WEBVTT - Stealing Superman: Episode Eight — Special Farewell Issue

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<v Speaker 1>Love and Las Vegas. Las Vegas, home of cheesy, magic,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate fighting, and people mortgaging their homes to let it ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a playground for adults, a disneyland of decadence. And

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<v Speaker 1>on this day in June, something even more remarkable than

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing elephants is happening. I say remarkable because it might

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the few wholesome things going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the city. It's the Las Vegas Comic Con. Thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>fans are streaming into the building to get autographs from

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<v Speaker 1>artists and pick up titles for their collections. Some are

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<v Speaker 1>browsing comic books that are a dollar or less. Some

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<v Speaker 1>are picking up titles worth a few hundred and one man,

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<v Speaker 1>one very recognizable man, is spending a lot more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Cage, once a disenfranchised comic fan, is back in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. As fans gawk and ask for his autograph,

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<v Speaker 1>Cage admires big ticket books like X Men Number one

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<v Speaker 1>and Fantastic Four number one, titles worth hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars, titles he used to own before ditching his

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<v Speaker 1>entire collection. Surrounded by tables full of books, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the world's most expensive flea market. He holds them up

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<v Speaker 1>for scrutiny, squinting to make out the pencil lines through

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<v Speaker 1>their protective plastic casing. Some sixteen years after losing four

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<v Speaker 1>of the most valuable comics in the world, Cage is

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly ready to rejoin the ranks of the comics faithful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also been five years since his most treasured book,

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<v Speaker 1>Action Comics Number One, surfaced in a storage locker. No arrests,

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<v Speaker 1>no real suspects, just a story, one pretty much impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to prove or disprove, but one worth examining to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any clue or trace of how a multimillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar comic wound up in a storage unit, the place

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<v Speaker 1>where people store old rugs and broken chairs. Two men,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Ballo, and a man known only as Sylvester, presented

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<v Speaker 1>it for sale, not knowing one of their potential buyers

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<v Speaker 1>was an undercover police officer. But just who are Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and Sylvester and why does one of them seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have an unlikely connection to Cage. It's a page turner,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are at the last page for I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Stealing Superman. I'm your host Danis Schwartz and

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<v Speaker 1>This is the final episode special farewell issue a quick recap.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cage's copy of Action Comics Number one was stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>along with three other comics from his bell Air home

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand. After several leads failed to materialize, Action

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<v Speaker 1>number one was finally discovered in April two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>when a storage unit liquidator named Mark Palelo emailed comic

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<v Speaker 1>dealer Stephen Fishler and told him he had a copy

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<v Speaker 1>for sale. Fishler was the same dealer who sold the

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<v Speaker 1>book to Cage. Unfortunately for Ballelo, he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>positively identify it as cages copy. Fishler and l ap

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<v Speaker 1>D detective Donald Harresk went to Ballelo's warehouse to see

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<v Speaker 1>it in person. There they met Ballelo and a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Sylvester, who claimed to have found the comic in

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<v Speaker 1>a storage locker he had bought at auction. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the twist, he couldn't remember which one. With nothing tying

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<v Speaker 1>either Ballelo or Sylvester to the original theft, and without

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<v Speaker 1>a storage locker owner to question, the case went cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Cage got his comic back from the insurance company and

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<v Speaker 1>sold it for two point one six one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Ballelo seemed to relish the attention, immediately notifying the

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<v Speaker 1>press about the controversy. He even hosted auctions in a

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<v Speaker 1>Superman costume Sylvester all but disappeared for the storage locker

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<v Speaker 1>scene as quickly as he had entered it. The next

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<v Speaker 1>steps seemed obvious enough. Reach out to both men and

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<v Speaker 1>see what they have to say. In the case of Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>that's unfortunately impossible, and we'll get to why in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did speak to several people who knew him

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<v Speaker 1>and worked for him, and this is where things get

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<v Speaker 1>well more interesting. He seemed fun. He seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>fun guy. Like I said, from what I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>way he treated his family that would come from Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very generous with them. I could tell he

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<v Speaker 1>loved them a lot. That's Liz. Liz worked for Mark

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years, overseeing his online sales division. She

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<v Speaker 1>got to know Mark fairly well, and while he was nice,

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<v Speaker 1>there were dimensions to him that could be unsettling. Drug

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<v Speaker 1>habits and stuff that he didn't really care to hide

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody. But he was fun to talk to. I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed having conversations with him. Yeah, No, he was he

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<v Speaker 1>had his moments. You know, because of his drug case,

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<v Speaker 1>he would get a little aggravated. But I mean, other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, I enjoyed working for him while things were good.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time Mark popped up with the action number one,

