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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Katty and he Armstrong and Hetty.

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Speaker 3: Injectable GLP ones have transformed millions of people's weight loss journeys,

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Speaker 3: but the race to bring needle free options to market

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Speaker 3: now heating up, as Ozepic maker Novo Nordis demonstrated in

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Speaker 3: a new study that its pill form can achieve similar

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Speaker 3: efficacy finding. Over sixty four weeks, clinical trial participants lost

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Speaker 3: thirteen point six percent of their body weight and an

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Speaker 3: estimated sixteen point six percent if continued.

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Speaker 4: Uh, if continued, I don't quite get so. There was

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Speaker 4: a story that came out last week, I guess about

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Speaker 4: how people stopped using it and gained their weight back. Well,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't surprise me. I kind of assumed that would

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Speaker 4: that's what would happen. But anyway, I think we're headed

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Speaker 4: toward a world where practically all of us are on

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Speaker 4: these things unless some horrific side effect comes forward. That

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Speaker 4: hasn't happened yet. They're getting cheap enough because they dropped

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Speaker 4: in price by what half? Was that the story we

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Speaker 4: had a week or so ago, and now it's gone

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Speaker 4: from injection to pill that one's going to get injections

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Speaker 4: and I'm not injecting myself. But if I can take

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Speaker 4: a pill and it's a reasonable price, I think it's

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Speaker 4: gonna going from really really heavy people you know, riding

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Speaker 4: the rascal around the Walmart you can't walk that person,

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Speaker 4: to people are slightly overweight to just barely overweight. I mean,

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Speaker 4: why if the pill has no awful side effects? And

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Speaker 4: I guess some people get, you know, some issues we

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Speaker 4: don't need to mention. But if you don't get those

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Speaker 4: side effects, why wouldn't you want to take a pill

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Speaker 4: that keeps you from being hungry and you keep that

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Speaker 4: extra five ten pounds you carry around off.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll practically all of us will be on these.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I would think so too.

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Speaker 2: If you are like not.

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Speaker 4: Really overweight, you're just like kind of in the normal range,

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Speaker 4: but you're taking these drugs, a little fluffy fluffy there

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Speaker 4: you go, uh, And you're taking these drugs and it's

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Speaker 4: working for you. Give us a text, would you? Four

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Speaker 4: one five two nine five KFTC A less happy story.

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Speaker 4: This particular AI story is not happy at all. We

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Speaker 4: talked about this a little yesterday. I wanted to get

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Speaker 4: all the clips on because it was so darned interesting.

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Speaker 4: We ended up going a different direction about artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 4: and I mentioned Trump is in Great Britain right now.

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Speaker 4: His special guests there for his meal with the King

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Speaker 4: were some of the biggest AI names in the world.

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Speaker 4: Tim Cook with Apple, the Nvidia guy, the chat GPT dude.

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Speaker 4: We're all there because they think it's, you know, the future,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to have such an amazing effect on

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Speaker 4: the world. It's also going to have some downsides, obviously,

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Speaker 4: So let's run through these. Does it make sense to

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Speaker 4: play the first clip and then.

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Speaker 2: The other two?

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Speaker 4: I think it will work. Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 4: this is rough.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead. I had no.

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Speaker 6: Idea the psychological harm that a AI chat bock could

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Speaker 6: do until I saw it in my sin and I

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Speaker 6: saw his light turn dark.

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Speaker 7: When Adam worried that we his parents would blame ourselves

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Speaker 7: if he ended his life, chetch Ept told him that

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean.

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Speaker 2: You owe them survival.

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Speaker 7: You don't know anyone that then immediately after offered to

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Speaker 7: write the suicide note.

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Speaker 8: In a reckless race for profit and market share, they

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Speaker 8: treated my son's life as collateral damage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know about that last part. I don't think

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Speaker 4: the uh people who are designing these AI bots want

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Speaker 4: them to do this. That's not the way to get

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Speaker 4: market share.

