1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: It's subjective. You can choose whoever you want to choose 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: based on the criteria. Most valuable means different things to 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: different people. Welcome everyone to the early week edition of 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Bear Territs. Where usually we go on Mondays, this week 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: we're going on Tuesdays. Dude to some scheduling conflicts. But 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: I'm glad we waited today because we got finally the 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Phillies clinch first NL East title since twenty eleven. How 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: about that. They've been a powerhouse for the last several years, 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: but they had not won a division title. And what 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I wrote about in the wind up today and congratulations 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: to the Phillies by the way, is that they're in 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: a different position or will be in a different position 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: this postseason then they've been in in recent postseasons. Remember 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: the last two years, what do they do? They upset 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: the Braves in the Division Series as a wildcard team. Yes, 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: that is where they were. They were not the division champions. 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: They benefited from playing in the Wildcard Series and then 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: carrying their momentum through the DS. This year, let's look 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: at the best records in the National League. They are 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: likely to get one of the two buys. The only 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: remaining question really with the Phillies is can they overtake 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers for best record? And you see right there, 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have a half game lead on the Phillies. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: They're ninety three and sixty three. Phillies are half game 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: back with one more loss. The Brewers are four games 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: in back of the Dodgers. Remaining schedules Dodgers three against 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the Padres for potentially the NL West title that is 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: still somewhat up for grabs, three at Arizona, and then 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: the Phillies two more against the Cubs, three at Washington, 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: the Brewers three at Pittsburgh, three against the Mets in 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a series that could have implications for the Mets or 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: might not, depending upon how that series goes this week, 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: the big one in Atlanta between the Mets in Atlanta 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: that likely will go a long way toward deciding the 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: NL Wildcard for the Phillies. And I talked about this 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: on the Fox broadcast last Thursday. They're in this different 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: position and going back to spring training, and I described 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: it on the broadcast as one of my most vivid 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: memories of the season, and it was I was inside 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: the Phillies clubhouse and Brian Sticker's comments about the five 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: day layoff before the Division Series had just come out. Snicker, 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: the Braves manager, said basically he doesn't like the system, 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: that he feels it's difficult to hit velocity after that 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: kind of break, and that the buy teams essentially were disadvantaged. 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: The Phillies in that clubhouse that day, five or six 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: gathered around talking about this, took great exception. They took umbrage. 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: They were ticked off by these comments because they felt, 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: one they felt that Snicker was making excuses, and two 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: they felt he was demeaning their accomplishments. They're upsets of 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: the Braves in the last two Division series. Well, the 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Phillies now will be in the position the Braves were 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: these past two years. Barring some kind of crazy set 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: of circumstances over the next few days, and it's not 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: going to happen. They're going to be one of the 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: two buy teams. The buye teams most likely will be 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and Phillies in the National League and the 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Yankees and Guardians in the American League. The Phillies are 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: going to get the rest that they need and Rob 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Thompson a few days ago said, yes, we want the 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: rest guys are banged up, we'll figure out how to 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: stay sharp, figure out through simulated games or whatever, how 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to go about this so that we don't suffer the 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: same fate that some of these teams have in the 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: last two years. Remember, in twenty twenty two, first year 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: of this system, two of the four teams with the 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: buyers were upset. Last year, in the second year of 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: the system, three of the four teams were upset. So 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: this is going to be really interesting to see if 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: it changes this year, if the buye teams somehow have 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: figured out a better way to prepare. Only the Astros 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: last year of the buye teams got out of the 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Division series, So this will be a test for the Phillies, 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: a different kind of test. But again, they are the 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: division champions for the first time in thirteen years. It's 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: a tremendous accomplishment. They are a team that I believe 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: can really go through this thing in a good way. 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: They have a chance to do some special things this postseason. 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: They have talked all year about learning from last year 79 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and how they fell apart offensively in their last three 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: games against the Diamondbacks in the NLCS that has given 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: them a special motivation. They have, as we've discussed, a 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: certain edge about them, and they've got the pitching perhaps 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: one of the best rotations, not even perhaps one of 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: the best rotations you will see in the postseason Wheeler 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and Nola and Christopher Sanchez and in an NLCS type situation, 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: or even maybe the DS Rangers Suarez. So the Phillies 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: are set. Their offense, maybe not as good as the Dodgers, 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: but certainly good. They're bullpen really good, especially after the 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: trade deadline when Dobrowski subtracted Dominguez and Soto and added 90 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: as Steves and Banks. So congrats again to the Phillies 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty four National League East champions. Subscribe to 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: The Phillies Show on YouTube, Apple, Spotify and wherever you 93 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. The latest episode is out now. Todds Aluki, 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: Jim Salisbury and Ruben Amarraw Junior react to the Phillies 95 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: clinching the nl East. Rate The Philly Show and the 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: entire Foul Territory Network and give it five stars now. 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Also this week, I want to talk about something I 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: started talking about a week ago. Apologize for in the 99 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Thursday show last week with Alana Rizzo, and I want 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: to expand the apology even further because my comments from 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: a week ago are looking more ridiculous by the minute. 102 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Let's go back to what I said last Monday, eight 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: days ago. Things are winding down and we don't really 104 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of great races. Barring some collapses, we're 105 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: not going to really have any races at all but 106 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: one in the American League. It looks like it's pretty 107 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: much said. I know the Tigers are making a run. 108 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: They're thirty eight and twenty five since July, fourth best 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: record in the AL. But it looks like it's going 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: to be Baltimore. It's going to be KC and Minnesota. 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: The key phrase there was barring some collapses. We've had 112 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: some collapses. The Royals have collapsed, the Twins have collapsed. 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Let's look at the standings right now, because they're a 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 1: lot different than they were a week ago or even 115 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: five days ago. Here they are, folks. Baltimore is still 116 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the commanding lead for the top wildcard spot. Detroit and 117 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City are tied for the second wildcard. Minnesota just 118 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: to gain back Seattle a game and a half back. Now, 119 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: why has this happened. Well, it's happened in part because 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Detroit has continued to play great. Seattle has come on 121 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, even after that crazy series against the 122 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Yankees that did not go so well for them. And 123 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: it's happened because the Royals and have done what I 124 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: thought they wouldn't necessarily do, and that has collapsed. They 125 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: have collapsed. Let me tell you why. The Royals sixteen 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: of twenty three. They've lost sixteen of twenty three, including 127 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: seven straight. During that twenty three game span in which 128 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: they've won only seven times, they've averaged only about three 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: runs per game, just slightly above the Twins. Even worse, 130 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: they've lost twenty two of thirty three. They've lost eleven 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: of sixteen. They've been trying to pull this off, really 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: with three rookie starting pitchers and a depleted bullpen, and 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: it's not going all that well, even with Korea and 134 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Buxton back. So we have over these next six days 135 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: a very exciting end of the season in the American 136 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: League Wild card race. It's going to be insane. Now. 137 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: The Mariners still stand an uphill fight because it's a 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: game and a half. They have one fewer game to play, 139 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: and they essentially have to jump over two teams because 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: they are trailing the Tigers, the Twins, and the Royals. Okay, 141 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: but that said, I'm not gonna make any predictions here. 142 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I think I should be done making predictions. Let's look 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: at the remaining schedules for these teams and you'll see 144 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: perhaps why Detroit has the edge, at least when the 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: schedule is concerned. All right, Kansas City three at Washington, 146 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: three at Atlanta, so they'll be on the road entirely. 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: Detroit three versus Tampa Bay that's a home and then 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: three versus the White Sox, also at home. I'll discuss 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: the White Sox in one second. Twins three versus Miami 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: at home, three versus Baltimore, so they two, like the Tigers, 151 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: are entirely home, and the Mariners two at Houston and 152 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the three at home to close the season against Oakland. 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: So why does Detroit have the edge here? Well, I 154 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: generally don't put too much emphasis on trent of schedule 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: because crazy things happen. The White Sox even won some 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: games last week. But in the American League Central, the 157 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: schedule does matter. The Twins and the Royals both this 158 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: season are twelve and one against the White Sox twelve 159 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: and one Twins and Royals, and in each case that 160 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: is the record that takes them over five hundred. They 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be over five hundred if not for playing the 162 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: White Sox. In the case of the Tigers, they are 163 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: nine and one against the White Sox, with a chance 164 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: to go twelve and one by sweeping them at the 165 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: end of the season. The crazy thing is the Guardians 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: finished the season only eight and five against the White Sox. 167 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: They're the division champions by quite a bit, so we 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: have this incredible horse race going down to the finish. 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: If you recall August twenty seventh, not that long ago, 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: the Royals were tied with the Guardians for the division 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: lead August twenty seventh, here they are now. They're seven 172 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: and a half games back, seven and a half games 173 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: behind the Guardians. That's how far they have fallen. The 174 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: Twins have fallen to the point where this is a race. 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: It should never have been a race. And good for 176 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: the Tigers, they have Jackson Job coming up to joining 177 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: their bullpen. He is one of the game's top pitching prospects. 178 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: And heck, even the Mariners a team I dismissed as 179 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: recently as Thursday. I remember telling their fans the pipe 180 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: down should have shut my mouth again, because I was 181 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: wrong again. The good news is I don't mind looking stupid. 182 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: And the reason I don't mind looking stupid is because 183 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: this week is going to be a blast time now 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: for the Inside Dish, the part of the show where 185 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I talk about maybe a story i've written, maybe a 186 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: trend in the game, or this week an awards race 187 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: that is particularly interesting and we've discussed it before. We've 188 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: freely discussed it all season, the National League Rookie of 189 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: the Year race. It comes down to three guys right now, 190 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: Paul Skeins and Jackson Merrill and Jackson Churio, the two Jacksons. 191 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: And I was struck by a quote from Pirates manager 192 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: Derek Shelton over the weekend after Skeen's most recent start, 193 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: in which he was brilliant again. Here is what Derek 194 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Shelton said, and I think you'll find it interesting as well. 195 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I respect what the two Jacksons are doing for sure, 196 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: and they're both really good players. But I think when 197 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: we start talking about guys that are doing things that 198 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: are historic, that's why it puts him Paul Skeans in 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: that category. For me, that's why I feel he deserves 200 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: to be a winner. Now, Paul Skans certainly is doing 201 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: historic things one point nine to nine ERA. And here's 202 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: the number to remember, or the statistics, set of statistics 203 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: that really stand out here. He's the first pitcher in 204 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: the modern era with one hundred and fifty strikeouts and 205 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: an ERA below two in his first twenty two career game. 206 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: Let me repeat that because it's worthy of repeating again. 207 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: First picture in the modern era with one hundred and 208 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: fifty strikeouts and an ERA below two in his first 209 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: twenty two games. That is historic. There's no question about that. 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: That's something that no one else has done before. Now, 211 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: what Shelton said carries meaning because in the American League 212 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: MVP race, for instance, Aaron Judge is doing historic things 213 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: two fifty five home run seasons in his career. Now, 214 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: only three other players have done that, and two of 215 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: them were McGuire and Sosa. Babe ruth is the other. 216 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: McGuire and Sosa are of course tainted. Bobby Witt is 217 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: doing historic things as well. In the American League MVP race, 218 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: first shortstop with two thirty homer thirty stolen based seasons. 219 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: So it's amazing what these guys are accomplishing. And while 220 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Skeens is doing something historic and something really that we 221 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen and has been thrilling fans all season, Jackson 222 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Merrill and Jackson Cheerio have had their own slices of 223 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: history that they've carved out during their seasons. Maybe not 224 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: as impressive as Schins, but impressive in their own way. 225 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: Jackson Merrill, remember he's got the six game tyme or 226 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: go ahead home runs in the eighth inning or later 227 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: that ties him with Frank Robinson in nineteen fifty six 228 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: for the most in the season for a player twenty 229 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: one or younger since nineteen hundred. He also has five 230 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: game tyme or go ahead home runs in the ninth 231 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: inning or later this year. No other player this year 232 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: has more than three, and Cheerio it's a simpler stat 233 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: but it's still impressive. The youngest twenty twenty player in 234 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Major league history. Twenty home runs, twenty stolen bases. Okay, 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: let's take a look at their seasons, just how they 236 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: stack up statistically against each other. I'm not going to 237 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: do every statistic here, but just to give you an 238 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: idea of where these three guys stand. Cheerio, we mentioned 239 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty twenty one homers, twenty one stolen bases, 240 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: seven ninety seven ops, Merrill twenty four homers, sixteen steals, 241 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: eight twenty nine ops skins. We talked about the one 242 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: point nine to nine ERA, one hundred and thirty one innings, 243 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty seven strikeouts, twenty two starts. He's 244 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: appeared in twenty two games, and that's the difference here. 245 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Merrill has appeared in one hundred and fifty one games, 246 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Churio one hundred and forty two. So it comes down 247 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: to kind of an apples and oranges question. Do you 248 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: prefer the pitcher who has clearly less volume than Jackson 249 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Churio and Jackson Merrill, or do you prefer the position 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: player who maybe has not had the same kind of 251 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: impact on his team or his sport. And certainly Meryl 252 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: and Turio I've had huge impacts Merrill, especially because of 253 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: what he has done playing center field for that team 254 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: when he had never played the position before. But in 255 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: terms of historic impact, you would probably say, Okay, less 256 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: than Schemes, but terrific seasons, great durability in both cases. 257 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: The fact that they've played this many games is impressive 258 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: in its own right first time major leaguers. I don't 259 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: know what the answer is here. I don't know what 260 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: the correct answer is. Even with the al MVP race. 261 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you what the correct answer is. And 262 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to refer to something my friend Joel Sherman 263 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: said on his own podcast on which I was a 264 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: guest last week. He talked about the Judge versus Rich 265 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Junior question, and he said he doesn't want to hear 266 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: from Yankee fans and he doesn't want to hear from 267 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Royal fans because if you were a Yankee fan and 268 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Wood Jr. Was playing shortstop for your team, You'd 269 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: have a lot different opinion than you do right now. 270 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: And if you were a Royals fan and Aaron Judge 271 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: was playing center field for your team, you'd have a 272 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: lot different opinion as well. So let's try to take 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the biases out of this and look at this objectively. 274 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: But the cool thing about these races is that, again 275 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: you can look at them objectively and really try to 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: drill down statistically and try to figure out where you 277 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: stand and again it's not obvious. It's not a slam 278 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: dunk in any regard which Junior has had an amazing season. 279 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: And all you have to do to look at the 280 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: comp with Judge is consider how they fare in f 281 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: war Fangref's version of war. They're really close. It's decimal 282 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: points apart. And I don't consider war to be the 283 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: all encompassing measure, the defining measure of the MVP race, 284 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: but it gives us an idea, a starting point, and 285 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: these guys are really close. Again, it's something of an 286 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: apples and oranges discussion. They're completely different players. But this 287 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: is the beauty of it. And for people who say, 288 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: with regard to the Rookie of the year's situation, let's 289 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: have one for pictures and let's have one for hitters, okay, 290 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: that would make this a little easier, but it wouldn't 291 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: make it as fun. And part of the beauty of 292 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: the MVP race is that it's not really defined. It's subjective. 293 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: You can choose whoever you want to choose based on 294 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: the criteria. Most valuable means different things to different people. 295 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: With the Rookie of the Year race, technically it's best rookie. Okay, 296 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: that should be easy enough. But when you're dealing with 297 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: pictures and hitters, two completely different animals, you're not going 298 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: to have that same kind of easy determinants. It's not 299 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: an easy determinant. You're again dealing with two totally different things. 300 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: That said, don't give me two awards. This is what 301 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: makes it fun. It makes it difficult, it makes it 302 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: maybe impossible to really judge fair, but it's what makes 303 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: it something that is unique in our sport and something 304 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: that gives fans cause for debate. Someone's going to win 305 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: that NL Rookie of the Year award. We know that, 306 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's probably going to be pretty close between the 307 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: top three. I would say it's probably between Skeens and Merrill, 308 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: with Cheerio third, because Meryl is above Cheerio. Most of 309 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: us would agree that Churio has been great, but Meryl's 310 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: had this amazing season. He's done a little bit more, 311 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: He got started a little bit earlier. Chario really didn't 312 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: take off until June. Skeenes, again is a pitcher. One 313 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one innings is not one hundred and 314 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: fifty one games, right, and that's what Meryl has played. 315 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: That said, as Derek Shelton pointed out, Skeens has done 316 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: something wow, We've never really seen before from a starting pitcher, 317 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: and how much that is taken into account by voters, 318 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: That's what remains to be seen and that is what 319 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: makes this race so fascinating. We'll be back after a 320 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: word from A. J. 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We've got some really 343 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: good ones this week, Let's get right to them. The 344 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: first question come from Nathaniel Jew who asks what are 345 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: your fondest memories of the coliseum. Nathaniel, of course is 346 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: referring to the Oakland Colisseum, which will host its last 347 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: games this week. And my favorite memory of the Oakland 348 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Coliseum goes back thirty four years nineteen ninety the American 349 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: League Championship Series between the Oakland A's and the Boston 350 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Red Sox. It was the Iblack Game, Game four of 351 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: the Alcs. Red Sox were down three games to none. 352 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Roger Clemens wore this crazy EyeBlack that day war paint. 353 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Actually it was more looking like that, and I remember 354 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: vividly the press box was full. Back then, more newspapers 355 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: travel than they do today, and I had a seat 356 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: in the auxiliary press box up in the upper deck. 357 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful day in Oakland, sunny day, and 358 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: I was there early, as writers are get there early, 359 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: and I was in my seat fairly early. I don't 360 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: know what I was doing, but I remember vividly the 361 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: sight of Dave Stewart marching in from the left field 362 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: bullpen to the dugout where the A's of course, were 363 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: going to be situated. Went through the dugout into the 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: clubhouse and Stu had this look on his face that 365 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: was the ultra competitive look, and he had a thing 366 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: for Clemens. He wanted to beat Clemens. And that day 367 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Clemens kind of melted down and in two third, three 368 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: runs it wasn't good for him at all. Stu eight innings, 369 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: one run a sweeped the series, and Dave Stewart that 370 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: day stood as tall as he has stood or had 371 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: stood in his career. It was a brilliant performance and 372 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it was just a rocking environment. I have so many 373 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: memories from the coliseum, but that one is the most vivid. 374 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: That was when the A's were the A's the big time, 375 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: swinging a's with McGuire and Conseko, that whole deal, and 376 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: that year they would go on to lose the World 377 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Series to the red If you remember, they got swept 378 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: by the Reds in nineteen ninety, but it was a magical, 379 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: magical Alcs for them and Stu beating Clemens in that 380 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: Game four, that was something else. Second question comes from 381 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: Armand Wyatt and Armand asked if the postseason started today, 382 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: what would your rankings be for NL starting rotations. I 383 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: like this one. I referred to it earlier talking about 384 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: the Phillies. Their rotation to me is perhaps the best 385 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: in the entire postseason and will be because of what 386 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: they've done in the past and what they have accomplished 387 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: this season. That group, Wheeler Nola, Christopher Sanchez, Ranger Suarez, 388 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: They're all really good. Suarez, I know, has struggled of 389 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: late and it's just kind of coming back from that 390 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: injury and not been as good. But I'll take him. 391 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm okay with him. As for who's next, I would 392 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: put the Padres probably next, Dylan Cees, Michael King, Joe Musgrove, 393 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: you Darvish. Now I had someone asked me yesterday National 394 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: League manager in fact, say, well, ever pitched in a 395 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: big game. I guess not, But I'll take my chances 396 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: with Dylan Sees. He's thrown a no hitter, He's done 397 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: some big things. He's really good. If the Braves get in, 398 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: certainly their rotation with Sail and Freed at the top 399 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: is formidable. But I don't know if they're getting in 400 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the Mets, I would put them probably toward the bottom. 401 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: It's Manyah and Severina, who have been both very good, 402 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: David Peterson, who has been very good as well. I 403 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: just don't know if it's as dominant as the top 404 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: two the Diamondbacks. Gallon is not quite maybe what he 405 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: was at this point a year ago. Kelly not either 406 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: at water Rodriguez up and down down again on Monday night. 407 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not so sure I would put the Diamondbacks 408 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: at that same level. Their offense is the best of 409 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: the majors. That's what makes them so good right now. 410 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: And then there are the Dodgers, And the Dodgers are 411 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: a team that you look at their rotation right now, 412 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: it's Jack Flowherty, it's Yoshinobu Yamamotos still rounding into form. 413 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: And then and it's a coin flip with what you 414 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: have next. And the team I've overlooked here in answering 415 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: this question is Milwaukee. They're a team that does not 416 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: have a great dominant rotation. We know this, We've seen 417 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: in all year. Freddy Peralta probably starts Game one either 418 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Tobias Myers or Frankie Mantas or maybe a bullpen game 419 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: in game two so they can get favorable matchups. They're 420 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: not going to win with their rotation. They could win 421 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: with their bullpen and their offense and their defense. They're 422 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: a great team. They've proven that they deserve all of 423 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: our respect. But when you're ranking rotations, Philly's at the top, 424 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: Padres not far behind them, and then everyone else, I 425 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: would say. Finally, the last question comes from Josh Newman, 426 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: who asks who gets the bigger free agent contract, Max 427 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Freed or Corbyn Burns. Josh, I don't know that this 428 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: one's going to be terribly close. Max fried is a 429 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: year older. That's not that big a deal. He's going 430 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: to be thirty one next year. Corbyn Burns will be thirty. 431 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: But the bigger separator here between these two is innings 432 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: pitched had a number of injuries in recent years. Last 433 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: year he threw only seventy seven and two thirds innings. 434 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: This year he is up around one hundred and sixty five. 435 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: Not bad, but in his career he has been over 436 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: one eighty only once. Only once has Max Fried exceeded 437 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty innings. Corbyn Burns, on the other hand, 438 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: has been for the last three seasons really a two 439 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: hundred inning guy or close to it. Two hundred and 440 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: one ninety one eighty. That's the range that he has 441 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: been in. He's also had a better season than Freed Is, 442 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: at least as far as consistency, and he is a 443 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: guy that in the game today is valued as one 444 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: of the few true ace types, one of the few 445 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: workhorses now. Max Fried at his best is absolutely that, 446 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: every bit of that. And he's left handed, so of 447 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: course teams are always looking for that as well, and 448 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: maybe that gets a little bit of an edge in 449 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: the market. But it's the durability that is my concern 450 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: with Freed. I love him, I love his competitiveness, I 451 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: love everything about him. It's just that he hasn't be 452 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: in the same kind of workhorse that Corbyn Burns has 453 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: been over the last several years. Thanks everyone for your questions, 454 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: thanks for watching, for listening. You know where to find 455 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: us YouTube, Apple, Spotify, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts 456 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: like us. We will be back on Thursday, our normal 457 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: Thursday show myself and Alama Rizzo twelve thirty Eastern. Have 458 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: a great week everyone, and we'll see on Thursday what 459 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: I'll be apologizing for next. 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