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually on probation. Mark had been arrested back

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<v Speaker 1>in December two thousand seven on three felony charges, possession

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<v Speaker 1>of the controlled substance, possession with intend to sell or distribute,

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<v Speaker 1>and sale or transport of a controlled substance. Mark denied

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<v Speaker 1>any wrongdoing and said friends had been using drugs in

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel room registered in his name. He pled guilty

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<v Speaker 1>to the last charge in two thousand nine and was

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to sixty days in jail along with three years probation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an important detail for a cup of reasons. If

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<v Speaker 1>Mark somehow knew the comic book was stolen before attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to sell it, it would be colossally silly for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved while on probation. The last thing you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do when you're being monitored for good behavior

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<v Speaker 1>is be in possession of stolen property. On the other hand, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark wasn't exactly being overly careful. In June two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>two months after trying to sell the comic, Mark was

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<v Speaker 1>in violation of his parole for possessing a firearm. Mark's

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<v Speaker 1>story was that he had found it in a storage

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<v Speaker 1>unit and was simply transporting it, but not long after,

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<v Speaker 1>he left California without approval, another parole violation that landed

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<v Speaker 1>him forty five days in jail. It's hard to know

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<v Speaker 1>to what degree Mark was involved in, well, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>alternative businesses. A report from Radar in two thousand thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>stated that Mark was sometimes high on the set of

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<v Speaker 1>Storage Wars, the A and E reality show about storage

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<v Speaker 1>locker auctions, and that he bragged he could get large

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<v Speaker 1>quantities of drugs from connections in Tijuana. But Liz isn't

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<v Speaker 1>so sure about that. I think he was just using it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he sold it. Mark could be erratic.

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<v Speaker 1>He would make very rash decisions and not think them

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<v Speaker 1>out thoroughly. And so he fired his manager, who was

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, she was there for him anytime he

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<v Speaker 1>needed her, and he decided to fire her. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what it was for. And then her husband also

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<v Speaker 1>worked for him as well, and he fired him too,

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<v Speaker 1>And then he fired me shortly after that. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>were other employees that he would get into arguments with,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he took his employees very seriously

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<v Speaker 1>or he cared to have like a good relationship with us.

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<v Speaker 1>There were other aspects of Mark's life that didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>add up. Before becoming a storage unit magnate, he had

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<v Speaker 1>declared bankruptcy back in two thousand eight. Mark's bankruptcy documents

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<v Speaker 1>also revealed that two people filed to oppose his debts

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<v Speaker 1>to them being discharged because they were owed money for

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<v Speaker 1>new cars he had failed to deliver. Prior to getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the storage unit business, Mark owned a car dealership.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the two customers, he had accepted their orders

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<v Speaker 1>for cars with a value of over forty dollars each.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Mark later admitted he had used that money to

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<v Speaker 1>pay down other debts. Despite offering excuse after excuse that

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<v Speaker 1>the cars were stuck in transit or that their registration

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<v Speaker 1>needed more paperwork, he had never actually obtained the cars.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something else we learned to Prior to owning his dealership,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark worked Beverly Hills as a car salesman, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to an employee of his, we spoke with Mark had

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<v Speaker 1>sold at least one car to none other than Nicholas Cage.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's just a coincidence. After all, Cage used to

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<v Speaker 1>buy cars like other people buy socks, so there was

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<v Speaker 1>a decent chance any salesman in Los Angeles could have

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<v Speaker 1>eventually crossed paths with him. And there's no evidence Mark

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<v Speaker 1>new Cage or was ever at his house in bel Air.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we are reasonably confident we can place Mark

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<v Speaker 1>firmly in Arizona at the time of the theft. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is interesting that Mark called Stephen Fishler, the one

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<v Speaker 1>dealer who could positively identify the comic as Cages. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another weird coincidence. Stephen believes it's because he brokered other

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<v Speaker 1>high dollar comic sales, and that's probably why Mark called him.

