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Speaker 1: When people sit on podcasts and they have the attitude

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Speaker 2: Rachelle Humes is a singer, a television presenter, an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 2: an author, and a podcaster and a mother of three.

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Speaker 2: I joined her on her podcast and today we're swopping seats.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to be like find the balance to

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Speaker 3: That's a real unrealistic approach.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, be realistic of the idea of

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Speaker 1: balance and how everything else in your life is going

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Speaker 1: to look when your business is thriving. I'm very obsessed

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Speaker 1: with making sure that my kids understand the value of money.

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Speaker 1: If you want to start something, it feels like a risk.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, without that unwavering, burning desire and

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Speaker 2: I'm Radi Davlukiah and on my podcast a really Good Cry,

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Speaker 2: We embrace the real, the messy, and the beautiful, providing

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Speaker 2: a space for raw, un fielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability

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Speaker 2: and allow you to tune in to learn, connect and

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Speaker 2: find comfort together.

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Speaker 4: So thank you so much for coming here.

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Speaker 3: I'm so pleased to be here.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the last time I saw you was

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Speaker 2: on your podcast Bazy Launch, and You're so sweet to

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Speaker 2: have me on. But I'm so excited. I'd really love

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Speaker 3: It's so refreshing to be sat in this scene.

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Speaker 2: I know I was asking you before how many podcasts

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Speaker 2: I imagine, yeah, just so many right now. I'm excited,

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Speaker 2: I feel like from seeing you from growing up and

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Speaker 2: You wear so many hats, and I guess the first

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Speaker 3: I might not be saying this in like nine weeks.

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Speaker 2: that means you're present because you're constantly taking things in

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Speaker 1: Yes, And then all of a sudden, exactly, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: and it's a little bit more glitzy. But when the

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Speaker 1: outfit's off, when I'm I'm very much at home. I've

442
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,119
Speaker 1: always had a really funny relationship with being misunderstood and

443
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: it's something that I think, well, I think we all

444
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 1: dislike it, don't we. But I think it's something that

445
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: really sits weird for me, And I think that's maybe

446
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: something that maybe isn't so public for me, that's more

447
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: kind of maybe in friendship groups or in work or

448
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,959
Speaker 1: in I'm very much a people person, and I'm very

449
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: much that person where someone's kind of misunderstood what I

450
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: meant or my intent or how that looks or what

451
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: that meant.

452
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 3: It really kind of mean to It affects my whole aura.

453
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: And until I've like completely digested it and like had

454
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 1: it lived through my body, then I'm at peace with it,

455
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: Like I can't. It really way heavy on me if

456
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I think I've upset someone, if I think somebody took

457
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 1: what I said in the wrong way, if somebody questions

458
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: emotive or an intention and there wasn't one, I'm like,

459
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, why would they think that? It really

460
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: is something that's never But my mum said, I've always

461
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: been like that, So then I sort of start doing

462
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 1: the most because I don't want somebody.

463
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: To say I'm.

464
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: Like going above or But then actually, if it was

465
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: on the flip side, I would think that actually looks.

466
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 3: Like guilt, but it isn't.

467
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: It's more just like, so, I think that's always something

468
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 1: that I've I read let them like everyone else did,

469
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: the Metal Robin's book, and I really need to sort

470
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: of channel that more. But I'm so I really wear

471
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: my heart on my sleeve, and yeah, I think that

472
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Speaker 1: would be something that I always find challenging.

473
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 3: I really do.

474
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 4: I think it's the biggest.

475
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,479
Speaker 2: The biggest struggle is when you know that wasn't what

476
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: was meant to You're in from that the action or

477
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: those words were not meant to be received in that way. Yeah,

478
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: that's the hardest, and I struggle with it so much.

479
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: So partly I was asking for myself because it's something

480
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: I I go above and beyond to the point where

481
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 2: I could look psychotic.

482
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 4: Same and I'm trying to over explain.

483
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 2: You get three voice notes from me, and then you

484
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 2: don't reply, and then somehow I'm like checking your story

485
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: and then I'm replying to your story and.

486
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: It's almost like I'm testing it and I do. Oh,

487
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: they are upset with me exactly. I don't know why.

488
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 1: By the way, this happens like it's it's like not often,

489
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: but when it.

490
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Speaker 3: When it does, it will affect me for months and

491
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 3: I'll think it.

492
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: And I'll think, oh gosh, I would hate them to

493
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: think that of me.

494
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 3: So I'm probably the wrong person to ask I can

495
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: help you. I'm like, like you say, to the point

496
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Speaker 3: where I could come across psychotic.

497
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: I know, because i think, do you know what what

498
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: I think it is for me? When you know your

499
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: intentions and you know they're coming from a pure place,

500
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: but it could be perceived and it's all situational, right, exactly, Well,

501
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: I spoke to so and so and they thought this,

502
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: and they said this, and then that could seem like

503
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: an easy answer, and it's believable because there's an element

504
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: of truth to it.

505
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: I think it's Sank the wise heavy and I think

506
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: it'll always weigh heavy on me.

507
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: And I think when you know your intentions are pure,

508
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: I then become like my own campaigner. Yes, and I

509
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: want to campaign for those intentions.

510
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, do you know what? This is ridiculous?

511
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: And let them as probably my husband's a.

512
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: Very good sounding board for me, and.

513
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm to hide it from Jade that I've done these things.

514
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: And then a month later, by the way, I think

515
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: I might have sent three voice notes and two text

516
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Speaker 2: messages and then I think I sent a DM and

517
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: they still have a response.

518
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: He's like, why are you okay? You are are you okay?

519
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: And then also he'll be like, Pave, this whole situation

520
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: has arisen because that person did something.

521
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Bad to you.

522
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: Yes, now you think think that they are acting different

523
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: way too, that you might have upset them.

524
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: He was like, this is like he thinks I'm crazy. Yeah,

525
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: stuff like this, but.

526
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 4: Just a woman.

527
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always been like.

528
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: It, and I wish I wasn't because it's almost toxic

529
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: to myself.

530
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 4: I have that same trait.

531
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think, you know what, maybe we're in the

532
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: right and our husbands are in the wrong.

533
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: Do you think No, No, I don't because I know

534
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: that it's weird.

535
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: It is because it feel he consumed in it.

536
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

537
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: And actually, I've got this amazing life coach Door who

538
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: actually comes on the podcast sometimes and she's incredible. She

539
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: like breaks everything down and she says to me sometimes

540
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: that the way that I process situations is that I

541
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: really talk about it and I do all the things.

