1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, So on our Embrace Your Sexuality episode of 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: the pod, I kind of made fun of melissas saying 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: sadomasochism and did rift on the idea of somebody making 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: into a beat, which is something that they do on the. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Dough Boys podcast, which I love. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to it, give it a listen. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: But you guys did it, and I'm so tickled by it. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: I just love it so much. We had a couple 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: of people do it, and I just think this is 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: so funny. And if I think it might be like 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: something we continue on the pod, so like, if one 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: of us says something really weird and totally deranged and outlandish, 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: please feel free to turn it into the newest club beat. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready to party. Let's do it. You guys, I 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: know you can. You're very talented, all of you. Okay, 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: So the first one is from a more better listener 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: that call themselves be Temp, which is adorable. I know 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: that's not your real name, but adorable, Well, it's your 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: DJ name. Can't wait to hear. This one sado masochism. 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: And this next one is from a more better listener 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: named Ash. Thank you so much, Ash for doing this. 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: These are so funny, you guys. 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: Thanks More More, More, more better, more and more. 24 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Better More. Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: stop pretending to have it all together and embrace the 26 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: journey of becoming a little more better every day. 27 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Or at least trying to. I clearly am right now. 28 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that's like that one. That's most of the marrow, 29 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: And that's Stephanie Beatrice. 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: How are you, friend? I'm okay, you, I'm great. 31 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: Have you been doing anything lately that's a little more 32 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: better Stephanie? 33 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Honestly, no. Well, I leave for a job pretty soon. 34 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I have to leave the country, So I'm just trying 35 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: to like relax and enjoy my house and not stressed 36 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: too much. Oh that's good. It's great to have a job, 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: but it's hard to leave home. 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 39 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is the four months. Yeah, it's a 40 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: long time. I know. 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long time, bro. It's a long time, bro. 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: How about you. Have you done anything that's more better lately? 43 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: Well, I am fresh off a trip with my family 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: and we went to the East coast. 45 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: When we are in Florida, we keep our kids on 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: West Coast time, so they go to bed late, and 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: then I go to bed when they go to bed, 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: and then I stay in bed until they wake up. 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: So I got like nine ten hours of sleep almost 51 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: the whole time while I was in Florida, with the 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: exception of a few nights in the beginning because bridgest 53 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: In Part two had come out, and so obviously I 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: had no choice. 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: Don't tell me anything. Oh my god, I don't tell me. 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: My god, watch, Oh my god. I'm so excited for 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: you to watch it, and please text me and don't 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: tell me when you finish. It's so horny this season. 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: It's always so horny, incredibly horny. Though it's like it's 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: hitting on another level. It is, you know what I mean. 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. It's great. 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: It's great because last last season was like so much 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: build up and just basically two people like breathing hot 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: air into each other, like very closely for the entire 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: season and this season, which it's great, which is great. 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: Also listen, love a slow burn, love a slow burn. 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: But and it's like grab a boob. 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: Get it, get up onto it, skirt, yeah, go for it. 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, well I like how this evolved into it. 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: It did. We are talking about Bridgerton. I'm watching America's 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: version of Bridgerton, which is Love Island, USA. It's so good. 72 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: I love it so much. It's so funny. I like, 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: my dream would be to do the commentary on it. 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: But Ian Sterling, who does the commentary on it, is 75 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: so good that like nobody can nobody can match it 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: because because he's got that like great accent and he's 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But that would be my dream, is to 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: do guest commentary on Love Island. I want that for you. Yeah, 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I want it for me too. They should do a season. 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: Where it's like celebrity guest commentary. 81 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: If it's bad, then you it would ruin the show 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: because it's so stupid and funny. Okay, okay, you guys, 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: this week we're not talking about We're not talking about 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: any other television. Although listen, you know what we work 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: in TV. We like TV. We watched TV. Melissa's taste 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: is a little better than mine, like True More. You're 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: you know what, You're right because both shows are horny. 88 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: It's just different kinds of horn different kinds of horney. 