1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 3: Everybody's the j n V. Jesse Larry Charlamage the guy. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave, so 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: Laurla Ross is filling in and we got a special 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: guest in the building. We have Michael Harry O. Harris, 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 3: co founder of death Row Records. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, brother, Good morning black man. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: How you feeling I'm good, I'm good. You feeling good? 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: We got we got to start. 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: The story is from the beginning, sir, death Row Records. 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: You started as the co founder for death Row. 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Right. We're gonna break that down. 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: Please break that down to who are all the co founders? 15 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: I mean my mind is you sugar, and I don't know. 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Who doctor doctor. Yeah. 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 5: So, so originally we created a company called Godfather Entertainment, 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 5: which was the parent covey of Defro Records, and should 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 5: was I believe the president of Godfather and doctor Dre 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 5: was the president of Defau Records. And so we set 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: it up like that because Godfather was going to do 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 5: other entertainment assetts like films and concerts. 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: But def Ro took off and. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: Then everything was different. 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: Focus. 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: How did you get into the entertainment world. We always 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: hear the story that you know, Sugar was playing football 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: and from the neighborhood see what was going on with 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: music and decided he wanted to get into it. So 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: how did y'all get into music? What made y'all say 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: I want to get into the music? 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: So how did I get it entertainment? Yes? Or how 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: did we start doing both? Okay? 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 5: Actually before I went away, you know, I did thirty 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: three years before I went away, I used to be 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: involved in club promotion. I used to do plays, national plays, 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: and I got to do a Broadway play before I 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: went away. One of those plays actually included as Washington 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: on Broadway, So when that aired on Broadway, I kind 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 5: of took an exit. And so, but I was in 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: the music business. I had limousine services. Was I was 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: in an entertainment circle. So I met a lot of 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 5: people from that. From my first business. I was twenty 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: one years old when I started. It was a limousine 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: service that that allowed me to make meet with different 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: people in the sports fields, the entertainment world, political world. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 5: So I got to meet a lot of people at 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: the early age. 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: I want to go back to something you said, so 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: you said sug was Godfather, Gray was death Row. 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: Let me back up. Sure was the CEO of Godfather. 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: That was my company, and Shured was also the CEO of. 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Death rowt you doctor J was the president? 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Got you right? And where'd you come in at? I 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: just was decided I was behind. 56 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: He was the money man. 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: It wasn't just the money man. I helped structure it. 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: But you know, in my situation, I wanted to play 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 5: the back. I kind of wanted to just have a 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: phantom present because I just got a life sentence and 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 5: I got a twenty year sentence from affairs, and I 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: didn't want that to become the focus I wanted. I 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: wanted to be about the business that we had created. 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Did they did they take care of you when you 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: was away? 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know how business is. 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: I mean everything was good, I mean, you know, everything 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: was organized, but as things got bigger, it got crazy. 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 6: Yeah. 70 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you come home in any money? Is what 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: I'm asking I guess. Yeah, you wonder how much I got? 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: At one point he made three hundred million dollars in 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: a year. 74 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I came home to what I was supposed to 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: come home to. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Okay, how did you meet Sugar, and how did you 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: meet Doctor dre Well. 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 5: At the time that I met Should, he was managing 79 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 5: Doctor dre and DLC and UH. They had just came 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: out of a situation with n w A and a 81 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: friend of mine is Ryan Brown, used to play football 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: for the Rams. Uh also was connected to Should through 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: the football world, and Ron and I grew up together 84 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: him and his cousin Eric, and so they introduced me 85 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: to Should because he was trying to make some things 86 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: happen and it needs some back in and they introduced 87 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 5: me to him. I had my attorney, David Kennell, bring 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: him in and we sit down and talked about how 89 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 5: we can make this a business. At the time, he 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 5: was just managing and he was working out of Solar 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: Studios with Dick Griffy, and Dick Griffy was kind of 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: mentoring me. But I don't think at the time Rest 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: in peace, Dick Griffy, he didn't really understand what the 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 5: emerges of hip hop meant and so he kind of 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: fell asleep at the wheel. He was more focused. He 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: come from the R and B SE world. He was 97 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 5: our version of the West Coast motile and so you know, 98 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 5: Charlamar Atlantic Star whispers, you know, babyface. 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Everybody came through him. 100 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: So he was adviseding and should on how to manage 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 5: and do things like that, but he wasn't really pushing 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: for him financially to set up the company. 103 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: That's where I. 104 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Came in at what you had in life. But you 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: did thirty three and didn't Trump commute your sentence? 106 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, he community the federal sentence. The state says I 107 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: did twenty three on and actually was found actually innocent 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 5: of that case. But I did the time and was 109 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: released through the board. They didn't have a mechanism in 110 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: there for actually innocent, but they let me go after 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: twenty three years. 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: How did you even know about your situation? How did 113 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: like like who put them onto it? 114 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, first of all, he got backed up for 115 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: see the content see this in full context. So when 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: Obama was in office, I put in a request. I 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: was transferred to the federal system in twenty twelve, and 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: so at the end of his term, I put in 119 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 5: a request for relief for clemency. 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Didn't hear nothing back. And when. 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 5: The second term, I put in a request basically land 122 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: on all the work that I had done while I 123 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: was incarcerated. You know, I had helped create a lot 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 5: of financial literacy courses, you know, self help classes while 125 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: I was in the state prison. So the second time, 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 5: my mother was dying, and so I put in a 127 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: compassion release. 