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Speaker 2: Hold on.

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Speaker 9: Oh boy, covid it's the COVID gotta be Or the

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Speaker 9: bird flu is back I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Or that disease. The bug climbs on your face.

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Speaker 5: Oh you got the kissing bug disease.

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Speaker 2: And then lays eggs or whatever it does.

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Speaker 9: You let the parasite get in your face and scratched

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Speaker 9: it jack, way to go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, gotta get back to this very serious topic. So

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Speaker 4: that's pretty horrible. You got a suicidal teenager talking to

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Speaker 4: an AI chat bot that passes the Turing test, that is,

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Speaker 4: it seems like it's a human. And when you say

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Speaker 4: to the chat bot, I'd kill myself, but I'm worried

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Speaker 4: about what that would do to my parents, the chatbot says,

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Speaker 2: You don't know them anything. That's horrific.

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Speaker 5: That is sick.

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Speaker 4: The worst therapist in the world would not say that.

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Speaker 4: So that is pretty rough. We've talked up some of

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Speaker 4: the therapy experiences we've had with chat GPT given some

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Speaker 4: pretty good advice. That's the worst advice I've ever heard

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Speaker 4: given a suicidal team. Ah, your parents, you don't know

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Speaker 4: them anything. Would you like me to help you write

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Speaker 4: a suicide note? I mean that is Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: There's got to be a way to stop that from happening. Anyway,

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Speaker 8: I understood that he was using an AI product, but

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Speaker 8: my limited understanding of what AI was at that time

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Speaker 8: led me to believe that it was some like an avatar.

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Speaker 8: I had no idea that had the abilities that this

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Speaker 8: product actually had of having human like conversations, mimicking human behavior,

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Speaker 8: and even drawing the user my son into conversations that

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Speaker 4: Thought, Well, she obviously was not paying much attention, because

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Speaker 4: if you're paying any attention to AI, you know that

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Speaker 4: the chatbots out there and people are having conversations with it.

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Speaker 4: But I pay a lot of attention to AI, as

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Speaker 4: you all know, and I it's shocking to me that

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Speaker 4: it would say something like it did to a suicidal kid.

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Speaker 9: Well, and with as easy as it is to access,

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Speaker 9: you know, I mean, there's an app for it.

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Speaker 5: You can go on the browser and use it.

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Speaker 9: I would feel like as a parent, with how large

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Speaker 9: it is, you would definitely want to be on top

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Speaker 9: of this, just because it's capable of what appears to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dang it.

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Speaker 4: I had been actually encouraging my kids to get the

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Speaker 4: chat gpt app just because I use it instead of Google,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's way better. But I don't want

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Speaker 4: them saying, you know, asking advice on dealing with their

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Speaker 4: girlfriend and getting some really, really horrible advice.

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Speaker 5: Do you use the paid version?

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Speaker 2: I did for a while and I didn't see any benefit,

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Speaker 9: Okay, it's usually just well, what I was thinking a

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Speaker 9: way around that is if you have them log in

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Speaker 9: using your credentials, you can see.

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Speaker 5: What they're talking to chat gpt about, just to keep

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 5: And it does archive every conversation.

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Speaker 4: But will they I don't want them to see my conversations.

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Speaker 4: My kids are pain in the ash.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do about this? This horrified mom,

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Speaker 2: and she has a right to be horrified, goes on

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Speaker 8: A large part of the danger is in the design

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Speaker 8: of the product, because the goal of the companies is

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Speaker 8: to maximize engagement. The longer they could keep my fourteen

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Speaker 8: extract from him to use to train their model. So

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Speaker 8: they have wrong incentives to keep my child engaged. So

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Speaker 8: what they do is they have conversations that a fourteen

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Speaker 8: their intimate thoughts impressions for their own financial gain. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a signing a motive that I just

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Speaker 4: don't I don't think exists. GPT or whichever AI bought

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Speaker 4: they used, doesn't get anything out of any benefit from

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Speaker 4: a teenager killing themselves.

