fucking like every fullback, they have dedicated

526
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: weight room time. Well, you know, like whenever the fullback

527
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: is in the weight room, it's like his weight room.

528
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's like a box of smelling salts there.

529
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: His knees are wrapped, the elbows are wrapped. And I'm

530
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: just talking off of like James Devlin and the guys

531
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Speaker 2: that I play with. But I can only imagine it's

532
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: the same way everywhere. There's usually like a bottle of

533
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: n explode right before, like right next to him, so

534
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: they could take a shot every time they're about to

535
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: hit the squats.

536
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Like that's what the fullback energy is. I mean, the

537
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: guy trained by pushing a car one hundred yards, that's

538
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: full back energy as well.

539
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: Right car though, uh jeep O there is I remember

540
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: that energy.

541
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Speaker 1: Jeep ain't easy. The push man. A jeep is an

542
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: off roading machine. No like that thing, you know, it's

543
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: technically a decent sized car. So that's kind of describes

544
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Mike Austin as well. He's like the off road jeep

545
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: you know that could also you know, have some talent

546
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: to maneuver on the highway and juke some dudes and

547
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: all start was the guy like had the neck roll.

548
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: He's a guy that looked like he could never duke

549
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: a defender ever, like he's just gonna run over an opponent,

550
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: which he did on a daily basis. But then all

551
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, out of nowhere, this guy had footwork

552
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: that looked like a running back and he would juke

553
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: a safety, a defensive back or a linebacker in the

554
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: open field and go for an extra fifteen. It's like, oh,

555
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: where did that footwork come from? Like unbelievable that he

556
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: had that in him. And that's what made him so

557
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: great as a ball carrier as well. And then also

558
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: what made him great too. I feel like, yeah, he

559
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: had those jukes, but when he was running over guys

560
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: and blocking guys, this guy kept his feet moving. And

561
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: they always emphasized that great coaches, offensive line coaches, you know,

562
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: tight end coaches, when you're in the blocking game, or

563
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: when you're running at someone or trying to get when

564
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: someone's trying to tackle, you keep your feet moving, keep

565
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: the high knees going. And Mike Alstott was the perfect

566
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: example of that. If you watch his highlight film, but Boom,

567
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: his feet were always rolling. He never stopped him. And

568
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: that's what makes you great. That momentum never stops and

569
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: you just keep trucking over mofos. And that's what he did.

570
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: You know what, and hold on, let me finish on

571
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: michaelstar Qui. The greatest thing about him. If you want

572
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: to get the chills, if you want to see what

573
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: a true football player is, you want to get amped up,

574
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: you watch one of the greatest highlight films of all time,

575
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: and that's Mike Alstein.

576
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: It is.

577
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: It'll, it'll get the hair, It'll get the hair on

578
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: the back lifted. Now.

579
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: I just had a thought in my head if Mike

580
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: Olstalt was a car. You know, he reminds me of

581
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: He reminds me of the New Escalade with the Z

582
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: six engine in it.

583
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: Where that thing?

584
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Have you heard those fucking cars? It's the Corvette engine

585
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: in the Escalade. So it's got giddy up, but it's

586
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: a big fucking piece of mass. And that's what he was.

587
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: He was the Escalade, the New Escalade with fucking it's

588
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: a big piece. It's a big car. Look at the

589
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: horse he's under it.

590
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: Look at look at look at the engine, and I

591
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: think it's a six point three supercharged Corvette engine. These

592
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: things are fucking fast. My buddy got one. I don't

593
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: even have a fucking escalator anything. This isn't an ad

594
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: or anything. This is just literally what I thought. Supercharged

595
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: super charge fucking six point three. That's that's Mike Alstott.

596
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Supercharge escalator.

597
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit too, like you gotta switch it up,

598
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: maybe add some tires to it or something.

599
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: That's still America. I'll about put some.

600
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, like key the katy, escalate a little back,

601
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: put some bruises on it, some scars.

602
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Well, you just change the tires. You're not gonna have

603
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: rims on it.

604
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: Once it gets dirty, never washed it either. That was uh,

605
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: you know represent I'm talking and more to Zach you

606
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: know t But okay, performance wise makes sense. I remember

607
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: that game.

608
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Go back the two touchdowns in the Division round versus

609
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: the Niners in two thousand and two, seventeen carries eighty

610
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: seven yards, two touchdowns, Bunks Bucks stomped the Niners thirty

611
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: one to six en route to the NFC championship.

612
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Was that what Jeff Garcia?

613
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: He'd have like only eighty seven yards, But you didn't

614
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: see the third and four or the third and two

615
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: where he like just blew up four dudes and he'd

616
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: have such great situational runs like he was. He is

617
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: the perfect four minute back four minute being like the

618
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: last four minute. It's a situation that we all play

619
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: out in our head when you play football, the last

620
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: four minutes of the game. How if you have a lead,

621
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: how do you sustain the time and take the time

622
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: off the clock. You have to have long sustaining drives,

623
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: but you also have to keep the clock running. A

624
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: guy like him would be a four minute fucking running

625
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: backs wet dream.

626
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: And another trait that he had which never's really been

627
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: talked about because as a full back you usually don't

628
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: have patients. You're ready just to rip someone's head off

629
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: and you're just ready to run with a full set

630
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: of you know, full head of steam and just go

631
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: take somebody out. And there's no patience. This guy had

632
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: patients has a full back, and that's rare because, like

633
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I just said, you're trying to run just full speed

634
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: to just level someone. But with the ball in his hands,

635
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: he let the play develop. You know, he was patients,

636
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, with the way that he ran north and

637
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: south patience, good jump cut, yes, great jump up. He

638
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: was more north and south, but he just had that

639
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: it feeling for the game of football at the full

640
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: back position as well.

