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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul Dan one tidbit on the Thursday night Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame game, you know, starting for the Panthers at
Speaker 3: quarterback Marvin's favorite quarterback, Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, all right, small hands you night, Let's give
Speaker 2: you my hand here? Yay? Now I was given Kenny
Speaker 2: pit get a hand, not you, Marvin. Okay, Kenny Pickett, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: I just cannot believe. Kenny Pickett is the reason why
Speaker 4: people come up to me, put their hands up and
Speaker 4: want to measure. It just happened, just one random morning.
Speaker 4: Ray wanted to measure hands and I was like, come on,
Speaker 4: just do it.
Speaker 2: And it changed your life.
Speaker 4: It changed seems life, and it changed my life simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Because Kenny Pickett had hand size that was under nine
Speaker 2: and Ray big day. Ray goes, why don't we just
Speaker 2: measure everybody's hands in here? And I thought for sure
Speaker 2: everybody thought that Seatan was going to win. And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden and the and we did it live,
Speaker 2: so we didn't know the I didn't even know the
Speaker 2: end results. It's like the person with the smallest hands,
Speaker 2: Marvin and Seatan. I don't know if he's ever been
Speaker 2: that happy. I mean maybe with getting married and having
Speaker 2: you know, the birth of his son, but that's probably it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Paulie Dan.
Speaker 3: I just went back and looked at the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: two NFL combine, the scouting and Kenny Pickett during measurement
Speaker 3: day his hand size was eight and one half inches.
Speaker 3: Dan the only draftee under eight inches eight nine inches
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. And there was a revelation the
Speaker 3: next day on sports radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah it still is. I mean, imagine being Kenny Pickett. Marvin, Now,
Speaker 2: sure I don't play quarterback, You're right, yeah, But there
Speaker 2: was a little boy. We were in Arizona at the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and we did a meet and greed after
Speaker 2: the show. This little guy comes up and he puts
Speaker 2: his hand up and Marvin thinks he's giving him a
Speaker 2: high five. He goes, no, no, no, I want to
Speaker 2: see how my hand compares to yours. I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: but you're a good sport. I think I think that's
Speaker 2: when the audience realized that, you know, you were one
Speaker 2: of us, you were going to be a dan at,
Speaker 2: you were going to fit in nicely.
Speaker 4: Yes, mart I think that was the beauty about being
Speaker 4: a backroom guy. Before here you knew what the show
Speaker 4: was about. Off it is for you, the better it
Speaker 4: is for everybody Else's contest Dylan pull question. For the
Speaker 4: final hour of the program, we.
Speaker 5: Got another banger from Todd per usual, begging for autographs
Speaker 5: that training camp, stadium or arena is dot dot dot
Speaker 5: so much fun and part of the fan experience. Kind
Speaker 5: of lame unless you're a kid, I guess pathetic, especially
Speaker 5: when you say it's for your child or cool if
Speaker 5: you can get some good dough for it on eBay,
Speaker 5: But where's your certificate of authenticity?
Speaker 2: Decisions decisions? I think if you're a grown up, it's
Speaker 2: kind of weird. Or if you say you're getting it
Speaker 2: for your son or daughter and I've seen it before,
Speaker 2: and you know, the marketplace for memorabilia is going crazy,
Speaker 2: and these athletes know, hey, I'm going to sign that.
Speaker 2: It increases the value right away. I mean people send
Speaker 2: me stuff for me to sign. No, granted, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's worth anything because I've signed it, but
Speaker 2: you do sign it in you hope it comes from
Speaker 2: a good place that they do want something that they
Speaker 2: want to keep. Odds are they probably don't? Yes? Yes? Doing?
Speaker 5: Do you like the guy who's like waiting outside of
Speaker 5: a celebrities hotel or something and they come out He's like,
Speaker 5: can you sign this for my kidney as a stack
Speaker 5: of like fifty head shots?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and you'll and they know where everybody is.
Speaker 2: That that's the amazing part of it. This is big business.
Speaker 2: They know what a hotel you're going to be in. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know the players where they're going to be, and
Speaker 2: you know they're able to take advantage of that. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 2: I'm with Todd on this one.
Speaker 3: I saw some training camp stuff yesterday and there's like
Speaker 3: sixty or eighty fans there and there's an eleven year
Speaker 3: old going shoulders shoulder at a big sweaty fifty year old.
Speaker 3: There should be a pen that's you know, twelve and
Speaker 3: under that they sign autographs and the adults have to
Speaker 3: wait till they're done. I'm being serious. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just it was a battle. You see these little kids
Speaker 3: half their size.
Speaker 2: You're going to put them in a in a corral, Yes.
Speaker 3: A corral that yeah, pens, a corral.
