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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday twenty nine in October in the year of Verloer,

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Speaker 1: This in the United States is underwritten by them. Subversions.

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Speaker 1: jobs apocalypse. Have you ever heard of that?

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Speaker 2: Before? You ever heard of that? Let's go and play it.

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Speaker 5: Target announcing cuts slashing thousands of corporate roles, and their

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Speaker 5: That brings us around to your piece with Mike Allen

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Speaker 6: dramatically slowing hiring or not backfilling jobs when people leave,

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Speaker 6: or considering layoffs specifically because of AI. This should be

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Speaker 6: the only topic that Congress is thinking about and talking about.

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Speaker 6: I don't think most workers realize what's happening. In our piece,

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Speaker 6: we link to this report by Microsoft that was done

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Speaker 6: this summer that shows you all of the tasks and

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Speaker 6: all of the jobs that are most vulnerable. If you're

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Speaker 6: going to school and considering those professions, you've got to

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Speaker 6: be thinking about this. You have to be thinking about

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Speaker 6: how can I do that job if artificial intelligence can

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Speaker 6: do it for free or do it better. In some cases,

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Speaker 6: it can make you a better employee, but it might

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Speaker 6: force you to think about doing something differently. And I

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Speaker 6: don't think politicians are leveling with the American people. They're

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Speaker 6: not talking about the extent of what's going to happen

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Speaker 6: over the next three years. That doesn't mean AI couldn't

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Speaker 6: be a massive boom like other technologies over a long horizon,

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Speaker 6: but in the short term, it's really hard to see

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Speaker 1: Now, that is the most informed show in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Four years because of the great Joe Allen, but very

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Speaker 1: You've got a great article piece up in up in

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Speaker 1: wait a second, or do we have the armaments we

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Speaker 1: you are spend a lot of time on artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: and military use. Can you explain that how important is

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence right now in everything dealing with the conduct

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So, as you know, as we talked about, I'm

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Speaker 7: writing a book about the defense industry that goes all

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Speaker 7: the way back to nineteen thirty two and up through today.

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you when I'm looking at artificial intelligence

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Speaker 7: today in the military realm, it reminds me a lot

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Speaker 7: of the role that aircraft played in the early nineteen forties.

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Speaker 7: What I'm trying to say is that in the early forties,

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Speaker 7: aircraft was this revolutionary technology that was changing the world.

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Speaker 7: We're on the cutting edge of it, and military planners

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Speaker 7: knew the aircraft were going to play a role, an

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Speaker 7: important role in fighting war, but they didn't know exactly how.

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Speaker 7: And that is in my mind all the time right

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Speaker 7: now as I'm out here at you know, visiting with people,

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Speaker 7: interviewing people in the industry, going to arms trade shows.

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Speaker 7: What they know is that AI is an extraordinarily powerful technology.

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Speaker 7: It's already changing the face of war, as you've seen

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Speaker 7: in Ukraine. It has revolutionized how war is fought. And

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Speaker 7: right now you've got a lot of upstart companies and

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Speaker 7: roll shield Ai Palanteer that are starting to harness this

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Speaker 7: technology and use it. Everybody knows it's going to be transformative.

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Speaker 7: Everybody knows it's going to play a central role in

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Speaker 7: the next conflicts should they come. But what's unclear is

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Speaker 7: exactly how this is going to play out. And you know,

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Speaker 7: what we saw with aviation technology is that once the

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Speaker 7: shooting starts, so to speak, it gains a momentum of

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Speaker 7: its own, and the technology is going to get used. However,

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Speaker 7: it needs to be used to win a conflict once

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Speaker 7: it starts. So I guess what I'd say is we

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Speaker 7: are at the early stages of this technology being unleashed

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Speaker 7: in conflict. But everybody who's around it knows that it's

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Speaker 7: going to be transformative. I was talking with a guy

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Speaker 7: who runs a company called shield Ai that is making

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Speaker 7: these networks of autonomous drones, And I mean, it's shocking

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Speaker 7: to talk to people like this. They're saying that the

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Speaker 7: entire force structure that we conceive of with battleships with

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Speaker 7: F thirty five jets, it's not that it's totally obsolete,

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Speaker 7: but it's going to be completely changed when you have

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Speaker 7: armies of autonomous self directing drones, millions of drones that

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Speaker 7: can pilot themselves and kill the enemy that are going

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Speaker 7: to be out on the battlefield. So we know it's

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Speaker 7: going to change everything, but it's at the early stages

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Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 1: We say early stages. Let's talk about the defense of Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: Since Taiwan's ninety miles off of the coast of mainland

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Speaker 1: China and you have the seventh Fleet and kind of

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Speaker 1: carrier battlegroups. Do you think carry and carry strike groups

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Speaker 1: are a relic of the past. Given this new drone warfare,

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Speaker 1: if you send ten thousand drones to just hit a

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Speaker 1: it'd be like Kamikaze right off of Okinawan, like forty five.

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Speaker 1: Are we prepared to fight, particularly fight at sea, this

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Speaker 1: new artificial intelligence warfare?

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Speaker 7: This is what I can say, and to be clear,

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Speaker 7: like I am not a military analyst, I'm just talking

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Speaker 7: to people who are.

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Speaker 8: It's at this moment, it's.

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Speaker 7: Too early to say that the battle carriers, that these

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Speaker 7: things are obsolete. What I can tell you for sure

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Speaker 7: is that there is tremendous concern inside the Pentagon, outside

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Speaker 7: the Pentagon that we're not equipped to handle a large

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Speaker 7: scale conflict in the Straits of Taiwan, for example.

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Speaker 8: And here's what I mean by that.

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Speaker 7: You know, the article you mentioned that went up this

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Speaker 7: week and Political Magazine is really about our munitions. Because

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Speaker 7: what we do know is that any conflict in the

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Speaker 7: Straits of Taiwan will unfold extremely rapidly, almost surely, and

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Speaker 7: it's going to create tremendous demand for these very high

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Speaker 7: end guided missiles, you know, mid range missiles. And there

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Speaker 7: was a war game that's really important that was conducted

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Speaker 7: by the Center for Strategic and International Studies CSIS is

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Speaker 7: this old, pretty well established think tank in DC And

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Speaker 7: what this wargame showed is that the United States would

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Speaker 7: run out of these very important munitions in a matter

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Speaker 7: of weeks and if there was a full scale.

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Speaker 8: Conflict in Taiwan.

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Speaker 7: And what's unclear to us is how quickly the Chinese

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Speaker 7: themselves would run out. Because they keep their missile stocks

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Speaker 7: under lock and key, it's hard to gauge the exact

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Speaker 7: numbers that they have, but as you know, they have

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Speaker 7: tremendous industrial capacity in China. They have the industrial capacity

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Speaker 7: that was the equivalent of what the United States had

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Speaker 7: in nineteen forty that allowed us to win World War Two.

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Speaker 7: And so there's huge concern in the Pentagon that even

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Speaker 7: if we were to have a conflict on the terms

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Speaker 7: as it now exists, like leave AI to the side

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Speaker 7: for a second, with drone swarms and all the rest,

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Speaker 7: that we would run out of munitions in a matter

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Speaker 7: of weeks. And these missiles that we would run out

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Speaker 7: of take years to build, are incredibly sophisticated with these

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Speaker 7: guidance systems and all the rest.

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Speaker 8: These aren't artillery shells.

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Speaker 7: And you know what I've been looking at is the

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Speaker 7: supply chain the United States has to produce these munitions.

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Speaker 7: And again, I'm not trying to dodge a question here,

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Speaker 7: but you know, this is a question separate of AI

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Speaker 7: and how that's going to change it with the drone swarms,

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Speaker 7: and that is a huge question.

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Speaker 2: Mar Yes, hang on, hang on, hang on.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were the greatest industrial power in the world.

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Speaker 1: And every time I look around, we're cutting some deal

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Speaker 1: with the Ukraine. I mean, we're stealing the EU. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: not us, the EU with our wink and a nod.

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Speaker 1: The EU is stealing the Russian people's assets for the

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Speaker 1: first time. It's one of the reasons Gold's been on fire.

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Speaker 1: They're stealing the three hundred and eighty billion dollars to

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Speaker 1: pay basically give it to Ukraine to then Ukraine pay

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Speaker 1: the United States for munitions we're sending I think patriots

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Speaker 1: and fads and everything. You know, he just class cruisers

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Speaker 1: to the Eastern med to defend Israel when netnya, who's

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Speaker 1: trying to trump up this war with the Persians, we're

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Speaker 1: sending munitions everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Is that in your calculate? Is that the reason?

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Speaker 1: Or is it just we just don't have the industrial

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Speaker 1: capacity because we ship that industrial capacity over to China

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Speaker 1: because they have nothing.

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Speaker 2: So is it that we're given the world? You know?

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 1: Palmer Lucky keeps saying, we don't want to be the

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Speaker 1: world's policeman. We want to be the world's gun shop.

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Speaker 1: Want to be the gun shop. You got to be

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Speaker 1: able to produce the guns. Metaphorically, are you saying we

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Speaker 1: can't do that or are we already given our top

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Speaker 1: priority went to Ukraine and went to Israel, Sir.

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Speaker 7: Huge question, So much going on here. Here's what I

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Speaker 7: would say, as we as we do give away these

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Speaker 7: munitions around the world. At this moment, I cannot overstate

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Speaker 7: the level of alarm inside the Pentagon about our reserve

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Speaker 7: of these munitions. For example, you know about the Thad

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Speaker 7: Thhaad batteries that went over to Israel and many Thad

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Speaker 7: interceptors were fired off to protect Israel against the attack

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Speaker 7: from Iran. Every one of those missiles is a tremendous,

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Speaker 7: precious resource.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you this.

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Speaker 7: One of the people I interviewed for this article is

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Speaker 7: an Army colonel who worked for the Joint Chiefs of

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Speaker 7: Staff looking at our defense industrial base and looking at

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Speaker 7: our ability to ramp up production to meet new needs,

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Speaker 7: to keep our own supplies of these munitions in place,

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Speaker 7: and to even increase our supply, and she was tremendously concerned.

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Speaker 7: What I'm telling you now is that for the United

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Speaker 7: States itself, there is a wait time measured in years

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Speaker 7: to get new interceptor missiles to get new mid range missiles,

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Speaker 7: long range missiles, even the stuff we fire from drones

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Speaker 7: or helicopters, like the hellfire missile, which was a bread

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Speaker 7: and butter munition of the War on Terror. There's a

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Speaker 7: two year wait for new healthfire missiles right now. So

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Speaker 7: what we have are these reserve stocks of these munitions,

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Speaker 7: and as they're used in combat around the world right now,

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Speaker 7: we're basically burning down that those reserves we have, as

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Speaker 7: there there was a tremendously long wait time for new reserves.

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Speaker 7: So what I would say is that we've gotten into

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Speaker 7: this position where our defense industrial base is really scrambling

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Speaker 7: to keep up with demand. There is not a giant

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Speaker 7: Ford Knox of these munitions that we can just draw

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Speaker 7: from endlessly at this moment. And as I said, I mean,

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Speaker 7: you're looking at wargames right now that say we would

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Speaker 7: run out of missiles in a matter of weeks, and

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Speaker 7: in some munitions maybe a month or two if there

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Speaker 7: was a full scale conflict in Taiwan. So there really

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Speaker 7: is a lot of concern that we don't have the

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Speaker 7: industrial capacity to produce what we need in the time

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Speaker 7: we would need to get these munitions out into the field.

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Speaker 1: So when Pearl Harbor was attacked, right, that was when Churchill,

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Speaker 1: I think late that night he talked to FDR and

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Speaker 1: he said when he went to bed, it was the

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Speaker 1: first time that he actually believed in his heart of

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Speaker 1: hearts that they were going to survive because the United

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Speaker 1: States was in the war, and the reason was the

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Speaker 1: arsenal democracy, which really was Detroit. Are coming out of

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Speaker 1: Detroit this massive ability to do mass production, industrial scale

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Speaker 1: mass production? Are you telling us in your research for

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Speaker 1: your book you're coming to the conclusion?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I only got a minimum. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I'll wait.

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Speaker 1: And give you some runway on the other side on this,

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Speaker 1: that the Chinese Communist Party, because Wall Street and the

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Speaker 1: corporatist shipped in, the private equity guys and the venture

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Speaker 1: capitalist Sequoia, Capital, Goldman Sachs, all of them shipped our

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Speaker 1: industrial capacity to mainland China, that we're no longer the

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Speaker 1: arsenal democracy. In fact, they are really the arsenal of totalitarianism.

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Speaker 2: Christopher.

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Speaker 7: What I would say is in nineteen forty we were China.

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Speaker 7: We were the world's manu facturing colossus. You talk about Detroit.

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Speaker 7: I just spent about a week in Burbank, California, where

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Speaker 7: Lockheed Aircraft began. That was a manufacturing town where every

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Speaker 7: other employee knew how to take a part and rebuild

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Speaker 7: an engine. Everybody knew the industrial arts intimately, and that's

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Speaker 7: what created the war machine of the nineteen forties. You

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Speaker 7: look at the United States in twenty twenty five. We

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Speaker 7: have de industrialized over decades, really diligently de industrialized, worked

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Speaker 7: really hard to move that capacity overseas, and now we

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Speaker 7: are we're reaping the impact of that.

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Speaker 8: And it's not to.

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Speaker 7: Say the game is over, but we are not what

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Speaker 7: we were in nineteen forty, There's no question about that,

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Speaker 7: and the industry is struggling.

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Speaker 8: To keep up.

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Speaker 1: Christopher just hanging for one second. Short commercial break. Christopher

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Speaker 1: why the audience loves you. I will rant and rave

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Speaker 1: and try to bad you, and you just come back. Well, Steve,

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Speaker 1: let's just look at the facts. Okay, it's so great.

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Speaker 1: That's why Lord's easy money so powerful. And I know

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Speaker 1: this book on the defense industry is going incredible. Talk

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Speaker 1: to me though about let's go rare earths first and

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Speaker 1: then artificial intelligence, because one leads the other.

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Speaker 2: The heavy rare earth.

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, it's a knife to the throat of

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Speaker 1: President Trump as he tries to negotiate, because they understand

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Speaker 1: they get shut the production lines down, the industrial production

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Speaker 1: lines down in four to six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 7: Critically important issue and It's really just another facet of

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Speaker 7: what we've been talking about, which is, you know, military

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Speaker 7: power is intimately intertwined with the power of industrial production.

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Speaker 7: And you know, industrial production goes all the way from

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Speaker 7: the factory floor with well trained factory workers. And by

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Speaker 7: the way, I've got to say, these folks who work

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Speaker 7: in these factories are highly, highly skilled, incredibly well trained people.

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Speaker 7: You know, we think of a factory as punching out

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Speaker 7: metal parts, but these folks are working with micro circuit

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Speaker 7: boards and.

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Speaker 8: All the rest.

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Speaker 7: But that work traces all the way around the world

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Speaker 7: back to rare earth minds, and this is all part

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Speaker 7: of the supply chain. What's so interesting is how there's

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Speaker 7: a great article in the Wall Street Journal last week

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Speaker 7: about how the United States essentially traded away it's capacity

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Speaker 7: to mine rare earth minerals. We sort of got that

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Speaker 7: business off the board because it seemed like, you know,

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Speaker 7: less profitable, and we sort of left that work to China,

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Speaker 7: which really aggressively moved into that space with state run

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Speaker 7: enterprises with a strategic goal that we're seeing play out now.

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Speaker 7: I mean China's move to license the use of rare earth,

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Speaker 7: which essentially kind of unilaterally takes control over who can

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Speaker 7: and cannot use these process rare earths. It's just a

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Speaker 7: tremendous leveraging of the power they've developed by developing this industry.

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Speaker 7: So what does that mean for US? I mean, as

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Speaker 7: you know, it's very well reported. These minerals are used

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Speaker 7: in very specific niche components like special magnets that are

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Speaker 7: in fighter jets, missiles, of course consumer products like cars.

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Speaker 7: But for our concerns, they're just vital components of almost

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Speaker 7: all military hardware, very advanced military hardware.

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Speaker 8: And I mean, I will tell you it's.

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Speaker 7: Not like the defense companies or the Pentagon are just

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Speaker 7: sitting back passively. I was over in the United Air

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Speaker 7: Emirates earlier this year and an executive for Lockheed Martin

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Speaker 7: was talking about the very assertive actions they're taking to

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Speaker 7: try to source these minerals from around the world. They're

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Speaker 7: trying to stockpile reserves of these minerals and the components

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Speaker 7: made from these minerals. So it's not like they're just

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Speaker 7: passively sitting back and letting trying to control it. But

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Speaker 7: it is such an uphill battle. China produces roughly ninety

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Speaker 7: percent of all these rare earth minerals. So what that

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Speaker 7: leaves is these defense companies and others scrambling to work

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Speaker 7: around the edges in that other ten percent of the

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Speaker 7: market or cut deals with China to continue to have

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Speaker 7: access to this.

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Speaker 8: And I just think there's.

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Speaker 7: No doubt about it that it's highlighting a tremendous point

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Speaker 7: of vulnerability in these global supply chains. That kind of

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Speaker 7: echoes back to those moments of the COVID lockdown where

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Speaker 7: we found we could no longer make simple equipment like

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Speaker 7: face masks, and so this is another point of vulnerability

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Speaker 7: in the sort of global supply chain that we've been

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Speaker 7: relying on for decades to produce the defense materials we need.

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Speaker 1: But where we have the commanding heights is in chip

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Speaker 1: advanced chip design and chip production, particularly with our allies

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Speaker 1: in Taiwan. That's why these negotiations are so important, particularly

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Speaker 1: about the Blackwell chip and others. And you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: that warfare is changing right to the massive armies or

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Speaker 1: massive fleets of these self autonomous are autonomous drones. Where

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Speaker 1: do we stand right now, how big a steak is,

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Speaker 1: how high are the stakes about the entire negotiations on chips?

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Speaker 8: Steaks are enormous.

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Speaker 7: As you know, these chips are the backbone of the

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Speaker 7: future of military power. I really do think that that's

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Speaker 7: fair to say, as in the chips have become a

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Speaker 7: bargaining chip. Not to use that kind of cliche, but

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Speaker 7: as you know, you know, when we sell weapons around

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Speaker 7: the world, and by the way, the United States is

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Speaker 7: the world's largest exporder of sophisticated weaponry. We control forty

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Speaker 7: percent of the global market.

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Speaker 8: This isn't a.

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Speaker 7: Market like automobiles or televisions. Every weapons sold. It's sort

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Speaker 7: of like the currency of geopolitics. You give the s

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Speaker 7: important technology to your allies, you withhold it from your opponents.

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Speaker 7: These chips, the Nvidia chips, the chips that apparently Trump

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Speaker 7: is going to be talking about with she these are

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Speaker 7: the foundation. These are the backbone of the future of

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Speaker 7: military power. And as you can see, you know, when

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Speaker 7: Trump was over in the Middle East, he made a

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Speaker 7: deal to export some of these chips to our close ally,

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Speaker 7: the United Arab Emirates. They are rapidly building enormous infrastructure

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Speaker 7: in the United Arab Emirates, in Saudi Arabia, a backbone

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Speaker 7: of compute power based on these chips. So this is

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Speaker 7: sort of the race for establishing the foundational power of

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Speaker 7: AI in the future and the stakes of who does

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Speaker 7: and who doesn't get these chips.

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Speaker 1: It's just enormous, Christopher. And where do people go to

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Speaker 1: get your writings? The Ploco store is amazing. We're going

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Speaker 1: to push it out. We did it the other day.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna push out again. Where do folks go to

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Speaker 1: keep up with all your research and thoughts?

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Speaker 7: All my articles are at Christopher Leonard dot biz. I'll

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Speaker 7: be putting that Politico article up there today hopefully soon,

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Speaker 7: And I'm Cee Leonard News on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Leonard stead a steady Eddy, a safe pair of hands,

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Speaker 1: the lords of easy Money, and new research coming out

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Speaker 1: about the defense industry. Christopher, thank you so much carving

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Speaker 1: out time to do this. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it ironic that we leave with the right stuff?

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Speaker 1: Off a classic novel, The Magnificent film A great Score

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