542
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: So I do the things and just sent the voice notes.

543
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: I will talk to my husband, and I'll say, and

544
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm to a point there where if

545
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: it goes on too long, I'm not even telling him

546
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: this up date.

547
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: Today because he's just going to be like, what you're doing.

548
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: But I have to do it to mentally process it,

549
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: so I won't. And we say that we should talk, right,

550
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: that we should talk about things. But almost on the

551
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: flip side, what she was explaining to me that is

552
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: sometimes that that you can also do that too much.

553
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 1: So she was like, treated the kind of feeling that

554
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: overwhelms you that you have to talk about, and whether

555
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: that's like sadness or anxiety or like anger or whatever

556
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: that would be if you treat it like a person,

557
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: And if a person like opened your front door and

558
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: run in every room of your house and was like

559
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: shouting at you, talking and doing the most in every house,

560
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: you'd be like, Okay, you're going to have to leave.

561
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: This is just I don't know you. This is too

562
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: much like if it was a person. So that feeling

563
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: that makes you feel like you've got all that stuff,

564
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: if you just sat with it for a second and

565
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: you just acknowledge it, so you sit with it and

566
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: almost to yourself for a second. Of course, you can offload,

567
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: but if you sit with it and be like, oh,

568
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: it's in my chest today, I know it's there, or

569
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 1: it's given me a not in my tummy today and

570
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: just acknowledge it. But what I do with that not

571
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: in my tummy is EI then try and do a thing.

572
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: But actually sometimes that is counter productive because it stays

573
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: with you for longer. So if it was crazy person

574
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: running in your house, you'd be like, stop, sit there

575
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: for a second.

576
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: Likely I'm going to talk about this later, So that's

577
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: what I need to do with it.

578
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: It can be just as toxic as keeping something in sometimes.

579
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like that whatever you put your

580
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: energy towards grows, and so sometimes talking about something too

581
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: much or putting too much energy towards it, well, naturally

582
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: that's going to end up expanding rather than shrinking. Yes,

583
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: and so something that felt maybe like it was just

584
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: in your chest at first ends up feeling like it's

585
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: in your entire body when you end up putting too

586
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: much on it.

587
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, which does make sense, it does, So I do

588
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: try and like that.

589
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: It's actually really helped me processing.

590
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that analogy. I'm going to use it. Yeah,

591
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: just stay right there.

592
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: There, you just stay there for a second. I got you.

593
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: I know what this is.

594
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: I'm not going to send five thousand crazy voices a

595
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: campaign for just one.

596
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: Has your idea of success or things that you thought

597
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: success would bring you from when you were younger changed

598
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: to now? Really, could you share some of the things

599
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: that you feel that you reflect on.

600
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe I thought that success was having

601
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: a great job. Like I grew up with my mom

602
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: and my mum raised me, and when I was born,

603
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: my mum and I lived in a hostel until my

604
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: mum got a council flat and then we remember when

605
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: we got a house and it was like we got

606
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: this council house and my mum then worked and she

607
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: bought the council house off of the and that was

608
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: like we had literally won the year Reminions like it

609
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: was and that was kind of like seeing that and

610
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: watching my mum do that was just incredible. But I

611
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: think I then really equated success to financial stability and

612
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: to being able to have a car that was a

613
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: nice car, and to be able to have a holiday.

614
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: And then I suppose those things then grew and then

615
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: it became a for me, success was then keeping hold

616
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: of all those things. And I think I will always

617
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: have that working class in me where success is making

618
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: sure my kids can have that. You know, not the most,

619
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: but I never want them to want for anything. And

620
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: for me, that is, you know, if I've got a

621
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: good job and I can earn good money, that's what

622
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: that's for, like you know, and not in a way

623
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: of them being spoiled. They've got a real I'm very

624
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: obsessed with making sure that my kids understand the value

625
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: of money and how that looks and what that means.

626
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: And Okay, but your birthday's in October, that's what we're

627
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: happening in it, like let's write a list for our

628
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: birthday because we But you know, it's also something that

629
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: I've also worked on because I don't want them to

630
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: ever want for anything.

631
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: But I think that for me, that's what success meant.

632
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: But I will always have that in me at the

633
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: back because I know that things can come and go.

634
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: I know that you can be in a band and

635
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow you're not, and that will mean that your wage stops.

636
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: I know how that looks.

637
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: So I think I I've always got that hustler in

638
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: me that I always want to make sure. Maybe that's

639
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: the reason that I'm why I do so many things.

640
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just heading my bet. If one thing stops,

641
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I've got something else. But I think that that will

642
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: always stay. But now my idea of success to me

643
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: is like peace. To me is like, of course that

644
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: the more financial freedom you have, that also brings a

645
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: different level of peace. And I think when people say

646
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: money can't buy you happiness, it's true, but it can

647
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: give you freedom, and is freedom happiness?

648
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: Who knows?

649
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: But I think it obviously does change a lot. It

650
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: makes problems easier, it oftens the blow. I think when

651
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: people sit on podcasts and they have the attitude of

652
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: it's not all about money, and I think it's quite

653
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: unrelatable to someone that has none, and I think for

654
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 1: them a lot of their problems would be fixed if

655
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: they had a healthy bank balance. I think I'm always

656
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: aware of that because that was my mind for a

657
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: very long time. But I do think that it also

658
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: brings a different level of problem.

659
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: It also brings, you know, it changes a lot.

660
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: It does, and I'm not sat here as a billionaire,

661
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: but I have my financial position is very different to

662
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: it once was. But I do know that there is

663
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: truth in the saying of it can't buy you happiness

664
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: because the problems change and everything's relative.

665
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: It does. It changes that you have a lovely house, but.

666
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: Then that comes with lovely bills and that everything else

667
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: that's attached to it.

668
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: So I think it's all relative.

669
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: But I think that for me now, my idea of

670
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: success isn't necessarily being able to afford what I want.

671
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: It's kind of friendship. It's great relationship with my children.

672
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: It's spending time with my husbands and being able to

673
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: do that and still do what I To me, that's

674
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: what success is now. And like health and knowing that

675
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: you can have all the money in the world, and

676
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: of course you can look into different options of health care,

677
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: but if something is coming for somebody you love or

678
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: for yourself, knowing that, of course, all of that can't

679
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: fix it, and as much as you wish it could.

680
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: So I think your idea of it definitely for me,

681
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: my idea of success has completely changed to like the

682
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: eighteen year old, like I.