89 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: And I love all the cheesy rom coms and you 90 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: like some really cool anime stuff that I don't watch, 91 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: so you know. 92 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: It's all our tastes are varied. Anyway tastes guys, more Better. 93 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: We've been reading your emails and we've been listening to 94 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: your voice notes, which is really cute. You guys. Thank you, 95 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for writing. Yeah, and this week's 96 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: topic comes from a listener request. By the way, if 97 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: you have a suggestion for a future episode, please email 98 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: us at Morebetter pod at gmail dot com and you 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: can include a voice note to be featured on the pod. 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: So let's read the email. It says, hello, Hi to 101 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: how whoever this email may reach, it reached us. It's us, 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: it's us, guys. My name is Jay. These episodes have 103 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: really been enjoyable to listen to, especially in my own 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: downtime where I can relax and switch off. Oh that's nice, Jay. 105 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: So what I would like to be more better at 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: is I find that I struggle with overthinking, or I 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: should say, I catch myself overthinking about something, which usually 108 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: just makes it worse. Oh, I understand. I was hoping 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you could talk about how to overcome this I mean, 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: and we can try. 111 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: We can try. 112 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: Thank you in advance. Thank you and advance are taking 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: the time to read my passage. Oh my god, are 114 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: we in Bridgington? I really appreciate it. Kind regards, Jay, 115 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Jay, Jay. 116 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: Can I just say your manners are impeccable. I don't 117 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: remember the last time I write an email where someone 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: signed off kind regards and I kind of want my 119 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: God also. 120 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Like taking my time to read my passage, my passage, 121 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: my passage. So we liked this. We are going to 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: talk about overthinking today, Melissa, can you explain what you 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: think overthinking means? 124 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: Well, I have my interpretation of overthinking, but definition of 125 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: overthinking that I looked up or that was given to me. 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: Overthinking is deep thinking that spirals into unproductive thinking can 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: be correlated with anxiety, depression and or OCDYE. So of 128 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: course yes, and the spiral. It's the spiral. That word spiral, 129 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: I think is key when talking about overthinking because that 130 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: is the feeling for me when I've been stuck overthinking. 131 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: And I think when I was younger, I. 132 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: Was it was really bad because, in case you don't know, 133 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: anxiety and I are BFFs, best friends forever. Oh and 134 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: I've learned to live with my bestie a little bit 135 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: more better as I had gotten older, touch and go 136 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: up and down, as we all know that journey is. 137 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: But when I was younger, obviously everything's harder when you're younger, 138 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: and it was I just remember like the spiral being 139 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: such a huge part of my life, with like everything 140 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: getting dressed in the morning, like making choices about the 141 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: order to do things or like what to if I 142 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: was put in charge of planning something. Yeah, what about you, 143 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: How's what's your experience with overthinking? 144 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting one, right, because like I think, Okay, 145 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: so let me start by saying I did go just 146 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: I did just go see inside out too. Oh and 147 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: have you seen it? I have not. No, I my 148 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: kids saw it, but I couldn't go. It's pretty fantastic, 149 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: And there's a new emotion, a new character, anxiety, And 150 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: like I just thought that was such a smart and 151 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: incredible way to introduce the idea of anxiety to kids, 152 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: or like this idea to like name what they are 153 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: going through. Because every as I've gotten older, I realize 154 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: every single person that I know is dealing with anxiety 155 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: in some kind of way. Some people are better at 156 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: managing it, some people are learning how to manage it, 157 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: and some people don't even know that that's what they're 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: struggling with, and it's just like they're normal, which I 159 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: would say is me, It's been a journey to get 160 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: to the place where I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, that's 161 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: what that's what this is. But for me, overthinking kind 162 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: of manifests as like I guess it is a spiral. 163 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: It's less like about it's less about like planning for 164 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: the It's not like a planning thing for me, you know, 165 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: it's not like a it's more like I start kind 166 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: of thinking about how everything is gonna go wrong. Oh 167 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: like I think about what could what could go wrong, 168 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: like as if that's gonna like help me or protect me. 169 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, like that's kind of what happens to me. 170 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I like from Jay's letter, it sounds like maybe the 171 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: idea is like for Ja, it's like maybe they start 172 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: thinking about something and then they can't stop and then 173 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: it's like a cycle. Like it just like kind of 174 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: like a spiral. R Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's 175 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: different for everybody the way that it kind of happens. So, 176 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: like I thought this was really interesting. Isis our producer 177 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: sent us this article from the Harvard Business Review, and like, 178 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I just I thought this would be interesting to bring 179 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: up now because there's like kind of what happens in 180 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: the article is this this woman named Melody Wilding, who 181 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: is a licensed what what did I look to is 182 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: a licensed master social worker. There you go, who's like, 183 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, this person knows what they're talking about. Yeah, 184 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: we rarely do, but this person does. And what she 185 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: said about overthinking is that there's kind of like you 186 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: can kind of group it into three types. Right, there's rumination, 187 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: which is like a mental loop where you dwell on 188 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: past events, particularly negative or distressing ones. 189 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: Right. 190 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: There's future tripping, which is me, I'm the future tripper, 191 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: concerned about what lies ahead. Right, future tripping can escalate 192 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: to the point where it like stops you from doing 193 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: stuff right. And then over analyzing. While rumination and future 194 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: tripping are bound by time, one that's looking back and 195 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: the other looking forward, over analyzing is centered on depth. 196 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: It involves diving credibly deep into a topic, thought, or situation, 197 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: often to the point of excess. So it's just like 198 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: getting stuck in the thing. Oh, the over analyzing of 199 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: like this one moment or this one thing and getting 200 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: bogged down in details it might not be particularly relevant. 201 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: So I thought that was really interesting because like it 202 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: does feel like everybody's kind of overthinking is kind of different, right. 203 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: I like this because it I think it's important to 204 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: begin to identify what type of overthinker you may be, right, 205 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: because right, the more specific we can get about, like 206 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: the things that we struggle with, I feel like helps 207 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: us kind of figure out ways to get out of them, 208 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: or manage. 209 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: Them, or just be better at them, don't you. 210 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Think, right? Yeah, I don't overthink about like what to eat, right, 211 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Like what happens to me is like like I'm not 212 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: an overthinker about food. For example, I'm I freeze because 213 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: like I'd don't have the capability, so like I'll open 214 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the fridge and look around and be like this is 215 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: too much. I can't like make myself a sandwich, right, 216 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: forget it, and then I'll close the fridge, So like 217 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: I would call that something else, right, Like that's something else? Yeah, 218 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: Or like my sister, for example, has been helping my 219 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: mom pick furniture for her house, and like getting these 220 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: two to try to pick a couch or a rug 221 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: is like motherfucking bulink deep, Yo, I'm like, what about 222 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: this one? What about this one? What about this one? 223 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: You know, like I have had to I've had I 224 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: can't tell you how my times I've been like, it's 225 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: just a couch, you guys, it's just a couch. Like 226 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: it you know you can return it, but it's also 227 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: you can return it. 228 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm with I identify, I relate with your mom and 229 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: your sister because it's not just a couch. No, You're 230 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: gonna sit on it every day, and then you have 231 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: to think about is it comfortable enough, how will it 232 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: break in, how's it going to look in the room? 233 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: Is it too big? Is it too small? 234 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: What? 235 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Like that's where my brain goes and I can have 236 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: paralysis sometimes, like. 237 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: When we've moved and had to go answer to those questions. 238 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: Yes, but sometimes there's multiple answers to them, Stephanie. 239 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes there's more than one right answer. 240 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's what I do in that case. This 241 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: is what I did with my mother. Okay, I was like, 242 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: write down the things that you want, right, like you 243 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: want she wants the couch to be soft. She wants 244 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: because like for me and I'm not a journaler, but 245 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to like this stuff that's like, oh god, 246 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm spinning out about some you know, they're spinning out 247 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: about a couch, right yeah, Well, then just like write 248 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: down what you actually want out of that couch. You 249 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: wanted to not be too big for the space. You 250 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: want it to be soft enough to be able to 251 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: cuddle your granddaughter and read books. You wanted to look 252 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: French country chic. You wanted to you know, be stain resistant. 253 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Whatever it is that you specifically need out of that couch, 254 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: like the non negotiables, right yeah, the non negotiables. Like 255 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: for you guys, it would be like, this couch has 256 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: to be kid friendly because like we've got two it's 257 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: in a dog, yeah right, yeah, so we've got to 258 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: have something that feels like it'll survive that. And then 259 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: once you have some of that stuff written down, then 260 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you get then you get into the nitty gritty of like, okay, 261 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: well how much space do we have, let's measure it. Okay, 262 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: well what's the return policy on this couch? Can we 263 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: send it back if we hate it? You know, like okay, 264 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: how much time do we have before we have to 265 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: make a final decision? You know, like there's like I 266 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: think that there's ways too, and also sometimes you just 267 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: gotta bite the bullet, like bite the motherfucker bullets. 268 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: Got to bite the motherfucker bullet. I know, I know, 269 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: but you have to. 270 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: You have to choose. 271 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: Literally, this conversation is the reason why I have had 272 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: the same furniture for like over a decade. 273 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Let me in there, Melissa leak there. 274 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Every time I think about switching something out, I get paralyzed. 275 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 276 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: You know that like little ottoman in my living room. 277 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: It's like too big and I want to put like 278 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: a couch there the ottoman on the side. 279 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's fantastic, it's fantastic. There's room for the 280 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: art above on the wall. Yeah, you already have that 281 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: big leather couch. You guys are now you're getting a 282 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of personal information about Melissa Rover Merrill's living room, 283 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: but it's been. 284 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Featured on the IG. 285 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: It's not a secret you have that great leather couch. 286 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: It's a very hefty piece of furniture. Yeah, you don't 287 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: need another couch in there. You don't need another couch, 288 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: you don't. This is not an advert anything, But see 289 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: what am I overthinking? You're a commercial for Waiver. 290 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: My own overthinking about my living room has a spiral, 291 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: does into a conversation about all the living room furniture 292 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: and what are the problems about it? 293 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 294 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I think it's how direct I am about it. You are, 295 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: You're so concisive, do it? I am? I am about 296 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: that stuff. 297 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: I think that there is something about being decisive making 298 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: choices that for me can help with overthinking and especially 299 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: like the overanalyzing thing I was thinking this morning, particularly 300 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: about when I started directing and oh yeah, that first 301 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: that episode on Brooklyn where I first started directing. First 302 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: couple times I would spiral so much because I was 303 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: overloaded with like the choices of like how I could 304 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: do the scene, you know, Like I would kind of 305 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: figure out the blocking pretty quickly, because I think that 306 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: part comes easier to actors. But then I would I 307 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: would be like, well, but what if they're I think 308 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: because also I was insecure about you know, because I 309 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: was just starting out and I was just learning. So 310 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: then I think part of the overanalyzing was like what 311 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: if there's a better way to block this, or what 312 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: if there's like a thing I'm not thinking of that 313 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: I could do with the camera to highlight a joke, 314 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: and I would just spiral into all these possible routes 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: I could go. And then I realized at a certain 316 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: point that I was just like self sabotaging, and I 317 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: also wasn't getting any. 318 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Work done, because like three hours would go. 319 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: By and I'd be like, oh shit, I'm still on 320 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: this one scene and. 321 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: I have thirty more at a block. 322 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: And then it was this moment of just being like, 323 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: I just have to make a decision. I just have 324 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: to pick a thing, commit to that, make the plan, 325 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: do the thing, and I can come back to it later. 326 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: If I at three in the morning come up with 327 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: a better idea, I can write it down on my 328 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: phone real quick, which that has happened. 329 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: I have woken up in the middle of the night 330 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: and been like, yeah, this is what I should do 331 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: with the camera. That's a gonna deal. 332 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I grab my phone and I like 333 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: write it down really quick and like go back to sleep. 334 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's And I think I have over 335 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 3: the years trained myself where I feel like people sometimes 336 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: will comment about how decisive I can be, and part 337 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: of it is like a little bit of training of 338 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: just like not if I know, if I think about 339 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: it for more than five minutes, I'm gonna I might 340 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 3: go into a spiral. And so I'm gonna cut myself 341 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: off before I even go into the spiral and just 342 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: make the goddamn decision and commit to it that's really good, 343 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: and say this is what I'm doing, it's really good, 344 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: and move on. That's a really good tip for a 345 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: real light Like that's an application that we can use 346 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: in real life, right, like, because you can actually set 347 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: a timer for yourself, like a brain timer or an 348 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: actual phone timer and be like, I'm gonna think about 349 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: this for ten minutes, and if I don't have a decision, 350 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: then I'm just gonna like do something like something pick 351 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: just pick the first Yeah, even if I don't like it, 352 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: pick something, Just pick something. And then oftentimes, like when 353 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: you let go and you move on from that decision, 354 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: sometimes there is a better answer that comes, like naturally, 355 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: I think organically, like yeah, in a in a random moment, 356 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: you go, oh, that's what it was, but like you don't, 357 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: I don't getting dressed and putting on the wrong shoe, 358 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: me getting dressed and being like and then I'm like 359 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: I have. 360 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, just get dressed, put it on. And 361 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: then I put it on, I'm like, oh no, it's 362 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: not the shoe at all. It's that shoe. 363 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: It's that shoe. 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens to me. Yeah, I know. I do 365 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: try to give myself a timer about getting dressed, but 366 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: it rarely happens. It's not. But this isn't overthinking for me. 367 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: This is like a joy. I really enjoy right dressed 368 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and like putting stuff together. Although it doesn't look like it. 369 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: You guys, I'm usually in jeans and a T shirt. 370 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: It's fine. 371 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: I Getting dressed for me is a similar process without 372 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: the joy. 373 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's shocking to me. Doesn't it shocking 374 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: to learn things about like people? I mean, I know 375 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: that about you, but it's also just like why why? 376 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Why is oh my god? 377 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: But always I've always, for some reason, getting dressed has 378 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: always like given me some level of anxiety. It's gotten 379 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: better over the years, and I feel like I've got 380 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: better at it and I've let go of a lot 381 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: of but oh my god, so many mornings before school 382 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: in tears, just be like I don't know what to 383 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: just overcome with the anxiety. 384 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: Of like what to. 385 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Wear that day because you're afraid of what people were 386 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: thinking of you. 387 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: I think, so people are gonna Yeah, I was like 388 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: really insecure and just yeah, like I don't know, I 389 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: was a very anxious teenager. 390 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys hear that though? Like, whoever's listening to this, 391 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: this is one of the most beautiful people in the world, 392 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: and she's saying she's insecure. So like, if you feel insecure, 393 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: you just have to remember that, Like most of the time, 394 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: it's just your brain feeding you absolutely bullshit, absolutely sit 395 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: to try to protect you, you know, yeah, to try 396 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to protect you. But that's what my brain does, like 397 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: with overthinking, Like I don't I do the future negative. 398 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: My friend Lena my life Lena. My friend Lena calls 399 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: it negative future fantasy, So like my imagination goes and 400 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: goes to what could happen in the future, which is 401 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: gnarly and awful, and that's where I overthink. I go, 402 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be bad. I'm not going to be 403 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: good at it. I'm you know, it's true about you. 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm remembering some freakouts you had during the strike. Yeah, 405 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to work again, Yes, is it? 406 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: I had momentum, and now that's it, or industry collapse, 407 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: there's going to be non l Ai. We're going to 408 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: have to become some other kind of like maybe I'll 409 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: be a postal worker, which you know, would very cool job, 410 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: but it's. 411 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: Not to those who are listening. And she's not even embellishing. 412 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: Like these were the conversations we were having during the strike, 413 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: and I was like, I think it's going. 414 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: To be okay, And then like I start thinking, like 415 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: my family depends on me, like my mom and my history, 416 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Like I just have like so many people that are 417 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: depending on me, and like what if I can't provide 418 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: and what if there's an earthquake and what if we 419 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: don't have insurance and what if this? And what if that? 420 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: And what if my kid hates me when she grows 421 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: up constantly? 422 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Well that's every parent. 423 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: To spin out, But do you think about it at 424 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: three in the morning when you wake up to go 425 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: to the bathroom and yeah, for three hours, I do, okay, 426 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Well maybe I'm not alone. 427 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: Then oh yeah, three in the morning, what if what 428 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: if I die young? 429 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, it's the worst. 430 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: Three in the morning. Overthinking is the worst. So that's 431 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: when it happens to me. Yeah, most of the. 432 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: Time when it happens to me, four four better. 433 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: And then how do you get out of it? 434 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Do you just stay a week or do you I 435 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: don't know what I try to do, Okay, So I 436 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: have some practical tips that my therapist gave me, which 437 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: is like get up out of bed and get up 438 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: out of bed. Don't pick up your phone. Yeah, get 439 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: up out of bed, like try to sleep for like 440 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes, right, Like, but if your brain's really going, 441 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: get up out of bed, go to the living room 442 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: or go to another room and get something to read 443 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: that's not like that great. So like you can't be 444 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: reading like, you know, a court of whatever. You can't 445 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: be like reading your a guitar books, you know, like 446 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: if you don't know what that is, gulay alone. Yeah, 447 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: don't don't be picking up your favorite thriller. Don't and 448 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: pick up some kind of like something kind of boring 449 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: to read, Like, you know, I don't know what you 450 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: have in your house. It's boring, Like maybe it's a 451 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: book that you've been trying to read for a while, 452 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: it's not that exciting, or like look at a magazine 453 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: or do something that's like sort of mellow's quiet, and 454 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: then try to get your brain going on that and 455 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: then try to go back to sleep. But the minute 456 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: that you pick up your phone, it's over. It's literally 457 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: what my therapist said to me. So yeah, you know, 458 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: I trust her, don't pick up the phone. And then 459 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: the other thing that I think about a lot is 460 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: like is that true? Like hmm, meaning that you know, 461 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: for example, when I think about Ras hating me in 462 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: the future, like, is that true? Well, I don't know, 463 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: because it hasn't happened yet, So like I don't know. Yeah, 464 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: And no amount of me spinning out about it in 465 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: this moment at three o'clock in the morning is going 466 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: to give me the answer that's going to either avoid 467 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: it or fix it because none of it has happened yet. 468 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: So like that's the thing that I go back to 469 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm like, is that true? Is our Is 470 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: our industry completely over? Is it? You know? 471 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: All? AI? 472 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: Like? Is that true? I don't know? So I have 473 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: to keep moving forward mentally in a place of like 474 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I could try to 475 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: find out like whatever I can find out, but I 476 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. So because I don't know 477 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: if it's true, why am I sitting here spinning out 478 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: on it? You know, there's this thing called what is 479 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: it called short term temporal distancing, like, which is like 480 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: your brain kind of like puts it away, Like you 481 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: just kind of like. 482 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: Put it in a little baggy and tie it up, 483 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: put it in a little bit in a little baggy, 484 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: tie up the baggie, and put it on the way 485 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: to the back of your brain closet. 486 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because you don't need to like dig in 487 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: there right now. No, that's the thing that I kind 488 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: of like have to. That's the other thing about overthinking 489 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: is that sometimes what happens is you overthink the overthinking 490 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: and you go like why can't I? 491 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: Why can't Then you start judging it. 492 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Why can't I? And then you judge it And that's 493 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: the other thing that gets you really like spinning out too, 494 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: which I think is what Jay was getting out in 495 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: that letter, which is like, then I I don't know 496 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: how to stop, which is like it's okay that you 497 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: don't know how to stop. You're not you don't like 498 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: the problem is the brain. We own it. It's ours, right, 499 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: but we're also not like the expert on it. We 500 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: think we're the expert because it's our brain, but like 501 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: we're not. 502 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: We're not. 503 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: We're just not. And I think people would go to 504 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: school for a long long time to figure it out, 505 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: and like even they don't know. 506 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, but I like this idea of 507 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: it's essentially how do you pull yourself back into the present? Right, Yeah, 508 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: because like what you were saying, and I can also 509 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 3: the times that I've talked to Lena about my anxiety. 510 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: I remember one time she told me that anxiety is 511 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: fear of the unknown, and that really resonated with me because. 512 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just a lot of. 513 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: What I'm tripping about is stuff that I can't control. 514 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: So it's like this idea that you're talking about of 515 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: like how do we pull ourselves like just back into 516 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: the present, like whatever that is, whether it's movement or 517 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: journaling or reading something boring or yeah, it's like how 518 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: do we just get out of our heads and just 519 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 3: put all that shit in a little bag, put it 520 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: to the side, get back to the present and be like, 521 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: all right, what's in front of me? 522 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: What can I control? And what can I like do yeah. Well. 523 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: The other thing I do sometimes is like I go, well, 524 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: if I don't think about this right now, then like 525 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: when am I going to think about it? Yeah, so 526 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: really bad. That's a bad movie. 527 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to schedule some time later to stress 528 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: out about this. 529 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: And like, honestly, yes you can, Like you can actually, 530 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a journaler, but I am like 531 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: a list maker, and I will straight up like write down, 532 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: like think about how you're going to like you know xyz, 533 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: like how do I whatever whatever it is the thing 534 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: that you're stressing about, Like how am I going to 535 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: blah afford to make this like car payment or to 536 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: happen for my family, like pay off the student loan. 537 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: It's like you don't have to think about that at 538 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: three in the morning. You don't need to, Like you 539 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: can write it down on a piece of paper and 540 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: then like schedule some time for yourself this week, like okay, Wednesday, 541 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: I have a couple hours to kind of brainstorm about 542 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do about this, Like you don't have 543 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: to think about it right in that second, which is 544 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: like sometimes I see Brad do that, Like sometimes he'll 545 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: be like I have to think about it right now. 546 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you don't. Can set that aside and 547 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: like wait for a second, you know, you can put 548 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: it on the counter and like take care of it 549 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: in a minute, try not to forget about it, because 550 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the fear, right. It is like, well 551 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: then don't take care of this in the second. Like 552 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to figure it out. 553 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: It's like, well are you sure? Like is that true? 554 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: Right? 555 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: You know? Is that true? I don't know. I don't 556 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: think it is more better. 557 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: I feel like we got some good takeaways and tips 558 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: today with overthinking, but I also feel sweaty and stressed 559 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: out just talking about thinking. 560 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big it's a big thought. Yeah, overthinking 561 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: is a really big thing. It's not just one thing 562 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: or another, and it's like connected to all these other 563 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: little bits. It's very complex, the future anxiety. 564 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: And we didn't even get into like freaking overthinking about 565 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 3: some stupid shit you said ten years ago, because I'll 566 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: do that too. 567 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I went to an event the other 568 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: night just say this really quick, and I was like 569 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about Celine Dion and someone was saying they 570 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: are going to watch the documentary because they really want to, 571 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, they feel so bad for her about like 572 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: what you know she's going through right now, or like 573 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: physical problems, and you know, she's worked her whole life 574 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: to be able to sing and now she can't. Really 575 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: she's not gonna be able to do the thing that 576 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: she's wanted to do forever. And I like made some 577 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I said. I made some 578 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: like dumb joke, you know, and listen, we shouldn't joke 579 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: about people's health problems, and I don't think I did 580 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: in that moment, but I made some dumb joke and 581 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: everybody in this circle just stared at me, and I 582 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh no. And but at an event and 583 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: a party, and it was like kind of loud, so 584 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: like I don't know if they were waiting for me 585 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: to say something. I don't know, but I was like, 586 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: oh no, they hate me, like all of these women 587 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: hate me. And then you know, something happened, like some 588 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: part of the event started moving along and like there 589 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: was like a performance or something, so I didn't have 590 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: time to be like that's not what I meant, or 591 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: we take that the wrong way. And that was it. 592 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: That was just the end of that conversation, multiple writers 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: who I think are really cool, like you know, people 594 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: that I'd love to work with, and I was like, 595 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: oh no, they that's it they hate me for that's no. 596 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: They might, they might, they might, but like what you know, 597 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: part of me is like, oh no, And then another 598 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: part of me is like, you know, there's plenty efficiency 599 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Like those writers don't. 600 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: Like me, then maybe some others will. You know, there's 601 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: so many writers. But first yeah, but secondly, I bet 602 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: that it was not as bad as you think or 603 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: it might have been. But also I have had those moments. 