641
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: You know what, And people who don't realize that he

642
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: was great out out of the backfield catching the ball.

643
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: I remember him.

644
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: I remember watching him catch the ball a bunch too

645
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: on those little wide routes him and work done on

646
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: those double wide routes. Him and work Done together were

647
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: a great little combo. Work Done was one of my

648
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: favorite little running backs too. And they Rendez Barbara on

649
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: the other side, Derek Brooks. This was a fucking legendary team.

650
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: John Lynch shout out, fucking break your neck over the middle,

651
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: like this was up these teams.

652
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad Lynch didn't play when I was playing, dude.

653
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: He so my rookie year, I would have been knocked

654
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: out like four more times up that scene. And Tom

655
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: when I f cared, he would have still thrown me

656
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: the ball, like, oh, that's Ghan Lench. I'll let Rob

657
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: get you know, leveled. John Lynch was. He used to

658
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: murder people, murder I remember I did.

659
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: A thing with what's the sporting goods store out here, Modell's.

660
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: I did a thing with Modell's and on the clearance

661
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: track it was like my rookie year. There was a

662
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: bunch of John Lynch Patriots jerseys because he was on

663
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: the team for like a camp, and so they probably

664
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: ordered a bunch of jerseys. I saw some can come

665
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 2: pick it up.

666
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: And another thing that as you know, had in his

667
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: tools is that which is actually the most important thing

668
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I feel like his leverage. He knew that the game

669
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: of football was dependent on leverage. Perfect size to get

670
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: that leverage, so he can blow up whatever defender he

671
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: needed to or break a tackle and like to get

672
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: low like that and underneath someone else's paths. He was

673
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: the master Adam and that's kind of what made him so.

674
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: Like when you were in Tampa for that year a

675
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: couple of years, was there like an all Stot aura

676
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: in there? Could you know? Did you know he was

677
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: part of the organization?

678
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever he came around, you had that.

679
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: He came around a lot.

680
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a lot, you know, michae Alstott. I know

681
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: he's big in the community, but you know he came

682
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: around every once in a while. But whenever he came

683
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: around and I got to meet him, I was kind

684
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: of in awe because, like I said, allstart one of

685
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: the baddest ass football players to ever live. You know,

686
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: you got to show respect to the ones that were

687
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: before you as well. And he kind of is similar

688
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: with the style I play, but I would say that

689
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: he's even a notch above me, and he did it

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: at a higher level than me. Of that aggressiveness and

691
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: playing the game of football, especially at the fallback position,

692
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: which takes a lot more to do. But you feel

693
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: that presence when he's around, and you appreciate it and

694
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: you respect it to the highest level.

695
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: Now, well, who's a mount rushmore of power runners? Let's

696
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: get it, give us a let's see what the power

697
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: runners are, because I think he'd be in there. Riggins

698
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: would be in the who else Kazanka Larry zaka Larry's

699
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: power runner?

700
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh what about the guy and the Giants back in

701
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: the day when we were kids. Oh loved Bran and Jacobs,

702
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Jacobs man?

703
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: Or what about Peyton hillis for that one year?

704
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh Payton Hellis, Yeah, He's definitely up there. He was

705
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: on the cover of Madden for a year.

706
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Brown was a fucking power runner. If

707
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: you watch him like he was the biggest fastest man

708
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: on the god damn field, like no one can I

709
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: remember him punishing people like Derrick Henry.

710
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry definitely. Steve Ridley had it in him too.

711
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: I loved when d was at full strength. That's why

712
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: it was his second year. He went over four thousand yards,

713
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: but Red ran over a couple of fools as well,

714
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: remember the game in London, Yeah, versus at the time

715
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams just put his freaking shoulder down,

716
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: just plaster plastered him.

717
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Earl Campbell, he was a physical runner. Remember those four

718
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: arm shots he would give guys trying to take them down.

719
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: I would go mount rushmore of power runners. Well, this

720
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: is gonna be this is gonna be going hot in

721
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: the comments section probably.

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: But you're you're putting running backs in there as well.

723
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: Mike Alstat was a full back. But we're just gonna

724
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: combine them all. Such a power of a powerhouse of

725
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a runner.

726
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: You gotta go all right this I'm gonna put I'll

727
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: start one. I'm gonna go John Riggans to you. There's

728
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: only four spots you got to.

729
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna put Mike Alstart up there that you.

730
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: Could take All Star three. I'm going to old Campbell.

731
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: M hm.

732
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: I fucking loved Darryl Campbell as an oil oiler. I

733
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 2: didn't love him, I just remember watching his highlights kidneys.

734
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with for the one year just overall.

735
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Actually no, no, my mind just changed. Last one. I

736
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: was gonna give it to pay in hell. It's just

737
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: for the one year two years they had in Cleveland,

738
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: because it was absolutely absurd what he was doing. He

739
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: was running cover, he was he was on the man cover.

740
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: That's how good of a year that he had. And

741
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: he was running over Archerynnis Marshall Lynch. I'm going with

742
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Jerome Bennis the bus, the bus. How can I not

743
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: go with the bus? Like That's all the guy did

744
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: was run with power. Marshaun Lynch was fucking powerful, especially

745
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: so many good ones. It's hard to have a mount

746
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: rushmore of power runners, jewels who created this like this.

747
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: This is a stupid because they're all great.

748
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: What a rookie card on a on a heart?

