1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Tasker, get us down, down, down time. Here 2 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: we go. Ready fourth Wednesday almost said Thursday Wednesday edition 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: of the show. Welcome to One Bill's Live from One 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Right next door to 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: New Airfield. Where the field is That that's not grass, 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: that's like the surface thing surface. Oh man, we're close 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: now we're seeing some progress. Check it out, Murphy. If 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: you're watching on MSG, you see along with us, the 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: surface down of the field at New Airfield. Meantime, the 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: practice fields are busy today. There's a lot of people 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: here today as Mini Camp day number two is underway. 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, John Murphy was Steve Tasker Mini 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Camp day number two. We're here until three o'clock. Good 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: show planned, a busy show planned, and it's busy out 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: on the field. There are I think they're high school 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: football coach is right. I saw a couple of Hall 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of famers, high school football Hall of famers out there. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Lendjango its incoming Greater Buffalo Sports Hall of Fame member 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Joe Foyle, longtime high school football coach in Western New York. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: They're out there watching practice today. It seems like a 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: Bill's owner Terry Pugula's out there watching practice day and 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the sidelines out there, Steve, 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: except for us. Except for us. We watched a little 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: bit of what special teams work and that was about it. 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Not even because they just started. They just started. They 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: just started, and you know, here we go. We're on 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: the air. So we're on the air. This is our job, 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: this is our place to be and we're happy to 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: have you with us. But we can't be there, but 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Chris Brown can and is Bills inside from Buffalo Bills 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: dot Com on the sidelines and Minicamp day number two 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: joining us from right outside the ant Pro Sports Training 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Center on a beautiful day. Chris, it's a great day 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: out there. Sorry we had to leave. I would love 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: to be out there with you today. I mean you 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: you were making an emphatic point. We're talking a minute 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: ago about how much you can get if you watch practice, 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: if you pay attention. It's not just wasted time out 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: there for the spectators on the sidelines, unless they want 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: to waste him right start to finish. You can get 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: a lot out here. So yeah, if you're interested in 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: knowing what is going on out here or it's your 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: job to do so it's pretty good idea to watch 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: from the beginning or at the end. What's your favorite 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: what's your favorite period in practice? Brownie? I always like team. 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I like team. I think you get a lot out 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: of that. But I will say this, individual position drills 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: are underrated in terms of paying attention to those and 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: for fans that will be going out to training camp 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: this summer, some of the positions that are probably most 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: worth paying attention to when they break off into those 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: position groups is probably defensive backs and wide receivers. You know, 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: you want to look at some undrafted kids and feel 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: or get a sense as to whether or not they've 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: got the stuff to make it in the league. You 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: watch some cone drills with some dbs, you learn pretty 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: fast who's got the feet to play in this league 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: and who doesn't. If you know what to look for, 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: some of those individual position drills can be very telling. 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: I still remember to this day, first day of training camp, 61 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm watching a former sixth round pick, Carrie Harris, who 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: was a defensive back out of USC for the Bills, 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: probably mid two thousands draft pick. I'm watching him and 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: he can't pick him up and put him down fast enough. 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean it is in stark contrast to everybody else. Now, 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: he made the roster because he was a draft choice, 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: but two years later he's out of the league. And 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: I knew day one of training camp watching that guy 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: going through cone drills, he was not gonna be able 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: to keep up with people at this level. You know 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: what I noticed, Chris, It says you when we get 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: to training camp. Well, you say, is absolutely correct. But 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I also like watching the online d line drills and 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: I pick up a lot from that. You know, who's 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: got the quick hands, who's got quick feet, who they're 76 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: having trouble blocking. I get a lot out of watching 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: those individual drills. Yeah, I would agree with that. You 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: asked me for my favorite, so I just gave him 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I got. I mean, it's not necessarily my favorite thing, 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: but yes, you can get a lot out of it. 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: It wouldn't. What are you gonna notice? Where are you 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna go to first? What's the first position group today 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna look at? Well, it's the it's the daily 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: check in with the line because with all the injuries 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and the shuffling going on there, it's just a constant 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: update type thing where things are seemingly changing each and 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: every day, and it looks like we've got another change 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: here because I don't see Tye and Secki anywhere on 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the field. The non participants among the offensive lineman on 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the whole have been into tenants. The only exception yesterday 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: was Jeremiah Searles, who you know suffered a lower body injury. 92 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: We didn't get the full diagnosis of the exact nature 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: of the injury, so it would make sense that he 94 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: would not be a guy standing around out here with 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: a lower body injury, standing on whatever's bothering him. But 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the other guys on the whole have been here, and 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: today we've got Ike Butcker, John Feliciano and Quentin Spain 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: in red non contact jerseys, as well as Russell Bodine. 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: But Inseeci is not out here at all, and he 100 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: was here watching yesterday, so I don't think it's anything 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: major or noteworthy in terms of being headline news. Just 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: an observation here. And then when they lined up in 103 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: the original situation thing that coach McDermott puts them through 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: at the start of every practice, even before stretch, the 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: line was changed a little bit Spencer Long was back 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: up with the first group at left guard. He had 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: to play center with the second unit yesterday due to 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he and Mitch Morris were the only 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: two centers available to practice yesterday. So that could perhaps 110 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: be an indication that maybe somebody else is ready to 111 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: play center. Butcker has that red non contact jersey on, 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: but he does have his helmet and he is participating 113 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: in individual position drills. So whether he can get in 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: on some second team work today, I guess remains to 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: be seen. It. We got Bobby Johnson, offensive line coach, 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: on the show with us after practice today. Chris and 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I recalled him. Might have been when you and I 118 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: were doing a show a week or so ago, I 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: recall saying I would think that by the end of 120 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: mini camps we have a pretty good idea of who 121 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: lines up where on the offensive line. That's not happening now, 122 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: is it because of some of these Yeah, I don't 123 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that they can 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: definitively say I think they have an idea in mind. 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I found it interesting. You know, Coach 126 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: McDermott and coach Dabel, who spoke last week kind of 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: address this, Coach Dabel said, yes, we have an idea 128 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: in mind as to who we like there, but I 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: think they want to see the pads on because just 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: as much as we see the fortunes of receivers or 131 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: cornerbacks change when the physical part of the game is 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: introduced a training camp, when the pads go on, it 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: might be even to an even greater degree for lineman 134 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, because that's what their 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: game is, largely leaning on people executing combination blocks and 136 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: things of that nature, and really showing how physically capable 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: you are of moving people off the line of scrimmage. 138 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: So I think we dable and Coach Johnson and Coach 139 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: McDermott might in their minds, I have some thoughts as 140 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: to how they want their front five to line up 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: in the first unit. I think it is very much 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: subject to change as training camp opens. How long how 143 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: much do you think it's gonna affect him? We've talked 144 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: about the offensive line and their injuries a ton. What 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: about the tight ends you got just you know, the 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: top two guys that walked into this place, Tyler Croft 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: and Jason Krun. Both those guys are out so it's 148 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the same story with tight ends, just with fewer pieces. Yeah, 149 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I would say the encouraging thing is Knox has done Um, 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, Dawson has done really well here in the 151 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: mini camp setting, in the Ota setting, he's shown an 152 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: ability to make plays in the passing game, and that's 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: certainly been very encouraging all indications from his teammates. Already 154 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: knows the playbook very well, already has a firm grasp 155 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: of it, so that's helping him to play fast. His 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: speed is what separates him and makes him a matchup 157 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: problem for opposing defenses. So he has the athletic ability, 158 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: but if you can't process this offensive scheme quick enough, 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: that speed that he offers can't be put on the 160 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: field and put on display. So having picked up the 161 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: offense quickly I think has enabled his athletic ability to 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: show here pretty evidently. Now again, we still have to 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: get the pads on and does his game change when 164 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: that happens, I don't know. We'll have to see. Tommy 165 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Sweeney's done nice as well, seventh round pick, who I 166 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: think is probably showing he's probably a better prospect than 167 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: the round in which he was drafted, and I think 168 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is very encouraged by what he has 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: been able to bring to the table. Really, guys, through 170 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: the team sessions, the team segments of practice. It's been 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: knocked Sweeney and Lee Smith, and Lee is largely on 172 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: the field in a blocking capacity. Yesterday during run game period, 173 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: they went thirteen personnel. A ton and three guys were 174 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: the ones on the field in different kinds of groupings, 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, as it pertained to a Day Bowles system. 176 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I know I talked when these guys 177 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: both got drafted that I thought it was an indication 178 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: that this was a team that was going to want 179 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: to utilize more twelve personnel groupings through the course of 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the regular season going forward into twenty nineteen. After seeing 181 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: all that thirteen personnel yesterday, you wonder if they have 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: even greater plans for the tight end position in the 183 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: scope of this offense. We don't talk much about Lee 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: Smith added to the roster of what a month six 185 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I think we all kind of assumed 186 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: that he is a likely candidate for the fifty three 187 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: man roster in that specialized role as a blocking tight end. 188 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: And also I think Sean McDermott plans on counting on 189 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: him as a leader in that room, right, Chris. I mean, 190 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Lee Smith is a roster lock, but 191 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: he's pretty close, isn't he. Yeah, Big Country knows what 192 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: his role is, he knows why he's here, and I 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: think he's kind of embraced it quite frankly. And you've 194 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: got two rookies that are eager to learn, and you know, 195 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: he's seen a lot. And I think what's also helping 196 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: Lee to at least in the blocking capacity, which is 197 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the main reason he's here, is he had Bobby Johnson, 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, as his tight ends coach in Oakland, 199 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: so he knows all the blocking techniques already coming in 200 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: the door that Bobby Johnson's gonna want from his offensive lineman, 201 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: and by extension, you know, his chief blocking tight end. 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: But I think he's taken to the leadership role in 203 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: that room very easily. And I think, you know, the 204 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: skins on the wall for Lee Smith are the years 205 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: in the league. There's nobody else in that room that 206 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: can really speak to that level of experience. Tyler Croft. Yes, 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: he's had some success in the league, but he's largely 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: been a backup in his career in Cincinnati. So, you know, 209 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: I think Lee Smith is a good fit for a 210 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: leadership role there because he's a guy that's been in 211 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the league a long time, and he's in the league 212 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: because he's willing to do the dirty work. I think 213 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: that's just the kind of leader that Sean McDermott wants 214 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: in that room. Well. As the injuries continue, it's all 215 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: about the offensive side of football. Let's talk about the 216 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Cole Beasley back in the lineup, doing a 217 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: little bit of work yesterday. John Brown has always been 218 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: and he has not taking a break. But you know 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: what's a shaken out like on at the wide receiver position. Yeah, 220 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: so we don't have Zay Jones, you don't have Robert Foster. 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Both of those guys sidelined again today. You know, Za 222 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: was out last week and then Robert injured his foot 223 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: last week and OTAs and has not participated in mini 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: camp here those far and well and again today, so 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: that puts you, you know, a little short at the position. Obviously, 226 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the guys that were rotating in with the first unit 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: yesterday with the greatest consistency were as expected John Brown, 228 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: But then you had a combination of guys. It was 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, and then it was Duke Williams, and then 230 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: even Victor Bolden got rotated in there a handful of times. 231 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: But I think the thing that I was encouraged to 232 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: see was Duke Williams flashed a little bit yesterday, and 233 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: so I think there's a there's been a steady progression, 234 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: not a rapid one, but a steady incremental progression by 235 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Duke Williams in terms of picking up the scheme, getting 236 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: on the same page with the quarterbacks. And I'm I'm 237 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: eager to see his game when the pads go on, 238 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: because I believe his game is of a physical nature, 239 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: chiefly with his size and stature. And I think when 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: the pads go on and dbs try to jam him 241 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and there are jump ball 242 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: contested situations, I think we're going to see more of 243 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: what made Duke Williams a commodity that the Bills wanted 244 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: to pursue out of the CFL. Chris Brown with US 245 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com. He's on the sidelines 246 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: at today's mini camp Day number two, and we'll stay 247 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: with Christopher as long as we can to hear this afternoon. 248 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm the wide receivers, Chris. It seems to me the 249 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Bills and you mentioned Duke Williams. They have a nice 250 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: array of various skill sets at wide receiver. A couple 251 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: of speed guys, a couple of size guys, a couple 252 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: of kind of all round type. So I don't know, 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, people will beat their hand against Wallace table. 254 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: Where's the number one receiver? I don't know who that is, 255 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: But they have a lot to choose from there, right, 256 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different types to choose from there. I 257 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: think yeah, And I think you could make the argument that, 258 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, some of the parts kind of thing. When 259 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: you don't have a true number one, it might be 260 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: harder for the opponent to really focus in on any 261 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: one person in the passing game. So, you know, if 262 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: you're playing in the Atlanta Falcons, you know you better 263 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: lock up Julio Jones in a do or die crunch 264 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: time situation because they're probably going to Julio Jones. If 265 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: this unit can kind of spread the production across the 266 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: board this year, I think it's going to be very 267 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: hard for teams to hone in on maybe that key 268 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: target that they're going to go to all the time. 269 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they might be looking at Cole Beasley 270 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: on third down because that's what he's done in this 271 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: league for seven or eight years, and they might be 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: clued into that. And film will certainly help them as 273 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: the year goes on in terms of where the tendencies 274 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: for the Bills lie in terms of down and distance 275 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: and target preference. But I think coming into this season 276 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: there's no roadmap for opposing defenses as to where the 277 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: ball is going to be going the most, and that 278 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: could potentially present an advantage to the Bills passing game 279 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: at least early in the season. You mentioned Victor Bolden. 280 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about this guy? Chris? A 281 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: guy that's probably not on too many people's radar right now. Yeah, 282 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean was with the team last year for a 283 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: while in the practice squad. Capacity signed as a future 284 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: a reserve future free agent in January. And you know, 285 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: a speed guy has some shiftiness to his game. He's 286 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: also a return candidate. If you remember, he returned some kickoffs. 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I believe a kickoff or two last year. Memory serves 288 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: as they were cycling guys through to try to find 289 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: somebody for that, so he's in the return mix. Obviously, 290 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts is the premium guy that they hope fills 291 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: that job, but he's in that competition there, and his 292 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: reps had been relatively few and far between, so it 293 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: was interesting to see him getting an opportunity with the 294 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: first unit yesterday. I would say he probably got a 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: few more reps than even Ray Ray McLeod did, who's 296 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: been working out of the slot, you know, behind the 297 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: likes of guys like Cole Beasley, But with Beasley out, 298 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, McLeod got some slot opportunities with the ones yesterday, 299 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: but it was only a handful and it was less 300 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: than even Bolden got with the Ones. With the field 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: so open a wide receiver, it some of it is 302 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: going to come down to what roles they can play 303 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: other than catching passes, running routes, and most of the 304 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: guys you're talking about speed guys are going to be 305 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: more of the return type of special teams contributor rather 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: than the coverage type of special teams contributor. Is there 307 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: anybody other than you know, anybody that jumps out as 308 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: a coverage guy rather than a return guy. Well, Duke 309 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: Williams was one of the guys that has lined up 310 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: on punt team. So he's a guy that's been going 311 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: down the field. He's also been on punt return a 312 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: couple of times. So as the returners, no, no, no, no, 313 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: as a yeah, no, as a as a as a 314 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: coverage player and uh, you know, as a guy picking 315 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: up blocks for the return man. Uh. And obviously that's 316 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: a size and stature thing, probably more than anything else. 317 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: You know, big guy that can run. I will say 318 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: this too, where I have noticed Duke Williams a little 319 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: bit more is in the blocking game for the run game. 320 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: And that is a point of emphasis for the receiving 321 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: cor this year to be a better blocking group for 322 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: the run game. There were times where this wide receiving 323 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: corps was substandard in terms of blocking down field for 324 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: running backs. Now, granted, there were a lot of times 325 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: the running backs were already engaged in initial contact before 326 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: they even reached the line of scrimmage due to some 327 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: of the problems at the offensive line experienced on a 328 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: weekly basis last season. But when they did get out 329 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of the gate and get to the second level, I 330 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: know Coach McDermott wasn't completely satisfied with the downfield blocking 331 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: by receivers, so that has been a point of emphasis 332 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: that I think will take another step again when the 333 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: pads go on in training camp. Chris Brown is with us. 334 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: He's out on the practice field day two of the 335 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Bills mandatory minicamp this week night, Sunny Day and Orchard 336 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Partner York Bills on the practice fields outside the ad 337 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center. Hey, Chris, I want to ask 338 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: you about defense a little bit. And we had a 339 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Twitter polled yesterday on our show about which unit on 340 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: defense will have the most impact for the Bills this season. 341 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Secondary linebackers, D line. D line was the winner in 342 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, like forty four percent or so, right, see, yeah, 343 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: forty two And I think a lot of people are 344 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: looking at that defensive line and looking in particular at 345 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the second year back for Trent Murphy after his horrible 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: knee injury either basically knocked him out for an entire season. 347 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Anticipating much bigger things from Trent Murphy. He has won 348 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: the respect of his coaches so far. They talk about 349 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: him a little bit as a guy who might sneak 350 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: up on people in the NFL. Do you see that 351 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: during these workouts. It's hard to see it during the 352 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: workouts only because again, guys, you know, it's hard to 353 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: replicate real football for THEE. But I will But while 354 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: I will say this, he looks you can just tell 355 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: by his body language out here that he is in 356 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: a comfort zone. Last year, at this time, he just 357 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: looked uncomfortable like he was out here. He had a 358 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: red jersey on, he was trying to do some stuff, 359 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: but you could just tell his mind wasn't right. And 360 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: I think that's why coach McDermott's comment about Tren Murphy 361 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: when he was asked about him at yesterday's press conference 362 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: was spot on. He said, it looks like he's in 363 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: an entirely different mental space, and I would completely agree 364 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: with that. You could tell just by his demeanor on 365 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: the field, how he interacts with teammates, coming off the 366 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: field with a smile on his face. He's a guy 367 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: who loves the grind. He's not happy unless he's taken 368 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: every rep he can, taking extra reps, spend an extra 369 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: ten minutes after practice to work on some pass rush technique. 