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<v Speaker 1>There are plenty of mysteries surrounding Mark that would make

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<v Speaker 1>for an interesting conversation with him. But Mark had problems

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<v Speaker 1>that ran deep. In February, he was arrested again for

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<v Speaker 1>drug possession for Math. The repeated offenses were piling up

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<v Speaker 1>and things didn't look good for him. That same month,

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<v Speaker 1>an employee of Marks walked into the warehouse, the same

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse where he tried to sell the Action number one

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<v Speaker 1>and found Mark dead by suicide, his car engine idling

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage. It was carbon monoxide poisoning. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just forty years old. He just seemed like a fun guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would have never in a million

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<v Speaker 1>years thought that he would kill himself the way he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never thought that. We're left with so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions and so few answers. But remember fell auctioneer

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Dotson said he'd been approached by the man who

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<v Speaker 1>found the comic book and gave him Mark's information. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>didn't volunteer. So what about the man who had handed

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<v Speaker 1>Mark the comic and said he found it in a

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<v Speaker 1>storage locker. The man known only as Sylvester, the man

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<v Speaker 1>who said he bought in the story junits that he purchased.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's asking everyone to believe a multi million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>said the main comics stolen from Nicholas Cage ends up

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<v Speaker 1>in the storage locker, that this man just hast bide.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Paul Hendry, you probably remember Paul, reformed art thief

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<v Speaker 1>turned consultant for art crime investigations. Paul has seen and

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<v Speaker 1>heard it all, and he has an opinion on the

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<v Speaker 1>storage locker story, the one where Sylvester claimed he bought

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<v Speaker 1>a number of lockers and then found the action number

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<v Speaker 1>one among their contents, but he couldn't remember which one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is. Watched the odds you're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>a multimillion dollar comics in a storage locker? Best the

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<v Speaker 1>first one. The second one is, what's the odds is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who buys multiple storage lockers, not one single one?

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<v Speaker 1>And the third thing is, watch the odds they can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember which storage locker it came in, so that there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many red flames. I think we can just dismiss

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<v Speaker 1>the storage locker story as just a fake, fabricated story.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the luxury, but just us him my forty

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<v Speaker 1>years of experience and analyzing the situation and coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with what my considered opinion is highly valuable items have

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<v Speaker 1>turned up in some very unlikely places, including storage lockers,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they do, there's always a chance that their

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<v Speaker 1>discovery could have been orchestrated. Why one part sable motive

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<v Speaker 1>for stolen art servicing isn't to sell it, it's to

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<v Speaker 1>get a reward for it. Well, let me tell you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if a private art detective was on this case, he

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<v Speaker 1>would charge the insurance company twenty class fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance claim, which would have been if we assume it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred fifty tho and he would have wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty thou dollars per insurance claim. He would have

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<v Speaker 1>wanted thirty six thousand dollars as his fee for being

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<v Speaker 1>a private art detective who recovered this comic, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's worth and sold the two point one million.

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<v Speaker 1>Some art detectives would also sign a contract to say

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<v Speaker 1>that they want ten or twenty if it's sold within

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<v Speaker 1>a period of time. So on two point one million,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been a lot of money. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>that would be private art detectives. And I criticized them

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when they do that because that doesn't look to

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<v Speaker 1>be transparent. But these people who recovered it, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have assumed that they wouldn't have gone away quietly. Is

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<v Speaker 1>especially if they are not being in dieted on any

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<v Speaker 1>criminal charges. They may have a claim for a finder's fee.

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<v Speaker 1>So is that why Mark Balelo called Stephen Fishler not

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<v Speaker 1>as a coincidence, but to prove it was Cage's comic.

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<v Speaker 1>To pursue some kind of reward. That's Paul's theory, and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean either Mark or Sylvester had anything to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the book being stolen, just that some research

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<v Speaker 1>could have led Mark to believe this book found in

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<v Speaker 1>a storage unit could be worth a finder's fee. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Paul's possible scenario. They were prepared for it to be identified,

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<v Speaker 1>but wanted to portray themselves Sylvester as being honest and

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<v Speaker 1>above board. That was the intention, was to filter into

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<v Speaker 1>Nicolas Cages Deana via a third party file wall, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Mark, and then that's a plain. So then when

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<v Speaker 1>the dealer comes out and says this is the one,

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<v Speaker 1>then they may not have thought Donald would be cop

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<v Speaker 1>would have been there, but that the next thing would

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<v Speaker 1>have been if they hadn't have had it confiscated off

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<v Speaker 1>of them, then there might have been a legal dispute

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have still had possession of it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't account for the fact that Donald was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there and confiscate it, but even if that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>their whole intention was to monetize it and claim my

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<v Speaker 1>finder's fee or a reward. So they knew at some

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<v Speaker 1>stage that they was going to have to be declared

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<v Speaker 1>that this was the sole a month from Nicolas Cage.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the initial plan was to have the dealer look

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<v Speaker 1>at it and go, yes, that's the original I wanted back.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the person go well, no, ang and speak

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<v Speaker 1>to my lawyer and maybe getting to litigation over it

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and declared they want to find this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when Donald turned up and dis confiscated it,

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<v Speaker 1>they went, well, we can still go down the same

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<v Speaker 1>road and claim the finders feel again. That's Paul's theory.