Speaker 2: Now holding pens. You see what a college football shows
Speaker 2: common sense over convenience, and it doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and USC the rivalry returns in twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: I know that's a long way away, but I like
Speaker 2: that we are back to maybe scheduling some quality opponents
Speaker 2: outside of our conference schedule. So Notre Dame USC grew
Speaker 2: up with the rivalry, love the rivalry. And it's a
Speaker 2: subtle but important shift in scheduling philosophy because elite programs
Speaker 2: no longer have to fear scheduling another heavyweight. If the
Speaker 2: expanded playoffs gives us something, maybe that's what it's going
Speaker 2: to be. That you'll schedule the game in the first, second,
Speaker 2: or third week and it won't impact whether you make
Speaker 2: the playoffs or not. If I go to twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: Week one will be a Los Angeles Notre Dame USC,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty one Week one in South Bend, and then
Speaker 2: twenty thirty two and twenty thirty three. They don't have
Speaker 2: dates yet, but they will take place within the first
Speaker 2: three weeks of the regular season. I like it when
Speaker 2: Texas plays Ohio State. I like it now. Was it
Speaker 2: LSU and Oregon years ago? In Jerry's world, It's just
Speaker 2: it's great to start off the college football season. But
Speaker 2: it impacted you greatly if you lost that game. It
Speaker 2: felt like now, if you won that game, well you
Speaker 2: got a head start on everybody else. A couple of
Speaker 2: phone calls in here. Let's see Nate in La Hi, Nate,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me today? Morning?
Speaker 6: Dan?
Speaker 7: So, while you're in Maine, can we move your monitor
Speaker 7: in studio from underneath the cameras whenever it cuts the
Speaker 7: todd he's looking directly into the camera, which I tolerated
Speaker 7: until this morning, when he kept saying I like to
Speaker 7: watch other I'm sitting on the edge of my bed.
Speaker 8: We both legs about pants.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thank you, Nate.
Speaker 9: I could see where that would be awkward for him.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is Michael and Sarasota. Hi, Michael, Hey Dan,
Speaker 2: how you doing.
Speaker 10: I just want to say congrats to the dan Ads
Speaker 10: for holding it down. But just a couple of quick
Speaker 10: questions here. One is kind of a funny one, but
Speaker 10: my Cowboys, who do you think would have a bigger
Speaker 10: cultural impact winning if they won the Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 2: Them or the New York Knicks.
Speaker 10: And my second question is for the salary cap for MLB.
Speaker 10: If they were to implement this salary cap, what happens
Speaker 10: to the teams that.
Speaker 2: Are let's say over the salary cap already? Well, you
Speaker 2: know you pay a price of luxury tax with that.
Speaker 2: But I don't think there is a right or wrong
Speaker 2: answer here, Michael. I think it's one of those how's
Speaker 2: this going to feel? How are teams going to adapt?
Speaker 2: Dodger's still going to spend. But I applaud them for
Speaker 2: reinvesting in their team because a lot of owners don't
Speaker 2: do that. You know, I mentioned yesterday seventy percent of
Speaker 2: the owners they'll reinvest fifty percent. Okay, that's that's not
Speaker 2: good enough. If you're trying to win, and maybe you're
Speaker 2: not trying to win, maybe you want to be competitive.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what I'm missing, you know, keep this in
Speaker 2: mind with the Notre Dame in USC. Lincoln Riley I
Speaker 2: think was the one when he got to USC he
Speaker 2: didn't want to continue this. But it feels like this
Speaker 2: is the athletic department saying, no, we want to continue this.
Speaker 2: But and I don't know, is Lincoln Riley going to
Speaker 2: be at USC in twenty thirty when this rivalry resumes.
Speaker 2: But I think going into the Big Ten, we don't
Speaker 2: want to add, you know, or have Notre Dame their
Speaker 2: quality opponent. You know, we're going to be fighting for
Speaker 2: survival in the Big Ten. But it feels like this
Speaker 2: might be the athletic department saying this sounds like a
Speaker 2: good thing to revisit.
Speaker 3: Yes, paulin Lincoln Riley did respond to one of the
Speaker 3: local reporters, the UC head coach about it. He said,
Speaker 3: we're looking forward to playing this game early in the season,
Speaker 3: even though it's way down the road. He said, quote,
Speaker 3: we're part of a conference. We have a conference schedule
Speaker 3: to answer to. We don't make our own schedule.
Speaker 2: Unquote, ooh, a little shot there, A little shot. Ben
Speaker 2: in des Moone, Hi, Ben.
Speaker 6: Thanks for taking my call six three just to put
Speaker 6: a bow on the school trade of the Dodgers. How
Speaker 6: much of that you mentioned, you know, the Dodgers the
Speaker 6: exactly give.
Speaker 7: Up a Hall.
Speaker 6: How much of that is just due to the fact
Speaker 6: that the Tigers maybe felt some loyalty or wanted to
Speaker 6: let him go to his preferred destination. And then also,
Speaker 6: you know, in recent memory, I can't think of any
Speaker 6: blockbuster trades or a small market team made a deal
Speaker 6: that really them over the top to get to the
Speaker 6: World Series. You know, Ben over forty years for the Brewers. Now,
Speaker 6: as a Burs fan, I'm good. Let's just roll with
Speaker 6: the guys we got and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Thanks well, the Tigers traded Verlander to the Astros. He
Speaker 2: won two World Series titles. The Indians traded C. C.
