WEBVTT - LeBron vs. Stephen A., Cam Spencer vs. KD & The Wild MVP Race | TICKET & THE TRUTH 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:11.840 Hey, Jones girl, Yes, what. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:12.959 Got you on this line? 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.960 Let me? Okay, hold on for everybody out there on 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:27.200 rainy days and you by yourself right are you? You 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.600 know what I'm saying right right this, This is the 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.960 vibes you play when you on rainy days. Pete. This 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.040 is what you need to have in the backyard right 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.919 here off in the hair. You're right here, Pete. You 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.600 play this and they have everybody show up, and so 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.720 somebody on the joint. Let's see what you got from me? 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:46.519 What you got from me? 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.159 Bro? I got you see this right here? 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Hey, Fred, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.480 ain't no mama, what you got going on the momy? 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:36.920 You're good? 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.280 Hey, it's all right, fin roll up, God damn it 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:51.520 right right right, hey, man, I want to welcome everybody 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.320 to certify today it's rainy day, but we're still here. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.600 See you in there, chocolate, Yes, sir, you got this 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.400 rain gear man, But you ready for the brain huh? 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.640 Next three days the same like down. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.800 Come back to it. Let you get out, come back 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:08.120 to it. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.679 Yeah, I'm gonna need a massage to this. I need 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.560 somebody to Let's get into it. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:15.320 Man, you just lost. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:27.080 Let's get it certain fast, certain certain fact, certain fast, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.919 certain certain fast. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:40.480 Certain it's a green shummer. Yeah, we built differently. You 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.240 ain't watching them the games like I'm watch them again outside. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:48.639 We're alive. That's when you stopped. Sure we go back 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:48.880 and we. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.120 Want straight up. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.640 You know, we're all left. Let's get going immediately. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.360 Nate, all right, First thing I want to ask you about, 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.840 so the Timber will got Randall Devincenzo back in the lineup, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.440 five game win streak, top ten in offensive defense, and 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.440 a lot of the teams above them have injured players 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.040 right now, So what are your thoughts. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.720 It just kind of makes right. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.480 Now they're seven, so they're they're a game back from 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.600 Golden State or half a game back, and then they're 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.640 three back from the fifth slot. But the fifth slot 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.600 is Houston. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.920 It looked like the Lakers is going to drop two 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:31.760 when Dallas took yourself out and that one that one 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.640 availability case. Who's in the middle, it's somebody in the middle. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.440 Isn't in the West. When somebody's like forty one, thirty eight, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.280 thirty nine, it's like a forty six, forty and forty seven, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.600 it's got like a It's like Minnesota. I want to say. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.360 The Memphis, Houston is a Golden State are within four 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:49.160 games of each other. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.119 That that's pretty close. 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.120 So four, five six seven somewhere is in the East. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.920 It's four or five six in the East. Basically all 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.560 have identicalrect Yes. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.480 Yes, that's the Okay, that's the East, Okay, think about 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.120 Okay the West. My point is saying is that the 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.160 West got listen, Clippers, James Harden is activated. We can 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.160 get into it later, but it's like three four teams. Dog, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.760 they got some activation where p it ain't a bunch 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.400 of these threes productivity that went up. Is that even 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.280 the word or production has went up, you know what 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.479 I'm saying. And it ain't lot of boys shitting the 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.800 games now, Bro, the games that's cut the fat and 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.960 we're seeing we're seeing the games that have effectiveness to it. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.799 We have we see games where guys coming in giving 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.120 crazy numbers, Joker having crazy stress right now, Shae having 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.159 a crazy stress. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:36.560 Right hold on. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.880 Look, So before we get all into it, So Saturday, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.720 I was watching the uh the okay. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:45.240 See Denver game. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.760 Yeah, and Shaye went off of forty and I was like, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.040 all right, pass down, fami pbation is all my hands down? 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:52.600 You see what Joe? 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.400 I'm just go ahead. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.440 Then come Monday, back to back they play and Joker 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.080 went in the okay see and popped them and had 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.200 a monster game. So and then now I started looking 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.440 at Jokers numbers. So then I'm looking at his numbers 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.960 from his MVP years that he won. Though he's having 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:16.239 the best statistical season that he's ever had right now. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.279 So it ain't hands down, and Denver is number two 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.640 in the West as we. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.640 Sit here today today. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.039 Bro, I don't I don't know, I don't know, Like, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.480 how do you tell a man who's like top he's 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:33.800 like top three in scoring, top number one and rebounding tops. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.200 And steals second. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:40.440 In assists, tops in field goal percentage, tops in three 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.000 point percentage, like top two or three in all these 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.480 statistical statistical categories. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.440 How do you tell me that he's not? How you 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.320 lose the second? 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.200 I don't think he's top three in pretty much every category. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.719 Bro, He's supposed to win. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.680 This, okay, is eleven more wins? Now how you value 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.000 it for the voters? 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.880 He don't have a second All Star? So I mean 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.680 never you know what to be dope to get the criteria, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.880 you know what I'm saying, just to hear, because well 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.479 if the criteria listen to this, now this hang on 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.360 the flips. You know what the criteria is has to 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:16.200 be number one. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.960 Okay, So why were not talking about Donovan Mitchell right now? 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.920 Donald Mitchell? They got the best record in the league. Okay, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.520 keep it real. I'mna keep it one honey. They got 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.039 the best record in the league. They do. Donald Mitchell 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.520 don't play every night, Bro, Docal Mitchell might shit out 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.880 on a Portland game. He might sit out on a Utah. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.360 He might you know, I'm just saying, Bro, these other 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:40.360 guys play. Shane Gilchris play, Uh the plays fucking yo. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.560 Joker plays bro they play when they sit out. It's 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.279 it's random that I see Shade sit out. It's random 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:48.839 that I see Jokers sit out. I think he was 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.200 sick of some ship or have something personal. 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.480 But yeah, for a couple of games, Broo, Yeah, I. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:55.279 Get it, new Lens. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.599 We're looking through it. I get it done in a conversation. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:06:59.760 And he not doing this. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.040 I mean, he's not doing this, but the best record 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:03.599 in the league. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.440 He's not doing what the other two are doing. He 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.039 ain't doing no triple doubles. He killing I give it 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.800 to him. And you know what, we should throw him 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.240 in there. Why Jason Tatum ain't in there? 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.120 Jayson Tatum in there? 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.040 He was in there. I don't hear him no more. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.360 It's just these two. Nobody's doing this. Nobody's giving you 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.920 thirty twenty twenty forty. The man got far six fifty 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.120 point games this year. He got another. He just had 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.520 forty against the so called MVP. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.080 I don't know who. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.000 Nobody's doing this. This is Jedi bro. It's one of 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.040 the closest bro bro, what these two are doing. Nobody 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.280 this is this is a This is a This is 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.120 almost like ob One and God damn Vader going at it. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.880 This is straight up. This is straight up Jedi. This 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.360 is listen, no disrespect to anybody else. That's third, fourth, fifth, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.040 and sixth. Nobody's doing what these two are doing. It's 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.880 there's to win. It's those two doing. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.640 The distance is distance between two and three is a gap. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.240 It's a gap, and three is probably Taytumovan. They the 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.760 first in the East. Lord. If you go about criteria, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:04.600 I mean. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.640 The betting odds for BETHMGM is minus four twenty five 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.240 is SGA plus three, enter Jokich, then the next person 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.720 plus fifty thousand. Basically they're eliminating them as having a chance. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.320 Is Jiannison Tatum tied. So that's what Vegas is saying. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.840 Damn, that's the distance. Listen, jeez. It used to go 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.280 that if you have the best team, the best player 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.640 on there, usually you got a guy on there that's 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.640 having a dope year. That's the guy that usually is 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:35.480 your MVP. That criteria has moved or inched every year. Right, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.360 what p just said about Joker. But we cannot not 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.120 see that. We cannot see. We cannot see. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.400 I've never seen this is the best statistical to win it. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.880 But this is the best stats I've ever seen in 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.760 the history of the game. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.400 This is Jok's best season. He's won three MVPs before. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.080 I've never seen like them since I've been living. Ain't 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.920 nobody in the league did this, Like like Russ averaged 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.240 a triple double right a. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.640 Couple of years and we kind of washed it. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.000 He got MVP the first year, Yeah he did, but 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.760 he did it like two three more times and we 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.240 kind of just like like, get the fuck out of 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.120 Like Russ was like giving you like thirty ten and ten, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.040 which yeah, it was crazy. He was like but he 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.800 like his rebounding was ten and sins. This was at ten. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.880 But he was like probably like fifth or sixth or 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.760 in the league at rebounds and assists. This dude is 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.760 like number one in rebounds, third and scoring something like that. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.959 He's third and scoring, He's third and rebounds and he 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.079 second in assists. Yeah, that's three in the main categories. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.280 Not see that, That's what I'm saying, top three. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.319 That's never been heard. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.760 Shade oh manway that wasn't. He didn't do that, right, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.560 Russ didn't do that. He wasn't top three. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.600 No, No, because rebound he was, as you said, like 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.280 ten on the nose and a lot of guys had thirteen. 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:47.640 Yeah. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.120 Yeah, so top three and the major statistics I think. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.240 Do not overlook this. Ten rebounds for a guard. It's 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.720 very hard. Yeah, him going to get twelve on some nights, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.320 him going to get nine on some nights, him going 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.080 to get fifteen on some nights. You know, he have 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.440 he Listen. It was a point where he was averaging 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:11.880 twelve rebounds for a guard. Yeah, bro, listen, that doesn't happen. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.160 And you gotta always keep that in perspective of where 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.520 where that plays at. He was fining number one rebounding 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.520 guard for like four or five years. That nobody swept. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.160 They just swept under the rug. Bro. It's the reason 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.400 why he keeps getting picked up. It's the reason why 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.400 he has value. No, he's not what we saw him 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.840 as a young buck, but now I think he's more prolific. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.559 I think'sible, he. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.520 Knows how to play. He's with a great cast, and 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.360 no one's talking about Denver, which is even more scary 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 because when you don't put the pressures on on none 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.400 of these teams. They go through and you look up 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.560 at us they at the conference finals. You can't tell 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.280 me a guy averaging twenty eight, twenty nine. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.400 Thirteen and twelve. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.160 Are you mad if joking winners? 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:53.160 Am I mad? 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.640 If? Are you mad if he win it? 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.240 I'm bro not gonna be mad. I'm gonna be like 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.840 if I'm gonna say if he losing, I'm gonna be. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.320 Like, wow, no, the bob is shaye, Bro. Everybody's right now. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:04.880 It's a shame. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.240 Yeah, you know, everybody have a year. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.920 If you just do this, If we just put the 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.320 numbers on the board and we don't put no name, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.199 attach it to it, and. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.080 You look and be like, put the wins there too. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.080 Then you put the wins and you look at it. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.000 You know, you know all you're gonna you're gonna say 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.920 joker like, It'll be like, no name, you see the wins. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.480 He got this many wins a first second, he got 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:27.079 these wins. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.760 You're gonna look and be like, goodness. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.280 Gracious, it's eleven more wins though, I get it. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.600 Goodness gracious, right, I get it. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.480 Like, don't move the gold post then like, if we're 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.880 talking about wins, Donovan's team got most wins in the. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.719 League, He's got one one more than the most wins. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.280 So he got twelve more wins than the Joker. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:46.840 He's twenty four, so then. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:53.480 He that'st If that's the criteria the wins, then you 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.199 have to put Donovan Mitchell in there. You can't just 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.959 say he has eleven more wins than him and say 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.280 he because of these wins. Okay, there's somebody else has 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.280 more wins than him, you know. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:02.760 What I'm saying. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.000 So well, let's he has to be in there, and 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.120 he's not. He's the best player on the best team 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:08.840 in the league. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.200 Okay, So ask a question why he's not in that conversation. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.000 Now, I don't know, because we just consistently moved the 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.760 goal post for whoever we want to. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.400 Man say it, he's not doing that. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.360 But he's the best player on the best team. Talk 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:23.880 about criteria, I got it. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.360 But he's not doing that, whether he Nate just called 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.800 out with with Joker and shape, nobody else is in 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.160 the league doing that. So that's why he's not considered. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.920 And guess what, it's a plan through a player say's three, four, five, six, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.400 seventy or nine. That's not in that conversation. No one's 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.120 doing this. So on top of end, it's a gumbo. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.439 It's all in there in the pot, Bro, it's all 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.280 the wins are part of it, what you're doing. And 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.960 then this is the one thing that's not in the 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.920 pot that we got to take in consideration. Man, when 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.200 you're on the floor, your presence, and when you're on 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.559 the floor in your presence, what does your team look 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.240 like without you listen that part? This is what I'm 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.480 talking about. To me, When Joko goes out the game, 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.319 what does the different luggage look like? 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.720 They look like a playing team. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.240 What does Shade look like? What does what does Okay 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.360 c look like? When Shae goes out. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.520 They look like they can they can still probably be 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.640 one of the top defensive teams. And they still got 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.520 they probably got They got another All Star and Jadabb 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.559 and then if Chet had been playing, he he's potentially 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:25.959 could have. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.439 Been an All Star. They got multiple All Stars. Okay, 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.880 so you're talking like that about Okay see you acting 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.120 like Jamal Murray ain't another All Star. You're acting like Gordonator. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:35.320 I know Gordon's hurt and. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.280 Not all They never made the All Star Game like 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:38.000 Jada made the. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.720 All got that I'm talking about, So Jamal, what's Jamal 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.760 Murray the All Star? I got that, But Jamal Murray 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.400 chopped Liver. He's All Stars, He's a re All Stars. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.439 You said you had Jamal Murray as the first as 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.240 the best guard. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.720 In the league, and one year they won. You said 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.199 that the year they won it. When you win, you. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:54.720 Get all that. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.360 Now you moving gold post, Kim Snap because you didn't 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.520 win it. It's been three years. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.240 I'm talking about. I'm talking about the levels in which 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:02.599 he goes out, in which. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.600 Who would you rather have Jamal Murray or Then. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120 I'm talking about two of the best teams in the 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.680 league being arguably compatible and just a deep. When Shay 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.720 goes out, I'm not seeing that ship look like a 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.640 Reno Ray training that ship. They're looking smooth. And you 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.560 say with Joko Go, I can make the same comparisons 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.360 as what I'm trying to get at and saying that 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.239 when you have two of the best teams. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.800 I think, okay, so he's deeper as far as like 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:27.640 they talent. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.960 Pool, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.280 presence of that player and when he leaves or when 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.600 he plays, and when he does, I. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.520 Think it's a bigger drop without Joker than it is 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.120 without Shay. I think it's a bigger drop. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:37.840 My point. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.280 So, just miss five games this year, they're two and 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.200 three and SGA has missed two games this year they're 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:43.680 one and one. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.960 That's very good sample size. That's reality. My point in 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.680 saying is that Bro, the wins going to it, and 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.160 we can say this and keep it pushing, but the 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.720 Wings going to it. All of this goes into it. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.200 But at the end of the day, presence when you 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.880 got them off on the floor and he's playing and 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.320 he's a being seeing versus when he's not, or you 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.280 got that one, or you got Shae in their planning, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.800 he's doing what he's doing versus when he's not. Who 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.760 has a bigger presence than those two? From the numbers, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.440 they arguably are the same or similar, right, But I 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.040 now watched Denver and when Denver doesn't play with Joker, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.160 they look like a whole other team, versus when Shaye 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.000 is out, they have enough pieces in depth to maybe 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.080 keep that coposthetic and look halfway deep. So that means 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.600 Jokers more Valuans. When I'm saying to you, yeah so, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.520 and that we're saying the same thing. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:35.640 No, I didn't. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:36.640 I didn't hear that. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:37.440 I didn't hear that. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.360 And how you said it's a bigger drop off when 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.240 Joker come out. That's what I was saying. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.560 We're saying the same thing. But you went into depth 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:48.160 with It's all good because you Okay, see is what 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.960 I'm saying. They better than Denver without Shade than they 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.800 are without Denver. You know, okay, see what beat Denver? 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.560 But if they took the two superstars out, who who 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.280 went in that? Okay here beat them? Yeah, no way, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.040 I don't believe that. I don't believe that, bro, you 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.000 like Jamal Murray can't go for forty or fifty. Bro, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.960 I didn't say that. I'm just like that over here 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.560 and that man. Listen, they cancel each other out. J 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.120 Dub and Jamal Murray cancel each other out. Who's your 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.200 third check? Check? Probably gonna die? You got you got 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:26.000 check them dud Jack Wiggins, Isaiah Jones, Little Door, Isaiah Joe, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.080 you got Hardenstein. I mean they got them up like 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.480 they are too much. Man. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.480 But you mean Gordon the Jalen bench whatever you call 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:37.680 the Jalen off the bench. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.800 He's solid. They're good. They got that. I give you that. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.920 But I wouldn't just say that. Bro. There ain't no 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.800 just no walking the park. Bro, That's all I'm saying. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.400 They don't. They don't have the same or they did. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.640 Ye lost a lot of pieces. They lost a lot 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:52.200 of pieces. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.680 You know what I'm saying, Like you Denver, Denver is 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.840 I agree with you the back of Joker, like. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.880 They or teams with aora right now? 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.200 You gotta say, like the Lakers is the only team 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.600 with like major aura. Look at what they got though 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.119 in the West. I'm just talking the West major aura. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.960 Yeah, because you got the presence of Looper, you got 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.040 the presence of bron That's like you're going to the game. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.600 You're looking at that like nobody has that? Yeah, nobody 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.800 got that? No, Like okay, see dudes, aura is starting 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.080 to develop still like this, it ain't there yet. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.160 The Wars ain't got no pres not like this man 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.320 if Yeah, yeah, JJ Redder knows what he's doing. He 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.680 can actually you can get to which comes finals. They 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:35.439 just gotta get healthy. Hey, come to March Madness brun 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.080 out two weeks. Look you see it. Walk up on 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.280 that Stephen Knight? Yeah, what you're doing? Walk up on you? 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.399 If I'm just in the stands, you in the stands 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.520 watching the game, brother, like what you said about something 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:51.080 any player. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.080 If a player walked up on me and was like, hey, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.920 you don't need to be like no, no, no, no, no. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.200 Let's keep it one honding. Let's do it. Hey, hey, nigga, 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.240 keep my fuckers your mom. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.480 And man, first of all, you gotta watch how your tongue. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:10.600 And then he walked off. I mean whatever, I'm a spectator. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.359 I'm gonna be like, uh whatever, dude, like whatever. I 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:15.960 ain't gonna be like I ain't gonna just sit there 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.880 like no, I'm like, yeah, whatever, you know, I'm gonna 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:22.000 give you some reaction. It's gonna be like whatever. You know, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.520 I ain't. I mean, you know, I'm gonna be in 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.720 the moment. So I'm like, damn, I ain't gonna mess 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.240 with a player where they you know, that's that's a violation. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.720 You know what I'm saying. But I think I think 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.639 with me, like I'm different because I'm a former player. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.159 That's something we're gonna probably discuss in the hallway like 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:40.880 and you know, like. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:41.399 He gonna hit me. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.200 They won't even come. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.600