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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. I'm John Schmelke. Paulatino should

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Speaker 1: be with me in a couple of seconds here too.

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Speaker 1: One nine nine four five one three hashtag Giants Chat.

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Speaker 1: I'm here. A little issue with the audio here, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: you're here on your end? Two? Or is that just

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Speaker 1: on me? That's just found my end? Okay to four

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Speaker 1: five one three you can hear me. That's all that matters, Um,

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Speaker 1: talking New York Giants football with you. Um. Obviously we've

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Speaker 1: had three two days of petted practice. Now day three

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Speaker 1: is coming your way today. Uh so that's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: A lot's been going on here at the Quest Agnostics

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Speaker 1: training Center. So Paul is doing an interview for the

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Speaker 1: TV show. He should be in here in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. In the meantime, UM, I will give some

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Speaker 1: of my take some practice of the last few days,

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Speaker 1: and of course if you want to get some in

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Speaker 1: depth on what I've seen, I put my notes and

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Speaker 1: observations from practice every day up on the websites. You

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Speaker 1: can make sure you go and check that out. Over

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Speaker 1: the course of practice, over the course of practice and

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Speaker 1: training camp it shows up on giants dot Com every

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Speaker 1: day anyway. So from petted this, here's what I've seen

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Speaker 1: so far. UM, much like it's been for the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Olivier Vernon is nearly impossible to block

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Speaker 1: and practice. Um. Frankly, he's just really good. UM. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite translate that way to the field on game

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Speaker 1: day a lot of the time. But he's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: He's beating a solder, I've seen him beat a flowers

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Speaker 1: and UM, he's looked fantastic. He was here all during

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Speaker 1: the spring and I think that's paid off a little bit. UM.

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Speaker 1: Stirling Shepherd, to me, has been the best route runner

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Speaker 1: I've seen with the team so far. UM. This summer.

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Speaker 1: One on one, he's been nearly impossible to cover. He's

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Speaker 1: been dominating UM defensive backs left and right. I think

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Speaker 1: he's done a really good job with it. UM, just

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Speaker 1: really tough to cover, especially in the slot. He's given

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Speaker 1: William Gay fits absolute fits covering him in the slot.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's done a wonderful job. UM. Dante

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Speaker 1: Dion out of the slot UM has been the best

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Speaker 1: two or three interceptions. Unfortunately, had to leave midway through

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Speaker 1: practice yesterday with the hand string injury. Um, hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: not serious. It doesn't appear to be that serious, which

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Speaker 1: rather than later. Uh. If you're the New York Football Giants, so, um,

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Speaker 1: when you take a look at it, I think Grant

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Speaker 1: been quite as good as Donte Dion so far, but

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Speaker 1: he's been okay. Um, And when you take a look

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Speaker 1: at it, I think that's the competition between those two

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Speaker 1: Beckham to me has looked as athletic and explosives if

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. He's been a couple of really big plays,

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Speaker 1: I think he's been a pretty good player. Um. Evan

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Speaker 1: red zone run drills. I thought for the most part,

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting from watching the kicks

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Speaker 1: had a really nice day of practice esterday, get out

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Speaker 1: Um John Halapio is still getting more first team reps

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Speaker 1: John Jerry I thought did very well. In the one

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Speaker 1: He went up against Josh Banks, if I recall, and

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Speaker 1: Other position battles, we've seen a different starting safety with

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Speaker 1: But he for the most part has been wide receiver

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Speaker 1: going on? Pal? Hey, what's going on? Sir? How's it

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Speaker 1: going over there. I'm great now and what's going on? Man? Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to call, but you know,

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Speaker 1: But I've been very encouraged. I've been very encouraged down

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Speaker 1: bit on it. I want I want to know about

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Speaker 1: the second tier of offensive alignment behind like Flowers and

425
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 1: if flowers attitude has um did the organization leave like

426
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: a bad taste in his mouth? And um my final question,

427
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I'll go off the airs. If sat Kuman Barkley doesn't

428
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: get Brook of the Year, who do you think, well,

429
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: I'll beat him? All right, thanks taking my call, I

430
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Bob. Let me take this one at the time.

431
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: I'll start with Um Flowers. I don't think it's necessarily

432
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: ever been an attitude problem with him. Um, he's not

433
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 1: the most chatty guy. I get it off the field stuff.

434
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: I get it to me. It's a technique problem. No

435
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 1: one's gonna care if Eric Flowers is a little bit grumpy,

436
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: if he's a hell of a tackle. I mean, nobody's

437
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: gonna care. It's right for offensive line to gottle nasty. Okay, Um,

438
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: Obviously there's some stuff you can and do. I understand that,

439
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: but he's got to get better technique wise, and we

440
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: and he had two reps yesterday in UM one on ones.

441
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: One his technique was good, he stopped cold Romeo car

442
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: on a power rush. And the other one is technique

443
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: wasn't good. He let Cree Martin get his hands inside,

444
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: get that little straight arm, carried him into the backfield

445
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: and spat. Technique He grab, you, didn't punch. And that's

446
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: what we talked about all the time with him. So

447
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's attitude. I think it's it's technique,

448
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: and he hasn't shown the ability to improve that fast enough,

449
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's something he's continuing to work on. UM.

450
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: As for the guys behind them, I think the second

451
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: team offensive line inside is okay. Look John Jerry is

452
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: a solid football player. Brit Jones is a solid football player. Um.

453
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: John Greco has been the leagual a long time. He

454
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: deals what he's doing. He's not gonna kill you either, Okay. Um,

455
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: the the issue is tackled depth, and that's an issue

456
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: around the NFL. There's not a lot of teams with

457
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: multiple guys that can play offensive tackle. All right, So

458
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: is that a concern? Yeah, I think it's a concern.

459
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,479
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair thing. If you're a fan

460
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: to be worried about. You hope these younger guys get better.

461
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: You get backed in the left tackle, you wheelard right tackle.