370 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: He's all about the work and so when he could 371 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: not do the work or all of it anyway at 372 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: this time last year. I think it bugged him and 373 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: it affected his mood and his demeanor on the field. 374 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: That's all gone now, and so yeah, I can understand 375 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: why fans are excited about the defensive line you have 376 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: that certainly as a positive. You've got a kid in 377 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: Ed Oliver who thinks he's unblockable and has never been 378 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: blocked in his life. And then to take it a 379 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: step further with that kind of improved or anticipated play 380 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: from those two guys on the left side, that should 381 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: mean more one on ones for Jerry Hughes, who was 382 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: probably double team more than anybody else on that defensive 383 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: line last year. One of the other guys I wanted 384 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: to ask you about was I think I heard, and 385 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: maybe you can straighten it out if it's not true. 386 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips seems to be taking some first team reps. 387 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: Is that right? He's been the first team defensive tackle 388 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: next to Star Lotulelee the entire spring. So I think 389 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: what you have there is an example of yes, ed 390 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Oliver's a top ten draft choice, but he hadn't earned 391 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: anything yet. And that goes back to McDermott saying, you know, 392 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: you earn everything you get out here. So I'm sure 393 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: there might be a point in training camp, maybe a 394 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: week or so in where Ed Oliver could potentially leap 395 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: frog Jordan Phillips just by virtue of his skill set 396 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: being top ten pick worthy. I don't think we should 397 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: dismiss Jordan Phillips and his abilities though. I mean, he 398 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: was a second round pick himself, so you know he's 399 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: not some pull off the scrap heap kind of player. 400 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: He has something to offer this team. I just don't 401 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: know that he can match the explosiveness that Ed Oliver has. 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: And this is a defensive scheme that relies on the 403 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: front four getting up field fast, and I just don't 404 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: think that's an area of Jordan phillips game that matches 405 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: that of Ed Oliver. But if Ed is not bringing 406 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: it every single day, Jordan Phillips is gonna stay right 407 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: where he is as the starting three technique defensive tackle. 408 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: Now I wonder Chris if is this could at all 409 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: be looked at his an attempt to motivate in Oliver like, look, 410 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: you gotta play if you want those reps, you know, 411 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: And we were serious, Yeah, I don't think he Yeah, 412 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he needs that kind of motivation. I 413 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: think he's pretty self motivated kid. That's part of the 414 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Bill's DNA that you hear about all the time. They 415 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: look for self motivated players because when you when your 416 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: body feels like garbage in week fifteen, this coaching staff 417 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be wondering what they're going to get 418 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: out of a player in a Thursday practice when the 419 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: pads go on for the only day of the week. 420 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: And I think Ed fits that mold, and so I 421 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: think he's pretty self motivated and sitting behind you know, 422 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: a veteran in Jordan Phillips, if it motivates him all 423 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: the more, all the better. But I don't think they 424 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: feel they've got a light of fire under Ed Oliver 425 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: or you know, give him a prod by saying this 426 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: guy's in front of end until you prove otherwise. I 427 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: think that's just organically going to come out of Ed. 428 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, one of the things that emerged last year 429 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: at this time was the fact that Shack Lawson came 430 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: back and he had rededicated himself and said he's going 431 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: to focus on on his game and kind of step 432 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: it up. It seemed like he did that at least 433 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: off the field and outside the lines. What about this 434 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: year and his and his you know, emergence says maybe 435 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: a more of a force in the pass rush. Yeah, 436 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: I mean he took advantage of an opportunity last year. 437 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, Trent Murphy wasn't right, wasn't ready, and Shack 438 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: took that starting left defensive end roll and had you know, 439 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: as far as his career is concerned, a big jump 440 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: in production, whether it was him kind of getting a 441 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: knack for batting down passes even when he couldn't get 442 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, setting the edge well in the run game. 443 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a really solid season last year, 444 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: and I know Leslie Fraser was very happy with what 445 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: Jack Lawson put on tape in twenty eighteen. Now they 446 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: want to see him take another step. But now he's 447 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: running with the second team. And again, I think this 448 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: speaks to where this roster has gone from year one 449 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: to year two to year three. This gonna be a 450 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: much tougher roster to make, and if even if you're 451 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: good enough to make this roster, it's gonna be tougher 452 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: to find playing time and I think Shack Lawson is 453 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: one of those guys that fits into that second boat. 454 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: He's playing well, he's performing well, but there are still 455 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: guys in front of him that are getting the lion's 456 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: share of the reps. So unless he shows out when 457 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: he does get on the field, you know, be a 458 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: preseason or even the early stages of the regular season, 459 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: he's likely going to be a rotational guy behind Trent 460 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Murphy and Jerry Hughes. Let's talk a little bit about 461 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: the cornerback spot opposite to Tredavis. Why you got Levi Wallace, 462 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: E J Gaines, Terren Johnson, Kevin Johnson, how's it shaken 463 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: up opposite Tardavius White. Yeah, it's still Levi Wallace. He's 464 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: been running with the ones exclusively. And then Kevin Johnson 465 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: is I mean, for all intents and purposes, the second 466 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: team right corner. And I thought he's I felt he's 467 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: had a strong spring. He's been one of the five 468 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: most impressive newcomers that I've seen out here in terms 469 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: of formance. So aggressive corner, and again here's another player 470 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: when the pads go on, I think you're gonna see 471 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: the full expanse of Kevin Johnson's game. He's known as 472 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: a physical corner, not afraid to come up and label people, 473 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: and you can't do that in this kind of setting. 474 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: And so I think that pads go on. We may 475 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: see Kevin Johnson's full game, but seeing the plays he's 476 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: made on the ball here, I'm already encouraged. You add 477 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: the physicality of his game to the equation. Now they 478 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: may really have a steal in free agency at three 479 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: or four million dollars for this season. Chris, I'm no 480 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: injury report coming out today. We'll get one tomorrow, I 481 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: would think from Sean McDermott. But yesterday Karen Johnson was 482 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: he limited or not at all working out yesterday? You remember, Yeah, 483 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: he's limited and his reps were cut back because I 484 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: did see Sir and Neil that nickel corner role. So 485 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: he rotated in there a little bit. But Johnson did 486 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: come in with the first unit as well. I think 487 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: they're really trying to get Sarran up to speed on 488 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: that role. I think they're very intrigued with Surran as 489 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: a potential hybrid type player who's capable of maybe playing 490 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: that third linebacker spot, you know, an obvious passing down 491 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: but it's a coverage role where he's also kind of 492 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: the nickel corner or a third safety type that can 493 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: get down in the slot and cover that slot receiver. 494 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: So I think they really want to work with him 495 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: in that role, and they're trying to give him some 496 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: premium reps against top competition on the other side of 497 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the ball to see how well he can acclimate to that. 498 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: And this is a kid that's handled multiple jobs even 499 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: in his college career. He played linebacker, safety, and corner 500 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville State during his college career, so handling multiple 501 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: roles is not something that's foreign to him at all. 502 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: So I think they really are experimenting here to see 503 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: if he could be a potential answer there. Because you 504 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: do have Raphael Bush, the veteran who's still on this roster, 505 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: but I believe he's entering the last year of what 506 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: was a two year deal. I could be wrong on that. 507 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: It might be a three year deal, but I want 508 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: to say in my head it was a two year deal. 509 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: So this is Rafael Bush's potentially last year on this roster, 510 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: and if Neil develops and comes along like they hope 511 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: he does, you know, Bush is probably out the door 512 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: and not resigned because Neil's ready to ascend to that role. 513 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: Could it mean more also gives them more flexibility in 514 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: their roster makeup. They could go with one or less 515 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: defensive back, knowing that a guy can play both safety 516 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and that big linebacker spot or drop down in slot coverage, 517 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing where they got more 518 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: guys that can do more things. That means they can 519 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: take they can keep fewer defensive backs or maybe one 520 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: less defensive back because of this guy's flexibility. Yeah. I mean, 521 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: as much as you hear about position flex on the 522 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, it goes both ways, right, guys, So you 523 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: got you gotta defensive back. They can do all those 524 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: things and at least prove to you he can handle 525 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: the mental load that that requires. Yeah, I mean, you 526 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: you afford yourself some opportunities to be flexible with how 527 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: you shape your roster. You know, maybe instead of ten 528 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: defensive backs, you're only keeping nine because you've got a 529 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: guy that can kind of play a coverage role while 530 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: also playing a safety slash linebacker hybrid. So yeah, absolutely, Steve, 531 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: we haven't earn much about E. J. Gaines, who's back 532 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: in Buffalo this spring, Chris, is he a candidate for 533 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: a nickel corner or is he strictly a boundary guy? 534 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: And how's he doing? How's he looked? Yeah, he's kind 535 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: of shifted more to the boundary now. Early in OTAs 536 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: he was part of that nickel corner mix rotating through, 537 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: but in week three of OTAs he kind of slid 538 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: back to like second or third team nickel where Neil 539 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: had kind of leap frog him for some of those 540 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: snaps in the slot. And I think they've kind of 541 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: it looks as though, I don't want to say it's 542 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: a dead thing for free J Gains that will never 543 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: line up in the slot again, but it seems like 544 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: his reps have steadily shifted more to the outside. Now. 545 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: He was getting reps at outside corner with the second team, 546 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: he was Trudevious White's back up at the left corner spot, 547 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: but on the whole he was mixing and matching inside 548 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: and outside. More of his reps now have moved outside, 549 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: so it looks like that's where his position role is 550 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: headed at this time. All right, hey, Chris, thanks for this, 551 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: good talking with you. We'll do at the end tomorrow, 552 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: I hope. Right, Yeah, we'll be here. Thanks Chris Brown 553 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com joins us from 554 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: outside to day two of the mandatory minicamp under Wayne. 555 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: We had a good long chat with Chris that was fun. Um. 556 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: You know, he said something you're you're optimistic. I am 557 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: as well about the upcoming season. But when Chris started 558 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: talking about how difficult it could be to make this 559 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: roster or to get reps, it makes you think it's 560 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: been an upgrade almost across the board in every position group. 561 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: It's been an upgrade for this team. But I've been 562 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: telling you that you don't take my word for it, 563 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: but you're right right when Brownie says, I get it though, 564 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: I see myself too, said we got some numbers here 565 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: here right, Yeah, I agree with you, And it was 566 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: I harkened back those days when we were you know, 567 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: when I was playing, it was a really difficult roster making. 568 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: You The hard part is you see these guys get 569 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: cut from your roster and they go on to have 570 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: really nice career with another team, and it's like it's 571 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: just no room for him on your on your squad. 572 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: You get a guy like Eja Games who comes back 573 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: as a corner and he had some really good moments 574 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: here as a bill two years ago, and two is 575 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: the start, and all of a sudden, why you don't 576 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: have a spot for him. It's it's a good place 577 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: to be, but it's wow, gosh, you know, I wish 578 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: I wish you had room for sixty guys on the 579 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: roster rather than fifty three. Yeah. Anyway, glad to have 580 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Chris with us to go over what's going on out there. 581 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot going on in here with a 582 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: pretty good show coming up. Chris Brown joined us. As 583 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, we got Kim Jones here. She's out there 584 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: right now watching practice. Kim Jones from the NFL, and 585 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: that one of our favorite guests is here to join 586 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: us about one o'clock or so after practice. We expect 587 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: to hear from Josh Allen. He'll do a news conference 588 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: for the media today and new offensive line coach Bobby 589 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Johnson will appear with this after practice as well. Two 590 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: o'clock Andrew Brandt the business of football. There's a lot 591 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: to talk about with him. We got a lot to 592 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: do here today. Steve, you better be on your game. Man. 593 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. I was thinking just the opposite man. 594 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: Show takes care of itself. We got all these people. 595 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: This is a this is a good show. I mean, 596 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Andrew Brand is always good. He's got 597 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: stuff about the CBA negotiations that are going on. It 598 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: doesn't run out till twenty twenty one. A lot of 599 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: posturing going on even now. And of course Kim Jones 600 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: is great. I mean, she's she covers the Jets, Giants 601 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: and Jets really hardcore these days, so it'll be fun 602 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: to talk to her as well. Gonna have a good 603 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: a good day, a good show, and we got a 604 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: good Twitter pole coming up. We'll get that to you 605 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: when we come back after this break. Come on back. 606 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: The show's gets just getting started. One Bill's Live, presented 607 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: by a lot of health from One Bill's Drive on 608 00:30:54,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. I know they're welcome. It is One 609 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, ma'am. That first a few minutes, just rocketed 610 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: through that with Chris Brown, Steve and I just spent 611 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: most of the last five minutes during the break patting 612 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: ourselves on the back of about what this segment that was. 613 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: But it is. Look, you're driving around, right, you're your 614 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: salesman driving around listening to the show. You're you're home, 615 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: maybe for some reason today home watching TV and if 616 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: you want to know up to date what's going on 617 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: with the bills. There it is. There, You're watching practice 618 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: on TV, You're listening to Brownie on the sidelines. There 619 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: it is. That's what Mini camp looks like. Feels like, 620 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: that's what people are talking about. Um. I like that segment. Yeah, 621 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Like I like, let's do it again, Chris come back. Well, 622 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: it's it's great for you and me. It's all we 623 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: do is, Hey Brownie, what do you see here? Hey Brownie? 624 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: What about this? Hey Brownie, what do you I've always 625 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: said this ever since I started being affiliated with the show, 626 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: and before when I was just coming on. I'd come 627 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: on once in a while as a guest. Brownie's eyeball 628 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: deep in that oh yeah, he and when he were 629 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: you there rant this way right, because we go out 630 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: there and I do the same thing. You and I 631 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: go out there and we're yucking it up with whoever 632 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: we see out there. Were because in my defense, I 633 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: saw Joe Foyle, I saw Lynn Jackets. I had to 634 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: say Hi, I had to be nice at these guys. 635 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: But Chris is all businesses Brownie goes out there. It's 636 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: like he's studying film man. He's watching the lines, he's 637 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: watching this, he's watching that. He never takes his eyes 638 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: off the field. And I'm gonna next time I see him, 639 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tea himcause nobody wants to talk to him, 640 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: so can he can concentrate. But everybody else is out 641 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: there hobnob and get hugged. Hey, how's it going? You know? 642 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: Brownie went on a rant about how nobody watches I watched, 643 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: nobody watches the open practice, and nobody goes out there 644 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: and watched they all go out there and glad hand 645 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: and yuck it up. And just in particular, he was 646 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how I got I asked him about 647 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley because I heard Brownie's report yesterday and read 648 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: that Cole Beasley was back, and I thought, I don't know, 649 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: and I asked, Brownie goes, that's because nobody watches. Uh, 650 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley didn't do anything, just a couple of individual 651 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: things that Brownie got off on a rant. You got 652 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: this second right, That felt like a good Chris brown rant. 653 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: I love that. I love when he's sitting out here 654 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: doing it. We we're gonna have a Yeah, we're gonna 655 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: have a pool, an office pool as to who can 656 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: say me me or you can get Brownie off on 657 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: a rant here when he's in. He's great, he's a plus. 658 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: We got a good show today. As they said, Kim 659 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: Jones watching practice for NFL Network. We'll hear from her. 660 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: We'll hear from Josh Allen after today's practice. Bobby Johnson, 661 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: Build's new offensive line coach joins us in studio. Andrew 662 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: Brant is going to join us. We got a good 663 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: show tomorrow, Steve, you won't be here right but tomorrow 664 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Chris Brown again, Met Bone's gonna join us, and new 665 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers coach Chad Hall. Welcome to the show. You're like, 666 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: we're just getting it started. Steve's got a couple of 667 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: days off of big family wedding and you're, yeah, a 668 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: huge event for the family coming up this weekend. It's 669 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna last tomorrow, the next day, the next day, 670 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: the next day. And I actually have Monday off too 671 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: because well travel and we got a bunch of people 672 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: and aren't leaving until like Tuesday, so and I'm kind 673 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: of hostess with the mostess, So I got to hang 674 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: out and be there for all our out of town 675 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: guests that are in there. And it's yeah, it's huge weekends. 676 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: So Dad Brown's gonna join us tomorrow. Oh you're welcome. Yes, 677 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: and don't don't be afraid to ask me for the 678 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: days off. I'll ask. I have nothing to do with 679 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: your days. Dad Brown will collas with us tomorrow. Chris Brown. 680 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: It's hey, a couple of Browns. Chris Brown on Friday, 681 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: as we wrap up the week. By the way, Friday's show, 682 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's gonna join us in studio for kind of 683 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: a wrap up of Mini Camp tomorrow show. As I said, 684 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: Matt Bowen, Chad Hall, we got this is a great 685 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: week for us. It's really good. This is fun week 686 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: with Mini Camp going on, all these guys and plus 687 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer on Friday as well. The fun part is 688 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: everybody parachuting into town. Yeah, Kim Jones today, But you know, 689 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I think you know it's the last week on the field. 690 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, next time we see many of these people, 691 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: it'll be a training camp. It'll be Rochester time. Right. Hey, Um, 692 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: we got a good Twitter poll today and we want 693 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: to get you involved in ittoor a twitter question anyway, 694 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: and it deals with this Bill's roster. We're kind of 695 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: getting our arms around the roster. Who's here, who might play? 696 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Where the Bill spent the offseason obviously adding talent in 697 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: the draft, end in free agency. So today we ask 698 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: you this question, and you can respond on the phone 699 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: lines at eight O three oh five fifty or toll 700 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 701 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: Send it a tweet. We might use it on the 702 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, or you can there's no poll, but that's 703 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: the way to get back to us. And it's a 704 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: pretty simple question. So I always say the simpler questions 705 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: are the best. Which new Bills edition are you most 706 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: excited to watch? Now? Who's gonna have the biggest impact now? 707 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: Who's going to determine wins and losses? But who are 708 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: you most excited to watch? Which new addition to the 709 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's roster? Give us a call, we'll talk about 710 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: an eighth three fifty, toll free one eight eight eight 711 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or send it a tweet. 712 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: We might read it. And the thing about this is 713 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: some of these people that you might be interested in watching. 714 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: May not make the squad preseason might be the only 715 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: time you're gonna get a chance to see him. There's 716 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, like we've been talking about, it's 717 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: a more difficult roster to make. Some of these guys 718 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: may not be like the Ed Olivers of the world, 719 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: who you know, are gonna be there and you're gonna think, Okay, 720 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna have an impactage you might be a great 721 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: player forever. I'm really excited to see him first. Some 722 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: of these guys might be just guys you're rooting for, 723 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like the David Sills of the world. 