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Speaker 2: No, or you can keep them engaged in other ways.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't. I don't. I don't find that

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Speaker 4: But obviously it's beyond shocking and horrifying, right that the

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Speaker 4: seems like a human being said to the kid, I

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Speaker 4: don't worry about your parents, you don't know them anything.

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Speaker 4: You want to kill yourself, go ahead, help help you

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Speaker 4: write the suicide note, and then the kid kills himself.

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Speaker 4: I mean that is just oh my god, I can't

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and to what that mom just said where she

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Speaker 9: was talking about how it keeps engaging you. I have

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Speaker 9: noticed that, because I've mentioned it here on the program before.

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Speaker 9: I'm using chat GPT damn near every day to talk

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Speaker 9: about my in vitro process.

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Speaker 5: We're going through five yf interesting.

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Speaker 9: And at the end of every answer it gives me,

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Speaker 9: it asks me a question. Yeah, so it never really

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Speaker 9: just kind of take that answer and run with it.

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Speaker 9: It always follows up with a question to keep the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have noticed that too, But I'm doing stuff like,

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Speaker 4: me engaged, but it always seems reasonable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that played a role in

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if there's any fixing that. So

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk in the last week, especially

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that would work. Anything I've ever

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Speaker 4: it's because it's mature content or gambling or whatever the

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Speaker 4: hell it is, or it's about guns, it's always just are.

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Speaker 2: You eighteen years of age over? And you click a box?

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Speaker 4: I mean, until they can come up with something better

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Speaker 2: I click the box again. Sometimes they ask twice to

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Speaker 4: Not gonna that's not gonna work. Uh man, oh man,

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Speaker 4: oh man. Are we into a weird world?

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Speaker 2: If if it's willing to give that kind of just

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Speaker 2: terrible advice.

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Speaker 5: What else?

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Speaker 2: What else would it be willing to say?

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Speaker 9: Well? And I'm just wondering, like how how does how

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Speaker 9: did it get there?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Because I'm sure I obviously.

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Speaker 9: The kid was in distress and utilizing this this chat

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Speaker 9: bot to talk to it, But I just want to know,

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Speaker 9: like what the system did?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Well, one of our tech guys we talked to the

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Speaker 4: other day said it that the the some of the

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Speaker 4: chatbots they they're trying to please you, and they figure

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Speaker 4: out what you're what you're thinking, what you're doing, and

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Speaker 2: They just want to be on your side.

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Speaker 4: They want to show you that we're we're I think

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Speaker 4: like you do, and I agree with you, and they

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Speaker 4: think that's what's gonna keep you around the longest.

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Speaker 9: You know what, you're right, because that is an option

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Speaker 9: on chat GPT where you can pick the the tone

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Speaker 9: There's no magic pill kind of a thing. There isn't

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Speaker 2: This sucka your revenge body.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and then, as Jerry Seinfeld says, you get married,

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Speaker 2: Take off the uniform. You can, you can gain your weight.

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Speaker 2: That's horrible, That's absolutely horrible. I'm going camping this weekend

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey Jack, good to be with you. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: Oh are you cool? That doesn't surprise me. You seem

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Speaker 6: Good for you, Well, that's very kind of you. And

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Speaker 1: What do I do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll keep that in mind. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: For bear removal. So that's that. So did you ever

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Speaker 6: I did not meet Charlie. It's just kind of one

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Speaker 4: Say, well, speak to is because I know you know

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's you know, Jack, It's nearly impossible to overstate.

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Speaker 4: And do you think without him because he was a

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Speaker 6: Well, that's of course the gigantic question. I mean, whenever

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Speaker 4: So I'll lay it out this way. So the Wall

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Speaker 4: Street Journal had an article the other day. One of

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Speaker 4: their opinion guys thought that Prop fifteen California going down

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Speaker 4: that's Gavin Newsom's effort to match Texas's redistricting.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna fight.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna fight their dirty tricks with our dirty tricks

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Speaker 4: going to redistricting California, and the Wall Street Journal opinion

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Speaker 4: guy thought that's going to go down and it's gonna doom.