749
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: What is it? A Harley? That's when you know you're badass.

750
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: You're on the motorcycle looking like a stud, you know,

751
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: filling out your chin, just actually eyeing down all the cheerleaders,

752
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: just you know, during your photo shoot.

753
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: Guy absolutes those look like twenty two inch arms too,

754
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: dog those arms and look at his forearms. I bet

755
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: you he could hit a baseball. Looks like an actor

756
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: there he does. He looks like a beefy fucking looks

757
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: like in top Gun. Yeah, you know what, he's a pilot.

758
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: I don't, dude, he may be too big to be

759
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: a pilot. Definitely, those little cockpits.

760
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Man did he?

761
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: I mean that was fucking the late late nineties, early

762
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: two thousands, everyone did. I mean, Errique Iglaci has brought

763
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: that ship out. Remember that we all had this, the

764
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: little spice tips.

765
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: Actually, I've never messed with my hair ever before. I

766
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: wish I had spice.

767
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: I went to private school, so we'd put like, spray

768
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: the ship in your hair and get in trouble.

769
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: All right.

770
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: What kind of dude is Mike all Stock?

771
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's everything.

772
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: He's got dog tendencies. He's definitely probably was he did.

773
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: He have dude dudes kind of vibes.

774
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're blocking your face off like that

775
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: for your tears. Always a dude's always a dude, no

776
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: matter what, no matter what, whiz.

777
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: He's kind of whiz. He innovated a fullback to be

778
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: a tailback. There would be no Peyton Hillis if there

779
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: was no fucking Mike Alstott.

780
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: Freak of nature.

781
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 2: He's definitely, I mean, he's absolutely too sick. He's also

782
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: stud though. You see that, you see that rookie photo

783
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought. I said, what kind of

784
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: fucking guy has a rookie photo on a Harley with

785
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: this goddamn forearms that are eighteen inches, his biceps are

786
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: twenty two.

787
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: That's that's Studeley. It really is.

788
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: On three one two three stove.

789
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: He really is. I mean, that's all rounded us. He

790
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: was also the face of a team.

791
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: There's no like dogs aren't usually face you can be

792
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: a face of a team, face off a team that

793
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: didn't even get much attention, but then went out and

794
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl with yes, you know what I mean,

795
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: and he was a huge part of it. Can't can't

796
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: forget Warren Sapp and the Darek Brooks and that great

797
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: defense Ronde Barber Kiffin fucking calling like they had some

798
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: Those were some great teams. But everyone knew Mike Alsto.

799
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: You know, we were on the West coast and that

800
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: was like.

801
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. Mike hal Stock, Yes, all right, all right,

802
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: let's get in the next guy. Let's do it. Got

803
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the AI summary right here in my hands. Standing feet

804
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: four inches tall and weighing around two hundred and fifty

805
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: pounds during his playing days, he grew up in Daily City, California,

806
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: and played and played college football at cal Poly sam

807
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Lewis oh Abispo Obispo as an offensive tackle. He was

808
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: drafted in the twenty first round of the nineteen fifty

809
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: eight NFL Draft by the Philadelphia Goes. My mind was

810
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: just blown because I just learned something. Juliant. There was

811
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: that many rounds in the NFL draft back then. He

812
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: took twenty first round. How many rounds were there? Total?

813
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Thirty rounds total? Yeah, that's absurd when we started. I'm

814
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: glad they knocked it down a little bit that that

815
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: would be way too much. If there was thirty round

816
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: it won't even make sense, won't even make sense. You'd

817
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: have better have lower drosters. But was there less teams?

818
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Was there only like ten teams? Is that why there

819
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: was thirty rounds? They're just throwing out there. It's like

820
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of getting drafted to go to the military, and

821
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: if someone showed up, they showed up, then great kind

822
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: But if they didn't show up, well, he didn't show up.

823
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: That's why we drafted fifty players. Story to the military.

824
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: That's when we know they just didn't have it. You're

825
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna draft fifty guys back then and the ones that

826
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: don't show, we already know they don't have it, more

827
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: like baseball in that military. But yeah, will take it.

828
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: And he went on to become one of the most

829
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: successful head coaches in NFL history, winning over one hundred

830
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: games and securing a Super Bowl title in nineteen seventy seven.

831
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: After his playing and coaching days were over, his football

832
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: intellect and natural charisma helped him become a legendary broadcaster,

833
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: pitch man, video game pioneer, and cultural icon. Let's get

834
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: on John Madden. Madden and Jules. What's the first thing

835
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: that you think of when you hear the name John Madden?

836
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: The tur ducan?

837
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh tur duck.

838
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: Who doesn't think of the turduckan. This guy used to

839
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: cut the damn turduckan with his fingers. Those big ass

840
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: offensive line sausages that he had. He cut the tur

841
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: ducan on Thanksgiving and he would reward the MVP of

842
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day with the turduck and turkey, leg chicken, whatever

843
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: the thing is, whatever it is, he would give it

844
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: to him. We all know about it because of John Madden. Thanksgiving,

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: John Madden Football. When you watch it John Madden, if

846
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: you're a kid that's in his thirties or lower forties,

847
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: maybe even early fifties, taught you the game of football

848
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: through his video game. John Madden is one of the

849
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: most important names for the NFL, one of the most

850
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: important names for the National Football League. I mean, you

851
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: got kids out in Tokyo and Africa and India playing

852
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: American football because of John Madden video game. I don't

853
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: know if that's actually true. I know it's the highest

854
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: grossing American video game of all time. But you know,

855
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: it sounded good. It sounded good. That's all matters, that's all.