683
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: Want to be.

684
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: That.

685
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: It's not that, it's not that, And you know, I

686
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: think in life I've loved and lost people, and I

687
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: think all of that doesn't.

688
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: You know, it all goes back to basics. Everything does.

689
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

690
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: All of what we do and the great opportunity, none

691
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: of it matters, like literally none of it because it

692
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: is all about the.

693
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: People we love.

694
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: And I think, I don't know if that's just an

695
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: age thing. I think it yeah, and it is in

696
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: the perspective, just it just it does change it does.

697
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: I love what you said about money because in our

698
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: philosophy and the Vaders, it talks about how actually nothing

699
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: is innately good or bad, but a lot of the

700
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: time it's how we use that thing. Yeah, it creates

701
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: whether it is a good thing or a bad thing.

702
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: And I do find that when people I've noticed a

703
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: lot when people end up being successful, whether it's financially

704
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: or in fame, people end up demonizing it once the

705
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: person is successful, so oh my gosh, you've got money,

706
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: so now you don't have this, or you've got money,

707
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: so now you don't have problems, or people who have

708
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: a lot of money can't be religious or spiritual, like

709
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: they really find that duality quite difficult to understand. I

710
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: think it's because we end up demonizing money based on

711
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: what happens in the world.

712
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: Money does end up separating a lot of people.

713
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: If you have a lot of money, you get benefits

714
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 2: in certain ways, and if you don't, you don't. But

715
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: you've experienced both sides. Yeah, And so when it comes

716
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: to money, whether you end up having a lot or don't,

717
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: I think your mind's can still be the same of

718
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: valuing it in the same way. And when you've come

719
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: from having not much to then having it, the value

720
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: always remains because you will always remember I've come from

721
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: not having much, and so now I value this even

722
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: more so than if someone was to have it the

723
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: whole life.

724
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so.

725
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I think it gives you that different Like I'm like

726
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: if me and my husband and my children lived in

727
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: the tiniest you know, if we lived where I lived

728
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: with my you know, at the beginning of my life.

729
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: And this is what I always want.

730
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: My kids to know, is that that there is all

731
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: that everything, Like of course, you know, and like I said,

732
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: we're lucky and opportunity and you can have you know,

733
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: and if you can, brilliant, but like those are the fundamentals, right,

734
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't wherever we are in the world, we'll

735
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 1: be fine because we're together and that's kind of the

736
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: way that we want to raise them. I also, like

737
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I said, I'm really aware that I perhaps feel that

738
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: way because you know, that wasn't my childhood. So I'm

739
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: really aware that I always want them to be grateful

740
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and want them to have a real understanding. I think

741
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: it's something that I've always toyed with, like will they

742
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: be hungry? Will they graft? Will they have like an aspiration?

743
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Because they live in a lovely house and a lovely area.

744
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I probably never would have never wanted to move out

745
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: if I lived there when I was younger. So is

746
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: it going to give them their own desires to build

747
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: their own life?

748
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: And how do I make sure that they do?

749
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, the parent in me, I'm like toying with

750
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: the struggle of yeah, but this is what I work

751
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: for for them, to want them to go.

752
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: To, you know, to be able to.

753
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: So it's really it's it's like a strange idea. Parenting

754
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: is a strange idea altogether. But I just want them

755
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: to know that you can have everything in the world,

756
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: but if the fundamental aren't there, can actually feel like

757
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: you've got nothing.

758
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: So the fundamentals are there and you're.

759
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: Rich, you're rich in love, You're rich in friendship, You're

760
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: rich in you know, the best parts of life if

761
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: you look after that first.

762
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: You know, I think core principles and values are taught

763
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: separately to.

764
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: Any financial situation.

765
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: So you know, I think about my parents came to

766
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: the UK's immigrants with literally nothing, and they lived in

767
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: refugee camps here and for them, naturally, I will never

768
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: be able to have the same mindset as them.

769
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will never be able to because.

770
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: They work so hard to allow me to feel like

771
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: I am comfortable and for me to never have to

772
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know where my next meal is

773
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: coming from, as they have had to. And so there

774
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: is a part where if you haven't been through that struggle, naturally,

775
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: you may not ever understand the depths of that, but

776
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: the values and principles after watching them, So after your

777
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: children have watched you live by those values principles, naturally,

778
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: that is what they will end up embodying, or they

779
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: will end up taking on. Because there's only so much

780
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: you can tell someone something, but when someone lives it

781
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: and you observe them giving it, it's different. Like my dad,

782
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: if I think, even if it reflects on my parents,

783
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Like my dad is one of the simplest people I've

784
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: ever met in my life. He no matter what, he's

785
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: just simple minded and simple hearted, and no matter how

786
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: much his life has changed through the years, all I

787
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: will think about is the fact that I've never heard

788
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: him say bad things about people. That even if people

789
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: do him wrong, he always says, you know, God's going

790
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: to take care of it, and he's never let it

791
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: bother them. So the things that I remember about him,

792
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with the amount of gifts

793
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: he's given me or the financial stability he's given me,

794
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: but the values he's taught me through being who he is.

795
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: And same with my mom, Like she's so fiery and

796
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: she gets things done and she goes above and beyond

797
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: for people. If she says to someone, I'm going to

798
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: give you that person's number for the back pain that

799
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: you have, for sure two hours later she'll go home

800
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: and make that call, And that to me is rare.

801
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: People don't often follow through what they say, So the

802
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: things that I think about them are based on their

803
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: core values of what they're showing me, not necessarily the

804
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: fact that we have the phone to ring, or the

805
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: fact that we have, They've paid the bills to make

806
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: the phone call happen. And so I think you should

807
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: take a lot of solace in the fact that you

808
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: are showing up. Everything that you have learned from being

809
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: who you were is showing up in the way that

810
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: you just live and the way that you are.

811
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they'll take that on more.

812
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Than so Funny, isn't it when you're like parenting in

813
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: real time. Like I'm the same as you. Like I

814
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, think of my mom and

815
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: how like you know, she didn't have anything, but she

816
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: found the means to do this and then found the

817
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: main to send me to dance school because she thought

818
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: I should go there, and she didn't have the money

819
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: and everything else in between, and worked a billion jobs.