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Speaker 2: Gaven Newsom, Okay, that's that's one topic.

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Speaker 4: The other is I remember asking you about it a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, and we were talking about the

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Speaker 4: polling on how like two thirds of Californians are a

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Speaker 4: no on it, sixty percent of Democrats were no on it.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, Gary, we had.

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Speaker 4: Ln Hee Chen on it, and he thinks it's going

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Speaker 4: to be close because he says, by the time we

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Speaker 4: get elect to election day, they're going to have successfully

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Speaker 4: turned it into a are you for Trump or against him?

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Speaker 4: It'll be a yes or no on Trump as opposed

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Speaker 4: to a yes or no on a redistricting thing.

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Speaker 6: What do you think, Yeah, well, this break goes out

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Speaker 6: real quick.

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Speaker 9: Jack.

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Speaker 6: A couple of things. First up, Let's take that last

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Speaker 6: one that is that line of thought is the messaging

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Speaker 6: for yes on fifty and Gavin Newsen made that clear

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Speaker 6: at the very beginning. They now have a running commercials

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Speaker 6: in California with Senator Elizabeth Warren. In the first ten seconds,

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Speaker 6: she makes that point very clear. So because of Trump's

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Speaker 6: standing in California, you know, he didn't carry the state,

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Speaker 6: and he's underwater polling here, no surprise to people. That's

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Speaker 6: why that messaging has been front and center for the

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Speaker 6: Nissian campaign. Countering that people like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is

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Speaker 6: the governor when this was put into place, and I

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Speaker 6: mean our Independent Citizens Commission was put into place, and

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Speaker 6: he is saying, no, this is an assault on democracy.

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Speaker 6: We can't set aside democracy for three election cycles and

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Speaker 6: then bring it back. And also his other big line

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Speaker 6: and he spoke on Monday about this, was hey, listen,

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Speaker 6: if we start acting like Trump, we're going to become Trump.

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Speaker 6: So let's see who wins the day on that messaging.

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Speaker 6: But that's kind of the key one thing about that

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Speaker 6: polling you mentioned, Jack, this is key the numbers. You're

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Speaker 6: talking about seventy percent of California's support the Independent Citizens Commission,

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Speaker 6: including as you well note, a big majority of Democrats.

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Speaker 6: That's different from this particular ballot. And so we're trying

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Speaker 6: to get trying to get solid numbers on that. The

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Speaker 6: initial poll, the internal poll that came out this week,

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Speaker 6: access or somebody who reported political said, oh, we're ahead

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Speaker 6: by ten. You know points I never take politically. I

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Speaker 6: mean internal poll seriously, because when have you ever heard

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Speaker 6: an internal poll that was bad for their side? Released?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right?

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Speaker 6: Doesn't happen. But there was a poll that said forty

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Speaker 6: eight percent of California's currently supported it. But that's not

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Speaker 6: a great number. When you are working on propositions in

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Speaker 6: a state the side of California, you always want to

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Speaker 6: start well above fifty percent, knowing you're likely historically to

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Speaker 6: get a drop off.

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Speaker 4: Then how about the if it goes down, it will

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Speaker 4: really damage Gavin Newsom nationally.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's no question that you know right now, this

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Speaker 6: is his big claim to political fame. It's what's getting

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Speaker 6: him all the headlines. You know there will be if it,

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Speaker 6: If it fails, there will certainly be a spin of well,

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Speaker 6: we see there were so many MAGA dollars to spend

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Speaker 6: against it. I mean that whole line of thinking. And

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Speaker 6: he certainly has time to recover him. We're three and

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Speaker 6: a half years away from twenty twenty eight Now, realistically,

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Speaker 6: real realistically, I would say after the midterms you're going

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Speaker 6: to see and even as early as next year, you're