856
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: But you know, he Daily City. I love John Madden

857
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: because he's a fellow college of Sam Matteo m Go

858
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: Bulldogs went to CSM, the same Juco that I went to.

859
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: He was born and raised in Daily City, so he

860
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: had a huge Bay Area Bay Area influence. And then

861
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: he also coached the Raiders. Legendary got them their first

862
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: was it their first super Bowl? Got them their first

863
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Al Davis, with that corner stone organization

864
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: and the history of that organization. To be the guy

865
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: that brings them their first I mean, he's just he's

866
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: an absolute legend. His name is synonymous with football.

867
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you, being a California guy. How

868
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: did being a NorCal guy shape his approach to the game.

869
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: That's a question I did about you. Well, I mean

870
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: it's not even just John Madden. How is just being

871
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: a NorCal guy overall? I mean John Madden set the standard,

872
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: but like, how did that change the approach or how

873
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: did he see it, you know, approaching the game, you know,

874
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: just being from California.

875
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at him on and how he

876
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: was on TV, very approachable, very like there's always the

877
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: stories of how John Madden took the bus everywhere and

878
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: was always big in the community that he was visiting,

879
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: would go up to people he was like the most

880
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: famous guy in football, and he would go hang out

881
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: at like the local restaurant. And I think maybe, and

882
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: that's what the Knower Colnis he has is being able

883
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: to be a very intellectual dude but be able to

884
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: break it down to simple for everyone to understand. Kind

885
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 2: of techie, kind of techy. I mean, he's C plus

886
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: plus and ship.

887
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: There we go. That's the answer that we're looking for.

888
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, he's are from He's.

889
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Shipped for you to understand the coding football the regular

890
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: viewer to understand. I mean, I mean, Daily City, the

891
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: freaking cloudiest place in the world, but awesome right by

892
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: the SFO.

893
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: Literally, it's the It's why their geniuses. They don't go

894
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: outside of the cloudy cloudy. What's the point of going

895
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: outside there's no sun. You will stay inside. You become

896
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: a tech master, tech master.

897
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he was. Well in the

898
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Bay Area that you have this mountain range that is

899
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: along the whole coast, and it funnels all that fog

900
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: right from both north and south right into like Daily City,

901
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: and so Daily City always freaking foggy. Shout out. Ceremony, Uh,

902
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: that's over there. Ceremony was this mall where everyone would

903
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: go get their Air Force ones. It was in Daily City,

904
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: shout out? Is he the best greatest broadcaster of all time?

905
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: Greatest broadcaster of all time? He was definitely one of

906
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: the best broadcasters of all time. There's so many good

907
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: broadcasters now, no doubt about it. I would say, in

908
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: that era and being that consistent for that long of

909
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: a time, yes, you got to give it to him,

910
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: I would say, right, who'd be up there in that competition?

911
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of great ones. I mean, I

912
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know John Mann is the guy, but he is

913
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: just the guy. And that's why he got the video

914
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: game cover. Hey, I like wop. I want to say

915
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: wop wop. Just the way that he broke down plays too.

916
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: He like you said, he invented the illustrator. That that's

917
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: why he is who he is, because you said it.

918
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: He made the game simple, and the game of football

919
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: is not simple. There's a lot going on, especially for

920
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: you the quarterback. You got to know fifteen things going

921
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: on in a matter of a split two seconds. You

922
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: got to know where the safeties are, who's blitzing off,

923
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: what the defensive lineman's doing, what your wide receivers are doing,

924
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: what are the calls at the offensive line position. And

925
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: then when he broke it down, when John Madden broke

926
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: it down on that little you know, chalk board or whatever,

927
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: he desjoyed. Yeah, he's the one who started that type

928
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: of shit too. To break it down with the fans.

929
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: He made it simple for fans to understand the game

930
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: of football for people that don't play the game of football,

931
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: because it's hard to understand the game of football if

932
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: you don't play it. And if you can break it

933
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: down easy, it gets the fans more involved. And that's

934
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: also what made him so iconic, is he got so

935
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: many fans involved in understanding the game of football because

936
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: he broke it down so easily. And that's kind of

937
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: how I am too. I appreciate when it's simple. Jeles

938
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: when McDaniels was calling fifty calls at the line of scrimmage,

939
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: you got to do that when the butcher's I'm like, no,

940
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot for me. You gotta think. I like

941
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: when it's simple. And McDaniels found that out too, as

942
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: I also recorded, and he's like, I'm just gonna keep

943
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: it simple for rock and that's when you thrive the most.

944
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: So I appreciate John Madden for keeping it simple. You

945
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: understand it and you can just go out there and

946
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do.

947
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: They call that kiss keep it simple, silly, My dad

948
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: used to say, stupid. Though you ever meet John Madden,

949
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: I didn't get to meet John men. I never have either,

950
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: but it feels like I feel like I know we

951
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: ever did meet. Hi. Yeah, It's like you feel like

952
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: you're you're a good friend. You know what he also did,

953
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: like he brought in the telestrator.

954
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: He brought in.

955
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: You know, Madden. I remember hearing stories that they originally

956
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: wanted to make it eight verse eight because they didn't

957
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: have the technology to do eleven verse eleven. He and

958
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: he was like, hard, no, if we're going to teach football,

959
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna teach it correctly. He taught football to the viewer,

960
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: the telestrater. What that did and what that showed was

961
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: that gave an inside look of how a coach coaches

962
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: a player. You know, the great telestrator coaches that we had.

963
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: I had Scotti O'Brien where these guys would sit up

964
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: there for twenty minutes and they'd be doing John Madden shit.