820
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: But like you say, the things that I that I

821
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: hold so dear to my mom, like her values, how

822
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: she like you know, she is, like I mean, the

823
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: friendliest person you'll ever meet. Like it's almost like we

824
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: have like she's like a local celebrity. You like, Mom,

825
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: come on, we just get like she knows this person

826
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: that one and she takes the time to like find

827
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: out about everyone's day, and she's so interested and she's

828
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: like the best nan in the world, and like, my

829
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: kids are obsessed with her, like obsessed with.

830
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: Her, and she's obsessed with them.

831
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: But I think it's quite nice for her because she's

832
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: kind of doing it all again, but she gives.

833
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: Them back, you know, exactly. So special, isn't it.

834
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: And I sort of didn't really have that because my

835
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: mum's relationship with her mom wasn't the same. So it's

836
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: so nice to see them and they're honestly, like she's

837
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: like a proper nan, Like she like is like all

838
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: for them, calls me, she's like, Hi, we're.

839
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: The kids, you know, and it's like I love it.

840
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so interesting that we can all we

841
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: can appreciate our parents and how they've raised us, like

842
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: when we look back and think about that, but like

843
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: it's so interesting, Like, God, I hope my kids.

844
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: Talk about me like that one Oh they will.

845
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: So funny, isn't it.

846
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: Have you noticed as I'm getting older, I'm really noticing

847
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: parts of the things that I would say to my

848
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: mom to be less uptight about, or I think, oh

849
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm living with my grandma right now and

850
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: my mom and the similarities and then I'm telling them

851
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: not to be like that, and then I'm suddenly noticing,

852
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: oh crap, that's me and I have you noticed that

853
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: in the traits or something that when you're speaking to you,

854
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: I never thought this.

855
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: I will say something and I like I literally just

856
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: heard my mom. Yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah,

857
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: I'm everything, and it is crazy.

858
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: And it is You're like, oh my god, I'm never

859
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: going to say that, and that is just like why

860
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: would you? And then I'm like i'd like quoting my mom.

861
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: Like we're using it as my own, like what is this?

862
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: So?

863
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

864
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Everything, and I think just like like, you know, do

865
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: you think this is a tell this?

866
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

867
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: From start to finish the things that I would hear

868
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: my mom.

869
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm really in the taxi mom and dads phase at

870
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: the minute, Like everything is like Elia's like.

871
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: Can I see this friend today? Can I see?

872
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: And I can remember thinking like why is it such

873
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: a big deal? Like you're just dropping me? But when

874
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: your day is so planned and then they're like, right,

875
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: can I just and I'm not can you get me

876
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: at this time now? And You're like I'm like, Eliah,

877
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: you've got other siblings, You're not the only one. I've

878
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: got to get here, there, and everywhere, And it's so

879
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: interesting that I'm like, I just everything.

880
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: My mum used to say, I can now relate.

881
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would say, wait till you have children, and

882
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: then I haven't got there yet.

883
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: But I imagine I'm going to feel the same.

884
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: And you'll get it.

885
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: You'll be oh my god, this is exacuate, she meant,

886
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: and I just thought she was being dramatic.

887
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you feel on the same note

888
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: of that, Is there anything you feel like you're trying

889
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: to unlearn in your life right now that has that

890
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe was a habit or a practice or a behavior

891
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: that you're trying to, you know, let go of because

892
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: it's not serving you anymore.

893
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that kind of like the downplaying. I

894
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: really am not good at compliments. Yeah, but my mum isn't.

895
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: Oh is she not?

896
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: She'll start like yeah.

897
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: My friend actually, and he sent me a meme the

898
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: other day and he was like, this is so you.

899
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: And it was like, I'm going to just start saying

900
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: thank you when someone compliments me on whatever, rather than

901
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: telling them a tale about the outfit where I got it,

902
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: like a whole tale and I just and everyone would

903
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: think like because of my job that I'm like used

904
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: to it. But the truth is people would like you'd

905
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: hear a negative before hearing a compliment in this world.

906
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: That wasn't right. Let's go for that again. And you know,

907
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: that's kind of just how it is. Like it's not

908
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: really every.

909
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Day that someone saying to be up by the way,

910
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: that show is incredible, or today that interview.

911
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: Wow, like that's just not life, is it. We're on

912
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: to the next thing.

913
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: I really just I've always struggled with compliments, but I

914
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: see it from my mum, and I know my mum

915
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: does and I get the same thing where we go

916
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, oh absolutely not. Well, actually I've

917
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: been going through this at the minute, so it's should

918
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: say that, like we just sort of go really into

919
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: ourselves about it and we just have to make a

920
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: joke or you know, turn it into a sort of punchline,

921
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: because it was just easier than just going thank you,

922
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: that's so kind, thank you for saying that.

923
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 4: Someone said that to me to my face, just say

924
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: thank you. Yes, I didn't even know them very well.

925
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, thank you, and I was like

926
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: going on on a story about something. These people helped

927
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: me with this, and these people did that. It really

928
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: wasn't me. I really didn't do much just say thank you.

929
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: It's okay, Yeah, you can say thank you.

930
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: And like my husband said it to me for years

931
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's also really awkward for the person

932
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: on the other end of it, just so you know,

933
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: so you feel like you're kind of not wanting to

934
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: seem arrogant or not this, but actually the person just said, oh,

935
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: you look lovely today, is there.

936
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 4: You're giving them a whole spielf.

937
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: I just to look nice. It's really not that deep.

938
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: Just wanted to know where the dress was from.

939
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: I just put it on really fast. I find in

940
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: my wardrobe and it was really difficult getting ready this morning.

941
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: And yeah, just all the things I do the same

942
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: thing and from the same mom. By the way, I

943
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: know what we've taken on the same things.

944
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: Like when you replate, you're like, yeah, that is yeah,

945
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

946
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: It's a little bit awkward and strange, and everyone's uncomfortable

947
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: in this conversation, not just me, So.

948
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is.

949
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't want my plan to be doing that. I

950
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: don't want them to learn this like self deprecating.

951
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: Weird, isn't it.

952
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can just be okay, like it's thanks.

953
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: I think a big part of it for me comes

954
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: from the balance between being humble and not coming across like,

955
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: like you said, a bit arrogant.

956
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: But you're full of yourself and like you're like, I

957
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: think there's this weird thing as well, the thing that

958
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I know that I have that I never want to

959
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: be a stereotype. Of course celeb Yes, don't want to.

960
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: But you know what we're doing.

961
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: We're mistaking arrogance with confidence, correct, you know. So I

962
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: think there's a difference between being and I think it

963
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: really is based on the intention in your mind and

964
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: when you're saying thank you.