Speaker 2: Sabathia to the Brewers. He went eleven and two. Now
Speaker 2: they didn't have postseason success that year. The Royals traded
Speaker 2: Jorge Solar to the Braves. He was the World Series
Speaker 2: MVP for the Braves. The Yankees traded Eroldis Chapman to
Speaker 2: the Cubs. The Cubs won the World Series. There are
Speaker 2: teams that will get players and it might be the
Speaker 2: one player that they need. So We're talking about the
Speaker 2: Astros getting Verlander, the Brewers getting c C. Sabathia, the
Speaker 2: Braves getting Solar, and the Cubs getting roled as Chapman.
Speaker 2: Not exactly small market teams, but still these guys are available.
Speaker 2: The question is, and I don't know if Justin Berlander
Speaker 2: said I don't want this is where I want to go.
Speaker 2: And my loyalty to Trek scoobl is, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: and for the cy youngs and the great performance. But
Speaker 2: we're running a franchise here. You're running a business. We're
Speaker 2: running a business. We got to do what's best for
Speaker 2: our team. You can't go you know what. We gave
Speaker 2: him up and we didn't get the best that we
Speaker 2: could because we wanted to send him to where he
Speaker 2: wanted to go. Yes, Marvin, best.
Speaker 4: Case scenario for MLB the Brewers and the Dodgers in
Speaker 4: the NLCS where you have a star player in Masarowski.
Speaker 4: This is how you pronounce his name, Miserowski, a guy
Speaker 4: that's throwing one hundred against the Dodgers with Schooble. Is
Speaker 4: that the best case scenario for MLB? Will it bring
Speaker 4: more eyeballs? I know we say this.
Speaker 2: Every year, but yeah, I think you're going to have
Speaker 2: people will be fascinated with the Dodgers, but most of
Speaker 2: America would root for the Brewers because you would say,
Speaker 2: you know, I can identify with that team. They don't
Speaker 2: have the budget the Dodgers do, and it's the big
Speaker 2: guy like the Yankees and Dodgers. People are probably torn.
Speaker 2: Who do I have roots for?
Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI, I went back and tried to find the
Speaker 3: air quote, small market team that acquired someone at the
Speaker 3: trade deadline. In six the Detroit Tigers at ninety five
Speaker 3: wins and lost the World Series. The following year, in
Speaker 3: the offseason, they traded for Miguel Cabrera, the great hitter
Speaker 3: from the Florida Marlins. They acquired Cabrera to try to
Speaker 3: make that run.
Speaker 2: I have plowed teams that are taking a chance. If
Speaker 2: you had that chance, you just don't want to look
Speaker 2: back and go, man, we might have had the best team,
Speaker 2: or if we had somebody your window of opportunity it
Speaker 2: is so small in all of these sports unless you
Speaker 2: have that money to make a mistake. You know, Dodgers,
Speaker 2: they had Jordan Alvarez in their system and let him go.
Speaker 2: He's gonna win the triple crown this year. So you
Speaker 2: do make mistakes. The question is how many mistakes do
Speaker 2: you made and how costly are they? Matthew and Texas. Hey,
Speaker 2: matt what's on your mind?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 8: Yours truly? Hey, I just gave my Father of the
Speaker 8: Bride speech in Spain last week and it went over
Speaker 8: very well. Had two quick tips for you. First of all,
Speaker 8: you want to get the crowd involved. First of all,
Speaker 8: I did a football chance since they won the World Cup,
Speaker 8: got everybody on my side. The second point I would
Speaker 8: make is, I know you said you want to keep
Speaker 8: it light hearted but also heartfelt. So in order to
Speaker 8: do that, you also want to keep some eye contact
Speaker 8: with your daughter, look at her when you're light hearted
Speaker 8: as opposed to heartfelt, because you want to keep it together,
Speaker 8: keep everything moving, and you don't want to lose it.
Speaker 8: And obviously it's easy to do in that moment.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Matthew. I am taking advice from a
Speaker 2: couple of the listeners. They said, go to the where
Speaker 2: the reception is going to be, find out where the
Speaker 2: microphone's going to be, and then go over there and
Speaker 2: stand and just so you get acclimated and that therefore
Speaker 2: it won't be new when I walk up there. But
Speaker 2: thank you, Matthew. I've received a lot of really good advice,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that I am writing down the speech
Speaker 2: because then I don't have to make eye contact the
Speaker 2: entire time. I'm going to be looking down. Now I'll
Speaker 2: look up, you know, for laughter. I'll be very careful though,
Speaker 2: with a couple of things I have to say that
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to look over to
Speaker 2: my daughter won't be able to do it. But I'm
Speaker 2: bringing my son up there. He'll if I falter, then
Speaker 2: he'll fill in the gray area and hopefully he'll say
Speaker 2: something nice about his sister.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Dylan, Do you have markings on the speech
Speaker 5: like pause for laughter and a.
Speaker 2: Pause you know? No, I don't think there'll be notes
Speaker 2: there in the margins. It'll be just there. Will not
Speaker 2: be a happier person in America than me when that
Speaker 2: speech is over, because then I'm gonna get my drink on.