128 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Didn't hear anything about it. 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 5: So I had already created a record for requests. And 130 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: so when Donald Trump, when the President was leaving, I 131 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: put in a requested him, and Alice Johnson was working 132 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: with him, and she got wind of my petition and 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: read it and says, this man had done too much 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: time based on the second circumstances, and she took it 135 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: to Ivanka Trump and jaredt and they took it and 136 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: lobbied it to the president, and after four attempts, people 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: kept trying to push it down. This is what I 138 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 5: heard later. He just went through it and says, I 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: gotta let him go. This guy did too much time here, 140 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 5: you know, did the work. Don't make sense why I 141 00:06:59,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: am in prison. 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 7: Alice Johnson is the woman that he also helped to 143 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 7: get free to with Kim Kardashian being involved, right right. 144 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: I think one of the first releases. 145 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 7: That is what he did for you, is that the 146 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: biggest part or the only reason why you decide to 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 7: back him, or are there are other reasons why you 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 7: also decide to back him too. 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: Well, look, look, let me just keep it real. I 150 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: appreciated what he did for me. I always got to 151 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: be lawed to that. But at the same time, I'm 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: really about my community. And so even though he had 153 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: done that for me, I still did my research in 154 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: terms of how I was going to approach community first, 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: and community first needed to be. 156 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: Approached with all options. 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: So when I put out the challenge for the old 158 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: plan and the community first, I put it out to 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 5: both candidates and then he tapped in. So in my 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: due diligence, you have to look at the things that 161 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 5: has been done before in terms of and so you 162 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: can figure out. 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: What's real moving forward. 164 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: So what he had done, because like I said, I'll 165 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: just go by what somebody say, I go by what 166 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: it is. 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: I know they did. 168 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: He had put in for permanent it was a bipartisan 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 5: bill for HBCU permanent funding. I know he did that 170 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: for the community. I think it was authored by Corey 171 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: Booker Tim Scott, but he signed it in the law. 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Also, I know that he did a sickle cell. 173 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: Anemia initiative where he funded it a bipartisan bill to 174 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 5: make sure that we get get to a cure for 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: a disease that is mainly strike stricten old black people 176 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: in some Hispanics and also lets HBU. 177 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: The HBCU thing is true. 178 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: But Biden and Harris they did give a record seventeen 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: billion dollars the historically black colleges and university So they did. 180 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trugted. 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: Trump did sign the HBCU bill and the law before 182 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: they get twenty fifty million dollars annually, but Biden Harris 183 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: seventeen billion dollars. 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: That's a record but afterwards, So I don't think we 185 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 5: have a disagreement here. I think what he did was 186 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: he made it permanent before people have to still you know, 187 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 5: bid for it, you know, go in and just about 188 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 5: reasons to get the funding. And so he made it permanent. 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 5: And so I believe the seventeen billion initiatives you're talking 190 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: about came not too long ago where they actually enhanced 191 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 5: something that became permanent. 192 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: So I think I'm not I'm not sure of it. 193 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I I don't know how it all worked. 194 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was bipartisan, so from both sides did 195 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: the right thing. 196 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, everything is always by part of it, which is 197 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: the conversation. You don't like you can't do it without 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: Democrats and republic right. 199 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: And I think I think that's I think that hopefully 200 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: that's what this conversation will be about today about you know, 201 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: we have to be on both sides of ours to 202 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: get something done. If this team win, and who's over 203 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: there to represent us? If that team wins, who's over 204 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: there representas and what is the policies? And so outside 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: of that, she asked me a question about was that 206 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 5: the only reason? I think. Another reason that that hit 207 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: home for me was opportunity zones. That was also about 208 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 5: a partisan bill that was also signed the law by 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: Donald Trump that I think generated over five hundred billion dollars, 210 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: but as today, one hundred billion has been deployed, so 211 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: it's about four hundred billion left and I think four 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 5: hundred about four three hundred communities has benefited from those 213 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: opportunity zones. And I don't know if you you've covered 214 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 5: that or not, but what it does is it allows 215 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 5: wealthy people, private investors to get taxing centerves to invest 216 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: in overlook communities. 217 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: You know, we got all these communities where. 218 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 5: People go in and you got cheaper housing, but you 219 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: don't have no malls, you don't have no shopping centers, 220 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: you don't have other type of businesses that help support 221 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 5: those communities. And so one of the things I wanted 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 5: to do with the old plan was doubled down on 223 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 5: that opportunity zone so that we could, uh, we can 224 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 5: get we can, we can rich. People can stay rich 225 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: and do what they do, but how can we utilize 226 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 5: their money to help elevate our communities without begging? You understand, 227 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: like like this is a deal about business, always been 228 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: about business. How can we turn this into a business 229 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 5: situation instead of just emotional you know, I go for 230 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 5: this person, I go for this person, and and and 231 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: chase down the facts. And then also one of the 232 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: last things, uh that I'm partially through this first step 233 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 5: at because it's not just about me getting out. There's 234 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 5: thousands of people got a prison that was over incarcerated 235 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: and was able to be reunited with their families. And 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: that was important to me, you know, to to not 237 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: be out here having a cool life back in business 238 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: and forget about the people who still walk in that 239 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 5: track every day, and it may have got a weak 240 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 5: case that got them thirty years or some drug cases 241 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 5: that might have got them thirty or forty or life sentence. 