965
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 4: If you're like, thank you so much, that's so sweet.

966
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Haven't had something like that in so long, and I

967
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: appreciate it. If that's your mind and your heart saying

968
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: that and you say thank you, I feel like the

969
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: intention comes through. Words are such a small part of

970
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: how people receive what you do. Yeah, And so I think,

971
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've experienced this. I can tell energy

972
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: is off from the moment I meet someone, whether their

973
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: words are matching their mind, whether what they're saying is

974
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: actually how they're feeling.

975
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 3: Whether you can put your finger on it or not.

976
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: You can feel it.

977
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

978
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: And so when you say thank you, like when you

979
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: came in the door and I was like, you're amazing,

980
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: and then you I was like, you feel your energy

981
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: is genuine from the moment you say one word. And

982
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: so I think we have to become settled in that

983
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: where if my intention is that, if the person receiving

984
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel that intention, they're not going to feel it,

985
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: whether I say a hundred words or just one.

986
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

987
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: And when you're not really thinking that way and you

988
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 2: say something, you will feel outderlignment.

989
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I think there's just something and I think maybe that's

990
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: this is in me over the years of like like

991
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I said, I probably entered this industry when I was

992
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: eleven or two. Yeah, and I think maybe there's something

993
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: like there's always that and I hear it, and I

994
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: even hear it now kind of in the workplace.

995
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: People go, what was she like in real life?

996
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: Right? And there's always that thing of not wanting to

997
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: be hearing that somebody was like really difficult.

998
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: Or really perceived wrong.

999
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Arrogant or really Also those people might just had a

1000
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: bad day, right, what do we know? But like I

1001
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: said on this, like campaigning for myself before i've even

1002
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: so I'm always like, I want everybody to know that

1003
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm actually really like, I'm not difficult, I'm

1004
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: not I'm on the TV sometimes, but I'm actually right.

1005
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm always sort of working from that place

1006
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: rather than just turning.

1007
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: Up, which sometimes I can absolutely resonate. But I think

1008
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: sometimes it almost can stop you from presently being in

1009
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: the room, interacting and communicating, because I end up thinking

1010
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: I need to make sure I'm perceived in a certain

1011
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: way rather than just being a certain way.

1012
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: Because I think you, like you say, when you know

1013
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: yourself and you know and not everybody does, so you're

1014
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: almost I don't want to think it goes back to

1015
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: what we were talking about before. You don't want everyone

1016
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: to be misunderstood or so I think it's.

1017
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: You know what it is because we're going into that

1018
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: room expecting people to think that, whereas if we went

1019
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: into the room, it's almost like we're so osing before

1020
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: getting into the room, we're.

1021
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: Saying we're down in the control, nothing's happened, nothing's even happen.

1022
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: We're playing drama for no reason?

1023
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: Is what we've come to is that what if thing

1024
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: isn't it?

1025
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's not like you can just but

1026
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: I think that's what in my older age, I've just

1027
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like more comfortable.

1028
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: I've done that for so long.

1029
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm so comfortable in like, well, if they think it,

1030
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: what am I going to do about it?

1031
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: Exactly?

1032
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Is it going to rock my world?

1033
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: No? I do think age helps, Like as you get older,

1034
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: I do think you let go of little things here

1035
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: and there they start dropping off than yeah, God, otherwise

1036
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: we'll be carrying that all through life.

1037
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: Nervous Nellie's yeah. Do they like me? I'm nice? I promise, yeah, exactly.

1038
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: I want to switch up a little bit.

1039
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: One of my questions on here was how do you

1040
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: have three children do everything you do and still look

1041
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: incredible every single time I see you? But now that

1042
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: I just heard what you said, you don't have to

1043
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: answer that question.

1044
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Now you know how uncomfortable this is voking me.

1045
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: One thing I have got really good at understanding is

1046
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: that self care isn't selfish, and I think I need

1047
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: that to stay sane. And I'm not going to like

1048
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it in any other way. Like I at the

1049
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, whether the kids have just got

1050
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: to bed, I'm going to run a bath, I'm going

1051
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: to do all the things that make me feel good.

1052
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I really try to get up before them at the minute.

1053
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: It's quite difficult, not because of them because they're off school.

1054
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Just me.

1055
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm funning hard to get up at the minute.

1056
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: But I try to have that time of the day

1057
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: that I'm not wanted or I'm not needed, And that

1058
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: is like by anybody, by my husband, by my children,

1059
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: by anyone at the business.

1060
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: Like I just like that.

1061
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm to try and I do like pilates or do

1062
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: it at home. I'm like a real high energy person

1063
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've got a lot of energy

1064
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: to get other people, whether that's friends, whether that's like

1065
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, one thing that I know about myself.

1066
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: That is a positive if I'm going to confidence myself,

1067
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: please do is that I am a good friend.

1068
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm all ears if your problem is my problem,

1069
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: but not in a way that's like toxic where it

1070
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: will like drain me. In a way of I know

1071
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: that my glass is always operating being quite full. So

1072
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: I know, I've got stuff to pour out, but by

1073
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: doing that and by being that person, and I have

1074
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: to have that time for me and I couldn't do

1075
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: everything without it.

1076
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't. There's been such a sort of for so long.

1077
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: And I think the world has changed out, which I

1078
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: love that sort of toxic attitude towards it being like

1079
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: a vanity piece or it being like and for me,

1080
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: it literally is just like having a work out or

1081
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: having a bath, or doing some skincare or doing what

1082
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: like you know, listening to a podcast or whatever that is.

1083
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: But having that downtime where I'm not needed or I

1084
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: need that escapism. Yeah, And I think working out does

1085
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: that for me. But when I say working out, it

1086
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: is like strictly pilartis.

1087
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: Wait, what pilatis do you do?

1088
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: I do Plartis by Briani. I do at home.

1089
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: She's got like an app, which is good that I

1090
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: can just log on wherever or I go, or I

1091
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: do Reformer. But whatever it is with that form of exercise,

1092
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't, like from a cardio perspective, overwhelm me where

1093
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to just dread it. Yeah, like some people

1094
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: love cardio and they love that for me, I will like,

1095
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: if you put me through like one.

1096
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Speaker 3: Hit class, I'm not coming back right right right.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you get somewhere and they're like there's

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00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: this teacher and they're like, we're going to do a

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00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: great class for me.

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Speaker 3: That isn't it. I'm like, oh, it was too hard

1101
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: I got. I'm like, be scared to go yea. But

1102
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: whatever pilatus does.

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Speaker 1: For my I'm like so in my body that I'm

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00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: out of my mind and I like just like witching

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00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: off and I don't I can't think of anything el

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00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: because I'm too busy trying to get into that.

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00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly that.

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Speaker 1: So I think for me, it's really really good and

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00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: it's really healthy. And I do switch off because I've

1110
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: got such a busy brain. But I like that for me,

1111
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: a busy brain is a happy brain, but it does

1112
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: need to shut down at some point in the day.

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Speaker 2: I love that you said that about self care because

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00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: I think, especially when you are serving so many people

1115
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: in your life, whether it's a children, husband, you've got

1116
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: a team, you have to come with a.

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00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 4: Certain amount of energy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I actually think self care is service

1119
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: if you're utilizing it in that way. And so I

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00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: think the selfish part comes when if you are doing

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00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: a lot of things for yourself and not serving that

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00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: energy back to someone or back into the community. But

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Speaker 2: for most women, and I'm sure many people, a lot

1124
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: of the time, you have to feel yourself because that

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00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: energy is required in so many different places. Because if

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00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: you show up to your team with twenty percent, they're

1127
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: going to endu feeling like they're at twenty percent rather

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Speaker 2: than one hundred and so and saying with your children

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00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: and saying with your husband. Everybody's energy is so interconnective, yes,

1130
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: and so actually, if everyone was more mindful about how

1131
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: they looked after each other, they'd probably be less road rage,

1132
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: there'd be less negative interactions even between family members. And

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00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: so I think getting that balance of knowing that these

1134
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: are the things, and it's not just the empty things

1135
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: where you.

1136
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Speaker 4: Go and you just do things for the sake of it.

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00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: It's these are the things I know nourish my body,

1138
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: these are things I know nourish my mind, these are

1139
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: things I know nourish my heart. And so if I

1140
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: am getting a balance of all of those, I know

1141
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: that that will allow me to be energetically available for

1142
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: other people.

1143
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: And it's okay to prioritize that.

1144
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: It's like for that to be at the top, because

1145
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: that is a necessity if you are, like you say,

1146
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: that person is, it's a positive for me, Like I

1147
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: love being the person that people rely.

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00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: On or they you know, that isn't It's not a

1149
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: burden to me. It's really really not.

1150
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: And I do know that maybe my energy is one

1151
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: of my best qualities.

1152
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: So we kind of got to keep that.

1153
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: Vouch for that.

1154
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, back at you, girl, back at you.

1155
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: But I think you just have to and you know,

1156
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: I just don't see it as a negative. But I

1157
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: never have. I've never understood that kind of like, oh

1158
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: you take time for yourself. Yeah, god, how do you

1159
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: have time? I'm like, I have to.

1160
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 4: Have you always been such a fashion queen?

1161
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: I have to ask that question. Oh my god, that's

1162
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: so nice. I've always been obsessed.

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: You always loved it. Love you.

1164
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you really can tell because I feel you're Yes,

1165
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: you're so effortless with it and at the same time,

1166
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: you're so good at putting pieces together, and that is

1167
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: actually an art. I think, like fashion is such an art,

1168
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: and I find every time I see the things I've

1169
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: got so many of your post pin and I'm like, okay,

1170
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: I need to get an after that's like this.

1171
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: But is that something you've always been interested in?

1172
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Speaker 1: I have just all and my aunt is like has

1173
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: got a She to me is the most like well

1174
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: put together queen. Yeah, and I've always like love like

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: my mum isn't really into fashion, Like she's not. She's

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00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: never been like, oh this old you know, I will

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00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: borrow something from your aunt. She's never really bothered. But

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00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: my aunt is always like I used to love watching

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00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: her get ready. I would then babysit my cousins and

1180
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: I would love like when she's getting ready to go

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00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: for dinner and I'm looking at cousins like sitting there

1182
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: and watching her like she'd always like she's got a

1183
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: real good eye, and I loved that would always be

1184
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: like such like fond memories for me, like sitting watching

1185
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: her get ready. But yeah, so I've always kind of

1186
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: been obsessed with her wardrobe and loved like I remember

1187
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: saving up for like my first designer bag in like

1188
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: the moment that was a real thing. But yeah, really

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00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: I've really always appreciated fashion and not like anything groundbreaking,

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00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: but I just really like like I do.

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Speaker 3: My whole mood change is if I love my outfit.

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00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: There is something about it dressing up. I got so

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00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: lazy during the pandemic. And then also all of our

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00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: TeamWorks from our house and so I'd end up being

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00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: in sweat a lot of the time. Yeah, of course,

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00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: But then I realized how much even for all of

1197
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: us when we're coming in, if we're actually making an effort,

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: it really just changed the real that you come to

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00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: work with.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it can take you like fifteen minutes

1201
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: little thing to get yourself ready, but it makes such

1202
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: a you know, for me, it's always been a thing

1203
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: to kind of like think about, and I've like put

1204
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: my out there out the night before.

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00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah I do you do again? To save time the

1206
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: next day You'll just be like, right, that's for tomorrow.

1207
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love it.

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: I love nothing more than like looking at like That's

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00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: That's what I love Instagram for. That's like my happy

1210
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: like place of like looking at like.

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Speaker 3: Estal and I love it.

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00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: I love it like when I'm like lay on the sofa,

1213
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking opinion or a love interest.

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00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah so good.

1215
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's for everything, for like the aesthetic for everything.

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00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, this is that to me? Like That's

1217
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: all I'm ever doing on my phone?

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Right?

1219
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are bring me I'm not answer it scrolling.

1220
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: Your love for it is, appreciate it, keep doing it.

1221
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

1222
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to call you ask you some business questions

1223
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: because obviously you have an incredible podcast yourself, like we

1224
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: mentioned Ladies who Launch, but from everyone that you've had

1225
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: on obviously there've been epic business women to your own

1226
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: personal life and your own growth as a business woman,

1227
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: what would your advice be if you had to pick

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00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: one or two things to advise a woman who's starting

1229
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: her career from ground up.

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00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels a little bit unsure. What would your

1231
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: the key messages that you've taken away from I would.

1232
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: Say that's a really good question.

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: Obviously it depends on what stage, but I would say

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: for finding your thing and not like because it's always

1235
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: a risk when you want to if you want to

1236
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: start something and start something for yourself, it feels like

1237
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: a risk. It feels like, oh should I do that?

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00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Which is also sad that we look at it like that,

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00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: because actually you're doing it for yourself, so it shouldn't

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: be a risk. But practically, of course, if you're leaving

1241
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: a job that you're comfortable in and you've got security

1242
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: and everyone's got responsibility, it is a risk. So I

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00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: would say, without that unwavering, burning desire and that passion

1244
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: and belief in what it is you want to do,

1245
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: don't take the risk. Yet that would be I would

1246
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: I think risks are for taking. But if unless you

1247
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: have that and that like I'm obsessed, I can't stop

1248
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: thinking about it, that like it's almost keeping me up

1249
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: all night, but in a great way, in a way

1250
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: of like I can't put this thing down, and I

1251
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: know that there's something in this. I would say wait

1252
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: until you feel that, because when the days are.

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Speaker 3: Long and months are hard, and.

1254
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: However it looks, you need that thing that keeps you going,

1255
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: because the fire always has to be kind of there, yeah,

1256
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: and it has to be burning, and even if it's

1257
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: just like a tiny little thing because you're so drowned

1258
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: into pleases, it's still there. And that's what's going to

1259
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: keep you going because with our it and that's the

1260
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: reason why you work for other people, because you don't

1261
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: have to have that so much their passion isn't necessarily yours.

1262
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: It's a great job and you enjoy it, but on

1263
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: Friday you can close that laptop and it isn't yours.

1264
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: So I think if you don't feel that, don't put

1265
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: everything into it, because you're going to need it when

1266
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: it's the family.

1267
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: That is the best advice. Me and Jay talk about

1268
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: this all the time, that you need a level of

1269
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: we call it delusional optimism. Oh where actually, most people

1270
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 2: that we've been around that have become successful no matter

1271
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: what people are saying, no matter how much the odds

1272
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: are against them, it's a slight level of delusion. You

1273
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: need a delusion that, no matter what, this is going

1274
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: to happen. A delusion that, no matter what people are saying,

1275
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: this is going to happen. But it's delusional optimism where

1276
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: actually you're staying you still remain positive about it.

1277
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: You know that this is the goal.

1278
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: You have a deep feeling that this is actually going

1279
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: to happen for me. But you need to constantly feel

1280
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: date in, date out, and to keep the flame alive.

1281
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: Oh yes, you know what I mean.

1282
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: Of course, you keep.

1283
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: Feeding that flame, even if it's at the lowest that

1284
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: has possibly been for that dream to stay alive one

1285
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: hundred great advice.

1286
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 1: And because I just think without it, you haven't found

1287
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: your thing.

1288
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: That would be my advice.

1289
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: You can try lots of different things and it will

1290
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: be the like the tenth thing that works out right,

1291
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: Like we've all sort of mud, you know what's going

1292
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: to stick?

1293
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1294
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: You can try lots of things, of course, and I

1295
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: think I've tried lots of different things. Like I'm not

1296
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: saying don't try it, but if you're really having that

1297
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: moment of like, do I take this risk, you'll know

1298
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: because you won't be out.

1299
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: It's a light you can't turn out, Yeah, you can't.

1300
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: I love that. That's so great, A great piece of advice.

1301
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't think we need it any more than that.

1302
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: That one is after you've seen success obviously for so

1303
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: many years.

1304
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: What would you say are the three qualities that are

1305
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: needed for success in life? So we've got one, which

1306
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: is the he's an optimism.

1307
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: You've got to be nuts, yeah, be crazy, and you're

1308
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: halfway there?

1309
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: Would you say the other two are maybe that you've

1310
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: embodied or seen I would.

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Speaker 1: Say that kind of tenacity. And also success isn't linear, right,

1312
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Like it hasn't I've had success. Is everything always successful?

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, But people only hear the stories. They'll talk

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: about that for a while and then they haven't seen

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: the two years of like the graft in between, and

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: no one interested. So I would say that tenacity to

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00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: keep going. And I think they're always all like a combination,

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00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: isn't it. You need the fire because without the fire,

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: the tenacity just won't be there, and that kind of

1320
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: will to drive. So they're two things that almost need

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: to work side by side each other. And then this

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: is the hardest thing. You can never ever find balance,

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: So I would have like, because I think you're either

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Speaker 1: being great at something or the other thing's dropping slightly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and I say.

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Speaker 1: That so much like by being here, you know, kids

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00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: are doing clubs and stuff today, right, and then you

1328
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: know I've got another podcast after this, But I've had

1329
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: a great certain terms of podcasting, so I'm doing great

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00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: here today. And like by sitting here now, neither of

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00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: us have sat and checked our emails, and in our business,

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: somebody's probably chasing us and can't reach us, right, but

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Speaker 1: this is going well, So like, I think you've got

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Speaker 1: to have a real clear idea of balance. Isn't what

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: you're not going to be like find the balance to

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: be great at everything at once. Like that's a real

1337
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: unrealistic approach. By being here, we're missing out on something,

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: but guess what, we'll pick that thing up later.

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: But then that also means we're not here. So it's

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Speaker 3: just knowing that it's.

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: Always it's gonna be the wave and at times it

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: will be calmer, but you'll pick up what you dropped yesterday.

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: And that's just but you kind of got to know.

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: So I would say, be realistic of the idea of

1345
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: balance and how everything else in your life is going

1346
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: to look.

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Speaker 3: Your business is thriving, great.

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Speaker 4: I love those two because it's just more like juggling,

1349
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 4: isn't it than valid?

1350
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think and like I'm yet to find

1351
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: somebody that says and everything of ten, I've just found

1352
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: a way to make everything work all week. If if

1353
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: you ever meet them, please interview there.

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got the ultimate delusional.

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: Exactly. Maybe they've got a bit of everything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've got a final few rapid fire questions for you.

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Speaker 2: If you could use one wellness product for the next year,

1358
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: what would it be like, what's your current obsession right now.

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Speaker 3: My current obsession is.

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01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: The well cow elixa you know, the evening.

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Speaker 4: No I need to try.

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Speaker 3: It's really nice.

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: It's like an evening drink. There's one from there, and

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: there's I went. I went off it for a bit

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: because I tried another one called Holy Cacao, which is

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: also lovely. But yeah, having like something nice in the evening,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm obsessed with.

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Speaker 3: Love that.

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: A skincare product that is used every single day.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Chapman Ultimate cleans. Oh okay, no, oh my gosh,

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01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna get you some.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's so good.

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 4: I love skincare. A makeup that you will never leave

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: without in your bag.