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<v Speaker 1>And for Paul, the most intriguing part of the story

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<v Speaker 1>is that of all the commock dealers in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark could have called he called Stephen Fishler literally the

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<v Speaker 1>only person on earth who could positively identify the action

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<v Speaker 1>number one as cages. This Mark person, right, why would

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<v Speaker 1>he focus in on the one avenue that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>lead straight back to Nicolas Cage. Why not take a

0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.639
<v Speaker 1>local estimate, right, He's part of a plane. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a plane, it's a scan, it was a sting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing to monetize the Superman comic. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make it so confusing that the police wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pin it on anyone. But yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is such a small world. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through Nicolas Cage stealer in New York, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be made aware of it. Yes again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean their story. He's like a Swiss change. It's

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<v Speaker 1>for the holes. Cages comic sold for two point one

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<v Speaker 1>six one million dollars just a few months after it

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<v Speaker 1>was found, making even a percentage of that a very valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>But Stephen Fishler, who was there when the l a

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<v Speaker 1>p d. Sees the comic from Mark and Sylvester, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what happened. Here's Stephen. No, there was a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to sell it and it was a stolen book.

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<v Speaker 1>When y've gone, all right, we want a million dollars. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, this book stolen, it's a little hard

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<v Speaker 1>while the police is there to go, hey, how about

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<v Speaker 1>a reward now? You know, I think if they had

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<v Speaker 1>said we think this book is the stolen book, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see giving them a reward for the recovery

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But it just wasn't in the cards. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a real mystique surrounding Sylvester. For one thing. Stephen remembers

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<v Speaker 1>that he introduced himself as Arthur, and Mark Ballelo told

0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.080
<v Speaker 1>people that Sylvester only went by his first name. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>said he didn't even know Sylvester's last name, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very strange. If you were planning to split the profits

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<v Speaker 1>from a multimillion dollar comic with someone, wouldn't you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know their last name. Few people did, and maybe

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that was by design, but at some point his full

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.879
<v Speaker 1>name did leak out, which allowed us to try and

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<v Speaker 1>get a better understanding of the man at the crux

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.399
<v Speaker 1>of all this, the person who found Cages comic after

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<v Speaker 1>it had been missing eleven years. Sylvester doesn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of a social media presence, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you he is or was a contractor by

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<v Speaker 1>trade and no longer living in California. He's into cars,

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<v Speaker 1>as so many of the people in this story seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. We reached a former employer of his who

0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.479
<v Speaker 1>said he was a nice guy who wound up quitting.

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<v Speaker 1>The employer thought it might have been because of the comic,

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<v Speaker 1>because he expected to come into a windfall. Despite his

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<v Speaker 1>lack of an online presence, and after a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>trial and error, we did manage to find Sylvester we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask about finding the comic, but within minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of messaging him, he deleted his social media profile. So

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we tried email and got no response. Then we reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to some friends of his to see what else

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<v Speaker 1>we might be able to learn or to find out

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<v Speaker 1>how we could contact him. That's when Sylvester asked for

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<v Speaker 1>our reporter's number and then sent a text saying he

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<v Speaker 1>did not want to talk about finding the comic. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked again and again, as much as we'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Sylvester. He apparently said all he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say to Detective Horresik on the day the comic was seized.

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<v Speaker 1>The story he told the detective is certainly intriguing. According

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<v Speaker 1>to people we spoke with who have knowledge of the

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<v Speaker 1>storage locker liquidation market, taking the contents from a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of lockers and pulling it all together to sort through

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<v Speaker 1>later isn't unheard of. With storage auctions, you're given only

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<v Speaker 1>a limited amount of time to clear out the unit,

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>after all, that's why the locker company wants stuff gone

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so they can rent it out to someone else. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have just twenty four or forty eight hours, so

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>piling everything into a truck to sort through later. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've bought several units, might be wise. Here's Liz again.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just so much stuff there to look through. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to keep track of it, especially when you're just

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<v Speaker 1>looking through everything and everything just kind of gets bunched

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<v Speaker 1>into one place. But the opposite is also true. Some

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>locker storage buyers keep a strict inventory of where items

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<v Speaker 1>came from in case something stolen or illegal like drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>are ever discovered. They don't want to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>suspected of possessing them. The other consideration is whether anyone

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<v Speaker 1>really would leave a rare and delicate comic in a

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<v Speaker 1>storage locker and then neglect to pay the bill. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. Sometimes lockers are abandoned because the person renting

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>it dies or goes to prison. If a storage locker