604 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Man oh man Celine Dion, beloved iconic singer, and I 605 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: said some dumb shit and everyone was like, excuse him, wah? 606 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean, do you want me to share a really 607 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: embarrassing one that will make you feel better? 608 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Sure? I love that. 609 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the name. 610 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: But after we got picked up by NBC rescued, which 611 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: was like that whole for those who don't know, our 612 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: show got canceled and like a day later got rescued 613 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: by NBC and it was this big whirlwind and we 614 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: got flown to New York. 615 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: I was already there, but anyway, and it was like 616 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden. 617 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: Two days later, we were like at the upfronts and 618 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: we were at this and the day before we were 619 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: at this like NBC party, and I was so still 620 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: in the whirlwind of everything that had happened, like, oh 621 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: my god, I can't believe we're here. Oh my god, 622 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: I can't believe the show got saved. I can't believe 623 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: we got like my brain was so just overloaded with things. 624 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: And also we were at this NBC party. We're, you know, 625 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: learning new executives. We didn't know his name, blah blah blah. Anyway, 626 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: and this actor who's famous, uh was talking to Andy, 627 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: I think, and I went up and we said hello, 628 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: and then I said something like, oh, we gotta have 629 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: you on the show. And that person had already been 630 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: on the show in a couple episodes. 631 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: I work with them that much. 632 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know why it just like flew out 633 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: of my mouth. Oh, because I. 634 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: Don't think I was present. 635 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: I was just like and then he was like, you 636 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: were on another planet. He was like, yeah, I have, 637 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, right, I was just kidding. 638 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it was so bad. 639 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: No, he wasn't. 640 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: He was a good sport about it, but he definitely 641 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: thinks I'm a fucking idiot. And I just remember walking 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: away with Andy and going, oh my god, did you 643 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: hear what I said? 644 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, Bud, I. 645 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: Did I heard it? Oh God, yeah, yeah, Budd. I'm 646 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: so sorry. 647 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: I just started sweating more thinking about and I it's bad. 648 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Well sometimes just randomly think of that memory and dwell 649 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: on it. So really, yeah, thanks, that does make me 650 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: feel better. 651 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: There you go. Not alone, I'm not alone. I am 652 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: here with you. Wow. Geez, Louise girl, I'm literally sweating. 653 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm sweating so bad just telling that story. Oh listen, 654 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: if you think that you have a problem overthinking, don't 655 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: overthink it. You're not alone. Yeah, exactly, so alone. You 656 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: know we're all doing our best. Okay, So my big 657 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: takeaway today is that I'm not alone. I'm great at 658 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: picking furniture, and uh, there's a lot of fish in 659 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: the sy what about you? 660 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 3: My big takeaway is I am not good at picking furniture, 661 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: and next time I need to, I'm gonna call Stephanie 662 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna stick to my practice of being decisive 663 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: because that really helps my overanalyzing. 664 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and try to be present. 665 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: When I feel like I'm getting lost in my head, 666 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 3: try to bring myself back to the present moment. 667 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: I like your five minute tip. I think I am 668 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: going to apply that. Sometimes I'm gonna be like, I 669 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: can't make a decision about this thing. I'm just gonna 670 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: give myself a little timer, and then when it's over, 671 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna choose, just gonna choose and move on 672 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: to the next thing. Yeah, yeah, mm hmm. I feel 673 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: a little more better about this. I also feel a 674 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: little more better. I'm sweating profusely, but I feel a 675 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: little more better. Don't ever think you're sweat It's fine, 676 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Thanks girl. Yeah, Okay, see you guys next time. Remember 677 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: if you think of a topic that you want us 678 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: to cover, please don't ever think it. Oh my god, Stephanie, 679 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: stop making that a joke and send it to us. Okay, 680 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: bye bye. 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