242 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: And the First Step Act was also a bipartisan bill. 243 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: So when I keep saying that, it's about who can 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: we rely on the work walk, walk across the aisle 245 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: and get something done. And so that's that's kind. 246 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: Of like the reason why and who's willing to do 247 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: things for us? 248 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: Don't forget about that part because when look, I'm nobody, 249 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 5: I'm just a guy. I'm not a politician, but I'm 250 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 5: a guy who's been watching a lot of smoke and 251 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: mirrorage jump off and people talk and talking down to 252 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: each other, opposed to watching people every day have to 253 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: deal with how they gonna pay their bills when things 254 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: done doubled up and tripled up, and how they gonna 255 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 5: how they gonna make a living. 256 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: You know, real people, I got family. Everybody ain't rich, 257 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we all doing what we're doing, 258 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: and so, uh, you. 259 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: Know, I was blessed to be an opportunity to have 260 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 5: connection to something that put me in a level But 261 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: why not use that platform to speak to the truth. 262 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 263 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: So I don't care if it's her, it's him, whoever's 264 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: going to represent us, we should represent them, and we 265 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: need to get get our hands dirty. We need to 266 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 5: get involved, we need to agree. Yeah, so I appreciate this. 267 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: So, you know, with so much going on in your 268 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: life that people don't know, why did you feel like 269 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: you had to jump in politics or you had to 270 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: spit with you you know, the truth of politics? 271 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: Why that? 272 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: Because your story is amazing and you're kind of like 273 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: the for most the secret source in death Row? Right 274 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: what people might not know? You know, they don't know 275 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: that you were behind a lot of people don't know 276 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: that you were behind death Row when you were part 277 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: of that situation. Why jump into politics? 278 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Good question? 279 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: But you know even when I came home, when I 280 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: first came home, you know, different people and from my 281 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: neighborhood has called on me, and I went to the 282 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 5: community and I. 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Spent time with the kids. You know, I know that. 284 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: Let me back up for thirty people say thirty two 285 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: years you said quick, sound quick, but to do it? 286 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: Trust me? 287 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 5: Trust me if you broke it down in the seconds, minutes, 288 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 5: and hours, even astronomical and you have a lot of 289 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: time to think. 290 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: And so. 291 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know that even when I 292 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: first started Death Row, I was on death Rod for 293 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 5: a period. Even though I wasn't sentenced to death row 294 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: in sat Quinn, I spent time there. And when I 295 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: spent time there, I was able to be around some 296 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: people that was actually younger than me. I went to 297 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: prison when I was twenty six years old. So you 298 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 5: have people on death Road that was and they were 299 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 5: still killing people, and so I go to the yard, 300 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: but I'm separated from them because I'm not a part 301 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: of death Row. I'm just on death Row and I'm 302 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: talking to these guys that come from neighborhoods like mines 303 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: and these dudes's like twenty four years old and twenty 304 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: three years old. So that's part of my psychic When 305 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: it was time to create death Row. That and a 306 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 5: lot of people go back and forth about the name. 307 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: Who came up with the name night Sure then was 308 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: playing with d E F like death ro and I 309 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 5: and I said it's gonna call it death Row Records 310 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: because I just thought as a cautionary tale, it was 311 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: a great opportunity to tell young people that grew up 312 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: where I come from, the death road waiting for them. 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: And I just don't think a lot of people understood 314 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: that or know that. Like just to sit here and 315 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: hear people walking down the hall and never come back, 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 5: and to see that as a youngster, it has an 317 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: impact on you. You cannot you cannot not remember it. 318 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: They glorified now it's so weird to me, like they 319 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: be posting from Instagram like they just having a ball 320 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: in prison, Like yeah, but. 321 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 5: You know, like like any show is reality and his hype. 322 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: When they get off that mic, they gotta walk their track. 323 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: They gotta eat that same meal. They gotta you know, 324 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: some of them got tears in the pillow. They may 325 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: not never tell you that they buffed that eye, and 326 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: they do what they do. But trust me, I ain't 327 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: met nobody that ever loved being in prison. And so 328 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 5: but but you to your point, people come out, you know, 329 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: unde x amount of times's supposed to feel like they're 330 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: supposed to get a certain type of reputation. I think 331 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: that's a false reputation of the pain that you go 332 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 5: through when you're in prison, that's right. 333 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: So what did you think about what you're creating? Death 334 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: Row and the reason you created death Row from what 335 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: you're seeing. And then some of the death row artists 336 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: were you know, it was violent. You know what I mean. 337 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: Snoop was was was on death row one time. He 338 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: was you know, possibly convicted of of of of murder. 339 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: He was trying to try, Yeah, tried for murder. But 340 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: a lot of the death row artists were so violent 341 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: that could have put him in places where death row was. 342 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: So did you ever think like that's not this why 343 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: this was created, or did you think this is just music? 344 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: This is just it goes back, It goes back to 345 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: what Shannaman just said, Like you see a projection of 346 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: some people wearing things from prison. I just think that 347 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: death Row guy out of hand. Like a part of 348 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: the narrative in the beginning was Teller Street start right, good, 349 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: bad and difference. 350 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: That's what it was about. 351 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 5: But when you go out and the public and things 352 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: start to happen, to get in commotion, shoot, and then 353 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: you start getting hype behind it and getting news articles 354 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 5: behind it, like the thing that happened in New Orleans 355 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: that change Should's mind kind of like it made him 356 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: start feeling like we need more of that. You understand, 357 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: but to sell records and so, and I think he 358 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 5: got caught up in that. 359 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 360 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: I'm not just saying him, I'm just saying the whole culture. 