WEBVTT - 1998 AFC Divisional Round with Keyshawn Johnson | Jaguars vs. Jets 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.960 How is Tyler playing against him? He's physical? Huh, he 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.880 was physical, but I was a physical receiver. Yeah, you're big. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.239 New England fans hated me because I didn't do not 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.799 but talking, and I used to murder New England. I 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.640 used to murder them. That was the worst thing they 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.959 could ever seen coming through the building. No real talk, 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.480 google it. I called Teddy Bruski one time. Oh, right 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.599 at the goal line, down the ground, slam down, he 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.400 shot pop out touchdown freebing against the Patriots. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:28.760 Thank you. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.480 Oh we went up to Fox Borll beat the Peak 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.080 here on Yeah, we beat them bad. Welcome to Games 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.920 with Namies. I'm Julian Edelman. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.320 They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on the mission 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.000 to finding the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:51.520 we are covering the nineteen ninety eight AFC Divisional round 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:57.080 game between the Jaguarars and the Jets with former number 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:04.000 one overall pick, longtime broadcaster and one of the few 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.600 New York Jets to join this show, Keishawn Johnson. And 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.080 we get into talking being a pro athlete in New York. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.319 After the games, all Gluen clubs and party and it 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.399 was just a crazy thing Man, what it's like to 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.320 work with Paul Pierce. I'm going all in. I'm going 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.440 Celtic Pride. I'm going all in and his best Bill 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.600 Parcell and Bill Belichick stories played with both. I don't 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.160 know if you're two thirty five, look like I got 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.520 walnuts in your cheeks. That's my guy, you know. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:41.920 And then we do some NFL contract talk, contract talk, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:48.640 Rock Party, contract talk in this week's Chill Zone, presented 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.920 by CORSL like you Gotta stick around till the very end. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:02:01.560 Games with Names and production of iHeartRadio. January ten, nineteen 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:07.560 ninety nine, Giants Stadium, the Meadowlands, New Jersey. With twenty 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:12.800 seconds left, the Jags trail the Jets thirty four twenty four. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.800 They need a miracle. Purnell lets it fly, but the 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:23.560 ball is intercepted by Keishawn Johnson. This is the mann 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:35.240 is at the Medallands. I'm like, huh, Welcome to Games 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.960 with Names. We have a special guest today to go 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.600 over the nineteen ninety eight AFC Divisional round game between 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:49.440 the Jacksonville Jaguars and those New York Jets with legendary 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:58.160 number one pick usc alum Keishawn Johnson Keishawn in one sentence, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.280 why this game? First of all, what's up? Thanks for 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.600 having me? Yet, let's start there. Why pick this game 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.600 as the game first playoff game boy? 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.399 Did he leave an impact big time? 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:11.400 What were the stats? 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.760 Do it all right? 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.480 And touchdown to touch the interception, fumble recovery, bumble recovery. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.280 Let me let me make sure we get it right 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.360 so we can put some shine on this nine catches, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.000 one hundred and twenty one yards, ten rush yards, two 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.520 touchdowns should have been three. Called him down the one 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.960 on one that was bs an interception in a fumble recovery. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:31.280 I got called down on the one. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.359 Yeah, there was one that top Chris Martin punches like 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.760 it was like a it was like a seam throw 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.600 of some sort in the red area fell down. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.760 Now you got tackled on the one like it was 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.839 you went up for the ball and like I don't 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.440 even remember. See, that's that's when you know. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.480 Now Now, now you now that you told me that. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.320 Next time I talk about this game, So mumble letting 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.800 us say, I should have had three touchdown right, three? Damn? 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.000 I should have had three, should have had three? I 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.160 didn't even Yeah, So yeah, I didn't know that. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:56.480 I didn't. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.040 I don't remember because I really literally have never watched 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.560 the game. Yeah, I mean, I don't even remember watching 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.440 it back to get ready for the AFC Championship game. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.960 I don't remember watching the game. I mean, I see 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.720 the highlights of the game, but not the full game. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.760 You didn't see them very much. I'm just kind of 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:17.680 trying to correlate. Probably divisional round. You take all the 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.719 bad from it and you move on, and you're already 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.760 thinking about, yeah, the next game. You know, that was 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:28.000 my This was my first playoff game, but you know, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.960 I knew I could play. I'm not even worried about it. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.240 I don't know, that's the least of my worry. But 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.279 when you don't have a quarterback, sometimes things don't go 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.839 the way you need to. But I had the hot, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.360 hottest quarterback in the National Football League that year was 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.880 Vinnie testa Verdi, who came in I think it was 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.520 four games into the season. After we binge Glenn Foley, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.480 we brought in Vinnie. Vinnie didn't even play the entire season, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.080 And yeah, I just I don't know. I just treated 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.839 like a normal game. But that's you know that was 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.560 just the way I always was, and it just happened 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.000 to be my first playoff game. He showed up big. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.640 Is this the greatest game of all time? 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:02.599 For me? 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:04.360 Or for in general? 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:06.479 The Super Bowl? 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.000 Is? Ah? Are you talking about the game? It's this game? 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.240 Is this the greatest game of all time? 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:11.760 Football? 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.320 Game? Yeah? But what does that mean? 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:15.840 Though? You know what I mean? 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.920 We give me some context. We ask every everyone, Yeah, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.560 but are your greatest game game of football? Or the 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.479 game we play? We are on a mission definding the 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.440 greatest game in history. This is it football. This is 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.000 it right here? That's right, baby, let's get into it. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.680 So it's only a few people, though Jews, that could 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.760 do this, not many. I don't think anyone has done that. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.679 Play the game I'm gonna play in the game of football. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.360 It's only a few people that want to do it. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.080 Because it's not easy. It's not it's not easy at all. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.200 People don't understand now they thinking, they think, they think 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.840 it is like they don't understand it. It's like, now, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.840 you don't get it. They don't get the funnest part 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.240 is playing the game. They don't understand the preparation, the practice, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.279 how hard that is yeah, yeah, yeah, the practice practice 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.560 was hard. Preparation wasn't as hard as the practice. For me, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.799 preparation was easy. But because I took all the scout 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.200 team reps and my first team reps, it was you know, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.640 I was playing maybe three games in a week. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:17.240 Yeah. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.920 So, and that's why you were prepared for your first 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.120 playoff game, I'm sure. And he balled out right, and 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.120 he bawled out. What's life looking like these days? Kishan? 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.479 Just working man working at Fox after eighteen years at ESPN, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.800 I'm over at FS one, Fox family and enjoying it. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:35.480 Been there now. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.760 This is going to be going on my third year 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.599 in September. So yeah, you know, I'm just ready to go, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:47.120 fired up, ready to just do my damn thing. Take Central, 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.600 Just take Central by Kishan? 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.920 Ruh, why not? Why not? 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.960 So what's the difference between Fox and ESPN? Give me 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.960 some loadown. You know I was at CBS, now I'm 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.560 at The difference is one you had a little mom 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.760 and pop operation. At Fox. I see everybody. It's the 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.640 big big boys upstairs people. I see them every day 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.400 where at ESPN a lot of suits, but at ESPN 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:19.400 such a massive deal. You might see the suits once 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:20.280 every blue moon. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:21.560 I mean, it's just. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.160 The reality of it. And I may run into certain 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.920 talent once every blue moon. Where Fox, I'm seeing people 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.720 saying people all the time, all the time. At the time, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.200 it's just a different operation, really corporate. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:33.720 Here. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.880 You get to be yourself, you get to do your thing, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.520 you get to just it's just they let you do you. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.400 Where ESPN is Disney, so everything is safe, super safe. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.560 It's just an overall just a better better suit for 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.080 me right now in my career where I'm at at Fox. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.720 Then let's say at ESPN, A traveling back and forward. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.240 You know, I was there eighteen years, and so my 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.200 first ten years I did NFL Sunday and Monday and 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.040 I Countdown was the number one show in all the 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.560 pregame shows. Did it for ten years with Boomer and 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.480 TJ and Chris Carter and Mike Dicker, and then I 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.600 left it, and then I started doing the radio here locally. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.960 Then at the same time simultanely said I was doing 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.040 NFL Live and Sports Center and all that, and then 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.680 I switched during the height of the pandemic to going 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.760 and doing the national radio and First Take and NFL Live. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.360 But I had to move to the East Coast in 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.239 New York for like a year and a half because 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.640 they wanted me to do it, and I'm like, nah, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.200 I don't do it. No, I don't want to do it. No, No, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.200 I don't want to do it. Now, yeah, I think 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.240 we might want to do that, because then we decided 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:41.840 to do it. Then my kids get back there and 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.800 within a year they're like, we're going to go home, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.200 so then I can move them back. And then I 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.200 just two weeks there, two weeks here, two weeks their, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.160 two weeks here, and then eventually but they decided, hey, man, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.880 we're giving you all this money we want we need 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.559 some of that back for tax purposes. So they at 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:04.000 the time that they let me go in twenty twenty three, 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.240 they cleaned about I think it was like five billion 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.440 dollars on their books. They wiped out Disney, so anybody 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.520 had contracts, they just ate the contracts and wrote them off. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.080 That year fiscal year. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.559 But they had to pay, so they wind up cashing 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.600 you out. And you know, go ahead, if you want 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.240 to work, you can work, if you don't sit on 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.720 your buns, whatever you want to do. And Fox came 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.960 a calling and then I've been here ever since. Heck, yeah, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.079 they didn't make room for all that money to give 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.400 the McAfee. That's what it sound like. It sound that way, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.640 but I don't necessarily not. I think they could have 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.080 still did the McAfee thing. But it's more about, as 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.080 you know, in the in the world of Wall Street, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.880 diluting something to make it go back up. And that 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.800 was a stock play. It was a Wall Street play, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.920 which is fine. I'm happy with it, right if I'm good, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.080 not a stock guy. But I will take some advice 0:09:55.120 --> 0:10:00.559 from you any day, small mom and pop spot hawks right, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.320 running into everyone, you see talent all the time, you 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.480 see joy. How many times do you argue with Lashawn 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.400 McCoy in the in the green room? Because I do 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.880 it about fourteen to fifteen times a day. If I 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:16.360 see him, we have text conversations. Uh yeah, we have 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.640 more text conversations. But because he's early in the morning, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.439 I'm late in the afternoon. By the time i'm there, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.080 he's gone. But if I happen to be there anytime 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.120 he's there, same deal. I can't get up the stairwell 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.440 without arguing about trying. He tried to uh at the 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.920 Super Bowl. He came on my podcast and uh, he 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.160 was trying to tell me, you know, oh, receivers don't block, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.400 they don't do this, they don't do that. Said mean you, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.760 I don't know who you played with. I said, I don't. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.079 I can cuss, right, yeah all day, say I don't 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.400 know who the fuck you played with. Okay, you got 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.760 me fucked up up. So the internet, you know, the 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.480 internet was crazy. He checked McCoy whatever, and I was like, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.679 you know, you don't get it. Yeah, I know, you 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.760 don't get it. I wasn't blocking DB's and I wasn't 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.320 just cracking ends. Not only was I blocking DB's and 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.840 cracking ends, I was taking linebackers to the trash cans. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.040 You don't get Oh, you ain't doing it. So then 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.400 we had to go get the clips and put them 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.720 in and blasting and there. You know, but that's a sign. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.160 Hey JD, we love you. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.440 And I tell him. I tell him all the time. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:23.400 You know, I'll see the show. I was like, man, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.360 that's a bad uniform you got on. You look about 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.880 one hundred and fifty pounds overweight. But you might want 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.520 to you know, you might want to hear he Man, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.240 I'm going to I'm going to the trailmill right now. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.240 I'm good because you got me going. And he goes 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.400 and goes to the gym, gets on the trail mill, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.400 no wherever he's out, I don't know where he goes 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.400 to the gym when he gets on there, and he'll 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.320 send me the clip letting me know that he's working out. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.880 I'm like, you still look pudgy. I don't understand how 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.199 you can look slim one day and then you look 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.160 like you gained one hundred pounds the next day. You know, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.480 it's it's running backs, always game, lineman always lose. It's 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.280 just that's how it goes. And then I told him, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.320 I said, I told you, I said, man, that hairline, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.440 you're just gonna take that all. You're gonna take it off. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.679 You can't get at a man's hairline getting because he 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.480 got the he got the half moon going got he 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.319 got the Jerry race on the Raiders. Remember the Dreads 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.600 started back here. We just had that conversation about Jerry today. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.199 Matter of fact, Jared, No, we had the guy I 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.320 told Jerry the year we beat them in the Super 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.640 Bowl and we hung out like on a Monday or 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.560 whatever day we got there and I was. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.560 Like, Jerry, what you're doing? 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.679 Man, Like, come on, man, hey, man, come on key. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.400 I'm like, Jerry, you have fifty you know, you just 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.360 let it go. Just stop because it was extensions. It 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.600 wasn't just his hair, it was extensions to it. Yeah, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.000 it just come on, Jerry. Oh, Jerry looked like a lion. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.559 Man. I love it. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.839 I was big Jerry fan, dude. But I mean, you 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.720 got a hairline like you you could say anything. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.960 No, I mean he's pretty good. Yeah, I'm good. I'm straight. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:03.199 Now. Did Paul make it? Yeah, Paul, Paul made it. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:03.800 He made it. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.840 He made it. No, he wore shoes. So what happened? 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.320 So what happened? This is how it all happened. Right 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.439 in January, at the end of the NFL season, the 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.880 Jets was looking for a quarterback, I mean looking for 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.600 head coach, my bat they looking for a head coach. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:25.199 And so I was on the air, and because I 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:31.560 have a I think like the people that I've been around, right, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.840 It's just it's a natural thing. I think like Champagne, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:40.600 I think like Bill Parcells, I think like Belichick. Because 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.000 I've been around them, I get them. I understand how 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:44.840 they going to operate? 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:45.480 Move right. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.480 So I go on the show and they like, who's 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:48.920 gonna be the new head coach of the Jets at 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.920 the I said, I don't know, but I kind of 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.640 figured ag name was coming up, this, that and the other. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.160 So I said, I can promise you off Aaron glenk 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.599 at the job. Brett Farve ain't gonna be on it. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.000 At the quarterback. If Brett fav is the quarterback, Aaron Rodgerson, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.319 I mean, I'm sorry, Brett Farbard Arronds, same shit, same shit, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.480 Aaron Rodgers, I said, If Aaron Rodgers the quarterback, Jules, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:16.720 I say, opening day of twenty twenty five, I will 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.880 walk from my home in Calabasas to the studio. But 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.560 I'm smart enough to know my guy. And Aaron Glen 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.600 gets a job. Now I people think I got something 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.440 from he hadn't gotten a job at this, you know, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.640 And I said it. You know, I know him, and 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.480 I know what I would have done as the head coach, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.880 and I know what parcels and I know Sean Payton, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.320 like I know what they would do to that type 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.960 of personality. Too much distraction, all the all the above, right, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.440 So I said, to him, I said I would walk 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.680 home and they're like, oh, you know, I mean walk 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.760 to the studio and there you're crazy, know and they 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.640 all like, watch, watch you be the start. I said, 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.280 it's not gonna happen. A couple weeks later they cutting, 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.600 so I didn't have to walk. So now, Paul last 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.760 night says on the show, I I didn't prompt him 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.880 to doing it. People are blaming me based on what 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:03.480 I didn't tell you. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:09.080 Unspeak the night before the second game of the Celtics 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.560 Knicks series. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.280 Yes, he says, if we're not gonna lose two in 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.480 a row, if we lose to around, I'm walking from home. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.640 Now Paul lives by me, and I mean walking to 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.760 the studio. Paul lis me. I'm like, you might not 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:20.320 want to do that. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:20.640 Paul. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.600 He's like, no, I'm going all in. I'm going Celtic Pride. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:24.200 I'm going all in. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.800 I said, Man, he might not gonna take the series, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:26.880 not one game. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.720 Now I'm taking one. Said okay, cool, the Celtics lose 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.040 game this hall, I promised you I was walking here tomorrow. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.640 I'm I'm walking here fifteen miles. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.360 So it happened is that we got to that fourth quarter, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.320 and at twenty point, Lead started shrinking and shrinking and 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.520 shrinking and drinking. We texting on the group. I'm like, man, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.520 you might want to think about starting lasening the month. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.000 You know it. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.680 It just kept going, kept going, kept going. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:53.520 What's Paul said? 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:54.640 Is he silent? 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.720 He like, nah, all right? We all right. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.440 Then all of a sudden he's like, man, I'm in 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.400 trouble and he's like, oh ship man, this is bad. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.680 It happened and the social media world went on fire. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.080 They were crazy, and he had to pay it off. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.640 I had to pay it off, and so he started 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.120 paying off at five. But he made it to the 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.160 show today and we did a whole The basic show 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.400 was Boston Celtic's Fall. I can't believe it. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.000 Celtic's got me out there like this. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.960 I tried to tell him not to do it, but 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.400 he was hard hitted, didn't. 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:34.720 Want to listen. I'm gonna bounce back. We're gonna bounce back. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.320 Oh my god. Him on the wall. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.120 I saw him on the walk twice. I saw him 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.800 once closer to the house. Then I went and got 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:50.560 a haircut, got my hair cut up. So now I 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.840 might have been three and a half four hours later, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.560 and then I caught him up in bel Air walking 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.680 down some Povida caught him, gave him some water. But 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.840 then KG caught him earlier, and I think, uh, who 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.840 else called him? Matt Barnes called him, and then a 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.800 bunch of other people called it was it was the 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.240 funniest thing ever. He's got his robe born shoes, and 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:17.600 he came into the He came into the studio drenched. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.160 Got hot today today it got hot, especially when you're 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.880 going over that mountain. Yeah, it was funny that son man. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.480 Paul's funny get in trouble with Paul. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.720 A man of his word. He's a man of his word. Though. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:31.680 Are you worried about these Celtics? 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.520 Not yet? Not yet. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.560 I'm still still You're still. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.480 More one more? One more? 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.679 Yeah, Saturday. Then I'll start worrying one more if they 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.280 lose Saturday. And I'm worried right now, oh too. Twenty 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.840 point leads in two games, better the road, better on 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.680 the road, on the record, reckless season on the road. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.200 But you know they they squadned are two straight twenty twenty. Yeah, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.400 that's hard to do. It's not now though, I feel 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.600 like nowadays it's not. It's it really isn't. But back 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.840 to back, it's hard to do back to back. It's 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.720 hard to do basketball. Man, it's a game of a 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.360 different now. But I like that they're letting them play. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.320 They're letting them play right now because it's the playoff. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.840 It's the playoff, the playoff basketball. We'll be right back 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.760 after this quick break. Let's let's jump into a segment 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.240 where we go back into time around where the game 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:27.120 took place. This game took place January tenth, nineteen ninety nine. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.440 This will be fun and go over pop culture number 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.359 one movie Patch Adams. Which one was that? 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.960 That was Robin Williams. Remember, oh, all. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.119 Right, have you ever by Brandy? I remember Brandy? She 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.960 had the braid, she was cutie. I love Brandy. Honestly, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.200 you remember Brandy? Yeah? 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:43.760 Brand Yeah? 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:50.480 Absolutely? Around this pop culture Sopranos premieres on HBO, Family 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:55.920 Guy on Fox, Varsity Blues Tweeter, You Got Mail in 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.040 a Bugs Life, Shakespeare in Love, all popping off in 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:04.760 the one I've seen and never really watched, the sopranossy 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.680 Na football movie it's football Texas movie too. I'm not Yeah, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.840 football text different it's different big time. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:13.240 Yeah. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.119 So what's it like growing up around here and then 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.920 going to SC. Well, I didn't grow up around here, 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.920 but yes, Los Angeles in LA although I did go 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.760 to Pacific Palisades for one year. It's just you know, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.520 you the hometown hero. I guess if what you want 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.280 to call it, Yeah, I mean you grew I grew 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.080 up literally across the street from the university. That's fucking awesome. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.360 So I originally wasn't going to go to USC. Originally 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.440 was going to Miami, and then Dennis Erickson left. Then 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:46.240 I switched to Washington, and then DJ retired and they 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.040 went on probation, and then John Robinson came back to USC, 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.919 and I was like, I'm staying home because Larry Smith 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.760 was the coach at the time, and he really didn't 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.080 recruit inner city kids from LA. He was a big 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.440 suburbian guy. Prior to that, USC was heavy inner city. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.240 That's when we was bawling and doing everything. And he 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.600 came and he wanted to go to Arizona or somewhere 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.720 in the suburbs, and it just wasn't the same type 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:17.480 of athlete and people from here. That's when Washington, Colorado Nebraska, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.520 Cal all started Washington State. They all became powerhouses for 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.879 a couple of years because they were recruiting here in 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.560 this base. And so when Jr. Got the job, John 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.720 Robinson got fired from the RAMS and came back to USC. 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.920 It wasn't nothing else to talk about. But it's just, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.040 you know, you just know the neighborhoods, you know everything. 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:37.600 I could tell you one thing. I didn't starve to 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.680 death because family's here. I can go right up the 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.480 road get something to eat, and I didn't have to 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.800 worry about those things. It was just you know, childhood 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.600 dream of always wanting to go to USC. Grew up 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.840 literally across the street from them. Did you play baseball? 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.399 I did you know who Mark McGuire is? You know 0:20:55.560 --> 0:21:00.920 Randy Johnson is? You've never met anybody that has pitch 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:06.960 BP to Mark McGuire caught Randy Johnson and warmed up 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.400 Jack del Rio til you met me as a kid? 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.240 Whoa crazy? Oh yeah, that's crazy. 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.480 Yeah, because as a kid, as a kid, as a 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.200 as a teenage kid, and not even yeah, I was 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.160 an early teens, like eleven twelve, so we're across the street. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.479 Grew up across the street from USC. So USC at 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.280 the time was a pretty open campus. You could just 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.520 come and go as you please. And so we was 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:30.960 the rack pack. It was a bunch of us. So 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.600 yould just go and hang out after school and look 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.720 at Marcus Allen and just see all of these guys 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.680 running around round a lot and the whole deal. And 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.800 you know, you became part of the university and the campus, 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.480 believe it or not. Local kids, local kids and local kids, 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.320 so you know all of them. And like my mom 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.680 managed the apartment building that a bunch of SC players 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.480 lived in and we lived in. So back in this 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.000 day you could manage an apartment building and get free 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.399 rent and you just managed. That's my best when did 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.520 and and so now all of a sudden you meet 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.879 these guys and you're going to the games and you 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.960 being a part of their culture and their whole deal. Yeah, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.000 I pitched BP to him, warmed them up, did the 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.920 whole Shit's crazy story to people all the time. How's 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.239 your VP throw? I was fine, he was knocking them 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:19.920 out the park. I'm sure it was like probably big 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.760 ass little toes that weren't you, uh, skinny but tall, tall, 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.280 skinny kid. Yeah, but you know, VP, normal people, I know, 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.399 but still you COMPI Raddy Johnson, Randy Johnson, Yeah, the 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.960 big unit, the big he's a photographer for the NFL sidelines. 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:36.840 Now, oh I didn't know that. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.440 Yeahs and warmed up and warmed up Jack del Rio. 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:43.000 That's crazy. 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.520 Yeah, let's just say, Oh, what. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.680 Was Keishawan Johnson like in nineteen ninety nine rookie year, No, 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.960 not ninety nine, rookie year, third year, ninety six six? 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.040 What was I like? He first playoff game? 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:00.240 I was him? I mean what you mean, mam? 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.359 Ninety nine? Shit, I was living in New York. I 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:07.040 was coming off well, it depends on what ninety eight 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.560 ninety so, I was coming off my first Pro Bowl, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.280 my second Pro Bowl. I was coming off my second 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:16.760 Pro Bowl. Shit, I was toasted the town. Where in 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.440 New York are you living? So I was living in 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.080 Long Island because we were in Long Island practicing. So 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.720 I was living in Long Island. But I also had 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:27.640 a apartment on Park Avenue as well. So hey, when 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.120 you're a number one pick, you know you got two 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.560 home Park Avenue, baby, Yeah, and I had just that's 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.359 just that's just I was kind of married. 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.040 But you know I was married at the time. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.040 I was kind of married. I hate to say it, 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:44.680 but you know, probably probably probably loved my kids, great kids, 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.560 the whole deal. Got a good deal out of that. 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.520 Probably should have been married. Probably got married a little 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.240 too early, you. 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:51.840 Know, twenty two with a lot of money. 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.720 Yeah, living in New York, probably a little too early. 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:55.880 Little that's what I was doing. 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.240 I was in the middle of pop culture, like you said, 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.040 middle of everything that was going on, the East coast, 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.680 West coast rap wars. I was in, you know, seeing 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.639 people that was out there not to be named, but 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.639 having some fun New York and that time had to 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.320 be really fun. That sceneed had to be crazy sane. 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.320 I love New York, New York's fun city. But see, 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.000 we was good through then, good to the point where 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.439 they have been so bad that everything was a plus 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.280 from there anyway, right, I mean, like you think about it, 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.639 I was one and fifteen as a rookie. Prior to that, 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.680 they were two and fourteen. That's how they got me. 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.399 Then we went one in fifteen, Bill came and the 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.840 next year it was an AFC championship game. So it's 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.200 kind of like same t Yeah, one year, what was 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:43.480 the difference coaching. Dude, if you if you knew the 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.760 fucking coaches Richie Cole tight I had like it was 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:52.080 you'd you'd literally jump off a building. I mean it 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.840 was the worst because I was coming from USC and 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.840 so coming from USC toast of the town program Rose B. 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.040 Cotton like we was the. 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.879 Ship winning, like we was winning. 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.280 And I go to a program. 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.800 Our head coach was a guy named Richie koe type. 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:11.800 How he got the job, I have no idea because 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.040 he just got fired from Philadelphia because he was bad. 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.840 You get fired because you're back, just like to do 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.000 that so that they hire a fire coaches literally literally 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.640 and they hires Richie co type. The funniest thing ever, though, 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:29.399 is I'm just watching the culture of the building. So 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.840 we had practice one day and our head coach, you 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.320 know how, they have a couple of fields, a field 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.399 over here, field over here, over here. He's off to 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.360 one of the far fields while we're practicing. He's got 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.400 the brick cell phone. He's just chilling while we're practicing 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.840 on his phone, smoking his cigar. There's no I don't 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.840 know who the hell he's talking to. But this was 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.840 an everyday occurrence this was something that was going on crazy, right, 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.080 that was crazy. It was the wildest thing I've ever seen. 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:57.400 Man. 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:03.240 I was just like, this ain't my rookie year. Literally, 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.080 we did whatever we wanted to do, when we wanted 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.480 to do it, how we wanted to do it, you 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.159 know what I'm saying, And we wanted fifteen and so 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.080 at that point, for me, I really didn't care at 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.359 one fit. I was like, these dudes gonna get fired anyway. 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.920 So we're actually playing the New England Patriots. What one 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.840 game and it's T and T at night and uh I, 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.320 along with a couple of other veteran players, we go 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.520 to the Foxy Lady in uh Providence Road, isan legendary 0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:37.600 spot Providence right for that establishment, but we're staying there. 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.080 We go there on a on a Saturday, I think 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:42.800 it was it was a Saturday, because we're playing on 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:48.840 Sunday night. Saturday. We go there and we leave after bedcheck, 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.280 but we walk right out the front fucking door. 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:52.159 Oh my gosh. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.119 We don't go the side doors. We don't do anything. 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.399 So now we are sitting at the Foxy Lady. Obviously 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.800 there's no class like Vegas, and we're just being young 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.960 kids that don't know any better or whatever. We go back. 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.240 The bus is getting ready to get ready for the game. 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.240 We get back to the hotel. We done missed. We 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:21.680 done missed a pregame meal, the early meeting. We done 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.359 missed all that, right, So we go back in. They 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.879 cubed my room. I'm trying to get dressed. They come 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.399 to my room, like what I was like when I 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.760 was near sleep and I ain't y'all you know I overslept? 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.760 You overslept this long? I said, yeah, mass shit, I 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.560 was tired whatever, you know, the whole deal. 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:35.000 And they're like, no. 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.639 The security said, he's seen y'all leave and da d 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:39.200 and so it was like a whole They was getting 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.840 ready to send me back. But then I'm like, if 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.080 y'all send me back, and it didn't go the way 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.159 y'all say it, when y'all gonna be in trouble, not me, 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.600 and they and then they said, hey, okay, he can stay, and. 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.200 That I played. I wounded up playing the New England 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:53.800 game that night. 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.399 I did, okay. It was in ninety six check it 0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:03.639 out that coach Perso's first game. Because I knew they 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.119 would get ready to fire the other coach already knew that. 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.399 I'm like, they're about to fire coach Parcels comes in 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.480 day one. Is it just completely different? 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:14.360 Oh my god? 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.680 He fired the dude at the front gate that was 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.280 a security guard named Harry. Harry had been like the 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.240 security guard for like however many years older. Guy Bill 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.919 got rid of him immediately. And so one of our 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.960 linebackers named Bobby Houston was a starting linebacker, started for 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.760 the Jet Tunnel Noo four or five years in a row, 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:39.160 solid linebacker, like really good. He told him if he 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.479 wasn't at offseason conditioning, he was gonna get rid of him. 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.640 Dude didn't come offseason condition never played again in the 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.520 National Football League. Cutting never played again the Nation Football League. 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:55.200 So those coaches he started, he started the OTAs it 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.520 used to be, getting you had to get forty days 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.360 over like a I want to say maybe a two 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.880 and a half month period of time. You had to 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.240 get forty days in, and it was like you go 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.520 a week, maybe two weeks, you're off, then you come 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.360 back a week, maybe off a week, you know that 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:16.320 sort of deal. And so when he came, obviously I 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.600 was one of the targets, right, oh, he call was 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.560 one of the targets. So he called my agent, d 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.360 do this that. And so I'm like, well, it's paying 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.720 on the fucking with all that shit, man, you know. 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:31.920 And so now my agent go, well, he say, if 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.800 you don't come, da da da, I said, man, what 0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.640 shit man. I want to be at home my family. 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.440 I can do the same thing here. He goes, you 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.480 tell him it's how he talks. He goes, you tell 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.920 him if he's not here on this such and such 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.640 a date, it'd be the worst mistake he ever made. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:49.360 So I go. 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.480 I go, right, So now at this point, I'm probably 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.720 a little overweight. You know, I'm probably a little overweight, 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.840 and I'm probably two twenty five ish somewhere in there. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:01.960 He goes, I sit down in his room. 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.080 I go in there. I'm in his room. 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.160 He's got a dark room. He's got one little light on. 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.760 Like my feel like like you just said. He's sitting 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.800 there and we're talking. He goes, how much did you weigh? 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.440 I said, shit, I think I'm about two twenty five ish. 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.280 He goes, what was that guy in the rose bowl? 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:26.680 So I think I was probably two ten maybe. He goes, 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.960 that's the guy I want, I said, Okay, cool, no problem. 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:34.840 So now I go home, I come back, go through 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.200 the whole offseason condition and I'm two o eight, right, 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.000 so I'm looking crazy to him. I'm fucking you know. 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.200 So now all of a sudden, that's all I needed. 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.080 I'm made man now for the rest of my life. 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.800 He got me for the rest of my life because 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.600 I did everything he asked me to do. You see 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.720 what I'm saying. Yeah, he asked me to do something 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.240 for him. I did it like that. And now you 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.040 could say, you couldn't say one bad word about me 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.400 in front of him. You're gonna You're gonna catch hell. Yeah, 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.360 you know what I'm saying. And so that's how I 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:12.640 changed like that, and he's a he After my second year, 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.000 after my first year with him in ninety seven, although 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:19.360 I'm on a rookie contract, he tried to rip my 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:24.200 contract up, but uh but the management council with the 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:25.280 NFL wouldn't allow it. 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:26.920 They we did the deal. We did. 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.480 He was getting ready to make me at that time 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.080 in ninety seven, I hadn't even done shit. I hadn 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.760 fucking sixty five catches up. He was gonna make me 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.640 the highest one of the highest paid receivers in the 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.760 NFL at the time. We did the deal and everything, 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.400 they sent it to management council. The management council didn't 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.280 want to set a president, so they didn't approve it. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.920 That's how our trust and our loyalty became a bomb 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:47.720 like it is now. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:48.160 Wow. 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:53.080 Yeah, so you gained parcels trust through cutting your weight. Yeah, 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.840 and then from that day on because you did it. 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.440 Even to this day. I just talked to him the 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.959 other day. He goes, what's the number. I said, shit, man, 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.400 I don't know. I'm probably two thirty five or something. 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.600 You know, I just slipping down a little baby. He goes, yeah, 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.479 you look good, but I don't know if you're two 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.600 thirty five, look like you got walnuts in your cheeks. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:13.120 I was like, no, I'm good. 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.520 I was like, I'm good, Coach, I really, you know. 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.480 He said, well, you're doing good, son. You just keep 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.720 doing what you're doing. Man, I'm proud of you because 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:21.240 that's my guy. 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:21.600 Yeah. 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:26.040 That's kind of you know when I said all the time. 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.360 You know, when you're around a guy for a long time, 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.960 that changes you. Like I was around Belichick. It becomes 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:38.040 like a fatherly figure even though like we didn't have 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.040 that kind of relationship. See, I had a crazy relationship 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.760 with Parce Hills. I was the teacher's pet. Now I 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:49.520 was Bill when Belchi when you were there, he was cool, 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:50.360 but he wasn't the boss. 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.040 He wasn't the boss. But he was the boss. 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.280 But he wasn't the boss. He was the boss on 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.160 one side of the ball. He was a boss on 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.880 the other side of the ball. And so I used 0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.680 to take reps on both the ball, right, so because 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.600 of the scout team, and I would go on defense 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.440 and play safety and do some stuff there. As you notice, 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.920 I got an interception in the games, right, so you know. 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.640 But he was cool, like I went to I used 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.160 to go to the met games with Belichick. 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:15.200 Do chick was cool. 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.680 He was he just was Belichick. It wasn't the boss yet, 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.960 it wasn't the boss. But the crazy shit is this 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.400 is how I knew, like when y'all really start getting 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.640 down and winning and doing the whole world. Even before 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.960 you that I knew him as a head coach was 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.520 good uncle fucking Nobody say whether he cheated, didn't cheat, 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.240 airb Gate, no gate, whatever, I knew he was good 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.000 based on preparation. So I was part. I was a 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.640 safety of the two minute drill, which on the back end, 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.760 so let's call it the one minute. We would go 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.560 every Friday to Friday. Every Friday after we do our 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.640 walks or whatever, since you know I used to walk through, 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:52.080 I would have to meet with him, just me and him, 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:56.080 one on one. I'm probably watching cut ups from twenty 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.480 years ago, that offensive coordinator. I don't care that these 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.160 dudes are dead now, you know, but you got me 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.880 literally watching the same thing. Look, it's a three point 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:07.760 one and here's what they're gonna do. This is like 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.799 six year old video. This isn't four game videos. Six. 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.759 Then we get and I'm with him literally probably an 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.719 hour and a half watching four plays because it was 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.919 so attention to detail. But I wind up getting interceptions 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.759 and because of them, so knowing where I should be 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:24.680 with all that sort of stuff. That's how I knew 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:25.640 he was good as a coach. 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.239 And what another thing that he does, well, I think 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.320 he can take complex shit and simplify it for an athlete. 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.400 Yeah, absolutely, he can give you a key. Hey, just 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.080 worry about these three things. Yeah, if you burnt on 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.279 something else, it's my fault. You're not good. What he 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.239 used to tell you said, I don't give a shit. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:45.480 What where you go? 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.920 Whatever? If I ever play against you, You're never gonna 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.759 catch a pass. We're gonna double nineteen. That's it. I 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:52.239 don't care. 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:54.040 Did he get it when he left. 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.960 No, because I only played in New England one time 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.479 in the preseason and I might have had one catch 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.600 and it was whatever, and I got out the game. 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:02.880 We never got a chance to play against New England. 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.200 And when I was playing, Brian Flores used to say 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.440 that to me when he was our DC. Then he 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.640 went to Miami. He literally doubled me every fucking play 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:16.359 had I had one catch that whole game. But when 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.920 I did play against the Jets, which is a carryover 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.560 with al Gronim and that Belichick had left, but Al 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.600 grow was still there and that was all part of 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.680 the same team, he won catch one yard. When we 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.600 played in Tampa game four or five of that season, 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.719 I had one catch, one yard. It was a fucking 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.640 shovel pass. Everywhere I went, Brian Cox lined up over me, 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.120 Aaron Glenn was over the top of him, or or 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.360 Marcus Coleman was on me Or and Aaron Glen was 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.279 over the top of him with Victor Green over it 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.319 was like, dude, seriously, like come on, let me breathe. Yeah, 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.120 I had one catch, one yard. That might not be 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.279 the worst game I ever had, because I had the 0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.160 one in Buffalo where I had nine attempts one catch. 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.480 The bass stuck in my face my rookie year because 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:04.160 it was so cold. 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:05.359 Dude. 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.640 Yeah, I remember that exact same thing too. And ours 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.920 was a week seventeen game. I wasn't even supposed to 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.840 play because I was a little banged up and we 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.799 were already thinking we were gonna. 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.920 Win this game and clinch the playoff spot and whatever. 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.239 Halfway through the second quarter, like I don't gonna get 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:27.680 it in Oh fuck, you know, everybody said, getting gloved 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.160 up and shit hit by everyone. 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.960 Contact every play guy over here. Guy, it's the same. 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.520 But Parcels was a guy man, He just he just 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.000 got it. He knew what time it was, you know 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.040 what I'm saying. He was the reason I actually a 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.759 real reason, one of the main reasons I retired when 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.840 I did, because I left probably five years on the table. 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.760 But like he told me, you look at the assembly 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.680 line the guys that you came in the league with 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.280 they're getting off and there's new guys like, for instance, 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:56.600 Julian Lleman, that's getting. 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.759 Off young ones. What do you what are you doing? 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.479 Are you know one Championshi, You've made tons of months 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.000 like what are you chasing? And that told me says, Okay, 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.120 it makes a lot of sense. 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:08.440 What am I chasing? 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.279 Let me go ahead and go into TV. That's why 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.440 I went to ESPN because him and I went to 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:17.400 ESPN together. Then he left the next year, he left 0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.120 and went to Miami to become the president of the team, 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.520 and him and I talked about me becoming the general manager, 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.400 but it would be economic suicide based on TV, and 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.600 I wouldn't have been the first black general manager. So 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.239 it was kind of like I said, man, you know what, 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:32.520 I'm stay in TV. 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:33.000 I'm good. 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:37.120 He wanted me to come back and play and play 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.279 along with Ted Gin Junior and all these dudes and 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.279 also be part of the front office. And I was like, 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.880 I went down, did the visit, did the whole thing, 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.000 and I just said, Nah, you know what, I'm good. 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.640 I'm gonna stay on TV. I think I'm gonna be 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.600 all right. It's it's nice when you wake up after 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.560 work and you're not hurt, you're not sore. Yeah, because 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.719 the older you get, regardless of everyone would anyone wants 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.439 to say, how freak about when you're thirty three years old, 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:04.439 thirty four years old? 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:06.200 They hurt? 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.040 But see, I was a I get bored fast, right. 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.120 It ain't even wasn't even the injuries because I've never 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.320 really been injured, right, it was just being bored sitting 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.080 there listening to him talk to him about bunch ride 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:19.480 two hundred jets smoke. 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.640 I don't want to fucking hear that. Show what that is? 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:22.239 Same shit. 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.040 I don't want to look there, and I don't need 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.560 that talk to him, but you're talking to me. I 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:28.520 gotta sit in the room. 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:29.600 I don't want to do that. 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:30.560 Let me just rest. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.719 That's what Randy Moss used to say. I don't say 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.279 chatty l. These fucking meetings are gonna retire me. It's 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.839 like the widest thing when you played in the league 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.080 a long time. There's only so much shit you can learn. 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.360 How much am I gonna see? Oh he's got inside leverage, 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.200 here's what he gonna do. I know what he's gonna do. 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.359 How many times offensive line coach gonna yell inside out, 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:52.600 inside out? Yep? 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.560 How many times you can hear that inside out hip 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.200 to hip on a fucking double team. I'm not even alignment. 0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.680 I know that because I heard it so much. 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.800 Hip the hip, hip the hip inside, get up on 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.560 the second level, scraping over the top. Make sure you 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.920 stay inside out. Don't let him force you like man, 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:10.279 I don't look talk to him. 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.319 It's a lot, though, it is, It really is. People 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.040 don't realize that about pro sport, pro football. It's it's 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.799 like you're in school. You only practice two hours. You're 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.600 only outside for two hours. Everything else is fucking preparation. 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.800 There's all the eggs in one basket. You only have 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.440 seventeen games. So these coaches, they're fucking crazy and they 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:30.560 prepare for everything. 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.319 I used to tell Bill because we we lit. Y'all 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.920 may have did it in uh New England. I don't know, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.400 but we would practice on fucking Christmas or practice on Thanksgiving. 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.560 It we wouldn't have meetings after that was the nice thing. 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.440 But dude, we want to go home. We have families. 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.680 Just because you don't want to tell us said, just 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:48.879 because you don't want to be home with your wife. 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.320 Don't mean I don't want to be home with my family. 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.200 Like seriously, what does say to you, Well, you just 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.200 worry about Ty lowd you know some shit like that. 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.640 You know something like do you just worry about Ty Law? 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.000 You got the tie law flew this week. I know 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.000 because at one time I did play this New Dan. 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.160 I had like one hundred and it's probably like one 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.080 hundred and four hundred and five was fucked up. I 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.719 was toe up and uh, you know the media blah 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.799 blah blah. He shining in practice, he got the tie 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:15.279 law flew. 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.600 The fuck I'm getting me to die talking about. 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.200 How is thy line playing against him? He's physical? 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.759 Huh, he was physical, but I was. 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.480 A physical receiver. You're a big It was great. New 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.920 England fans hated me because I didn't do nothing to 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.560 talk shit and I just murdered New England. I used 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.319 to murder them. That was the worst thing they could 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:39.239 ever seen coming through the building. No real talk google it. 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.480 Ty was like one of my one of my good 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:48.600 friends that probably shouldn't have been a good friend being 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:54.759 an opponent. So one time I run a jab one 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.200 forty four x post play action boom. So I sell 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.880 the all the out yeah to back to the post 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.000 the ball and he hits me. He tackles me, but 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.680 he helps me up in the fucking new ingid you know, 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.520 fucking I said something about you plug and playing your 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:14.239 dad and everybody went crazy's going on the fuck? I 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.920 didn't do anything. I just said, these a nice receiver, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.400 the best one that they've had, plug and play. But anyway, 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.400 the whole whatever, that radio station is up there. They 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.560 went crazy. So yeah, ty Law helps me and the 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.279 people went crazy, Oh, he's kicking your ass. And because 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.040 we beat him in whatever, he's like, he's kicking your 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.520 ass and you're helping him up off the fucking ground. 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.680 This is not you know, New England football. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.800 Like, dude, what are you talking about? 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.839 Like I helped him up. He's a friend of mine. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.080 Were playing in Pro Bowls together. We were Pro Bowl 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.680 MVPs together, like stop. But it's just a crazy thing. 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.320 But he was real, you know, he was physical and 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.000 good though he was a good He was one of 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.719 the better. Obviously he's a Hall of Famer, but he 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.279 was one of different when y'all played than when we 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.000 played even though you called us on the back end, 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:02.040 tail end of our careers. The cornerbacks, in my opinion, 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.359 were way better when I was playing than they are 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:10.279 like now, because it was true travel man the man corners. Yeah, 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.839 it was just nowadays it's zone. He's got one guy 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.000 who's really good at the corner, but he's got a 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.040 and you got three receives. I got to pick a receiver, 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.120 where then it was three corners. It was I mean 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.520 three receivers. It was three corners that could just go 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:26.960 no matter what I mean, you know what I'm saying. No, 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.360 I I agree a little bit with that. There was 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.120 a lot more man. 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:31.520 It's way more man. 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.680 So like there's only in my generation. The only really 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.880 guy that did it was Reeves probably did it. Revs 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.160 is the only guy that would follow that travel. Yeah, 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.960 he would followed guys because see you called tie at 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.680 the end, but that was you know, that's old tie. 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.920 And you know what I'm saying, baby was older. He 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:50.440 was older. 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:56.799 Yeah, But the game also changed because the rules won two, 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.440 A lot of these people went to this we call 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.080 it the ceat six, which is like a match zone 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:08.120 where these corners they had like the Sherman, the Sherman defense, Yeah, 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.520 where they had these long ass corners where they play 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.399 off and they play with their eyes in the back 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.400 of the can break because they have helper and they 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.719 really but it's it's like a man match. Yeah, so 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.520 the game kind of changed. You know, no one's hitting 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.280 anyone anymore. 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.880 It's it's I would. 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.719 Agree with Tyde with Field though, yeah, Chap with all 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.600 them dudes with Field. But then back in them days though, 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:31.120 and I hate to say back in the day because 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.640 it sounds like it's like fifty five years ago, but 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.880 I remember we're playing Kansas City. Kansas City was one 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.320 of my worst outputs to uh. They got three corners. 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.160 They had this guy named Dale Carter who was could 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.360 have been the best corner ever in the history, but 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.479 he just was dell. Uh. And then they had James 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.359 Hasty's Hastys was as big as me. And they had 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:55.400 a guy named Mighty Mouse that was probably half your size. 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.640 The physical quick, No, he just was quick. So when 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.080 I broke the huddle, so all week long, we're game 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.799 planning for me to get deal Carter because Dale Carter 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.480 was long. He was six' two and he was you, 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.879 know a freaking nature and athletic and the whole. Deal 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.680 all week, long were thinking we getting Del. Carter so 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.600 we go To Kansas. City we break the huddle first 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.480 AND i looked And hastys is going with my, fuck 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.440 let's see now the fuck it's just getting ready to 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:28.800 be ugly because he was so big and, strong physical and. 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:29.360 Good he was. 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.799 Good Brandon, brown it was so. GOOD i was over, 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.560 there chicken, fight. MAN i got so frustrated in the 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.600 game THAT i called. IT i caused a pick. Six 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.759 the damn the cost us the game BECAUSE i couldn't get. 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:43.719 OPEN i just. 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:44.279 Could it was. 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.520 RAINING i couldn't get. Open so we in a three 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.440 BY i think it was. It it was an empty empty. 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.560 Left that's, right it was empty left seventy four shout 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.600 tosser a seventy five. YEARS i was in the three by. 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.440 TWO i was the middle. Guy so we went one. 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.759 TWO i was the middle. GUY i don't remember who's 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.880 on the out out that chills versus, Two SO i 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.840 BUT i, did you're in the. Shout, No i'm on 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:15.000 The tosster's, slant so slant boom. Shout so Now corebet 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.080 was the Was corbett the third guy a three slot 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.120 running the ten yard shout. Route he was over there 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:22.360 with us on. It he was on the he was 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.400 on the slat. Side but WHAT i did IS i 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.080 crossed face in front instead of, going, no you went. 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.160 BEHIND i went behind instead of in, front always go in. 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.000 FRONT i went. Behind because that's the first time and 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:35.719 the last time that's ever. Happened the first time and 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.480 the last. Time vine tests already dark custom pick six 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.319 going the other. Way we damned to lose the, game 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:44.320 BUT i was SO i couldn't get. OPEN i fucking go. 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:48.640 Behind Donnie edward was, jumped falls off Of, couebette and 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.359 THEN i fell off Of. Corbett picked six the other, 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.480 Way and when it, HAPPENED i just was, like holy, 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.759 FUCK i just lost the. Game dog cuss me. 0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:59.600 Out you, know you fucked, up. 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.200 DUDE i never did it, again never had that issue. 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:06.160 Again but It's football's, fun you. Know did you always 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.279 remember your first dog custs on the tosser and that 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.440 getting across the face BECAUSE i NEVER i was always 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.600 the outside. Guy the last guy was the third. Guy, 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.680 well they're probably trying to get, you and then we're 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.200 trying your. Decors many Times i've been. Decoyed so, yeah 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.440 because if you're crossing face and trying to open up 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.920 that every cross cross behind AND i FUCKING i don't 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:26.759 know what made me go. 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.600 Behind you know how many times we? RAN i, mean 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.120 it's so funny to hear shout. Tosster that's our offense. 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.640 Too it's coming from seventy five shot tosser empty, right, 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:41.400 uh semis eighty, Two semi eighty, Three semi called it 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:46.080 seam thirty, five ride thirty, five base thirty, four base 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.960 thirty four and then one thirty four would be the 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.960 action one thirty four protect max protect one thirty four x. 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:56.359 Curl you'd have a two man route concept maybe one 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.480 if it's the same offense two act or double TIGHT. 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:00.839 X we used called number New. 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.759 York it was like our thirteen personnel were to be 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.000 only be one receiver everyone Else New york. Personnel, Yeah New, 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:06.880 york and that. 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:07.600 Would be like a key. 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.239 Shot that was what was what was the other? One? 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:09.880 Was New york was? 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:10.840 One but what was the one with THE? 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.640 Z New york was The New york was the ex and, 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.480 uh it was the other one was gonna kill. Me 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.520 it was the other one though it was the same. 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:22.120 Thing it, was was? It but it was a z 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.400 tight z we used to call. It it might have 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.680 been too TIGHT. Z BUT i did. BOTH i did, both. 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.560 YEA i was basically, YEAH i was the big. Dude 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.040 SO i had to put the hand in the, ground 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:33.560 come in like a fake tied. 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:34.160 IN i Caught. 0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.160 TEDDY i Called Teddy bruski one, time Old ship right 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.160 at the goal, line down on the, ground slammed. Down 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.319 he fucking shot pop out touchdown freebie against The. Patriots thank, 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:48.239 you old, ship Old. Ship and SO i go to 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.120 the stands AND i give the throat. Slash they outlawed 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.080 that BECAUSE i gave the throat. Slash but this was 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.040 at the, time but that probably wasn't. GOOD i did 0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.120 to Do why what was going? ON i think we 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:03.000 were coming off we were coming out of the whole OLD. J, 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.919 simmons the whole. 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:06.239 Deal, Yeah So. 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.600 Brett farv had did it that same. Week farv did 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.239 it that same, week AND i did it that same. 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.160 Week in the league was, like no more throw slashes, Please, 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:18.960 yeah too many throw Fashion we'll cut it. Man nineteen ninety, 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.080 Nine Ricky williams of The Heisman, trophy what a. Monster 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.360 he was should have gone TO sc though he's From San. Diego, 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.279 yeah that's. True he almost, came BUT i Guess texas paid. 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.880 MORE i heard he took a pay cut to get 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.600 to the league for his first few. Years probably you 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.520 KNOW TD. Mvp he was a monster for that like 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.200 a six year. Span it was Just Treel. Davis we 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:43.000 played against them THE Afc championship. Game Randy moss Was 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.480 rookie of The year this. Year what a STUD i 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.080 played With randon he, Was he was a. Monster what 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.799 do you think Of randy? Freak Freak Just i've never 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.960 seen somebody so tall be able to run so fluid. Fluid, 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:57.800 yeah it doesn't even look like he's. 0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:58.879 Running ALMOST sc. 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.400 Two, well, yeah that. Close he went to the he 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.920 had a crazy. Story, yeah but he but when he 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:08.440 got bounced out of Either Florida state or know the, 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.960 name he was gonna come TO. Sc BUT i don't 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.520 THINK i think we just said, NAH i never mind 0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:16.719 because he was gonna. Come it played with, me but 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:18.960 they were just, LIKE i think it was the whole 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.920 and it wasn't even that, horrible, Right it's just not to, 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.520 me it's Not it's nothing Near, okay you get into a. 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:26.680 Fight, YEAH i mean it's not that big of a. 0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:32.120 Deal n Il are you staying all and if you 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:36.400 were in nil, Life, yeah are you staying at sc all? 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:37.480 Year you going to Heightst. 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.600 Bidder i'm staying at sea all? Year all. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.920 Clear the reason is is because we could, pay AND i. 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.240 Wouldn't i'm a loyal. Person i'm not a bouncing around. 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.440 Guy like you know What i'm, Saying, Like i'm not 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.719 gonna leave just because somebody offering, me you, know four 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.160 million versus two and a. Half i'm not gonna jump 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.000 and run Because i'm a loyal. Guy, PLUS i value. 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.040 EDUCATION usc is. Educator we run the state Of. California 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.840 luma lums were all over the so you. 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:04.120 Know What i'm. 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.400 Saying so it's a little bit different, dynamic and they 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.560 we we will, pay but it would have been very. 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.000 EXPENSIVE i probably would have been we were, TALKING i 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.080 was having this conversation not too long. AGO i probably 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.600 was based on with all these arch mannings and ship like, 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.120 that GETTING i probably was a. 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:19.040 Ten million dollar guy a. 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:19.239 Year. 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.200 Yeah, yeah IF i. 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:26.000 Had to equate that what number? Receiver you, know it's 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.480 a different got a certain Look i'm from L. A 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.279 you know What i'm, saying kind of got a nice 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.080 look to me and SH i probably would HAVE i 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.520 would BECAUSE i bawled out my sophomore year at. College 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.000 but you went to a smaller, school SO i would 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:39.680 have went To. Oregon that's What i'm. Saying you would have, 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:41.359 left you'd have. LAUGHED i would have went to the pack. 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.800 Town of, course would have. Left but it will be 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.600 smart for you to, leave leave in usc to go? 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:50.560 Where well where AM i going To? Alabama going to 0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.200 all of Fuck? Obama me going To? Alabama brother from 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.840 The west. Coast hell, no the bag was way. Bigger 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:58.799 it wasn't gonna be. Much oh that's Your that's that's. 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.520 True we can pay what we want to pay when 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.480 we want to pay, It so who we want to pay? 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.200 It two IN I l wasn't IN I. L BUT 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:07.799 i still got WHAT i needed even though it wasn't 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.359 INN I. L you see What i'm, saying wing. 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:14.600 Wing and then ALSO i mean as, see, hey they 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:15.520 have some of the. 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.359 Most they have like the most, heismans, RIGHT i think 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.200 we do by like one by, one like Maybe Ohio 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.680 state or. Something what's The mount rushmore OF usc football. Players, 0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:29.680 man it's it'd be tough to build one because we 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.920 so deep. Deep, yeah we don't even Celebrate All american 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:37.440 status unless your number, one unless you're first team and 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:42.120 you have to be Like Walter camp or ap or 0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.160 one of those. Type it can't be Like Julian Elleman's 0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:49.600 All american First team he. Voted they wouldn't even did 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.400 give you a plaque because we got too many for, 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.200 years like we don't even Have we don't even retire 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:57.400 jerseys unless you win The. 0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.279 Heisman it's a real estate problem. 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.880 There it's just it's crazy, Though like you couldn't be 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.359 When Tom brady And Julia adam Is All American. Team, 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.000 okay that's, cool but they're not going to honor you for. 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:09.680 That you. 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.080 Know that's just how The that's how university. Is it's 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.640 just a weird. Deal off the top top four right, now, 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.360 though who do you think immediately you can put yourself 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:19.280 In I'm. 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.520 I'm ian automatically, though that's. 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:25.359 Easy got Unanimous all pac twelve one hundred anniversary, team 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.120 like only dude to get. It only only one out of, 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:31.759 everybody only one out of all the great. Players you're 0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.759 the top three that are sitting up on That man 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.800 mountain with. You but, no, Boss i'm, serious it's hard 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:44.400 because of the history and the day there Who Mark's, 0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:45.320 Allen that's. 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.880 What i'm just. HARD i just gonna go by era because. 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.440 Think about this, Though, Julian Ronnie, Lot, okay so let's just, 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:59.680 say let's just Say Ronnie, Lott anthony Munjos Lin, Swan Marcus, 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.960 allen what About Troy? Polamolo what About Keshawn? Johnson what 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:07.080 About Carson? Palmer what about you, know, like it's just, Hard, 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.520 reggie but like it's can't even you could do. IT 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.920 i think we do it more by position than we 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.400 do by The mount. Rushmot we do ours more by 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:22.480 position in the theme. Park there's No mount rushmore sighting for. 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.880 Us see They so when you start saying best running, 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:28.239 back now that's. Easier Marcus, allen what About Reggie? Bush, 0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:29.080 Okay Reggie bush? 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.080 Too you know you Just Charles. 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.239 White you, know it's just, like but then when you 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.320 get the receivers hands, down we all know who that. 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:36.080 Is so it didn't even. 0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:41.640 Question it's mus not even close him. Close let's go not. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:45.520 Close i'm you, Know i'm an air. Game but still not. 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.960 Close it's not it's not. Close so let's jump into this, Game. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:50.279 Jackie let's do. It let's do. 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:50.960 It should hit These. 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.440 Jags first hit these These jags eleven and five and. 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:55.800 Went they're fourth year in. Existence they came in in 0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.280 ninety five with The. PANTHERS i remember that as an expansion. 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.920 Team Tom coughlin Shawl uh from the beginning to NOW 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:03.160 gm as well. 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:06.560 Drafted Fred taylor ninth over all this, year Rookie. Fred 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.120 this year he had played With Freddy Beast REGGIE. B. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.280 Barlow this was back when they were in THE Afc 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.879 Central for all you conference heads out, there uh when 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.560 six and two individual games started the year hot five 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.839 and zero and just leading up to, this they had 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:23.120 quite a bit of, success made the playoffs in their 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.520 first two out of their first three, seasons and they 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:26.960 were in THE Afc championship in ninety. 0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.719 Six which Is keenan mccardill letting the team sixty four, 0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.600 CATCHES i mean receive, it but oh, no it's just, 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:35.759 okay you just got sixty four. SEPTIONSS i thought that 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.200 was the. Leaders now they just got two, Leaders jimmy and. 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.799 Him Well, jimmy he Had, jimmy he had eleven hundred, 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.160 yards eight. Tugs we gotta put some show on these. 0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.239 Guys mark crazy, though seventy eight catches and sixty four 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:50.960 catches back, then be like one hundred and twenty five. Today, yeah, crazy, 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.560 right you know it's crazy that what what Did Fred 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.160 taylor didn't really fred too. Much freda was a. Rookie, 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:01.120 yeah this is rookie. Year, yeah everybody for twelve hundred. Yards, 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.480 YEAH i mean he had a hell of a rookie. 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:05.960 Year but you could. Tell probably In belichick's meeting he 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:07.120 said Of, eland this guy beat. 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.840 Us, yeah, Sure i'm. Sure i'm sure he. 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:11.320 Did what do you think about when you think of 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:12.080 This jaguars? 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:15.680 Team they was. GOOD i mean they were they were right. 0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.920 There he just could never get over the hump when 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.319 you look at the. SECONDARY i Remember Aaron beasley came 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:25.080 out with me From, Virginia West. Virginia, Uh Donovan darius 0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:29.520 With Syracuse Donovan Darius damn that broke my sternum on 0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:32.320 a on a on a turkey hole shot on the 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.120 on the, right on the right, side line out up 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.839 and he hit Me bawn and, AGAIN i still feel 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:41.440 it to this. DAY i held onto the, ball you. 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:42.000 Know and it's so. 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.680 Funny his, DAUGHTER i believe his daughter what did was 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.600 his daughter works At. Fox she had put him on 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:50.600 the phone on me a couple of months. Ago, yeah 0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:52.680 and he we were talking about that hit and then 0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:55.279 he hit me late on the reverse for the. Touchdown oh, 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.120 yeah you were like two steps into the intil he 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.799 hit me. Late but whatever this and you're a Tall 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:04.879 yeah he's been. Down, Yeah Dion, figures but he got 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.239 the worst on the turkey hole. Shot he the one 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.400 who got the worst sometimes because you're a big ass moe. 0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:13.080 Fucker AND i knew how to absorb the. Hit Dion. 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.840 FIGURES i. REMEMBER i remember all these, dudes LIKE i 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.320 played With Tony biselli in. College, Tony butceelli taught me 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.920 how to. Block what did he, Say just drive my 0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:23.560 feet locking in and just drive my feet. DUMP i 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.960 just did a VOICE myil episode before, this AND i, 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.000 said you don't block with your, hands you block with your. 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:29.279 Feet. 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:33.560 Yeah, yeah it's hand battled to get in. Position AND 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.719 i Tell Mark brunell all the, TIME i picked you be. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.359 Quiet that's. True Reggie bowler is one of my good. 0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.439 Friends now that you did Did parcells say anything About 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:46.480 coughlin when you remember preparing about this because he just 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.840 because they were all under. Him, yeah he coached with, 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:52.040 him and here's what they're gonna. Do And Chris palmer 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.040 is a friend of, mine and you know. 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:54.759 He gave it a whole. 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.080 Spiel, YEAH i can see. It let's break down These. 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:02.080 Jets get into these twelve and Four New york Four. Jets, 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:05.440 man it's weird to, say, right that's. 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:07.640 Crazy twelve and. 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.200 FOUR i did Get we got our ass beat by 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.040 The jets in the. Playoffs, oh San, Chito, yeah San, 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.120 chito go keep. Going, no, man these guys. 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:18.400 WERE Afc east. Champs this Was Bill parcell's second. Season 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.120 turn that thing around. Quick you remember two years before 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:24.360 This keishawn's rick year one in. FIFTEEN i mean brutal. 0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:24.920 Stuff that's a. 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:28.320 Turnaround brought In Curtis martin in the, offseason Signed vinnie Test. 0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:31.720 Verty he'd been let go By BALTIMORE U seven regular 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.720 season wins over eventual playoff, teams which is pretty, Cool, 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.080 like you beat some good competition this. 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.600 Year, uh some dudes on this. Team this was a 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:40.360 team with some. 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.120 Dudes you Got Wayne, crebbett you Got Keisha, On Kyle, 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:47.800 brady the tight, End Vinnie, Testa, VERDI i, Mean Pepper. 0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:51.320 Johnson, lewis and then the star. 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.400 Started otis my Man, smith you got like a star 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.440 started coaching staff as you, know you Got Romeo, crenell 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.520 you Got Charlie, weiss you Got Bill, belichick he got 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:03.080 Al groho he talked about. Earlier the big tune is 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:06.200 your head coach hadn't been to hadn't won a playoff 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.840 game in twelve, years hadn't made the playoffs in Nine 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:09.240 so this was. 0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:11.440 Big, no this was this was a big. Deal this 0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:11.920 is a big. 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:17.280 Game we'll be right back after this quick. Break how 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.240 Was Aaron glenn as a? Teammate do you know he's 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:20.680 gonna be a head? Coach current head coach on the. 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.480 TEAM i didn't know he would be a head coach 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:28.720 until later on in his coaching. Career great, TEAMMATE i, 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:32.960 mean it's like one of my. Boys but didn't not 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.320 really looked at. HIM i thought maybe oldest would have 0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.120 been a head, Coach Jerome henderson would have been a head, 0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:43.480 coach those type of dudes who've been head, coaches NOT. 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.040 AG i didn't THINK ag was gonna be a head. Coach, 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.920 HEY i just didn't SEE i just did see him. 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.760 Coaching he just. Didn't he never used. To he never 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.400 used to. COACH i Knew Brian cox would be a 0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.800 coach because he was always fucking, coaching especially like. 0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:00.880 Me he would coach me and to go cuts out the. 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:04.280 Coaches he would literally be, like not tell, them, motherfucker 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.480 to get your ball man, on fucking you, know key, 0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:07.120 man tell them. 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:09.280 Off and he was cussing the coaches out. Too it was. 0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:12.480 It this was, like out of all the teams THAT 0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:17.919 i played, on this was was WHERE i had my most. 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.439 Fun was this this unit with these guys you're young 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:25.440 girls show you're still, yeah but just the, personalities like the, 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:27.960 camaraderie a lot of, dogs a lot of, dolls but 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.000 there was a there was a there was literally like 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.000 to work hard if you're with Personal, yeah this was 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:39.040 A this was a serious, camaraderie team building type. Situation 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.160 where other teams THAT i played, on it was it was, 0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:46.280 clickish but all of us would hang, together whether it Was, 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.840 richie whether it Was Ray, lucas whether it was Even, 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:57.280 quebec even even uh Dietrich. Ward Obviously Chris Vick Marcus, 0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:02.840 Coleman uh you, know uh Mole. FAERRY i just was 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.200 with Ferri er not too long. Ago like we all 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:09.360 would fucking go after the, games all go to the 1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:12.680 clubs and party and it was just a it was it. 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.080 Was it was a just a crazy, thing. Man but 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:21.160 the interesting thing Is bill would have me followed by, 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:25.320 Security like the security team would follow me WHEREVER i. 1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:27.360 Go AND i come back the next day and be, 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.720 like how was that chicken prom? Palm how did that? 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:31.480 Go fucking? 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:42.720 Fuck so one DAY i was In New, jersey And 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:46.240 New jersey from our practice, facilities probably in, traffic was 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:49.280 probably three hour drive or whatever the case. Is SO 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:52.720 i was messing with a gal at this time that 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:57.680 Was she's laughing THAT i probably. 1:00:58.800 --> 1:00:59.040 Wasn't. 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:02.920 MARRIED i probably shouldn't have been messing with let's just 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.720 say that probably should should have waited a little bit 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:10.640 longer to deal with. That SO i get back to the. 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:15.160 Facility he, goes what were you doing In? Jersey that's 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:16.560 the way he, Talked what were you doing In? Jersey 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:17.000 what do you? 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:18.480 Mean what WAS i? DOING i wasn't In. 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:20.040 Jersey don't you lie to? 1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:21.760 ME i, said what you're talking. 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:25.520 About, bill don't you drive a green navigated one of those. 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:29.520 TRUCKS i, said, YEAH i. Drive he, says, well you 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:31.919 stupid or you? Dumb said what the? FUCK i, said, 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:34.640 coach what are you talking? About you were over That broad's. 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:40.600 House i'm, Like, bill are you talking? About are you? 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:47.480 Stupid she's not even officially divorced. Yet i'm, like what the? 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:51.080 Fuck you should port your car in the? Garage you 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:55.080 got your parked. OUTSIDE i ain't know everything you this 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:57.440 Is i'm telling you the, Truth. Jules And i'm, like 1:01:57.600 --> 1:02:01.200 this motherfucker Really and So i'm, like SO i was 1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:04.760 mad basically the whole. Week SO i wouldn't even talk to. Him, 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:09.200 SEE i played games with. HIM i literally like some 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:10.800 of my ex, teammates if you ever get a chance. 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:13.040 TO i used to play games with the. Coaches you, 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:14.960 know coaches try to act you have a bad, game 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:16.280 and they try to act like they wan't to talk to. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:18.600 You they you, know they don't say but two. Words 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:20.880 that's HOW i used to treat. Them i'd go warm, 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.400 up put my cliques. ON i won't talk to. HIM 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.400 i go stand over, there stretched by. Myself what's wrong 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:26.720 with him? 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:27.919 Today nothing? 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:31.160 Wrong, Man i'm good AND i walk. Away they try 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:32.840 to bring ME i want to tell you something about this. 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:36.120 ROUTE i, go, okay, cool, Go BUT i freeze them 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:38.880 out like they would do. Us and so that whole 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:42.160 WEEK i didn't say a word to him at. All 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:45.840 and you can tell he knew. That he made me 1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:49.360 mad by Sending Steve, yarnell which was our security, guy 1:02:49.840 --> 1:02:52.600 sent some of their investigators to follow. Me they used 1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:54.760 to follow literally follow us all In New York city and. 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:56.200 Everything but that's WHY i love. 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:57.880 You though it, was it was some of the. 1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:00.200 Best it was some of the best those, times some 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:03.960 of the. Best, man your a big investment. Dog, no 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:07.400 but you intment you don't need to. Have i'm. NOT i. 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.680 Don't first of, ALL i don't do. DRUGS i. BARELY 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:12.680 i don't even THINK i was drinking at this. Time 1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:13.520 it's not about, that. 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:16.000 Though you, know what if what if NO i did? 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.120 It what if someone comes IN i, KNOW i get. 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:19.840 IT i probably shouldn't be the green. 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:25.280 Navigator, PROBABLY i don't. Know probably some parcels got two 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:26.640 dudes out, there gotting them for. 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:26.760 You. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:30.000 No, True, no it's, true it's. True it's. True it's. 1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:32.720 True i'm gonna say it's, true probably shouldn't have done, 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:36.320 that but what are you gonna, say you? Young it 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:43.000 was one of the. Things it's, like, oh what Was 1:03:43.040 --> 1:03:45.960 Wayne kerbett like like a? Teammate wayne was cool. Man 1:03:47.280 --> 1:03:52.040 he was just a normal guy who worked his little tail, off, 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:58.440 overachiever deserves literally everything that he. Got and we we 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.600 played together and we it's a crazy thing because we 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:04.120 used to go, out we, drove we went To Atlantic 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:07.480 city in the limousine. Together and this was after my, 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:10.200 Book this is like in ninety, eight and, shit. 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:11.960 It just he. 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:14.480 Was he was cool, man hard, worker you. Know he 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:16.560 was a hard, working little little son of a. GUN 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:20.520 i call him the original uh they call him slot. 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:23.360 Father what's the fucking guy that played In New? England 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:26.880 Wes Wes. Welker, yeah he the Original Wes welker. Type 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:30.280 he was a good little, dude, scrappy fight his ass, 1:04:30.360 --> 1:04:33.840 off you. Know and the thing with me and him 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:36.640 is the media In New York West coast Versus east, 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:40.480 coast white versus, black big personality versus little little. Hometown he, 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:43.840 wrote they took that and ran with it and they created. 1:04:43.840 --> 1:04:46.520 IT i remember, That, yeah they created BECAUSE i but 1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:49.240 in all, FAIRNESS i probably shouldn't have called him a 1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:52.640 mascot in my, book but but it. 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:56.760 WASN'T i didn't look at it as a as a 1:04:57.040 --> 1:04:58.720 Disc that's not WHAT i looked at. 1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:00.680 It they looked at like he's. Done he the path 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:04.120 Of like he's the flag. Carrier he's the guy, that 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:07.960 no matter what goes, wrong he's a. Jet he's a fucking, 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:11.000 jet through and. Through that's the WAY i looked at. 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:15.400 Carrier but they in the media didn't look at it that. 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:17.640 Way they looked at it his Brash West coast flip 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:20.960 flop Wearing bord shork t. Shirt guy comes in driving 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:24.320 ferrari our guy who works, hard carries a lunch pail 1:05:24.400 --> 1:05:26.880 From New. JERSEY i dare, You that's the way they 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:29.200 looked at, it you. KNOW i was, like WHATEVER i 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.400 saw That cribs episode of way In. Corbett he has 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:45.280 some cars now crib a couple and. Vets he had a. 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:48.560 Bent but that was the. 1:05:48.680 --> 1:05:54.200 Difference so that right there is WHY i became the 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:57.200 number one overall. Pick it wasn't just my football. Skills 1:05:57.600 --> 1:06:00.240 it was everything THAT i brought to the. Organization WHEN 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:02.480 i first got to The, jets them, jokers was wearing 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:06.280 jeans and boots and driving. Trucks all of a, SUDDEN i, 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:08.400 Come i'm suited and. BOOTED i got the ear, RINGS 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:10.640 i got the Diamond. Rolexis i'm living a certain. Life 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:13.600 Driving ferraris In New York, city it was just a 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:15.200 Different you see What i'm. 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:16.240 Saying you know what the kids call? 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:18.920 That, now what's that? Swag and they say you Got? Aura, 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:23.360 WELL i had a plus swag right Plus, riz you 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:29.280 Know riz. Baby and so all of a, sudden that, 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:33.920 team all those dudes. Change they start Driving, Ferraris, Porschees, 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:37.040 Mercedes being's. Trucks they just started doing all that. SHIT 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.440 i mean they were also one in, fifteen two and. 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:41.680 Fourteen when you go eight and eight and you start 1:06:41.800 --> 1:06:45.800 making the, Playoffs jungers gonna put. Sate you never had 1:06:45.840 --> 1:06:49.320 this experience to be able to go into a city 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:51.320 and you get ready to go in the restaurant and 1:06:51.360 --> 1:06:53.920 they close the window on. You, no it's closed and 1:06:54.040 --> 1:06:56.240 open because you. Suck they wouldn't even let you win 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:58.640 In New. York i've had that experience. 1:06:58.680 --> 1:06:59.080 Before it's. 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:02.520 Brutal we, Go we're, like, oh how you? Go they're, 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:04.920 like oh, no we. Closed we it's like couple being 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:07.000 you serious right? NOW i just see all lady of five. 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:09.479 People it's nine. O'clock, men It's New York. City because 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:11.040 they wouldn't even let a scene because we were so 1:07:11.160 --> 1:07:14.160 bad they didn't want our. Business, wow we were bad 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.680 though at one, fifteen you're not. Here, no we're good. 1:07:16.720 --> 1:07:20.080 There let's jump into. It let's see JACK. U let's 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:21.880 break this game. Down so The jets were coming in this. 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:24.360 Thing the two seed got to buy finished year in 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:26.920 a six game win. Streak they were, hot The jags new, 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:29.600 team but up and coming balling couldn't quite get over that. 1:07:29.680 --> 1:07:32.000 Hump As keishawan said, earlier first time they won their, 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:34.440 division they were the three seed coming off a wild card, 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:37.800 round went over The patriots twenty five to. Ten faltered 1:07:37.800 --> 1:07:40.000 a little bit down the, stretch lost two of their 1:07:40.040 --> 1:07:41.200 last three in the regular. 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:43.760 Season oh and this Was Bill parcells's first. 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:46.800 Game As jets head coach in the playoffs And kishon's 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:47.280 first playoff. 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:49.000 Game, SEE i didn't even know what the two seed 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:51.520 meant back because so. Young, YEAH i didn't even the 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:54.240 magnitude of getting the two. Seed, really it's, like, oh 1:07:54.240 --> 1:07:55.840 we're in the, playoffs he got the two. Seed, okay 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.080 we got a home. GAME i didn't really ain't a 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:01.120 buye yeah a. BYE i really didn't die later on 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:04.240 in my, career how important that ship. Was, well when you're, 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.640 older you need it more. Too, yeah because you need 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:09.080 the health you know you, need you need that extra. 1:08:09.240 --> 1:08:11.760 Time now what do you doing bye week with with? 1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:13.800 Parcels did you give you a tough bye? Week or 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.080 you guys full blue and white game like we used 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:19.680 to do full. Scrimmage now we didn't, scrimmage but we 1:08:19.720 --> 1:08:23.839 would have practice and a whole deal and in pads 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:26.320 and run it back and do you know started back 1:08:26.320 --> 1:08:28.760 from the. Top you fucked? Up blah blah, blah same. 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:30.640 Thing two days would be really. Hard give you a 1:08:30.720 --> 1:08:33.760 few days off then come. Back so we would we 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:38.960 would try to figure out when we actually had off, 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:41.879 EVERYONE i, mean but they wouldn't tell me never never. 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:44.840 Never sneaky coaching Because bill used to do that ship with. 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:48.160 Us BUT i Had But i've always had. Moles mold 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:50.479 you gotta Have i've always had a. Mold you always 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:53.479 have a mole always BECAUSE i was always cool to, 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:56.240 Everybody like, Right i'm taking care of, DUDES i always got. 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:58.479 It so they you, know, Like i'm not supposed to say, 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:02.280 this BUT i think you guys are off On friday back, 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:04.360 month you know that type of, thing and who's who's 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:07.200 more like some of the coaching staff's your, staff but 1:09:07.240 --> 1:09:10.040 they could be a G. A i could be an assistant. 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:10.600 COACH i was. 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.439 CLOSE i was close With Todd, hayley my receiver coachure 1:09:13.479 --> 1:09:16.680 that's like my. Brother And bill knew, that so he 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:21.760 wouldn't even. Tell he wouldn't Tell todd certain ship trying 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:24.960 to find out who the rast it's one. Time, UH 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:26.600 i don't know If New england they ever did this. 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.599 Before so we're actually getting ready to Play New. England 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:33.320 this is the The Foxy lady. Game this is no 1:09:33.520 --> 1:09:37.800 this is this is Either Tuna bowl one Or Tuna bowl. 1:09:37.840 --> 1:09:42.120 Two, Okay, bears yeah he did. 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:46.880 You, know you, Know bears was my he was my. Guy, 1:09:47.080 --> 1:09:49.320 yeah and Then bill took him from. You, Yeah bill 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:49.760 took him from. 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:52.760 Me bears started with how was he back? 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:56.040 Then he, Was, yeah he was my age, basically but 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:58.240 he was he worked, hard but he was my. Guy 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:00.559 IF i went, left he left went, right he went. 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:02.240 Right you wanted to get me On julian. Show you 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:03.960 have to talk to. Him you, know he was with 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:06.920 me at the press. Conferences HE i was essentially training 1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:11.720 him For belichick the whole entire time on. You yeah, 1:10:11.800 --> 1:10:14.680 no but he BUT i Told bill to hire him 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:17.000 when because we all left at the same. Time So i'm, 1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:19.519 like this is who you need because that press conference 1:10:19.600 --> 1:10:22.320 you had was harseship with that. Note you know you 1:10:22.400 --> 1:10:25.559 gotta hire my. Dude and, so oh, SHIT i forgot 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:27.439 my tray to thought WHAT i was About Tula. Bowl 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:32.719 so The Tuna. Bowl AND i don't know If belichick 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:38.280 ever did. This so we're we're, practicing and now practice is. 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:44.200 Sloppy he got so pissed he snatched the call sheets and. 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:48.400 Everything he made all the, PLAYERS i mean all the 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:51.679 coaches get off the. Field he made the fucking guy 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:57.240 from the tower come, down stop. Taping practice is. Over 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:59.280 if you motherfuckers want to win and you want to, 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:01.280 practice say out, here do the ship your fucking. Self 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:05.559 they started leaving the, coaches leaving he upstairs at this little. 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:07.599 Window you could see him opening the curtain every now 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:08.920 and trying to see. Us he want to see. 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:09.240 Us we're. 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:11.840 Practicing Because vinnie and Beat cox and they have The 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:16.360 yeah we got, yeah, yeah the whole, deal the whole. Deal, 1:11:17.720 --> 1:11:21.320 yeah the whole, deal the whole. Deal and we made the. 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:24.040 Film guys go back up and start the. Film so 1:11:24.160 --> 1:11:26.559 they watched the, tape you, know coaches with the, bullshit 1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:29.200 they watched the. TAPE i just was, like these motherfuckers 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:30.960 and we went up The fox boll beat the ship 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:31.400 out Of Pete. 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:37.000 Carroll yeah we beat them. Bad oh, yeah we beat them. 1:11:37.040 --> 1:11:40.320 BAD i think The bowl, TWO i think, yeah, yeah 1:11:40.320 --> 1:11:43.360 the first close first. ONE i think like like a 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:45.400 like a last minute. TOUCHDOWN i hit the. 1:11:45.640 --> 1:11:49.439 CORNER i hit The Max cafe X. Q i was 1:11:49.479 --> 1:11:51.439 THE x on The Max cafe at the deep deep 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:52.640 corner in the back of the END z on the 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:53.040 left hand. 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:56.240 SIRE i know my ship with the overtime and there 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:57.720 is some special team stuff. Here. 1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:01.840 Yeah. Yeah John hall missed the field, goal the walk 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:04.479 off field. GOAL i Love John hall smoked that. Weed 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:07.800 that was my, kicker hey. Kicker, yeah he was. Cool 1:12:07.800 --> 1:12:08.160 he wasn't a. 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:09.120 Kicker he was a. 1:12:09.240 --> 1:12:11.479 Dude, well we had a we had a couple of those. 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:13.200 Guys he was a guy like he was one of our. 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:15.439 Boys you know What i'm, saying there's always. One there's 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:18.040 always a kicker or punter that can hang with. Them 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.680 back in that, day they hated. More, yeah but you 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:23.639 gotta think back in that, day he was so cool 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:25.840 and he liked the black. Girls and he's a white, 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:27.840 kicker and he wanted to hang out with us because 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.400 he liked the black. Chicks you know What i'm. Saying, 1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:31.320 no we don't. Care but back in that, day you, 1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:35.720 know but you, know times have changed a. Lot when he, 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:40.679 said once you go, black you never go. Back man Oh, man. 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:43.559 Shout Out John, all shout Out, jay. 1:12:43.640 --> 1:12:48.559 Heazy But bill Was bill's Benf this, team this brings back. 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.360 Mebe this is a fun. Team all, right what a 1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:52.000 good group of. Dudes let's jump into the. 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:52.479 Game all. 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:54.320 Right we just got a little quote From keishan here 1:12:54.360 --> 1:12:56.320 to foreshadow of this. Thing week leading up to the, 1:12:56.360 --> 1:13:01.040 Game keishawan, SAID i want to be the guy on every, play, running, catching, blocking. 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:04.400 Whatever and we saw that today in this literally From 1:13:04.479 --> 1:13:08.160 kishan with the stat line insane comes out. Hot vinnie 1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:10.519 finds Keish on in that twenty one yard see right 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:13.040 down in the middle of, there. Touchdown John hall then 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:15.120 as on a fifty two, yarder at the, time the 1:13:15.200 --> 1:13:17.880 longest field goal In jets playoff. History, wow a little 1:13:17.920 --> 1:13:19.080 fun fact for the special. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:20.760 Teamers, YAH i didn't know he had a fifty two 1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:21.840 yard got up ten. 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:24.040 Nothing then we get to one of the wilder moments 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:26.920 of the, game whereas Where kishaw's fumble recovery comes From 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:31.280 Curtis martin fumble. Weird Chris hudson returns the, ball tries 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:33.920 to do a lateral on the. Run boy play hustle 1:13:33.960 --> 1:13:38.519 played from kishon tracks other. Side gotta getting covered that, 1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:39.080 thing got? 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.560 It? Yeah get mad the ball turn you gotta you 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:45.120 gotta chase in, in you. Know and in this situation 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:47.280 that was just me in general, though RIGHT i. WAS 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:50.240 i was on the other side of the, field AND 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:54.160 i Saw curtis, fumble AND i just, said let me 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:56.559 get on my. Horse if they just slowing, Down i'm 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:58.960 gonna catch. Him they just gotta make him slow it. 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:00.840 Down that's what happened in and he wound up trying 1:14:00.840 --> 1:14:03.000 to ladder BECAUSE i was in the right place at 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:04.800 the right time and doing my. Job this is what. 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:07.519 Happened that's what happens when you hustle, amen right. Place 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:10.160 it was one of the dumber Moves i've seen. 1:14:10.200 --> 1:14:10.439 That that. 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:12.720 Lateral that was a bad. Lateral, no it. 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:15.400 WAS i don't, know because he's not used to carrying the. 1:14:15.439 --> 1:14:19.760 Ball catchers, catch, throw us. 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:23.599 Throw Did parcels ever have drills for the defensive. Guys, 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:25.960 yeah they always had, to like on how to carry the. 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:27.960 BALL i don't know if they we used to do. 1:14:28.080 --> 1:14:32.919 That bill would show those plays and, say, look, asshole 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:37.120 like you're. Nothold we're not doing this. Right, okay if 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.120 you're gonna do, this it better be the last play 1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:41.040 of the, game and we need you know WHAT i. 1:14:41.160 --> 1:14:43.080 Mean it's just Fucking oh my. GOSH i would hate 1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:44.800 to be in the film room With bill after IF 1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:47.560 i had done that. Latter oh my. God, no it 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:48.160 was crazy. 1:14:48.200 --> 1:14:50.360 Though this is, crazy, man and this game was crazy. 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:50.559 Too. 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:53.760 Insane that set Up keshawn's other touchdown the end a. 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:56.360 Round as we, mentioned reverse. 1:14:57.880 --> 1:15:01.959 Was butch right toss thirty eight z reverse left. 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:05.040 The same fucking, play so we would change. 1:15:05.360 --> 1:15:10.640 Formationally depend started getting all that zip zoom snug. Bullshit 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:13.000 later on that. SHIP i had all that shit With 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:16.800 grooten punk ass and zip is just, basically, yeah TAILOR 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:19.679 z gotta come in to, block, yeah or come half 1:15:19.960 --> 1:15:22.200 zip down because we would do that. Too we would 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:25.719 go butt, Right we would go butt, right zip toss 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:27.960 thirty eight. Gators SO i would come and zip down 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:30.479 and then come back. Around, yeah it was grooding like 1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:30.960 as a. 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:36.840 Coach we get through this, anyways before the, half we 1:15:36.920 --> 1:15:39.719 get up seventeen to. Nothing here there's a little, scuffle 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:41.639 a little scuffle before The have you like to see 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.120 that and play a? Football Jumbo elliott and Old Kevin, 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:45.400 hardy they were getting into. 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:46.280 It jumbo was. 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:48.000 Big he WAS i don't know what type office in 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:50.080 lineman you played, with but he might have been one 1:15:50.080 --> 1:15:51.880 of the Big he could walk to the door. Man 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:53.559 he was one of them type of dudes. 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:56.120 On time name too so. Big, yeah we Had we 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:56.360 had a. 1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:59.760 Couple we didn't WE i had one really big Hoo Trent, 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:02.960 Yeah Trump, Brown Trimp brown was a large. HUMAN i 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:05.679 think he was like But jumbo was a large human 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:09.200 but ripped. Up he had the little you know how 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:11.000 we used to we had THE v back in the. 1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:13.519 Day that's what he had as a line and he 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:13.760 had THE. 1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:14.960 V that's like. 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:20.200 Crazy we had A Nate. Soldier, YEAH i. Know nate 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:23.000 was really like he he was three hundred and fifteen 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:25.439 pounds of a six. Pack, yeah this is How jumbo, 1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:27.120 was you know WHAT i. Mean so there's just Like 1:16:27.280 --> 1:16:30.840 jumbo was cool, too bone, Man jumbo was. Cool that 1:16:30.920 --> 1:16:32.960 was one of my coolest offensive line HOMIES i. Had, 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:38.519 yes it's so funny. MAN i, uh before you mentioned the, 1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:43.479 Halftime before the, Half Jimmy smith. SCORED i believe that's 1:16:43.560 --> 1:16:44.160 fifty two. 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:45.680 Yard bomb six seconds right as the half. 1:16:45.760 --> 1:16:48.600 WAS i was supposed to go in the, game, oh in, 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:49.640 safety to be the. 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:50.040 Safety. 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:54.120 Wow barcels And belichick got into, it and it was 1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:57.040 the craziest ship we ever ever seen on the sideline 1:16:57.080 --> 1:17:01.280 between two coaches, ever because Bella check didn't want to 1:17:01.320 --> 1:17:05.439 put me, In parcels wanted to put me. In belichick said, 1:17:05.479 --> 1:17:08.879 no and they went right up the rail bomb touchdown. 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:16.160 Them parcelles just lit his, Ask oh my, gosh how 1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:18.640 was that? Relationship at that? TIME i thought it was, 1:17:18.720 --> 1:17:22.680 Fine and it's great now they like, Now but at 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:23.680 that TIME i thought it was. 1:17:23.720 --> 1:17:25.280 FINE i DIDN'T i don't know the. Difference. 1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:28.240 Right he came back the next, year but that, thing my. 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:31.479 EYEBALLS i was, like Because i'm standing there ready to 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:34.320 go inn you know the, situation you, Know and he's like, 1:17:35.040 --> 1:17:40.760 No And parcells told. Him at this, Time parcells said 1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:43.960 something to the effect, of you think you know every fucking. 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:47.200 Thing that's your fucking. Genius, huh you think you know. 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:52.599 Everything that's why you fucking got fired From. Cleveland, yeah 1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:55.719 that'll that'll get, it that'll get the fumes. Going shots. 1:17:55.720 --> 1:18:00.320 FIRED i was like, This oh, shit it's when the 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:04.080 situation came up. AGAIN i went in and got the. Deception. 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:07.960 Yo that was the craziest. 1:18:07.960 --> 1:18:10.719 Gus But i've Seen bill do that to the coaches before. 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:13.360 Ourselves the type of coach that goes for, neck he 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:16.360 going for, Throat he's gonna go for. Kill shot, man 1:18:16.800 --> 1:18:19.600 try to light that fire in your huge. SHOT i 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.360 watched THE i Watched bill get. IT i Watched bill get. 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:24.400 It Charlie, weiss what? Time because you know how you 1:18:24.520 --> 1:18:27.600 do the, cards the cards wasn't in. Sync it was 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:31.880 like all messed. Up and at this, Time Krispy Kreme 1:18:33.720 --> 1:18:36.639 Krispy Kreme donuts had just became a big, thing came 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:38.599 to The east coast Of New. York so we used 1:18:38.640 --> 1:18:41.720 to make all the younger guys go pick him up or, Whatever, 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:44.479 yeah pick him, up put him out at the And 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:47.040 charlie would come to the players lounge and gets up. 1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:51.559 Donuts he had messed up the, cards what time And bill's. 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:54.479 HID i bet you if those these fucking cards Charge 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:58.640 Krispy kreme, donut you'd have got that Right. Jesus we was, 1:18:58.840 --> 1:19:02.600 like oh, shit but that's how he, was, though you, 1:19:02.680 --> 1:19:05.640 know that's HOW i. Was what's the worst thing he 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:07.880 laid into? You WHEN i was with The jets though 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:10.840 he trying to. Think one, time he just he was 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:12.639 just saying, that AM i coming to? Play i'm coming 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:15.439 to the. Game that wasn't smart like. That he wasn't 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:18.280 really never you, know into me like. That but WHEN 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:23.599 i got To dallas coming From. Tampa, Uh we're playing 1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:27.760 The Cleveland browns and Late Terry glenn gets hit. Late 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:30.800 SO i see it from a distance AND i run 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:33.280 over there AND i kicked the ship out of the 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:37.120 dude from spearing kicked. Him SO i basically took four 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:40.679 points off the, board kick in the field goal fifteen 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:43.320 yard blah. Blah so he was, like you know that was. 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:45.880 STUPID i don't know what's gotten into. You just you 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:48.880 left the Fucking jets and that ship was stupid and, 1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:51.120 nah you, know just going off and off and, off 1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:53.559 And i'm barking back at, him cussing back at, him, 1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:55.160 cussing and that was pretty much. 1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:58.120 It then one time were up In. 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:03.400 Seattle we're playing in The, seahawks AND i was. Playing, 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:04.760 OKAY i had a good, game BUT i should HAVE 1:20:05.080 --> 1:20:09.679 i should have called a corner route for a, touchdown 1:20:09.760 --> 1:20:14.400 BUT i. DIDN'T i didn't jump enough aggressive. ENOUGH i 1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:15.760 kind of just put my hands, up BUT i didn't 1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:18.360 gonna get. It and SO i go back to the. 1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:20.719 Sideline i'll kick a field. Goal he's talking shit. Whatever 1:20:21.880 --> 1:20:24.240 So i'm, LIKE i, said, WELL i don't have to 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:25.960 play For you can fucking trade. ME i don't really 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:27.559 give a. Fuck you can cut me whatever you want 1:20:27.600 --> 1:20:30.160 to and see how you see how this rest of 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:30.639 the season. 1:20:30.720 --> 1:20:33.800 Go so you fight fire with for. Fire so now 1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:35.040 end of. 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:40.639 The, Game i'll take the fucking ball off the dude's 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:43.840 head on a. VINNIE i don't. Know it might have 1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:46.640 been like a forty yard throw, touchdown BUT i go 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:50.000 AND i just lost the. Dudes so after the, game walked. 1:20:50.040 --> 1:20:51.320 Through you could play with me. 1:20:51.439 --> 1:20:54.639 ANYTIME i, said of COURSE i. Can't you know that's 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:56.960 the type BECAUSE i was a sit talker right we. 1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:59.920 Played he was just Getting he knew how to put 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.360 people's buttons to get them to. WORK i told you 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:06.000 so one time we Play indy and this is ninety, 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:09.040 nine were planning In indy if we, win we're in. 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:13.280 Testa verdie's, Hurt Ray lucas is, in so we go 1:21:14.280 --> 1:21:18.600 time out. Sideline they, say what do you want to? 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:20.040 Do they because they used to come to me for, 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:22.240 all like a lot of. Players he come to, me 1:21:22.400 --> 1:21:24.519 go what do you want to? Do, so, Man i'm 1:21:24.640 --> 1:21:26.040 whatever y'all want to. DO i think we should go 1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:30.160 for a vert, here leave me, inside Put wayne outside of. 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:33.760 Me and THEN i Think charlie was, like, no, no 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:37.360 put key, outside Put wayne in. Four let's go half 1:21:37.400 --> 1:21:41.400 personnel the, bender make him the. Bender they'll all run 1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:44.280 the key. Shine everything was, perfect really. Was it was 1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:48.439 a perfect call. Play everything was good Except wayne couldn't 1:21:48.479 --> 1:21:50.920 get up to get it because it was just slightly 1:21:51.040 --> 1:21:54.640 above his. Hands so To paul Rick, a chet's off his. 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:55.439 Hands we lose the. 1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:59.080 Game it's not his fault, whatever, right go into the locker. 1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:05.160 Room bill's walking. In god damn, it mad there's a trash, 1:22:05.240 --> 1:22:11.759 can and the trash can is still it's not. Plastic 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:15.040 he kicks the fucking trash. CAN i think he broke his. 1:22:15.160 --> 1:22:17.720 Tongue SO i, GO i go to. 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:22.920 It that's what you get what he. 1:22:23.040 --> 1:22:25.439 Said he just looked at. Me he used to. 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:28.400 Do, man somebody we have that's like a father to. 1:22:28.479 --> 1:22:30.840 ME i talked to him four or five times a. 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:33.680 Month he kicks the. THING i, go that's what that's 1:22:34.360 --> 1:22:38.679 that's what you. Get you, know he just shakes his head, 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:42.120 whatever you. Know but but the things THAT i would, 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.800 do like you, said fight fire with, fire needle. Needle 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:47.760 BUT i was the first one on the, BUS i would. 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:49.559 Be he didn't know THAT i was like that till 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:52.200 we Played buffalo AND i happened to be the first 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:54.840 one on the bus taking his. Seat you see What 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:56.640 i'm saying up In, buffalo and he was like he 1:22:56.760 --> 1:22:58.880 was shocked because he was on the first bus that 1:22:59.040 --> 1:23:01.439 leaves super. Early he couldn't believe it out because he 1:23:01.479 --> 1:23:04.080 ain't never had nobody like that. Before so he respect, 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:05.840 that you know What i'm. Saying he could be an 1:23:05.840 --> 1:23:07.439 asshole if you put your work. In oh he was an. 1:23:07.439 --> 1:23:11.160 ASSHOLE i broke like. You yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah 1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:14.160 who could be if you put the work. In we In, dallas, 1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:17.400 THOUGH i break my. ANKLE i mean we're, yeah we 1:23:17.479 --> 1:23:19.200 planning the downska In New. YORK i break my ankle 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:21.080 last game of the. Season BUT i ALWAYS i needed a. 1:23:21.120 --> 1:23:23.120 Scope this first TIME i ever been. Hurt had a 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:26.080 half a million dollars. CENTER i needed twenty two yards 1:23:26.560 --> 1:23:28.120 MORE i. GOT i, know im going into the. GAME 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:29.720 i needed forty. FOUR i got hurt in the first. 1:23:29.800 --> 1:23:33.120 QUARTER i hit a deep crosser on An apache route 1:23:33.800 --> 1:23:36.320 twenty two yards, clear get, caught snapped. Right i'm in 1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:40.479 the locker. Room i'm sitting on the. Thing. Fuck he comes. 1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:44.680 Over what's wrong with? Him he goes, Well, bill he 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:48.000 broke his. Ankle he goes, good he can get surgery on. Both, 1:23:48.080 --> 1:23:54.400 Now i'm like this, motherfucker but just great though it, 1:23:54.520 --> 1:23:56.880 was he was, cool, though he was that's about. 1:23:56.880 --> 1:23:58.560 Guy, well so you guys go in. 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:03.320 Halftime there's kind of some mixed, emotions clearly a blow 1:24:03.400 --> 1:24:05.479 up between the coaching. Staff he just gave up a 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:08.240 big ass. Touchdown what are the vibes in the locker. 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:14.200 Room we're just we're probably still feeling, confident, yeah but 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:17.240 we just can't make. Mistakes that was a mistake to 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:20.559 Let Jimmy smith up the rail right before the. Half 1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:23.519 that was a big mistake on our, Yeah jackie break 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:26.519 down the second. Half second, half The jags just would 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:26.840 not go. 1:24:26.960 --> 1:24:31.080 Away A Wayne crebet fumble of any interception in the end, 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:35.160 zone big run, back eighty eight yard run back on a, 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:38.200 kickoff like just would not go. Away this thing kept 1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:41.040 getting to like it would get seventeen, nothing then it 1:24:41.120 --> 1:24:42.840 was twenty four to, nothing then thirty one to. 1:24:42.920 --> 1:24:44.400 Fourteen then it's a one score. 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:47.120 Game thirty one twenty four with two and a half, 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:50.559 left When Donovan darius picked Off vinnie in the end 1:24:50.600 --> 1:24:54.040 zone LIKE i mentioned, earlier But Keith byers ran it 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:55.519 out of the end, zone got stopped on the one 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:59.400 one bad field, position Said jet stopped, him ended up 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:01.200 tacking on a fe search thirty four to twenty. 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:02.880 Four that takes us to the end. 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:07.880 Where a last ditch Hail mary Try keishawn's interception in 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:12.479 is this thing in the final score thirty four in the, Game. 1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:17.840 Well they ag wanted it BUT i stepped in front of. Him, 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:21.000 right they're telling me the Bad i'm like my bad ship. 1:25:21.080 --> 1:25:22.479 Down if you can get, It i'm getting. 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:23.840 It i'm kidding. It fuck. 1:25:23.920 --> 1:25:26.280 That and so the vibe was. Cool we. Celebrate you, 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:30.720 know it was fun because most of the TIME i 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.519 hang with the. DEFENSE i hang with the, defense and 1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:36.800 so you, know that was all my. Boys all the 1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:40.560 secondary was my. Guys we all hang, together and they 1:25:40.640 --> 1:25:42.760 KNEW i was Going, Ray, Ray mickens and all. Them 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:44.640 they KNEW i was going things like, this, ego, this 1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:45.640 what fucker get a? 1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:47.760 Pin so you're in team meeting That. 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:51.479 Monday, Yeah i'm that. Guy i'm, like, here tell the 1:25:51.600 --> 1:25:55.640 guy the. Best you make a play that you're not supposed, To, 1:25:55.760 --> 1:25:58.080 like that's not your because WHEN i threw a, TOUCHDOWN 1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:01.360 i came in and iceed up my arm and, it you, 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:03.840 know do, something But belichick wanted me to knock it. 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:06.120 Down yeah he knocking a ten point. 1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:08.320 Cushion come, on give me that fuck. Up you KNOW 1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:10.920 i was was. NOBODY i KNEW i was, fine almost 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.840 gonna get my. Pick hell yeah you. Gotta and you 1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:15.640 guys go, out you finish out a. 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:19.240 Game you get the First jets playoff win in twelve, 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:23.240 years first playoff appearance in nine, Years your first game 1:26:24.000 --> 1:26:26.639 in the. Playoffs you fucking ball out one hundred and twenty, 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:33.080 yards two, touchdowns one, rushing one, passing an, interception, recovery, tumble. Recovery. 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:36.760 Insane what a game, game what a do it all. 1:26:36.840 --> 1:26:40.559 Day and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention at 1:26:40.640 --> 1:26:47.800 the time this was the larger. Shutdown oh, man it 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:48.280 should have been. 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:48.519 Three. 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:49.600 Uh we got to. 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:51.080 Mention this would go down as the. 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:55.000 Largest crowd in pro football history at that, point seventy 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:56.600 eight and, seventeen. 1:26:56.320 --> 1:27:00.920 Bigger than the Old Recres stadium at this. Time at this, 1:27:01.080 --> 1:27:03.640 time that was always the biggest stadium WHEN i was a, Kid, 1:27:03.720 --> 1:27:06.400 remember REMEMBER i, thought, YEAH i thought The redskins the. 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:08.240 STADIUM i don't, know maybe it was seventy seven. 1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:10.960 Thousand this seems shocking to. Me that's. 1:27:11.120 --> 1:27:13.400 Crazy it was so loud, Though oh my, god even 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:18.120 the watching, back oh so. Loud you can like, vibration you, 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:22.320 know just the fireman at the fans was just. Amazing 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:26.000 so you go from people your rookie Year, edelmans you 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:28.960 never experienced. This what a guy wearing a bag over 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:32.120 his head with drips of, sadness with his eyes poked, 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:35.479 out crying as a grown. Man you never had to experience. 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.960 THAT i experienced that as a rookie When i'm walking 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:39.840 through the tunnel after the loss of THE Ki you, 1:27:40.000 --> 1:27:42.479 suck you. Suck takes it off because we wasted a 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:45.800 number pick on. You you. Suck you, know grown ass. 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.640 Man sounds Like jets. Fans jet, fans sounds Like jet. Fan, 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:50.320 yeah and then all of a sudden you go to 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:52.400 this and you got fireman ned over. Here. 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:56.400 Yeah oh that's something that you're for, now, man that 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:58.519 that had to be so fucked you know. 1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:01.240 WHAT i helped The jets turn it around here. SOON 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:03.200 i think it'd be good for the. League, YEAH i 1:28:03.240 --> 1:28:05.080 think they. WILL i think they'll be fine Under aaron 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:07.920 klton a g's got he's a dude to do it. 1:28:08.040 --> 1:28:10.519 Too player for the team knows. 1:28:10.600 --> 1:28:13.880 It last time they've actually really won except when San 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:15.880 chito was there and he beat us in which THE 1:28:15.920 --> 1:28:16.759 Afc championship. 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:18.639 Twice. Key have you talked to him since he took 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:22.720 over a couple of times a? Week oh heck, yeah that's. 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:26.280 Sick so what's the legacy of this, Game keishan really 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:30.679 my first real experience in the. PLAYOFFS i, mean that's really. 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:34.640 It that's that's how you are supposed to approach the. 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:37.519 Postseason you're supposed to approach it that. Way that's the 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:40.200 WAY i look at. It hell, yeah that's WHY i picked, 1:28:40.200 --> 1:28:42.600 it because you, know college is like, Whatever i'm a 1:28:42.640 --> 1:28:43.479 man of most boys in. 1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:44.559 College you know What i'm. 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:46.519 Saying That Rose bull game these, DUDES i, know But 1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:49.360 i'm a man of most boys In college's too. Easy, 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:52.080 dude just left the fucking problem a week, ago trying 1:28:52.120 --> 1:28:54.479 to cover. Me, Right i'll be, like come, Right i'll be, 1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:57.840 like think about. It different than the. Pros you got 1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:01.000 grown men with full beards with car seats the. Back in, 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.519 college you got to do. That just, left literally left 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:03.920 the Promin. 1:29:04.000 --> 1:29:05.400 May he st JOHN. 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:09.400 A no, Chance, yeah it's totally. Different no chance you 1:29:09.760 --> 1:29:13.439 have four or fifth year. Senior this dude's a seventeen 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:17.400 year old. Dude eyeballs as biggest. Saucers they're just gaves 1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:18.280 aren't even developed. 1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:18.920 Yet oh. 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:22.599 Still still trying to figure out how to get his first. 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:26.280 Kiss and we got to mention also in the aftermath 1:29:26.360 --> 1:29:28.840 of this, uh in the years that followed the near 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:32.559 history a pivotal moment In jets And patriots. History Bill 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:34.720 parcells would step down As jets head coach in ninety. 1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:38.840 Nine Bill belichick would famously take over for a. Day 1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:41.680 we all know the napkin every time that went. 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:44.320 DOWN i was. There how did go? Down what's the? 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:51.280 Inside SO i, came Looksh i'm not taking this fucking. Job, no, no, no. 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:54.599 No SO i came back in the. TOWN i had 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:56.920 went out of town for like, something AND i came 1:29:57.040 --> 1:29:59.640 back AND i went To. VACILLY i was working out 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.720 or whatever her and they like press conference, upstairs like 1:30:03.800 --> 1:30:05.840 what's going? ON i, SAID i THINK i Think bill's 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:09.120 getting ready to. Retire fuck you. Mean SO i go 1:30:09.240 --> 1:30:13.240 up To parcells' office and he's. There he's, like, oh you, 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:16.160 know some more bullshit or. Whatever i'm, like, Oh, so 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:19.640 Now bears is taking me back down to the to 1:30:19.720 --> 1:30:22.080 the big. Room And i'm standing at the top of 1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:27.320 the auditorium or, whatever you, know theory your team. Room 1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:29.200 so he's. There i'm at the top on the, wall 1:30:29.320 --> 1:30:32.920 just standing there looking and here it Comes belichick on 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:35.200 the other. Side he had like a sweatshirt on or 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:37.519 some ship he got the little napkin and he's reading 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:39.840 and the media is, there And i'm, like what the 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:43.320 fuck just? Happened and So i'm talking To John, lott 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:45.840 the strength coach at the, time and he, LIKE i, Think, 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:48.360 bill you know this? Shit is he ready be the head? 1:30:48.439 --> 1:30:51.240 Coach i'm, Like, okay, Cool i'm fucking With belichick at this. 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:53.759 Time So i'm, like oh, right, COOL i didn't. 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.200 Know so now. 1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:59.160 The process is We belichick doesn't want the? Job, now 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.880 fuck you mean just took the? Job, no he didn't 1:31:01.880 --> 1:31:06.040 take the. Job you didn't want the? Job damn what 1:31:06.120 --> 1:31:08.840 we gonna? Do so now at this, point it's all, 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:12.040 crack chaotic and, crazy, Right it's, like, damn we ain't 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:12.960 have no coach this? 1:31:13.120 --> 1:31:13.560 Week got that. 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:17.040 Job i'm trying to Get i'm trying to get. Check 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:19.240 i'm getting to do you know What i'm. Saying how 1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:21.720 they came off back to back. Probos i'd bit to 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:23.600 Pro BOW mvp when The Pro bowl was, real not 1:31:23.720 --> 1:31:26.559 t shirts Like i'm you know What i'm, Saying i'm 1:31:26.560 --> 1:31:29.360 trying to get shattered. Up and at this, Point i'm, like, 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:34.200 damn what we gonna? Do so conversations being had And, 1:31:34.439 --> 1:31:38.519 uh they just start, shit just went chaotic and, crazy 1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:41.759 like literally like people are, like, no it was. Crazy 1:31:41.840 --> 1:31:43.320 BUT i felt like he was in good hands With. 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:46.120 Belichick yeah you know What i'm, saying Because belichick at 1:31:46.160 --> 1:31:47.880 the time when they traded, Me, belichick if he had 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.439 stayed the head, coach he wasn't trading. Me he didn't understand. 1:31:50.439 --> 1:31:52.960 Why he was like the fucking Way i'm Trading but 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:56.280 they wind up trading me because Al grow felt like 1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:59.320 he didn't need, me he could just win with. Defense 1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:05.040 and but the crazy thing about it Is parcels became 1:32:05.120 --> 1:32:08.200 the president of the, team so he had full autonomy 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:10.560 and authority to do what they wanted. To so He 1:32:10.800 --> 1:32:13.679 parcels is actually the person who traded, me not Al, 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:17.400 grow not the. Owner but he trades me To Tampa 1:32:17.479 --> 1:32:21.920 bay right away from the. Division he gets two number 1:32:21.920 --> 1:32:25.080 one picks the whole deal right because he originally pitched 1:32:25.160 --> 1:32:27.760 me to go To Green. Baby he KNEW i didn't 1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:28.880 want to go to Green he KNEW i wasn't going 1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:31.760 to Fucking Green. Bay he knew THAT i wasn't going 1:32:31.800 --> 1:32:36.320 to Fucking. Baltimore baltimore had the fourth pick And Green 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:38.640 bay had somewhere in, there but, he, oh you can 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:39.760 go play with. Fore i'm, like, man you, KNOW i 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:41.519 ain't gonna Fucking Green. Bay i'm coming out Of New. 1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:44.760 York so he trades me To Tampa bay with the 1:32:44.920 --> 1:32:47.280 notion that he's getting ready to be The Tampa Bay buccaneers. 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:50.080 Coach ain't that a? Bitch he thought he was gonna 1:32:50.080 --> 1:32:50.200 be the. 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:51.040 Coach he was going to be the. 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:51.720 Coach he turned it. 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:56.160 Down he accepted it and then turned it. DOWN i 1:32:56.200 --> 1:32:56.960 didn't hear about. 1:32:57.000 --> 1:32:59.080 That, Yeah so here's how the story. Went here's how it. 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:02.360 WENT i arrived In. Tampa they trade me for two. 1:33:02.439 --> 1:33:04.840 MONTHS i go To. TAMPA i do the trade deal, 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:07.680 whatever get the, bank get the, bag the whole. Shit right, 1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:14.120 Now Tampa, bays we're struggling to. Win we're not. Winning 1:33:14.160 --> 1:33:14.360 we're not. 1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:14.920 Winning whit. 1:33:15.000 --> 1:33:17.680 Winning we get to the, playoffs we, lose get to the, 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:19.639 playoffs we. Lose so now they get ready Fire. Dungee 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:25.639 bill the whole time was eyeing The Tampa bay job 1:33:25.680 --> 1:33:27.840 when he. Retired good a place to, retire but he 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:30.720 had already left him at The altar several years. Later 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:33.280 before he took The New England patriot, job he had 1:33:33.360 --> 1:33:36.360 left the owners of The buccaneers at The altar. Already 1:33:36.600 --> 1:33:38.760 yeah it. Did he did the shit the second time 1:33:39.200 --> 1:33:43.000 after taking a. Job he hired the staff and every 1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:45.240 day it did, Decide, MAN i. 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:45.800 Don't want to do it. 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:48.479 ANYMORE i. Don't i'm Just but the staff was already 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:51.320 in place In. Tampa so now you move to The John. 1:33:51.360 --> 1:33:54.879 Grutener that's how we wind up getting grouting is because 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:57.599 we was left without a coach Because bill was supposed 1:33:57.600 --> 1:33:59.439 to take the job and didn't take the, job and 1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:01.519 they traded and then they had to find a. Coach 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:03.160 they went and got. Grooped that's how we wound up With. 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:06.479 Grooton but the staff was already in. Place the dudes 1:34:06.560 --> 1:34:09.720 that saying is a parcels staff Under. Gruden it was 1:34:09.840 --> 1:34:14.479 a parcels staff to a degree Under, grooton except the 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:17.120 defense was All Tony dungee And mighty kiffing. Them the 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:21.080 defense was it was gonna be. Kiffing it was gonna 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:24.799 be The tampa too sou offensive Was Bill, merr officer 1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:28.320 line coach From. Jets Uh tannebom was gonna be the general, 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:32.880 manager which was our guyet And jets receiver coach was Richer, 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:35.320 man which was my receiver coach of The. Jets, right 1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:38.439 it was all like whatever didn't, go whatever didn't go 1:34:38.920 --> 1:34:42.519 To New england was In. Tampa and Then bill was, 1:34:42.600 --> 1:34:46.760 LIKE i ain't doing, it fucking. Parcels i'm not have 1:34:46.800 --> 1:34:49.400 to ask him about. That i'm gonna see him here. Soon, 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:51.599 yeah you're both gonna get into The Patriot hall Of fame. Together. 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:55.160 Yea and when he was, driving he was supposed to 1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:56.519 BE i don't remember What dale was if he was 1:34:56.600 --> 1:35:00.080 driving To florida AND i was anticipating him being in 1:35:00.120 --> 1:35:02.800 there Because Tan obama had already came and you, know 1:35:02.920 --> 1:35:05.200 looked at everything and scoped it all out and did 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:07.599 the whole. Deal he calls me and he, Goes i'm 1:35:07.640 --> 1:35:09.639 not doing. It what the fuck you mean you're not doing. 1:35:09.680 --> 1:35:12.200 It i'm not gonna take. IT i think something happened 1:35:12.200 --> 1:35:14.600 to his brother's brother got sick or. Something he just was, 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:16.000 LIKE i don't want to do it right. Now but 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:17.759 then the next year he winds up going To. Dallas 1:35:18.400 --> 1:35:22.640 Ain't that's why did he trades for me From tampa To. 1:35:22.800 --> 1:35:27.360 Dallas he just loved. YOU i did everything he wanted 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:29.120 me to. Do though you know how that, goes because 1:35:29.600 --> 1:35:33.400 you know you became the guy THAT i. Was parceles, 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:36.960 Guy you're A parceles. Guy two eight baby to twenty. 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:39.479 FIVE i need you The Rose bowl guy two a. 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:41.040 Coach i'm, There, Yeah i'm. 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:41.519 There i'm. 1:35:41.560 --> 1:35:45.120 Good let's start the teacher's pet park that car in the. 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:50.479 Garage we'll be right back after this quick. Break let's 1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:54.640 score the game and name the. Game, uh let's name the. 1:35:54.720 --> 1:35:58.400 Game we Have Keishawn's Big, Day welcome to And, why 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:03.120 the Jack jets over The, jags The Keyshawn Johnson, game 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:07.559 The madness in The, meadowlands The Key shawn does It all? 1:36:07.720 --> 1:36:11.240 Game which one do you want to? Pick, Kishan i'll 1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:13.880 probably Go madness in The Medal, Lands madness at the 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:17.360 Meadow lands at The. Meddlelands, yeah score the. Game is 1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:20.040 this the greatest game of all? Time let's Score keyshawn 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:24.200 stakes zero to ten of This Divisional round game. Decimals, 1:36:24.240 --> 1:36:24.920 okay you got. 1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:25.760 The greatest of all? 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:28.840 Time ten being the big the fucking most important thing, 1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:31.720 ever zero BEING i would, say at this, time the 1:36:31.800 --> 1:36:37.879 most important team ever because of the. Chants, Honestly Divisional, 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:40.439 Round i'm gonna go eight, Winner Go, Home Winner Go 1:36:40.520 --> 1:36:44.840 home and one star power of this game people that 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:48.640 are at the, stadium, players coach, shit what was the 1:36:48.720 --> 1:36:51.120 star power of this? Game zero to ten? Decimals, OKAY 1:36:51.840 --> 1:36:54.200 i would probably say a nine. Nine. 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:57.120 Yeah some of the coaching, staffs a lot of future head. 1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:58.760 Coaches we even talked About Scott. FROST a lot of 1:36:59.040 --> 1:37:01.560 head coaches in This Scott. Frost i'm gonna go with The. 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:08.040 Frosty we used to funk with him all the time 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:10.519 because this is what he got in trouble With Lawrence 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:12.960 phillips and. Stuff he used To teasey all the, time 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.760 like you're scared of. Ship, Huh Lawrence, phips gonna kick your. 1:37:15.800 --> 1:37:18.439 Lass i'll give you eight point. 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:20.719 Eight got a seven nine out of eight point. 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:23.479 Four Game player of the. Game how the game, WENT 1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:25.880 i mean it was back and, forth a big, blows 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:30.200 a lot of, turnovers exciting. FOOTBALL i would say a 1:37:30.280 --> 1:37:33.160 seven good. SCORE i like. That i'm gonna. 1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:36.800 Go i'm gonna go seven to five out of six 1:37:36.880 --> 1:37:38.880 eight at six point seven point one in the same. 1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:42.160 Area, yea and now or now we score the name 1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:45.040 of the, Game The madness at The Meadow lambs zero 1:37:45.200 --> 1:37:50.679 ten decimals a okays a ten ten madness is, crazy lamb. 1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:53.280 Loud they ain't never seen nothing like, This some of 1:37:53.320 --> 1:37:54.880 them people in them fans and the stands ain't seen 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:56.559 the just win a playoff game in one hundred. Years, 1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.200 yeah that's probably. 1:37:59.320 --> 1:38:04.000 True i'm go, Eight i'm right. 1:38:04.120 --> 1:38:06.080 Mid where's this stack? Up? 1:38:06.120 --> 1:38:07.920 AHEAD a five point? ZERO i had a four point? 1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:09.280 Nine where does his stack? 1:38:09.360 --> 1:38:14.479 Up that's, fine stay. Calculating it's a seven point eight 1:38:14.520 --> 1:38:15.439 to seven point eight. 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:20.400 Two so that puts us uh the new forty fifth, 1:38:20.479 --> 1:38:24.519 slot just behind the two thousand and one twenty ONE 1:38:24.600 --> 1:38:27.880 sec championship Game georgia Versus, alabama and just above the 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:31.400 nineteen eighty Five week Thirteen bears Versus Dolphins monday night 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:35.240 football Game bears versus the forty fifth. GAME i don't 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:35.600 remember that. 1:38:35.720 --> 1:38:39.040 Game that was the game that was the only defeat 1:38:39.120 --> 1:38:40.519 The bears had in nineteen eighty. 1:38:40.560 --> 1:38:41.760 Five, YEAH i just don't remember the. 1:38:41.840 --> 1:38:45.439 Game, well you, know The dolphins guy's always taking the. 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:49.360 Ship game twenty twenty, ONE i remember that championship. Game 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:52.760 that was a freaking crazy. Game nobody is. Boring people 1:38:52.800 --> 1:38:56.799 got tired of watching that. GAME i Know alabama And, Georgia, 1:38:56.840 --> 1:39:00.600 Alabama Georgia. Keyshaw we miss anything on this, GAME i 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:05.639 don't think, so. Dude you gave us some great fabis aspic, insight. 1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:07.840 Perspective fucking had a. 1:39:07.880 --> 1:39:10.479 Blast everyone go check them out on speak ON fs 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:14.040 one weekdays at five. Pm follow them on all the 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:18.320 social Platforms instagram and acts at key sean uh and 1:39:18.400 --> 1:39:21.640 thank you bro for coming. On, yeah it's, good, Right 1:39:21.880 --> 1:39:25.600 All Facts No breaks podcast check it out Fire are 1:39:25.600 --> 1:39:26.479 you gonna let me know What i'm? 1:39:26.479 --> 1:39:26.519 On? 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:29.880 No, yeah speaking of, That All Facts No, Breaks we're 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:33.880 actually doing a this. Summer we're going to release The 1:39:34.000 --> 1:39:36.920 legends Of. La so What i've done Is i've gone 1:39:36.960 --> 1:39:40.400 around the city Of, la whether it was, athletes, entertainment 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:45.040 whatever the case, is anywhere from N wa uh you, 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:48.679 know To Paul, Pierce Baron, davis To Shawn jackson's people 1:39:48.720 --> 1:39:50.960 that's from Southern california that really took it to the next. 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:54.680 Level i'm interviewing them in different sequences and we put 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:56.560 it all together so we rolling out as like a 1:39:57.400 --> 1:39:58.960 seven part, series documentary. 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:02.360 Style pretty it's a great. Idea what's what's it. 1:40:02.520 --> 1:40:04.800 Called it's gonna be all faction, breaks but it's all, 1:40:04.840 --> 1:40:08.880 facts no, breaks L a. Legends, okay, yeah, WOW i 1:40:08.960 --> 1:40:11.280 can't wait to see. That LIKE i interviewed like Ice, 1:40:11.360 --> 1:40:13.519 Cube hell, yeah we're looking to get him on the 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:17.600 show real, soon just coming, soon Ice Cube. Cube we 1:40:17.720 --> 1:40:21.519 Got Barry davis on To. YEAD i went down over the. 1:40:22.479 --> 1:40:23.280 Compound you've been over. 1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:27.120 There we had The he's. 1:40:27.439 --> 1:40:28.880 EASY i grew up with ALL i grew up with 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:32.400 all them, dudes like everybody from L. A, BASICALLY i 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:35.040 grew up. With that's fucking great class to be out, MAN. 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:38.320 La they show, out they show, out thank you for coming. 1:40:38.360 --> 1:40:42.240 On oh, yeah no problem. Man Key shank's pro that 1:40:42.479 --> 1:40:45.200 might have been. Sneaky one of my favorite episodes we've ever. Done, 1:40:45.760 --> 1:40:48.800 yeah just like knew the, assignment knew the. Thing picked 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:51.800 a great fucking, game great, stories great. Era let it. 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:55.599 Rip Key shan sees everything, too because after the, show 1:40:55.920 --> 1:40:57.599 came up to me and, says your dad's still mad at. 1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:00.439 ME i think my dad called into it a talk 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:03.920 radio once About keishaw's opinion on something don't know for a, 1:41:04.080 --> 1:41:06.960 fact but really. Bad keyshaw's, like you're dead all. RIGHT 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:10.240 i tried looking that. UP i couldn't find. 1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:11.439 ANYTHING i couldn't, either yea. 1:41:11.840 --> 1:41:17.479 Regardless like completely different. Person when you meet, him you 1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:19.000 understand him way more. 1:41:19.439 --> 1:41:21.160 Seriously he's one of those guys where you look at 1:41:21.240 --> 1:41:23.200 media and he's like in that like that's he's that's 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:26.400 his w, character even when he's playing like The diva Wide. 1:41:26.439 --> 1:41:29.480 Receiver but then you just learn like how Much parcels 1:41:29.520 --> 1:41:31.200 respected him and they had the thing you know that 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:31.719 he's a fucking. 1:41:31.760 --> 1:41:36.200 Grinder he's a, grinder a blocking he emphasized, that you, 1:41:36.280 --> 1:41:38.479 know the hustle play in the. Game it was A 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:40.479 it was a fun and that was a fun interview 1:41:40.560 --> 1:41:42.680 to get to know key shonk because, yeah we all we, 1:41:42.760 --> 1:41:45.360 all we all know What kishon is ON. 1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:49.000 Tv but he ain't really liked, THAT i, guess but he, 1:41:49.200 --> 1:41:51.160 is but he's, not but you understand. 1:41:51.200 --> 1:41:54.360 Why, yeah, Completely and it was really cool from me 1:41:54.479 --> 1:41:57.559 And jack's perspective to see like you guys like long lost, 1:41:57.600 --> 1:42:00.360 cousins like having played in the same, offense same. 1:42:00.439 --> 1:42:03.799 Offense, yeah going in talking about The Charlie weiss system 1:42:04.439 --> 1:42:08.560 and how it evolved when you know McDaniel's got it To. 1:42:08.640 --> 1:42:11.360 Billy oh then you know when he, left like we 1:42:11.520 --> 1:42:14.120 were speaking the same. Languages it's, fun BUT i could 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:17.800 we we we changed a lot of the. Language the 1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:21.000 OLDER i got. It you, know it's like the old 1:42:21.120 --> 1:42:23.280 like he was talking opec and, shit that was like 1:42:23.360 --> 1:42:25.760 WHEN i first got there in like Nine then we 1:42:25.880 --> 1:42:29.320 never used opec after like five years. Again, Yeah, well 1:42:29.360 --> 1:42:32.879 it's time for The Chill, zone brought to you by Cors. 1:42:32.960 --> 1:42:36.960 Light get Cors light delivered straight to your, Door Visit 1:42:37.040 --> 1:42:42.280 corslight dot, com slash gwn Celebrate. 1:42:42.840 --> 1:42:48.639 RESPONSIBLY i tried. 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:53.960 To harmonize with you on. That so for this Week's Chill, 1:42:54.040 --> 1:42:55.280 zone trying out a new. 1:42:55.320 --> 1:43:00.000 SEGMENT a couple episodes, ago you talked in depth recently 1:43:00.280 --> 1:43:04.760 about what it's like to just in the, weeds nitty, 1:43:04.800 --> 1:43:07.439 gritty beat by beat details of what it's like traveling 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:09.960 for AN nfl away. Game so a lot of people 1:43:10.000 --> 1:43:11.280 have been in the. Comments they really like. THAT a 1:43:11.320 --> 1:43:15.000 lot of positive freeedback about. That so we're trying to 1:43:15.040 --> 1:43:16.680 do a segment WHERE i just want you to go 1:43:16.960 --> 1:43:20.320 super deep into a SPECIFIC nfl inside our. Conversation so 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:22.800 a lot of the comments have been suggesting you talked 1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:26.840 about Brock perty just signed that big. Deal just people 1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:29.000 want to know a little bit more information in depth 1:43:29.040 --> 1:43:31.000 about what contracts are like in THE nfl and what 1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:35.479 contract negotiations going so high, level give us what contract 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:36.559 negotiations are like in. 1:43:36.560 --> 1:43:42.679 THE, nfl well. Contracts, well contract negotiations in THE, nfl 1:43:42.800 --> 1:43:46.880 and contract NEGOTIATIONS i had with The New England patriots 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:52.960 are completely different AS i look at, It and they've also, 1:43:53.160 --> 1:43:57.200 changed which rightfully they. Should you, know it's been way 1:43:57.240 --> 1:44:01.760 more player. Friendly i've never LIKE i can remember WHEN 1:44:02.600 --> 1:44:05.560 i got hurt in twenty, twelve The patriots offered me 1:44:05.640 --> 1:44:08.760 a contract before the season to sign. THAT i thought, 1:44:08.880 --> 1:44:11.639 like that's not IF i AND i won the starting 1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:15.800 job going into that. Year they so they were trying 1:44:15.800 --> 1:44:19.000 to lock me in for like some league minimum deal 1:44:19.080 --> 1:44:21.680 with like a week signing, bonus WHICH i was, Like 1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:24.360 i'm GOING i would rather go to free. Agency so 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:27.960 we played out the year AND i broke my foot 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:30.880 and THEN i BROKE i broke my hand and missed 1:44:30.920 --> 1:44:32.800 a couple of. GAMES i bawled. OUT i had a 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:36.080 THREE i had three games WHERE i was, bawling and 1:44:36.120 --> 1:44:39.519 THEN i broke my foot and so it got to 1:44:39.640 --> 1:44:41.760 a sudden. Holt SO i WENT i remember going back 1:44:41.840 --> 1:44:45.320 after that AND i was sitting there, THINKING i was, like, man, 1:44:45.960 --> 1:44:47.960 oh at Least i'm going to get that shitty little 1:44:48.000 --> 1:44:49.800 contract they offered, me you. 1:44:49.800 --> 1:44:51.519 Know which it'll still be a pay, raise you. 1:44:51.600 --> 1:44:54.320 Know you, KNOW i remember going back to the negotiations 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:56.000 and they, said that's how we felt, then this is 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:58.000 how we feel. Now and it was a completely different 1:44:58.080 --> 1:45:00.519 number with a lot less money BECAUSE i was, hurt 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:05.200 WHICH i understood that now now nowadays guys tear their 1:45:05.240 --> 1:45:07.720 a cls and they're getting paid the biggest contract in 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:10.400 the history of the, game which that was never like, 1:45:10.520 --> 1:45:14.640 that at least WHERE i was. At you, know they 1:45:14.720 --> 1:45:17.560 they always they would always say WE'RE i remember just, 1:45:17.680 --> 1:45:20.679 vividly you, know when you're negotiating with, them they're, saying 1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:23.280 we're not paying you for what you've, Done we're paying 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:26.200 you for what we project you to, do you. Know 1:45:26.439 --> 1:45:31.680 and that's where the differences are in different. ORGANIZATIONS i 1:45:31.760 --> 1:45:33.760 wish it was. DIFFERENT i WISH i got it other 1:45:33.840 --> 1:45:36.639 way like other, guys but with the Brock purty. 1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:42.600 Contract when renegotiations, starts like if you start performing outside 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:44.640 of your, content like what they're paying you, for the 1:45:45.240 --> 1:45:47.040 paying you to, project and you start performing outside of. 1:45:47.120 --> 1:45:50.480 That what does that look like from negotiation? Standpoint renegotiation, Standpoint. 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:54.000 Well it, usually, uh you, know every TIME i signed a, 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:56.960 CONTRACT i like balled out the First LIKE i feel 1:45:56.960 --> 1:46:00.120 LIKE i outplayed that contract that, year But i'd have 1:46:00.280 --> 1:46:02.200 like three, years like we never went back to the 1:46:02.280 --> 1:46:05.519 table until the last year of your. Deal now it's 1:46:05.640 --> 1:46:08.720 changed a little bit because of you, know guys want 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:11.599 to lock guys in before the market gets too, high, 1:46:11.840 --> 1:46:14.720 this that the, other and and they and guys try 1:46:14.760 --> 1:46:18.960 to you, know teams and guys want, security and so 1:46:19.120 --> 1:46:21.920 sometimes you see guys getting renegotiated with two three, years 1:46:21.960 --> 1:46:24.960 a rip up a contract like that wasn't really we. 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:26.760 WEREN'T i wasn't a guy that ever dealt with. 1:46:26.840 --> 1:46:33.479 That With Brock purdy being a seventh round draft, pick you, 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.960 know that's something also THAT i think is a key 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:40.840 figure in this. DEAL i always felt IF i was 1:46:40.920 --> 1:46:43.280 a third or a second round draft pick AND i 1:46:43.479 --> 1:46:47.240 had the same production after my first or my second, 1:46:47.320 --> 1:46:48.599 contract THAT i would have got more. 1:46:48.680 --> 1:46:48.920 Money. 1:46:49.880 --> 1:46:53.840 UH i, think you, know brought kind of surpassed. That, 1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:56.320 yeah he took a little. Less what is it fifty? 1:46:56.400 --> 1:46:58.040 Three what is? 1:46:58.080 --> 1:46:59.320 It what's is guaranteed. 1:47:00.160 --> 1:47:02.400 Guaranteed that's SOMETHING i wanted to ask you about, too 1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:05.559 is let's see the difference between guaranteed and. Total let's see. 1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:09.400 Value so we'll see is guaranteed money one hundred and 1:47:09.439 --> 1:47:12.519 eighty it's six, years five years including your two sixty 1:47:12.600 --> 1:47:15.120 five contract. Extension how many years the deal? 1:47:15.280 --> 1:47:17.439 Still this? One so he has one year so this 1:47:17.520 --> 1:47:21.000 will go through twenty twenty or twenty, thirty and he's 1:47:21.040 --> 1:47:23.120 got one hundred and eighty one million in guaranteed with 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:26.040 a full note trade clause has been, Reported so. 1:47:26.120 --> 1:47:29.320 One hundred and eighty one million over this six. Years 1:47:30.439 --> 1:47:33.800 so what's one hundred and eighty divided into? Four it's 1:47:33.920 --> 1:47:36.760 forty five point twenty. Five so that's what that. Is 1:47:37.600 --> 1:47:41.080 he's really of real. Money that's How that's HOW i 1:47:41.200 --> 1:47:43.479 used to look at. It it's one hundred and eighty 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:48.680 one divided by either you know. Whatever that number is 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:52.439 a couple of years shorter than the contract because that's 1:47:52.520 --> 1:47:55.240 kind of like they're, out which that's pretty cheap if 1:47:55.280 --> 1:47:58.200 you think about. It you, know NOW i have opportunity 1:47:58.280 --> 1:48:00.880 to earn more. Money so what is that that's? Like 1:48:01.479 --> 1:48:05.679 that could be that could be built in, escalators meaning 1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:06.400 like he has to. 1:48:08.080 --> 1:48:10.520 LIKE i had a built in escalator in my contract 1:48:10.600 --> 1:48:13.240 WHERE i would make like a million bucks more or 1:48:13.320 --> 1:48:17.160 five hundred grand more IF i had My at that, 1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:20.040 time my high was one hundred and five. Catches so 1:48:20.120 --> 1:48:24.360 IF i got to like ninety catches a thousand yards 1:48:25.760 --> 1:48:29.719 and either six, touchdowns LIKE i had to get three 1:48:29.800 --> 1:48:32.759 of that and then or we went to the Super 1:48:32.800 --> 1:48:36.280 bowl SO i could have three of, THOSE i would 1:48:36.280 --> 1:48:41.320 get that. Money there's, incentives so like. That that's also 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:43.680 like incentives and escalators are kind of in the same. 1:48:43.720 --> 1:48:46.120 BOAT i don't know the actual. Differences i'm not a cap, 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:49.400 guy but same thing like if you, have like For Brock, 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:51.760 purdy if you if you play a certain amount of 1:48:53.920 --> 1:48:56.519 if you play a certain amount of percentage of the, 1:48:56.640 --> 1:49:01.240 year you'll get an extra two five million. Dollars but 1:49:01.360 --> 1:49:04.280 a lot of this what people don't realize these roster 1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:08.120 bonuses that are In they used to give us roster, 1:49:08.560 --> 1:49:11.479 bonus so what is? That so the roster bonus is 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:15.840 actually in the guaranteed. Money so they'll, say here's your roster. 1:49:16.040 --> 1:49:20.200 Bonus of for, ME i think it was like a 1:49:20.320 --> 1:49:22.360 million five or. SOMETHING i don't. 1:49:22.400 --> 1:49:22.560 Know my. 1:49:22.720 --> 1:49:24.960 Numbers you guys will probably be able to look that. 1:49:25.120 --> 1:49:27.080 Up BUT i had a roster bonus that goes into 1:49:27.080 --> 1:49:29.960 your guaranteed, money but it ain't. Guaranteed you have to 1:49:30.000 --> 1:49:33.639 be on the active day roster to get that. Money 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:37.880 so whatever that, Was so say it's a million, bucks 1:49:37.960 --> 1:49:39.880 divide that by. Seventeen how many is? 1:49:39.920 --> 1:49:42.320 That let's just say it's one point, seven one point 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:44.840 seven or one hundred. K you get one HUNDRED k a. 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:47.360 Game but SAY i got hurt AND i didn't play 1:49:47.400 --> 1:49:49.920 in three, GAMES i WOULDN'T i wouldn't collect those those. 1:49:49.840 --> 1:49:50.840 Three checks that comes out of. 1:49:50.880 --> 1:49:52.960 Guaranteed now that comes out of your guaranteed. Money so 1:49:53.000 --> 1:49:54.960 you got to look into like what his guaranteed money. 1:49:55.080 --> 1:49:57.519 Is there's a lot of ways of you, know also 1:49:57.560 --> 1:49:59.439 the guaranteed money could be like you have to be 1:50:00.240 --> 1:50:04.160 uh workout bonuses and what's the workout workout? Bonuses you 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:06.200 have to be a eighty percent of the off season 1:50:06.320 --> 1:50:08.600 program in order to collect that. Money it kind of 1:50:08.640 --> 1:50:12.800 incentivizes his guys to stay around the. Team so that's 1:50:12.840 --> 1:50:15.760 the non mandatory workout non mandatory you have to hit eighty. 1:50:15.760 --> 1:50:18.720 Percent, okay, Cool? Okay, Interesting so it is kind of 1:50:18.920 --> 1:50:20.720 mandatory if you want to hit a certain amount of 1:50:20.720 --> 1:50:21.759 threshold for your, money. 1:50:21.720 --> 1:50:22.360 If you want to make your. 1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:25.439 Money, okay there's also like and then also like for 1:50:25.640 --> 1:50:29.880 for linemen or, big big, defensivelignement like that their weight 1:50:30.000 --> 1:50:35.920 could be you, know negotiated in as a incentive if 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:40.120 this or you, know if he breaks over. This, uh you, 1:50:40.200 --> 1:50:42.639 know they could technically take that money. Away so there's 1:50:42.680 --> 1:50:45.960 a bunch of stuff in that guaranteed, money which isn't always. 1:50:46.000 --> 1:50:51.000 Guaranteed so Brock, Perdy i'm sure it went down where 1:50:51.040 --> 1:50:54.040 he outplayed his contract as a seventh, rounder you, know 1:50:54.120 --> 1:50:56.120 the first few. Years so it was a tough situation 1:50:56.280 --> 1:50:57.880 to be in because he still had a bunch of 1:50:57.960 --> 1:50:59.960 years on his deal and you still wanted to see 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:02.240 if it would be, able you, know to continue doing. 1:51:02.320 --> 1:51:03.000 It, yeah. 1:51:04.479 --> 1:51:08.280 But, uh you, know he he got. PAID i, mean 1:51:08.439 --> 1:51:12.639 he didn't get the. Sixty he got a five. There 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:14.920 that's what everyone. Thinks but, really if you think about, 1:51:14.920 --> 1:51:16.120 it it's like four year forty. 1:51:16.200 --> 1:51:19.840 Five why only four versus five because you could divide, 1:51:19.880 --> 1:51:22.720 it it's more of like what is? That what is 1:51:22.720 --> 1:51:25.000 one hundred and eighty one divided by? Five it's thirty 1:51:25.040 --> 1:51:27.280 six point. TWO i don't know. Why i'd always just 1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:29.120 take off those two. Years and that's usually kind of 1:51:29.160 --> 1:51:30.080 HOW i thought about. 1:51:29.840 --> 1:51:31.599 It because the last year is some kind of. Bullshit 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:35.320 dear either going to get, restructure structure going into the, 1:51:35.560 --> 1:51:37.040 cut depending on your. 1:51:37.400 --> 1:51:39.960 Situation, yeah Depending AND i don't know all his his 1:51:40.120 --> 1:51:43.240 incentives for that extra or what is it two sixty 1:51:44.400 --> 1:51:47.360 the total? Contract, yeah two sixty, Five so two sixty, 1:51:47.479 --> 1:51:51.160 Five so what's what's what's the difference between eighty four 1:51:51.240 --> 1:51:52.280 million eighty four? 1:51:52.320 --> 1:51:53.840 Million, yeah so that's all the. 1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:56.760 Incentives roster bonus is what have you that could be 1:51:56.760 --> 1:51:59.439 an incentives that could be roster. BONUS i haven't looked 1:51:59.439 --> 1:52:01.599 at the detail of the. CONTRACT i don't think they're 1:52:01.640 --> 1:52:02.240 fully out yet. 1:52:02.280 --> 1:52:04.920 Either that could be anything from, like, hey they could, 1:52:04.960 --> 1:52:09.000 negotiate then they if he GETS, mvp he could get 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:10.240 a five million dollars. 1:52:09.960 --> 1:52:15.240 On Pro, BOWLS mvpl. Pros get, Atistical, yeah anything, statistical 1:52:15.600 --> 1:52:17.759 and those stats can go. Crazy it could be playing, 1:52:17.840 --> 1:52:22.040 time it could be completion, percentage it could be. TOUCHDOWNS i, 1:52:22.120 --> 1:52:24.280 mean whatever you want to negotiate or they want to. 1:52:24.360 --> 1:52:26.400 Negotiate it's just a way for you to try to 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:27.120 collect more of that. 1:52:27.200 --> 1:52:30.400 Money have you ever heard any like weird incentives something 1:52:30.479 --> 1:52:32.280 like stuck out, like, oh that was unusual or very 1:52:32.320 --> 1:52:33.320 specific to a certain. 1:52:33.360 --> 1:52:36.280 Player you, know the weight ones are always kind of 1:52:36.320 --> 1:52:38.920 weird to. Me but it's you, know these big boys 1:52:39.240 --> 1:52:39.519 during the. 1:52:39.600 --> 1:52:42.560 Season, now would there be players that maybe are AND 1:52:42.880 --> 1:52:44.760 i know that you're not like A gm and you're 1:52:44.760 --> 1:52:46.120 not in the, cap but just from what you've seen 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:49.960 and heard or, experienced players that maybe would have been 1:52:50.040 --> 1:52:52.840 injury prone or perceived to be injury prone having higher 1:52:52.960 --> 1:52:54.480 like roster, Bonuses. 1:52:54.479 --> 1:52:56.519 Well that's what The patriots used to do a. Lot. 1:52:56.640 --> 1:52:58.519 Yeah and then also what they can do is they 1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:00.479 could put a split in your. Contract what is? 1:53:00.560 --> 1:53:02.040 That, uh it's. 1:53:02.160 --> 1:53:06.280 Usual it was always in all The patriots rookie deals 1:53:06.800 --> 1:53:08.840 where it was like non negotiable split is if you 1:53:09.320 --> 1:53:10.920 if you get, hurt you only make half your. 1:53:10.960 --> 1:53:16.240 Salary oh, wow, okay so separate from even roster, bonus 1:53:16.240 --> 1:53:18.320 separt from. Everything if you're like if you take YOUR 1:53:18.360 --> 1:53:21.160 acl in the first snap of, Preseason, no. 1:53:21.280 --> 1:53:23.599 Not your guarantee, money but like all your other money, Out, 1:53:23.720 --> 1:53:25.800 yeah you only get half is split. 1:53:25.840 --> 1:53:28.599 It that's and that's just non negotiable inside of every Single, 1:53:28.680 --> 1:53:31.840 well it's negotiable in the, contract but it was not 1:53:32.000 --> 1:53:32.680 negotiable for. 1:53:32.800 --> 1:53:32.920 Us. 1:53:33.160 --> 1:53:35.680 Gotcha and something THAT i think has a lot of 1:53:36.360 --> 1:53:37.320 people ask a lot of questions. 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:38.559 About but how does signing bonus? 1:53:38.640 --> 1:53:42.360 Work so signing bonus whatever it could be divided so 1:53:42.479 --> 1:53:45.720 that say brought got of what it was, designing but 1:53:45.800 --> 1:53:48.479 maybe fifty million, dollars say. 1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:51.560 One hundred and seventy six million injur, guarantee. 1:53:51.160 --> 1:53:53.800 One hundred and seventy over his first four he. 1:53:53.880 --> 1:53:56.080 Proceid sixty two percent of this money in the first three. 1:53:56.200 --> 1:53:57.800 Years so look at you see HOW i said four. 1:53:57.880 --> 1:54:00.880 Years, yeah so one hundred and seventy over first four 1:54:01.240 --> 1:54:04.320 that means there's only an additional what nine ten million 1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:07.680 dollars for that next so you could you would cut 1:54:07.800 --> 1:54:08.080 you know WHAT i? 1:54:08.160 --> 1:54:10.080 Mean, yeah and part of that's playing games for THE cap. 1:54:10.000 --> 1:54:14.200 Two Probably i'm not A cap. Guy, yeah but, yeah 1:54:14.600 --> 1:54:18.080 usually they they divide the signing bonus By that's why 1:54:18.120 --> 1:54:20.760 they'll make big signing bonuses because they'll they can pro 1:54:20.880 --> 1:54:22.960 rate that and divide that over the length of year 1:54:23.000 --> 1:54:28.400 contract towards the. Cap, okay signing bonuses go against cap. Two, 1:54:28.720 --> 1:54:32.160 yeah it's it's. Less it's like. Less that's how they 1:54:32.200 --> 1:54:35.240 can make the money. Down that's why they'll they'll renegotiate 1:54:35.280 --> 1:54:36.840 and give guys a bunch of money in the signing 1:54:36.880 --> 1:54:39.000 bonus because then you can pro rate it throughout the 1:54:39.080 --> 1:54:41.280 duration of the. Contract, okay and then well let's go 1:54:41.360 --> 1:54:43.760 back to the way we were talking about signing. Bonus, 1:54:43.840 --> 1:54:49.560 yeah signing, bonus it's not like depending on. Team, okay 1:54:49.840 --> 1:54:52.920 say It's Rock parties fifty million dollars a sign they 1:54:52.960 --> 1:54:56.280 could divide that over three for the, owner you, know 1:54:56.440 --> 1:54:59.760 says so on signing day they'll give them twenty, million 1:55:00.480 --> 1:55:03.160 and then In october they can give them ten, million 1:55:03.520 --> 1:55:06.960 and then the next following year they can give them 1:55:06.960 --> 1:55:09.560 another Ten now you do that for tax, REASONINGS i don't. 1:55:09.600 --> 1:55:13.400 Know, yeah but they the owner can do that because 1:55:13.400 --> 1:55:14.720 sometimes they just don't want to give you all that 1:55:14.760 --> 1:55:15.120 money right. 1:55:15.120 --> 1:55:16.400 Away it's a lot of. Money it's a lot of 1:55:16.440 --> 1:55:19.600 money with and then so, functionally you sign a, contract 1:55:19.640 --> 1:55:22.800 you get your pro rated signing. Bonus maybe it's half 1:55:22.920 --> 1:55:25.320 or a third or. Whatever is that just a check 1:55:25.600 --> 1:55:27.400 or is that like going into your like Paces and 1:55:27.480 --> 1:55:28.200 how does that actually, do. 1:55:28.280 --> 1:55:30.360 So a lot of guys have direct. Deposit we didn't 1:55:30.600 --> 1:55:33.680 actually have that choice until like the third or fourth 1:55:33.760 --> 1:55:36.760 year of my, year really my second. Year we just 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:38.160 gonna check you out the. Cash you get a check 1:55:38.200 --> 1:55:40.560 that you'd have to, cash and if which is you, 1:55:40.640 --> 1:55:43.320 know if guys in cash a, check that means owners 1:55:43.360 --> 1:55:45.640 kept that money in that pot and they can earn 1:55:45.760 --> 1:55:46.280 interest on that. 1:55:46.400 --> 1:55:50.040 Bitch, Yeah so that's why you go to direct. Deposits 1:55:50.040 --> 1:55:50.720 you get that money right. 1:55:50.720 --> 1:55:53.120 Away so you're like rolling up your rookie, year rolling 1:55:53.200 --> 1:55:55.280 up with a. Check crazy thing is out of that 1:55:55.400 --> 1:55:57.600 twenty million that he's gonna, get you're gonna get that 1:55:57.760 --> 1:55:59.720 check and it's only going to be about twelve eleven 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:02.440 taxes and. Taxes and then you got to pay the 1:56:02.520 --> 1:56:05.880 agent whatever his agent fee. Is usually three can be negotiated, 1:56:05.960 --> 1:56:10.920 down but it's usually three, percent so you, know it's 1:56:10.960 --> 1:56:11.640 a it's a. 1:56:11.720 --> 1:56:14.600 Lot so that's how you get the signing. Bonus all 1:56:14.640 --> 1:56:16.920 this other, stuff roster bone is that's all. 1:56:16.880 --> 1:56:19.200 Divides so then there could be other. Stuff you have 1:56:19.240 --> 1:56:19.560 a roster. 1:56:19.680 --> 1:56:21.400 Bonus that's another way of them to giving you a, 1:56:21.440 --> 1:56:25.360 million you, know during the, season or guaranteed two million five, 1:56:25.440 --> 1:56:27.600 million ten whatever that is they can give you through the. 1:56:27.640 --> 1:56:29.440 Season then they can give you the workout, bonus which 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:32.040 is also guaranteed money in the guaranteed money, thing but 1:56:32.160 --> 1:56:34.520 that also you, know incentivizes you to be around the, 1:56:34.600 --> 1:56:36.320 facility going to be at the off. 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:38.520 Season, uh you know all that. 1:56:38.600 --> 1:56:41.360 Stuff so then what's in the game check game check 1:56:41.480 --> 1:56:44.920 is the additional salary that you have to be divided 1:56:44.920 --> 1:56:47.720 into set eighteen weeks and you get paid every first 1:56:47.800 --> 1:56:51.440 fifteenth and you don't get any additional money for, playoffs, 1:56:51.520 --> 1:56:52.160 right you do. 1:56:52.240 --> 1:56:56.879 Get additional, money but it's it's it's technically of technically 1:56:56.920 --> 1:56:57.800 we're getting blown. 1:56:57.880 --> 1:57:01.040 Out, yeah as, players because we're playing for. 1:57:01.160 --> 1:57:04.800 Less everyone gets, say now you get an Additional so 1:57:04.960 --> 1:57:07.000 like WHEN i was playing you for the first, round 1:57:08.360 --> 1:57:11.200 you would get an additional like twenty, grand twenty five 1:57:11.320 --> 1:57:15.160 grand to the, winner twenty grand to the, loser and 1:57:15.280 --> 1:57:18.480 the next round you can get like an additional thirty. 1:57:18.520 --> 1:57:21.320 Grand but then like we would get the first round 1:57:21.360 --> 1:57:23.000 BY i have to do all the same amount of 1:57:23.040 --> 1:57:24.280 work and not get paid. 1:57:24.400 --> 1:57:26.120 Because the buye you don't get. Paid you don't get. 1:57:25.960 --> 1:57:27.600 Paid during the buy you only get paid during the 1:57:27.640 --> 1:57:29.920 game and it was really twenty. Grand and at that 1:57:30.000 --> 1:57:32.120 TIME i was making like a hundred grand a game 1:57:32.760 --> 1:57:35.560 through my. Contract so you're putting the same amount of 1:57:35.640 --> 1:57:39.560 work for way less. Money and the league is benefiting 1:57:39.680 --> 1:57:42.720 crazy through the playoffs with the ratings and. Everything so 1:57:42.800 --> 1:57:45.160 how much like totally at the total you make if 1:57:45.200 --> 1:57:47.839 you won The Super bowl be like one hundred and eighty, Grand. 1:57:47.800 --> 1:57:50.080 And that's if you don't have any of the, escalators 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:52.120 any of The. Batman but that's just all new money 1:57:52.320 --> 1:57:52.800 coming from the. 1:57:52.920 --> 1:57:55.000 League the fifty third man on the roster makes that 1:57:55.160 --> 1:57:57.840 money if you go to the Super, bowl the fifty 1:57:57.880 --> 1:58:00.520 third and MAYBE i think even the practice, squad everyone 1:58:00.960 --> 1:58:03.680 and the everyone in the organization DOES i think so 1:58:03.800 --> 1:58:05.800 making a suit it's a big thing for it's. 1:58:05.680 --> 1:58:10.360 A big thing for like the trainers and the. Coaches it's. 1:58:10.440 --> 1:58:14.120 Huge it's. Great but like on on on the scale 1:58:14.160 --> 1:58:14.760 of like the. 1:58:14.840 --> 1:58:16.560 Top dogs are taking huge pay cuts to. 1:58:16.600 --> 1:58:18.960 Play Tom brady usually gets two million dollars a fucking. 1:58:19.040 --> 1:58:21.840 Game yeah he's, working you, know wherever it, is you 1:58:21.880 --> 1:58:22.160 know WHAT i. 1:58:22.160 --> 1:58:25.080 Mean he's getting. Paid he get fifty million dollars a. 1:58:25.200 --> 1:58:29.400 Year now he's gonna go play for twenty grand, thirty 1:58:29.520 --> 1:58:30.720 it's probably like fifty grand. 1:58:30.760 --> 1:58:33.040 Now, Yeah but they're getting paid the same as the 1:58:33.120 --> 1:58:34.120 long snappers the, course the. 1:58:34.120 --> 1:58:36.360 Same as a long, snapper which it's additional. Money you 1:58:36.480 --> 1:58:40.000 never want to be you want to be. Thankful but 1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:43.120 you know the work you put. In if we're talking workplace, 1:58:43.200 --> 1:58:46.280 HERE i mean the stress levels are even, higher, right 1:58:46.960 --> 1:58:49.440 the work. Is you're putting in way more work during 1:58:49.520 --> 1:58:52.360 the playoffs because you're just that more much that much 1:58:52.480 --> 1:58:58.959 more uh invested like, time everything, tightened motion. 1:58:59.080 --> 1:59:01.160 And the cost for commerce go way up to a 1:59:01.240 --> 1:59:03.080 lot more money being, generated a. 1:59:03.120 --> 1:59:03.680 Lot of money. 1:59:03.760 --> 1:59:07.520 Generated but you, know congratulations to Brock. Man that's cool 1:59:07.640 --> 1:59:12.040 seeing a seventh round guy get a big, payday regardless 1:59:12.040 --> 1:59:14.920 of what you think he deserves or. Doesn't as a former, 1:59:15.000 --> 1:59:18.080 player you always like seeing guys get, paid especially a 1:59:18.120 --> 1:59:21.400 guy that went his, route which you, KNOW i was 1:59:21.440 --> 1:59:24.720 a seventh round. Guy he's a seventh round. Guy now 1:59:24.800 --> 1:59:27.440 he's making fifty four million dollars. 1:59:27.520 --> 1:59:29.560 Year not, bad. 1:59:31.040 --> 1:59:33.840 Not even a one, star not a zero star first pick. 1:59:33.920 --> 1:59:34.800 Overall you, Know. 1:59:34.840 --> 1:59:37.280 I'm a story, guy like the story now is a 1:59:37.320 --> 1:59:42.080 team gonna be? Good don't, know don't. Know but if 1:59:42.120 --> 1:59:44.560 you think about. It for The, niners they'll have to 1:59:44.600 --> 1:59:46.280 eat a bunch of this for these next couple of, 1:59:46.360 --> 1:59:49.880 years which they're they're kind of rebuilding right. Now and 1:59:50.000 --> 1:59:52.880 if you look At brock's contract in two, years it's 1:59:52.880 --> 1:59:55.320 gonna be. Cheap it's kind of like The Daniel jones, 1:59:55.320 --> 1:59:58.959 Shit like everyone's, Like daniel's making a thirty million, Dollars, 2:00:00.000 --> 2:00:00.280 well what the? 2:00:00.600 --> 2:00:01.160 Well all? 2:00:01.240 --> 2:00:03.880 Right in two, years the next guy was making FIFTY. 2:00:04.040 --> 2:00:06.120 Yea the lessons. Learned if there's ever guy who needs 2:00:06.160 --> 2:00:08.280 to get paid real, money pay him as soon as you, 2:00:08.360 --> 2:00:10.000 can because it now instantly becomes. 2:00:10.120 --> 2:00:13.920 Value you, know he did take he didn't take the top, 2:00:14.040 --> 2:00:16.760 dog you know WHAT i? Mean, Yeah and you think 2:00:16.800 --> 2:00:21.120 About brock, party if you put yourself in his, position 2:00:22.640 --> 2:00:26.320 you're sitting there, saying, like, Well Dak, prescott he's got 2:00:26.560 --> 2:00:31.120 one one playoff, win maybe. TWO i Think i'm taking 2:00:31.160 --> 2:00:33.600 a team to AN afc. Championship we've gone to a Super. 2:00:33.640 --> 2:00:37.720 Bowl we have playoff, wins you, Know and that's what 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:40.240 you really judge on the. Quarterback how mean wins he? 2:00:40.320 --> 2:00:44.160 Got so you could see what he his side was 2:00:44.280 --> 2:00:49.560 arguing to get that, money and uh, two you got. 2:00:49.600 --> 2:00:51.840 Too you, know you could say the same thing for 2:00:51.920 --> 2:00:54.560 all the other big dog. Quarterbacks you, KNOW i think 2:00:54.600 --> 2:00:55.640 he's got more playoff wins In. 2:00:55.720 --> 2:00:58.560 Burrow burrow did go to A Super, bowl so Did. 2:00:58.640 --> 2:01:00.280 Brock yeah, right you're. 2:01:00.320 --> 2:01:02.880 Right you Know brock went to The Super, bowl right 2:01:03.040 --> 2:01:05.200 and He brock also went to A nfcam OR Nfc 2:01:05.320 --> 2:01:07.960 championship where he hurt his. Arm, Remember, yeah you, know 2:01:08.120 --> 2:01:12.000 so like, Bros brocks got Some So merritt when you 2:01:12.160 --> 2:01:15.080 when you're talking about winning games, now regardless of what 2:01:15.160 --> 2:01:16.680 you want to, say how the team's going to Be. 2:01:16.960 --> 2:01:19.680 Now do you think If purdy was a first round pick. 2:01:20.000 --> 2:01:23.040 Or you, know completely, different he gets that If party 2:01:23.160 --> 2:01:26.200 was a first round, pick he probably would have got 2:01:26.360 --> 2:01:27.160 sixty eight million. 2:01:27.200 --> 2:01:27.560 Dollars. 2:01:27.840 --> 2:01:30.720 Yeah he's one of those contracts that sets the sets 2:01:30.760 --> 2:01:31.440 the new standard for. 2:01:31.520 --> 2:01:35.480 Quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah one last thing on, this BECAUSE i 2:01:35.520 --> 2:01:39.760 thought this was Great one time years. AGO i was 2:01:39.800 --> 2:01:42.440 at your house back In foxborough and you were like 2:01:42.520 --> 2:01:45.920 going through some like junk man and you just opened 2:01:46.000 --> 2:01:48.440 up like a check for like a couple hundred thousand 2:01:48.480 --> 2:01:50.520 dollars or. SOMETHING i think it was From. Jerseys what 2:01:50.640 --> 2:01:53.680 are some of the other ways that you get paid that. 2:01:53.800 --> 2:01:55.680 Aren't Like dorsett, feels. 2:01:55.640 --> 2:01:59.080 There's player of, performance which is huge for guys that 2:01:59.200 --> 2:02:03.240 get like brought like set late round, guys undrafted, guys 2:02:03.320 --> 2:02:06.680 which they've changed it in this NEW cba collecting bargain. 2:02:06.720 --> 2:02:09.720 Agreement but WHEN i was, there if you were a 2:02:09.800 --> 2:02:12.680 seventh round, guy you and you were getting more playing 2:02:12.880 --> 2:02:16.400 like there was like a formula on playing time and 2:02:16.600 --> 2:02:20.320 plays per game that you would make a lot more 2:02:20.400 --> 2:02:22.720 money than if you were a first round. Guy in 2:02:22.840 --> 2:02:24.080 this pool of money. 2:02:24.160 --> 2:02:25.120 There's like coming from THE. 2:02:25.240 --> 2:02:27.600 Nfl, yeah coming from THE. NFL i forgot where it comes. 2:02:27.680 --> 2:02:29.920 From we got to probably hit Up Matthew slater on 2:02:30.000 --> 2:02:35.640 that because he's the former rep for THE, pa but, uh, 2:02:36.080 --> 2:02:37.600 yeah you get. Up there was a pool of money 2:02:38.040 --> 2:02:39.480 that they would have and it would it was a 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:42.480 way to give guys, that you, know seventh round guy 2:02:42.560 --> 2:02:44.920 that was playing eighty percent of the snaps he could. 2:02:44.960 --> 2:02:47.760 TAKE i remember Like Devon bess when he was a, 2:02:47.800 --> 2:02:50.000 receiver he was making like two three million dollars off 2:02:50.080 --> 2:02:54.400 that player performance because he was undrafted and and he 2:02:54.480 --> 2:02:55.520 was bawling Out and it's. 2:02:55.520 --> 2:02:57.720 Upwards of a few million if you play a. 2:02:57.800 --> 2:03:00.600 Lot, yeah and, Yeah LIKE i don't know what it is, 2:03:00.720 --> 2:03:02.720 now but that's those were back WHEN i was. PLAYING 2:03:02.760 --> 2:03:03.640 i think it changed a. 2:03:03.760 --> 2:03:06.960 Little that was like a fund of something where they 2:03:07.000 --> 2:03:08.720 were pulling money in and they would distribute to the. 2:03:08.800 --> 2:03:12.360 Players there's also other ways of earning money. 2:03:15.040 --> 2:03:15.360 Jersey. 2:03:15.480 --> 2:03:18.360 Sales like so when you sign up for THE, pa 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:23.200 you're basically signing and giving away your your your name 2:03:23.280 --> 2:03:26.400 and likeness for the brand of. 2:03:27.080 --> 2:03:31.160 Players so with that you get a. Check everyone gets 2:03:31.160 --> 2:03:33.240 a check for like ten grand for being In madden 2:03:33.520 --> 2:03:37.520 or whatever it was at that, time or five, grand 2:03:38.200 --> 2:03:41.280 and then anything that sold with your name on you 2:03:41.400 --> 2:03:44.920 get a percentage. Of so like that was after you, 2:03:45.040 --> 2:03:49.200 KNOW i had a huge jersey sale. Year they always 2:03:49.240 --> 2:03:51.160 give you like whatever it is the cents on the 2:03:51.240 --> 2:03:53.520 dollar that you get for. That it could be like 2:03:53.560 --> 2:03:56.360 a half a, cent but you, know you collect money, 2:03:56.440 --> 2:03:59.720 mugs whatever they, have pay your name, jerseys this, jersey 2:03:59.760 --> 2:04:02.560 any thing with your name that has, sold you do 2:04:02.720 --> 2:04:05.640 get to cut a baby sliver of. That and that's 2:04:05.640 --> 2:04:07.680 all through THE. Nflpa AND i still get. Checks, Really 2:04:07.720 --> 2:04:11.800 i'll get like eight cent checks because like so there 2:04:11.920 --> 2:04:14.080 was like a hundred something of mine or like something 2:04:14.200 --> 2:04:16.600 Sold i'll get like an eight cent chot from THE. 2:04:16.680 --> 2:04:17.560 Pa that's. 2:04:17.600 --> 2:04:20.520 Awesome it's like the actors getting residual. Checks that's. Awesome. 2:04:20.720 --> 2:04:23.200 Cool is there any any other things we missed from 2:04:23.280 --> 2:04:26.760 just like things the average fan wouldn't know where money 2:04:26.840 --> 2:04:30.080 is coming in from from a contract. PERSPECTIVE i mean. 2:04:30.000 --> 2:04:32.480 There's probably, More but why don't you guys ask us 2:04:32.560 --> 2:04:35.200 more questions detailed questions in the comments section and we 2:04:35.280 --> 2:04:38.240 can we can get into it. More hell, Yeah i'm 2:04:38.280 --> 2:04:41.880 not like just fucking brainy acts, smart BUT i just oh, 2:04:42.000 --> 2:04:43.880 yeah back in that, DAY i remember day is that, 2:04:45.040 --> 2:04:49.160 like you know who we should? Have we should Have 2:04:49.400 --> 2:04:51.720 we should bring In Matthew slater and do like a 2:04:51.880 --> 2:04:56.640 rules and regulation podcast for THE. NFL i love. That 2:04:57.240 --> 2:04:59.760 let's let's do rules Because bill used to sit us 2:04:59.760 --> 2:05:04.000 down like every year in training camp the first night 2:05:04.040 --> 2:05:04.600 of training get. 2:05:04.520 --> 2:05:06.800 But you go over all the. Rules nothing that you 2:05:06.840 --> 2:05:07.880 can light on fire in team. 2:05:07.920 --> 2:05:10.320 Hotels if anything lights on fire in the team hotel 2:05:10.360 --> 2:05:14.480 could be conduct. Detrimental it's basically explaining all the rules 2:05:14.640 --> 2:05:17.680 that could take away your. Money if you're fat and, 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:19.600 overweight you, get you, get you. 2:05:19.720 --> 2:05:22.440 Get you, know you'd be like it's six hundred pounds per, 2:05:22.520 --> 2:05:24.640 day pound per day. 2:05:25.440 --> 2:05:27.760 Whatever it's probably like one thousand bucks. Now used to 2:05:27.800 --> 2:05:29.520 be WHEN i first got, it like four or three 2:05:29.600 --> 2:05:31.600 hundred and. Eighty then it got up to like six, 2:05:31.760 --> 2:05:34.360 hundred you. KNOW i the more money you, make the 2:05:34.440 --> 2:05:37.080 more they can. Take they could take your money through 2:05:37.120 --> 2:05:41.760 fines on you, know you, know uniform. INFRINGEMENT i used 2:05:41.760 --> 2:05:43.680 to get fined all the. Time if my my knee 2:05:43.720 --> 2:05:46.160 pads were higher and my skin was showing and my 2:05:46.280 --> 2:05:48.200 socks didn't go, up you would get fined for, that 2:05:48.360 --> 2:05:50.920 or certain pads you could get if you didn't have 2:05:51.000 --> 2:05:54.240 your thigh. PADS a certain WHEN i first, played you 2:05:54.280 --> 2:05:56.880 didn't have to have thighre knee, pads and they put 2:05:56.960 --> 2:05:58.600 that in where you get fined if you didn't have. 2:05:58.760 --> 2:06:01.040 THAT i didn't wear them for like my first two. 2:06:01.120 --> 2:06:05.040 Years you can get fined for the length of your 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:08.160 Twel you can get fined for you, know other like 2:06:08.960 --> 2:06:11.920 NON nfl issued a tire on the. 2:06:12.040 --> 2:06:15.200 Sideline technically you can get. Fined you. 2:06:15.280 --> 2:06:17.360 Know so if you're like promoting like your own brand 2:06:17.360 --> 2:06:20.480 that's not associated with THE, nfl you could get fined. 2:06:22.360 --> 2:06:26.920 Like certain. Celebrations, fine, well we should save that for 2:06:27.080 --> 2:06:29.680 another one of these. Segments find me a fine one 2:06:29.720 --> 2:06:31.560 of these segments would be. GREAT i think it's a 2:06:31.600 --> 2:06:35.800 great segue, too to be, like, hey, fans audience, comment 2:06:36.080 --> 2:06:40.920 what detailed types of explanation of INSIDE nfl information would you'd? 2:06:41.000 --> 2:06:42.840 Like because this is a fun. SEGMENT i. 2:06:42.840 --> 2:06:44.960 Think so WHEN i WHEN i WHEN i scored that 2:06:45.120 --> 2:06:49.920 touchdown to break the record for The patriots over total punt, 2:06:49.960 --> 2:06:53.440 RETURNS i threw the ball into the, CROWD i hucked 2:06:53.480 --> 2:06:55.120 it up in, there AND i got fined like hell 2:06:55.120 --> 2:06:56.560 of money because you're not allowed to throw the ball 2:06:56.640 --> 2:06:58.920 in the crowd because it could create a. Riot but 2:06:59.000 --> 2:07:01.520 if you hand the, ball it's, okay you can't but 2:07:01.600 --> 2:07:03.320 you can't hand the. Ball but you can't throw the. 2:07:03.400 --> 2:07:05.080 Ball but will they charge you for the cost of 2:07:05.120 --> 2:07:06.800 the duke if you hand them the? Ball? No oh 2:07:06.880 --> 2:07:08.560 yeah you Have, yeah you have to pay for the 2:07:08.640 --> 2:07:11.600 duke anytime you take the. DUKE i think that's that's 2:07:11.640 --> 2:07:14.920 con that's payroll a. Duct so like everything is payroll 2:07:14.960 --> 2:07:16.840 a duckt nothing is. Free by the, way did you 2:07:16.920 --> 2:07:19.440 have to pay for the those? Tickets payroll a? Duct 2:07:19.800 --> 2:07:21.560 if you broke something in the in the, gut if 2:07:21.600 --> 2:07:23.720 you broke the weight, room payroll a, duct if you 2:07:23.760 --> 2:07:25.680 broke some payroll the, duck they take that money as 2:07:25.760 --> 2:07:26.280 much as they give. 2:07:26.320 --> 2:07:28.000 It did you give him the jerseys the way you 2:07:28.040 --> 2:07:28.400 get paid for? 2:07:28.440 --> 2:07:30.520 That did you pay for the anytime you give jersey? 2:07:30.560 --> 2:07:33.360 Swap you're paying like four hundred, dollars three hundred fifty 2:07:33.400 --> 2:07:33.680 dollars for? 2:07:33.760 --> 2:07:35.920 That what about like a sentimental, ball like a touchdown 2:07:36.000 --> 2:07:37.600 that you keep they give me THAT i don't. 2:07:37.640 --> 2:07:40.640 PAY i don't, know but it wouldn't surprise me if 2:07:40.640 --> 2:07:43.480 it's payroll a. Duct, no is that just your organization 2:07:43.640 --> 2:07:45.480 or is THAT i don't. Know, YEAH i don't have 2:07:45.560 --> 2:07:47.200 to ask that when we have some other. People, yeah 2:07:47.320 --> 2:07:49.680 BUT i threw it up in the. CROWD i remember 2:07:50.400 --> 2:07:51.760 you used to have to go to these hearings and 2:07:51.880 --> 2:07:54.240 marsh And Merton hanks was always a fucking fine hearing 2:07:54.320 --> 2:07:55.800 AND i used to try to butter them up every 2:07:55.840 --> 2:07:58.360 single time came and talked to me in high. School 2:07:58.920 --> 2:08:01.200 loved his little neck thing he used to, do, right you, 2:08:01.280 --> 2:08:03.880 know he's a Fucking San francisco forty nine. 2:08:04.000 --> 2:08:06.040 Er i'd always butter him up every. Time he would 2:08:06.040 --> 2:08:08.480 never fucking reduce my. MONEY i think he reduced it. 2:08:08.600 --> 2:08:11.360 Once my, agent we got that one reduced because it 2:08:11.480 --> 2:08:15.360 was like military service day and my agent, dudes he's, 2:08:15.440 --> 2:08:18.280 like you, Know joy was really thrown it to A 2:08:18.360 --> 2:08:20.840 navy guy that he saw and it's like literally like 2:08:20.880 --> 2:08:21.640 two hundred yards. 2:08:21.720 --> 2:08:24.760 Up, well they saw your college, tape so they knew 2:08:24.800 --> 2:08:25.400 it wasn't going. 2:08:25.480 --> 2:08:29.200 There but we did get that, reduced so thank. 2:08:29.240 --> 2:08:32.760 You oh, yeah all, right well that was that was 2:08:32.760 --> 2:08:33.960 a great. Semon we'll do that. More that was. 2:08:34.000 --> 2:08:36.840 Awesome that was, fun and that's the Chill. Zone thanks 2:08:36.840 --> 2:08:39.760 to our favorite, Beer. Coreslight get Cors light delivered straight 2:08:39.840 --> 2:08:44.320 to your. 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