Speaker 2: Now I do have the father daughter dance. Who cares
Speaker 2: if I screw that up? Bean, Paul, You're gonna be
Speaker 2: walking away from that speech. It's gonna be like a
Speaker 2: runner at the New York Marathon. People are gonna handing
Speaker 2: you beers. Yes, I'm gonna be walking out like Joe
Speaker 2: Namath when he won the Super Bowl. I have my
Speaker 2: finger in the air like we did it. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk some football. Mike Sandos Quarterback Tier results for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They're here and we'll come back and
Speaker 2: talk to him after this.
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Speaker 2: Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame voter, and his twenty twenty six Quarterback
Speaker 2: Tiers column drops today. Todd thought it was tea rs
Speaker 2: like tears, I said, I said, no, it's levels.
Speaker 9: I have tears about bow Nick's not big and level.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, PAULI was telling Fritzy Bownicks is like
Speaker 2: a Tier three quarterback, and Fritzi's going apoplectic on everybody here.
Speaker 2: So Mike's been doing this his thirteenth annual survey, ranking
Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks into five tiers from best to worst,
Speaker 2: and also did this with a help of votes from
Speaker 2: fifty NFL coaches and execus ives. Thirty five veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are ranked sorted into five tiers from best to worst.
Speaker 2: We will welcome back Mike. Mike, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Give me the criteria for Tier one.
Speaker 9: I'm glad that you're asking about criteria.
Speaker 2: We need.
Speaker 9: We need a criteria for the Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 9: think criteria is the key to all of these lists.
Speaker 9: Do you have one? And for top tier it's really
Speaker 9: you know, do you carry the team each week? Do
Speaker 9: you handle those pure pass situations, meaning we got to
Speaker 9: throw the ball. They know we got to throw the ball.
Speaker 9: They're more nervous on defense than we are on offense.
Speaker 9: And you kind of know that if you're a fan
Speaker 9: of a team when you have to throw it, everything
Speaker 9: gets stripped away and you don't really have a major
Speaker 9: hole in your game. That's Tier one, Okay.
Speaker 2: So Patrick Mahomes is the the number one quarterback, even
Speaker 2: coming off an injury. And I always look at these
Speaker 2: lists and go, Okay, there's a regular season quarterback and
Speaker 2: then there's a postseason quarterback. Josh Allen. Regular season quarterbacks
Speaker 2: been unbelievable, Lamar Jackson, regular season quarterback. When we get
Speaker 2: into the postseason, then it's different. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if these rankings would be different if I said, give
Speaker 2: me the postseason quarterback as opposed to the regular season quarterback.
Speaker 9: I really agree with that, and even Josh Allen was
Speaker 9: in Tier one. But I felt like when we get
Speaker 9: to these playoff games, there's a sloppiness around Lamar Jackson
Speaker 9: or Josh Allen. The balls on the ground, sometimes there's
Speaker 9: wasted opportunities. You don't feel like they fully understand how
Speaker 9: precious each possession is, right whereas with somebody like Mahomes,
Speaker 9: they're on top of all of that and they tend
Speaker 9: to not make those kind of sloppy mistakes, and it
Speaker 9: just feels like a more of a well oiled machine,
Speaker 9: and that really does serve you well when the margins
Speaker 9: are smallest in those playoff games.
Speaker 2: You only have three quarterbacks in Tier one. Jill Burrow,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have Stafford. Okay, Joe Burrow feels like
Speaker 2: he's gotten a little bit of a hall pass injuries.
Speaker 2: He did go to the Super Bowl, but this is
Speaker 2: one of those win healthy kind of rankings.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I would say the last two years his numbers
Speaker 9: are almost identical to Lamar Jackson's and he's played five
Speaker 9: fewer games. I do think that there is a premium
Speaker 9: put on the peer passing, the ability to throw the
Speaker 9: ball from the pocket. That's the most consistent sustainer of success,
Speaker 9: not only in a course of a season, but a
Speaker 9: course of a career. You don't see a lot of
Speaker 9: dual threaders at age thirty seven, dual threading anybody, right,
Speaker 9: So I think that really helps Joe Burrow. And look,
Speaker 9: he was spectacular a couple of years ago. People understand
Speaker 9: his defense was absolutely horrible. I think, you know, when
Speaker 9: I go on and have a conversation in Seattle, why
Speaker 9: isn't Sam and Arnold higher well number one defense and
Speaker 9: special teams in the league. People know how they win
Speaker 9: the games, right, Sam can do it sometimes, he doesn't
Speaker 9: do it all the time, and so I think those
Speaker 9: Tier one guys like Burrow, you feel like he can
Speaker 9: do it all the time. It's not like he's missed
Speaker 9: full season in the last couple of years. So I
Speaker 9: think that's why he gets a little bit of a break.
Speaker 2: But you got Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald slotted together.
Speaker 2: It feels like Baker Mayfield does more to help his
Speaker 2: team win than Sam Donald.
Speaker 9: I think that's defensible. Yeah, I think that's true. I
Speaker 9: think Donald probably, you know, winning the Super Bowl, there's
Speaker 9: probably some kind of a premium on that. One of
Speaker 9: the great conversations I had with somebody was like, you
Speaker 9: know what were Eli Manning or Joe Flack who over
Speaker 9: the course of their careers those Super Bowls were everything?
Speaker 9: And obviously they made some big plays in those Super
Speaker 9: Bowls too to win. But I think that helps. That
Speaker 9: helps Donald low too. I feel like people feel like
Speaker 9: with Baker Mayfield that he is probably slipped a little
Speaker 9: bit last year, that it fell off around him and
Speaker 9: he had a much harder time, and so I think
Speaker 9: that's probably why he kind of slipped a little bit
Speaker 9: there and we'll see what happens this year. Doesn't really
Speaker 9: feel like Tampa's on fire either. That situation feels valatile
Speaker 9: to me.
Speaker 2: The Jalen Hurts ranking is always fascinating because if I said, hey,
Speaker 2: you got to pick your quarterback for the postseason, Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts is going to be in my top five because
Speaker 2: I've seen there, there's enough of the sample size there.
Speaker 2: But why is he seventeenth on this list? In your opinion?
Speaker 9: I think that it is hard to you know, it's
Speaker 9: hard to parse out credit in football, harder than the
Speaker 9: other ones when you have great teams around him or not.
Speaker 9: And I think he's really done it when he's had
Speaker 9: the best offensive line in the league, they've had a
Speaker 9: great running game that he's a big part of, and increasingly,
Speaker 9: you know, at least lately, they've had a really good defense.
Speaker 9: So like, would the Eagles trade how many put it
Speaker 9: this way, how many players ranked higher on this list
Speaker 9: would the Eagles trade Hurts for? I think it'd be
Speaker 9: a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Who would you trade? Okay, so Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, Borough, Lamar.
Speaker 9: Yep, Herbert, Oh yeah, every day of the week. Dak
Speaker 9: probably may for sure. Yes, sure, I think so.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love Yes, uh, Rock Party.
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams, I mean, Caleb, I think people would take
Speaker 9: for the long runway in the future. You know, pretty
Speaker 9: that depends. I mean some people think he's product of
Speaker 9: system to a degree too. But we're getting you know,
Speaker 9: after that, Jayden Daniels, Darnold. I think, Lawrence, this is
Speaker 9: what I think about Jalen Hurts. Do you think how
Speaker 9: excited do you think they are right now to sign him,
Speaker 9: to give him a raise and a big extension.
Speaker 2: Probably not thrilled.
Speaker 9: And do you think he's They just picked up a
Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight first round pick in that aj Brown trade.
Speaker 9: When they did that, my mind kind of went to
Speaker 9: I wonder how much longer Jalen Hurts is their quarterback
Speaker 9: as opposed? And if Jalen Hurts were available, like would
Speaker 9: people will be clamoring to get him. I mean, he
Speaker 9: would make money and get a job, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 9: but I don't think I'd be the same as if
Speaker 9: those guys above them were.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's say Baker Mayfield's available in Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: same price.
Speaker 9: I mean I would probably take Baker Mayfield would you No.
Speaker 9: I feel like Jalen Hurts really needs to run. It
Speaker 9: needs his legs to be part of this, and I
Speaker 9: don't trust that the older he gets, I guess this
Speaker 9: is where I'm coming from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's fair. And you talk about
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I get all that he has weapons,
Speaker 2: he got a great running back. I understand all that.
Speaker 2: But I have seen him on the biggest stage in
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls be the best guy on the field. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I just I keep coming back to that, whether
Speaker 2: that's fair or not. Bo Nicks did a great job
Speaker 2: with the Broncos. You got him leading a Tier three Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think he had four Tier two votes last year,
Speaker 9: seven twenty one this year. So that's a big jump.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud's the one that's kind of fascinating you just lingering
Speaker 2: there at number twenty.
Speaker 9: He is, and I think that it's a huge year
Speaker 9: for him. They finally got him some offensive lineman. I think,
Speaker 9: you know, I think that's he is one of those quarterbacks.
Speaker 9: I think Herbert's in this category two where you know
Speaker 9: they've taken some hits and you get a feeling sometimes
Speaker 9: watching them that it's affecting them even maybe when the
Speaker 9: rush isn't there and you can kind of get a
Speaker 9: syndrome as a quarterback where it's hard to pull out
Speaker 9: of that. And I think this is a really big
Speaker 9: year for both of those quarterbacks to kind of feel
Speaker 9: comfortable again, feel good again. And Shrouds clearly has it
Speaker 9: in him. But they have not had an offensive line,
Speaker 9: And it doesn't mean it's all the line's fault, but
Speaker 9: I think we've seen without one, he has a hard
Speaker 9: time kind of beating the pressure, beating the defense with
Speaker 9: his anticipation in the quick, confident throws that we've seen
Speaker 9: some of the or other quarterbacks be able to make.
Speaker 2: I'm federally mandated to ask you about Shador Sanders. You
Speaker 2: have him as the thirty fifth ranked quarterback.
Speaker 9: Out of thirty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is this just kind of an incomplete that
Speaker 2: we're not We're still not sure what we have here.
Speaker 9: It's worse than that, because thirty seven of the voters
Speaker 9: put him in tier four. To be in tier four,
Speaker 9: you're either you know, somebody you wouldn't want to go
Speaker 9: to the whole season with. It could be like a
Speaker 9: Jacoby Brissette. Right, we sort of know what he is
Speaker 9: and we don't. We want to get a different guy,
Speaker 9: or tier four can be the guy's barely started any games,
Speaker 9: you know, let's put him in tier four. So you
Speaker 9: could give Shoudre some of that. But he got twelve
Speaker 9: in tier five. I got the most of anyone in here.
Speaker 2: JD.
Speaker 9: McCarthy got ten. So that's five is like not a
Speaker 9: starter period, And so people really, you know, question his
Speaker 9: you know, some of the sathysical ability, you know, and
Speaker 9: then just his his accurate See, people didn't feel like
Speaker 9: was very good at all last year, so you know it.
Speaker 9: In my mind, I also wonder like, okay, do people
Speaker 9: not like him too? You know, just his his attitude,
Speaker 9: his approach, his pedigree, lack of a better word, just
Speaker 9: coming up the way he did. I don't think that
Speaker 9: probably helps him.
Speaker 2: No, And then your dad shows up in training camp
Speaker 2: and you know, ESPN just spends hours and hours on
Speaker 2: Shoodoor Sanders and I understand the name, I understand the clicks,
Speaker 2: but if you look at production versus clicks, he would
Speaker 2: be a Tier one quarterback totally.
Speaker 9: He's a Tier one clicker, you know, so I think
Speaker 9: he has some value that way, but people didn't see
Speaker 9: a whole lot to build on last year.
Speaker 2: Every year from a quarterback after they've dropped on your.
Speaker 9: List, that's interesting. I say. The highlight was this a
Speaker 9: number of years ago, when Philip Rivers was giving a
Speaker 9: one of those off the field pressers. You know, all
Speaker 9: the media is standing around him and I wasn't there,
Speaker 9: and yeah, I knew him a little bit, but he said, yee,
Speaker 9: I gotta watch out. I'll be following you know, watch out,
Speaker 9: I'll be following in Sando's tears or something. And I thought, hey,
Speaker 9: that kind of made my day. You know, my kids
Speaker 9: were impressionable at age at that time, and so that
Speaker 9: was probably the best, the best reference that I got
Speaker 9: that I found out about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to
Speaker 2: think about being there in Tier three, Mike.
Speaker 9: I would love to I'd love to hear it from
Speaker 9: and I kind of agree. I mean, one of the
Speaker 9: quotes I used in there from someone in the league
Speaker 9: was like, you're not taking him over some of these
Speaker 9: other guys. I mean, just for his ability to throw
Speaker 9: and run the offense that said doesn't look the way
Speaker 9: that it used to look like. Here.
Speaker 2: Thanks for providing programming for a lot of shows across
Speaker 2: America this week. Mike, we appreciate that.
Speaker 9: I appreciate you having me on. And congrats too. I
Speaker 9: know you're you're in the victory lap here. Congrats on everything.
Speaker 9: It's it's an honor to be here.
Speaker 2: And don't you're going to try to embarrass me and
Speaker 2: maybe nominate me, you know, for somebody contributor to the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. I mean, if you want to,
Speaker 2: you can. But if it makes you happy, Yeah, if
Speaker 2: it makes you happy, then fine.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, the Belichick omission went over so well.
Speaker 9: I think, you know, I think probably putting you in
Speaker 9: over him would be a good first start, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did that happen?
Speaker 9: So that story. I've been on the committee for fifteen
Speaker 9: years and there's been a number of times where I like,
Speaker 9: I get frustrated because you can't make people think the
Speaker 9: way you think, right, And I'm like, oh, what we
Speaker 9: found out on this is they changed the voting so
Speaker 9: that you had three senior candidates, guys are retired twenty
Speaker 9: five years from playing, You had a coach, and you
Speaker 9: had a contributor. Contributors like an owner. There's people on
Speaker 9: that committee that it's like they're religious. And to get
Speaker 9: the seniors in okay, and so these people, you had
Speaker 9: to pick three of those five on the final ballot,
Speaker 9: they picked they just spanned the seniors, picked all seniors,
Speaker 9: leaving off Belichick because they feel like if these seniors
Speaker 9: don't make it, they'll never make it. And I just
Speaker 9: that just really irritated me. That's like taking the process
Speaker 9: into your own hands, making it about yourself. You have
Speaker 9: to step back and evaluate these five. We can worry
Speaker 9: about the process later. You don't like it, then work
Speaker 9: to change it. But you have to put the best
Speaker 9: people in, and Belichick is So I was very embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Belichick stinted North Carolina, hurt his chances at all first
Speaker 2: ballot or.
Speaker 9: Pro Football Hall of Fame, pro you know. I mean, look,
Speaker 9: it doesn't help anybody when they go somewhere else and fail.
Speaker 9: But come on, I mean the body of work as
Speaker 9: a head coach and before that as an assistant coach.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's the standard in a lot of ways.
Speaker 9: And so I don't know when you look at some
Speaker 9: of the coaches they've put in. I wasn't always on
Speaker 9: the coach committee in these years. I'm gonna, But I
Speaker 9: was like, how can you put some of those guys
Speaker 9: in and not have Belichick skate in.
Speaker 2: I have no idea Mike Tomlin did enough to be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 9: That'll be interesting. Yeah, I think he'll. I think he'll
Speaker 9: be in the room and he'll be the coaching finalist
Speaker 9: at some point, and then it depends really what the
Speaker 9: format is, who he has to compete against on the
Speaker 9: final ballot. Will he be over able to overcome players?
Speaker 9: I don't think so, and we've seen that. That's one
Speaker 9: of the reasons they created a lane, a coach's lane.
Speaker 9: But it feels to me like some of this structure
Speaker 9: and processes in flux. Maybe they're waiting till after the
Speaker 9: ceremony to not distract from it, you know, with Larry
Speaker 9: Fitzgerald and Drew Brees and those guys going in Luke Keigley.
Speaker 9: But I feel like there's they're going to evolve, maybe
Speaker 9: the committee or the panels, some different people something after
Speaker 9: what happened last year, and then that'll determine whether a Tomlin,
Speaker 9: you know, has a chance. I would say right now
Speaker 9: it would be very difficult for him.
Speaker 2: Very different great stuff as always, Mike, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic and
Speaker 2: his quarterback tears his thirteenth annual survey ranking all the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks there. How about we take a break, last call
Speaker 2: for phone calls? Well, we learn what's in store tomorrow
Speaker 2: right after this.
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Speaker 1: of that coming up. Eric and Virginia. Hi, Eric, what
Speaker 1: do you have for me today?
Speaker 12: Hey Dan, I'm just wondering who's gonna have to go
Speaker 12: to HR tomorrow for the little nassoo this morning with
Speaker 12: your live feed from Maine.
Speaker 2: I'm going to blame the Internet. I'll blame Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: I'll just blame him. You know, can't go wrong there.
Speaker 2: But thank you Eric. Now, just a technical difficulty and
Speaker 2: the big German ended up fixing it. Took a little time.
Speaker 2: Paulie took over hosting the show. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: give him his own show here one of these duds.
Speaker 3: Based on that alone.
Speaker 2: Yes, everyone jumped in. We had fun Asa in Texas.
Speaker 2: Hi Asa, Hey Dan.
Speaker 6: If if you have the technical difficulties you had today
Speaker 6: on your last show, are you postponing retirement? Are you
Speaker 6: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Well maybe you got me with a no pun intended
Speaker 2: to technicality there, but no. I one way or another.
Speaker 2: We'll do the show even if nobody's able to hear
Speaker 2: us if there's technical difficulties, but we'll be at the
Speaker 2: super Bowl in Atlanta. What could go wrong? Chris and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Hi Chris, what do you have?
Speaker 13: Hey DT, Thanks for taking my call. I don't think
Speaker 13: the big german gets enough credit first and foremost.
Speaker 2: But the reason for.
Speaker 13: My call is I was looking back just talking about
Speaker 13: the small market teams, tak taking a chance, spending money.
Speaker 13: Lifelong Indians fan twenty sixteen collictaing attest to this, Andrew Miller.
Speaker 13: We get from the Yankees virtually unhittable the entire playoffs
Speaker 13: from so Game seven when he just.
Speaker 2: Ran out of gas.
Speaker 13: They went and spent revenue money from the playoffs the
Speaker 13: next offseason for Edwin incarnosion a big bat. Somebody to
Speaker 13: Cleveland never never gets unless they draft him and bring
Speaker 13: him up. I just think the Guardians are a They
Speaker 13: are a poster child for how to run an organization
Speaker 13: in a small to mid market. I think going back
Speaker 13: to John Hart's days back in the you know one
Speaker 13: cake of Sfield open in the mid nineties, all the
Speaker 13: way through today and even making a splash yesterday going
Speaker 13: into this postseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always there and there's something to be said
Speaker 2: for that. And that starts to me with up top
Speaker 2: well run organization. Mark and Richmond. Hi, Mark, what do
Speaker 2: you have for me today?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 6: Dan?
Speaker 9: Who are you at?
Speaker 1: Five?
Speaker 14: Good dad bought?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 14: Just a quick question.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's ever been asked on the air,
Speaker 6: at least I haven't heard it. Are we the listeners
Speaker 6: going to be fortunate enough to see your daughter's speech?
Speaker 8: Perhaps posted on the website or something after the web?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It depends on how well I do. Okay,
Speaker 2: but maybe maybe I have I have veto power and
Speaker 2: I need to run it by the home office. And
Speaker 2: uh and my daughter probably not. You know, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's too special of a moment. See that's where my
Speaker 2: wife would be going don't you know, make it funny
Speaker 2: and be giggly and do don't do that. You know
Speaker 2: this is your daughter. So I'm like, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, but I gotta have a little levity.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't treat it like it's a funeral.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's still going to be my daughter, but
Speaker 2: today she's a bride. How about that line? Okay? Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Right at the very end, I told you,
Speaker 2: I just cried she will always be my daughter, but
Speaker 2: today she's a bride. That's the kapper mauzle.
Speaker 3: Tom that do you believe in miracles of a wedding?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yes? Dylan?