361 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: Because you know, from an economic standpoint, First of all, 362 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 5: the East Coast created hip hop. Let's put that out there, right, 363 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: But from an economic standpoint, the machine that the West 364 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 5: Coast win. And what I mean by that we went, 365 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: we won and we lost. So what I mean by 366 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 5: that is that because of the nature of the subject 367 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: matter that we was talking about, we was able to 368 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: do to do big business. So he was independent what 369 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: he was able to move into the majors because of 370 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: our first album, The Chronic. However, the subject matter changed 371 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 5: from what original hip hop was about, you know, having 372 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 5: parties kicking it, talking about our king and queens, and 373 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: that that wasn't getting supported by the machine. But when 374 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: we start killing each other talking about you know, so 375 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 5: even though he was telling cautionary tales, people got confused 376 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 5: about what's real and what's not. And I just watched 377 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: it become pervasive. You know, even in prison, you know, 378 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: guys seeing their hood hollowed out. You know, it was 379 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 5: a sense of pride. I mean, it kind of got 380 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: a little off track from what it was really supposed 381 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 5: to be. And once you started making first album, your 382 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 5: first year, I mean, we made fifty million dollars. 383 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: You know. 384 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 5: Actually, Interscope was about to close its doors with his 385 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 5: investment with death Row saved its company. So a lot 386 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: of people don't talk about it in reverse. They always 387 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 5: talk about Interscope make death Row. They don't talk about 388 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: what death Row did the Interscope and what it did 389 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: the Universal and the fact that Warner Brothers almost went 390 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: out of business because they got out of hip hop business, 391 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 5: they got out of death Row business. I mean, it's 392 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 5: a whole lot to be talked about if. 393 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 4: You were right, because even if you think about in 394 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: the scope, they might have got out of the business 395 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 4: to death Rode, but they damn sure stayed in business 396 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: with doctor Dre and made sure Dre came over there 397 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: and something. 398 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: So you know, it's all connected, But where is it? 399 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Where is it? 400 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: Where did it come from? It came from that that 401 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 5: thing in me and others. I didn't do that for 402 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 5: by myself to want to make an impression like like 403 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: to not allow my incarceration to be the end of 404 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 5: me and so I invested, you know, some of my 405 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 5: some of my money, but I could invest it in 406 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: something else. So I invested in that organization to become 407 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 5: a reality. 408 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: If you were home, you think it would have been 409 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: ran the same way, or you think since you were 410 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: inside and you've seen so much, you would have tried 411 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: to calm it down as much as possible. 412 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just look, man, You know you don't You 413 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: don't go through what I went through. You don't see 414 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: people get stabbed and killed every day, and that's something 415 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 5: you look forward to, you know what I mean. I mean, 416 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 5: I'm not just saying that. I'm just telling you I 417 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: don't know. Some days. When I first came to prison, 418 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 5: it wasn't about all those programs I'm telling you ILL 419 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: helped create later. It's about am I gonna be alive tomorrow? 420 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 5: You mean, because you know it's so much hate up 421 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: in these penitentis. When you're up in them type of 422 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 5: penitential you can cut it with a knife, that's how 423 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: much hate you feel. And to be able to communicate 424 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 5: and deal and then try to create a company with 425 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 5: all that going on, it wasn't no easy walk. But 426 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: you know, I'm a man of God bruh. And then 427 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: that's what kept me alive and pushing and trying to 428 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 5: stay revenant in a situation where they had me in 429 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 5: a control environment. So you know, yeah, I think it 430 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 5: would have been different, but I don't live in the ifs, 431 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because, like I said, that 432 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: was my intention, and you know how intentions go. But 433 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: it became what it became. And now it's on a 434 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: new trajectory. You know, it's a new management if you will, 435 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So there's an opportunity for 436 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 5: a different death Road history. 437 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Are you part of the Death Row that Snoop has now? 438 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: Are you part? Yeah? We're partner, Okay, okay, okay, Yeah. Yeah, 439 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: he's the CEO and I'm the co that dope. 440 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we also just created death Ro Pictures, so 441 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: we feel to try to do for death Ro Pictures 442 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 5: what we did with Death Row Records in terms of 443 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: imagery and trying to like deflect some of the stuff 444 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: that we were known for. 445 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: The Tyrene movie was part of that, right, Yeah, it was. 446 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: It was it was. 447 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: Used to speak to ship. 448 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: They spoke to him in a while. Yeah, we kind 449 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: of went a whole separate ways. 450 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 4: But but but nineteen ninety two and then y'all got 451 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: an y'all the Snoop bio pick is coming. 452 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Snoop Bio Pick. I'm doing my biopic. Uh. 453 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: We've been talking with Danzel about producing it and Antoine 454 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 5: for Choir about directing it. And like I said, again, 455 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: here's another opportunity to tell the story. Uh, but keeping 456 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 5: it real, you know what I'm saying more like a 457 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 5: serious probably because it's so mustant the cover. 458 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: What's our what's our community first? You got that's an initiative. 459 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 3: You got community First, the community. 460 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 5: But I don't know if you guys with award you 461 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: got all you got? You got too much going on here. 462 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: I need to get one of them hats. 463 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 5: Community First is an initiative that we created to speak 465 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: to really to elevate the voices of the black community 466 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: doing this vot voting cycle. But even beyond that, it's like, 467 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: you know about assets, like how can we have access 468 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 5: to capital? How can how can we how can we 469 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: have munyful jobs at uh second chance hiring when people 470 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: come home. So we got the access agenda and we 471 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: got the redemption agenda. 472 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: So the access is about what we can do in. 473 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: The community in terms of like I said, even when 474 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: I was talking earlier about opportunity zones and talking about 475 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 5: better schools like a second, you know, like in terms 476 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: of school choice, what can we do to make sure 477 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 5: that our schools in our community is top notch and 478 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 5: not controlled by unions where people just you know, if 479 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: people are not effective, they still keep their job. Our 480 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: children deserve more than that, and so very what I 481 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: know what school did to me, you know, in terms 482 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: of me almost dropping out, in terms of not hearing 483 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: the information I need to hear. 484 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: That speaks to my spirit. 485 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people call us dropouts 486 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: from a community, but don't understand that there's a reason 487 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: why things happen. If somebody's telling you information that's inconsistent 488 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 5: with the truth that you know and you're supposed to 489 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: digest it. I'm not saying people should drop out, That's 490 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 5: not what I'm saying. I said, but that's the reason 491 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: a lot of people drop out, because they can identify 492 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: with the information that's been served to them. So we 493 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: need better schools rather, you know, people need to have 494 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: opportunity to go to better schools in their community. 495 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: Outside the community. 496 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 5: And we also need to have you know, pale grants 497 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 5: that deal with Bouquet shouldn't have a training. Some people don't 498 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 5: want to go to college and so and we know 499 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: with these training, with these new training systems, programs in 500 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: terms of technology, people can go there a couple of years, 501 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: six months and make half a million dollars a year, 502 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: you know. So these are the things that we're concerned with. 503 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 5: And people that's in prison, who is a captive audience 504 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: need to have the skill set when they come home. 505 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 5: They need to be trained, They need to be giving programs. 506 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: I mean, if you do a crime, you're doing your time. 507 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 5: Why shouldn't that be taking advantage of and giving people 508 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: the opportunity to come home with skill set. Like when 509 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 5: I was in San Quentin, we created a company called 510 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: organizations called List Last Mile that trained people how to 511 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: code so that when they came home they had meaningful 512 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 5: employment and they out there doing big days and created 513 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: all kinds of organizations from that. 514 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: So that's a model of what we could do. 515 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 5: But I also believe it, why should we wait till 516 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: people go to prison that's helped them before and help. 517 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: Them when they get out. 518 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 7: They might keep them out of prison. They worth they 519 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 7: feel the work, they have to feel it. 520 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: Yes, and what's the op playing challenge? 521 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: But the old playing challenge was basically laying out what 522 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 5: this agenda is. That I was looking for somebody to 523 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: commit to what we're trying to do. 524 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: And and so I think a lot. 525 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: Of people thought, Okay, well Trump pardoned him, so he's 526 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 5: gonna back for Trump. Look, if it was just about that, 527 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 5: I could have just did that day one. But when 528 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 5: you involve the community, you have to make sure that 529 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: the community have options. 530 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: So that's why I. 531 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: Made the challenge to come out as well as Donald Trump. 532 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 5: And still I haven't heard nothing from her camp, but 533 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 5: I heard something from his camp. And like I'm here, 534 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: I'm not here in disrespect the black woman an elevated 535 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 5: white man, because I'm not a politician. My job is 536 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 5: to give my community information so they can make the 537 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: best choices, because that's what I think. 538 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 2: Destroys a lot of our lives. 539 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: It's not having the wisdom of the information to make 540 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: those decisions. 541 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: You know. 542 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: And when I say, and you ask me, why would 543 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: I get in this when I sit in there for 544 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 5: all those years and I could watch you know, people 545 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 5: think that when you're in prison, you're dead, but you're 546 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 5: just like a grave that's covered up. But you could 547 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 5: with a glass ceiling you can see the world. And 548 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 5: you're saying, why is this not happening? If I was out, 549 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: what would I do? And I know a lot of 550 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: people that's pretty wealthy, that makes a lot of you know, 551 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: they can make a lot of things happen and don't 552 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: because they get put in boxes. And I don't judge that, 553 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: you know. I think it's too easy to judge, you know, 554 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: but it's hard to think, you know. So I'm just saying, 555 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 5: instead of judging other people while they don't do, what 556 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 5: can I do? So I use my platform the opportunities 557 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 5: I have to speak to my community. So we did 558 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: some concerts in Pittsburgh, we did some Conder, we did 559 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: some concerts in Philadelphia, Atlanta, and we did some concerts 560 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: in Detroit. And we spend time on the ground and 561 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: talk to people. And I went to this, uh, this 562 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: one Paul Paul Kids as an organization what this lady 563 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 5: has in Atlanta and Kathy. 564 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: And she and she she's. 565 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 5: The mother for children whom mothers are on drugs and 566 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 5: fathers are in prison on drugs and they come there 567 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 5: to eat every day. And seeing these kids reminded me 568 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: of me. 569 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 6: And what can happen if people don't pay attention. So 570 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: that's what I'm about. Yeah, that's what I'm about. That's 571 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 6: what I focus on. Not seeing people do a day 572 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 6: like I did, and they're gonna take people supporting their 573 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 6: community to make that happen. 574 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: That's what I'm on. You know, It's amazing. 575 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: It's like you based off your information and your experiences, 576 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: you support, you support based. 577 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: Off buying from MEAs my experiences. 578 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: I supported, I support, But that's not gonna ever stop 579 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: me from helping another black man help his community. 580 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm ultimately on. At the end 581 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: of the day. 582 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: I love that bro, because that's what I'm saying. We 583 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 5: got enough division, you understand. Just like even on a 584 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 5: small level, we was at we was in Detroit, Pontiac actually, 585 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 5: but you know, outside of Detroit, and it came to 586 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 5: my attention that Trick Trick and Rick Ross had had 587 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 5: this issue ongoing issue and they both was on the bill. 588 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: Hey this is I forgot. 589 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: I forgot you made made peace. 590 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 5: Look they had it in him, bro, and it was easy, 591 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 5: you know, because we're brothers. Why not Saturday example, and 592 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: they did. It was big and people felt it, you 593 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So that's what community first is about, 594 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: merging communities, not. 595 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Not who did you call first? Who'd you called? 596 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: Uh jeeries out know. It was like, that's a good point. 597 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 5: It was Trick Trick City, and so one of the 598 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 5: things I wanted to do is be respectful when we 599 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: come up into different communities. And I just know how 600 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: that is and how important it is. So it was 601 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: Trick Trick City. So we brought him on and then 602 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: I talked to Rick about coming onto the show, and 603 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 5: he was cool, and then we had to talk. You 604 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He said, you know, you know 605 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 5: how you talk. That's an easy big dog. It was 606 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: just that, he said, that's easy because and then for 607 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: them to meet halfway coming up to the stairs and race. 608 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: Before they came out to the stage, it's powerful. 609 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: And so you know, we had we had some first 610 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: like it was uh State property. It was in our 611 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 5: first concert and they that was the first time in 612 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: twenty years they had all collectively UH stays together, you know. 613 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: And then we had in Atlanta. We had t I 614 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: two and all those guys and uh, I think this 615 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: is one of Tu's last concerts. And just to see 616 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: all the homegrown talent on the stage together, it's powerful. 617 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 5: So we want to keep doing stuff like that. We 618 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 5: want to keep having to do townholls. We want to 619 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: talk to republics and democrats together. We want to talk 620 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 5: about real issues, and we want to talk to anybody 621 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: that supports us. 622 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: Can you put Kendrick and Drake stage to give or 623 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: let them hung it out? 624 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: I got another question next mission. 625 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: That's the next mission, that one. 626 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on it man. Anytime we can, like anytime 627 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: we can kill it. 628 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Perfectly that. 629 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 7: I don't know about love. I would like to see it, 630 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 7: like if that could happen. Why not, because it's just 631 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 7: something to watch. 632 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: I disagree with he just said, you don't like I've 633 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 5: been watching you. I've been watching all from behind the balls, 634 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: behind the walls. 635 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 7: What they say about the insigne they think they people 636 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 7: ask me what they really got? 637 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: I think they think they're gainst us. Yeah, that's what 638 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: he said. 639 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: Can you see a gun on the Trust me be 640 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: honest with you. You guys are liked for people that's incarcerated. 641 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: I think I think people don't realize what kind of 642 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: a fact people incarcerated have on the family members that 643 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 5: really stay connected to them, because really people really want 644 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: their brothers, sisters, mamas and daddies and nephews to come home. 645 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: And so when you when you have a show like 646 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: you guys have and we're able to watch that in it, 647 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: you know, fast stay whatever, They're gonna watch you, and 648 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: they listen. 649 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: They hang on you, guys every word. 650 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: And so this is to be on your show and 651 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 5: to be able to talk a little bit about community 652 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 5: first and about the old plan. 653 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: And uh, I really appreciate y'all. 654 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: Man. 655 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: You don't know how much y'all affect people. 656 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 5: On a data base on a daily basis, because what 657 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 5: else you have in there besides reading? 658 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: Of course I did a lot of that. 659 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: But to be when they listen to you, you bring 660 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: them back into the world because you understand you are isolated. 661 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Outside of walking that track, you ain't going nowhere. 662 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: And when you know that in your mind and you 663 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 5: have to find something else, you have to find you, 664 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: you know, and I find God to God help me 665 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 5: walk through that and then be about purpose. You know 666 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I stay president, you know, at every 667 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 5: step of the way. So when I came home, I 668 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: was ready to go. I had to get ready. I 669 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: think people. I think when people don't do that, they 670 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: have to come home and get ready, and then there 671 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: it goes backwards instead of forwards. 672 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: You got to get ready when you had an opportunity. 673 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 5: To get ready, and we had this is I just 674 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: want to go back to this voting thing. I just 675 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: watched our vote becomes so powerful in the last few months, 676 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: and I just think people shouldn't know that that you 677 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: can't keep voting for people that don't represent your best interest. 678 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying everybody's gonna do. You don't agree 679 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 5: with everything everybody gonna do, because you're not gonna do that. 680 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: But we have to. We have to push for something 681 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: if we want something. 682 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: If we continue to sit back and vote like it's 683 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: like we're going to church and God gonna do something 684 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: special for you, you gotta do something special for yourself. 685 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: It's the same thing when you get when you're going 686 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: out and putting people in a position to represent you, 687 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: you gotta request. 688 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 5: Something to them so at least you have a measuring 689 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 5: stick that says, okay, I requested this from you. You 690 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 5: said you was gonna do it. Three years, four years 691 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: go by, nothing happened. I don't see you no more. 692 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: We need to be about the business. Just like you 693 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: watch everything you put digest into your body. You need 694 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 5: to watch you. You got to represent you. It could 695 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: be the death for you. And that's what I'm on 696 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 5: you know, Like I just I just hope my voice 697 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 5: is heard in a way and the way that I'm 698 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 5: sitting it out, I hope it's received that way. I 699 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 5: don't have no reason to come out here and put 700 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 5: on a show. My thing is about if you heard 701 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 5: something that changes your mind or open you up to something, 702 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 5: then I'm down my job. I can't direct you into 703 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 5: no direction. You just gotta see that this is about 704 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 5: us making a deal to change the trajectory our community. 705 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 5: That's what it is. And if you don't, if nobody 706 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 5: don't want to engage you, how you gonna make a deal. 707 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 5: The fact that whatever you feel about Donald Trump was 708 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: able with all this stuff going on. Tap back in 709 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 5: and says, hey, man, if I get back in the office, 710 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 5: I'm committed to work in community first, to make sure 711 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 5: that we help you do what you're trying to do 712 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: with the old plan. I left it out there, it 713 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 5: came back, it's still out there. So to answer your question, I. 714 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Think it's all about relationships too though, because I can. 715 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: I can. 716 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 4: I can say that about Vice Fresid and Kamalade talk 717 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 4: to me about that. 718 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: I can say that, like I got. 719 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: You know, one of my big initiatives is mental health advocacy, 720 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: you know, and I've seen her put two hundred and 721 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: eighty five million dollars into mental health programs that help 722 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 4: increase the number of mental health professionals in our communities. 723 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 4: I can talk about the American Rescue Plan, you know, 724 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 4: where she's put tens of millions of dollars into small, small, 725 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: small black businesses, you know, all through North Carolina, all 726 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: through Louisiana. So I mean, I just think it's all 727 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 4: about what you're tapped into and what your relationship is 728 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 4: with that individual. 729 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Like you, probably no more than most. 730 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know any of that what you said about, 731 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: you know, Trump with the community first thing, But that's 732 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: because that's been your relationship, that's been your experience, just 733 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 4: like my relationship. 734 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: My experience has been with the VP. So that's what 735 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: I support. 736 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, outside of me meeting with President Trump, when I 737 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 5: thanked him for you know, allowing me to reach back 738 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 5: out into my family. First, I'll always give it to 739 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 5: God first. But the fact that Trump did it, I 740 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 5: thanked him for it. But I haven't really I haven't 741 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: really develop relationship. But at the same time, you have, 742 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 5: so you know more about her. I mean, I'm from California, 743 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 5: so I know certain things about her as well, but 744 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 5: you know. 745 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: Not not in the way that you do. 746 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 5: Okay like that and uh and uh so when you're 747 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 5: in California State prison, so I got a different lens, 748 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 5: different view different viewful how things happen or could have happened. 749 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm not here to do that. I'm 750 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 5: just here to talk about policies that elevate the community. 751 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I mentioned was policy. 752 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 5: And I appreciate the dialogue in the way that we've 753 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 5: been civil and I feel we're supposed to know. 754 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 4: I think it's the most ridiculous thing in the world 755 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: for people to be at odds with each other and 756 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 4: like people be talking. 757 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Crazy at each other over politicians. At the end of 758 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: the day, regardless of who wins. 759 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 4: Guess what, We're still black when our communities are gonna 760 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: still be what they are, and we're gonna have to 761 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: do what we gotta do the better community. 762 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 5: And that's about that. And I think we don't have 763 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: no arguments here, and that's beautiful. I wish the world 764 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 5: saw it like that. I see people you know, sit 765 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 5: next to you on planes and mentioned party and the 766 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 5: next thing you know, they got separated them. 767 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's is the plane going down? You know 768 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: what I mean? 769 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 5: Like, I'm serious, I don't seeing that. And it's like 770 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 5: it shouldn't be like that. Like one thing God gave 771 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 5: us is free will, choice and we should be able 772 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: to make that choice. And the best way to do that, 773 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: I believe is with information. And so even though like 774 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 5: he just broke down the information that he has, that 775 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: I break that information and I have. Well, once you 776 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 5: have that information, you can make a determination and no 777 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 5: one should tell you or shame you because you made 778 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 5: a determination separate from the way the other person feels. 779 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 5: I think that's disrespectful to human beings, but I think 780 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 5: it's more disrespectful to what God gave us. Don't take 781 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 5: my choice away from me. Don't tell me if I 782 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 5: don't vote for him her or this race or that 783 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 5: race that somehow I'm not who I am. And you 784 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: haven't even walked in my steps to speak to me 785 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: like that. So I'm just I'm just appreciative of the 786 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 5: conversation and the opportunity because people respect your platform. 787 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. I would dislike you more 788 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: if you're a Cowboys fan than anything else, like him, 789 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: like I just like a cowboy. I just the reason why. 790 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: But how can people follow what you're doing? 791 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: Before we wrap up? 792 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes? 793 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 7: You said earlier, I've been trying to ask this, so 794 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 7: we kind of moved away from it. So I'm going 795 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 7: back to it. And when he asked you about sugar, 796 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 7: you said, y'all want y'all separate ways. Is there any 797 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 7: way that will ever see that reconciliation because it seems 798 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 7: like there's definitely a lot of space and stuff in between. 799 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 7: Now with the defro Records conversation, will you guys ever 800 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 7: get back to a good space? Is that over and 801 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 7: done for you? 802 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 5: We got two minutes. I just say this, look this 803 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: should Knight that the world knew. It's a different should 804 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 5: Night that I originally right and I just think. I 805 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 5: just think that money and power does a lot of 806 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 5: different things. And even when we went through like you know, 807 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 5: I had to sue him about my bread and that's 808 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 5: how I ended up losing death row. 809 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: I tried to talk to him. 810 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 5: Then I'm saying, look, man, his opportunity familiar to resolve 811 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 5: was supposed to be right, you know, because I chose 812 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 5: are gonna see this one day and says, why you 813 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 5: guys didn't work this out? 814 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: I see, that's what we should be on. 815 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 5: But I can't keep trying to find a good in 816 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 5: somebody that don't want to find a good in themselves. 