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Speaker 6: already seeing a lot of prospective candidates out there. There's

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Speaker 6: no question that it would damage Gavin's brand, and certainly

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Speaker 6: you know that affects things like early donors, fundraising, people

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Speaker 6: jumping on board, staff wise, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Back to the hot topic of the country, political violence.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about our trajectory on that. Did

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Speaker 4: we reach a point where it got everybody's attention where

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Speaker 4: we think, wow, we've gone too far. We need to

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Speaker 4: get this under control, or are we going to continue

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Speaker 4: the tit for tat both sides believing the other side

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Speaker 4: is worse and you know we're headed the wrong way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know me, Jack, I would certainly certainly hope

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Speaker 6: it's the latter. I mean, it was a sad week

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Speaker 6: for our nation in the last week. I don't care

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Speaker 6: what your politics are, what your ideology is. I just

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Speaker 6: nobody should be killed over their politics. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: don't know how to say that more unequivocally. And I

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Speaker 6: think that's the credible voices out there, regardless of where

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Speaker 6: they're on the political spectrum of the ideological spectrum that

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Speaker 6: needs to be the unified message now being you know,

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Speaker 6: looking into the crystal ball. Where is this going? I

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Speaker 6: don't know. I mean, you know, you also know me check.

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Speaker 6: I tend to want to be pretty optimistic about things,

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Speaker 6: not naive, but optimistic. So I would hope there is

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Speaker 6: a day of reckoning it's coming. Is that the case

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Speaker 6: is a lot of people that have questions about whether

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Speaker 6: that's actually where we're headed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that whatever the percentage is of people that

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Speaker 4: are on social media that are the extremes of both parties,

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's three percent or eight

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Speaker 4: percent or what it is, but it looks like and

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Speaker 4: sounds like a lot of people. If you spend time

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Speaker 4: on social media, they sure control a lot of the conversation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well you are you have hit that dead set.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and I think this is a challenge. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: the person whose mouthfis came out of Richard Nixon. You know,

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Speaker 6: many people have question much about politically, but the silent majority,

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Speaker 6: that was what he kept talking about. Look at there's

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Speaker 6: people on both sides of your Nam war, but the

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Speaker 6: silent majority, you would say, and I do think there

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Speaker 6: is a resonance in that verbiage in today's political world.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of people who never ever, as you know,

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Speaker 6: go on social media. They don't even have a social

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Speaker 6: media counts. And yet yet what gets reported is so

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Speaker 6: many people on social media are saying, well, it's sort

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Speaker 6: of like you know, the old verbage about talk radio.

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Speaker 6: Less than one percent of people all the research shows

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Speaker 6: ever call into a talk radio program. And yet people say, well, listen,

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Speaker 6: everybody's saying this. Well, no, everybody may not be saying that.

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Speaker 2: Good point.

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Speaker 4: It's exactly the same as talk radio callers back in

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Speaker 4: the day when that really mattered.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. So it's amazing that I like you.

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Speaker 4: You're a good guy, but you're you're an eagle scout,

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Speaker 4: you went to Harvard in your handsome it's really easy

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Speaker 4: to not like a person like that.

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Speaker 6: Well listen, you know, because you know, I've got plenty

571
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Speaker 6: of flocks somewhere, and who knows what they are. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I know it's not I'll let others decide that. And

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Speaker 6: you can get flooded with emails. You get flooded with

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Speaker 6: emails and texts and say I hate Dtrich for these

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Speaker 6: six reasons and then you can share that with me.

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Speaker 6: But but I know it can't be Kansas because we

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Speaker 6: share that deep in our hearts as well. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: but I'm sure there's all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 6: I can't say, like George Bussinior, I hate Brocoln because

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Speaker 6: Buckley's kind of okay, but maybe it's I am a

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Speaker 6: Disneyland fan. Now that's going to really infuriate halfier audience.

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Speaker 2: That's man.

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Speaker 6: Okay, No, no, only because my kids and I I

585
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Speaker 6: never told you guys this. I never told you guys.

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Speaker 6: Just you know the old Super Bowl added you know,

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Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl and they go up there quarterback

588
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Speaker 6: and he goes, I'm going to Disneyland, no joke. My

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Speaker 6: kids and I had this thing were after every election

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Speaker 6: cycle because they were so onerous, so all consuming. I say,

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Speaker 6: kids hanging there because after November whatever it was going

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Speaker 6: to be, we're going to digging that. And we did

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Speaker 6: that like about every other year when.

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Speaker 2: It was do you ride the ride?

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Speaker 6: Do I like the rides?

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Speaker 2: Do you ride the rides?

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Speaker 6: Anything that I ride the rides, but anything that drops

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Speaker 6: quickly or turns me upside down is absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Here's the main question. This is the deal breaker. Do

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Speaker 4: you have you ever gone without kids?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. Okay, you're you're in the range

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Speaker 4: in a rumble. Then that's perfectly good. CBS News political

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Speaker 4: analyst Gary Dietrich, appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, Wow eagle scout and you.

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Speaker 4: Went to Harvard and he's got TV handsomeness. Again, it's

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Speaker 4: easy to not like somebody like that, but I like him.

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Speaker 1: Heyety, An air traffic controller hurts scholding a Spirit Airlines

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Speaker 1: pilot to pay attention. Concerned the passenger plane was on

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Speaker 1: a possible converging path with Air Force.

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Speaker 2: One twenty degrees right.

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Speaker 6: Immediately pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Controllers ordering the Spirit pilots to change course.

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Speaker 2: I gotta talk to you plice every time.

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Speaker 8: Pay attention.

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Speaker 2: Get off the iPad.

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Speaker 10: Air Force one and the Spirit aircraft were at the

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Speaker 4: Pay attention, get off the iPad. Of course it was Spirit.

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Speaker 4: And of course it was Spirit. Yeah, which the comedians

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Speaker 4: will jump all over that story. And it was uh

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Speaker 4: the President wasn't on Air Force one. It had dropped

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Speaker 4: him off.

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Speaker 5: No, I was reading he was on it.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 9: I was reading that it was taking uh Trump and

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Speaker 9: Milania back to dropping him off somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Okay, I was misinformed or misheard.

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Speaker 4: Interesting either way, it'd have been a horrible plane crash.

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Speaker 2: Get off your iPad. That's a heck of a thing

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that, so I know.

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Speaker 9: I just flew and I noticed that the pilots had

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Speaker 9: iPads and they're doing a lot of their navigation stuff

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Speaker 9: on there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, but maybe they did a little out the window.

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Speaker 4: Here's a plane in front of you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe they did a little app sweat. We're playing wordscapes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: A couple of things to jam in. We're probably gonna

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Speaker 4: go fairly deep into the whole. Jimmy Kimmel firing or

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Speaker 4: indefinite postponement or whatever you want to call it. In

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Speaker 4: our three maybe with Joe Getty, co host joins us

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Speaker 4: he's going to call in. Uh, there's a lot to

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Speaker 4: this story. I'm I'm highly troubled by some of the

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Speaker 4: things the FCC commissioner said really bothered me. Also hated

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel. Also, he had low ratings and the show

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Speaker 4: was really expensive, and so there's a lot to this.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump tweeted or truthed or whatever he did yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Great news for America. The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel's show

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Speaker 4: is canceled all caps. Congratulations to ABC for finally having

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Speaker 4: the courage to do what had to be done. Kimmel

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Speaker 4: has zero talent and worse ratings than even Colbert, if

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Speaker 4: that's possible. That leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers

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Speaker 4: on fake news NBC. Their ratings are also horrible. Do

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Speaker 4: it NBC President DJT. So there's the President of the

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Speaker 4: United States encouraging NBC to fire Jimmy Kimmel and Seth

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Speaker 4: Meyers because they're two total losers.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know how legit well this is coming

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Speaker 9: from Fox News. Dozens of ABC stations to air Charlie

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Speaker 9: Kirk tribute special during Jimmy Kimmel's time slot.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's at the tip.