965
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, He'd draw like a butt here,

966
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: a butt here, you gotta get up there and go.

967
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: And these guys get on these telestrators and they think

968
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: they're fucking Picasso or something, and you know, and it's

969
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: you know, it brought the best out of it.

970
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: It brought the best and it was a form of

971
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: entertainment and it was and it it broke it down

972
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: simpler as well.

973
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: And made it simple. And he was the first John

974
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Mann was the first to show people. That's how we

975
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: broke down film. That's how like probably in those days

976
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: they had overhead projectors where they would show all, right, guys,

977
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing, and like that that little

978
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: thing right there is so huge. And now you look

979
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: at like how they show games now everyone every network

980
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: is always trying to look for that new thing. That's

981
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: like the telestrator with all the different camera angles, the

982
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: fucking hammer that goes in behind and everything, like all

983
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: that stuff.

984
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: You could.

985
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: He's a pioneer a lot of that shit, you know

986
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: what I mean. The Madden game. I mean, I mean

987
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: John Madden so legendary. They already have a movie coming

988
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: out about John Madden. You got Nicholas Cage playing Madden,

989
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: and I've seen some pictures of him.

990
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: He kind of looks exactly like Madden. I don't know

991
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: how they do that. Nicholas Cage is a skinnier guy,

992
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: and like, what do they do? Fill them up with pillows? Yeah,

993
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: I mean when I might just fill myself self up

994
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: with pillows, I'd be uh in one corner, my brother

995
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: would be in the other corner, and we call it

996
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: zooms and you just get as big as you possibly

997
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: can and stuff as many pillows as you can, and

998
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: you would run full speed at each other and just

999
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: crash right into each other, kind of like Mark Allstop

1000
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: versus any linebacker, and you would meet at the line

1001
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then we would just go flying backwards.

1002
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: But our protection was the pillows. So that's what I

1003
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: guess Nicholas Cage is doing right now.

1004
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Let me explain something to some people out there. For

1005
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: all you people that think, like, oh, I got a

1006
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: baby gronk in my house, look at this kid's His

1007
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: form of entertainment was running full speed into a wall

1008
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: with pillows.

1009
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: Into another person built different into another wall, into another person. Ship.

1010
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1011
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: He literally the former entertainment was playing hockey downstairs and

1012
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: fucking running into each other. That looks like Madden.

1013
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: That's Nicholas Cage. Holy ship. They got his titties and everything.

1014
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching the movie.

1015
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: Remember he used to have man boobs. We all love

1016
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Madden's man boobs.

1017
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Would you have rather played for John Madden, as you know,

1018
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: with him being the head coach, or would you rather

1019
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: have been his broadcast partner?

1020
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: I'd rather play with him, played for him. I heard

1021
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: he was an awesome players coach. I took a picture

1022
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: recently in a bathroom I forgot where I was, and

1023
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: it was a quote of John Madden. He goes, guys,

1024
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: what was it? I think it was like, you can't

1025
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: break if you don't make a lot of rules, guys

1026
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: can't break them. It was something like along that line.

1027
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Didn't I send it to you guys?

1028
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.

1029
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: The fewer, the fewer rules the coach has, the fewer

1030
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: rules there are for players to break.

1031
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Keeps it simple, keeps his the rules that he has

1032
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: probably get fouled so well because there's not so many rules.

1033
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: And I think he did only have three rules. What

1034
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: were they? They were simple, beyond time, pay attention. This

1035
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: is like Kindergarten. I love it. Yeah, I could have thrived.

1036
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: That could have gotten an a you know, playing for

1037
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: John Madden back in the day, and play hard when

1038
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: I tell you. I like that. So what if he

1039
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you to play hard? You don't have to

1040
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: play hard. You're probably just playing your game. But then

1041
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: like when he really needs like that team to step up,

1042
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: his team to step up to another.

1043
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: Level, brings him in the huddel Hey, motherfuckers. I need

1044
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: you guys to play hard right now and whoop the

1045
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 4: motherfucking asses and then they go out there and play hard.

1046
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: I bet you he had.

1047
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: He probably had some great like pregame speeches.

1048
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy knows how to talk, savvy, savvy, clever,

1049
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: and it was like always like entertaining talk like the booms,

1050
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: and you know, he would come up with names and

1051
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: he would like he analogized the regular man shit to

1052
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: like I really look up to people like John Madden

1053
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: that just have that wittiness to them. There's a lot

1054
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: of people like that. Greg Olsen has a stray hand

1055
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: has it, you know, Terry Bradshaw has it. Like you

1056
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: put him in any situation and they can just be

1057
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: witty with whatever's going on or figure out a way

1058
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: to explain what's going on or a way to ask

1059
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: a question of what's being evaluated right there. John Madden

1060
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: had that, the words he would come up with, the

1061
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: way he would explain things. You gotta be born with

1062
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: that trait. I mean you can develop it a little bit.

1063
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I got it in a way, like, but they have

1064
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: it to a whole another level and it's like I

1065
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: envy it. I love it. I love what they just do.

1066
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: And John Madden had that and that's what made him

1067
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: so great rate as well. And that's what made him

1068
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: such a great speaker and a guy to explain the

1069
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: game and broadcaster and coach, because you can relate to

1070
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: people when you can, you know, speak like that. And

1071
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: I I I loved I love people like that. And

1072
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

1073
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: He's he's one of the only he's the only broadcaster

1074
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: to go on the four big networks NBC, CBS, ABC

1075
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: and then go into Fox.

1076
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: He did all four. He did the Big Four.

1077
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Speaker 2: That's when you know you're good hearing old stories from Shanks,

1078
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: one of our bosses at Fox. He used to say that,

1079
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: like John basically gave the template of how we're gonna

1080
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: call the game like and it was basically like a

1081
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: playsheet of like how they you would prepare for a game,

1082
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: like the information groups, like building a scouting system.

1083
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: There's he taught the people on like.

1084
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: What information he wanted to see, like what the coach's

1085
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: request for all the film guys for when they're breaking

1086
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: down an opponent. I heard like he was a huge

1087
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: part of all that. I could be completely wrong and

1088
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: may have just thought that through my brain. But I

1089
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 2: remember Shank's talking about a lot about Madden.

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: No, definitely.

1091
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: He was one of the first guys that brought into

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00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: interviewing with the players the night before.

1093
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Whenever you hear like, oh, were you talking to this guy?

1094
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: You know, like that was John Madden.

1095
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: And that's a true inside perspective into the game. Is

1096
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: when you get inside the heads of a player. And

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00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: John Madden started that, like you said, and that helps

1098
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: you out in the booth as well, and it gives

1099
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, a better perspective to the fans in the sports.

1100
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: It's in the game all right, before we get on

1101
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: though and figure out what type of guy he is. Jules,

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00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: I got a question, what was your best Madden rating?

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, you do know, I really don't.

1104
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't know.

1105
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: It was in the nineties.

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine. You were a ninety nine club. Yeah,

1107
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: I was a ninety nine club or babe. That's why

1108
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: I asked you that. So boost my ego up a

1109
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: little bit. Ninety nine club a couple of times as well.

1110
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: What was that? I don't think I really deserved it,

1111
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: like one of the years, but I was a ninety

1112
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: nine er a few times my best?

1113
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: What was my best? Ninety five?

1114
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Ninety five that's not bad. Ninety five is really good overall.

1115
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: It must have been your speed that knocked you down. Yeah,

1116
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: your quickness is definitely ninety nine should be elite. What's

1117
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: your speed? What was your forty? By the way, four eight?

1118
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad. Actually I won. Yeah, but your

1119
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: quickness is just through the roof, through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Jewels ninety five. Overall, that's not bad. You run the cover?

1121
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: What year twelve? I think it was you run the cover? Man?

1122
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, jeles so much cool shit I forget. Yes, yes,

1123
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: thanks man, I appreciate it. It was really cool man.

1124
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get hurt after the curse was gone. It

1126
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: was it was gone. I forgot the guy before me

1127
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: broke it who was on it the year before?

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Speaker 1: Remember that? But yeah, I was grind spiking on the cover.

1129
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was special, dude. It was really special

1130
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: to be on the cover of Madden. So I just

1131
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: want to give a big shout up to John Madden

1132
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: for creating Madden and giving me the opportunity to be

1133
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: on the cover. And it was special, dude. It really

1134
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: was just just you know, it's an honor be in

1135
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: that category, you know, to be recognized like that. You know,

1136
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: that was one of the coolest things that happened to

1137
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: me while I was playing, you know, in the NFL.

1138
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: It really was hell yeah, I mean that's a huge honnor.

1139
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: And I didn't know my score, but like I remember,

1140
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 2: back when we were playing, we all looked at our score.

1141
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: I knew I was on a high ninety of some

1142
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: sort at my best, but like, that was a huge

1143
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: thing in the locker room.

1144
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you got guys that like that's all they

1145
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: care about. Now, that's all they care about, is God damn.

1146
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what was it the New York Giants they

1147
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: were or was it the Jets? They were cutting guys

1148
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: based on their Madden score.

1149
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's what they said. I mean in the

1150
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: Grand was running it.

1151
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that just shows how influential, yeah, influential,

1152
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: and how legit Madden is. Let's get ado, what kind

1153
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: of dude is John Madden. I think this one's easy easy.

1154
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's definitely a stud drafted in the

1155
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: twentieth round, maybe a freak we all see the man

1156
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 2: boobs that's out of love. Uh definitely had some dogging

1157
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: him because I've seen a mother f some people. You

1158
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: see a mother f in the old footages. He used

1159
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: to yell and he used to remember he used to

1160
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: have all those great commercials. He used to have a

1161
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: lot of great commercials. He's definitely a dude's dude. But

1162
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I think it's easy what he is. It is on

1163
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: three one two, three whiz. Why do you think he's

1164
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: a whiz.

1165
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: He's a whiz. I mean, like you said, he broadcasted

1166
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: for all you know, four of the major stations. He

1167
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: was a head coach. He was a player in just

1168
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: the way he broke down games. You gotta be a

1169
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: smart and intellectual guy in order to do that. And

1170
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: I would say that's his number one aspect of who

1171
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: he was was just his knowledge. And when you got

1172
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: that knowledge, you're a whiz.

1173
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: He literally got inside the game, as EA would say,

1174
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: because of John Matten.

1175
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,480
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00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: week's chills Dude of the Week, we're reacting to some

1186
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: of your hottest sports takes. Let everyone to it.

1187
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: Let's go Jules Gronk Sam from Northeast Ohio.

1188
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: Here.

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: My hottest sports take is this.

1190
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: The Ken State Golden Flashes football program is a million

1191
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: times better than the Arizona Tended Kittens football program, past,

1192
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: present and future. Hey, Gronk, Wildcats more like the Mildcats.

1193
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: You know what, I can't argue.