462
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,239
Speaker 1: He hope those guys continue to improve and get better. Um,

463
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: and we'll see where it goes. And the Giants can always,

464
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, figure things out. But I think don't expect

465
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: any moves to be made until we get into preseason

466
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: games and see the guys in in the game on

467
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: the field against opponents before they make any decisions there.

468
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: And then your last question, I knew I was gonna forget. Oh,

469
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: if Sae Kwon Barko doesn't want Rookie the Year, who

470
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: would win Rookie of the Year. That's right, that's a

471
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: really good question. Rookie of the year. Is that by

472
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: conference or is that by overall? It's offensive defense? Right,

473
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: so the offensive rookie of the year, if I had

474
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Speaker 1: to predict, Okay, let's say, for example, if se Kwon

475
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Speaker 1: doesn't win Offensive Rookie the Year, who else would be

476
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: in the mix? Well, I think you gotta look at

477
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, right, I mean, I think you gotta think

478
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. If he's gonna be the starter in Cleveland,

479
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: when is he gonna take over for Tyrod Taylor? I

480
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, I would not pick Josh Allen and Buffalo.

481
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: I think a sleeper is joshu Osen in Arizona. It

482
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: would not shock me if he's the offensive rookie of

483
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: the Year's got David Johnson, which makes his life a

484
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: lot easier. They added some offensive line, and he's got

485
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald to throw the ball to. Um he's got

486
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: a good offensive mind down there. And you have other

487
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: running backs though, too. I mean Ronald Jones if he

488
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: gets the number one job in Tampa, I think I

489
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: could be a nice little combination. How about Darius Geice

490
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: in Washington. He's he might get double dig to touchdowns

491
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: for them for shot Penny. What if he's at three

492
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: down back in Seattle, that's a possibility. What if d J.

493
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Moore catches eighty bour eighty balls in Carolina? Not impossible.

494
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: But if I had to name a favorite, I don't

495
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: think Donald's gonna start right away for the Jets. By

496
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: the way, if you folks didn't see it, they report

497
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: out there that Donald and Digested he come to a

498
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: contract agreement right before the show, so he will be

499
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: repointing to Camp, which is good to see. I like,

500
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love Sam Donald. I

501
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: think he's a great kid. I'm very impressed by things.

502
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: Gonna be a player. I know he plays for the Jets. Sorry,

503
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: that's just how I feel, and I am am rooting

504
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: for him. Um. I don't think him and Baker are

505
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna start right away. I don't. I don't know if

506
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna give the nod to Rosen over Bradford right

507
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: away either. It's it's hard for me to predict until

508
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: I know which one of those quarterbacks is gonna start

509
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: right away. It's hard for me to predict which one

510
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: to have the favorite to a rookie of the year.

511
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: The running back I'll pick is Ronald Jones as the

512
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: second one after Barkley. I have a good feeling about him.

513
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: And then if I had to pick a quarterback because

514
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: of the weapons around them, I'll go with Josh Rosen.

515
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: Oh Baker. They've just been so firm about Tyrod Taylor

516
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: playing a lot there this year. I don't know, it's

517
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: a good question. So he got me thinking it's a

518
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: good question. Let's a little to get further into camp.

519
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: I know what quarterback's gonna play early, and then I'll

520
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: have a better answer for you, Duke and Queen's he's

521
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: up next? Hi, Duke, Yo? John? What's up? Man? What's buddy?

522
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: I was there on Saturday and I couldn't find you.

523
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: I saw Paul. I had to say I got to

524
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: say what up to Paul? And I was asking where

525
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: you were? Yeah, because yeah, Paul has to be by

526
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: the with the media, which is over there by the fence.

527
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle between the fields,

528
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: like right on the sideline. So that's why you probably

529
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: didn't see me. I was I think Saddie. I was

530
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: wearing the bucket hat. If you saw a guy that

531
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: was wearing like the blue bucket hat is because I'm trying.

532
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to burn. That was me, okay. Um,

533
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get my observations from that day,

534
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: and I of course I have a question, um man.

535
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: Tad Wheeler was a complete let down. I mean, I

536
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to bash too much, and I

537
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: know he's still learning, but I thought that there was

538
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: there was a competition between him and Rick Flowers, and

539
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: after seeing what I saw, he was getting destroyed in

540
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: the second team, not even the first and the second

541
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: team he's getting completely destroyed. I don't even think there's

542
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: there's a challenge. I think Eric Flowers has it. He's

543
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna start without a doubt. And the only way Chad

544
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: He's uh start is if Eric Clowders gets injured. Um.

545
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: I wanted to say that. And of course you can

546
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: get to see back after um Also, the rental Carter

547
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot bigger than I thought he was. I remember,

548
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: like a month ago or two months ago, I was like,

549
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: oh he used to getting weight. Yeah, this dude is huge.

550
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: He's really big. I saw him next to Oz and

551
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, there's not that much difference. The

552
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: only difference really to me was that he's a little

553
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: bit taller, you know, because I think he's six five.

554
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: So he looked great, he played great. Um. And before

555
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: I got to my second question, my first question to

556
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you to follow that up is what do you think

557
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: his stats are gonna be? S projected stats stuff coming season?

558
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: Is uh, boy, that's a good question, um. And it's

559
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of hard to Yeah, it's very hard. I mean,

560
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: I love you, but this way, I think if Carter

561
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: gets five or more sacks, that should be considered an

562
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: extremely successful rookie season. Yeah. Huge, that would be huge.

563
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: And he's coming off the edge two and he's fast.

564
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: I would love for kind of borrowing to uh help

565
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: him out with some of the moves. Man. And I

566
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: know that's yeah right, And and I know that's one

567
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they brought him into sort of

568
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: help Lawrenzo Carter. You know, when you look at like

569
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: the guys that he has around him, they have a

570
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: lot of experience. Man. You have one linebacker that's great

571
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: with the mic communication at Ogletree. Then you have another

572
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: linebacker and who had fourteen sacks and when or something

573
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: like that, or I might be mistaken in a bar

574
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of borrowing. I think Barrowin had fourteen. Yeah, borrowing

575
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: had fourteen. I think o Vis High was twelve and

576
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: a half maybe or eleven and a half. I got

577
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: a double check that exactly. So when you look at

578
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: like what gut him and is trying to do? Man,

579
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to create a beast out of Lawrenzo Carter,

580
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: which you know, I would love for that to happen.