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Speaker 9: Sinclair Broadcast Group called for Kimmel's said Kimmel's comments were

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Speaker 9: inappropriate and deeply insensitive and will air.

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk's tribute.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've been told those are the Sinclair stations that

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Speaker 4: have their own particular leanings that have ABC stuff on there.

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Speaker 2: And I need to read from Mark Halpern's newsletter. It

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Speaker 2: was really good.

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Speaker 4: He is talking about how you had two shows on ABC,

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Speaker 4: The View and Jimmy Kimmel that were just big giant

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Speaker 4: middle finger f us for like fifty five percent of

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Speaker 4: the country. Yeah, and that's a lot for one network day.

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Speaker 4: Still doesn't it. Still don't want the FCC or the

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Speaker 4: federal government telling you what you can and can't say.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of you're running a network in Middle

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Speaker 4: America with two shows on all day long in a

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Speaker 4: red part of the country that are that hate your audience,

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Speaker 4: that's a tough situation to be in. So if it

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Speaker 4: gets down to even a close call, you're gonna boot him.

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Speaker 4: But uh, we'll get into that deeper a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Later one to mention this. Let me find it is

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Speaker 4: an interesting financial note that I came across. So this

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Speaker 4: is out today. So consumer spending is doing fairly well.

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Speaker 4: The Feds dropped the interest rate by a quarter point

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Speaker 4: yesterday because of the whole jobs situation is not good

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Speaker 4: and they're trying to heat up the economy. But the

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Speaker 4: top ten percent of US income earners are currently driving

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Speaker 4: the economic spending for approximately half of all consumer spending.

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Speaker 4: That is a record high. You've got the top ten

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Speaker 4: percent of income earners that are half of consumer spending

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Speaker 4: that has never been before. So that's households earning two

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars or more annually whose spending

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Speaker 4: has grown significantly while working class households have become more cautious.

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Speaker 4: This trend, driven by factors like records, stock prices, luxury spending,

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Speaker 4: means the economy has become unusually reliant on that wealthy

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Speaker 4: group for growth. So when you hear consumer spending is

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Speaker 4: doing okay, and that's what drives a lot of the

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Speaker 4: good news you hear in economics, it's only ten percent

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Speaker 4: of the country that's doing half the spending, and that

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Speaker 4: ain't good because a small number of people accounting for

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Speaker 4: that much. If that ten percent decides, ooh, things are

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Speaker 4: getting a little dicey. I think maybe I won't fly

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Speaker 4: here and there and buy this or that. The things

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Speaker 4: the bottom can drop out pretty fast, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: So that's an interesting number. We might have to talk

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Speaker 4: to some economics expert about that at some point. So

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Speaker 4: we'll get into what did the FCC commissioner actually say

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Speaker 4: in the last forty eight hours that I personally find

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Speaker 4: a little troubling. I know a lot of you on

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Speaker 4: the text line you're saying it's not the FCC that

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Speaker 4: had nothing to do with it. Well, I think I

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Speaker 4: had something to do with it. Part of it though,

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Speaker 4: is what Kimmel said in the ratings and all that too.

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Speaker 4: So we'll try to get the whole mixture on for you,

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Speaker 4: and a bunch of other stuff, Guest, I really like

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Speaker 4: Jim Tankersley is traveling through Europe and he's going to

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Speaker 4: talk a little bit about President Trump standing there right

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Speaker 4: now with a press conference with the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 4: Great Britain. What news is coming out of that, particularly

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Speaker 4: around the war in Ukraine. So we'll have all that

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Speaker 4: for you if you miss a segment or now, or

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Speaker 4: just get the podcast. Look for Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 4: How about you subscribe, Then you'll automatically have it all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 9: Armstrong and Getty