817 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 5: And so him being behind these walls, I don't Whishperrison 818 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 5: on my worst enemy. I know he's feeling and understanding 819 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 5: things that he may could not have understood when he 820 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 5: was out here on the streets. So I pray that 821 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 5: he'd get the wisdom that I got when I. 822 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: Was behind, when I was behind the walls, and I 823 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: worked on myself. 824 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 5: And I don't blame other people for anything I ever 825 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 5: went through, you know what I'm saying. So I can't 826 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 5: be out here talking about I'm about peace and about 827 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 5: community first, not be open, but people gotta stop living 828 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 5: in the past and try to figure out how to 829 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: move forward together. You know, I know, even Dog had 830 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 5: opened up our brands and things. Just it didn't work out, you. 831 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. 832 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 5: But we all stayed hopeful and open because we all 833 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 5: created something in the beginning that was you know, entrepreneurs. 834 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: It's powerful. 835 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 5: It was a voice for so many and it created 836 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 5: a lot of other companies. The other people was able 837 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 5: to benefit from what we created. Back in ninety one 838 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 5: ninety two. 839 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: I got one of the death ro questions, do you 840 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 3: remember the first time you heard Snoop? Did you know 841 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: he was a star right away? And do you remember 842 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: the first time hear in Tupaca? Do you know he 843 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 3: was a star right away? Did you know that was 844 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: gonna take it to the next level? Well your thoughts 845 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 3: the first time you. 846 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 5: Heard I watched I watched Tupac grow before he became 847 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 5: involved in death Row. But Snoop dogg my ex wife, 848 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 5: Lydia Harris, she was she was a part of the company. 849 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 5: Even though I was around ay the walls, I used 850 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 5: to communicate through the farm every day. And she told 851 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 5: me that because he had a little naturally and she 852 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 5: told me she says, he the one, you know, and 853 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: then and then because sure didn't think he was. He 854 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: didn't think he was starting, you know, because you know, 855 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: DC was supposed to be Snoop Dogg. 856 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: Correct, So he lost his voice, lost his voice, but. 857 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 5: He still gave what he had, Like he taught Snoop 858 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 5: Dogg things that changed Snoop. 859 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: Dogg as an artist. 860 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 5: You wrote a lot too, That's what I'm talking about, 861 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: but not just Snoop Dogg, but for doctor Dre, for 862 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 5: n w A. You know, he was the voice, to 863 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 5: be honest with you, out of Dallas. You know what 864 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: I mean, look at that economy. But what I'm saying 865 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 5: to you is that when I heard that voice, and 866 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 5: even when he was inside the wall, so I got 867 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 5: the music sent the At first, people was kind of 868 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 5: like didn't know what it was. But when he him 869 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 5: on that murders uh uh murder the cover the cover 870 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 5: one eight seven on the n the cover cop the 871 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 5: first time you heard that melodic voice, it changed West 872 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 5: Coast music. 873 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. 874 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 3: The DC get what he was supposed to get for 875 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: being the voice of death Row, not just dethro A. 876 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 5: Well, my brother, he got a he got a documentary 877 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: coming out, and I think he's gonna get his flowers 878 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: because you know, and I don't want to dip the tea, 879 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 5: but make sure I'm gonna make sure he come on 880 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 5: y'all show before he come out with it, because he's 881 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 5: gonna do something real revolutionary and that you know, that's 882 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 5: gonna shock people. 883 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: But you know the question of you know, I don't think. 884 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 5: Doc's got what he's supposed to get because Doc was 885 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 5: the heart of Death Row at n w A, and 886 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 5: I just think that, and he's out there trying to 887 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 5: do stuff in the community. Me and him as a 888 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 5: real close contact. I love Doc because he was there 889 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 5: doing them first days. It was him, Should and Dre 890 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 5: that was supposed to start a business first, and somehow 891 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 5: Doc got pushed out and I came in and then 892 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 5: I had my push and pull too. You know, it's 893 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 5: been a you know, it's a family, but it's been 894 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 5: a kind of crazy family. 895 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm back. 896 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 3: And you tell us the first time you heard Pop. 897 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: UH liked it him. 898 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: When I first heard him, Uh, I thought he was clever, smart, 899 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 5: But when he came with the Death Row version, I 900 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 5: just think him being away, him being frustrated. He came 901 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 5: with another sound. You know, so when I first heard 902 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 5: you know, dear Mama, I'm not dem mama. But Ben 903 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 5: just having a. 904 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 3: Baby, he was already something special. 905 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. 906 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 5: The jury is still out on how I feel about 907 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 5: some of that, some of what happened. But in terms 908 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 5: of him musically, he just went to a whole other 909 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 5: level and he just it just was pawing out of it. 910 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 5: Like he went to the studio. You know, I wasn't there, 911 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 5: but they would tell me that he went to the 912 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 5: studio and he just he couldn't be stopped. You know, 913 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: he was He was a perfectionist. He wanted that he 914 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 5: wanted to sound like he wanted to sound. He wants 915 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 5: you to feel that projection. So, yeah, he was a loss, 916 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 5: you know, mismanagement. Uh that costs uh one of our 917 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 5: treasure's life. As as relate to him and Vickie, you know, 918 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 5: thank God bless their soul. They was they were both 919 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 5: treasures to our community. 920 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, how can people get in touch with with 921 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 3: with you and see what you're doing with community first 922 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 3: and all that, and follow what you're doing and maybe 923 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: even help and support. 924 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: And that would be lovely man. All the support we 925 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 2: can get we want. 926 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 5: Uh So, it's Community First Action dot org or at 927 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: Community First Action, and that's how you can get in 928 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 5: contact with US supports. An official Harrio mhm. It's mine handle. 929 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 5: I'm just out there. 930 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: I ain't hard to find. That's right. 931 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, ladies 932 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 3: and gentlemen. Is Mike Harry Old Harrison. It's the Breakfast Club. 933 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 2: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The 934 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club 935 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: M hm.