1194
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna argue, and I know you

1195
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: think that's freaking bet. I think that's one of the

1196
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: worst takes of all time going and Flashes can't even

1197
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: beat the Buffalo Bulls where I grew up right down

1198
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: the street. When when when my friend. When I got

1199
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: to Arizona, my friend Pete Binner was off into Lineman

1200
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: and he won the mac. Kent State was nowhere to

1201
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: be found, and that was in like, oh wait, you

1202
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: got that James Stark as a running back. The only

1203
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: reason why I knew about Kent State was well, once

1204
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I got to meet you, you put Ken State on

1205
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: the map. And because that was just a team, the

1206
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bulls ran over I got. I gotta give you credits.

1207
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: Fucking hot takes pretty funny. You know a comedian thinks

1208
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: he's funny. Peanut Gallery, Arizona, Timid Kittens. I mean, if

1209
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about the sority girls, and yes, he's right.

1210
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: He must have visited there and saw what it was

1211
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: all about and got caught up in that and forgot

1212
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: that we have an all right football program. He's kind

1213
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: of right in that our football program very mild. I

1214
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: think this is what he's trying to explain. Let's hear it.

1215
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: If what about our basketball program? Though? What about ours?

1216
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: We've been doing a leite eate. I mean we were

1217
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: in sixteen the last four years.

1218
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: Eight in two thousand and one, maybe three with Antonio Gates.

1219
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: But this is what he's trying to get. This is okay,

1220
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: I know I know what you Kent State in the mac.

1221
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Have you been in Kent State? Never have? All Right,

1222
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: he's been to Miami, Ohio. We did great school, great school,

1223
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: love it. Bridge can shut out the brick street, drank

1224
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: plenty of these cors lights there, and I have my

1225
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: jersey hanging up.

1226
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: Miami, Ohio is in South Ohio. We're Northeast Ohio. So

1227
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: you're right by a big ass lake called Lake Erie. Okay,

1228
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: well we just talked about Like Erie too. We just

1229
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: talked about daily City being damn gladly. Kent is probably

1230
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: cloudy here, Okay. If Kent was in the beautiful desert

1231
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: with a lot of kittens running around like you talked about,

1232
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: I think that our team would be better. So that's

1233
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: what he's trying to say. With all your facilities, the

1234
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: beauty of your campuses, the great weather that you have,

1235
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: he's basically saying, you guys have a dogshit program, because

1236
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: that if you guys were to ever come and set

1237
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: foot in Northeast Ohio, you guys should be ten times

1238
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: worse than us.

1239
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. I got no more next call.

1240
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go to Arizona for the football program. Buddy,

1241
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: just put it that way, You're like, like, we were

1242
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: three and ten. The year I committed to Arizona. It

1243
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: offers the Ohio State collap They were all top two

1244
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: in the world in college football. I went to Arizona

1245
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: not because the football program was, you know, ranked top

1246
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: ten every year. Well, I went to Kiss forty guys.

1247
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: We invented the plasma TV. Well, we have a very

1248
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: good NASA program. We send a lot of rockets to space.

1249
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: We're top five in fashion programs. We have a top

1250
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: twenty five business school that I was in. Then I

1251
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: dropped out because my brother was in and it looked

1252
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: really hard, so I dropped out to marketing and science.

1253
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: Well you're not going to beat this one. Yeah, Kent

1254
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: State on my official visit, told me we have a

1255
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: top two tasting tap water in America.

1256
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: While talking about top two tasting things, I learned what

1257
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: jungle juice was because of the University of Arizona, and

1258
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: that's a top tasting drink. Can't beat that. Next call,

1259
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: All right, I knew Arizona was.

1260
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: Better this season. Drake may will be a top five

1261
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: MVP candidates.

1262
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, these are some hot takes. That last take

1263
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: was hot. This one's even hotter breaks the breaks. Drake

1264
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: may is a great quarterback, has a good team around him. Now.

1265
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: I can see him being a top five candidate for

1266
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: MVP in the future, maybe year three, four, five or

1267
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: something along those lines. But he's not gonna be a

1268
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: top five candidate this year. I mean, Stefan Diggs a

1269
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: great you know. Addition, we still don't know how he's

1270
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: gonna be coming off the ACL so just sure looks

1271
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: great and all right now coming off the worst line

1272
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: last year. You know, new head coach with Vrabel, obviously,

1273
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: everything looks great, but to be a top five candidate

1274
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: in MVP pumped up breaks too soon, a little too soon.

1275
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: He's well on his way to becoming a good football player,

1276
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: a good quarterback. You can't throw him great yet, no,

1277
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just there's too many variables

1278
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: in this sport.

1279
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: Yes, to just have that crazy e elise.

1280
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: New offensive coordinators, so he's gonna be juggling new protections,

1281
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: new calls, new language.

1282
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: New players to get used to.

1283
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: Now, you expect Drake to be a lot better this

1284
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: year because he's got a year under his belt. He knows,

1285
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: he knows the area, he knows the team. He's a

1286
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: little more comfortable. Now it's up to him to go

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Speaker 2: out and he has to learn again. He's got to

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Speaker 2: learn a new system again, he's got to learn a

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Speaker 2: new this again. He's got to learn the new players again.

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Speaker 2: So this is all part of the process of building

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Speaker 2: this kid. But you know, let's pump the brakes. Let's

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Speaker 2: just try to make the playoffs before we talk about MVP.

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Speaker 2: Next question. I think the addition of George Pickens to

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys team is See what handedly the reason the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys will win the Super Bowl this year?

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Speaker 1: This guy has definitely drank way too many Corus lives.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's out of his mind. He's probably twenty

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Speaker 1: five beers deep. He's got to be if just the

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Speaker 1: addition of George Pickens, I mean, there's so many other

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Speaker 1: things that the Cowboys had to address, and they had

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Speaker 1: one of the worst offseasons of all time this year

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Speaker 1: that they're saying, I mean, just because you add a

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01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: talented player doesn't mean you're gonna be that much better.

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Speaker 1: They had a great wide receiver group last year and

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Speaker 1: they didn't even make the playoffs. They got worse from

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Speaker 1: the year before. But no, I don't think that makes

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Speaker 1: that a super Bowl team this year. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: The best you've gotten out of Dak Prescott is when

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Speaker 2: he's had a really good running back and he could

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Speaker 2: be a play action quarterback. I think George Pickens's gonna help.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be helped, you know, on the X he's

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Speaker 2: gonna help Ceedee Lamb who can break the intermediate part

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Speaker 2: of that coverage and you got pickings going down deep.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be able to make fifty to fifty balls.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be able to make those back shoulder catches.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when they're trying to win a game

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Speaker 2: four min an offense, they don't have a Zekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 2: They don't got one of those guys that they can

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Speaker 2: give the ball to with their new fresh offense, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. But that's when these guys were

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Speaker 2: really good and they had Zeke and they had who

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: was the guy Paullard who was playing. He really will

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: when they've had a really good running back, that's when

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 2: the Cowboys have been really good, and that's when Dak

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: has been really good.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that. So I like the addition and Joel's

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Speaker 1: Madden right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think, I think, I think Dak

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: will be able to Dak's got the personality to be

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Speaker 2: able to handle both pickings and CD because those guys,

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, those those are some those guys want the ball.

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's tough for a quarterback. But I think

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Speaker 2: if they get it, they got to get a running back.

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Speaker 2: So let's pump the brakes on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Last one. Here we go, let's here. I love these

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Speaker 1: hot takes.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers may not want to come down here. I

1338
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: don't want your ass anyway, Pale.

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 2: Whatever quarterbacks starting for the Saints throwing a thousand more

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: yards than his ass, you could print.

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Speaker 1: That all right. Well, first off, you said Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: may not want to come down here. While he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: it's not may. There's not even like our question is

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: he gonna possibly come out. He's not coming down the state.

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01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: He's too old to live in Louisiana and he's too

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 1: old to play for the saying and your hot take,

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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: whatever quarterback is starting for the Saints, if Aaron Rodgers

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: does even play this year, if he does, he may retire.

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: That's why he hasn't signed with a team. He's still contemplating.

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01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean for him. I mean, the guy deserves it.

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: He's in his forties, played this long, that start of

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01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: a player. He can do whatever he wants, take a

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: however long you want to take. But if Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: does sign with an NFL team, probably the Pittsburgh Steelers, preferably,

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01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: I prefer that as well, because it would make the

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Speaker 1: NFL that that much better and it would make that

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: fuss fun as well. He he will not throw for

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards less than the New Orleans Saints quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's more. Whoever, who's the d is the Saints quarterback?

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Speaker 1: You don't even have a quarterback. That's why you're mad.

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Swang. The guy will be too busy playing with

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01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: his dingling because that's his name.

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, Can he get him right? I mean this look,

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: you can say what you want to say about Aaron Rodgers.

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: He was looking pretty good at the back eight of

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: last year when his achilles started to feel good, you know,

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: so I'm not saying any of those.

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Speaker 1: No chance, No chance, And Rodgers is going to throw

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Speaker 1: for more yards than the New Orleans Saints quarterback if

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Speaker 1: he plays. If he decides that he wants to play

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think so. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I really do. Yeah, it

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: makes it better. Even though he even though the Jets

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: had the worst year, it made the Jets that much

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: better to talk about, to watch, even make it watchable.

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: You who have ever watched the Jets knowing it made

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01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: it watchable. All the Patriots are playing the Jets. It's

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: Rogers quarterback. Let's watch the Patriots or Jets. Aaron Rodgers

1379
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: has that, he has that it factor to bring in

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: the fans, bring in the crowd, be talked about. And

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Speaker 1: if imagine just him on the Steelers, I mean, Pittsburgh's

1382
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna be involved big time. Everyone. All the eyes are

1383
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: going to be on him in Pittsburgh. Everyone's gonna be

1384
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: a static there. The whole outside world too, is going

1385
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: to be watched.

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: And every Pittsburgh fans bitching and moaning about it. Once

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers goes there, and they may start like two

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: three and oh, they're gonna love him. If you win

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, they love you. It don't matter.

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter what you do off the field,

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: in the locker room, what you're doing while you're taking

1392
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: a dumb If you win, you're loved in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh loves you. Yeah, that's that's the goddamn truth.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like an NFL city.

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01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's like another yeah, pittsmother level. Pittsburgh loves football. Man.

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Speaker 1: All the freaking Pittsburgh people went to Kent State. So

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: I saw him. Oh I was, I was? Where was

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Speaker 1: I at the inndy five hundred? Yes, Jay, some Pittsburgh fans, Oh,

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Speaker 1: go Steelers. I said I'm made of more steel than

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Speaker 1: your old city. And they loved that, you know, I

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: was just the way I said it. And then they

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: looked at me, like, you're right, you dominated us, you

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: were made of more ste Like that's right, body, I

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01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: got him, got.

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Speaker 2: The most lovable guy. Yeah, goes and talk shit to Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Rob, you're right. You're right. Guy. Didn't argue anymore then, are?

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Speaker 1: You told them I'm manute more steel than this whole city.

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