724 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, guys you really gonna want to see make 725 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: the roster surprise some people. Duke Williams uh, some of 726 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: these other additions to the to the roster Tommy Sweeney, 727 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Is he gonna make it? Is that you know? Is 728 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: he gonna actually stick to the roster He's gonna be 729 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy, or is he gonna emerge as 730 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: this great guy? Could be a guy like Tyler Croft. 731 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: We don't even know what he looks like in a 732 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: Bill's uniform, right, yeah, I mean, we don't even know 733 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: what he looks like when he lines up. We hadn't 734 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: even gotten to see his body language or what he 735 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: looks like. So a lot of this stuff is up 736 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: in the air, and it's up to you. You can 737 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: call us and see what you want. It doesn't have 738 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: to be it's not the biggest, the most brightest, the 739 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: biggest name, or whatever. When they say it could be 740 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris, a guy that's gonna disappear after week one, Right, 741 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: he's gonna be in there. So who's excited to watch 742 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: a center? Right? Somebody is somebody, somebody in the Mitch 743 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Morris family's gonna call in and say, hey, I'm glad 744 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: we got Mitch Morris. I know he's gonna be about important, 745 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: impactful player on this roster. Excited to watch the new center? 746 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Come on, we can do better? Now? Are you excited 747 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: to watch a new center? I will At some point 748 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yeah, that's I'm gonna watch him. I 749 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: want to see what he I want to see what 750 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: y But let me tell you that that's not the 751 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: guy that No. Not for me. My pick would be 752 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: John Brown, the guy I talked about for almost a year. 753 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: You're emotionally invested. Well, I was on him a year ago, 754 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: the Bills were too they can signed him. Baltimore did, 755 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: but I want to see, you know, maybe he is 756 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: the number one receiver. I don't know, we'll see. I'm 757 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing him. What about you, which 758 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley? Yeah? Catching six yards plates and a hot 759 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: second for a hot minute. I played that spot in 760 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: the NFL and and I taught he's like my size, 761 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: my hide, my weight. Um, he's doing it in a 762 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: more modern era. He's had some success doing it for 763 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: a different franchise. Yeah, I want to see him because 764 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: I can kind of climb inside that skin for just 765 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: a hot minute and understand what he's going through. So 766 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: I want to see him. How he does. I want 767 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: to see how he plays. Which new addition to the 768 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: roster are you most excited to watch? Not who's gonna 769 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: have the biggest impact, excited to watch? Let's go to 770 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 771 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Which new offseason 772 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: edition are you most excited to watch? Nick writes in 773 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: it has to be the two wide receivers picked up 774 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: in free agency. The Whiteouts were extremely disappointing. I cannot 775 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: wait to see just how good they can be as 776 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: an outlet and as a deep threat for Josh Allen. 777 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: In my opinion, their addition along with them any offensive 778 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: lineman signed for the running game and passing will flourish 779 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: for other characters. I get it. John Brown is my pick. 780 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him. I'm excited to see the 781 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: speed that he has that is kind of underrated. I 782 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: think I'm excited to see the deep past dimension taking 783 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: advantage of what the best that Josh Allen has to offer. 784 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: A veteran who should know how to play, he should 785 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: know how to get ready to play. Yeah, he's my pick. 786 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm most excited to Well, he'd be the most impactful edition. 787 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I'm most excited to 788 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: watch him. Those two guys put the wide receiving cord 789 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills from question marks too credible. You 790 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: know they've had some success and some experience in the 791 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: National Football League, and you think they've got to be 792 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: considered just a big upgrade in a lot of different ways. Now, 793 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: certainly some of those upgrades may be intangible in their experience, 794 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: in their ability to know what a professional football player 795 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: does and acts and how he is and how they 796 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: act in the meeting room and on and off the field, 797 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: but certainly too on the field. They give it some credibility, 798 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: some proven production, and I think that's going to be 799 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see and I think it changes the expectations 800 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: from that group. And we also got one from all 801 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: This one really got me. This is exactly why we 802 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: asked this question from go Billers, because this is about you. 803 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: It's not about who the biggest name is, who the 804 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: most famous person is. But from go Billers, he tweets 805 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: in am I the only one excited about Kevin Johnson. 806 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: I understand his history, his injury history, but the dude 807 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: is talented and he's right. The guy was a first 808 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: round draft pick at corner. He's got unbelievable measurables. He's long, 809 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's big at that corner spot. He could 810 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: we've given the ability to stay healthy, be an absolute 811 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: plug and play guy. It could be he could up 812 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: his presence if he plays like Tredavious does on the 813 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: other side, he could upgrade that whole defense. Because we've 814 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: talked off and on all offseason about you get two 815 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: locked down corners that changes everything. And if he comes 816 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: out and turns out to be that, Wow, that defense 817 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: turns into something not just solid and good and a 818 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: number two defense, and it could be a special defense. 819 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's interesting to think about it. And yeah, 820 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson's got a chance to do that. Yeah. I mean, 821 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: we talked yesterday about how up against it the Bills. 822 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: We're a week three last season, right, Bonte Davis walked away, 823 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: they had a couple of injuries. All of a sudden, 824 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: they have Ray Lewis. They're not Ray Lewis, Ray Ryan Lewis, 825 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Lewis. Ryan Lewis starts within her. Ryan Lewis signed 826 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: to the roster, undrafted rookie free agent for Pittsburgh, starting 827 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Mikings. So I did, okay, but that's 828 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: the buying they were in last year. And when we 829 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: went through kind of the corners with Brownie a few 830 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: minutes ago, all of a sudden, you come to the 831 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: realization we got players. Now, we have bodies right where 832 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: to the point where you know, you haven't seen or 833 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: heard much about e J. Gaines because he's struggling to 834 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: get snaps. I think that's important you know the depth 835 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: there has been built up for There are three guys there, 836 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, EJ. Gaines, Tara Johnson, Levi wa four names. 837 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: And if the Bills lined up and they're playing base 838 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: defense and they got any one of those four guys 839 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: lined up, You're not given it a second thought. They're like, Okay, 840 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, you know, but Ryan Lewis is like, 841 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: who who's that? Right? Like Metall, what are we gonna do? 842 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the starting lineup? Yeah, but any one of 843 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: those four names four, you're going, yeah, okay, let's go. Yeah. 844 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: You know, who are you most excited about? Which Bill's 845 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: offseason edition? Draft? Free agency? Maybe you like Ed Oliver. 846 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: That's a legitimate answer. Which Bill's offseason edition are you 847 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: most excited to watch this year? Give us a call. 848 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: We'll discuss eighth three, five fifty and toll three one 849 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Just getting started, 850 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: Stephen I coming back. One Bial's Live from One Bill's 851 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. One Bill's Live Steve Tasker 852 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: with John Murphy. We're here at our studio at the 853 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: Orchard Park's a beautiful day here. Steve just well it 854 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: was tough to leave practice spectacking because it was so 855 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: nice out there, right, nice hacking. It really pumped a 856 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: what here's your question, Which New Bills offseason edition are 857 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: you most excited to watch? People are going hard on 858 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: Mitch Morse, right, and couple of tweets you saw, Oh 859 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: yeah hard. I get it. I'm excited. They have a 860 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 1: brand new offensive line with a great potentially great center 861 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of it. I get it. I'm excited 862 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: to watch him well, you know, maybe for one or 863 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: two plays. You know, I get it. I get it. 864 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: But there's a couple others too, like Swie's nice suits 865 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: and I'm offense. On offense, I'm excited to see what 866 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: all three running back editions do to compliment Shady and Josh. 867 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: I think Yeldon could be a big time contributor that 868 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: isn't getting any hype at all right now on defense, 869 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see how well Ed Oliver 870 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: impacts the rest of the unit front to back. The 871 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: running back position is a little bit intriguing. Three new 872 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: faces that are prominent. I mean, they might all not 873 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: all make it, but you know, Devin Singletary, Frank Gore 874 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: and t J. Yeldon. Those are three guys that you 875 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of think you plug in at the top of 876 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: the top of most teams depth chart. But with Shady 877 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: McCoy there, you know, he might be the only holdover. 878 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: That's it's an interesting roster there and and that's true, 879 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: but I don't know if all four of those guys 880 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: make it. Here's a call from uh Timent Buffalo. Go 881 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: ahead time, Welcome to the show, afternoon, guys. You know, 882 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: growing up, I used to play offensive and defensive line, 883 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: and I played every position and special team Steve, but hey, 884 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: when I watched the football game, I would always watch 885 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: the big play. And when I was watching with my buddy, 886 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: I would say, did you see that? And he's like no, 887 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: And I would ask him what were you watching and 888 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: he's like, I was watching the offensive line and the 889 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: defensive line. I was watching the line and it's like 890 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: why and he's like, well, that's where the real battle is. 891 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: And I had to train my eyes to start watching 892 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: the line during the game because I would. He would 893 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: always say, you'll see the big play. They'll they'll put 894 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: it on replay and you won't miss it. But the 895 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: real workers in the trenches. Good point. I get it. 896 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: Good point. Here's a call from That's a good point, 897 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: comedy Hill. I go on a hello, Dominic, what do 898 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: you got something to say? Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, Dominic. 899 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited to see Devil's Devin singles Are 900 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 1: you play? I think that if he can prove himself, 901 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: he's going to prove himself to be our our number 902 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: one for a couple of years to come. After Shady 903 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: hangs up the cleats, I think with the Eldon as 904 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: a slid backup, but he sticks around, Singletary's gonna make 905 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: a real impact. And what do you do with Gore? Dominic? 906 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: What's up? What do you do with Frank Gore? I 907 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: mean him and Shady are both up there. I think 908 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: Gore can stick around to be that uh, that goal 909 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: line push type guy. But I don't see him. I 910 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: don't see either of him really having much less than 911 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: the tank after this year? All right, well this year, 912 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you keep Shady and Gore 913 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: and Yelden and Singletary? You keep all four? If he 914 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: gotta make a cut or a trade. Maybe, as much 915 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: as it pains me to say, maybe maybe Shady and 916 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: Gore if we're playing it for the future. It would 917 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: be a blow to see him go. But yeah, I 918 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: don't even answer for that question. Need do thank you 919 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: your call dominics. He I don't even answer of how 920 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: that's a hard question and you gotta let and this 921 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: is one of the things it's hard to do. But 922 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: you just got to step back and let those guys decide, 923 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: and they decide with their play. Best guys play, it's 924 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: all there is to it. The guys with enough in 925 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: the tank. If if Frank Gore comes out and plays, 926 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: he's got energy and jumping his step and he's gonna 927 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's proven he's a durable guy. 928 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Same thing with Shady he's got to come out and 929 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: prove it. Same thing with Devin Singletary and t J. Yeldon. 930 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: The best guy stays, that's all there is to it, 931 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: and the guy who can contribute the most and maybe 932 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: in the most different ways. That doesn't mean just in 933 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: the run game, in the past game. It may mean 934 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: on special teams, it may mean on doing some of 935 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: the other stuff, and a role player. But you gotta 936 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: let them decide. We don't have to decide sitting here, 937 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: the coaches do, and whoever plays best, whoever offers the 938 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: most to the roster, stays and the other guys. As 939 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: hard as it is and as difficult as it is is, 940 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: they need to go. That's the way it goes. Hey, 941 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: we got a great guest coming up next. She is 942 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: here to watch the Bills in minigamp, taking a few 943 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: minutes out to spend with us. Kim Jones from NFL 944 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: Network's going to join us on the set in just 945 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: a moment. Come on back. One Bill's Live presented by 946 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: Kalid to Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. 947 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 1: Hello Bills Radio. Network. Sports Day Update from One Bill's 948 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Drive at his day two of the Bills Miniicamp. The 949 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: mandatory Miniicamp underway outside here at One Bill's Drive and 950 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 1: the Bills. We'll talk about today's session afterwards. Today, johns 951 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: Allen going to meet with the media. We'll have offensive 952 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: line coach Bobby Johnson here on the show after practice today. 953 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders are this year's Hard Knocks team, but 954 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be their final training camp as the 955 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders before they moved to Las Vegas. We'll be 956 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: documented by the HBO crew Hard Knocks this August. Owner 957 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: Mark Davis and coach John Gruden have aired their displeasure 958 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: at camera's peering into their privacy, but both have resigned 959 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: themselves to say that the Raiders are the right team 960 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: to host Hard Knocks Hockey Tonight, Game seven of the 961 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Finals eight o'clock faceoff and Boston the Saint 962 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: Louis Blues and the Boston Bruins playing for the Stanley Cup. 963 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: Bruins defenseman Met Graulchick has been medically cleared from a 964 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: concussion and is likely to play tonight, a game time decision, 965 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: according to Bruins coach Bruce Cassidy. Cassidy said rookie Connor 966 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: Clifton will probably be bumped from the lineup if Graulchick 967 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: goes in tonight against the Saint Louis Blues, one more 968 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: night before the NBA Finals resume. Game Game six of 969 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals Tomorrow night, Toronto at Golden State. That's 970 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: a nine o'clock tipoff on ABC tomorrow night. Warriors star 971 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: forward Kevin Durant is in New York City undergoing an 972 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: MRI and is injured Achilles. League sources say the team 973 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: believes the MRI will confirm an achilles there that Durant 974 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: suffered in the second quarter of the Golden State Winner 975 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: for Toronto on Monday. And that is the update from 976 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tansker. Our number 977 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: two is the Bills continue their practice this outside on 978 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: the grass practice field, and we're joined in studio by 979 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: one of our favorite guests from the NFL Network, capping 980 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: to have Kim Jones and studious. Welcome to you guys. 981 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: You need a retractable roof today. It's so nice hair, sun, 982 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: the sun looks great, the blue sky. I love it. 983 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: And this is unusual for us this time of year. 984 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: It's been a rough spring. Oh, spring has been a 985 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 1: disaster in New Jersey. So yeah, we're not alone. No, 986 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: you're not alone. What'd you think? What's what's practice looks 987 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: like to you? Nice atmosphere out there. It looks like 988 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just saying, do you stee I 989 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: mean Tremaine Edmonds. Clearly he's a young player. As we know, 990 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: he came here at what nineteen is with the combined 991 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: at nineteen. Yeah, he um, I got to fix my 992 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: hair from the wind um. He looks to me. He 993 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: looks bigger to me, and I've got to imagine he'll 994 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: be one of these many players who benefit from being 995 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: second year or not first anymore. So he looks him. 996 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: He's the first one that caught my attendant. His wingspan 997 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: is is nbash. I mean, it's incredible. He's freakish, yes, 998 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: and he's you're right, he's nine feet tall, looks like yeah, 999 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: and he he got better as last year went on, 1000 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: and you think, okay, if he's going to keep progressing. 1001 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: But it's him, and the whole team revolves around offense defense. 1002 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: It's Tremaine Edmunds on offense, and of course Josh yep, 1003 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean Train Evans on defense and Josh on offense, 1004 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 1: and kind of those are the lynch pins. Do you 1005 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: think they can continue to improve both sides that I 1006 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: don't know why not? I mean quarterbacks. You know, it's 1007 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: almost cliche that they make such a big jump year 1008 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: one to year two, but they certainly should and will, 1009 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: and I bet all of them in that class to 1010 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: some degree, we will be a better NFL person and 1011 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: player than he was last year. Steve and I talked 1012 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot about and of course we're here. We're embedded 1013 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: here into the Bills, into the Bills culture. But we, 1014 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: I think have a higher regard for Josh and his 1015 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: potential than many people outside. Yeah, and we see every play, 1016 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: we see many practices. Are we right about that and 1017 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: wrong about that? Too optimistic about what Josh might become? Well, 1018 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, and I don't know what any 1019 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: of them can become. You know, at the combine this year, guys, 1020 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to you know, talent evaluators about the 1021 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this draft. Yeah, and a couple of them 1022 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: said to me, we don't know what the quarterbacks in 1023 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: last year's draft are yet, let alone what the ones 1024 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: coming in. And someone said to me, I think Josh 1025 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: Allen's going to be the best of the group by 1026 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: the end of it. You know. So there are opinions 1027 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: that are very high on Josh and probably high on 1028 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: some of the other quarterbacks. Well, can I just say 1029 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: I have a theory that so many Josh was like 1030 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: a polarizing figure in the draft in twenty eighteen, and 1031 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: all of those who said he's not a first round 1032 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: don't drat him. I think those people in essence almost 1033 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: hold a grudge anything that he did. What he did 1034 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: last year and could be eventually be a good point. 1035 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's because he ran so much. Yeah, 1036 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: so I think we tend to like almost knock a 1037 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: quarterback for that because it's always quote unquote out of 1038 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: necessity or out of you know, some sort of a 1039 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: desperation field by the quarterback, which you guys would know 1040 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: better than anyone. It wasn't always those things. But you know, 1041 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 1: I think him running less often this year would be 1042 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: a plus. Though. I think he's going to get more 1043 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: help in the backfield, and you know, sounds like he 1044 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: has more help up front. Yeah, speaking of Helby, he is. 1045 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: It's the second year in the same system, and you 1046 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: look at all the other guys that were drafted, every 1047 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: single one of them is now new offense, new offensive coordinator, 1048 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: new head coach, all of that. Sam Dart, you cover 1049 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: the Jets extensively, were to the offense in a minute. 1050 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: But that could be aside from the market the strides 1051 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: that he made last year could be the best thing 1052 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: for him is the continuity. I was just having that 1053 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: conversation with a Bills person as we were watching practice 1054 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: that he gets a second year in the same offense 1055 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: and that's big. H What do you think of the 1056 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: additions the Bills have made Cole Beasley and John Brown 1057 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: and the offensive line revamp. What do you think? Obviously 1058 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: we don't know, but it's pretty significant and an aggressive 1059 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: move by the Buffalo Bills to and all these people. Yeah, 1060 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: and we've seen teams be aggressive with the O lines 1061 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: in particular, right, We've seen teams tear them down. We've 1062 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: seen teams give up on what we're bad signings anyway, 1063 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: and they give up on him and they move on. 1064 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: So I do it doesn't surprise me that a Brandon Bean, 1065 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, and by the way, Kim and Terry Pagoula 1066 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills organization would be aggressive with that stuff doesn't 1067 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: prize me at all. Cole Beasley was always someone that listen, 1068 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: the Giants are happy he's out of the NFC East, 1069 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. He was always a safety 1070 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: valve in Dallas, and I have to believe he'll be 1071 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: that for Josh John Brown. I remember Bruce arians loving 1072 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: John Brown when he had him. Um, So you know, 1073 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what it will be now, but I 1074 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: do a radio show in New York and someone called 1075 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 1: and I had mentioned on the air this past weekend 1076 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: that I was going to be in Buffalo, and someone 1077 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: called it and said, watch David Sills. He's gonna make 1078 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: that team. And you know, there's so many receivers here 1079 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: who do have a chance. So yeah, that's one of 1080 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: the things we've got out. We have a Twitter question 1081 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: or Twitter pool every day, and one of the things 1082 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: there's so many new faces. In fact, our own guy 1083 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Chris Brown said an opening day this there may be 1084 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: fifty percent of this roster new YEP, which is unbelievable 1085 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: in the third year of agis they keep churning it over. 1086 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: But our question today is who's the most you know, 1087 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 1: which new face are you most excited to see? Right again, 1088 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: I know you're you're not in depth as we are, 1089 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: right what do you think I'd say the Center? I mean, 1090 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm indication right there. You get excited about watching centers. 1091 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch Josh Allen, and I think the 1092 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: Center helps them as much as anyone help. You will help. 1093 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not excited. I hope you and absolutely favorite guest 1094 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: all the time. But listen, I'm also excited to see 1095 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 1: Frank Gore. I love the potential um of of Shady 1096 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: and Frank Gore. Um. You know, who knows what ends 1097 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: up happening, but it certainly seems like this organization's open 1098 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: to both of them being on the roster and both 1099 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: of them being contributors and being competitive for carries as 1100 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: we know they will be because they are NFL players 1101 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: who have had great careers more than twenty five thousand 1102 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: rush yards between them. I just I love it and 1103 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward. I think I'm interviewing both of them 1104 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: together today, by the way, which makes me really excited. 1105 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: And I'm getting joh By himself, which I'm really excited about. 1106 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: But um, I mean, Frank Core would be an easy 1107 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: answer too. By the way, what did you see in 1108 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: Because I watched him last year a little bit in Miami, 1109 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: and Adam Gay said, listen, I brought him in to 1110 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: Miami because he's that guy. He's a he's a lead dog, 1111 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: and he's an example setter and he's a culture change guy. 1112 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: And I brought him in and then all of a 1113 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: sudden it turns in he's the guy down there. So yeah, 1114 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, but man, thirty thirty six year old guy 1115 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: I know, well, Neither one of those two, Leshawan or 1116 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: Frank got the memo about thirty year old running back, 1117 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: So that's for sure. Um, I bet, I bet Leshawn, 1118 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: and I'll ask him. I bet he's a little bit 1119 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: energized by this. Sure, you know, I mean, he's it's 1120 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: only natural that he would be. And I'm sure that 1121 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: you have great mutual respect for each other. But um, 1122 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 1: what did you ask me that I was going to 1123 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 1: get to that? I interrupted myself. Um about Frank about 1124 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: thirty six years old, being thirty six, the lead dog 1125 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: and the lead Oh oh about what we saw? Well, 1126 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. A play he made for the 1127 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: Dolphins last year against the Jets was a shoe top 1128 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: catch and ended up being a huge nineteen yard game 1129 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: that and they ended up eating the Jets that day 1130 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: on MetLife Stadium. So he can go out and run 1131 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 1: a pattern for you too with Kim Jones from NFL Network. 1132 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: She also hosts radio so what weekends only on and 1133 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: some week days it's when I can, when they ask, 1134 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: and when I can. I love radio, Yeah, I love it. Um, 1135 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time around the Jets. When 1136 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: did Adam Gase become the quarterback whisperer that many people 1137 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: attribute to him. Yeah, you having to work with Peyton Manning, okay, right, 1138 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 1: and a lot of people claim Peyton, And it's hard 1139 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: to give a lot of people other than maybe Archie 1140 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for Peyton, right, and and Peyton 1141 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: you know that's a good point. But um, yeah, I 1142 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: do think that he recognizes what a lot of people 1143 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: do in Sam Darnold, and that's someone who can move. Um, 1144 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: he processes things relatively quickly. He throws a nice ball. Um, 1145 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: he has a lot of potential. He is now learning 1146 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: an offense though that I've said on air, both on 1147 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: radio and on NFL network. I think it's going to 1148 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: take through August from to learn this offense. And I 1149 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: don't think Gace would argue with that. I mean, he 1150 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: now has an enormous learning curve ahead of him and 1151 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: going against the Greg Williams defense in the practices in 1152 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 1: mini camps I've seen, you know, aren't making it easy 1153 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 1: on him. So it's going to be interesting to see 1154 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: Sam's development. He had come a long way last year 1155 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: when he came back after that injury. Josh McCown, who's 1156 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: not with the Jets, at least not right now. Was 1157 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: vital in his development last year. Again he's gone, So 1158 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see Sam and the 1159 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: second year guys will all be fascinating to me. Let's 1160 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: put it that way. And that obviously includes Sam Donald, 1161 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: Murph and I and you know, obviously we're no Jets fans, 1162 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: but both up he and I really like Sam Donald. 1163 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to like about him, and 1164 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot to like about Josh Rosen, a lot to 1165 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: like about Baker Mayfield although I thought it's got a 1166 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: chance to be a very, very productive and good quarterback 1167 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: last top to bottom. And of course Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Well, 1168 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: they're building around, they're changing a lot of paradigm. Yes, yes, 1169 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: you think that's gonna work. I don't know if it's 1170 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna work. You know, they drafted Trace McSorley, my guy 1171 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: out of Penn State, and he works in that system. 1172 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it seems to be. And I'm not 1173 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: around the Ravens. It's been years since I've been around 1174 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens at all. Just coincidentally, but um, that seems 1175 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: to be an incredible shift, right that John Harball has 1176 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: made I give John Harball credit because he could have 1177 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: said this isn't for me, you know, and he it's 1178 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: not like he would have been without a job, so 1179 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: he committed to this and it is an enormous shift 1180 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. It's the quintessential. Listen, we're gonna let 1181 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: our players do what they do best. Yes, we're gonna 1182 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: coach the players we have. We're not gonna yeah that's 1183 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: fit them into the offense we run. And like you, 1184 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: we're far a distance away from Baltimore. But from the 1185 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: outside looking it is like, wow, what a game. It's incredible. 1186 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: I agree with the Jets. Is it all good now 1187 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: with leban Bell now that he's back, and yeah, you 1188 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: know what, Listen. You know, Odell Beckham Junior is someone 1189 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: I covered for a long time and will remain friendly 1190 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: with for a long long time. He doesn't go either. 1191 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: You know. For the most part, I just never think 1192 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: that's a big deal because if I think it's, if 1193 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: it's a big deal, then you got to give up 1194 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: something in the CBA to get mandatory and the owners 1195 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: haven't done it. So if the owners aren't doing it, 1196 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: and I know the coaches hate it when players are away. 1197 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm not fighting that battle for him. Sorry. So I 1198 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: don't even like to report on whether guys are there 1199 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: when it's voluntary. Um. And I'd love to see in 1200 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: my profession how many media people would show up if 1201 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: you too, if you said that something's completely voluntary, doesn't 1202 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: affect your job status at all and takes you away, 1203 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, from from other things that from from either 1204 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: vacations or you know, in some keys, other things that 1205 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: you want to do professionally to get better because those 1206 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: players are training. Levion belden't goo stit on the beach. 1207 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, he looks good. He is um. I 1208 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: will say he is an effervescent personality. I did not 1209 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: know that about him. He came in, he did one 1210 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: on ones with all of us. We could ask him anything. 1211 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: I asked why he stayed away. I mean it's fair 1212 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: to ask him that, you know. Um, no question was 1213 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: too tough. And then he left after minicamp and he's 1214 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: not there this week because they're back to OTAs was 1215 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: his acquisition the primary source of the conflict between mccagnen 1216 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: and Gage. I think so because of the money. C J. 1217 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Mosley was not conflict. Adam Gase said they were going 1218 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: to do whatever they had to do to get C. J. Mosley, 1219 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: and he got paid a fortune as an inside linebacker, 1220 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: but he sees him. You mentioned culture changing guys, a 1221 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: frank or can be that. They believe Mosley can be that. 1222 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: So they've invested a lot of first round picks on 1223 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: that defense and it couldn't They never could get it 1224 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to work in recent years. They believe Mosley is the 1225 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: piece that can. And also in this GM switch to 1226 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas who just found out it's going to be it. 1227 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: There was a lot of other things that added up 1228 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: to it. Wasn't just a conflict about Levon Bell that 1229 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: at no McKay. There was a lot of things along 1230 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: the line. At least it seemed like that right coming 1231 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: out of the room. I believe Christopher Johnson had made 1232 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: that decision even really going into the off season. I 1233 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: believe he made it very early on in the off season. 1234 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: But at some point you can't make that move right 1235 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: before the draft and before free free agency first, and 1236 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: then the draft. So I do think the timing lent 1237 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: to the idea. It was clumsier than I actually think 1238 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: it was. Came up here in Buffalo Bills fans would 1239 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: love it if you came on and told us how 1240 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: the Jets are in disarraye I know, I know that 1241 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,919 Speaker 1: they're going to bring Rex back and time again and yeah, mess, yeah, 1242 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: I hear you. I do think the division's really interesting now, 1243 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: you know. I think you have ascending teams, ascending quarterbacks. 1244 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, one really not ascending quarterback who just stays 1245 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: at the peak because we all know forever, forever and ever, No, 1246 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 1: you can't so um. I do think the division's really interesting, 1247 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: though it is too, especially with the Jets and Bills 1248 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: who meet week one. I mean week one, we're going 1249 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: to get the very early litmus test Darnald versus Alan. 1250 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Year two, you know, Gaye versus McDermott. What's that change 1251 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna be? Maybe more in some ways more accurately, Greg 1252 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Williams versus mc durn You know, we're going to see 1253 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: somethings week one that are going to be really interesting 1254 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: and not necessarily telling. But they oh do that, Okay, 1255 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: that contract will be good. Up to this point, the 1256 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: last eighteen months, it seems like they've been on parallel 1257 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: tracks looking for a quarterback, both with a lot of 1258 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: cap money to spend in free agency. Both on this trajectory. 1259 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Now the Bills had their head coach in place, maybe, 1260 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, obviously before the Jets made to switch to 1261 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and now the general manager switch, so they've 1262 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, now they've diverged a little bit 1263 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: at this late point, but still both teams have elevated expectations. Oh, 1264 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: no doubt. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Um. 1265 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: I think both teams see obviously the end coming for 1266 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the New England situation at some point. But I think 1267 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: they see both teams probably should see Miami as vulnerable, right, 1268 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of thing both the both 1269 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: teams should go in. The Bills and Jets should go 1270 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: into those two head to head matchups believing they can win, 1271 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: because they can. Both teams could win those games. And 1272 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that you have here is 1273 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,959 Speaker 1: the Brandon being Sean McDermott looks like something that really 1274 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: is working and going to work. And the Jets are 1275 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: now at the beginning of Gaze Douglas. Right, you'd like 1276 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: to think the Bills might be a year ahead in 1277 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: that they have to be because listen, Joe Douglas mentioned 1278 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: during his press conference that they've got the number three 1279 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: waiver claim. I told him afterwards in my one on 1280 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: one with him, I said, I've never heard maybe because 1281 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: of time of year or two, but I've never heard 1282 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: a GM at his opening press conference mentioned where he 1283 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: sits on the waiver claim wire, but he's going to 1284 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: use that because they need some help at some positions. 1285 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I know you said you haven't been around the Giants 1286 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. It seems like the firestorm 1287 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: about the quarterback draft picks died down a little bit. Yeah. 1288 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 1: I mean he's gotten rave reviews from the reporters who've 1289 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: been at mini camps and at the OTA's, so that helps. 1290 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: They are also really making sure to get the message 1291 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: out to the Giants fan that this guy will be 1292 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: a worthy air. They're talking about how he doesn't make 1293 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the same mistake twice, which I can't possibly believe as 1294 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback that would be almost unheard of. But 1295 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't make the same mistake twice, fast learner, very athletic, 1296 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: makes every throw. So they are definitely sending the message 1297 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: that they really like him internally and he's gotten some 1298 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: good reviews from the media. Well, they had also the 1299 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: thing going in where the he and Eli had a 1300 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,439 Speaker 1: previous relationship. Not much though, right, yeah, not much. Yeah, 1301 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean Eli at one point was asked if he'd 1302 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: talked to David Cutcliff during the process was process and 1303 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: was basically no, you know, like it wasn't some great 1304 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: I think when Eli had his receiver stuff at Duke, 1305 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: because he would take the receivers to Duke. He didn't 1306 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: do it this year, by the way, but m when 1307 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: he would do that, Daniel Jones sat in like a 1308 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: time or two, So I think that was sort of 1309 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: the extent of it. And I believe Daniel Jones has 1310 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: been to the Manning Passing Academy, as has probably every quarterback, everybody, 1311 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: everyone which has ever been a college quarterback has been there. 1312 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: True Kim Jones from NFL Network, And you said you 1313 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: got a one on two injury with the two running backs, right, Yes, 1314 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I think I'm getting Shady and Frank together, which makes 1315 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: me very happy. And then and I am getting Josh apparently, 1316 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: which I'm very happy about. That first thing, you're gonna 1317 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: ask Shady and Gore, Um, I think I'm going to 1318 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: ask them about the twenty five thousand yards and not 1319 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: getting the memo that this isn't supposed to still be happening. 1320 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Something along those lines. We'll say good one, yeah, and 1321 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: are you live tonight on the networker? No, those will 1322 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: be on tape, but tonight's they should be on. Yes, 1323 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: well absolutely, I hope, so I'll look for it and 1324 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: they'll be on my Twitter account. To Kim Jones Sports, Kim, 1325 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: thanks for this great seat to see you guys. Enjoy 1326 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: the rest of practice. You gotta go out and catch 1327 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the rest. I gotta go get some sun. Jones from 1328 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: NFL Network with us, Steve and I coming back. One 1329 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1330 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: One Goals Live from One Deals Drive, John Murphy and 1331 01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,040 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Those continue their day two minicam practice and 1332 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: it's over and it'll be over soon. We think we're 1333 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Josh Allenville's quarterback. He will meet the media. 1334 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: We also have an appointment here with Bobby Johnson, the 1335 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, to join us here in studio. 1336 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: How about look, look, I come on ahead. I know 1337 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is important. I know he's critical. A central 1338 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: part of what they're doing here this year is see 1339 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: the most. Are you the most excited to see him? 1340 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I didn't think so. I kind of laughed it off 1341 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: a little bit in the first hour of the show, 1342 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: and then Kim Jones comes down. I'm excited to see 1343 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris a center? Really, what are you looking for? 1344 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 1: Clean exchange of the snap A little bit of yeah, 1345 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I get excited when the exchange goes well, really, I 1346 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: don't know. And this is not against Kim. There's more. 1347 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: There's My point is there's many more things to be 1348 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: excited about. John Brown, Cole Beasley. I can accept that. 1349 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Maybe Devin Singletary gets you excited at Oliver. You know, 1350 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: what does he look like? I think the Center is 1351 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: way down on my list of things I'm most excited 1352 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: to watch. I said it there, Okay, Steve Ginnett, I 1353 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: said Cole Beasley, So I you know, I some people. 1354 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: That was I think more so than anything. When I 1355 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: saw that they signed Mitch Moore's first of all, at 1356 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: the top of it, I didn't even know who the 1357 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: guy was. I go, where'd he come? Who do he 1358 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: play for? Then I found out he was taking he 1359 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 1: was given Pat Mahomes snaps last year when he threw 1360 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: for five thousand, seventy nine yards and he played them 1361 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: and the most prolific offense in the league last year, 1362 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and he was the center guy in front of it, 1363 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of guy who's a first year starter and he's 1364 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: only twenty six. I was like, oh, man, he's way 1365 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: better than Paradis, the center from Denver. We were all 1366 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: talking about better signing. I was like, Wow, that's genius. 1367 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: And then they signed him to the high he made 1368 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: him the highest page center in the NFL history. I 1369 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh god, it's just so many things about 1370 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: that struck me as unexpected and yet very pleasant. You know, 1371 01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 1: in my what I felt about it struck a lot 1372 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: of chords with me. So I see that, and I 1373 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are kind of on that 1374 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: same you know, mind train, where you're kind of headed 1375 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: down the tracks. You feel the plan and you go 1376 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: and you're with it. And when your team, particularly Brandon Bean, 1377 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: when they do this stuff that's a little unexpected, but 1378 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: they get they find some guy you didn't know about 1379 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: that turns out to be Wow, he's better than the 1380 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: guy I'd even dreamed of. It just makes you. It 1381 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: gives you so much affirmation about the direction the club's 1382 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: headed in, and I think Mitch Morrise personifies that for 1383 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I guess for me, I love 1384 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: that signing. I'm not most excited about that. I know 1385 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: you love the signing. I didn't know who the guy was. 1386 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: I gotta admit I love the signing. I'll tell you 1387 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: what though, I've been kind of campaigning for John Brown 1388 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: for over a year, So when they sign him, how 1389 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 1: can I say anybody about him? I got it, and 1390 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I think we almost are underestimating what he might mean 1391 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 1: to this offense. But we'll have to wait and see. No, really, 1392 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. Nobody's undersked. Just because 1393 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: they don't pick him doesn't mean they're underestimating him. What 1394 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: New Bills offseason edition are you most excited to watch? 1395 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: That's the Twitter poll today. Are you insulted that I 1396 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: didn't say John Brown? No, Seriously, you sound you seem 1397 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: kind of not insulted at all. Tweet sheet now brought 1398 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the 1399 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills from Swice as Nice. I already read that 1400 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: one from Adam. Did you read twice as nice. No 1401 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I did, I did. That's the one with all three 1402 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: running backs, all right from Adam Man. I wouldn't sleep 1403 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 1: on Duke Williams. He's hungry, he's got drive. Wide receiver 1404 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: is a real competition this year. I think wide receiver 1405 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 1: is a competition for the maybe the bottom end of 1406 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: the depth chart. But I think you're right about that, 1407 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: and I agree with that. When I heard Chris Brown 1408 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: telling us about how strong Duke Williams has been and 1409 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: how many more reps he's getting in yesterday, Jones is 1410 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: a little bit banged up right now, I thought, Yeah, 1411 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: that's a guy to watch. Duke Williams a very you know, 1412 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 1: not a rookie. He's had a rough start to his 1413 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: professional football career, had success in Canada. As the great 1414 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: size that you're kind of looking for in some spots 1415 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: that you know, in some formulations of wide receiver play. 1416 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: I get it. I think Duke Williams is definitely a 1417 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye in, and I am excited 1418 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 1: about watching him for sure. Let me let me just 1419 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 1: say that, here's here's the guy. Here's the reason I'm 1420 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of way into Duke Williams. I'm just gonna read 1421 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: you the You got a five eight guy at five eight, 1422 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: guys at five eleven, five eleven, two six guys that 1423 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: are six two a five nine, a five eight, a 1424 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: six foot a five eleven, a six foot and then 1425 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: you've got six three two twenty five. There's two guys 1426 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: that are six three on this roster playing wide receiver. 1427 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Duke Williams is one of him. He weighs two twenty five, 1428 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: and David Sills is the other. He weighs two eleven. 1429 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Duke Williams is the only guy that is to me 1430 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: physically different than the rest of these guys. That's why 1431 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people I agree with the tweet. 1432 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 1: I guess he don't sleep on this guy because this 1433 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: you never know, because we'll never know what the coaching 1434 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: staff is looking for, what they see, or what they 1435 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: think about how their wide receiving corps is constructed. But 1436 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: if they've got one guy on there who's a little 1437 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 1: bit different, who's productivin, who who gives them a streak 1438 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: of nasty that Duke Williams seems to have him, you know, 1439 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: in the in the in the stuff that I've heard 1440 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: about him and seeing with from him, in Canada and 1441 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,639 Speaker 1: from talking to him, and I told you this, Murph, 1442 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far down down this 1443 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: rabbit hole I'm headed. But we got a lot of 1444 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 1: really sweetheart of a guy on this roster, a bunch 1445 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 1: of great guys. Bring him home to dinner, you love 1446 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: him and all that. But Duke Williams strikes me as 1447 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's a stone cold assassin. You need, you 1448 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: need some guys with a mean streak in and they 1449 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of set the emotional tone. Duke Williams is kind 1450 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 1: of one of those guys for me that I'm not saying. 1451 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: There's nobody else out there that does that. There there are, 1452 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: but in this wide receiver room, he seems like the 1453 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: guy who is the quintessential you know, guy that slaps 1454 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: the DB's face and says, get out of them, get 1455 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: off me. You know, a guy who's not intimidated, but 1456 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 1: in actuality, the DB's lining up and saying, oh my gosh, 1457 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: you know I hope this, You know, I hope I 1458 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: don't look bad on this rep with this guy. He 1459 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: gives you that kind of attitude. In his size, physical presence, 1460 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 1: a DB's not gonna line up and say Okay, I'm 1461 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna man handle this guy. He ain't gonna do it. 1462 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, something in me, as a 1463 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: former player, loves having guys like that on my team. 1464 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: So I think I'm I like the Duke Williams. The 1465 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: tweet about Duke william from Adam about saying, Nay, I'm 1466 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: intreat don't sleep on him. Um, if you look at him, 1467 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I envisioned for him. And I 1468 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: could be completely wrong, but I don't think. So. Okay, 1469 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: let me point this out to you too, And I 1470 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: know we have a different opinion. I think on Za Jones. 1471 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Z Jones is six two. He's a big guy now 1472 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: and he's bigger and thicker than he was, you know, 1473 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: and think in each of the last two years, I 1474 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't sleep on Za Jones either, But I look at 1475 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: him at the top of the wide receiver. Yeah, I 1476 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: don't have a hard. I have a hard And I'm 1477 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: with you. I know we've gone back and forth and 1478 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm exaggerated my feelings about z Jones. I don't think 1479 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 1: say Jones going anywhere, Okay, you know what I mean. 1480 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: I think it's like I said, it's a really rough 1481 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: roster to make, and Duke Jones signed with the Bills 1482 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 1: before they signed Cole Beasley and John Duke Williams. Duke 1483 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 1: Williams signed with the Bills long before they signed Cole 1484 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: Beasley and John Brown, and all of a sudden, Cole Beasley, 1485 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: John Brown, there's two roster spots boom gone. So now 1486 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 1: it does get tougher for Duke Williams to bust into 1487 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: that group, even you know, with Za Jones standing there right. 1488 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for what he does bring to 1489 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the table, I think that I think what I said 1490 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: about him is is still kind of the way I feel. 1491 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: We've gone through this exercise before with the wide receivers 1492 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 1: John Brown, Cole Beasley, Robert Foster, whom I'm missing it 1493 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: was a fourth. Then I think I'm not calling people locks. 1494 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: Oh Z Jones, Yes, hey, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Robert 1495 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: Foster's a Jones. None of them are locks. All of them, 1496 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: in my mind, are likely to make the rosters. So 1497 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about one or two, and I think two Max, Yeah, 1498 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and somewhere in that group you're gonna have to like 1499 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: and Andre Roberts, you know he's got he's a return guy. 1500 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 1: And unless and this is where you start to get 1501 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 1: into the you know, the gray area of roster building. 1502 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: Is there going to be a corner or somebody who 1503 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: can return kicks? You know, one of those guys, a 1504 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: guy who's who's got some uh some abilities, a skill 1505 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: set that brings you that, or one of the you know, 1506 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,640 Speaker 1: running backs or whoever. Uh, somebody's got to do that. 1507 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 1: And uh, you got a guy like Andre Roberts, he 1508 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: can who can do both kicks and punts. It's kind 1509 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: of hard to kick him to the curb led the 1510 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 1: league last year, returned talking about, Yeah, I mean, what 1511 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Which new offseason to the Bills? 1512 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: Are you most excited to watch? Jeremiah with a pretty 1513 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 1: good tweet from the tweet cheat Jeremiah says, Wow, this 1514 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: is a good one. That's a good way to get 1515 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: it read by the way, Jeremiah, Wow, this is a 1516 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: good one. There are so many, But if I can 1517 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: only choose one and have to go with Ed Oliver, 1518 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: I think his production is going to have a ripple 1519 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 1: effect throughout the entire defense. Ed Oliver is a is 1520 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: a fine choice for being excited about an offseason edition. 1521 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: He is and the the opportunities and I'm like a 1522 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 1: broke record now, the versatility that he presents, the opportunities 1523 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,560 Speaker 1: he presents for Leslie Frasier to show different looks and 1524 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: put together different looking pass rush without blitzing, but a 1525 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: different looking pass rush with a Foeman rush because of 1526 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: ed Oliver's because of his talent, because of his speed, 1527 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. And his quickness. Yeah, 1528 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: I think he opens up doors, doors of possibility for 1529 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: what their pass rush might look like. I think that's 1530 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 1: a really fine choice to say that he'd be the 1531 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: one you're most excited to watch. I think the thing 1532 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 1: that kind of excites me the most about that tweet 1533 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 1: is the last line, the ripple effect that he could 1534 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 1: have and we all know what we're talking about. He 1535 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: goes in and gets a sack, or the next play, 1536 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,719 Speaker 1: the quarterback tries to avoid him and throws a desperation throwing. 1537 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's going back the other way 1538 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and the cornerback will be dancing in 1539 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 1: the end zone or the safety be dancing the end 1540 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 1: zone with a ball after a touchdown, and it'll be 1541 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: ed Oliver's play that he made, you know, at the 1542 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 1: other end of the past. So that's the kind of 1543 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: ripple effect that kind of excites me for a guy 1544 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: like Ed Oliver, Plus the fact that you know, he's 1545 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: one of those guys that all of a sudden he's 1546 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,680 Speaker 1: got three tackles for loss in one game, you know 1547 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, with a running back jumps through and 1548 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: he's that guard has no chance of getting him. That's 1549 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: the fun part of thinking about what at Oliver could 1550 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 1: do playing a position that you know he was just 1551 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 1: cut out to play. It's gonna be fun. It gonna 1552 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 1: be fun. One more from the tweet from one Yeah 1553 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,400 Speaker 1: from Tiffany, Devin Singletary had an exciting, highlight filled career 1554 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 1: at FAU. I'm looking forward to watching him bring his 1555 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: elusive running style to our offense. I feel by the 1556 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: end of the year, we're gonna be thankful he wasn't 1557 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: drafted higher by another team Round three, Jim and I 1558 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 1: get that too, you know. And here's the thing. He's 1559 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: been on our show. He came in studio. I was 1560 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 1: shocked at how short he is. He's five eight, right, 1561 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: he's my shorter than me. And then you go to 1562 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: his combine he doesn't run that fast, okay, and he 1563 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 1: doesn't let that much weight, and he didn't catch the 1564 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 1: ball very much. He didn't carry it a lot and stuff. 1565 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 1: So you go, you go YouTube or wherever you want 1566 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 1: to go and look at his highlight film. Man, am 1567 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 1: I glad we got that guy? Yeah, it's unbelievable. See this. 1568 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: He's a gamer. He shows up when he has the 1569 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, you know you're better off. And 1570 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy that I'm I think is 1571 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: really intriguing. I think it's a great call. Devin Singletary 1572 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: is a guy you want to see if that translates 1573 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: to the next level because it is a big jump 1574 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,640 Speaker 1: and physicality and your abilities do make a difference at 1575 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: the NFL level. But his ability to see things, and 1576 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: you watch his highlight tape, there's some times when a 1577 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 1: guy's got him right, I mean he's gonna get tackled, 1578 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: and the guy doesn't even touch him, I mean doesn't 1579 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 1: get a finger on him. It's like, oh, guy right 1580 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: in front of him, right gets in the phone booth 1581 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 1: with a guy and a guy can't get a finger 1582 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 1: on him. It's amazing. So it's it's gonna be fun 1583 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 1: because you know this too. Preseason is gonna kick off, 1584 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: and Devin Singletary is gonna get a lot of carries, 1585 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: I think, right, so that's gonna be fun. You see 1586 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 1: what they have. I gotta say this too, from a 1587 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,640 Speaker 1: purely personal standpoint, all these offseason editions you've mentioned, and 1588 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 1: Brownie talks about what half the team might be new 1589 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: from last year. As a play by play guy, this 1590 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: is a challenge. Seriously, I'm out there watching a little 1591 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 1: bit of practice or watching these highlights with my little 1592 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 1: roster card, thinking I'm gonna have to know that in 1593 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: a couple of months, I'm gonna have to know that 1594 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm good. Because usually you can count on knowing your 1595 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: own team and you can learn this other team each week. 1596 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a little different this summer, 1597 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: especially preseason. You got work to do. What do you 1598 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: you just an honor of your new grandchild. Let me 1599 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 1: just say, don't tell me about the pain, just show 1600 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 1: me the bank. That's really good. Here's a call from 1601 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Mike and Brooklyn. Hello, Mike, you're on the air with us. 1602 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right. I just wanted to take it 1603 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: a little different route with Andre Roberts and the reason 1604 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: being twofold, not just because we haven't had a return 1605 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 1: game since I guess Brandon Tate, and even that's a stretch. 1606 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: He's actually been pretty productive the wide out when he's 1607 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 1: got targets, And since we're kind of going that route 1608 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: with John Brown, if you look at like and granted 1609 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 1: it's twenty twelve, but yet over one hundred targets and 1610 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: put up eight hundred yards, I just think he's not 1611 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: completely useless as a wide receiver too. Yeah, I agree, 1612 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think of him as useless at all. It's 1613 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 1: that time of year when you gotta look at everything 1614 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,639 Speaker 1: the guy can do and bring it into the mix. 1615 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta, you gotta. You're gonna have to 1616 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,640 Speaker 1: ask guys to do more than one thing. You know, 1617 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 1: there's only a handful of guys who aren't going to 1618 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: be asked to do something other than that one little 1619 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 1: thing that we've seen them do so well. And a 1620 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: handful of guys maybe on both sides of the ball. 1621 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 1: But you look at it, you're gonna have like twenty 1622 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 1: two guys on the defensive side of the ball on 1623 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: the roster, twenty three guys twenty all right, nice on up. True, 1624 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: twenty four guys maybe on one side of the ball, 1625 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: twenty four guys on the offensive side of the ball. 1626 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 1: You gotta fill it in. You know, some of these 1627 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be big guys. Some of them are 1628 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna be athletes, and that mix is going to be 1629 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: really important. And he's right. I mean, these guys have 1630 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: had some pretty good some pretty good production outside of 1631 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 1: what they were brought here with, you know, thinking the 1632 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: bulk of their expectations. We're gonna be Thanks for your call, Mike. 1633 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, We're gonna come back. We 1634 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: are waiting the end to practice. We'll hear from Josh 1635 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Allen when practice is over. We're gonna get Bobby Johnson, 1636 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, in studio with us. And coming 1637 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 1: up around two o'clock or so, Andrew Brant, who talks 1638 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 1: about the business of football. We'll talk with him. One 1639 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Galid to Health from One Bill's Drive. 1640 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Goals Live 1641 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve tans Skirt. So 1642 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,600 Speaker 1: today's mandatory minicamp session is over. The Bills players and 1643 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 1: coaches coming off the fielding and we got one of 1644 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: the coaches with us right here right now. He is 1645 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,200 Speaker 1: the offensive coach with the Buffalo Bills, his second stint 1646 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Happy to have coach Bobby Johnson 1647 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: with us. Hello, coach, how are you? I'm great, glad 1648 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 1: to be here. Last time I saw you a Senior Bowl. 1649 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: I think you just kind of hired that week, right, Yeah, 1650 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,000 Speaker 1: it was about that week. I think I got hired 1651 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: and then drove through a maybe a blizzard or something. 1652 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Then we flew down, So, I mean it was a 1653 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,679 Speaker 1: little bit of a rule win, but it's great. Great. 1654 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you too. I mean, it's been a 1655 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: rough stretcher. You got a lot of guys hurt, and 1656 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: I was asking it during the break you coached just 1657 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,960 Speaker 1: one of your guys that you've had any experience within 1658 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 1: this office. On you got like thirteen guys in the 1659 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 1: room and one that you've had some experience with, right. 1660 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: John Feliciano and I were together during our three year 1661 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 1: stretching in Oakland during the same period of time I 1662 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: had Lee Smith there, so he's one guy that I 1663 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of familiarity with. Because having worked with him, 1664 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 1: having actually some interpersonal communication with the rest of the 1665 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 1: guys is all, you know, kind of a feeling out 1666 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,600 Speaker 1: process getting to know him. Obviously, I've gotten to know 1667 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 1: him a little bit during the free agency period when 1668 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 1: they've visited and now we're, however, many weeks into the 1669 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 1: off season, so I've kind of got a good feel 1670 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: for them as maybe their personality, but still starting to 1671 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: figure out what some of them can and can't do physically. 1672 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 1: The big question is how do you keep track of, 1673 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,719 Speaker 1: especially with the guys in and out of the lineup 1674 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it Do you have like a spreadsheet of like this 1675 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,640 Speaker 1: guy's taking so many reps at right guard, not so 1676 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,960 Speaker 1: many at left tonight? I mean, how do you keep trying? Yeah, 1677 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 1: you do that exactly exactly what you said. You have 1678 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 1: a spreadsheet? Oh you do? Oh yeah, without a question. 1679 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: I mean, because here's a thing. It's a competition. It's 1680 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 1: a competition, and we've been very upfront with every single 1681 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 1: guy from day one before they ever decided to join 1682 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the team. This is a competition. Everybody's gonna get a 1683 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: fair shake, and in order to do that, you have 1684 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,600 Speaker 1: to be literal. Yeah, Hey, I can't say you had 1685 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: a fair shake at left guard. If you've had one 1686 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 1: guy's had seventy five steps, the other guy's got four. 1687 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, So we do have a spreadsheet. Hey, there's 1688 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 1: how many times you've played here. Here's how many stamps 1689 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: you're taking every spot? Hey, how many times you did 1690 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: your assignment? How many times your technique was good and 1691 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 1: how times is bad? Now, how many penalties? All that thing. 1692 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: We keep that on a spreadsheet and it's a it's 1693 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 1: updated daily. Terry Heffern and the assistant on line coach 1694 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 1: updates at Malfred will be doing it this afternoon, right 1695 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,599 Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson bills online coaching study with us. I was hoping, 1696 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 1: amateur than I am, that we would an idea of 1697 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 1: who's landing up where at the end of this week 1698 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: before you get to camp. But it was that unrealistic 1699 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: when you think about while the injuries obolus to your factor, 1700 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 1: but you don't you don't work in pads out here. 1701 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not really lot of question that you can't 1702 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 1: you know, etch anything in stone when you say you 1703 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 1: have a competition before you have put the pads on, 1704 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 1: especially at this position. You know it's a physical position. 1705 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: It's the nature that we said we want to play with. 1706 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 1: In order to do that, you gotta get a you know, 1707 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 1: to get an accurate picture of that. You gotta put 1708 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 1: the pads on. You gotta have some live periods. You 1709 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,480 Speaker 1: got to you gotta see how guys, you know, strain physically, 1710 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and that's gonna happen in training camp. So nothing is 1711 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna be etching. Soone, you'd like to get maybe a 1712 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,720 Speaker 1: little bit of continuity communications sake, but most of it 1713 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 1: is now going to happen when we get the training camp. 1714 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 1: All right, So, say being an offensive line coach year 1715 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: to one year to the next level of one being 1716 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,679 Speaker 1: the easiest means you got the same five guys coming 1717 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: back and the same backups coming back, and it's one 1718 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 1: year to the next. You kind of keep rolling. Now, 1719 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 1: how is it that degree of difficulty elevating when you 1720 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: got like maybe five news starters and no new faces 1721 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: coming back? I mean, how many levels of right now? 1722 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: We're probably at a level six? And here's why. Um, 1723 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,560 Speaker 1: it's not like have zero idea who we have. You know, 1724 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,599 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have a body of work. 1725 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: They have something you can look at and go this 1726 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 1: is how this guy plays UM now, how they fit 1727 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 1: together is what we're trying to figure out, and what 1728 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: is the best combination. Sometimes the five most talented guys 1729 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 1: might not be your best line. It's gonna be your 1730 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 1: best five that work together. That work is one. So 1731 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, the good thing about it is I kind 1732 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,560 Speaker 1: of know what their body of work is UM, and 1733 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 1: I know that there's competition. It makes a little difficult 1734 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,640 Speaker 1: that maybe some of those guys that I want to 1735 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: see paired up next to one and there aren't there 1736 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,839 Speaker 1: on a given day, So it makes a little more difficult. 1737 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,920 Speaker 1: But it's not like an extreme It's not a dire 1738 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: situation whatsoever. So to be honest me, I'm kind of 1739 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,200 Speaker 1: excited because now there's gonna be the maybe the urgency 1740 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 1: levels is gonna be ranked up. We get the training camp, 1741 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,599 Speaker 1: so the guy might be big man. I missed this time, 1742 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: So now I gotta I gotta, I gotta ratchet up 1743 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: a little bit. I kind of like that. I'm not 1744 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,240 Speaker 1: gonna lie to I'm a little excited about that one. 1745 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Mitch Moore, you've finished a couple of practices with him 1746 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 1: going full go this week. What do you see from 1747 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: him and how critical does he do the overall picture 1748 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 1: of what you're trying to do up from him. He's 1749 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,640 Speaker 1: the lynchpan and I've told him that from day one. Um, 1750 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,840 Speaker 1: he has to be the leader out there when we 1751 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 1: get there. He's been everything I've thought, um the good 1752 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: thing about him. Just like any great player, he's the 1753 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,600 Speaker 1: own worst critic. And by time he gets to me, 1754 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 1: when he's coming out, he's already there's I don't need 1755 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,960 Speaker 1: to say anything that you know, to inspire him. I 1756 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 1: don't need to say anything to make him realize that 1757 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: he knows what he did wrong. Now I'll talk to 1758 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 1: him like, hey, here's what we got to do to 1759 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,840 Speaker 1: fix this, or hey, think about this. It's a it's 1760 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a little bit. It's more of 1761 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: a like having a communication coordinator to quarterback and you're 1762 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,639 Speaker 1: talking to the center, especially a guy that's at his level. 1763 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know Mitch well, but he seems My initial 1764 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,040 Speaker 1: impression is he's very very intelligent. Extremely, he's a he's 1765 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: a good man. He's a good man. Um, he's very intelligent. Uh. 1766 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: He he approaches the game like a true pro, and 1767 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 1: that's what you really want to He is a true professional. 1768 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: He is every day working to make his craft at 1769 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 1: top level. What do you think about the mix here 1770 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: with the new guys coming in? I know some of 1771 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,640 Speaker 1: them are experienced, and then you've got a guy like 1772 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: Cody Ford who's brand new. You got to incorporate that, 1773 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of something to do every year. But 1774 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,839 Speaker 1: how how does that work and what kind of progress 1775 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 1: can you tangibly see? Well? The good the positive is 1776 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 1: this is there's a lot of guys, like I say, 1777 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 1: with body of work that are veterans. Um you have 1778 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Cody who's a complete rookie who he's 1779 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out sometimes, like hey, which way 1780 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,560 Speaker 1: am I going today? The good thing about is he 1781 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: has some veterans to lean on, some veterans, and we 1782 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 1: have a good group of guys that they they've kind 1783 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,400 Speaker 1: of take him under his wing, under their wings where 1784 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 1: they can talk about, hey, you know, hey, slow down 1785 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 1: a little bit, just hey handle anb we'll get to 1786 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: see later on. So I think that's helped him quite 1787 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,479 Speaker 1: a bit trying to acclimate as opposed to maybe some 1788 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: guys who don't have that veteran experience, maybe or first 1789 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 1: a second year player, they they're so trying to figure 1790 01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 1: out what they're doing. It takes a couple of years, 1791 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, to truly get the ins and out of 1792 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: this this game at this level. So I think it's 1793 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: helping him. And I also know this those veterans, they 1794 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 1: know it's important to have a guy playing next to 1795 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 1: him at a certain level, so they're invested too, and 1796 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: they see his ability. You know, you know how it 1797 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 1: is as a veteran player when you see a guy 1798 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,720 Speaker 1: that has ability, you spend a little bit more time 1799 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: trying to help him because you know he can make 1800 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 1: the team better. He can make the group better. With 1801 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson, the Bill's offensive line coach, you got a 1802 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,040 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. What in your career? What did 1803 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,080 Speaker 1: it mean for you to finally get a chance to 1804 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 1: be the guy to be the offensive line coach. You've 1805 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 1: moved around a lot in the league right to right, 1806 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's been here and then Jacksonville, 1807 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: then Detroit, than Oakland, then Indie than here. Um, I 1808 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't trade my experience in for the world. I would 1809 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 1: not be prepared for this job had one of those 1810 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,679 Speaker 1: stops not happen. And it's not any one particular stop, 1811 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 1: but any of those stops. I'm extremely grateful, humbled by 1812 01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 1: it because there's a lot of really good coaches out 1813 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 1: there that haven't had this opportunity. Um. But I'm also 1814 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 1: determined because there are a lot of coaches that are 1815 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,800 Speaker 1: very capable that they get chance and then they don't. 1816 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 1: They don't ever get a second chance. I'm gonna try 1817 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: to make this thing last as long as I possibly can, 1818 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,560 Speaker 1: so that way, when the ride stops, I know I 1819 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 1: did everything in my power to make it a good run. 1820 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 1: You've also had coached some different position coach tight ends 1821 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 1: in spots now offensive line. It's the only position or 1822 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,280 Speaker 1: position group that is like five different players that are 1823 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 1: like called one thing. They're the odligne, right. How does 1824 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 1: that change the dynamic for a coach trying to get 1825 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,759 Speaker 1: five guys to play like one thing. It's it's that's 1826 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 1: the beauty of the position that I mean that is 1827 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,639 Speaker 1: so that's that's what makes it unique. That's what makes 1828 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: it so special is that you're literally, like you said, 1829 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 1: you can't say anything better. You're trying to get five 1830 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 1: different heartbeats to beat like one. You know a lot 1831 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,839 Speaker 1: of people associated like Hey, five fingers independently aren't very special. 1832 01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 1: They don't do a whole lot. They do kind of 1833 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: little bit. But when you bawl them all up together, 1834 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 1: they make a fist and it's a powerful thing. And 1835 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly what an old line is. You have to 1836 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: approach each guy different That's just been a philosophy I've 1837 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 1: had throughout my career, regardless of position. As you coach 1838 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 1: each guy differently but fairly, you have to get to 1839 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: each guy differently. You can't yell at every single guy. 1840 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Some guys don't respond to that, some guys do. Is 1841 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 1: So the big thing is we talk about what's important us, 1842 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,680 Speaker 1: what our fundamentals are, what our principles are, what our 1843 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: standards are, and then you deal with each guy individually. 1844 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 1: But it's a challenge. Every day is a challenge. I mean, 1845 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 1: you broke into the league with the Bills twenty ten 1846 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 1: under then offensive line coach Joe donald sunders. I wonder, 1847 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 1: really we talked about before we went on the air, 1848 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: one of the good coaches and one of the great 1849 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: people in the league. What did you take from him? 1850 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: How important was he as far as a as a 1851 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 1: mentor for you in the NFL. The one thing that 1852 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,679 Speaker 1: I took away from Joe because Joe's, like I said, 1853 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 1: a wonderful human being, really good coach. We come from 1854 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 1: similar backgrounds being in the Midwest and old mill towns. 1855 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm from Akron, Ohio, so all the rubber mills that 1856 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 1: were there from the tire companies. The one thing is 1857 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,680 Speaker 1: we're blue collar people. And I always saw when you 1858 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: got the NFL. He was always like, you gotta gotta 1859 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: handle the guys kind of differently because they're pros. And 1860 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Joe's like, no, we work, and we work until they 1861 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: blow the last whistle and then everybody walks out, as 1862 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: he called him the white stripes. So the one thing 1863 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I do know is this, we're gonna work when we 1864 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,120 Speaker 1: go on the field. And that's one thing that I 1865 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 1: took away from him, that, hey, players want to be coached, 1866 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,640 Speaker 1: they want to be better. And the only way do 1867 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,640 Speaker 1: guys work hard, you know, work hard, and if that 1868 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work, work harder. And that's something I've taken with 1869 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 1: me every stop in this league is I gotta work hard. 1870 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I gotta work the players hard and they appreciate it. 1871 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,640 Speaker 1: So You've you've been at different things and I know that. 1872 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,720 Speaker 1: I tell all my old teammates who were like Frank Wrych, Yeah, 1873 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,680 Speaker 1: I tell him, as listen, you signed up for it, right, 1874 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're signed up for this coaching thing. You're 1875 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna bounce around a little bit. What so you've now 1876 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: you've bounced here your second time and after all the 1877 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 1: experiences you've had, is there something special about Buffalo and 1878 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,720 Speaker 1: this particular program, this version of the Buffalo Bills that 1879 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,719 Speaker 1: makes you excited very much? So, I mean just Buffalo 1880 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,320 Speaker 1: in general is a very special place. When I first 1881 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 1: got here the first time, it was like I had 1882 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,000 Speaker 1: a kind of a perception of what the NFL life 1883 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,000 Speaker 1: would be like, and be honestly, some of it was 1884 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 1: a little bit of a turn off to me. Got 1885 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 1: here and I was like, it can be like this, 1886 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a small town field, but with 1887 01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: an NFL team, it's always held a special place. Market 1888 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 1: is a lot like my hometown. I feel like the people, 1889 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 1: the fans, I can tell you this, after bounce around teams, 1890 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 1: they're Bills Mafia and the Bills fans, I mean, they're 1891 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,080 Speaker 1: as good as they get. And I've been around with 1892 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,000 Speaker 1: some good ones. So people out there listening. If you're 1893 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 1: a different fan base, I'm sorry. It's just the truth 1894 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 1: and coming back just to see the things that the 1895 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,240 Speaker 1: Pogoulas have done and how the fans are still rallying 1896 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 1: behind the team. I'm just excited to be a part 1897 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:50,960 Speaker 1: of it, you know, And that makes me every day 1898 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 1: when I get up, want to put my best foot 1899 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 1: forward and give my best effort so that the people 1900 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,760 Speaker 1: who have supported throughout get rewarded. Got some downtown coming 1901 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,320 Speaker 1: up after tomorrow, you're gonna take it, and that uh 1902 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 1: a little bit I got. I got some some daughters 1903 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,680 Speaker 1: and a family that I got to catch up with. 1904 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,719 Speaker 1: So I mean my oldest daughter is here at practice 1905 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 1: today and she just finished sophomore year college, So I mean, 1906 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 1: try to catch up with them, because as you know, 1907 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, when you're a parent, you kind of especially 1908 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 1: in this profession, you miss a lot, yea. And over 1909 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: the last five years, I've missed a lot, and I'm 1910 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,800 Speaker 1: just looking forward to catching up and uh and trying 1911 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,800 Speaker 1: to as they call, uh what is it a re 1912 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 1: entry into normal society for a little bit a week, 1913 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Because I agree that you do miss a lot, and 1914 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,640 Speaker 1: and but I hope your family at the end of 1915 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: this season, says, Wow, it was all worth it. Yeah, 1916 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what last year we went through 1917 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and I'm grateful for my my year 1918 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 1: in Indie. But I'm excited about this one. And I 1919 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 1: know they're excited. We're here, Matt, right, they're catching up 1920 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 1: with old friends. And you know, my oldest daughter was 1921 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: with her best friend from our neighborhood when we were 1922 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,000 Speaker 1: here last So I'm excited for that. And you know, 1923 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm really appreciative. It's great to have your coaching stop. 1924 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you so much. Ibbyan Johnson is 1925 01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach for the Bill Steve and I 1926 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,000 Speaker 1: come back another hour Togo One Bills Live from One 1927 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 1: Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio Hills Radio Network Sports. 1928 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 1: At the update from One Bills Driver, the Bills have 1929 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 1: ended today's day two of their mandatory minicamp. They've got 1930 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,840 Speaker 1: one more springtime practice to go tomorrow afternoon. After tomorrow, 1931 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 1: the Bills players will be off, most of them veterans anyway, 1932 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,800 Speaker 1: until they go to training camp at the end of July. 1933 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Mandatory Minicamp Day two is complete, and we'll hear from 1934 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen a little bit later on this hour and 1935 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,679 Speaker 1: get his take on what's going on out here this spring. 1936 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,360 Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders are the Hard Knocks team this year, 1937 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,559 Speaker 1: the year before they moved to Las Vegas. The Raiders 1938 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,360 Speaker 1: have been selected that they will star in HBO's Hard 1939 01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,439 Speaker 1: Knocks come August. Everybody wants to be a Raider, says 1940 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Raiders coach Mark Davis. Now they'll find out what it 1941 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 1: takes to become one. Hard Knocks is going to be 1942 01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders this year. Stanley Cup Finals Tonight, the 1943 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,680 Speaker 1: seventh and deciding game bases off at eight o'clock in 1944 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Boston tonight. Series tied at three wins apiece. It is 1945 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:09,120 Speaker 1: the Bruins hosting Saint Louis tonight. That one coming up 1946 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock with a face off Boston Bruins defenseman 1947 01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Matt Grizzlick. They tell me he is how you pronounced it. 1948 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,960 Speaker 1: He's been medically cleared from a concussion and is likely 1949 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 1: to play in tonight's game, a game time decision, according 1950 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,639 Speaker 1: to Bruins coach Bruce Cassidy. Cassidy said Rord rookie Connor 1951 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 1: Clifton would probably be bumped to the lineup if Grizzlick 1952 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,280 Speaker 1: goes in against Saint Louis Blues. NBA Finals resumed tomorrow night. 1953 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,479 Speaker 1: It is Game six tomorrow, with that series now three 1954 01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 1: games to two in the favor of the Toronto Raptors. 1955 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 1: Nine o'clock tip offs tomorrow night, back in Oakland, Toronto. 1956 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 1: In Golden State, Kevin Durant Warriors and forward went to 1957 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 1: New York City yesterday to undergo an MRI on his 1958 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 1: injured achilles. League sources says the team believes the MRI 1959 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 1: will confirm and achilles tear that Durant suffered. And Monday 1960 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 1: Nights one oh six, one oh five win by the 1961 01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors over the Toronto Raptors. That's it. That's 1962 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,720 Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Right, John mur If he 1963 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, our number three of the show, One Bill's 1964 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, one of our favorite guests, 1965 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 1: joins us right now to talk about a variety of topics. 1966 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Happy to have him in studio with us right now. 1967 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 1: He is the MMQB Weekly Columnists, host of the Business 1968 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 1: of Sports podcast, director of the Moored Center for Sports 1969 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 1: Law at Villanova. Happy to have Andrew Brant on the line. 1970 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Hello Andrew John ur If he Steve Tasker rapper in Buffalo. 1971 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. You're always good to be with you. Guys. Hey, 1972 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: you wrote a really interesting piece today. You always do, 1973 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,839 Speaker 1: but today's piece about the negotiations for a new CBA 1974 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 1: where a couple of years out. But as you point out, 1975 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 1: it's not too soon. And I think you point out, 1976 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 1: why not get it down as soon as you can. 1977 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,760 Speaker 1: You can get stuff done now. You said, right, Yeah, 1978 01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think before we get these issues. I 1979 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 1: just don't get all the posturing that has already started. 1980 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,920 Speaker 1: And listen, Damie Smith had his contracts extended a couple 1981 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 1: of years ago. Roger Goodell had his contract extended as 1982 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,599 Speaker 1: everyone knows, and the forty million or whatever he's making 1983 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. There's no reason. I mean, 1984 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: they were signed and empowered to do a new CBA 1985 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 1: like years ago. So I don't get why we hear 1986 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 1: things about strikes and lockouts and work stoppages. It just 1987 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. This should be negotiated quietly 1988 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to wait. So I guess my 1989 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 1: point is that we're eighty percent through a ten year 1990 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: deal and we have two years left, and to talk 1991 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 1: about things like work stuff is just counterproductive and useless. 1992 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,479 Speaker 1: Why don't they just get a deal done? Who has 1993 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 1: the leverage right now? I know I've read some of 1994 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,920 Speaker 1: the stuff you've written, and the league has, you know, 1995 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 1: is in their interest. If it does go without to 1996 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 1: the point where it expires without a new deal in place, 1997 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,920 Speaker 1: the league will just lock the players out and start 1998 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,360 Speaker 1: waiting them out. And has all the leverage, and that's 1999 01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,040 Speaker 1: been upheld by a lower court. So who has the 2000 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:08,040 Speaker 1: leverage as the deadline years? Well, you know, I think 2001 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 1: it's tough to say that. I have lovery owners come 2002 01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:20,240 Speaker 1: in with a little more. Last time, as I wrote about, 2003 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,439 Speaker 1: they were really clawed back. The players got the better 2004 01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 1: of the deal in two thousand and six, and then 2005 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,599 Speaker 1: the owners said, well, we're gonna we're gonna make sure 2006 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,200 Speaker 1: we get our money back, and they did in two 2007 01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:38,559 Speaker 1: thousan eleven, and the split went from about fifty one 2008 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,560 Speaker 1: percent for the players to about forty seven percent of 2009 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: the players. Those are billions of dollars each percentage point. 2010 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,639 Speaker 1: So now you know, we hope the players can get 2011 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:54,040 Speaker 1: back closer to fifty But you're right, the owners really 2012 01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 1: do have the leverage because they can always lock them out, 2013 01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,280 Speaker 1: and they don't lock them out to shut down foot ball. 2014 01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,720 Speaker 1: They lock them out to get a better deal. And 2015 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,439 Speaker 1: it's much easier to negotiate when players aren't being paid 2016 01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,560 Speaker 1: than when they are. Well, how do you think that 2017 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,360 Speaker 1: the gambling money or the perceived revenue from gambling is 2018 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,000 Speaker 1: going to be split? As they going to throw that 2019 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,640 Speaker 1: into the pot and throw it on top of the 2020 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 1: cap as money split or will the players demand a 2021 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 1: like a thirty third share of that pie or you know, 2022 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 1: how's that going to be split? Or is there any 2023 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:33,920 Speaker 1: recourse that the players have to do that differently? Yeah, 2024 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. I just think that's the real 2025 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 1: issue to watch gambling revenues, because that was not even 2026 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 1: a thought in twenty eleven. I covered every issue, and 2027 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, everyone knows who's the issues of money and 2028 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 1: can assure power and franchise tags and all those things, 2029 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,559 Speaker 1: but no one ever thought about gambling revenues. Now we've 2030 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,400 Speaker 1: got legalization as of a year ago, and the NFL 2031 01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 1: has made deals with MGM and money is going to 2032 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: be flowing. And question to me is how you quantify it? 2033 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, could the players get a share of the 2034 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:09,960 Speaker 1: MGM deal or whatever deal they make with a Caesar's Sure, 2035 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: But as Mark Cuban said the day that this happened, 2036 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 1: franchise values are going to double and and TV ratings 2037 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,360 Speaker 1: are going to double because everyone's interested because of gambling. 2038 01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 1: And how do the players quantify that? And the league's 2039 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:30,760 Speaker 1: going to say, well, you just get your share of 2040 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,360 Speaker 1: the cap, but the players are going to say, no, 2041 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,800 Speaker 1: we want more than that, you know, we want to 2042 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 1: get involved at the front end. And that's where the 2043 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,840 Speaker 1: rubber meets the road. I think these are gonna be 2044 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 1: tough negotiations about the gambling FA I think the fair 2045 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: way to do, and I'm speaking from as a former player, 2046 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be best to take every all the revenues 2047 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,640 Speaker 1: and split them thirty three ways instead of thirty two, 2048 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,760 Speaker 1: give them to the play give that thirty third share 2049 01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 1: to the players, and with the observation that they would 2050 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,840 Speaker 1: obviously get a look at the financials to make sure 2051 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 1: it's being done properly. Yeah, that'd be a nice way 2052 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 1: to handle it. I just don't know, you know, again, 2053 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 1: I say this all the time, what exactly are the 2054 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:16,640 Speaker 1: players negotiating with you know, what's their leverage? And you know, 2055 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,800 Speaker 1: you try to tell me what the players have to give, 2056 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,680 Speaker 1: because I'm not sure. I don't know what they have 2057 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 1: to give. Maybe, you know, are they gonna at one 2058 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,600 Speaker 1: point they would stand for the anthem? Like that's not 2059 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,680 Speaker 1: worth much. I mean, are they going to give up 2060 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, well, well we'll test for marijuana, which 2061 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 1: you know most leagues aren't even doing that. I don't 2062 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,040 Speaker 1: think that's worth much either. So it's really hard to 2063 01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,200 Speaker 1: know what leverage the players have with Andrew Brady writes 2064 01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,560 Speaker 1: about the business of the NFL. M MQB week columnists 2065 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 1: Andrew the commissioner right up here in Western New York 2066 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 1: last week again raise the possibility of an eighteen game 2067 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,920 Speaker 1: regular season. Was that posturing, was that, you know, setting 2068 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,200 Speaker 1: that out there so they can negotiate on that, or 2069 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 1: is he serious about an eighteen game season? Yeah? It 2070 01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 1: was interesting because that issue has been thrown out and 2071 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,800 Speaker 1: the actual quotes from Goodell up there in Buffalo were 2072 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 1: about really no need for a four game preseason, which 2073 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,479 Speaker 1: is kind of a veiled way of saying eighteen games 2074 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,960 Speaker 1: regular season. And I thought that was an opening salvo 2075 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 1: for an issue that was a tough one in twenty eleven, 2076 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,240 Speaker 1: and we just talked about it. What do the players 2077 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,519 Speaker 1: have to bargain with? Well, if they if they want, 2078 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 1: if they can agree to eighteen game schedule, they can 2079 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,800 Speaker 1: get something for that. You know, they can get some 2080 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 1: concessions from the league for that. But they seem to 2081 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:45,080 Speaker 1: be revolting against it already, Eric Winston and others saying 2082 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,759 Speaker 1: no way, you know, the damage, the health and safety, 2083 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,960 Speaker 1: we can't do that. But I don't know. I don't 2084 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,559 Speaker 1: know if the NFL was just thrown it out as 2085 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: a strong man to see the reaction, which kind of 2086 01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 1: was the case last time, or there's a bigger picture 2087 01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,800 Speaker 1: involved here. Well, there's there's all kinds of plans on 2088 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: the table, Andrew, one of which was brought up by 2089 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 1: one of our guests. And I've been echoing for a 2090 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,880 Speaker 1: long time making an eighteen game schedule, but don't let 2091 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:13,719 Speaker 1: them play more games. Make every player just play able 2092 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 1: to play sixteen games out of the eighteen games, and 2093 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,720 Speaker 1: they have to sit down for two weeks, throwing an 2094 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,120 Speaker 1: extra BUYE week or whatever you want for Labor Day 2095 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:25,320 Speaker 1: weekend league wide, and the players get actually more time 2096 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,560 Speaker 1: off during the season becomes safer game and they do 2097 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,640 Speaker 1: get more product for the TV rights revenues and all that. 2098 01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,960 Speaker 1: So it seems to me that if that was a 2099 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 1: chip that the players could play and maybe get a 2100 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:42,320 Speaker 1: couple extra roster spots to enlarge their workforce, that would 2101 01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:47,400 Speaker 1: be a win win. Now are you saying that that 2102 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: players play sixteen and not the eighteen? The schedule would 2103 01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 1: be eighteen, But because you'd be given like sixty eight 2104 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,040 Speaker 1: roster spot or fifty eight roster spots to sit a 2105 01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 1: fifty three, you could have four or five guys. Will 2106 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,960 Speaker 1: you have an essence, you know, thirteen guys If you 2107 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: go down to forty five on game day, thirteen guys 2108 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,599 Speaker 1: would sit out the game, and even if they were 2109 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,720 Speaker 1: healthy and starters, they would only be allowed to play 2110 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,439 Speaker 1: sixteen of those eighteen games. It would give. Yeah, I 2111 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,360 Speaker 1: just don't know if you're gonna get you know, the 2112 01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 1: Panthers to have to sit out Cam Newton for two games. Yeah, 2113 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: that's what I said too. Yeah, I agree. I just 2114 01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,680 Speaker 1: don't see anyone agree into that. You know, Eric Packers say, well, 2115 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you gotta sit for two games, and they 2116 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,880 Speaker 1: play some backup and lose. I mean, I mean, I 2117 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,600 Speaker 1: get the whole health and safety thing, and that's what 2118 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 1: the revolt has been. But it's all going to come 2119 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:43,160 Speaker 1: down negotiation and money. I mean, I keep saying, what 2120 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 1: do the players have to bargain with? Well, okay, here 2121 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,160 Speaker 1: we got one thing they could bargain with. And what 2122 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 1: are they going to get out of it? We'll find out. 2123 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: Andrew on one more quick question for you, non CBA related. 2124 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,120 Speaker 1: The commissioner also last week talked about Buffalo and moving 2125 01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:02,280 Speaker 1: forward and thinking about stadium construction possible, talking about leverage. Look, 2126 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,360 Speaker 1: you got owners here now in Buffalo who are totally 2127 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 1: committed to Buffalo. This team's not going anywhere. So what 2128 01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 1: can the league do to if they really want a stadium, 2129 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,760 Speaker 1: to force the Bills to make up to build a 2130 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 1: new stadium. I mean, I don't get it. I don't know. 2131 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the script every year, right right, 2132 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think the situation fits that script. I 2133 01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,920 Speaker 1: don't think, Jackie Bill. It goes to New Orleans and 2134 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's public money. That tends to 2135 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,760 Speaker 1: be the pattern, and we've seen it before, so I'm 2136 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 1: sure we'll see it again. I just feel like we 2137 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,080 Speaker 1: had a different situation or Andrew, thanks for this. We 2138 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,519 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Okay, Oh, there's a pleasure, guys. Andrew Brant, 2139 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,880 Speaker 1: host of the MMQB a week Right, So MMQB Weekly column, 2140 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 1: hosts of the Business of Sports podcast, director of the 2141 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 1: more Red Center for Sports Law at Villanova. Well, you 2142 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 1: asked Andrew Brant, who I think we both agree. Steve 2143 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 1: is a deep thinker when it comes to the business 2144 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 1: of the NFL About the tasker plan for an eighteen 2145 01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 1: game regular season and players only play in sixteen game games. 2146 01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,720 Speaker 1: Didn't he didn't get it. I don't get it. Well, 2147 01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing works. Well, it's easy to see how 2148 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,560 Speaker 1: it works. Where you don't get is the fact that 2149 01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to sit Tom Brady down or Aaron Rodgers, right, 2150 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 1: or so you have a list of four guys or 2151 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 1: three guys or one guy or four guys, seven guys 2152 01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,720 Speaker 1: that can play eighteen games if the team wants to 2153 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,679 Speaker 1: designate him. That's it. So little Tommy and the romantic 2154 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,439 Speaker 1: size of universe that you live and doesn't get deprived 2155 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 1: of getting to see Tom Brady play on his eighth birthday, right, 2156 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,640 Speaker 1: you really look, you look at the fan base like 2157 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,519 Speaker 1: that kind of How about Big Jimmy twenty seven years 2158 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,080 Speaker 1: who is deprived from seeing Josh Allen play when he 2159 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:40,880 Speaker 1: wants to see, when he wants to see the Bills 2160 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,559 Speaker 1: or the Patriots or the Rams or whomever at their best. Oh, 2161 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,120 Speaker 1: not this game. We got to sit our top quarterback 2162 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,240 Speaker 1: or our top cornerback, or because we want to play 2163 01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 1: two extra games. Who I don't want to go to 2164 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,720 Speaker 1: those games. I don't want to pay full price for 2165 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 1: those games. If if the team isn't there and it's 2166 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,519 Speaker 1: entirety and it's healthy entirety, I don't get it. I 2167 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,200 Speaker 1: don't see it works. I think it's unfair defans in 2168 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,759 Speaker 1: what way because you are paying to see two teams 2169 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 1: at their best trying to win a game. So don't pay, 2170 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:13,439 Speaker 1: don't go all right, you're just forget about that. You 2171 01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 1: don't think anybody else is gonna want to want I 2172 01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know that's the league's not willing 2173 01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, you're you're worried about like 2174 01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,759 Speaker 1: three guys out of the respect for the competitive aspect 2175 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,240 Speaker 1: of the game. You say, looking about these people will 2176 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 1: how does that change. How we don't have our whole 2177 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 1: team here, but these people are gonna pay. How does 2178 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 1: that change the competitive balance? If Josh Allen doesn't play, 2179 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:34,920 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady doesn't play, You don't think that changes. 2180 01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,120 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do if if the Patriots come 2181 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 1: in here and Tom Brady has to sit, and they 2182 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,120 Speaker 1: do it deliberately because they think they can beat you anyway, 2183 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 1: that's not good. It's not good. Well I supposed to 2184 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,519 Speaker 1: celebrate that. No, it's not good. They're under the same 2185 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,400 Speaker 1: burden you are. That's fair, it's an artificial burden. It 2186 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to create these stupid rules where 2187 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,639 Speaker 1: you can't you gotta sit out this game. You gotta 2188 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,040 Speaker 1: set out this game. Why we're healthy, we're ready to go. 2189 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,559 Speaker 1: People expect to see a full faith effort to win 2190 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,320 Speaker 1: a game when they buy a ticket. Everybody. Nobody's gonna 2191 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,080 Speaker 1: stop trying. But there'll be people sitting on the bench. 2192 01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:13,120 Speaker 1: You should be on the field. That's crazy talk. You're right, 2193 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:17,679 Speaker 1: you are professing crazy. Absolutely crazy never gonna happen. Edrew 2194 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,280 Speaker 1: Brand just told you that. Somebody last week just told 2195 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,799 Speaker 1: you that. That doesn't make sense. It's of course it's 2196 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,320 Speaker 1: given you the back of your hand to the paying 2197 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,320 Speaker 1: customers both if thus viewers. The only reason the only 2198 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,639 Speaker 1: leg you have to stand on is because they haven't 2199 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 1: been doing it this way for fifty years. If they 2200 01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,360 Speaker 1: had been, the game would not be nearly as popular 2201 01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:39,000 Speaker 1: as it is. Guarantee it. Well, we're gonna play this group, 2202 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,200 Speaker 1: but not this group. Come on, man, nobody, I'll tell 2203 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,880 Speaker 1: you what it would be just as it would just 2204 01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,439 Speaker 1: be just as prop you don't tell you why, because 2205 01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,560 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have had to make all the sacrifices for 2206 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,680 Speaker 1: players safe. You wouldn't have people going, oh, it's a 2207 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,360 Speaker 1: soft league now, Oh they're playing touch football. Oh they 2208 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 1: should lift the quarterbacks in dresses. All of that stuff 2209 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: would have never happened because they would have been making 2210 01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 1: the game safer years ago, and they'd have been allowed 2211 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,120 Speaker 1: to play more physical. That whiney voice that you just 2212 01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,639 Speaker 1: said has nothing to do with the popularity of the game. 2213 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 1: There's no evidence that people think that, and it's driving 2214 01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 1: him away from the game, sitting down healthy players. You 2215 01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,519 Speaker 1: want to you want to keep him for another game 2216 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,960 Speaker 1: because you want to have two more games. That would 2217 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,960 Speaker 1: be I think I'm an insult to the thing. I'm 2218 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,639 Speaker 1: so glad we have a couple more minutes to wena. 2219 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:22,479 Speaker 1: Keep going with this sense. It makes perfect any sense, 2220 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,160 Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense. It does just because you don't 2221 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:27,800 Speaker 1: like the fact that you got a healthy guy that 2222 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:32,280 Speaker 1: can't play, right, that's it, Yes, that is absolutely it. 2223 01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,800 Speaker 1: Why can't he play because we need to squeeze two 2224 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,360 Speaker 1: more games of revenue out? No, what's the difference between 2225 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 1: having him sit down because it's a rule, because that 2226 01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,160 Speaker 1: and having him because he slapped his wife? You don't 2227 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,160 Speaker 1: see a difference there. There isn't taking a break. If 2228 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:46,880 Speaker 1: you don't see that, that is a difference. But I'm 2229 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,760 Speaker 1: saying the guy's healthy and he could play, but because 2230 01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:52,679 Speaker 1: of the rules of the game he can't. Doesn't make sense. 2231 01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,120 Speaker 1: It's one rules the same as the other. The effect, 2232 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,639 Speaker 1: not the reason the same. One reason is that human 2233 01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:03,280 Speaker 1: reason of behavioral issues that result in a suspension are 2234 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,479 Speaker 1: the same as making a decision not to play again. 2235 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is rules or rules, whatever rule keeps 2236 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:09,720 Speaker 1: a healthy guy off the field is the same rule 2237 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,639 Speaker 1: as we're talking about. No, yeah, no, it doesn't come 2238 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,559 Speaker 1: on now. You want to keep going because you're digging 2239 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: yourself a hole that you will never get out. Right, Wait, 2240 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,880 Speaker 1: let me stop digging, then tell me. Tell me why 2241 01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm in a hole, because it doesn't make sense, because 2242 01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,760 Speaker 1: it's unfair to fans to say, we're sitting out this 2243 01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 1: guy this game. It's unfair to everything healthy Josh Allen, healthy, 2244 01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: shady McCoy. Not gonna play this week, folks, And when 2245 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:35,599 Speaker 1: do you announce it? By the way, not gonna play 2246 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,240 Speaker 1: this week because we want to save them for another 2247 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 1: game that maybe you want to have tickets to. But 2248 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,559 Speaker 1: so what, you've already bought tickets to this game? Okay, 2249 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,320 Speaker 1: somebody else will come say, here's where you're here's where 2250 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:49,479 Speaker 1: your logic falls flat. It's fair when everybody knows the 2251 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,639 Speaker 1: rules before the game starts, and before the season starts. 2252 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,000 Speaker 1: Everything is fair when you let them know before they 2253 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,479 Speaker 1: spend a dime. Not fair and not fun, not what 2254 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,639 Speaker 1: the post of I can choose. I'm gonna buy tickets, 2255 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,639 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Is Josh gonna play this week? Oh? 2256 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,160 Speaker 1: I better way, I don't. I don't want to go. 2257 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,439 Speaker 1: If Josh, it's not fair you've got healthy players, play them, 2258 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,360 Speaker 1: try to win that week. Yeah, I don't buy that. 2259 01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 1: I do. I really don't, because if if everybody knows 2260 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,840 Speaker 1: that's the story going in, it's completely fair or whatever 2261 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,120 Speaker 1: to use your word. And yeah, the simple fact the 2262 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,600 Speaker 1: matter is, you don't know anyway who's gonna play. You 2263 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,560 Speaker 1: assume that if they're healthy, they're playing. But also this, 2264 01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,439 Speaker 1: you also know that somewhere down line, it's week twelve, 2265 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 1: week fourteen, Josh hasn't sat. At some point he's gonna 2266 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 1: have to. And how does that enhance anybody's enjoyment of 2267 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,560 Speaker 1: the game. How does that make the game better? It 2268 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 1: makes it worse. Well, maybe I shouldn't go to this 2269 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 1: game because Josh might not play this week. I don't 2270 01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,800 Speaker 1: think so. Oh, I think so, because I've I've had 2271 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 1: to go. I've played games, and we've all seen We've 2272 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 1: seen across the country, across the years, the decades of 2273 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:59,320 Speaker 1: this thing where where one guy gets you know, one 2274 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 1: guy gets hurt, one guy, this guy retires, this guy 2275 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 1: gets hurt early in the season, this guy, you know 2276 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,120 Speaker 1: is whatever is held out of the game or out 2277 01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 1: of the game, suspended or hurt or injured unexpectedly whatever, 2278 01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,599 Speaker 1: the game goes on and the game is just as good. 2279 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,639 Speaker 1: You know why, because the guy that walks in there 2280 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 1: and takes his place is given given his best effort too. 2281 01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,640 Speaker 1: But the decision is never this is the game we 2282 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 1: hold this guy out. It's this is the game this 2283 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 1: guy can't play because he's got a sore shoulder or something. 2284 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,800 Speaker 1: You're making. That's just like, that's nothing different than a 2285 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,920 Speaker 1: game plan. Oh, it's a lot different than a game play. 2286 01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,160 Speaker 1: You're telling me. And let's look at let's take the 2287 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,920 Speaker 1: the quintessential. Um, I will never be moved on this. 2288 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,439 Speaker 1: That's fine. We can go as long as you want. 2289 01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,599 Speaker 1: I know, I know you're never that, which is why 2290 01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,920 Speaker 1: I keep bouncing things off you think about the essential. 2291 01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:48,479 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm wrong. The quintessential franchise in the 2292 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:53,639 Speaker 1: NFL these days, the New England Patriots. One week, say, 2293 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,679 Speaker 1: for instance, go back a handful of years when Aaron 2294 01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:59,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez. When week Aaron Hernandez is running plays out 2295 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,080 Speaker 1: of the backfield, he catches six passes, He single handedly 2296 01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:04,760 Speaker 1: wins the game. The next week he doesn't even get 2297 01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:09,240 Speaker 1: a target. That's unfair the same way, the same reason 2298 01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,120 Speaker 1: it's unfair is the same reason that you just said. 2299 01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,040 Speaker 1: Because he's not being used. He's they choose not to 2300 01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:15,760 Speaker 1: use him in the way that he used him last week. 2301 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,519 Speaker 1: It's a game plan. In an effort to win the game, 2302 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,360 Speaker 1: they choose to go another way. We assume that all 2303 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,719 Speaker 1: the time. They don't sit the guy out. Why would 2304 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 1: use Aaron Hernandez, by the way, but because I saw 2305 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,080 Speaker 1: him do many things well, it could be in at 2306 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,680 Speaker 1: Gronkowski's the same thing when Gronkowski was in there. They 2307 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,439 Speaker 1: one week, he wins the game because he's got nine 2308 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,400 Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and fifteen yards and two touchdowns. 2309 01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,320 Speaker 1: The next week he's got two targets. Right, this is 2310 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 1: the way we choose to win the game with our 2311 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 1: healthy roster. That's the decision they make, and that what's 2312 01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 1: the difference. The difference is you don't sit down a 2313 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 1: healthy player. You can choose not to use him. What's 2314 01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 1: the difference, because this is the way to win, sitting 2315 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 1: down a healthy players, it's a difference. We're gonna break. 2316 01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,439 Speaker 1: I can't take this anymore. We're gonna break. One goes 2317 01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,880 Speaker 1: Live from One Goes Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. You're 2318 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:12,320 Speaker 1: so wrong. Welcome back, One does Live, One Goes Drive. 2319 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:16,759 Speaker 1: We have settled down slightly. We can't have this discussion. 2320 01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 1: I know, we can't get into it because we both 2321 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:22,280 Speaker 1: see it completely differently, and and I get it. It's radical, 2322 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,880 Speaker 1: you know. And even if you do, even if you do, 2323 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:32,439 Speaker 1: exempt the quarterbacks so that you know, whatever considerations Vegas 2324 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,920 Speaker 1: has about the point spread doesn't change that much. Cares 2325 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,839 Speaker 1: you can let you can let your quarterback play eighteen 2326 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:44,640 Speaker 1: games if he's able. But whatever, Listen, you can't get in. 2327 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,280 Speaker 1: I gotta stop. Your ticket is right up to a point. 2328 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:53,240 Speaker 1: And then whatever, we gotta stop now. I just want 2329 01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:56,240 Speaker 1: to Murph and I. We laugh about this argument we 2330 01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,000 Speaker 1: have all the time. We love having it because we 2331 01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,720 Speaker 1: both feel like they're just we're completely right. And the 2332 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,800 Speaker 1: only reason it came up today is because Andrew Brand's 2333 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:08,280 Speaker 1: talking about schedule. Yeah, and I said to you this morning, 2334 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,679 Speaker 1: I said, now's your chance to ask a qualified observer 2335 01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:14,400 Speaker 1: about NFL business, maybe the most qualified NFL business observer, 2336 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:18,080 Speaker 1: about your plan. Yeah, but more than pooh pooed. Well, 2337 01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,200 Speaker 1: I didn't tell him that the quarterbacks would be exempt. Well, 2338 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 1: you just made that up five minutes ago. No. I 2339 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:25,320 Speaker 1: was brought up by who was at Pete Prisco last 2340 01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,719 Speaker 1: week when he said, yeah, you'd exempt the quarterbacks because 2341 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,960 Speaker 1: you taken her plan and boo a little more development 2342 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 1: on it and see if it gets anywhere. It's not dead, 2343 01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:38,520 Speaker 1: it's gone. It's not dead. OT Minicamp Day two over 2344 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,840 Speaker 1: today and Bill's quarterback Josh Allen, met the media after 2345 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: a practice. I wanted to let you hear what he 2346 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,120 Speaker 1: said today. He was asked about towards the end of practice, 2347 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,760 Speaker 1: it looked like Josh Allen kind of pulled his offense 2348 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,320 Speaker 1: together and sort of rallied the troops. And Josh was 2349 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 1: asked about that, among other things in today's post practice session. Yeah, 2350 01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean we do that often. Um, trying to reset, refocus, 2351 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,160 Speaker 1: you know I didn't. I feel like I started off 2352 01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 1: very hot and didn't do a great job of set 2353 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,880 Speaker 1: the tone early for our offense. So, UM, just trying 2354 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,280 Speaker 1: to reset, get on the same page with everybody, and UM, 2355 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna yeah, refocus. How important that set is. The 2356 01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,040 Speaker 1: last day of this tomorrow coming to go out there 2357 01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,320 Speaker 1: and you'll be good if you start to. Obviously you 2358 01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 1: want to end great, you know, UM, and everyone will 2359 01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,920 Speaker 1: lose your last game. So this, you know, so so 2360 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 1: called it our last game tomorrow together and Uh, you know, 2361 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:26,320 Speaker 1: we want to go out there, we want to execute, 2362 01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,680 Speaker 1: whant to perform well, um, you know, be putting situations 2363 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 1: that are going to challenge us at the same time though, 2364 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,120 Speaker 1: so we had to come prepared tomorrow. We're gonna be 2365 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 1: prepared tomorrow to come out and have a good days. 2366 01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:39,480 Speaker 1: All you want to do is how I'm trying to 2367 01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:42,400 Speaker 1: delve a little bit deeper into that thought process. How 2368 01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,320 Speaker 1: do you go about well, what have you learned from 2369 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 1: last year or about and how do you go about 2370 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,360 Speaker 1: achieving united subject personally off the field and on the field. Well, 2371 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,120 Speaker 1: personally on the field, making the right decisions, putting the 2372 01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,160 Speaker 1: ball where it needs to be on time, accurately, to 2373 01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,920 Speaker 1: let our guys you know, catch the ball and make 2374 01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,360 Speaker 1: plays Off the field. It's developing those relationships with our guys, um, 2375 01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, making sure that we're on the same page 2376 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,920 Speaker 1: and we'll have one kind of mindset towards the same 2377 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,560 Speaker 1: goal and that's that's win football games. You've gone that 2378 01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: how far do you feel you've come on the field, 2379 01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 1: especially putting the ball out? Yeah, I feel like I've 2380 01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:14,480 Speaker 1: done a good job. I've had a lot of great 2381 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,960 Speaker 1: help around me, you know, Dorsey. Um, having him here, 2382 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,160 Speaker 1: it's been a great addition, you know, having the eyes 2383 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 1: like Matt and Tyree and Shay and Coach Gable and um, 2384 01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, we've been all doing a good job in 2385 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,160 Speaker 1: our quarterback room of of seeing things and relaying things 2386 01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,520 Speaker 1: to each other, and that open line of communication that 2387 01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:30,960 Speaker 1: we have has been awesome. You know, it's going to 2388 01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,840 Speaker 1: continue to grow and can you can continue to get better? Um, 2389 01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll see some results on the field too. 2390 01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you do still have a lot to prove? Yeah? Okay, yeah, first, yeah, absolutely, 2391 01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 1: this team does. Yeah. Absolutely. What about yourself? Like I said, 2392 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, we move as a team. Um, we're gonna 2393 01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:51,560 Speaker 1: try to have that same mindset, you know, and we're 2394 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna go with each other. What did you know about 2395 01:56:54,360 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 1: Roberts kicked our butt here? Yeah? It Now he's really 2396 01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,080 Speaker 1: got to report with you while out the field and 2397 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,280 Speaker 1: we kind of talk about that. Yeah, I mean we 2398 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,080 Speaker 1: got some good chemistry obviously, we get to talking similar 2399 01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,800 Speaker 1: interests off the field. He likes to golf. I like 2400 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,760 Speaker 1: the golf. That's that's one thing we kind of have 2401 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,120 Speaker 1: in common. But um, you know, just a super good 2402 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,960 Speaker 1: dude and being able to talk to him. Um, he's intelligent. 2403 01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, he knows the playbook. We're able to talk 2404 01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:23,240 Speaker 1: to each other. And you know, he's really really quick. 2405 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,040 Speaker 1: He's good in and out of his cuts. Um, like 2406 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,480 Speaker 1: I said, he's smart. You know, he makes a mistake 2407 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,440 Speaker 1: once and we talk about it and doesn't make that 2408 01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,200 Speaker 1: mistake again. So it's good to have that type of guy. 2409 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,120 Speaker 1: He's been around the league for a while. Um, you know, 2410 01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,200 Speaker 1: he knows his role and he's still developing and still 2411 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,640 Speaker 1: getting better as a football player as well. Jordan player 2412 01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:45,320 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, we go on and off 2413 01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean on and off the field. We go at 2414 01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:50,520 Speaker 1: it so uh talking talking smack during the home run 2415 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,440 Speaker 1: derby for Micah High Shared event and then on the 2416 01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,840 Speaker 1: field here. It's good to have that that type of competitiveness. Um, 2417 01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:59,120 Speaker 1: that type of challenge. You know, I wouldn't want it 2418 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:00,800 Speaker 1: any other way. You know, we're out here trying to 2419 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:05,800 Speaker 1: make each other better, and um, that's what we're doing. Something. 2420 01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,240 Speaker 1: Think that that's something in their dange. Oh absolutely in 2421 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:11,160 Speaker 1: our defense. You know, look at him last year what 2422 01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,720 Speaker 1: they did and um, I think we're only getting better 2423 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,160 Speaker 1: on defense. You know, the numbers that they put up. 2424 01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,440 Speaker 1: I really believe we got the two best safeties in 2425 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,400 Speaker 1: the league. You know, how they move. I was just 2426 01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,560 Speaker 1: talking about this with um some of our guys yesterday, 2427 01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, twenty one and twenty three. They might as 2428 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 1: well be the same person on the field. They're moving 2429 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,160 Speaker 1: in unison. Uh. They're very vocal with each other, they 2430 01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:32,960 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They disguise things so well. Um, 2431 01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,480 Speaker 1: it's it's a real challenge out there on the football field. 2432 01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:37,880 Speaker 1: So that's only in turning to make us better, starting 2433 01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,200 Speaker 1: to get some of the new guys on the field, 2434 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:44,760 Speaker 1: like Merchant. It's just how we're thing starting off with 2435 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:49,480 Speaker 1: getting apport with those guys who will be league moving forward. Yeah, 2436 01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean it's been awesome. Um, obviously they've been sidelined 2437 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,280 Speaker 1: a little bit and Coles still not doing the team stuff, 2438 01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,040 Speaker 1: but just having him for the routes on the air, 2439 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,120 Speaker 1: seeing how his body moves, how he gets in and 2440 01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 1: out of cuts, seeing how low he is to the 2441 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:01,880 Speaker 1: ground when he makes these guys. I don't know if 2442 01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 1: you have seen him, his hips are so freaking loaded 2443 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,640 Speaker 1: the ground. It's really crazy how shifty he is. So 2444 01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,720 Speaker 1: it's good just to get that timing with him and 2445 01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,360 Speaker 1: obviously Mitch get him on the field, getting back in 2446 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:15,280 Speaker 1: that football shape. You know, there's nothing like football shape. 2447 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, you can do all the stuff off the field, 2448 01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:19,360 Speaker 1: but once you get thrown into a game or practice situations, 2449 01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,840 Speaker 1: these reps, they add up real quick. So we're catching 2450 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 1: up there, and you know, we gotta be one person 2451 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 1: this year, you know, me and Mitch. So that's what 2452 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 1: we're working on right now, having that open line of communication, 2453 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,520 Speaker 1: trying to see the same thing at the same time. 2454 01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, we're working on that. But it's been awesome 2455 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:39,760 Speaker 1: to have those guys out there from this point until 2456 01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:43,600 Speaker 1: the report of the dream. I mean, obviously still trying 2457 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,200 Speaker 1: to work out, stay in shape, and you know, actually 2458 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:47,840 Speaker 1: working now it's going to ramp up probably a little 2459 01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:49,720 Speaker 1: bit during this time and trying to get the best 2460 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,320 Speaker 1: physical condition possible before we get to camp. But still 2461 01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,720 Speaker 1: working on mechanics, trying to get something where, you know, 2462 01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 1: some of the guys get together and whether I have 2463 01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:00,560 Speaker 1: to fly out somewhere or fly out to multiple places 2464 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,480 Speaker 1: to go throw with my guys, that's what I'm gonna 2465 02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:05,960 Speaker 1: try to do. Josh, how do we reconcile just the 2466 02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,240 Speaker 1: happy go lucky guy you are that you see in 2467 02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:11,000 Speaker 1: further cameras, and you know the beer chucking guy you 2468 02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 1: know who's in public at the stadium, like at at 2469 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,960 Speaker 1: the baseball softball and the competitive guy, that competitive guy 2470 02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,400 Speaker 1: in you Tlash talking Jalen Ramsey on the field Lash year, 2471 02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:24,840 Speaker 1: How don't pretty cool? How do you balance that? And 2472 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:28,680 Speaker 1: because we shoot in somebody's too, josh at us. I 2473 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:30,080 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't say that. I think I'm the same 2474 02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,760 Speaker 1: person throughout you know, anytime I step on the field 2475 02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,400 Speaker 1: or off the field, I'm still as competitive as anybody 2476 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 1: out there. Um. But I one thing I'm always gonna 2477 02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:40,080 Speaker 1: have as a positive attitude. And I if you want 2478 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,600 Speaker 1: to say happy go lucky, that's that's that's okay with me. 2479 02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,680 Speaker 1: But it's just a positive outlook on life. It's a 2480 02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:46,960 Speaker 1: positive outlook on our season. I'm really looking forward to 2481 02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:48,400 Speaker 1: what we can do this year. Where do you draw 2482 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:51,760 Speaker 1: up draw that the positive outlook? I mean, well, there's 2483 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:53,320 Speaker 1: there are there are a lot of filth about your 2484 02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:58,280 Speaker 1: shoulders that we don't achieve you beer so much. Yeah, 2485 02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up with the great family on me. 2486 02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:02,840 Speaker 1: My dad was a huge influence in my life and um, 2487 02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, the type of attitude that he instilled in 2488 02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,200 Speaker 1: me was, you know, don't get better, get better, find 2489 02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:09,280 Speaker 1: a way that that you can get better at something 2490 02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:12,880 Speaker 1: instead of complaining about um everything. So that's kind of 2491 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:14,920 Speaker 1: where I get it from, and that'll never change, Jos. 2492 02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:18,560 Speaker 1: A fine line between pushing yourself to get better and 2493 02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 1: realizing that you've made road to reconcile that within yourself. Well, 2494 02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,320 Speaker 1: I definitely think. You know, as you get better, you 2495 02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:29,000 Speaker 1: have to to kind of step back and see where 2496 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,600 Speaker 1: you've progressed. Um, obviously there's something that you can get 2497 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 1: better at every day and every day having a certain 2498 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,560 Speaker 1: mindset and trying to pick out something specific to go 2499 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,120 Speaker 1: out and work on. Um, but at the same time 2500 02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,200 Speaker 1: getting out there and understand, okay, like this part of 2501 02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:45,880 Speaker 1: my game is feeling good, let's try to work on 2502 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,160 Speaker 1: something else, and let's revisit this and make sure that 2503 02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,840 Speaker 1: that that thing is good to go. You know, Um, 2504 02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:52,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be a constant grind though. I mean, 2505 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,080 Speaker 1: every time you step on the field, you gotta find 2506 02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:58,120 Speaker 1: something else to get better at. Play for you early 2507 02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,800 Speaker 1: in practice there, Josh, I know it's early on in 2508 02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:02,560 Speaker 1: that kind of relationship. I know you're gonna say you 2509 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:04,440 Speaker 1: always trust your guys, but when he can make a 2510 02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,880 Speaker 1: play like that for you, how much does that kind 2511 02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,720 Speaker 1: of reinforce that bond that you're trying to get with 2512 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 1: some of these new additions to receiving. Oh, I mean, 2513 02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:15,320 Speaker 1: it absolutely does. And especially there's a time moment where 2514 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, UM, as an offense, we didn't start off 2515 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:19,920 Speaker 1: too hot and he went out there and made a play. 2516 02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,600 Speaker 1: And you know, coach McDermott always preaches, you know, we 2517 02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:25,360 Speaker 1: want smart, tough guys UM that can make a play 2518 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: to win a game. That's a play that can win 2519 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,440 Speaker 1: a game. So that's a type of effort and type 2520 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:33,280 Speaker 1: of attitude we're looking for in players. Obviously, you already 2521 02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:37,600 Speaker 1: have to kind of traffic coming in here. UM last 2522 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:39,720 Speaker 1: year and traditionary hasn't been a lot easier and kind 2523 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:42,000 Speaker 1: of just get back into the football groove and you're 2524 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,480 Speaker 1: not as as scrambly as you were last Yeah. Absolutely, 2525 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean one, knowing where you're living, no one where 2526 02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:51,080 Speaker 1: you're playing, is a huge um advantage. You know, going 2527 02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,120 Speaker 1: through last year the draft process, training in one spot, 2528 02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,360 Speaker 1: traveling to all these different spots and then trying to 2529 02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,520 Speaker 1: find out where you're gonna play, so that that's one advantage, 2530 02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,600 Speaker 1: and then two being in the same city for a year, 2531 02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,600 Speaker 1: the same very good, same terminology. Having such a great 2532 02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,960 Speaker 1: rapport with Dave's knowing the reps that I'm gonna get, um, 2533 02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's all been super advantageous for me. And 2534 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm super excited that I've been able to do that. 2535 02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:16,080 Speaker 1: And I'm really trusting what's around me, you know. And 2536 02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:17,520 Speaker 1: like I said, the coaches that we got in our 2537 02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,880 Speaker 1: room right now are fantastic. We've been doing a really 2538 02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:23,160 Speaker 1: good job in that aspect. So yeah, I'm just I'm 2539 02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,040 Speaker 1: excited to get back to work. Here come training camp. 2540 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Josh Shallen Bill's quarterback Meetia with the media. Some of 2541 02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the comments here today. Happy to listen to some of those. 2542 02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call or two, Steve. Let's go 2543 02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,640 Speaker 1: to Gregg and free Donia. Hello, Greg, you're on the air. 2544 02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stir the pot a little bit. First, 2545 02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:43,160 Speaker 1: of all three points to the tasker plan, so I'll 2546 02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:44,960 Speaker 1: get through them because number three is the most important. 2547 02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Number one. Steve's right, they'll adapt to whatever the rules are. Second, 2548 02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,840 Speaker 1: if they're worried about injuries and maintenance. Taking a couple 2549 02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:55,600 Speaker 1: of weeks off as fine. We see it in every 2550 02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,760 Speaker 1: other pro league. Most important, though, Murph, if you're going 2551 02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:02,680 Speaker 1: to couch your descent in your concern for the fans, 2552 02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:05,680 Speaker 1: how about not making me pay full price for two 2553 02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:09,240 Speaker 1: preseason games when nobody plays healthy or not. I'd be 2554 02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:10,880 Speaker 1: up for that. It's not gonna happen, but i'd be 2555 02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,040 Speaker 1: up for that. Why make it worse for regular season games? Fan? 2556 02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,160 Speaker 1: So as a fan, instead of making I know it's 2557 02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:18,800 Speaker 1: not gonna happen, I get it, they're not gonna lose 2558 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,200 Speaker 1: that revenue. But as a fan, let's have the game matter. 2559 02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,680 Speaker 1: And I'm okay. If three guys said, if five guys said, 2560 02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,120 Speaker 1: if hey guys said, it's better than going to a 2561 02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:29,800 Speaker 1: game where everybody sits or and ninety dollars to not 2562 02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,280 Speaker 1: go to the game because nobody's playing, gotcha, I understand it. 2563 02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I understand that's one aspect of it. And that's and 2564 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,360 Speaker 1: right now, the four games preseason is twenty five percent 2565 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,200 Speaker 1: of the regular season, So it's a it's a big 2566 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,080 Speaker 1: chunk of the football they're gonna play, and a big 2567 02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:47,080 Speaker 1: chunk of when you see nobody play as it sounds 2568 02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,160 Speaker 1: if you get my point. So games don't count exactly, 2569 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and the guys that are playing in the regular season 2570 02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:55,280 Speaker 1: aren't playing in those games. Maybe one half of one game. 2571 02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:59,480 Speaker 1: That's not much. Hey, NFL True or False brought to 2572 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:02,600 Speaker 1: you by y Te's Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. 2573 02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:05,800 Speaker 1: What do we have your true false? Yeah? You for it. Yeah, 2574 02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I guess so, because I didn't have it in my 2575 02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,680 Speaker 1: NFL true or false. Panthers will be an explosive offense 2576 02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:16,360 Speaker 1: with a healthy Cam Newton. North Turner, the offensive coordinator 2577 02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers, says Newton's been throwing for the last month. 2578 02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Is arm is good? Really attacked his rehab And so 2579 02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:26,600 Speaker 1: there's a speculation out there that the Panthers will be 2580 02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:30,200 Speaker 1: explosive with healthy Cam Newton. I'm getting false. Cam Newton 2581 02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:33,240 Speaker 1: North Turner might be the problem with the Panthers offense, 2582 02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 1: not Cam Newton and his arm strength. I'm going false. 2583 02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,120 Speaker 1: They won't be explosive. They might be capable, they might 2584 02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:40,560 Speaker 1: be okay, but I don't see explosive. I will say 2585 02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:45,720 Speaker 1: false as well. Carolina Panthers with an unhealthy Cam Newton 2586 02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:48,960 Speaker 1: word explosive last year, and with a healthy Cam Newton 2587 02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:52,560 Speaker 1: this year, I don't think much is gonna change. I 2588 02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:54,560 Speaker 1: just don't think you can say what you want about 2589 02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, good back, very versatile back. I just don't 2590 02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,360 Speaker 1: think they've got it. I just don't think they got 2591 02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,440 Speaker 1: enough weapons, and I don't think Cam being healthy he's 2592 02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna make that big a difference. Certainly, he'll make a 2593 02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:06,840 Speaker 1: play once in a while, but he's gonna need more 2594 02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:08,880 Speaker 1: help than Christian McCaffrey to do it. It's a really 2595 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:15,280 Speaker 1: stupid idea. We've talked about a couple today. The NFL, Sorry, 2596 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,800 Speaker 1: the NFL should eliminate wildcard playoff spots tour false. This 2597 02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,640 Speaker 1: came about from a sports iletrated dot com article. This 2598 02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:24,040 Speaker 1: is what happens when you're deep into offseason. Let me 2599 02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,800 Speaker 1: just read this to you. While wildcards should should no 2600 02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,400 Speaker 1: longer exist, the league can still get its fill of 2601 02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,560 Speaker 1: hot play in action with tiebreaker games. If two teams 2602 02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:34,760 Speaker 1: have an identical record to top of divisions, settle it 2603 02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,480 Speaker 1: down the field before the season. The NFL would book 2604 02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:41,120 Speaker 1: eight neutral fields in the event of division title tiebreaker games. 2605 02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 1: So we played the first Sunday after the regular season. 2606 02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,800 Speaker 1: There could be as many as eight games on tiebreakers Sunday. 2607 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,960 Speaker 1: So the stupid article in sports sort of says, eliminate 2608 02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,840 Speaker 1: a wildcard, but let's have tiebreakers? What are we doing? 2609 02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:54,160 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. This is false and it's stupid. 2610 02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Can I put that up false slash stupid? That is 2611 02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:59,800 Speaker 1: that worse than my eighteen games? Or is it better? 2612 02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:01,320 Speaker 1: It's not worse, but do you want to go down 2613 02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,600 Speaker 1: that road again? It's not worse. I agree, it's I 2614 02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,960 Speaker 1: think that's crazy Talkded. You wouldn't be eliminating wild card games. 2615 02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,800 Speaker 1: You'd be expanding the playoffs to include nineteen teens and 2616 02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:14,200 Speaker 1: neutral sites moutral sites. Why I don't see the ben 2617 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,640 Speaker 1: because then you don't get now. I agree, I think 2618 02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:19,760 Speaker 1: it's great. I don't like that. I don't like the 2619 02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:22,680 Speaker 1: plan because it makes the playoffs too easy to get into. 2620 02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:25,960 Speaker 1: And here's our last NFL true false. Chargers wide receiver 2621 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,720 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is unfairly overlooked. Pro football Focus said that 2622 02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Allen's two year receiving grade ninety one point two Pro 2623 02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:35,960 Speaker 1: football Focus ranks fourth among eighty four NFL wine outs 2624 02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:39,280 Speaker 1: would one hundred more or more targets since twenty seventeen. 2625 02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:43,040 Speaker 1: Only Michael Thomas, DeAndre Hopkins, and Julio Jones have a 2626 02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:47,839 Speaker 1: higher grade over the last two years than Keenan Allen. Unfairly, overlooked, 2627 02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:52,520 Speaker 1: truor false. I'll just say false. You know, we know 2628 02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:54,800 Speaker 1: how good I think Keenan Allen is really good. I 2629 02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know if he's elite. I don't know if he's 2630 02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:59,240 Speaker 1: top tier wide receiver in the league. I think he's 2631 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,840 Speaker 1: really good. I'm saying false. How is it unfair? You 2632 02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:06,440 Speaker 1: know that the team you know, can't win a playoff game, 2633 02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:08,760 Speaker 1: can't get deep in the playoff game. That just he's 2634 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:12,880 Speaker 1: got a great quarterback throwing to him. I don't know 2635 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,480 Speaker 1: how it's unfair either, So I'm say false as well. 2636 02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah he's a good player, don't get me wrong. I 2637 02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:19,600 Speaker 1: don't Yeah, he's a really good player, and he's really 2638 02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:22,680 Speaker 1: emerged as a force. But that's not unfair. You know, 2639 02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,440 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about today at all. What hard knocks 2640 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,560 Speaker 1: going to the Raiders. Maybe we'll have a minute to try. 2641 02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,280 Speaker 1: You almost think now that it's done, of course, right, 2642 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,360 Speaker 1: you know they were made for hard knocks. They're moving 2643 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:36,400 Speaker 1: to they're moving to Vegas. It's gonna be the Vegas 2644 02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:40,840 Speaker 1: raid US. Yeah, right, Vegas raid Us, and so all 2645 02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:45,560 Speaker 1: kinds of stories. Yeah, Antonio Brown, John Gruden, Richie Incognito 2646 02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:49,160 Speaker 1: to name three of them. You know, Yeah, it's gonna 2647 02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:51,720 Speaker 1: be great. It's gonna be great. A break here, we're 2648 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,760 Speaker 1: back with more. One goes live from One Bill's Drive 2649 02:08:53,800 --> 02:09:09,520 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What we learned presented by Advanced 2650 02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses with the 2651 02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:16,040 Speaker 1: finest and security and home theater. He preferred Alarm at 2652 02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,360 Speaker 1: home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills and everybody. Kim 2653 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Jones in studio with us today. She was here for 2654 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,080 Speaker 1: NFL Network covering the Bills Mini camp workout today. We 2655 02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:26,240 Speaker 1: asked him Jones about our topic of the day, which 2656 02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Bill's offseason addition was she most excited to watch. Here's 2657 02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:34,160 Speaker 1: what she had to say. I'm also excited to see 2658 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Frank Or. I love the potential of Shady and Frank Or. 2659 02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what ends up happening, But it 2660 02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:45,360 Speaker 1: certainly seems like this organization's open to both of them 2661 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,960 Speaker 1: being on the roster and both of them being contributors 2662 02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,600 Speaker 1: and being competitive for carries as we know they will 2663 02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,200 Speaker 1: be because they are NFL players who have had great 2664 02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:56,160 Speaker 1: careers more than twenty five thousand rush yards between them. 2665 02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:59,280 Speaker 1: I just I love it. First one she said she 2666 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,000 Speaker 1: was excited out was the center. I think we talked 2667 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,400 Speaker 1: her off. That's the only thing I said today that 2668 02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:07,080 Speaker 1: Murph thinks I was right about. That's not true. There 2669 02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,880 Speaker 1: were a couple also on the show today, builds new 2670 02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:13,040 Speaker 1: offensive line coach Bobby Johnson talking about all the veterans 2671 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:16,160 Speaker 1: he has in his offensive line meeting room and how 2672 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,960 Speaker 1: that works with the rookies in there as well. The 2673 02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:21,960 Speaker 1: positive is this is there's a lot of guys, like 2674 02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I said, with the body of work that are veterans. 2675 02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,720 Speaker 1: You have a guy like Cody who's a complete rookie 2676 02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:28,840 Speaker 1: who he's just trying to figure out sometimes, like, hey, 2677 02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,560 Speaker 1: which way am I going today? The good thing about 2678 02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:33,440 Speaker 1: is he has some veterans to lean on, some veterans, 2679 02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:34,760 Speaker 1: and we have a good group of guys that though 2680 02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,840 Speaker 1: they've kind of take him under his wing, under their 2681 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,760 Speaker 1: wings where they can talk about hey, you know, hey, 2682 02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:42,880 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit, just hey handle a and 2683 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:45,240 Speaker 1: b we'll get to see later on. So I think 2684 02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:47,840 Speaker 1: that's helped him quite a bit trying to acclimate as 2685 02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:50,320 Speaker 1: opposed to maybe some guys who don't have that veteran experience, 2686 02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:53,080 Speaker 1: maybe our first a second year player. They they're still 2687 02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what they're doing. It takes a 2688 02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:57,480 Speaker 1: couple of years, you know, to truly get the ins 2689 02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,240 Speaker 1: and out to this game at this level. So I 2690 02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:03,080 Speaker 1: think it's helping him. Um, and I also know this 2691 02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:05,080 Speaker 1: those veterans, they know it's important to have a guy 2692 02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:07,000 Speaker 1: playing next to him at a certain level, so they're 2693 02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,640 Speaker 1: invested too. I like Bobby Johnson. I like the way 2694 02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:14,520 Speaker 1: he thinks. Yeah, he's he's got some leadership qualities in him. 2695 02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's good to sit there. He's got 2696 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,080 Speaker 1: some insight as to how those guys, what makes him tick. 2697 02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:21,440 Speaker 1: And he's a good coach. I mean, you can just 2698 02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,800 Speaker 1: he's the right kind of guy. He's a lot like 2699 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:27,200 Speaker 1: the best coaches I was ever around, too. He's got 2700 02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:29,960 Speaker 1: that about it. It's fun to see and it's like, 2701 02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,160 Speaker 1: let's face it, sitting in front of a room full 2702 02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,200 Speaker 1: of three hundred pounds six to five guys is pretty 2703 02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:37,200 Speaker 1: tough room. To command. You know, you gotta have something 2704 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,680 Speaker 1: in you. You know he does. Um. Frank Breik talked 2705 02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,720 Speaker 1: about Bobby. He was with the Frank Break in the 2706 02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:43,800 Speaker 1: Colts last year. Frank Breik said, that was kind of 2707 02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:46,360 Speaker 1: a big loss for Indianapolis to lose Bobby Johnson, Right, 2708 02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:48,400 Speaker 1: I think he has I think Bobby's one of those 2709 02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:50,440 Speaker 1: guys that clicks with his players, you know, I think 2710 02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:52,800 Speaker 1: his presence and you know, we saw it here sitting here, 2711 02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:55,480 Speaker 1: you could kind of he has the what it takes 2712 02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,160 Speaker 1: in his personality command a room full of really tough guys. 2713 02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,560 Speaker 1: That's a tough audience. And I think, you know, Frank 2714 02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:02,920 Speaker 1: probably saw that in his in his uh in his 2715 02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:05,960 Speaker 1: players and the way he handled Let's face it, Indianapolis 2716 02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:09,120 Speaker 1: had a really really good offensive line last year. You 2717 02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:11,040 Speaker 1: gotta give Bobby Johnson at least some of the credit 2718 02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,760 Speaker 1: for that. Um, you will not be with us tomorrow. 2719 02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:16,720 Speaker 1: In fact, you're off until next Tuesday. Now festivals begins. 2720 02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:18,840 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, what can I say? We got 2721 02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:22,280 Speaker 1: a huge family wedding weekend and Murph, I gotta get 2722 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:23,440 Speaker 1: out of here soon as the shows over because I 2723 02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna mow my lawn. Get out in preparation for all 2724 02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:30,000 Speaker 1: the guests. I'm you know, it's like I gotta I'm 2725 02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:32,240 Speaker 1: a jack of all trades man. That's good. And when 2726 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you're done with that, coming over and do my lawn. 2727 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:37,080 Speaker 1: And and I'm gonna I'm gonna be a schedule league 2728 02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,800 Speaker 1: schedule consultant pretty soon. Probably, I'm sure I think about 2729 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,000 Speaker 1: think about it over the way. Look, I'm gonna meditate. 2730 02:12:43,120 --> 02:12:45,200 Speaker 1: I love you. I'm gonna meditate so wrong. It is 2731 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,720 Speaker 1: such a wrong thing. I hate to see it go 2732 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:50,640 Speaker 1: down that path. I thought maybe, I thought maybe Andrew 2733 02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Brandt might have talked me off the ledge We've got. 2734 02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,400 Speaker 1: You think him a little bit like man. And just 2735 02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:57,520 Speaker 1: his reaction Andrew Brandt was like, huh, let me tell 2736 02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:00,440 Speaker 1: you something. I was highly disappointed in his reaction. Oh wow. 2737 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:03,560 Speaker 1: His reaction was what what are you nuts? I think 2738 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,720 Speaker 1: that's most but whatever thinking through he didn't say what 2739 02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,480 Speaker 1: are you nuts? But you could hear it in his voice. Right, 2740 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:11,840 Speaker 1: good show for us tomorrow, even without Steve ed Brown, 2741 02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:16,080 Speaker 1: sports director at the CBS affiliate in Rochester's going to 2742 02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,480 Speaker 1: join us as our co host tomorrow. He's done it before. 2743 02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:22,040 Speaker 1: He'll be good. What d Brown will be with us tomorrow. 2744 02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:25,040 Speaker 1: Chris Brown will be live with us at practice tomorrow. 2745 02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Matt Bowen will join us tomorrow from um NFL matchup 2746 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:33,360 Speaker 1: on ESPN and Bill's Wide Receivers. Coach chat Hall. We 2747 02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:35,760 Speaker 1: will miss you though, Steve. You're gonna beat up around. 2748 02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,400 Speaker 1: No room for me. Yeah, that it is. That's gonna 2749 02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:40,080 Speaker 1: be a good show. That's a good ross Chess. I'll 2750 02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:41,720 Speaker 1: be good. I'd haven't need a chance to say hi 2751 02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Toight chat Hall. I wanted to meet him. I'll have 2752 02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:44,640 Speaker 1: to wait for another time to do it. Come on, 2753 02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:46,560 Speaker 1: come on, He's coming on with us tomorrow. Thanks for 2754 02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:49,880 Speaker 1: giving me to day. The family appreciates him. Appreciate and 2755 02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:53,560 Speaker 1: control of days off. Production assistant George Blast, Jeff Colton, 2756 02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:56,640 Speaker 1: That Thomas Honold Or Kelly Rude, jj Urto, Kevin Cartis, 2757 02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:59,520 Speaker 1: James Robold, our producer Jay Harris join us tomorrow twelve 2758 02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:01,400 Speaker 1: noon final. Are they in the Mini caamp Tomorrow? It's 2759 02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:04,280 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. 2760 02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:06,200 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio