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Speaker 2: it's a pleasure to be with you. I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: have you. You don't want to miss this hour because

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Speaker 2: we've got good stuff coming up.

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Speaker 3: Started with this first story.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I saw this the other day said

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Speaker 2: I really want to talk to this professor, because, as

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Speaker 2: you know Taylor Swift, it's impossible to miss her. The

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Speaker 2: Aerostour just topped a billion in sales. It may go

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Speaker 2: to two billion before she's done. Traveling the globe her movie.

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Speaker 2: She bypassed the normal distribution routes and had a huge

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Speaker 2: hit with the movie that's still playing, still drawing people in.

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Speaker 2: And then Time magazine a Person of the Year, which

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Speaker 2: it probably came as well. There's actually a lot about

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Speaker 2: that that's fascinating because most Taylor Swift fans probably have

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Speaker 2: never heard of Time magazine. And then most other people

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Speaker 2: are probably shocked to find the Time magazine still exists,

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Speaker 2: but nonetheless Time Magazine's Person of the Year. But this

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Speaker 2: is the story that caught my attention that at UC

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Speaker 2: Berkeley you can actually take a class in Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: It's called Artistry and Entrepreneurship Taylor's version. And it's a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to welcome to the show, Crystal, harryanto A, Crystal,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Did I get your name right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct, Doug, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: It's so great to be on iHeartRadio. Actually, my favorite

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Speaker 4: rendition of love Story is the one that Taylor performed

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Speaker 4: at the iHeartRadio Music Festival in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're happy to have you now.

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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of background questions on this before

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Speaker 2: we get into the nitty gritty. What department does this

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Speaker 2: class fall under?

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Speaker 4: Early part of the hospital of Business.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that makes sense. I mean she's an industry

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Speaker 2: I mean, why would you not want to study? And

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Speaker 2: I actually, I mean this is I got a upfront

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Speaker 2: say I'm not a swiftie, but I'm also not a

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Speaker 2: tailor hater. First of all, I'm not her demographic and

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to Frank Sinatra and Eli Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening.

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Speaker 2: I've always been listening to the wrong music from my age,

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Speaker 2: so I'm hopeless. But here's the thing about her. I

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Speaker 3: I hear it.

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Speaker 2: I've listened to her music when I read about her,

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Speaker 2: and I hear about a title I don't know I

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Speaker 2: have you know, you know who the AI name. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say Alexa. Everybody's Alexa. Just went off

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Speaker 2: to play this song, so I can hear it. But

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Speaker 2: what I do I don't understand is how this became

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very good, various question, and it's going

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Speaker 4: to be part of what we explore in the class.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be part of about her as an

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Speaker 4: artist and her as an entrepreneur and how those two

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Speaker 4: factors mold together to become this great I think acolyte

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Speaker 4: is a word that you use just to take I mean,

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Speaker 4: as you know, as you mentioned in the intro, the

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Speaker 4: the Taylor Slip experience. And I think the way that

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Speaker 4: in a myriad of ways. So it's not only that

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Speaker 4: she's authentic throughout every every album she's put out, every

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Speaker 4: just completely. Reputation is this dark, edgy persona, while Lover

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Speaker 4: But she's able to take the way that she's able

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Speaker 4: The way she can engages with her fans personally, and

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Speaker 4: it's just as fans, we listen to music and we

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Speaker 4: learn about ourselves, like what makes us unique? What are

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Speaker 4: of brings together a huge fandom and makes this makes

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Crystal Harrianto, who is a grad

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Speaker 2: student and she's teaching at UC Berkeley a class called

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Speaker 2: Artistry and Entrepreneurship Taylor's version. I bet you have no

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Speaker 2: absenteeism at all in this class. I was kidding before,

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Speaker 2: but you know, given how the hot secondary market for

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Speaker 2: It's just funny, just the suggestion. You know, you might

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Speaker 2: question that she is tapped into what people dream of

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Speaker 2: is creating a soundtrack that will fifty years from now,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the amazing things about music in general,

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Speaker 2: So she has mastered both ends of the term show business.

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Speaker 2: The show parts a huge emotional, psychic hit, but the

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Speaker 2: business side she makes no mistakes, no mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd agree with you there, quick correction, I am

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Speaker 4: a recent graduate. Oh sorry, so I graduated. I graduated

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well maybe I need remedial reading so I can

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Speaker 2: me of. Actually, another one who makes no mistakes is

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton makes no mistakes. It's seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: She just dressed up as a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and

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Speaker 3: Everybody loved it.

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Speaker 2: She just she just doesn't make any mistakes with her brand.

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Speaker 4: I love, Yeah, I love Dolly Parton's performance with Miley

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Speaker 3: Past New Year's Yeah, Joline. Miley does a great version

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Speaker 2: So who's taking the class and why are they taking

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Speaker 4: Well, the class officially launches in January twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: So I still waiting for my student roster, but I've

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Speaker 4: What I even want that? And it's so I'm just

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Speaker 2: Well, by, by the way, you've just raised a point

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Speaker 2: that gets lost frequently in the shuffle about this idolatry,

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Speaker 2: It's a relentless machine that you end up in. And

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Speaker 4: Definitely, I think Taylor Taylor Swift has navigated this line

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Speaker 2: Forty, David Vesse coming up, mister La Dodger, and we're

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Speaker 1: Dan, how are you hello?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the shortfall in revenue for the two year period

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Speaker 3: How can their numbers be this far off?

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Speaker 2: That's you know, when you hear about pay their fair share,

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Speaker 2: cal Matters columnists, thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, DAVIDSA, where's Otani gonna go? Speaking

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Speaker 2: On Tuesday. It's the John cob Show. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: Of course, Ken Champeau is off to a golden retirement,

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Speaker 2: well earned, by the way. Conway still got Does he

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Speaker 3: A bird flu? Which one is it? This time?

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Speaker 6: So is?

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Speaker 3: It's what he does with monkeys and birds? I don't

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Washington and Joe Kwan will begin for Timmy tonight

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Speaker 2: Let's find out the truth because we've got with us

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Speaker 3: How are you hey?

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Speaker 6: Great to hear you again, And yes, Otani watch went

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Speaker 6: to another level today because a Dodger fan site, not

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Speaker 1: No, but he is.

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Speaker 6: He did immigrate to Canada and is a big success

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Speaker 2: Well that's that dampens that rumor a bit. But obviously

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Speaker 2: if I'm allowed to use that cliche, to be real

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Speaker 2: why are we talking about this because show hey Otani is.

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Speaker 2: He is the Taylor Swift of baseball. He's an unprecedented talent. Really,

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Speaker 2: Amazing talent, a game changer, a superstar if ever there

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Speaker 2: was one. And who are the real competitors? We know

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure if the Giants are still in the running,

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Speaker 6: And look, I'm not saying he's not signing with the

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Speaker 6: Otani is very much the opposite when it comes to

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Speaker 6: This whole process has been very secretive. There has been

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Speaker 6: So it's been the complete opposite, and that's why nobody

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Dave sa from A five to seventy

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Speaker 2: about a couple of Otani's quoted this are told that

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Speaker 2: he said to somebody and it filtered to us that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want he couldn't see himself playing in New York.

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Speaker 2: But the Yankees obviously still are out there as the Yankees,

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Speaker 2: as the evil Empire. And then there is a guy

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Speaker 2: named Steve Kono owns the Mets, who I understand flew

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Speaker 2: over to Japan to meet we're told with Yoshiwo Yamamoto,

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Speaker 2: the picture that everybody's coveting. But as long as he's

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Speaker 2: in Japan, I mean, what's to stop him from having

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Speaker 2: a covert meeting with shoe Hey Otani? And God knows

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Speaker 2: he's got enough money to bring him back.

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Speaker 6: Yes, but Otani is in Newport Beach as we speak, Doug,

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Speaker 6: He's not in Japan.

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Speaker 3: Now, do you have your people over there? Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you outside his driveway? I want to know what

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Speaker 2: photographers are at Newport Beach.

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Speaker 6: Multiple reports and confirmed that Otani is still in Newport

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Speaker 6: Beach and he was actually spotted at the Equinox Gym

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Speaker 6: in Orange County. There was an Instagram post by trainer

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Speaker 6: out there that took a picture with Otani at the

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Speaker 6: Equinox in Orange County. So by all accounts, he is

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Speaker 6: still a Newport Beach. But yeah, the Yankees and Mets

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Speaker 6: seemed to be at the point where they don't believe

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Speaker 6: they had a real chance at Shohei Otani. The Yankees

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Speaker 6: just made a huge trade for one of the other

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Speaker 6: great players in baseball, Juan Soto, and the Mets obviously

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Speaker 6: are going after the most coveted Japanese picture this year,

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Speaker 6: twenty five year old Yama Moto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously the decision that Otani makes. Whenever that

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Speaker 2: decision comes, if it's today, tomorrow, or you know, two

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Speaker 2: weeks from tomorrow, the bottom line is is that that

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Speaker 2: will probably unlock the off season free agent deals. It

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Speaker 2: just seems like the whole industry is really frozen. With

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Speaker 2: the exception of the one Soto deal. It's just locked

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Speaker 2: up until people find out where Otani's going.

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Speaker 6: Right, because there's so many big players still waiting on

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Speaker 6: his decision, and depending on where he goes or doesn't go,

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Speaker 6: teams will have to pivot to some of these other

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Speaker 6: players like Blake Snell or for the Dodgers, Yam Momoto

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Speaker 6: and or any other hitter to try to find a

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Speaker 6: way to replace some production that they may be losing

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Speaker 6: with their thirty home run hitting DHJD Martinez Right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, listen, David, Thanks so much for coming on with us.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing you on the MLB Network two in

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Speaker 2: addition to listening to you on AM five to seventy.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time today. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: You're the best.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Okay, kick kat Crime. We're going to get into

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Speaker 2: that when we come back. I maybe we'll hear from

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Washington and Joe Kwan coming up for Timmy and

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Speaker 2: just a bit.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: Online at KFI AM six forty dot com, Forward Slash

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Speaker 2: Listen and let me invite you again because it's tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So if you're out in a bout tomorrow in the

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Speaker 2: San Fernanda Valley or anywhere in America, fly to Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles and then drive to San Fernana Valley. I will

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Speaker 2: be doing a book signing of my novel Frank Shadow

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Speaker 2: at David K.

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Speaker 3: Books.

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Speaker 2: That's Kaye David K Books in Woodland Hills, right there

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Speaker 2: on Ventura Boulevard under the big yellow sign between shop

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Speaker 2: and Fallbrook, And I'll be there from noon to two pm.

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Speaker 2: And I would love to see you and say hello

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Speaker 2: and be happy to sign a book. And as you're

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Speaker 2: buying for the holidays, don't forget nothing says Christmas like

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Speaker 2: a novel Frank Shadow in particular. Love to see it tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: So come on out noon to two pm. David K

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Speaker 2: Books right there in Woodland Hills. So there are crimes

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Speaker 2: and then there are crimes. And sometimes you see a

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Speaker 2: crime where you say, oh, I get it, like this

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Speaker 2: is the most famous explanation of crime was the bank

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Speaker 2: Robert Willie Sutton, And they asked him why he robbed

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Speaker 2: banks and he said, because that's where the money is,

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Speaker 2: all right, very famous line in American culture. But every

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Speaker 2: once in a while you'll see a crime that's so

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Speaker 2: astonishing that you don't understand how somebody even thought to

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Speaker 2: commit it. Like for a while, you know, there are people.

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Speaker 2: There are trucks that go around and they're big tanker trucks,

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Speaker 2: and they suck out the filthy grease from deep fry machines.

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Speaker 2: Like if there's a company that has a lot of

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Speaker 2: French fries or fried chicken or something like that, they

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Speaker 2: take the dirty oil away and allegedly clean it up

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Speaker 2: in some capacity. Somebody hijacked one of those trucks, and

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Speaker 2: I guess that there's an aftermarket for stolen French fried grease.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you put those pieces together. Many

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Speaker 2: years ago, there was a guy who went and he

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Speaker 2: killed somebody doing this accidentally. He was making helicopter rotor

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Speaker 2: blades at home, Like the small ones in the back

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Speaker 2: of the helicopter couldn't make it is of his easy

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Speaker 2: bake oven wasn't big enough, so he couldn't make it,

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Speaker 2: you know, the full.

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Speaker 3: Size rotor blades. Well, here's the story.

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Speaker 2: I saw the daily news about these exotic flavored KitKat bars,

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Speaker 2: you know, over in Japan, they make all these spicy

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Speaker 2: flavored kitcat bars and they're very desirable for people to

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Speaker 2: like the extra tweak to their KitKat habit. And the

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Speaker 2: guy had fifty five thousand dollars worth of them coming

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Speaker 2: into the Oh no, excuse me, fifty five thousand kit

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Speaker 2: cat bars worth one hundred and ten thousand. That's what

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Speaker 2: he paid for him. And he hoped to flip him

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Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty thousand, but somebody hacked into

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Speaker 2: the trucking company website and managed to divert them. And

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Speaker 2: here's the deal. When they track down who stole the

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Speaker 2: KitKat bars, that person's not going to do well in prison.

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Speaker 2: You just can't do well in prison if your crime

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Speaker 2: is you stole kitcat bars. I could just see that conversation.

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Speaker 3: In the yard. What are he and Va Shifty? I

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Speaker 3: showed up with school bus the kids? What about you?

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Speaker 2: I stole some exotic kit cat bars. Just I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: You're just not going to do well in the yard

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Speaker 2: with that. You know you're gonna do well. Listened to

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Speaker 2: KFI for the next three hours because in for Tim

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Speaker 2: Conway Junior, who's got monkey pox and or avian bird flow,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Kelvin Washington and Joe Kwan.

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Speaker 3: What do you got coming up today?

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Speaker 7: Not exotic kit cats? Yeah, I mean I've actually had.

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Speaker 3: Some of those. I can't.

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Speaker 7: Someone who works with us Gil, you know, he came

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Speaker 7: back from Japan with a bunch of different type.

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Speaker 2: My daughter in law brought brought over a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: But I'm the guy that you know, Uh pepper is

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Speaker 2: too much, I mean regular black pepper. Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 2: look at me tradition, look at me, traditional, look at me.

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Speaker 2: I'm translucent. I make Anderson Cooper look like a person

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Speaker 2: of color.

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Speaker 7: I'll get you a little season, and we'll get you

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Speaker 7: some season and we'll make it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what were mobile food pantry lakers in town?

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Speaker 7: I see there's like seven military helicopters that are hovering

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Speaker 7: around burbank areas. So I don't know he's around.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this, but I have

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Speaker 2: a solution to this traffic time with these guys, and

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Speaker 2: it's been right in front of our eyes for years.

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Speaker 2: At LAX, they got the theme restaurant that flying saucer.

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Speaker 3: It's empty.

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Speaker 2: We make that the mandatory designated politician fundraiser. Event location

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Speaker 2: like it. They get off the airplane, they go to

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Speaker 2: the take a shuttle van right there. Everybody comes in,

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Speaker 2: throws money at them, and they go right back to

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Speaker 2: Air Force one.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's there.

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Speaker 6: And if they ever get their stuff together with the

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Speaker 6: people mover, then there won't be any.

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Speaker 3: Traffic, no traffic at all.

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Speaker 2: Did Steven Spielberg and George Cloney wants they just take

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Speaker 2: the people people move it right in there, hand them

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Speaker 2: some And this is bipartisan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna Usually somebody has an idea.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna go you're laughing. Oh, that's terrible. That's actually

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Speaker 7: a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You know. Some people get it to talk radio to

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Speaker 2: create problems. Yeah, I got into its soft problems.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And and there's much less of you. There's much less

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Speaker 7: of you. The problem is they want to hear. They

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Speaker 7: gotta do their thing. They gotta go to Roscoe's chicken

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Speaker 7: while they got to do the whole.

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Speaker 3: You know, the whole circuit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you kissed the babies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't blame them for going to Roscoe's Chickens.

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Speaker 2: Although you go to pans On Losienica, that's pretty love

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Speaker 2: pants you.

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Speaker 7: Just went up with me. You just you were here.

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Speaker 7: You just went up here.

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Speaker 2: You know diners by the way, that's not bad either,

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Speaker 2: but but Pans is my favorite.

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Speaker 7: Pans get the catfish next time. You'll thank me later,

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Speaker 7: but you gotta get.

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Speaker 3: It from I'm already would just see my eyes bolts

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Speaker 3: because the idea.

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Speaker 7: You gotta get the catfish.

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Speaker 2: Folks, if you don't know what we're talking about, Pans

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Speaker 2: on Lost. He has been there for like fifty five years.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic diner. I mean it's it's it's one of those

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Speaker 2: Googy architecture.

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Speaker 7: Literally just passed it on my way here today. I

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Speaker 7: had to take uh problem.

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Speaker 2: I actually I get off Lost again and work around

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Speaker 2: it because I can't pass it. Oh god, I just

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Speaker 2: go in and I start ordering chicken and waffles and

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Speaker 2: the milkshakes they have like.

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Speaker 7: Any is really good, so good I almost left. I

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Speaker 7: actually left mine vis a line in the trash there. Wow,

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Speaker 7: that's a long story.

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Speaker 2: So we got Lakers, we got we got possibly Otani.

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Speaker 2: That could break while you're on the air, because we're

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Speaker 2: hearing said Otani may declare. I know this isn't a

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Speaker 2: sports station, but these stories are beyond sports like Taylor's

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Speaker 2: story though it is very much so. Either he's coming

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Speaker 2: or going one way or another from Orange County. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's coming up in for Conway, who hopefully will be

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Speaker 2: back on Monday, and I will be back on Monday

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Speaker 2: as well for what will in really technically be the

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Speaker 2: final John and Ken Show, because on Tuesday KFI rolls

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Speaker 2: out the red carpet for the John Cobbolt Show. An

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Speaker 2: a thank ca Sharon Belli oh ed, thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: and Deborah Mark as well.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show.

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Speaker 6: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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Speaker 6: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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