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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stop Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From house Stop works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Kristen and this is Molly. Molly.

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Speaker 1: As you well know, Shark Week of Discovery Channel, in

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Speaker 1: which everything shark takes over the air waves. Tracy Jordan's

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Speaker 1: favorite week, Tracy Jordan's favorite week. Yes, for fans of

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Speaker 1: thirty Rock, which we probably shouldn't plug because it's on

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Speaker 1: a different network from Discovery Channel, but still, Shark Week

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Speaker 1: is coming up. So we're gonna talk about sharks today.

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Speaker 1: And Molly, how how on earth can we talk about

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Speaker 1: sharks relationship to women? It seems pretty disconnected, right, No,

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Speaker 1: I see a very obvious connection. Oh well, I do,

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Speaker 1: do explain. Well, the thing I always think about sharks.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a big urban myth sits out there,

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Speaker 1: is that sharks cansmell blood from miles away, and obviously,

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Speaker 1: without getting too crude about it, this is a particular

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Speaker 1: importance to women because there's a particular time of the

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Speaker 1: month in which we release between fifty millions of blood

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Speaker 1: and I think I've heard about that. It's called menstruation,

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Speaker 1: all right, Molly. So yeah, the question that the big

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Speaker 1: if we are on our periods because we're basically shark magnets.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, okay, Let's talk about sharks incredible

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Speaker 1: sense of smell, because the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: because they have some pretty incredible nasal anatomy, right, Molly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sharks are sometimes known as swimming noses because they just

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Speaker 1: You put the shark in there at the ten billion things,

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Speaker 1: it can smell the fish well, and out of ten

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Speaker 1: say you're get in a swimming pool, Christen, and then

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Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not. It can't smell underwater, obviously, Well,

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Speaker 1: And then their brain is able to track down the

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Speaker 1: specific um pheromones and of potential mates or sense of

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