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.919
<v Speaker 1>owner was storing the comic there, then it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of inquiring to the owner whether they knew

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the comic. But the problem the storage facility had,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason they put the lockers up for public sale,

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is that their owners weren't easily reached and couldn't pay

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the bill. Because Sylvester couldn't remember which locker the comic

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.239
<v Speaker 1>came from. There wouldn't be much use in trying to

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>contact them. You could never prove it was theirs to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with. I think as we've gone through the whole story,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is a Russian dole. You know, you're only

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<v Speaker 1>more and more layers. You're peeling back the onion and

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<v Speaker 1>every kind of stop. There is something there that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>smell right, It doesn't taste right, and doesn't look right.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the normal world of things, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>normally what would happen, from the theft of it, to

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<v Speaker 1>the handling of it, to the surfacing of Chiu of

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the comics. But knowing who put the comic in the

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 1>storage locker would still only tell just part of the story.

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Art theft is one giant game of hot potato. The

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<v Speaker 1>more hands the stolen art passes through, the more convincing

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>someone is when they say they have no idea where

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it came from, because they probably don't. And every time

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<v Speaker 1>it changes hands, someone is sold on the fantasy that

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<v Speaker 1>for just a few thousand dollars they can take possession

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of something worth millions. It's almost like a criminal lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>If they can just figure out how to unload it

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and then well they can't, so they sell the dream

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<v Speaker 1>to someone else. There's no evidence Mark Ballelo or Sylvester

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<v Speaker 1>knew anything about the Action Number one being stolen. There's

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>no evidence the storage locker story was fabricated. There are

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<v Speaker 1>just questions which one man can't answer and another man won't,

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and that is his prerogative. It doesn't invalidate his story

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that he found the comic. Maybe the reason he doesn't

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about it is because watching two million

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars slip through your hands is too painful to revisit. However,

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>cages comic made its way to Mark Balleto and Sylvester.

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a minor miracle it's surfaced at all. Cage, of

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>course sold it for a handsome profit. But there's still

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>one act left untold in this story. Where is the

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<v Speaker 1>Action Number one? Now? Just a couple of months before

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Cage popped up at the Las Vegas Comic Con

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<v Speaker 1>is now very notor his comic book was on display

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<v Speaker 1>in London, but it wasn't for public viewing. This was

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a private, invitation only affair at a hotel in the city.

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Five years after being discovered in the storage locker. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the best copies of Action comics. Number one was

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<v Speaker 1>inside a glass case and surrounded by security, just in

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<v Speaker 1>case anyone had any ideas The comic was part of

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a collection being displayed courtesy of a man named Aman Harreary.

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<v Speaker 1>A man is a very big Superman fan, though not

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<v Speaker 1>for the reasons you may think. Here's a man. Superman

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<v Speaker 1>was always part of me growing up. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>was a character that I used to watch on cartoons,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously, like every other kid, that captures your imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>To imagine a person who can fly and be invulnerable

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to you know, being shot at or any kind of danger,

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<v Speaker 1>it just sparks the imagination of all kinds of stories

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you build in your head and you imagine all the

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>things that he can do. Even back then. I mean

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>at the time it was, you know, faster than a

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<v Speaker 1>speeding train and can leap tall buildings into you know,

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>the modern version of what he can do these days.

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But I was living in Saudi at the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>the only way that I was exposed to Superman was

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<v Speaker 1>on VHS tapes that would be made available to us

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<v Speaker 1>by people from living abroad and sending them to us

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<v Speaker 1>or receiving a copy of a comic book. Well, I

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think when you're younger, things are less granular. You think

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<v Speaker 1>about doing the right thing. What does it mean as

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>an adult, and what does it mean as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably lacks granularity when you're a child, and you

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<v Speaker 1>start to understand the nuances of doing the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>as you get older. I would say that being a

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<v Speaker 1>hero was what I would imagine. What I remember thinking

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of this character and what he would do, and if

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you put together any kind of scenario and he saw

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody in danger, that he would do anything and everything

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to save that person, he would save the day and

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<v Speaker 1>be a hero. It's not uncommon to grow up with

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Superman and then want to own a piece of his legend.

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>After all, that's what Nicolas Cage did. But a man

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is in a slightly different category. He's a fan, sure,

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but he's also a billionaire and the son of Lebanon's

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>one time prime minister, Rafi careery Eman idolized his father, Rafiq,

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<v Speaker 1>who was celebrated in Lebanon for his work helping to

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<v Speaker 1>end the fifteen year Lebanese Civil War. He also used

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>his considerable wealth to provide educational opportunities for the less fortunate.

