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Speaker 1: do you know what the grossest ice cream flavor served

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Speaker 1: as a state dinner has to be? No, what's that? Oyster?

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Speaker 1: It was oyster flavored ice cream. So Jake Crossing a

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Speaker 1: Metal Flaws did the story on the history of ice

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Speaker 1: cream in America. And Dolly Madison, who was you know,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts, the greatest host or hostess in uh

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C used to serve oyster ice cream

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Speaker 1: two guests who were totally wowed by it. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of surprised people kept coming to these parties after that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. But actually, the other thing I learned from

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Speaker 1: the piece was that George Washington was really the person

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Speaker 1: who made serving ice cream at state dinners a thing

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Speaker 1: like he had a three piece machine to make and

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Speaker 1: serve ice cream in his kitchen, and it sort of

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Speaker 1: became the ultimate sign of luxury if you could serve

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Speaker 1: ice cream at your dinners, because it was just such

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Speaker 1: an effort to make. And that's kind of what kicked

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Speaker 1: off America's obsession with it. So I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: think that's my last fact. But how do you want

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Speaker 1: to end this? Well, how the out with a really

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Speaker 1: quick fact? So you know Rupert Grint, right, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: played Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter movies. Oh yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And you know he grew up making those movies. So

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Speaker 1: when he passed his driving exam, he was already worth

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Speaker 1: a lot of money by then. And you know, so

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Speaker 1: one day, people on set we're talking about, you know

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Speaker 1: what sorts of fancy cars they were thinking about buying

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Speaker 1: with all their HP money, And for some reason, Rupert's

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Speaker 1: dream was to own an ice cream truck, and so

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Speaker 1: you know, he got one, and the first time he

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Speaker 1: took it out for a spin, he actually he went

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Speaker 1: to a pub and when he was leaving, all these

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Speaker 1: kids came up to him trying to buy ice cream.

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Speaker 1: And the problem was he hadn't bothered to stock any

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Speaker 1: in the truck, which is just like the world's biggest teaser,

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Speaker 1: coogling around in the ice cream truck with zero ice

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Speaker 1: cream on board, like what did you think would happen?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, he sort of learned his lesson after that,

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Speaker 1: and now he keeps the van stocked with tons of

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Speaker 1: popsicles and there's even a working saft serve machine on board,

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Speaker 1: and so sometimes he just drives around the villages and

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Speaker 1: gives out free ice cream to kids. It's it's pretty awesome, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's great. I mean it is funny. I

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Speaker 1: told a story about people tricking kids with mash turnips

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Speaker 1: instead of ice cream, and you told a story about

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Speaker 1: Ron Weasley magically delivering ice cream the village kids in

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Speaker 1: his spare time. So I do think you have to

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Speaker 1: take home in the trophy today. Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I think I know just how I'll be celebrating. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's it for today's nine Things. Moving back with the

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Speaker 1: full length episode tomorrow, but thank you so much for listening.

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