581
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Um always who wanted to say that to the to

582
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: the like an answer to that guys question the last callers,

583
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I think besides Barkley, I think Sony Michelle might have

584
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: a good chance. I forgot about him. I forgot about that.

585
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: The Patriots split their carry so much. I I hesitate

586
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: picking a Patriot running back because they split those carries

587
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: up so much. You know they do do that. But

588
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the weird thing is they never have the greatest running backs.

589
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: I mean, besides Blount, Blount is the beast, But besides Blound,

590
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: they never had the greatest running back. To the running

591
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: backs always did pretty good man. Yeah, of course you

592
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: know you had you had a decent old line. Um

593
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: and and uh my my second question to you is, um,

594
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: oh b J. Did you see him in the bounce

595
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: Back Player the Year and if you could in his

596
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: stats and I'll take it off the here with that,

597
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: thank you, Duke Um. I'll tell you what it is

598
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a very interesting battle for comeback Player of

599
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the Year this year because you have so many guys

600
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: that got hurt last season. Remember the last season, how

601
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: many guys went out with seasoning and the injuries. I'll

602
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: go through him for you if you want, Aaron Rodgers,

603
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: J J. Watt, Odell Beckham Jr. David Johnson. How's four

604
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: right there? So it's gonna be a hell of a

605
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: battle for Comeback Player of the Year. Beckham stats and

606
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: I do a Beckham over under here, I did not Wow,

607
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: let's do that now. I have Eli stats and I

608
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: have Barkley stats for over unders for this year. I

609
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: would like to have Paul here, and I'll run these

610
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: by Paul when he gets in. I Brandon, here's my

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: sounding board here, and I'll ask him what he thinks

612
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: of these numbers. So the way when we try to

613
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: do here is try to figure out good numbers um

614
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: that would represent what we think an average of what

615
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior's numbers would be this year, and then

616
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: we you know, we could figure out whether or not

617
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: the people that calling, or me, Lance and Paul and

618
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: the host or whatever, think that he's gonna go over

619
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: or under what those numbers are. So here's the trick

620
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: for Rhodell Beckham Jr. No one doubts his ability, his

621
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: history and all that stuff, so we know he's gonna

622
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: be really, really good. The question is for me, and

623
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Speaker 1: I think that makes us a little bit difficult, is

624
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: that the Giants now have so many weapons. You wonder

625
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: how many targets he's gonna get as comparative past years.

626
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: For example, in sixteen games in two thousand sixteen, he

627
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: had a hundred and sixty nine targets. That's more than

628
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: ten a game. In two thousand and fifteen he had

629
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Speaker 1: a hundred fifty nine targets in fifteen games, again a

630
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit more than ten a game. So I'm not

631
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna average ten targets a game this year.

632
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna run the bullboard, ta kwant you gonna throw

633
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: the bullboard to see Kwon, you got Shephard, you got Ingram.

634
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get that many targets, so

635
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: I think that's an issue right off the batt Okay,

636
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: so his two catch numbers in his two full season,

637
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out his ninety one catch rookie year.

638
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: He's only in twelve games. He had nineties six catches

639
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: in two thousand, fifteen and fIF teen games at a

640
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: hundred and one in twenty sixteen. I'm gonna put his

641
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: over under for catches in eighteen and ninety five, and

642
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: if you average that out, that's around an average of

643
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: six catches per game over the course of the year.

644
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Um. He had thirteen hundred and

645
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards in two thousand and sixteen, four hundred

646
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: and fifty yards in fifteen. Now, I do think he's

647
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a big, big, big play guy. They're gonna

648
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: try to get to him down the field. I like

649
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they're using him in the slot to

650
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: to mix it up a little bit. I think in

651
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: thirteen maybe well thirteen fifty. Let's go thirteen fifty, just

652
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: because I really think Ingram and Shepard are both gonna

653
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: have more than sixty catches, so it makes it hard.

654
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: UM touchdown twelve is rookie year. Thirteen and fifteen, ten

655
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: in sixteen, and I think ten for touchdowns and still

656
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: a fair over run there. I think that's a good

657
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: number for him. And then obviously yards per catch. I'll

658
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: have to do a quick some quick math hera, because

659
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: I have to take my over runners for catches and

660
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: yards and then turn into the yards per catch. Right,

661
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: that's the only way to do it to make it

662
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: make any sense. So let's see if Odell Beckham Jr.

663
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Has thirteen hundred and fifty receiving yards on ninety five catches,

664
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that would equal fourteen point two yards per catch. And

665
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a good number too. So that's what

666
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: I got for oh b Jive catches, hundred and fifty

667
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: receiving yards, ten touchdowns, fourteen point two yards per catch.

668
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: And again, if he was on a team without a

669
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: lot of other weapons, I think he could have a

670
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: hundred and ten catches for fifteen hundred yards or sixteen

671
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: hundred yards and twelve or thirteen touches. I just think

672
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna spread the ballot a little bit,

673
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: which I think is better for the team. By the way,

674
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: so you see what Paul's take on this is when

675
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: he gets back in here two one four or five

676
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: one there. If he ever gets back in here, maybe

677
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: he's completely abandoned me or forgotten about me. I'm not

678
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: sure what's going on. Uh, we got about twenty five

679
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: minutes left in the show. Folks, again, get on the line.

680
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: I need people to talk to. UM. You have some

681
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: open lines if you want to get in the two

682
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: five one three. David North Carolina will join us next. Hi, Dave,

683
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? What's up? Dave? Um? I'm one

684
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: of those weird guys like Paul that enjoy the actually

685
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: watching the preseason games. I know they're always wanted to

686
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: eliminate them and you know, going back and forth about that,

687
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, I like them. You know, you know, every

688
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: now and then you see some things that end up

689
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: translating into the regular season. I remember when they drafted

690
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Ron Dane to me that preseason, I just saw something

691
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: different in teaching may just you know, of course, now

692
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: I can say that because it's turned into something. But um,

693
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: you know Victor Cruz, you know, we saw him make

694
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: some big plays and turn into something special. So you know,

695
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching it. And one thing I'm really looking

696
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: forward to, Um, this preseason and that kind of interested

697
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: to get your take on it. It just seems like

698
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: the last man, I don't know how many years watching

699
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the Giants first team offense is. I mean, it's hard

700
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: to watch. It has been hard to watch, even that

701
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: third preseason game when they're getting a lot of rests.

702
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it just looks this functional. It looks like

703
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: a mess. And then we'll get people calling in, oh,

704
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it's just preseason, it's just preseason. They'll turn it around.

705
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: They'll turn it around, and in the first two weeks

706
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: of the season they look like garbage. Again. I want

707
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: to see with all these weapons, and granted we won't

708
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: get to see him probably all to that third preseason game,

709
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: but I would love my wish list would be a nice,

710
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: crisp preseason by this first team offense actually able to

711
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: move the ball down the field, get a couple of

712
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: first downs. Um, that's my ultimate wistness for this this preseason,

713
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to. I'll take it off there

714
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and hear you comment, thank you, Dave, and I'll be

715
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: very succinct. I agree one thousand percent. And look, if

716
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: the offense doesn't do great in the preseason, I'm gonna

717
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: be the first one to say, oh, it's just a

718
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: preseasons and overreact, and I think it's a fair thing

719
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: to say. However, you are at solutely right in that

720
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: the offense the last couple of years in the preseason

721
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: has looked really really poor and frankly in practice and

722
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: look that great either. Um, the offense this year, I

723
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: like the structure of a better They haven't hit their

724
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: stride in in practice. I'm hoping when we get out

725
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: there today we'll see the offense make some more consistent plays.

726
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: I've seen defensive back get their hands on footballs wait

727
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: too much for me to be comfortable. But I agree.

728
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: I think it's important for this offense to get into

729
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: a groove, move the football, march up and down down,

730
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: and look like you want them to look in the

731
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: regular season. I think that's really really important. Um, and

732
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm confident it's gonna happen. To be honest with you,

733
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a better system. I think it fits

734
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Eli Manning better and I think it's gonna work. Um. Yeah,

735
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: but I agree. Look, I might gonna quit and panic

736
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: if the offense doesn't look good. No, but I think

737
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: given what we've seen the last couple of years in

738
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: the preseason and what you said right where the offense

739
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: has just looked bah bah for lack of a better term,

740
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: be you want to yeah that man something like that,

741
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: You get it look excited. I'd like to see that too.

742
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you two four or five on three, and

743
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: that's what you call in depth analysis. T In Marylyn,

744
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: He's up x I T. John has been so long

745
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: since I've actually called in. How have you guys been?

746
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm great, see what's happened with you? Pal? I'm happy.

747
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Guess what everyone's talking about Sin Kwan, which he's probably

748
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a spectacular rookie year. I'll picture him and

749
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: having a Joe Morris Night six type season, twenty touchdowns,

750
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: four hundred yards, Call me a dreamer whatever, Yeah it is,

751
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: but hey, you know what you get a phonomenal. I

752
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: mean he just is everyone's talking about O'Dell bounce back season. Yeah,

753
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I hope he does have what you say over ten touchdowns,

754
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: I'll take that. You know who's gonna have a monster season?

755
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Will her nandezesus a season for a rookie lineman. I'm

756
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: telling you he's gonna have it. You know why the

757
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: kid comes in and has a fight with Snacks Harrison.

758
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: That just tells you everything you need to know about

759
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: this kid. So I'm looking forward to him having a

760
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: great rookie season. And by the way, my son did

761
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: not be up there Wednesday to watch practice, taking a

762
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: day off of work to do it. This is the

763
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: first year we didn't get up there for more than

764
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: two practices, Like, we hadn't been to one practice yet.

765
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: So we're taking the day off in the middle of

766
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the week. While I'm taking the day off, he's gonna ride.

767
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: You know, kids, they don't have any responsibilities to eat,

768
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: sleep and play games. So we'll be up there and

769
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: hopefully I get a chance to see you get and

770
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: and everyone else. Look, because you're excited about whoa how

771
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: do you say you're cautiously excited? Oh yeah, well, look

772
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: it's practice, it's the summer. We're not playing yet. Ever,

773
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: everything I am is is cautious at this point. Um,

774
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: but I love the structure of the offense, and you

775
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: can't argue with the weapons in the offense. I don't

776
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: think it's hit, it's stride yet. It hasn't um all

777
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: come together quite yet. Not everything is completely in sync.

778
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: But I think it will get there, and when it

779
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: does get there, I think this offense is gonna be fine.

780
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the offense. I'm all worried about

781
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. So that's kind of

782
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: where I stand to despite what we've seen, a practice

783
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: to pad the first four or five days, right, but cool. Well, look, man,

784
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: heyn and John. I'll see you Wednesday. Man, I have

785
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: a good one, and you too. Take it to hear

786
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: from you. Man two o one. It's safe driving up

787
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: here when you come up here on Wednesday. The practice

788
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: open to the public, by the way, to start on Wednesday.

789
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: David Cranford, he's up next. Hello, David, how are you? John?

790
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy. It's a little night, just getting just

791
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: talk with you. One of the things you say a lot,

792
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: which I just wanted to re emphasize. I think, and

793
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: you're probably giving your comments, agree with this. I think

794
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: if you look across the league and say where is

795
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: there a lack of depth or a problem in terms

796
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: of positions, I think, oh, tackle is probably got to

797
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: be at the top of the list. Absolutely, absolutely right now, Pete.

798
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the hardest position to find in football

799
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: other than a quarterback, is a good starting offensive tackle,

800
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: and it's not close. You see guys that are a

801
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: decent players, you know, getting paid top money, which tells

802
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: you a lot yep. And then I and then I,

803
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: so I think you're right. I think that you know,

804
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that there that we still

805
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, being number two on the waiver wire, I

806
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: think is a definite advantage as as cuts, you know,

807
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: But but even the way it cuts come down, John,

808
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: it's not the old days, right, it's you know, it's

809
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: it's after the last it's the after the fourth game.

810
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, guys can be cut at anytime. I get that,

811
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: But for the big volume of cuts you know you're

812
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: looking at you know you're talking about you know, you're

813
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: talking about maybe bringing a guy in that could be

814
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: a swim tackle at the end um. But Dave, here's

815
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: the thing. Who's letting we just talk about how how

816
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: so many teams don't have good offensive tackles and how

817
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: bad the depth is at that spot. What team is

818
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: going to just start releasing good offensive tackles. If anything,

819
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: they're going to try to trade that player and get

820
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: something back for them because other teams, quite frankly like

821
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the Giants, are so desperate for the offensive tackle. Why

822
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't they try to get something for him before they

823
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: release him, because he'll be in such high demand. So,

824
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: my guests, if any really good tackles, which I don't

825
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: think will happen by the way, do end up on

826
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: the cutting look at the end of August, beginning of September,

827
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of phone calls and they'll end

828
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: up with another team via trade before they ever hit

829
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: the waiver wire. That's my opinion. I don't disagree John

830
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: comment on this though, you know, because I think this

831
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: was one of our problems last year. There were many

832
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But let's just assume for a

833
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: second that the starting five is what we've been seeing

834
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: rolling out there, and Brett Jones is the main backup um,

835
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, So if one of those you know, right guard,

836
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: left guard, center goes down, it looks to me that

837
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: Brett Jones steps in in in any one of those positions,

838
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: or or what they could do to remember how Apeo

839
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: was a guard before he played center, So maybe they

840
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: would put Jones in its center and then move Hallapeo

841
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: in one of the two guard spots. Okay, okay, that's

842
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: also possible. My my point is not super disruptive, you know,

843
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: you know in that in that regard because you bring

844
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: it in and that in your example, a guy that's

845
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of great snaps um at center with

846
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot of experience, and then how appeal with that experience?

847
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: So I like that. The The issue to me is

848
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: that Wheeler ironically is actually he's not really that great

849
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: at either spot, but I think he has for comfort

850
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: playing left tackle than he does right now. He absolutely does.

851
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: You're you're absolutely right, I agree with And so to me,

852
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: the issue is, you know, God forbid and this is

853
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: like please, I don't even want to say the words,

854
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: but you know, Nate Solder goes down, does that become

855
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: a two move, you know, injury in the sense that

856
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: do they sit there and I know fans are gonna

857
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: scream and say, hey, Flowers has got more experience. Do

858
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: we move him to you know? Or or do they say,

859
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: you know what, we keep Eric where he is, trying

860
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: to get the best out of him, and do we

861
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: move Wheeler over there? To me, it's again it's back

862
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: to the same question. It's a good It's a good question, Dave.

863
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: It's a really good question. I don't know the answer.

864
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: By the way, we welcome in Paul to Tino Um.

865
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: They finally managed to to unlock him and fix the

866
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: lock that him trapped inside the tanning booth, and he

867
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: has made his way back over to the BB case.

868
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: I needed help of the fire department, So I'm not

869
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: sure if you caught the question. I think it's a

870
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: really good one from David Cranford. God forbid Nate Solder

871
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: gets hurt? Yes, does Flowers go to left tackle with

872
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: Wheeler at right? Or Wheeler since he has much more

873
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: experience at left tackle? Does he go in a left

874
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: tackle for Solder and your leaf Flowers at the right side.

875
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can answer that today because

876
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I think they still need to see more of both

877
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: of those guys during the preseason. I agree with that answer,

878
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: But if you had to make the call today, what

879
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: would be here. If I had to make the call

880
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: right now, I would probably put flower was at left tackle.

881
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: But if I had to make that call a month

882
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: and a half, two months from now, I might think differently.

883
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: I think John my point that we you and I

884
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: were talking about is as much as the depth concerns me,

885
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: it's gotten a lot of pressed. I think they actually

886
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: have the ability. I think one of the things last year,

887
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: besides a whole lot of other issues, was just the

888
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: fact that once one guy went down, the dominoes of

889
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: Pugh was playing here, and then he was over there,

890
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: and this guy was moving here and this guy was

891
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: moving there. There was very little continuity. It was a

892
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: domino effect. I think they have mainly because of Jones

893
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: being able to step in, whether it's at center or

894
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: at the two guard positions, and the flexibility of Felippio.

895
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, um, I think they and and vitally just

896
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: one last thing on him. You know, I went back

897
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: and looked at the Eagle game that he played right

898
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: guard at and and you know he I can see

899
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: what they're thinking about him at center because in a

900
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: phone and particularly with a bull rush, he was able

901
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: to drop anchor something that and and and played very

902
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: well against Fletcher Cox, you know, who needs no you

903
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: know explanation. You know, I would say that he where

904
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: he struggled was in space and when when Fletcher Cox

905
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: got onto the edge of him, he definitely struggled there,

906
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: but you know which I could see at center. It

907
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: can happen, but it's less of a issue because you're

908
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: you're more square to the to the blockers. So I

909
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: really think that that combination is what they were what

910
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: they're looking for. Good. You remember there's too, David, and

911
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and thanks a lot for the call. We appreciate that.

912
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: The other thing to know too is it's not going

913
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: to be just Wheeler and Jones and your theoretical backup

914
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: offensive one. That's gonna be a third guy. You're gonna

915
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: have eight offensive lineman on theft. Three might even be nine.

916
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a straight up guard there too.

917
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Whether it's John greg Go or John Jerry or somebody

918
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: else I might guess, is that be one of the

919
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: two veterans if I guess now, so Scott? Yeah, it

920
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: could be Tim Scott, right, that's his first name, Tim.

921
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting his first thing. The gentleman came over from

922
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: the panels, long hair. But I believe I believe it's

923
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Tim Scott. Um, I don't have a roster in front

924
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: of me here. I mean recent this is but um,

925
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: either way, you'll have a straight up guard too, so

926
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: you might not have to do the Jones at center

927
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: hal appeal at guard move if you do that type

928
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: of thing as well. Yeah, I agree with you, John.

929
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: I think the important thing to UH to talk about

930
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with this offensive line though, is that

931
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: obviously Chris Scott, it is, Chris. I know something else

932
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: I thought. I wasn't sure. You know, you really want

933
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: to get some kind of chemistry going with these guys.

934
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Their combo blocks their signal calling, their communication. Pat Sherman

935
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: has said to us several times the most important thing

936
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: that the winner at center has to do is communicate properly.

937
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: That's key. Number one said that two days ago. He

938
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: said it multiple times. So that's the most important thing

939
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: for that spot. Now when you're talking about the backup

940
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: left tackle, well again, what I'm talking about with Wheeler

941
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: is the Giants don't know of him really as a

942
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: past protector on the blind side for ELI. They may

943
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: know more about that after watching practice a month or

944
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: two in, which is why potentially they'd like to I

945
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: would think keep continuity and if they could and if

946
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: they had compidence in Wheeler, Let's they did play left

947
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: tackle all year last year though, a little bit. Now,

948
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: he didn't get much game in practice in the training action.

949
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: But my point is that he hasn't played right tackles

950
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: since high school. No, no, but he's been working out

951
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: since the whole off season at right tack. I understand that,

952
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: But he still might be much more comfortable at the

953
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: left side. I would think they would have to have

954
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: some sense of comfort level in him on the left

955
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: side before they pulled Flowers out of the right tackle

956
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: spot again. Which is why I'm telling you my answer

957
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: today is different than the answer I might have in

958
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: five weeks. See, I think the bigger question would be

959
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: based on Wheeler's play. Maybe they just don't have any

960
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: confidence with him on the right side, but they have

961
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: more confidence with him on the left. Either way, I

962
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: think they need more information about Wheeler because, let's face it,

963
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: much like Pat Schirmer and his coaching staff are new here. Uh,

964
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: they don't know enough about the players either. Very early. Um,

965
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: all right, we got four calls, Brandon, let's not screen

966
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: anybody else. Great, we'll take these four and UM. Before

967
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: we get to that, Paul, I want to ask you

968
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: one thing. So somebody called up and requested I do

969
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: over unders for Odell Beckham Jr. Because we did him

970
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: for Barkley and Manning. So I wanted to run these

971
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: by to see if you're okay with it. I'll be quick.

972
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Go Odell Beckham Jr. Catches under I think that's a

973
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: good number, though I'm thinking in the eighties. Well, do

974
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: you think that's way too high then? Because I think

975
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: there there are there are too many passes that can

976
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: go elsewhere. That would be ever six catches a game.

977
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: I think that's to me, that sounds about right. Six

978
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: catches a game. Five catches the game with you at

979
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: eight mid eighties for me is where I think he's

980
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna land and fifty receiving yards. I'm going to go higher.

981
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: But do you think that's a good number. I think

982
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: that's a good number. Ten touchdowns very good number. I'll

983
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: go for twelve, okay? And why fourteen yards per catch?

984
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: Fourteen point two yards? But well, if I go with

985
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: the over on the yardage, I have to go over.

986
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: You have to go that correct. Okay, done? So that's

987
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: going up on the board. Okay, all right, so you

988
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: got four calls, let's do it at two five on

989
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: three Pete and stand Oland. He's up next. Hey, Pete,

990
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: I love when the number four you know, you're really

991
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: looking hot. Unbelievable he goes on vacation to the sun.

992
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: He does. Anyway, Yeah, the Aties, we've got to keep

993
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: up our good looks. Alright, Pies on, what do you got?

994
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: All right? Listen? You know, John, you a segue. You

995
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: know you pretty much answered my question already. Uh, First off,

996
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: what is our cap space right now? It's like eight

997
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: or nine hundred thousand, right, it's it's it's I'm not

998
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna say non existent, but you don't have anything significant

999
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: available to make anything moves right, very small and still fluid.

1000
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: Let's make that very clear right now. You know my

1001
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: question is, um, and John, you just alluded to it

1002
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: with your previous core and you know you were talking

1003
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: about the offensive tackles and you know, I gotta believe

1004
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very thing, I mean, very slim picking

1005
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: saying if anything at the wall, Um, But my question

1006
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: is if we were to release or cut let's say

1007
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: at John Jerry and I'm strong and let's say Lewis

1008
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: with that free up cap bomb, I think it's like

1009
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: it has to be about two million dollars. Yeah, it

1010
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: would be actually a little more than that. But uh,

1011
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, right now, those guys are competing for jobs.

1012
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, release them now would be foolish. But I

1013
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: remember too, some of that money might be needed a

1014
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: lot of times what the cap will do, and the

1015
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: money you have to allocate it doesn't include bonuses guys

1016
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: can make. Some money has to be reserved to pay

1017
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: those bonuses off the end of the year. Two right

1018
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: in the stand and also the rookie grunts us right,

1019
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: the rookie coach already those are done now, yeah, okay,

1020
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, obviously it's very thin, you know,

1021
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: just swim pickings for offensive tackles, and we're school thinking

1022
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: because everybody's with the for offensive tackles and and there

1023
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: are a much better position and we are as far

1024
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: as cap for so I can't imagine anybody being you

1025
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: know significant there a right, here's good here's good news

1026
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: for you. You're talking about guys who might get released

1027
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: and available for pick up. The Giants are number two

1028
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: behind the Browns on the waiver list. Okay, so that

1029
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: means any veteran who is of four year actually has

1030
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: to be less than four years in the league. If

1031
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: he's more than four years in the league, he gets cut.

1032
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: He's an automatic free agent street free agent. But if

1033
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: he is less than four full years in the league,

1034
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: he has to go through waivers, which then means the

1035
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: Browns get the first shot at claiming him and the

1036
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Giants get the second shot. So if there's any tackles

1037
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: or cornerbacks in particular, if those are your places of interest,

1038
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: be aware that the Giants have the second pick in

1039
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: what becomes the waiver drain. This is the point I

1040
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: made that David Cranford. However, tackles are so scarce now.

1041
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Everybody needs a good backup tackle, right everyone. If you're

1042
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: a team and you have a good tackle that you're

1043
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna let go, you want to trade him if you can,

1044
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: if you can. And we've seen the Giants be on

1045
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: the other end of that before they hated Ryan grant Um.

1046
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: They've traded for a punt there, stunt and stuff like

1047
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: that towards the end of him. So, and I said

1048
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: this right before he walked in. If a tackle does

1049
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: change teams right before the season, I think there's a

1050
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: better chance that happens via a trade for a conditional

1051
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: pick than it does over the waiver watch John. That

1052
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. But again, the Giants have to like

1053
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: the fact that they are the should somebody spring free?

1054
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely because I don't. I don't think the Browns are

1055
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: looking for a tackle. Thanks to the call man, I

1056
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. The Browns are looking more for a corner

1057
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: than they are a tackle. Remember that they have they

1058
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: replaced Joe Thomas at the left tackle. Yet who's the

1059
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: left tackle? They got like three guys though they're they're

1060
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: very high on on the depth chart, and then you

1061
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: think that if they go through training camp with those

1062
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: guys at least a couple of weeks, if they like

1063
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: what they see they are I can't remember, but they

1064
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: have guys that they're they're pretty pretty happy with, or

1065
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: at least trying to cultivate, and that's a big deal

1066
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: for Sean Coleman. They're putting I forgot, They're putting Austin

1067
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: Corbett at left tackle. They drafted him. I forgot that.

1068
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: I remember he's I think of him as a guard.

1069
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Put him in left so you know there's a chance

1070
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: a decent tackle. Remember though, he's got to be less

1071
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: than four full years of NFL experience. Four vested years

1072
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: is where the delineation is between free agency and waiver,

1073
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: so the Giants couldn't claim will Betty, you just broke

1074
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: Charlie's heart? Paul, sorry heart? Two oh one nine three.

1075
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones, Wally and DC's up next,

1076
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Hight Wally, Hey, John, Hey, PAULI Man, love you guys,

1077
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: been great with up. I got a quick question, how

1078
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: does playbooks work? Okay, we had a previous coach, Bet mcadood.

1079
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: He brought in his own playbook. Now we've got Pat

1080
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: Shermer who's running his own offensive plays as well as

1081
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. So my question is is is there

1082
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: like a library in every organization where they pick what

1083
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: playbook they want to run? Do they bring their own

1084
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: playbook exactly? How did that work? Wally? I think it's

1085
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: actually a really interest sin question question. And what play

1086
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: coaches will come in and they have their core set

1087
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: of plays that they like and those will go in,

1088
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: and then over the course of the season, they will

1089
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: add and subtract plays out of that book based on

1090
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: what the head coach, the offensive coordinator, and even some

1091
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: of the position coaches can throw some stuff into the

1092
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: mix too, and it will rotate in and out and

1093
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: they'll literally draw the place and they'll put him into

1094
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: a binder and put him into a binder that all

1095
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: the players get to also get input into iPads now,

1096
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: and the players will get those plays in the iPad

1097
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: and that's how they'll put it together. It's not like

1098
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: there's like a big like library shelf with like a

1099
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: bunch of plays and you take them out, but that

1100
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: the coaches will literally design them and like draw them

1101
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: out and that's what goes in the binding. I will

1102
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: tell you what there is. There is an electronic database

1103
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: of every single offensive, defensive, and special teams play that's

1104
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: been running the National Football League. And these coaches have

1105
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: the ability to go into that database and shall we say,

1106
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: borrow and doors steal plays that they have seen other

1107
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: teams run. Well, for example, they would get those plays

1108
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: off the game film though right, well, yeah, they don't

1109
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: get them out of a playbook. They get him off

1110
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: of game film because every play, every play is cataloged

1111
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: in the database. So what you have in a copycat

1112
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: league like the NFL, you will have a bunch of

1113
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: teams who have looked at what the Eagles did with

1114
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: their r p o s last year because they were

1115
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: so successful, and a bunch of teams have gone back,

1116
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: looked up those r p os on the database, watch

1117
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: the tape, diagrammed them and said, you know what, We're

1118
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna steal some of those plays and put them into

1119
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: our player. We would have to read option exactly so

1120
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: that that does happen. But it's a little different than

1121
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: the way you've described it because they don't actually get

1122
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: the physical playbooks so to speak. Okay, okay, I get

1123
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: it as yes and special teams. Okay, all right, thanks,

1124
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: good question. That was nice to be question like that

1125
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: fun below is in New Orleans. Below who's going on? Yeah?

1126
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? I got uh two questions, But

1127
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: first I want to get to the comments. Go ahead, right,

1128
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: be quick, man, We got a few minutes, alright. Uh.

1129
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: First I want to say, uh, the offensive line looked

1130
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: at excellent. I was as sad of this training camp,

1131
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: and I was the offensive line of defensive line was

1132
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: working out right in front of me. The first team

1133
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: was slawless. The second team. I can see why people

1134
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: questioning and Chad Weller because I did see him at

1135
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: the right tackle and I did see uh, the rookie.

1136
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: I forgot his name, Lorenzo Carter him. I did see

1137
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: him go right past him, so that is a concern.

1138
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I can see why everybody's worried. But my two questions,

1139
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: where is the video? I missed it. It happened so

1140
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: fast both plays. Thirdly, Shepherd the very first player one

1141
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: on ones that was on the right side. It was

1142
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: William Gaye. I think, I think so it's possible for him. Yeah,

1143
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: he hit him so quick and so fast, nobody knew

1144
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: what was going on to Sterling Shopper across the ball

1145
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: and was walking in the end zone. Yeah, and below

1146
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: and below that. That's why I said the start of

1147
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: the show. To me, the best receiver that I've seen

1148
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: in practice so far has been Sterling Shepherd. He's made

1149
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of guys look exactly. And the second one

1150
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: was when Olivia Vernon welcome Jonathan Stewart to the Giants.

1151
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: It was a screenplay. H think Eli threw him a

1152
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: screen and Vernon whipped around the pulling the pulling alignement

1153
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: and smacked him in the backfield. I need those two videos.

1154
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll make a lot of those plays during the season.

1155
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: You'll get to see them again, thank you below. All right,

1156
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll take care of how you too, Buddy good, Thanks

1157
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: for calling in, Thanks for coming down to practice. Alright,

1158
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: final call the show or he passed to coach Arfen's

1159
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: going to ask you put the express button on a

1160
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 1: little bit for me. What's up, coach? How I guess

1161
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: I gotta speed it up today. One. I wanted to

1162
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: know how one of my players. I got Bill He's

1163
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: going to be most improved, Eli Apple. I wanted to

1164
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: know how his practice. I wouldn't say he's been a

1165
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: shutdown guy, but he's certainly better. But he certainly has

1166
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: looked better. He's done a really good job um getting

1167
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: his head around and actually locating the ball in the air,

1168
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: something he struggled with in the past. I think he's

1169
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: really improved in that aspect. I've been he's been better

1170
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: than solid. He's I've been very happy with what I've

1171
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: seen from Apples, and I think Coach s Shermer's comments

1172
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: about him being focused and being very happy with his

1173
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: work ethic and being a good teammate, those are probably

1174
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: as important, if not more important, than what we've seen

1175
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: on the field. You're seeing him make plays, you're not

1176
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: seeing any nonsense stuff on the sideline after place. That's

1177
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: that's that's really good to hear. We'll see preseason games.

1178
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to be there this Thursday to see the practice. Definitely. Yeah,

1179
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: man Um. The other thing was with Flowers, Um noticing

1180
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: that you know that times Flowers got his hands on

1181
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: his side. I don't know if they're doing any drills

1182
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: with with anything where it can he can put hold

1183
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: in both hands and put around his neck to keep

1184
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: his hands up. Coach Marvin, Coach Marvin, let me tell

1185
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: you something. I gotta interrupt you. They've been trying to

1186
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: get him to do that for five years, right. I

1187
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: agree with that, But I'm wonder if are they doing

1188
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: any drills? Yes, yes, yes, absolutely something work in progress. Yeah,

1189
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: something for Paul real quick. Um. I met with some

1190
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: coaches last week. They wanted to hear my um how

1191
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: I ran my team up in Boston and happens to

1192
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: head coach happened to be basely resed his son. Yeah,

1193
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: I ever heard that. He was one of my favorite

1194
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: players back in those days. Great guy and long time,

1195
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: very intelligent player with the Giants. He had been a

1196
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: cup of coffee with Dallas. Also played with Tampa Bay

1197
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: terrific safety and wasn't he was one broadcaster busy. He

1198
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: did a lot of work with CBS and NBC. Uh

1199
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 1: and number eight really enjoyed a great guy. Yeah yeah,

1200
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: so yeah. I met with his son Brett last week.

1201
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: So I hope to see you guys Thursday and get

1202
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: to meet your face to face. Hey, we'd love to

1203
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: please do Marvin a thank you. That's coach him. He uh,

1204
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: he brings a lot to the table every time he calls.

1205
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: It's a good call, smart football guy, great guy. Do

1206
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: you have anything you want to add before you say goodbye?

1207
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: You and have a chance to kind of give a

1208
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: speel you kind of just jumped. I know, hey, you

1209
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: know I was The interview by the way, I wasn't

1210
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: good went very well. Please please check out Well. There

1211
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: was a lot of technical issues we had to work through.

1212
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: But Ahmad Bradshaw, the legendary Giants roading back, two time

1213
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: thousand yards Russia, two time Super Bowl champ. He stopped

1214
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: in today. He's going to be part of our m

1215
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: G show which airs tonight at six tonight show six pm.

1216
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, we're looking forward to to talking to him.

1217
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: ID you guys have a lot of fun. David Deal

1218
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: was on set with me, so you can imagine the

1219
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: buy play with those two guys. I simply want to say,

1220
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: this is the third straight day of padded practices, as

1221
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: John has no doubt told you, and I do think

1222
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: to this point, one of the things that I've really noticed,

1223
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: besides the plays that each guy's each guy has made,

1224
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: I've seen focus, I've seen discipline. I have not seen

1225
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: very much sloppiness at all in these practices. First day

1226
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: there were a ton of penalty Since then, it's got

1227
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot better. Yeah, but mistice, not one, not one,

1228
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: which is amazing. I don't think we've seen a fumble either.

1229
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't know not that I've seen. And Coach Schermer

1230
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: said his m O and these things is when somebody

1231
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: makes a mistake, we correct it right away. We go

1232
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: right up to him position coach, teammate, head coach goes

1233
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: right up to the guy, corrects him right away, so

1234
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: we nip it in the butt, we get it fixed

1235
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: for the next time. And I think it's working. It's

1236
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: been very very clean, real quick. You think defense is

1237
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: definitely head of the offense still at this point, right now,

1238
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: although the quarterbacks have looked good, offense hasn't hit. There's

1239
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: stride yet though, No, you agree with that, and well, yeah,

1240
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: and especially because, let's face it, John, there's no tackling,

1241
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: so you're not talking about running between the tackles. You're

1242
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: not talking about Aleshi and Barkley in the run game.

1243
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: Most of the stuff he's done that's gotten using us

1244
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: from the crowd has been the past. Yeah, but I

1245
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: feel like that even the receivers and quarterbacks aren't completely

1246
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: in sync yet. Well, it isn't quite as sharp as

1247
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: you wanted to be. The timing has been great. I

1248
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: think the quarterbacks have thrown the ball better than the

1249
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: receivers have caught it. How about that? Okay, how about that?

1250
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: Can we go anything else? No, let's go. We got practice.

1251
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: See tomorrow. Do you get on John dot com every ry?

1252
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is an off day, by the way, But we'll

1253
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: be here because we will. We'll see that