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>According to Amon, his father put third two thousand young

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>adults through college. Then in two thousand five, tragedy struck,

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<v Speaker 1>a tragedy that in some ways echoes the loss suffered

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>by Superman's co creator Jerry Siegel, who lost his father

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to a violent crime. Rafiq died in Beirut after someone

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>detonated a bomb hidden in a car near Rafique's motorcade.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Along with Rafique, twenty one others were killed. Members of

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>his Bola were convicted. According to Reuter's, judges said the

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>attack was quote clearly a politically motivated act of terrorism

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>end quote. Aman was just twenty six years old when

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>his father was murdered, and as you probably gathered, it

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>was a galvanizing experience for him. He has always been

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my hero. He's somebody who had sacrificed so much of

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>his life for his country, for people in need, and

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>ended up paying the ultimate price. But during his life,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and when I would think of Superman and I would

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>think of my father, there was always yes this connection

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>between them, and I didn't really put them together until

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I visited my family home after many years of being

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>away in school abroad and university in the US. When

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I came back home, I saw this picture hanging on

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>my bedroom wall of him represented a superman carrying buildings

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>in his arms. The buildings were universities and schools and

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>hospitals above a destroyed city underneath him. And it was

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon that was drawn by you know the cartoons

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that used to be in the back of newspapers. This

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>was from a local newspaper in Lebanon, and it was

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>an artist that had depicted my father a superman. And

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously that's really on the nose that can ingrain itself

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and you completely forget about where things originate from. But

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it was depicted by

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, and he was regarded as a hero and

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>still is by his country. I actually in his life

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>when I started to buy comic books and collect them,

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the original comic books, you know, graded and I work

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<v Speaker 1>with I think, you know, the Metropolis out of New

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>York to collect these looks. I remember that I couldn't

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>get myself to buy a single Superman book. That I

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>felt like I hadn't reached that level yet, And I

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>always would think of Batman is more sort of where

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I was and the Superman where I want to be

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>aspiration Lee. And when my father passed, that's when I

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>started buying every Superman comic book that I could get

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>my hands on. For Aman, Superman and his father had

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>become linked. The character was emblematic of how he perceived

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>her fik as benevolent, kind and generous with his own superpower,

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>which was wealth. He was always one of my favorite characters,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. I mean when I buy statues

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>or if I could watch a movie or or anything,

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I was into the character. But yes, at that point,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess the floodgates opened and I needed

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to I mean, obviously I missed my father and it

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was the most horrible day of my life when he

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was taken from us, and I wanted to be connected

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to him even more in the way that I imagined him.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, buying these books was a way

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of me doing that. It's always been there. I mean,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>certainly Superman has played a big role in my life,

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>just in the back of my mind. Like a lot

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of people, you grow up with these characters in your

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>life in one form or fashion, and you either grow

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>out of them, they become a memory or they they

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>stick with you in some form or fashion. And so

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a Man began to gather what's become one of the

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>most valuable and expansive comic book collections in the world.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Issue after issue of number one titles Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>He worked with Stephen Fishler Cages Comic Dealer, and in

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven he had the rare opportunity to acquire

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>an Action number one Cages Action Number one. Yeah, I mean,

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm made aware of the opportunity, and I was obviously

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>excited and did my best to get the book and

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>ultimately got it, which was one of the major thrill

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because again, you look at the significance of Action one,

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean Action one. Before Action one, the day or

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the morning or the hour before those stores opened and

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>people entered to see that book and start reading them.

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>There was no Superman, there was no Superhero, and it

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was the first. He was the first superhero. The significance

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 1>of that is amazing to me when you even think

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>about that, Like, we can't even imagine without the idea

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of Superman or any of these characters. For amen, The

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>fact that this comic had its own story to tell

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>is part of the appeal. Absolutely, yeah, anything that has

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a history, and certainly when it goes through certain circumstances

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like this one has. You're right, it does develop a character.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Amen put the Action Number One, along with many other

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>valuable books on display in two thousand sixteen. There's even

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a chance, he says, that his collection may go on

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>public display, bringing comics one step closer to the vaunted

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>esteem people hold for fine art. Imagine going into a

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>museum and seeing an Action Number one on display in

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>one room and a monet in another. I'm not worrying

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>about how do you display them, and how do you

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>keep them safe? And where would you do it and

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>what kind of an experience would people have that With

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>all the things that I got pulled into in life,

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it got really hard to focus on that and execute

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>that project. It is in the back of my mind.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to do it in one form or fashion.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's a digital version that could be done, you know,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>something with VR or a R or something. But you

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>could say we'll just display two or three books. But

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be cool to display as many

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>as I could. I haven't really figured out a way

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to do it, whether that happens or not, it seems

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>as though this comics journey has come to an end.

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Though he could almost certainly sell it for far more

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>than the two point one six one million dollars that

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>he paid in two thousand eleven, he won't ever. I mean,

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>my whole planning of this is I would never sell

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>these books. It would have to be my kids that

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>would decide to sell them if they would want to.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>One day, when I'm gone wherever this book might have

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>been in the eleven years it was missing in a

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>basement attic storage locker glove compartment. It's probably as safe

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>as it's ever going to be. And if Cage ever

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to take another look at it, he probably just

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>needs to ask. I'm a fan of him as an actor,

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and I would love to to meet him and and

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>geek out on comic books, and you know, maybe we

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>can look at this stuff together. But no, I haven't.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had that that experience. And in the incredibly

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>unlikely event something happened to this action Number one, well

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Amen is prepared. In two thousand fourteen, he bought a

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>second copy. Yeah, that's right before I own a nine

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:42.919
<v Speaker 1>point oh graded copy. And when another nine point oh

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>came onto the market. It's like, Okay, this is an

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting situation because, on the one hand, from like an

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>emotional standpoint, I felt it would be phenomenal to be

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>able to have two of these books if I was

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>able to buy it. So, just in terms of being

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>able to have in one collection two books of that

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>level and everything that I said about how did they

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>survive and all of that, I mean, to have two

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>of them in a single collection was something very very

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>exciting to me, And so I bought the second one

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>for that reason. And I was really really fortunate to

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>be in a position to be able to, you know,

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>one afford it, and second have the opportunity even to

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>be aware of it and be able to buy it.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>This book shouldn't exist. Not only shouldn't it not exist,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>but it shouldn't be able to to find it, let

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>alone find it. In the state that it's in. It's

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>almost a superman in and of itself. How does it exist?

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Amid a volatile economy turned upside down by a pandemic,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 1>there's been one pretty reliable investment collectibles. Comic book values

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>have skyrocketed in recent years. A comic selling for millions

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>is no longer a seismic event, but the norm the

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars Nicolas Cage paid for his

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>copy of Action number one back in was if you'll

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>forgive the pun In absolute steal, Action number one is

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>so desired that even a single loose page from it

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>can sell for thousands of dollars. Brittle shavings of pages

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>from a nearly ruined version were sold in a baggy.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe someday someone will offer a loan. Staple they insist

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>is from an Action number one, and if their story

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>is good enough, it'll probably find a buyer. In September

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand twenty two, a copy graded six point oh

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a good amount below the nine given to cages

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>copy sold for a staggering three point four million dollars.

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>A higher grade copy coming up for sale could fetch five, six,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe seven million dollars. That figure would have been impossible

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>for the thief or thieves who took Cage's book to

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>conceive of. It was an audacious heist, taking four high

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>profile comics from an A list actor's home. It was

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>almost certainly done for profit, as indicated by one of

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the comics popping up for sale on eBay months later.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>A crime of opportunity inflicted by someone on the periphery

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of Cage's life, someone who couldn't resist the temptation of

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>stealing a small piece of history that was there for

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the taking, unlocked and unguarded. That it was stolen. Isn't surprising.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was inevitable. Maybe someone will come clean one day,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe someone already has. Though if Cage knows, he's not talking.

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we wanted to ask about it, but his

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>manager politely declined. That's easy to understand unless it was

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 1>a transient worker, someone there to deliver booze or set

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>up one of Cage's oversized nutcrackers for a holiday party.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>The person who took the books was known to him,

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>considered a friend, or at least trustworthy enough to be

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 1>let into his house, and having that trust betrayed is disillusioning.

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Two of the four books taken are still at large,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>still filed in the FBI's database of Stolen art, A

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Detective Comics Number twenty seven, the first appearance of Batman,

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and A Detective Comics Number one. It's possible they were

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>sold in a private transaction, but remember that cages dealer

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Fishler is often a conduit for big comics sales.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>It would be hard to sell the books without him

0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>hearing about it eventually, and he hasn't not yet. And

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>if they did surface, Stephen says he could identify them

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just as he did Cages Action number one. So maybe

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>they've been destroyed, or maybe they're still out there somewhere

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>their handler in a kind of paralysis. Selling them is risky,

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>so is keeping them. Maybe they're in another country, maybe

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they were altered in a way that makes them undetectable.