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01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: A good concealer. Oh okay, I'm using the Victoria Beckham.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clickie, we do. Isn't it incredible?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have to be honest. I was doing my

1378
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: makeup with my window open, filming, and my concealer rolled

1379
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: out of the window and it's now on someone else's

1380
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: floor downstairs. But that is the one that rolled out

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: so good. It is amazing because it.

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Does feel like skincare. I like my cup that feels

1383
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: like skin care too.

1384
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: It's such a great balance of skincare and covers. Yeah, okay, same,

1385
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: what are you currently reading or listening to if anything?

1386
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: Well, I actually ordered this book and it's arrived dan Amazon,

1387
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: So I'm going to start tonight. I got recommended this

1388
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: after I was in a meeting and apparently it's like

1389
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: been like the Holy Graph for so many people. It's

1390
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: called Breaking the Habit of being Yourself by doctor Joe Dispenser.

1391
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: Dispenser.

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01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with Joe Dispenser. He has an incredible documentary and.

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01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 4: He does these retreats. Have you have you heard of

1394
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: him before?

1395
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: No?

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: Oh.

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01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: He does these phenomenal retreats where he literally heals people

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01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: through basically changing their mindset, whether it's physical ailments, depression,

1399
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: you name it. He has worked out energetic shifts in

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01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: the body in a way that nobody else has.

1401
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to read that book. I love him.

1402
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the he says how to lose your mind

1403
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: and create a new one.

1404
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 4: Great, I'm ready to lose my mind.

1405
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: So there we go.

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01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: What's one thing you wish you had learned when you

1407
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: were younger? And that could be a skill, a sport.

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: Nothing I wish I stuck piano out. I really do.

1409
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful instrument.

1410
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just my middle daughter is learning at the

1411
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: minute and she's really enjoying it.

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: I quit because I didn't like the teacher. Isn't that ridiculous?

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. But it really makes a point.

1414
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: And I used to hate going. My mom used to

1415
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 1: drop me and I was like, I just felt really

1416
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: old and I just didn't like it, and it just

1417
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: was nothing was exciting. So I wish I had like

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: found a teacher that i'd loved and stuck to being

1419
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: able to play, Like what a great.

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: School he is.

1421
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: But also how lovely that you can live what you

1422
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: want to do through your children.

1423
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: I know, I don't need to do this.

1424
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: No, you had, and I just love I suggested it

1425
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: to all three of them, and she was.

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: Like, I really want to learn piano. I'm like, you

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01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: say what now?

1428
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, that's going to be gymnastics for my kids.

1429
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, all of you get in there.

1430
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, yeah, to be flexible exactly.

1431
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: The top three places that you like to shop with

1432
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: brands that you like right now?

1433
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I really like Boogie Boogie Boogie brand.

1434
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

1435
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: I love me and you.

1436
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 4: I've noticed that about you, and I also love it.

1437
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1438
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: It's just cool, isn't it.

1439
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: It's really I mean, it's such a like I'm going

1440
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: to treat myself moment, but mew me, I love, I love.

1441
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 1: I mean, there are actually lots of brands that I love.

1442
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: I like Sarah you do. I find like they do

1443
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: that easy cute pieces. Yeah, just those little moments. I

1444
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: Who else do I like? I like a lot of

1445
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: like sort of instagrammy brands. I like Source U known.

1446
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I really like them. I like Franky Sharp

1447
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: is amazing.

1448
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: Gosh, it's so good.

1449
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: Good ones.

1450
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: There are actually lots that I like.

1451
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: Yah, probably don't really brands, No, I like those ones.

1452
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 4: They're perfect. What reality show would you go on if

1453
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: you were to go on any not.

1454
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: Love I Atually it was like at the time when

1455
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: she was going on, I was like so scared.

1456
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: I was just I was like, she she asked my advice.

1457
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you should do it,

1458
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: which is like and I wasn't not in a way

1459
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: of like obviously she did it, shoudn't listen anyway, But

1460
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: at the time I was just like, oh, this. I

1461
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: just was worried for her to have an experience that

1462
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, you've heard some had some horrible stories about

1463
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: people and afterwards and the treatment that they receive, And

1464
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: I was just you could say one thing and it

1465
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: might land, and she has no idea until she comes

1466
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: out and can't sort of, you know, put anything right

1467
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: if she had. So I just was really kind of

1468
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: apprehensive for her because I didn't want to have a

1469
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: bad experience.

1470
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: She had the best time.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, Luckily, she really held her

1472
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: own and she presented herself.

1473
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was effortlessly.

1474
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: She's a great girl, and it wasn't her. I was

1475
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: worried with the puts.

1476
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: I've heard about it.

1477
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, I work on ITV. I understand,

1478
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: like we I get it. I know that there's a

1479
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: reality show to be made, and I was just kind

1480
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: of worried that she wouldn't get the experience that I

1481
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: wanted her to have this summer of fun.

1482
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: And I'm so pleased that she did. She had the

1483
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: best time, and she's still with her boyfriend.

1484
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: I know.

1485
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: They're Yeah, they're so nice TV.

1486
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, wait, so if you were if you were

1487
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: to go on one, what would it go?

1488
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: When it got my husband did the jungle, so we

1489
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: didn't to get out of here.

1490
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: I went into surprise him.

1491
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the one that I would say that

1492
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: I would have gone on, but then I went there

1493
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: to surprise him and it's terrifying. Really, there's no way

1494
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: I could. I don't know about this. I just I

1495
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: couldn't do strictly because I tried a Christmas special and

1496
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't going. You that's so fun, it was so

1497
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: nor wracking. It so okay, well you become a watcher. Yeah,

1498
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: that's so obsessive love And at the minute I.

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: Haven't started it because I'm just going to get obsessed

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 2: and then this is so good.

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 4: So wait U s A or uk UK right, all.

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: Right, it's so good. Yeah.

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm such a fan of reality that I

1504
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: would just be too scared.

1505
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I'll watch it rather than yeah watat.

1506
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

1507
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: I love this. Thank you.

1508
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: It's been so lovely thing with you and actually getting

1509
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: to chat and this.

1510
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: Is why I love doing a podcast. By the way,

1511
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get to know so many fun people.

1512
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: It's been wonderful, and thank you so much for your

1513
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: energy and all the do able things that you do online.

1514
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: I love watching you, and I feel like I've just

1515
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: got to know you through that, and in person you

1516
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: are literally the same human.

1517
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: So I'm right back at you, right back at you,

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 4: saying you