Speaker 5: Are you gonna do the like his family gained a daughter,
Speaker 5: We gained a son? That that old thing?
Speaker 2: No, okay, no, well no, it's not a wow. It's
Speaker 2: just people have said that before. I'm trying to make
Speaker 2: it unique all new. Yeah, I'm not knowing At GPT,
Speaker 2: you'd say, hey, can you write my speech here?
Speaker 4: Yes, Todd, are you planning anything comedic or you're gonna
Speaker 4: try to keep it all sensitive?
Speaker 2: And telling you you can't keep a secret.
Speaker 9: Not go, I gotta keep a secret.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't able to give you any information that could
Speaker 4: help you with any of those jokes.
Speaker 2: How about you open up for me.
Speaker 4: Like do a Limerick. Guys, I can bomb with a
Speaker 4: couple of jokes. Anything you say, it's gonna be hilarious.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, you could be the warm up.
Speaker 2: You can be the warm up. You could do rhyme time.
Speaker 2: You could do like five rhyme times and then now
Speaker 2: I go, how about a round of applause for Fritzy
Speaker 2: and it will sound just like that by the.
Speaker 9: Time I get to the third rhyme time.
Speaker 2: We walk in weal, Yes.
Speaker 4: Are you going to shout out your new son in
Speaker 4: law like you know when we first met Parker he
Speaker 4: was great off of the bat in blank blank blank.
Speaker 2: Any good words about him? Yes, okay, yes, yes, his
Speaker 2: name's Josh.
Speaker 9: Oh that's what I say, Yeah, Parker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say. See now I'm going to say, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to Parker. You
Speaker 2: know you're I mean, Josh. People are gonna go, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, who's your daughter Mary? I'm sorry, Josh. Yes,
Speaker 2: Dyling is Parker's middle name?
Speaker 5: Binding Chance No, excellent, Yeah, so you're not you're not
Speaker 5: giving any consideration to having Todd punch up your speech
Speaker 5: with jokes a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I would That's the worst idea I've ever heard. Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 2: Todd can punch up my script here. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Why would you reach out to standloa Bargatzio?
Speaker 4: Will Ferrell when you got meet it?
Speaker 2: H Ryan in Arizona? Hi Ryan, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 14: Anne full discloser. I am in Arizona, So I hate
Speaker 14: the Doughters, but I listen to all these daughter fans
Speaker 14: tell you that the Dodters are smarter than everybody else
Speaker 14: in any break, ask goople. That's simply not true. It's
Speaker 14: such a huge risk for the brewers of the race
Speaker 14: to get away their firm system for a guy that's
Speaker 14: going to sign with the Dodgers into month anyway, the
Speaker 14: Dodgers don't care about prospects because they they're just going
Speaker 14: to buy a new outfield in a few years. And
Speaker 14: I mean that money doesn't buy wins because if you
Speaker 14: look at eight rows and standings, nine of the top
Speaker 14: twelve teams is spending over five hundred. If youok at
Speaker 14: the bottom eighteen, pay roll is only for them over
Speaker 14: five hundred. So you can definitely buy wins.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's a regular season team. Ryan, I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: do you have a chance to win the World Series?
Speaker 2: And can I keep scoobl away from the Dodgers? At
Speaker 2: what point do you say we're going for it? And
Speaker 2: that's the only thing that I'm bringing up. Look, I
Speaker 2: get it, I understand the smaller market, but do you
Speaker 2: when do you get to the point where you go,
Speaker 2: let's go all in, let's go try to win this.
Speaker 2: If I'm Tampa, definitely, the Yankees definitely, because the American
Speaker 2: League is not good and now you have a chance.
Speaker 2: Though to me it could be a missed opportunity. Paulie,
Speaker 2: this day in sports, this.
Speaker 3: Is a great one. August not for the bird. August fourth,
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three, Dave Winfield of the Yankees accidentally kills
Speaker 3: a seagull on the field in Toronto. It was between
Speaker 3: innings as they're warming up after the game. They were
Speaker 3: kind of joking around about it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the local policeman that was at the game walked in
Speaker 3: and arrested Dave Winfield. They brought him to the Toronto
Speaker 3: Police fourteen Division and he was charged with unnecessary suffering
Speaker 3: of an animal a five hund dollars fine. The next
Speaker 3: day it was dropped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought that he tried to kill the bird.
Speaker 2: They think Coplin. On this date in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 2: Joel young Blood had a base hit pulled from the game.
Speaker 2: The Mets were trading him to the Expos, who were
Speaker 2: playing a night game in Philadelphia. So he went from
Speaker 2: a RBI single in one game with one team to
Speaker 2: a pinch hit hit in a single off Steve Carlton
Speaker 2: in the nightcap two different teams. Todd, what did you learn?
Speaker 2: On the program?
Speaker 9: Albert Bria thinks the Saints, especially after finishing strong last year,
Speaker 9: could be a surprise team this season.
Speaker 2: What did I learn? We're excited that the Notre Dame
Speaker 2: UC rivalry was back, but not until twenty thirty. Have
Speaker 2: a great day, everybody, look forward to chatting with you tomorrow.