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's Paul Hendry again, sixty and seventy pages. Okay, Well,

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they could take off the first tem page. They could

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>sell probably pages right as just being discovered in a

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>yard sale or something like that. Or they could find

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a half of the book right, or just the middle

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>section of the comic had been discovered, and so the

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 1>backpages and all the front pages have been raised it out,

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe stores separately they just sell the actual

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>in between the middle bits, and then it will be

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>virtually impossible to distinguish whether this actually was the one

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>style an off a Nicolas page, unless, of course, there's

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>something that could distinguish it on each page, or you

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>could see different pages, because I'm sure that the collectors

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>will buy a page from that for obviously a lot less,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>but a page of it should certainly be worth a

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>few thousand dollars, maybe ten thousand dollars. While those books

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>are valuable, the public interest in their recovery probably won't

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>equal the discovery of an Action number one. Superman's status

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>as a defender of justice, his earnestness will always make

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>someone pufferring his first appearance a strange juxtaposition. It's like

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 1>stealing a boy Scout, Marra badge or a Norman Rockwell painting.

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And while you might be able to swipe a material

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>depiction of Superman, you can't really take his symbolism. More

0:41:55.719 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>than any cultural character, Superman has come to embody oh

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>many things. He's the ultimate immigrant, a savior, the zenith

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>of patriotism, truth, justice, and the American way. Steal his

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>material form, but you can't steal what he stands for.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>No one can take what Superman means to you, or

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to aim and her Reary or Nicholas Cage. It's possible,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>even probable, that Action Comics Number one will enter the

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:35.919
<v Speaker 1>public domain on January one, two thousand thirty four, that's

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 1>when the year limit un copyrighted materials will expire. That

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean all of Superman's mythology will be up for grabs,

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>as much of it, like Kryptonite or even flying, was

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>introduced later, and trademark lawyers may have something to say

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>about all this, But the basic premise of an alien

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>from another planet with superhuman gifts and red boots could

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:06.919
<v Speaker 1>soon belong to everyone, and who knows, maybe by then

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll know the secret identity of the person who stole him.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And if it's an arch deitective who gets a lead

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on them, trust me, they will be demanding of their

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>current value, not of the insurance value. The current value,

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>because on paper it's no longer a theft where the

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>insurance company owns them. They paid out originally, But I

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>would imagine Nicholas Cage has paid the whole claim back

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and so he now not only has two back in

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>his possession. If the other two were recovered, he gets

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>them back as well, and they're worth millions of dollars.

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I mean to be honest with you, it's

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>a chase on right to see who can monetize these comics,

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's why the situation that we're in at the

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>moment cagees flying higher again. His recent meta comedy The

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, where he plays an exaggerated

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>version of himself, was critically praised. He's playing Dracula in

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 1>a movie titled Renfield, about the vampires faithful sidekick. There

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was even talk he was being considered to play Bizarro,

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the slightly off kilter version of Superman, for an HBO

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Max anthology series based on d C comics, and one

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>day maybe he'll be reunited with the two missing comics.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 1>For now, the most remarkable book the Action Comics, Number

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 1>one is with a Man and you look at where

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you know movies have gone. All movies are pretty much

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>superhero movies. Every TV show is somebody has powers of

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>some sort. And it all started from I believe that book,

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and it sparked the imagination of generations to come after

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>that and now shaped industries and ways of thinking and

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<v Speaker 1>what are ideals and just storytelling in general. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love that, And it feels like by owning a book

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<v Speaker 1>like that, to you owning a not only a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of history, but something that represents a moment in time

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<v Speaker 1>that then had a significant impact on everything to come

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<v Speaker 1>after that. Maybe that's what the thief was after, not money,

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<v Speaker 1>not reward, but the chance for a moment to feel

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<v Speaker 1>history in their hands. This has been Stealing Superman for

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio. I'm Danish Wartz. Thanks for listening. Stealing

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<v Speaker 1>Superman is written by Jake Rawson, sound design, scoring and

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<v Speaker 1>mixing by Josh Fisher, additional editing by Jonathan Washington. Original

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<v Speaker 1>music by Aaron Kaufman, mixing and mastering by Baheed Fraser.

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<v Speaker 1>Research and fact checking by Jake Rawson and Austin Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>with production support from Lulu Philip. Show logo by Lucy Continia.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producer is Jason English and I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Danish Sports. If you're interested in more from me, I

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<v Speaker 1>host the weekly history podcast Noble Blood, available every Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I also hosted the eight part mini series Haileywood, about

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis's mysterious business dealings in a town in Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a novel called Anatomy a Love Story, and

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<v Speaker 1>its sequel, Immortality a Love Story, which is available for

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<v Speaker 1>pre order now coming out February. If you're enjoying this show,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a nice review. Stealing Superman is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio